ID,Timestamp,Contents,Attachments
578168020967489536,2019-05-15 10:33:18.041000+00:00,"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kk8013k2vPZ7vbW8gyVyK3H11xs9s6dlc13ja8d9oKw/edit?usp=sharing
I made the role thing for the themed roles",
578159736063787009,2019-05-15 10:00:22.766000+00:00,mhm,
578159380088881203,2019-05-15 09:58:57.895000+00:00,So the theme is a joke 😄,
578159281799561229,2019-05-15 09:58:34.461000+00:00,But it doesn't fit the theme 😦,
578158336881459200,2019-05-15 09:54:49.175000+00:00,Why is Macho marhjo?,
578157606380503091,2019-05-15 09:51:55.010000+00:00,I could make it,
578157527871782951,2019-05-15 09:51:36.292000+00:00,Maybe also have the old name in the title always,
578157492790624286,2019-05-15 09:51:27.928000+00:00,So it's less confusing,
578157477426626570,2019-05-15 09:51:24.265000+00:00,So can we actually make a variation of the role book where it has the themed name for each role?,
578157360309338113,2019-05-15 09:50:56.342000+00:00,Can't find any more issues,
578157208404099084,2019-05-15 09:50:20.125000+00:00,I think I'm done,
578157187398893568,2019-05-15 09:50:15.117000+00:00,Okay,
578157182458265610,2019-05-15 09:50:13.939000+00:00,right,
578157179018936320,2019-05-15 09:50:13.119000+00:00,oh yeah,
578156305676763157,2019-05-15 09:46:44.898000+00:00,Killing Macho twice does nothing?,
578155207964360704,2019-05-15 09:42:23.183000+00:00,I don't think they teamup,
578155114947411979,2019-05-15 09:42:01.006000+00:00,Or do they team up,
578155086052589568,2019-05-15 09:41:54.117000+00:00,Leaves the question if there can be multiple 'psycho groups',
578155046999425027,2019-05-15 09:41:44.806000+00:00,If they're all dead then no,
578155030436118528,2019-05-15 09:41:40.857000+00:00,Okay so if one Psycho of the group is still alive that Psycho group can get Team Wins,
578154959225356298,2019-05-15 09:41:23.879000+00:00,ah,
578154852736172032,2019-05-15 09:40:58.490000+00:00,Enchanted effect disappears when Flute Player dies 😉,
578154797107118080,2019-05-15 09:40:45.227000+00:00,Or one Psycho of that Psycho group,
578154759111049217,2019-05-15 09:40:36.168000+00:00,So the condition is that at least one Psycho is still alive,
578154534304743444,2019-05-15 09:39:42.570000+00:00,Which would mean that a single Psycho should also get one,
578154487772872705,2019-05-15 09:39:31.476000+00:00,"And if the Look-Alike Psycho joins the Psycho and one dies, then shouldn't that one get a Team Win, if the other one wins?",
578154424254332949,2019-05-15 09:39:16.332000+00:00,So technically Psycho is a team,
578154401852817438,2019-05-15 09:39:10.991000+00:00,The Look-Alike joins the Psycho,
578154327550722048,2019-05-15 09:38:53.276000+00:00,Actually,
578154262643605505,2019-05-15 09:38:37.801000+00:00,Well Psycho is the only one where it could've happened,
578153800653602817,2019-05-15 09:36:47.654000+00:00,Then I'll add the condition that Psycho needs to be alive to win,
578153694873387019,2019-05-15 09:36:22.434000+00:00,but why 🤔,
578152478965628931,2019-05-15 09:31:32.539000+00:00,"If everyone on the Psycho's list dies, after the Psycho dies does he get a Team Win?",
578151642311163904,2019-05-15 09:28:13.065000+00:00,"I've just been looking at all the roles, trying to find things that could potentially go wrong or don't make any sense 🤔",
578151515303313408,2019-05-15 09:27:42.784000+00:00,mhm,
578151122683035669,2019-05-15 09:26:09.176000+00:00,"**Angel**
__Basics__
The Angel wins when they are lynched.
__Details__
When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues.
The Angel may be lynched on any day, not just the first one. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. If they haven't, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel.",
578150162900320266,2019-05-15 09:22:20.346000+00:00,If so is the Executioner the only person that can die from the Angel then?,
578149862621577226,2019-05-15 09:21:08.754000+00:00,"if the executioner picks the Angel, the Angel wins, correct?",
578149320105132043,2019-05-15 09:18:59.408000+00:00,"--------------------------------
Or the Angel can give a name, but if that name didn't vote for the Angel it's random?",
578149177641402369,2019-05-15 09:18:25.442000+00:00,"What about?

**Angel**
__Basics__
The Angel wins when they are lynched.
__Details__
When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues.
The Angel may be lynched on any day, not just the first one. When the Angel is lynched a random player that voted for them is also killed, this is announced.",
578148681686056960,2019-05-15 09:16:27.197000+00:00,Does this mean the Angel is an Aura Teller Threat now,
578147895660773376,2019-05-15 09:13:19.794000+00:00,Since it's hard to say it early like for Huntress/Executioner/Mad Scientist,
578147828967145499,2019-05-15 09:13:03.893000+00:00,Or should we just randomize it,
578147812571873291,2019-05-15 09:12:59.984000+00:00,How does the Angel choose who to kill?,
578147035639840771,2019-05-15 09:09:54.749000+00:00,Should we remove the -2 votes debuff then,
578146845025501184,2019-05-15 09:09:09.303000+00:00,"Sth like: `When the Angel is lynched, the Angel must kill one of the people responsible for lynching them`",
578146766348877824,2019-05-15 09:08:50.545000+00:00,If Angel wins the game continues,
578146750859182080,2019-05-15 09:08:46.852000+00:00,Angel is Unaligned now,
578146735956688906,2019-05-15 09:08:43.299000+00:00,Nope,
578146676435582997,2019-05-15 09:08:29.108000+00:00,ooh,
578146555308146714,2019-05-15 09:08:00.229000+00:00,I guess you could manage to survive until the end,
578146433463615518,2019-05-15 09:07:31.179000+00:00,I'm not quite sure if I get the point of Angel...? Can't you just claim Angel and eventually someone will lynch you,
578145753051168778,2019-05-15 09:04:48.956000+00:00,"What about `If the Grandma selects a player with several votes (e.g. Mayor or Grandma), they only lose 1 of their votes, but keep the others. The Grandma also only gains 1 vote, like normally.`",
578145103097626625,2019-05-15 09:02:13.995000+00:00,Maybe the Mayor vote should just still count,
578145061804441601,2019-05-15 09:02:04.150000+00:00,But would the Grandma get 2 votes instead of 1 from that player then,
578144983656169472,2019-05-15 09:01:45.518000+00:00,If the Mayor is selected I would assume both votes aren't counted,
578144485943410689,2019-05-15 08:59:46.854000+00:00,Are Grandma selected players *not allowed to vote* or does their vote simply not count,
578143792293609474,2019-05-15 08:57:01.475000+00:00,mhm,
578143618347565067,2019-05-15 08:56:20.003000+00:00,The thing is nobody knows,
578143546482360320,2019-05-15 08:56:02.869000+00:00,Could be interesting to have 0 votes,
578143478215737344,2019-05-15 08:55:46.593000+00:00,So she could select 0-2 people and then get 0-2 votes,
578143418837106688,2019-05-15 08:55:32.436000+00:00,Should the Grandma just get as many votes as people she selected?,
578142476402163712,2019-05-15 08:51:47.742000+00:00,So we gotta rewrite Grandma and Guardian,
578142330565951499,2019-05-15 08:51:12.972000+00:00,Yes,
578142128966860811,2019-05-15 08:50:24.907000+00:00,"So Flute Bot is done
Would be better if channels were set with a command but doesn't really matter for now",
578138704200073216,2019-05-15 08:36:48.379000+00:00,I'll just put in the channel ids into the bot config for now,
578136111646244874,2019-05-15 08:26:30.266000+00:00,Does this discord have like a bot role or something...?,
578134660920639489,2019-05-15 08:20:44.386000+00:00,So decreasing to 2 is good,
578134638711668737,2019-05-15 08:20:39.091000+00:00,Since it's a buff if Grandma isn't in channel,
578134601873096704,2019-05-15 08:20:30.308000+00:00,Make the count 2 I think,
578134007305338880,2019-05-15 08:18:08.552000+00:00,that flute image is stupid 🤔,
578133772017467392,2019-05-15 08:17:12.455000+00:00,I'm still not sure about Grandma 🤔,
578133648654729216,2019-05-15 08:16:43.043000+00:00,"So for Guardian we're going with this <https://discordapp.com/channels/375597071094382603/545955622127140864/578118624347291658>, correct?",
578133459944472577,2019-05-15 08:15:58.051000+00:00,Do we have a neat icon for it?,
578133361168482304,2019-05-15 08:15:34.501000+00:00,cya,
578133233741332480,2019-05-15 08:15:04.120000+00:00,I thought that was a thing,
578133163717427202,2019-05-15 08:14:47.425000+00:00,Can Flute Players also talk to the enchanted?,
578133118091788292,2019-05-15 08:14:36.547000+00:00,Probably not,
578132808606941195,2019-05-15 08:13:22.760000+00:00,It's just copying messages over,
578132654353022976,2019-05-15 08:12:45.983000+00:00,I can make a Flute Player bot like today,
578130250672898099,2019-05-15 08:03:12.901000+00:00,And we need answers to my questions 🤔,
578126713041715201,2019-05-15 07:49:09.464000+00:00,Which is why we should explain it in <#384458901615280133>,
578125350433718273,2019-05-15 07:43:44.593000+00:00,Imo we should also kind of improve the basic explanation of the game. I had to explain ccs several times last game for example,
578124552601862144,2019-05-15 07:40:34.375000+00:00,I also feel like it will get the Grandma killed really quickly unless it's a really good player,
578124435408814081,2019-05-15 07:40:06.434000+00:00,,
578124130864463872,2019-05-15 07:38:53.825000+00:00,<@!102036304845377536> so do you want to keep that Grandma secret channel thing?,
578120381102292992,2019-05-15 07:23:59.812000+00:00,But I don't think that's clarified,
578120356150378498,2019-05-15 07:23:53.863000+00:00,We did that last game,
578120344867700747,2019-05-15 07:23:51.173000+00:00,Yeah,
578120217503465472,2019-05-15 07:23:20.807000+00:00,On lynch protection you can at least see that maybe someone was *almost* lynched who is on your team and then protect them,
578120127183060992,2019-05-15 07:22:59.273000+00:00,Night protection is just even more luck based than lynch protection,
578119949781041152,2019-05-15 07:22:16.977000+00:00,Make it so you can't even be voted for,
578119780754522136,2019-05-15 07:21:36.678000+00:00,"Guardian should make people so that they can't be voted for in lynch, and then I guess the idea with 2 people at a certain point would also make sense",
578119569852596224,2019-05-15 07:20:46.395000+00:00,Either way I also don't think the secret channel thing makes too much sense,
578119301538643968,2019-05-15 07:19:42.424000+00:00,It already was changed in the s3g1 rules as well,
578118520743919617,2019-05-15 07:16:36.268000+00:00,I thought it just removed votes,
578118490939195392,2019-05-15 07:16:29.162000+00:00,Huh? Did the old version have extra votes?,
578118300761063434,2019-05-15 07:15:43.820000+00:00,Should be fairly easy to make a bot tho,
578117742343880714,2019-05-15 07:13:30.683000+00:00,"Things that we need an answer for before this game:

• Create a rule book variation with all the role names replaced for this game? (please?)",
578117327011184670,2019-05-15 07:11:51.660000+00:00,Nevermind,
578117310749999124,2019-05-15 07:11:47.783000+00:00,oh wait you can't kill anyone,
578117160035942400,2019-05-15 07:11:11.850000+00:00,Doesn't seem worse than Executioner tho,
578116968691925012,2019-05-15 07:10:26.230000+00:00,I read that,
578116949654110238,2019-05-15 07:10:21.691000+00:00,ah right,
578116833543061504,2019-05-15 07:09:54.008000+00:00,I guess you can take the non wolfpack wolf votes or the solo/unaligned ones,
578116449122385921,2019-05-15 07:08:22.355000+00:00,The best use is like proving that you're Townsfolk team now,
578116399675998210,2019-05-15 07:08:10.566000+00:00,You can't target evils since they would find you,
578116359486046208,2019-05-15 07:08:00.984000+00:00,I don't get it,
578116285439934476,2019-05-15 07:07:43.330000+00:00,That doesn't make any sense tho,
578116210030542868,2019-05-15 07:07:25.351000+00:00,I only remembered the x3 votes,
578116162496233474,2019-05-15 07:07:14.018000+00:00,huh,
578116156687122432,2019-05-15 07:07:12.633000+00:00,they get added to a private channel,
578116126421286914,2019-05-15 07:07:05.417000+00:00,oh wait,
578115930362740736,2019-05-15 07:06:18.673000+00:00,oh so now it has quite a big buff,
578115770761084928,2019-05-15 07:05:40.621000+00:00,I was gone for a long time,
578115711176802305,2019-05-15 07:05:26.415000+00:00,So how did it work back then?,
578115585838153728,2019-05-15 07:04:56.532000+00:00,"I did the Cult thing in the edge case list, not sure if it's worth having in the rules",
578115477998403584,2019-05-15 07:04:30.821000+00:00,sort of for Cult,
578115390945886218,2019-05-15 07:04:10.066000+00:00,I already have Cult/Reporter,
578115329742602240,2019-05-15 07:03:55.474000+00:00,What was it originally?,
578115315934822410,2019-05-15 07:03:52.182000+00:00,I've never even seen Grandma in a game,
578115154110185497,2019-05-15 07:03:13.600000+00:00,I did,
578115093087125506,2019-05-15 07:02:59.051000+00:00,I went through the rules for all the roles of this game and made some minor adjustments to clarify things,
578114982101778432,2019-05-15 07:02:32.590000+00:00,So we need to figure out how to make Flute Player work & how Grandma works,
578114221620068352,2019-05-15 06:59:31.277000+00:00,ooh right since the Psycho is also a player,
578114165168930836,2019-05-15 06:59:17.818000+00:00,Does the Executioner select their target like Huntress?,
578114098575966210,2019-05-15 06:59:01.941000+00:00,I guess,
578113926320095235,2019-05-15 06:58:20.872000+00:00,Isn't Angel way too easy to win?,
578113864017903627,2019-05-15 06:58:06.018000+00:00,In case of an odd number of players how many players does a Psycho get?,
578113735240056842,2019-05-15 06:57:35.315000+00:00,Are Grandma votes invisible or visible?,
578113669733416980,2019-05-15 06:57:19.697000+00:00,Do we have a working Flute Player system or something?,
578111462317490186,2019-05-15 06:48:33.408000+00:00,Are Warlock/FT or players in general told if they are no longer enchanted (all Flute Players died)?,
578110080507969546,2019-05-15 06:43:03.959000+00:00,I guess we could add it to the WWW instead,
578109868037111808,2019-05-15 06:42:13.302000+00:00,"We can write ""White Werewolf shows up as White Werewolf"" but that just feels kinda pointless",
578109761783070739,2019-05-15 06:41:47.969000+00:00,"How can we clarify it more than ""The roles given are always the role that player was originally assigned""",
578109287042383872,2019-05-15 06:39:54.782000+00:00,`The roles given are always the role that player was originally assigned`,
578109205693857807,2019-05-15 06:39:35.387000+00:00,About the Reporter thing. Isn't that how Reporter works already?,
578109005214253057,2019-05-15 06:38:47.589000+00:00,For me I just understood you writing in <#575667560620621854> as you have already changed it so I didn't bother commenting on it,
578108676959764481,2019-05-15 06:37:29.327000+00:00,I did change the Cult Leader thing in the edge case list tho,
578108600803655709,2019-05-15 06:37:11.170000+00:00,The point of a changelog is to log changes tho,
576866172616704010,2019-05-11 20:20:13.207000+00:00,Also for example in this game the Guardian only came into play after the ability had already changed,
576736549786353674,2019-05-11 11:45:08.716000+00:00,yeah,
576494054007898142,2019-05-10 19:41:33.217000+00:00,So can we like actually make a final decision on the season badges?,
576020207257255936,2019-05-09 12:18:39.348000+00:00,"Are we going with this: `Perhaps instead 1.5, 2.5 and 3.5 as the thresholds, with 5 being the platinum threshold.` where a win when you're dead counts as half a win?",
576020090349158400,2019-05-09 12:18:11.475000+00:00,We never quite got a final result here,
575583941856198656,2019-05-08 07:25:05.571000+00:00,yeah,
575582952369553418,2019-05-08 07:21:09.659000+00:00,well we aren't changing it for season 1/2 I assume,
575582157469122570,2019-05-08 07:18:00.140000+00:00,I think it would work like that,
575581956700504064,2019-05-08 07:17:12.273000+00:00,ah,
575581867231805441,2019-05-08 07:16:50.942000+00:00,the difference between them stays the same,
575581777318379521,2019-05-08 07:16:29.505000+00:00,wait how would silver be harder if bronze isn't,
575581199251144714,2019-05-08 07:14:11.683000+00:00,yes,
575580463129821204,2019-05-08 07:11:16.178000+00:00,I still think the seasonal badges could be improved by counting death wins tho,
575580435778895874,2019-05-08 07:11:09.657000+00:00,I think everyone thought that's what you wanted to replace,
575580395970494465,2019-05-08 07:11:00.166000+00:00,Well I was talking about seasonal badges for 99% of this conversation,
575580012586074117,2019-05-08 07:09:28.760000+00:00,Well I have no problem with that then 🤔,
575579893635743746,2019-05-08 07:09:00.400000+00:00,So have both seasonal and alltime badges?,
575579759182872616,2019-05-08 07:08:28.344000+00:00,Wait so you want to remove seasonal badges?,
575579720515584015,2019-05-08 07:08:19.125000+00:00,I also assumed that was seasonal,
575579388394078211,2019-05-08 07:06:59.941000+00:00,https://discordapp.com/channels/375597071094382603/545955622127140864/575281361192091649,
575579225386516481,2019-05-08 07:06:21.077000+00:00,"So if you don't make per-season rating, how in the world is the season based badge system supposed to work if it's based on your system what",
575579044041588747,2019-05-08 07:05:37.841000+00:00,I think we're talking about many different things at the same time,
575578672996548629,2019-05-08 07:04:09.377000+00:00,Why have a seasonal badge that probably nobody can get,
575578575483306034,2019-05-08 07:03:46.128000+00:00,You said earlier that you want badges that span all games ever played,
575578501319753728,2019-05-08 07:03:28.446000+00:00,nono,
575578473653993472,2019-05-08 07:03:21.850000+00:00,nono,
575578334176477184,2019-05-08 07:02:48.596000+00:00,So why have platinum? Might as well make that one a lifetime thing,
575577937399644160,2019-05-08 07:01:13.997000+00:00,"I don't like the current season badge system that much, but I also don't like the suggested system with 5 or 6 badges instead of 3 or 4 (depends if 'Season X' counts) based on your rating system",
575577547010736130,2019-05-08 06:59:40.921000+00:00,The only reason I'm complaining about anything is because I don't like your system for season badges specifically,
575577294605647893,2019-05-08 06:58:40.743000+00:00,so... what about season badges?,
575577074094571530,2019-05-08 06:57:48.169000+00:00,https://discordapp.com/channels/375597071094382603/545955622127140864/574812633417383947,
575576996663525376,2019-05-08 06:57:29.708000+00:00,Which started this,
575576978162450432,2019-05-08 06:57:25.297000+00:00,I thought that was the entire point,
575576896973307934,2019-05-08 06:57:05.940000+00:00,And if anyone has 5 wins they most likely would have enough points anyway,
575576819479216138,2019-05-08 06:56:47.464000+00:00,It would give everyone something they can understand,
575576766090051585,2019-05-08 06:56:34.735000+00:00,What about combining your rating system with win counting? e.g. you get gold on 5 wins or on reaching x points.,
575576306910232588,2019-05-08 06:54:45.258000+00:00,"Then it's the same, yeah",
575576225490141195,2019-05-08 06:54:25.846000+00:00,"Idk what you did with the people that weren't undead but won, other than me",
575576129717665803,2019-05-08 06:54:03.012000+00:00,as long as you put all people that won as Undead & Live Win,
575575654012026880,2019-05-08 06:52:09.595000+00:00,"It was assumed Vampire would win, so all remaining players won",
575575594868408320,2019-05-08 06:51:55.494000+00:00,I told Bart I was going to kill myself on the final day,
575575524357963777,2019-05-08 06:51:38.683000+00:00,Only half of the town was undead,
575575496675557376,2019-05-08 06:51:32.083000+00:00,Nope,
575575465314615297,2019-05-08 06:51:24.606000+00:00,nope,
575575418933870597,2019-05-08 06:51:13.548000+00:00,Everyone just won,
575575368803549187,2019-05-08 06:51:01.596000+00:00,Half of the people that won weren't undead,
575574867957514241,2019-05-08 06:49:02.185000+00:00,The game just randomly ended 🤔,
575574823980236830,2019-05-08 06:48:51.700000+00:00,The game ended before I turned undead,
575574035233112074,2019-05-08 06:45:43.648000+00:00,For s2g8?,
575574017654915092,2019-05-08 06:45:39.457000+00:00,oh?,
575573847215177738,2019-05-08 06:44:58.821000+00:00,The only game where I think I played well was when I was Devil,
575573362131337226,2019-05-08 06:43:03.168000+00:00,The thing that makes me question your system the most is my own high rating,
575572383885164545,2019-05-08 06:39:09.936000+00:00,yeah,
575572062618255360,2019-05-08 06:37:53.340000+00:00,Even with 4 WWW wins he would still be worse off,
575571898209927169,2019-05-08 06:37:14.142000+00:00,I just realized this flaw as well,
575571415894589450,2019-05-08 06:35:19.149000+00:00,Oh I see how it is horrible actually,
575571059529613312,2019-05-08 06:33:54.185000+00:00,But the final result stays the same for everyone,
575571015032111105,2019-05-08 06:33:43.576000+00:00,The point is a WWW win counts more than a role with low rating loss,
575570933956345876,2019-05-08 06:33:24.246000+00:00,I don't tho,
575570823834894356,2019-05-08 06:32:57.991000+00:00,No matter what roles you get your final result is always 0-1,
575570762539335682,2019-05-08 06:32:43.377000+00:00,How?,
575570484889124894,2019-05-08 06:31:37.180000+00:00,"Example:
```
I play three games one time with a role with difficulty 1 and lose, team win with a role with difficulty 2, and win with a role with difficulty 3.
Points at first would be: 1*0 + 2*0.5 + 3*1 = 4 
Sum of role difficulties: 1+2+3=6
Final Results: 4/6 = 0.66```",
575569792564592642,2019-05-08 06:28:52.117000+00:00,To get rid of the randomness of roles,
575569703578370058,2019-05-08 06:28:30.901000+00:00,What I suggested is dividing through the sum of role difficulties a player received,
575569277466181635,2019-05-08 06:26:49.308000+00:00,"There is no system that can objectively rate how well a player played in a certain game. But the more fair you try to make it, the bigger of an issue is is that it isn't completely fair imo",
575568713244213278,2019-05-08 06:24:34.787000+00:00,With what I suggested it also just a 0-1 scale,
575568370330763274,2019-05-08 06:23:13.030000+00:00,"My point is that having the best system is great, but if nobody can understand it - and I feel like you're the only one who does - it isn't that useable",
575567748013490186,2019-05-08 06:20:44.658000+00:00,"Count death wins as 0.5, live wins as 1, use your role difficult assignments multiplied with 1/0.5. Add up all the points a player has and divide them by all their role difficulties added up.",
575567149683441664,2019-05-08 06:18:22.005000+00:00,I think counting team wins as something is good,
575567039889014794,2019-05-08 06:17:55.828000+00:00,Counting wins also isn't good in my opinion either,
575566900621213697,2019-05-08 06:17:22.624000+00:00,"I think what you're doing is good, but just too complicated to be the official system we should use here",
575566668311429124,2019-05-08 06:16:27.237000+00:00,"The thing is, it isn't exactly that",
575566405936742422,2019-05-08 06:15:24.682000+00:00,"Probably it's a really good way for you to know who are the good players or something, but it feels like a horrible basis for a fair rank system",
575566284343869440,2019-05-08 06:14:55.692000+00:00,"The whole system feels incredibly intransparent, and I doubt anyone will understand it",
575566211375693834,2019-05-08 06:14:38.295000+00:00,No,
575565761918271489,2019-05-08 06:12:51.136000+00:00,I'm just making sure it's the best role instead of potentially me,
575565718603431937,2019-05-08 06:12:40.809000+00:00,"Well if there's still like 1 werewolf left, then they can still kill one person at night",
575565582284357652,2019-05-08 06:12:08.308000+00:00,Why?,
575565423341469696,2019-05-08 06:11:30.413000+00:00,So what you're saying is it's worth sacrificing some good roles at the end if victory is already certain to get a better rating?,
575564233157115905,2019-05-08 06:06:46.651000+00:00,"But for the rank roles, points is used?",
575563451380793354,2019-05-08 06:03:40.261000+00:00,"So if we have the exact same game twice, but once a Citizen wins and once a White Werewolf, how different would be their points from this?",
575562797795246080,2019-05-08 06:01:04.434000+00:00,I don't understand how that would work mathematically,
575562627472949249,2019-05-08 06:00:23.826000+00:00,But can a player that always got easy roles and always wins even still get the highest rank?,
575561993742712833,2019-05-08 05:57:52.733000+00:00,I don't quite get how the role difficulty thing is a fair system to give out ranks based on it,
575283869943595008,2019-05-07 11:32:42.852000+00:00,If you're good enough to win a majority of games wouldn't your points just be practically randomized? Since the roles are randomized.,
575283676783443998,2019-05-07 11:31:56.799000+00:00,(granted this is already a problem now),
575283586832400384,2019-05-07 11:31:35.353000+00:00,"What if you're the second best player, but the best one is always your enemy, so you lose almost every game?",
575283412722778112,2019-05-07 11:30:53.842000+00:00,"If the difficulty of the role counts, isn't the difference between Platinum and Gold just who got the roles that give more points?",
575283108371234816,2019-05-07 11:29:41.279000+00:00,"Can you get Platinum if you win every game, but missed one in the season?",
575283041619148800,2019-05-07 11:29:25.364000+00:00,"Can you get Platinum if you get a shitty role in each game, but win each one?",
575282628882595844,2019-05-07 11:27:46.960000+00:00,How do games you don't participate in count?,
575282306349268992,2019-05-07 11:26:30.062000+00:00,oh ok,
575282260249673728,2019-05-07 11:26:19.071000+00:00,there has been 1 game,
575282062194376704,2019-05-07 11:25:31.851000+00:00,With Platinum this is not a thing,
575282002832392192,2019-05-07 11:25:17.698000+00:00,If you're just a bit worse than you should be because of bad luck you shouldn't instantly get a lower rank,
575281886939578378,2019-05-07 11:24:50.067000+00:00,Which is why the ranks should have a bigger range to adjust for luck,
575281778173018122,2019-05-07 11:24:24.135000+00:00,and 0.5 is too small of a range for a role,
575281714042241035,2019-05-07 11:24:08.845000+00:00,There's always a bit of a luck factor,
575281636133044252,2019-05-07 11:23:50.270000+00:00,You can always expect a slightly different in rating dependent on luck,
575281580789202954,2019-05-07 11:23:37.075000+00:00,Nobody is going to get 9.5+ by sheer skill only,
575281497498714112,2019-05-07 11:23:17.217000+00:00,I think Platinum is unfair tho,
575281464585748515,2019-05-07 11:23:09.370000+00:00,I like that more,
575280773884674069,2019-05-07 11:20:24.694000+00:00,I don't see the benefit from not being consistent anymore,
575280623015690250,2019-05-07 11:19:48.724000+00:00,it starts at 2.5,
575280573787144202,2019-05-07 11:19:36.987000+00:00,That isn't even listed in you suggestion either,
575280495970222100,2019-05-07 11:19:18.434000+00:00,"Gold/Silver/Bronze, and..?",
575280431977463825,2019-05-07 11:19:03.177000+00:00,"I thought you were replying to my suggesting, saying the plan is exactly what I suggested but ok",
575280224279724032,2019-05-07 11:18:13.658000+00:00,There's a difference between 5 and 3 ranks,
575280126724407297,2019-05-07 11:17:50.399000+00:00,This is literally exactly the definition of 'not exactly what we are gonna do',
575279629061849100,2019-05-07 11:15:51.747000+00:00,But with the point system,
575279604143751168,2019-05-07 11:15:45.806000+00:00,Why don't we just keep Bronze/Silver/Gold?,
575202767195602945,2019-05-07 06:10:26.450000+00:00,I don't understand what you mean,