ID,Timestamp,Contents,Attachments 584408951257432106,2019-06-01 15:52:31.773000+00:00,well if they are fine with it then sure, 584408914645352468,2019-06-01 15:52:23.044000+00:00,ah, 584404113257660417,2019-06-01 15:33:18.304000+00:00,I don't know what that means, 581210574013071361,2019-05-23 20:03:19.215000+00:00,"Season one had a wolf win, S2G1 is unknown, S2G2 - S2G7 were town wins (there was one warlock/ft tie as well actually), S2G8 undead, S3G1 town, S3G2 www, S2G3 town (or something like that)", 581159057470259202,2019-05-23 16:38:36.714000+00:00,with a Day 0, 581159033168330773,2019-05-23 16:38:30.920000+00:00,tomorrow, 581000861711466506,2019-05-23 06:09:59.906000+00:00,ay people that agree 😄, 580999938113142785,2019-05-23 06:06:19.703000+00:00,Actually now that I think about it Lone Wolf should also be allowed to kill Solo roles, 580999788703776769,2019-05-23 06:05:44.081000+00:00,according to what I wrote both would die, 580999150833893386,2019-05-23 06:03:12.001000+00:00,So it's sort of like a Lone Werewolf Priest, 580999082945019923,2019-05-23 06:02:55.815000+00:00,"It's my suggested change to avoid random killing, as that would result in a decent chance of dying yourself", 580998984949039143,2019-05-23 06:02:32.451000+00:00,"` If they kill someone who isn't on the Townsfolk team, the Lone Wolf dies.`", 580996462926626816,2019-05-23 05:52:31.154000+00:00,"Pinned the role list, and the 2 new + 1 changed role, in case anyone else has more feedback 😄", 580996233380888600,2019-05-23 05:51:36.426000+00:00,, 580996104909225994,2019-05-23 05:51:05.796000+00:00,, 580995862516334602,2019-05-23 05:50:08.005000+00:00,, 580995554280996864,2019-05-23 05:48:54.516000+00:00,, 580871762569461797,2019-05-22 21:37:00.272000+00:00,!roles set <@334136126745083907> white_werewolf, 580828290877751306,2019-05-22 18:44:15.813000+00:00,Early signups are now open! <@&577588857793413120>, 580827825947410434,2019-05-22 18:42:24.965000+00:00,😄, 580827405401325569,2019-05-22 18:40:44.699000+00:00,"At first I only thought of Assassin, then realized also Huntress, but additionally also WWW 🤔", 580827306138927115,2019-05-22 18:40:21.033000+00:00,that's a thing, 580827285427322891,2019-05-22 18:40:16.095000+00:00,oooooh, 580827270902448188,2019-05-22 18:40:12.632000+00:00,ooh, 580827083253612577,2019-05-22 18:39:27.893000+00:00,Scared Wolf to Psychic Wolf?, 580826871172825108,2019-05-22 18:38:37.329000+00:00,so Scared Wolf isn't that irrelevant, 580826830655848462,2019-05-22 18:38:27.669000+00:00,hm actually Huntress is also a night kill, 580826783193235459,2019-05-22 18:38:16.353000+00:00,Scared Wolf to Hellhound?, 580826666709024786,2019-05-22 18:37:48.581000+00:00,yeah, 580826624287834132,2019-05-22 18:37:38.467000+00:00,Since it'd be a group of 4/5 wolves, 580826556134326302,2019-05-22 18:37:22.218000+00:00,But that already feels pretty difficult for WWW to have a chance, 580826423556833290,2019-05-22 18:36:50.609000+00:00,What about removing a WW and adding a Hellhound instead or something like that, 580825791345065994,2019-05-22 18:34:19.878000+00:00,it's not minor though, 580825578794385522,2019-05-22 18:33:29.202000+00:00,"I see no problem with having an alternative (like Lone Wolf and Lone Warlock now), but I really dislike replacing WWW", 580825392919871519,2019-05-22 18:32:44.886000+00:00,I'll never agree, 580825226472980509,2019-05-22 18:32:05.202000+00:00,Maybe a weaker WWW alternative though, 580825187218358340,2019-05-22 18:31:55.843000+00:00,I still don't like the idea of changing WWW that much, 580825136836378644,2019-05-22 18:31:43.831000+00:00,ah, 580824993445707797,2019-05-22 18:31:09.644000+00:00,Is your point that Werewolf team is too weak?, 580824961720254464,2019-05-22 18:31:02.080000+00:00,"I still don't quite get this https://discordapp.com/channels/375597071094382603/577592462265024513/580822790358171670", 580824762306265089,2019-05-22 18:30:14.536000+00:00,yeah, 580824576007864352,2019-05-22 18:29:30.119000+00:00,right it doesn't really matter if they dont choose anyone, 580824071994867712,2019-05-22 18:27:29.953000+00:00,"**Lone Wolf** __Basics__ Each night, the lone wolf may kill one player. When the first member of the wolfpack dies, the Lone Wolf joins the wolfpack. __Details__ The Lone Wolf doesn’t know the other wolves, and starts off all alone. Each night, they may kill one player on their own. If they kill someone who isn't on the Townsfolk team, the Lone Wolf dies. When a member of the wolf pack dies, the Lone Wolf loses their powers and joins the wolf pack. Killing a player is an end effect; the lone wolf will attack a victim at the end of the night.", 580823505487134760,2019-05-22 18:25:14.887000+00:00,Could be risky to just guess, 580823414567206912,2019-05-22 18:24:53.210000+00:00,Usually it's only an ~50% chance of hitting townsfolk by chance, 580823267804315715,2019-05-22 18:24:18.219000+00:00,Have Lone Wolf die if they don't kill a member of Townsfolk every night, 580823054276493353,2019-05-22 18:23:27.310000+00:00,Or well very closely related, 580822981182226450,2019-05-22 18:23:09.883000+00:00,Why are those two related?, 580822579561103362,2019-05-22 18:21:34.129000+00:00,Lone Wolf could just have something like can't kill first night maybe?, 580822435797008385,2019-05-22 18:20:59.853000+00:00,Yeah I need to add it again, 580822400636157957,2019-05-22 18:20:51.470000+00:00,I deleted that part, 580822378561536022,2019-05-22 18:20:46.207000+00:00,wait no, 580822305534509089,2019-05-22 18:20:28.796000+00:00,Lone Warlock does what you say already, 580815290120667169,2019-05-22 17:52:36.191000+00:00,*Town Crier, 580815048008663083,2019-05-22 17:51:38.467000+00:00,So Dog actually has a decent chance of choosing Townsfolk/Town Crier, 580814953322381315,2019-05-22 17:51:15.892000+00:00,Dog can now turn into Town Crier, 580808153663275030,2019-05-22 17:24:14.727000+00:00,"**Lone Warlock** __Basics__ Each night, the Lone Warlock may check one player’s role. When the first member of the wolfpack dies, the Lone Warlock joins the wolfpack. __Details__ Each night, the Lone Warlock may inspect a player. The Lone Warlock will be told what their role is.The Lone Warlock is a corrupted version of a fortune teller, with traits of the lone wolf. It is the Lone Warlock’s goal to survive with all the werewolves. Inspecting a player is an immediate effect; the role will be revealed immediately. When a member of the wolf pack dies, the Lone Warlock loses their powers and joins the wolf pack. The Lone Warlock’s powers are influenced by disguising powers. When a member of the wolf pack dies, the Lone Warlock loses their powers and joins the wolf pack. The Lone Warlock will see the White Werewolf as a Werewolf. The Lone Warlock’s powers are influenced by the flute player; if they’re enchanted, and there’s still a flute player alive, inspecting a player has a 60% chance of displaying them as a flute player, and a 40% chance of displaying them as their actual role (or at least the role that the tanner gave them). Also here's Lone Warlock", 580805566994317323,2019-05-22 17:13:58.017000+00:00,"I'll be adding what Vyryn suggested for Lone Wolf as `Lone Warlock`, but also keeping Lone Wolf. Is that a name we should use? Does anyone have any better name suggestions? Tanner / Psycho won't be in the next game until we're sure what to do", 580711312758145024,2019-05-22 10:59:26.056000+00:00,So absolutely nothing logged by bot anywhere, 580711278683619351,2019-05-22 10:59:17.932000+00:00,But apparently S2G4 was run by hand, 580711220257226762,2019-05-22 10:59:04.002000+00:00,I'm very confused, 580711193040257045,2019-05-22 10:58:57.513000+00:00,There was something with part 1 and part 2 or something, 580700571451916288,2019-05-22 10:16:45.129000+00:00,<@!334136126745083907> did you not have a message from S2G4?, 580700089010487306,2019-05-22 10:14:50.106000+00:00,I have you as tanner for that, 580700056743706625,2019-05-22 10:14:42.413000+00:00,well maybe there was a failed s2g3 start?, 580700004004397056,2019-05-22 10:14:29.839000+00:00,huh, 580699843102769153,2019-05-22 10:13:51.477000+00:00,"<@266859159155113984> Werewolf (Infected), ? <@254322787878043648> ?, Dead [Cult] <@!334136126745083907> Huntress, Dead [Executioner] <@311657189167202314> ?, Dead [Wolves] <@264453632571867136> ?, Dead [Wolves] ""Trickster"" ?, Dead [Wolves] ""Vincent"" ?, Dead [Cult] <@268475541772828672> ?, Dead [Wolves] <@!335939091830931476> ?, Dead [Wolves] <@!309072997950554113> Runner, ? <@!125449182663278592> Macho, Alive ""Pico"" *Wolf Team*, Dead [Huntress]", 580699267589734451,2019-05-22 10:11:34.264000+00:00,The <#506480064800489472> is incredibly vague and incomplete, 580699148337152051,2019-05-22 10:11:05.832000+00:00,<@!334136126745083907> do you remember anything else about that game you talked about?, 580698972986015745,2019-05-22 10:10:24.025000+00:00,Well you were Butcher twice in a row according to this info 😛, 580698731729649665,2019-05-22 10:09:26.505000+00:00,According to Vyryn's info yes, 580698365776494592,2019-05-22 10:07:59.255000+00:00,"So if you started in S1G7, it must've been S2G4", 580698312924069890,2019-05-22 10:07:46.654000+00:00,"S1G7 you were Psycho, S2G1 Butcher, S2G2 Butcher, S2G3 Tanner, S2G4 has 2 people with role listed, S2G5 Warlock, S2G6 Barber, S2G7 WWW, S2G8 'Undead' (at the end at least), S3G1 Vampire, S3G2 WWW, S3G3 FT", 580697691294662666,2019-05-22 10:05:18.446000+00:00,It probably was S2G4, 580697539519447040,2019-05-22 10:04:42.260000+00:00,Maybe this wasn't one of those games tho, 580697505797505064,2019-05-22 10:04:34.220000+00:00,And Vyryn is still looking for people that do, 580697472872087553,2019-05-22 10:04:26.370000+00:00,From what I heard nobody knows how those games went, 580697411496968203,2019-05-22 10:04:11.737000+00:00,I don't believe so, 580697315296149525,2019-05-22 10:03:48.801000+00:00,I think several games are even completely missing from Vyryns thing, 580697215190958090,2019-05-22 10:03:24.934000+00:00,I don't understand the documentation of the old games either, 580650583216881665,2019-05-22 06:58:07.005000+00:00,Usually I've only seen Lone Wolves having their ability for 1-2 nights, 580650430762319872,2019-05-22 06:57:30.657000+00:00,Is it common that a Lone Wolf stays lone for more than like 2 nights?, 580650038267478016,2019-05-22 06:55:57.079000+00:00,Also doesn't he turn into a normal wolf?, 580650016029540353,2019-05-22 06:55:51.777000+00:00,weird name if he doesn't start out in the pack, 580649834911105044,2019-05-22 06:55:08.595000+00:00,"I think we should just keep Lone Wolf and use it less often, and instead also have Lone Warlock", 580639683382345731,2019-05-22 06:14:48.282000+00:00,"Lone Wolf being Lone Warlock sounds good to me, the suggested solution for Tanner feels weird to me though. Not sure if I agree about Psycho.", 578931330985885715,2019-05-17 13:06:25.331000+00:00,Even if it isn't on the list 😄, 578931289013485570,2019-05-17 13:06:15.324000+00:00,Except that Arch is WWW in this game, 578887212985483304,2019-05-17 10:11:06.780000+00:00,"marhjo puts it into a randomizer, copies the results into a sheet, that generates a command for each player and then we run all of them", 578879528332558336,2019-05-17 09:40:34.616000+00:00,Night 1 is where stuff actually happens, 578879490772697088,2019-05-17 09:40:25.661000+00:00,but nothing happens on Day 0, 578879456807092224,2019-05-17 09:40:17.563000+00:00,like half a day, 578879380944584727,2019-05-17 09:39:59.476000+00:00,The day that is going on right now will be Day 0, 578879297268350976,2019-05-17 09:39:39.526000+00:00,probably in a few hours, 578504825310806027,2019-05-16 08:51:38.454000+00:00,Yeah I don't think we wanted things like !check and !kill actually, 578501515606753280,2019-05-16 08:38:29.359000+00:00,I always thought we didn't want to automize the roles, 578498014688051211,2019-05-16 08:24:34.675000+00:00,yes, 578492775465615370,2019-05-16 08:03:45.547000+00:00,Like 3?, 578492204675497995,2019-05-16 08:01:29.460000+00:00,I guess for now yes since the one I made isn't connected to a database or anything, 578492076170280960,2019-05-16 08:00:58.822000+00:00,Seperate one?, 578491319899389952,2019-05-16 07:57:58.513000+00:00,But not who specifically, 578491309673676830,2019-05-16 07:57:56.075000+00:00,Since they know they are talking to a confirmed Innocent, 578491250420744204,2019-05-16 07:57:41.948000+00:00,I feel like if the Grandma can anonymously talk with the selected players it would be a noteable change, 578489442487107604,2019-05-16 07:50:30.903000+00:00,"Also since we have a system for talking in channels without being in them (for Flute Players) again, should the Grandma be able to talk in the secret channel with the selected player(s) again, but anonymously?", 578488639265177610,2019-05-16 07:47:19.400000+00:00,The amount of players the Grandma chose, 578481658047496192,2019-05-16 07:19:34.948000+00:00,You have to sing to get them, 578479984612474891,2019-05-16 07:12:55.970000+00:00,Now that we have this we should ask here more often 🤔, 578479809273790485,2019-05-16 07:12:14.166000+00:00,Most of the other things are either pretty minor or clarifications, 578479722653024256,2019-05-16 07:11:53.514000+00:00,Angel/Guardian/Grandma are the most noteable changes, 578479456495206410,2019-05-16 07:10:50.057000+00:00,That was a change in v4 because it felt like a really easy role to win with, 578477929936191510,2019-05-16 07:04:46.097000+00:00,Isn't Angel harder now?, 578463279572320256,2019-05-16 06:06:33.178000+00:00,what did it do tho, 578462557380280322,2019-05-16 06:03:40.994000+00:00,The automatic protection seems quite powerful, 578197420643581952,2019-05-15 12:30:07.470000+00:00,great 👍, 578195933192519704,2019-05-15 12:24:12.834000+00:00,We can make Runner a solo role for you specifically, 578174356912341002,2019-05-15 10:58:28.648000+00:00,"There's no WWW, but you're still WWW", 578174308321329152,2019-05-15 10:58:17.063000+00:00,You're WWW next game, 578137463898505226,2019-05-15 08:31:52.668000+00:00,The Day Kill would kill the Scared Wolf, 578137437016948738,2019-05-15 08:31:46.259000+00:00,Yeah, 578137379026632704,2019-05-15 08:31:32.433000+00:00,Oh yeah Scared Wolf can survive Huntress,https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577592462265024513/578137378573778954/unknown.png 578137111514054656,2019-05-15 08:30:28.653000+00:00,"According to how we handle it Huntress can be a night kill Which according to the rules the Scared Wolf would survive", 578137071169044480,2019-05-15 08:30:19.034000+00:00,Actually, 578136954080591872,2019-05-15 08:29:51.118000+00:00,Scared Wolf is only night protection, 578102475048091668,2019-05-15 06:12:50.676000+00:00,Do the elected roles keep their names?, 577889258166157333,2019-05-14 16:05:35.810000+00:00,It weakens town by removing a barber (who can kill & definitely confirm themself) tho, 577887987350634517,2019-05-14 16:00:32.824000+00:00,, 577887917398032384,2019-05-14 16:00:16.146000+00:00,That sounds like it would make sense to me, 577887737491750913,2019-05-14 15:59:33.253000+00:00,"I don't really see a point of having 2 Barbers, but I think having a single immediate kill in the entire game could be interesting", 577887499658068014,2019-05-14 15:58:36.549000+00:00,Since Barber only can kill during the day I think it's fine, 577887255117692938,2019-05-14 15:57:38.246000+00:00,immediately, 577887123043123211,2019-05-14 15:57:06.757000+00:00,Barber could work maybe, 577887106542862336,2019-05-14 15:57:02.823000+00:00,But if a newer player is FT and screws up it would be horrible for town, 577886920638464018,2019-05-14 15:56:18.500000+00:00,"Fortune Apprentice was chosen, since it's rarely used and we used a lot of the other investigative roles last time", 577886777860423680,2019-05-14 15:55:44.459000+00:00,Last game Town had 3 and they all died quickly, 577886655772491796,2019-05-14 15:55:15.351000+00:00,But that would be very little investigative roles, 577886365153493002,2019-05-14 15:54:06.062000+00:00,"`If there are multiple flute players, then they are one team, and they will work together. Each flute player will be able to enchant one player.`", 577886306470985748,2019-05-14 15:53:52.071000+00:00,But you're right that it's different for Flute Player, 577886270559223840,2019-05-14 15:53:43.509000+00:00,I thought they were like Pyro where they both had the full ability, 577886167127556096,2019-05-14 15:53:18.849000+00:00,Oh then that makes sense imo, 577886108067561499,2019-05-14 15:53:04.768000+00:00,Right, 577886097925865499,2019-05-14 15:53:02.350000+00:00,ooh, 577885974143565855,2019-05-14 15:52:32.838000+00:00,that's 8 days if nobody dies, 577885922373140492,2019-05-14 15:52:20.495000+00:00,Then it's 4 enchanted players per day tho, 577885735563034624,2019-05-14 15:51:35.956000+00:00,I think we didn't want Vampire/Devil/WWW all the time, 577885687639048203,2019-05-14 15:51:24.530000+00:00,I still think Flute Player should have a role like Demon/Undead that helps them, 577885058443247626,2019-05-14 15:48:54.518000+00:00,I feel like the WWs will already be quite a bit stronger since there's no WWW like usually tho, 577884745371877394,2019-05-14 15:47:39.876000+00:00,True, 577884643630514176,2019-05-14 15:47:15.619000+00:00,We do have Cupid/Psycho, 577884347093221403,2019-05-14 15:46:04.919000+00:00,There was an Infected Wolf of course but still, 577884308635779072,2019-05-14 15:45:55.750000+00:00,Isn't 30% more then this game had originally, 577884210044600367,2019-05-14 15:45:32.244000+00:00,I think the main point is that it's roles we didn't use last time, 577883972219043852,2019-05-14 15:44:35.542000+00:00,This suggested role distribution uses many of the roles we didn't use last time, 577883876270276618,2019-05-14 15:44:12.666000+00:00,Yeah, 577883766421192714,2019-05-14 15:43:46.476000+00:00,Rules V2, 577883559335821325,2019-05-14 15:42:57.103000+00:00,"Since we had quite a few of those last time (Huntsman, Aura Teller, etc)", 577883490926854156,2019-05-14 15:42:40.793000+00:00,I think old just means pre v2 roles,