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Werewolves Bot C BOT 11-Jul-23 02:23 PM
@Ms Mat Dubois has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 1 @Ms Mat Dubois
14:24
✅ Added @Tom Crust the Sheriff to the CC!
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Ms Mat Dubois 11-Jul-23 02:24 PM
oi
14:24
I'm chef, you're one of my waiters
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 11-Jul-23 02:26 PM
cool
14:26
i hope you dont die Night 1 this time pffffft
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Ms Mat Dubois 11-Jul-23 02:26 PM
wanna just believe me (that would be so cool) or do you need proof
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 11-Jul-23 02:27 PM
ill just believe you
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Ms Mat Dubois 11-Jul-23 02:27 PM
wooooo
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 11-Jul-23 02:27 PM
immediately claiming Chef Day 0 without being Chef seems a bit bold
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Ms Mat Dubois 11-Jul-23 02:27 PM
bold for me for sure lmao
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 11-Jul-23 02:27 PM
and messaging the wrong waiters as chef seems a bit strange because then you wont be able to cc the right waiters
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Ms Mat Dubois 11-Jul-23 11:47 PM
so, uh, mind telling me your alignment?
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 11-Jul-23 11:59 PM
Well, it's town
23:59
Same as the other two waiters I assume pffffft
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 02:11 AM
lmao yep
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 12:52 PM
still yep and no lmao
12:52
@Tom Crust the Sheriff can i know your role at least
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:35 PM
@Tom Crust the Sheriff :3? anyway thoughts on jay
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:35 PM
I was definitely exepcting one of Macho, Ranger, Huntress, Idiot or Runner to be present
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:36 PM
hmm
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:37 PM
Ranger is still a pretty weak one, but it's possible that's the "intended" mayor role
18:38
Though we'll also have to assume that there will be a scum mayor attempt most likely
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:39 PM
are you sure you're town btw
18:39
like. I'd like to work together? I can send food
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:39 PM
I might be hell-aligned journalist, let me re-read my role
18:45
Sure, send poisoned food to all the wolves gibagul
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:47 PM
Alright, such as
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:48 PM
let me quickly ask in wolfpack /s
18:48
I have no idea
18:49
I do theorize fed is a wolf
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:54 PM
i can see it but idk
18:54
who's your journal target
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:54 PM
"who"
18:54
It's currently Citizen
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:55 PM
i forgor 💀
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 06:55 PM
If you want a code you can have one, though It'd be hardly helpful (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 06:59 PM
I'd like a code
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 07:01 PM
enjoy your code: mat-0q2zr8q2hr09qh2fhoqwfqpaws9fhoqa
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 07:11 PM
woo
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 09:44 PM
Alright
21:44
So you'll really be down to 2 waiters, huh?
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:07 PM
@Ms Mat Dubois Hey.
22:07
I have some things we need to discuss
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:27 PM
do tell, please
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Ms Mat Dubois
do tell, please
Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:28 PM
So you're down to two waiters now, right?
22:29
I have some information that may be useful to you now
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
I am.
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
The other waiter is wolf. (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
Oh?
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
Can you promote me in this cc please?
22:32
I will tell you more afterwards
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Werewolves Bot C BOT 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
✅ Promoted @Tom Crust the Sheriff!
22:32
✅ Demoted @Ms Mat Dubois!
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:32 PM
Federick was town
22:32
I'm the Flute Player
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I'm hoping you will not be telling anyone else this, of course.
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:33 PM
Alright your journo claim was pretty convincing tbh
22:33
Not particularly planning on it
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:33 PM
I'm in a bit of a situation here
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:33 PM
How do you know fed was town
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:33 PM
The Fortune Teller has claimed to me
22:34
Before phase change
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But now they went silent (edited)
22:34
They may have checked me
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However.
22:34
They checked Swurtle in N1, so they have no confirmed townies so far
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Swurtle being a wolf
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They may have not checked yet or not checked me, but I have no way of knowing
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And if they did check they may have told somebody else
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But.
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:35 PM
why in lords name would an FT claim like that
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:35 PM
If they happened to have an accident tonight, maybe that would save me
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Ms Mat Dubois
why in lords name would an FT claim like that
Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:35 PM
My claim was convincing and they wanted to convince me to lynch Swurtle
22:35
I'm not 100% sure on it, of course
22:36
But they told me they checked Swurtle as Wolf and I find it believable
22:36
The Fortune Teller is @Sulphur King Katy
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:36 PM
this is interesting but it doesn't explain the fed thing
22:36
hm!
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:36 PM
I don't know that fed is town
22:36
But I'm fairly confident
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:36 PM
hmmmm
22:37
winning with flute sounds pretty fun to me.
22:37
i could pretend to work with wolves in the meanwhile
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:37 PM
Now if you told me your other waiter I could maybe say with more certainity afterwards, but you might be reluctant to tell me (However it is in my interest to keep the other waiter alive too - I can win with them alive too after all)
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Ms Mat Dubois
winning with flute sounds pretty fun to me.
Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:38 PM
My chances are low currently, I think.
22:38
But since I have no interest in killing the wolves, working with me does not harm your alternative win condition in any way
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In fact, if you use my information to give the wolves the FT it would help the wolves as well
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Especially as Swurtle has been exposed already
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And there's only 3 wolves
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I'm going to assume Swurtle is not your waiter. If they are you can be pretty much completely certain they're wolf
22:40
Otherwise, I'd say it's highly likely the other waiter is wolf
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:40 PM
the "alive waiters" stuff has always been unclear to me
22:41
imagine you decide to work with WWW, can you win with yourself, your www waiter and other waiters? or just the www?
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:41 PM
WWW must kill everyone else except UA
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So it would be just WWW and Chef
22:41
UAs are ignored for win conditions
22:41
So e.g. I win whenever everyone but you (and me) is enchanted
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:41 PM
i guess you don't need to kill, yeah
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:42 PM
You win when anyone wins and at least 1 waiter is alive
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:42 PM
i could maybe convince my wolf waiter to betray their team
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:42 PM
In some past games with 2p Hell or Flute times it was thus possible to win with a losing waiter
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Ms Mat Dubois
i could maybe convince my wolf waiter to betray their team
Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:42 PM
No. The waiter cant do that.
22:42
The waiter can lose while you win
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 10:42 PM
right they don't win
22:42
confusingggg
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Tom Crust the Sheriff
In some past games with 2p Hell or Flute times it was thus possible to win with a losing waiter
Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:43 PM
If your Hell or Flute waiter dies, but a town/wolf waiter remains and Hell/Flute wins (with the remaining waiter being soulless/enchanted) You win, but the waiter still loses
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Anyway, like I said I have no interest in killing wolves
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In fact I wanted to mislynch today
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So there's no harm in working with me... until I inevitable die and lose
22:43
But just the FT info alone will put the wolves ahead if you give it to them
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Increasing both their and your chances of winning
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So give this info to your waiter. If somehow they end up being town the only thing that happens is that I get exposed, but that risk is worth it for me
22:45
The fact that the FT claim went silent on me does not bode well for me, so I'm hoping on the fact that they can be killed before spreading the info
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 10:52 PM
I do also have to select a enchanting target tonight.
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Optimally I enchant a player who stays alive as long as possible
22:55
Have you already leaked the TI to wolves. It might be better to wait actually.
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@Ms Mat Dubois
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It occured to me that if im not exposed by TI, I'll be exposed by having leaked the TI
22:57
So maybe its not so smart after all
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Ms Mat Dubois 12-Jul-23 11:19 PM
I haven't leaked it
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 11:19 PM
Good
23:19
The FT may not have checked yet actually
23:20
So hold off on that for now
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 12-Jul-23 11:45 PM
I believe the smartest move for wolves will be to kill Jay. But they probably know that. If federick ends up being town, that's info they definitely will want to hide
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:32 AM
@Ms Mat Dubois I think it is likely that Jay may die tonight - its the wolf's best move. Thus there is a decent chance I might have to go for mayor tomorrow to stay consistent. If I can survive this night, tomorrow and the next night it should be a win for the both of us, I believe. For surviving tonight and tomorrow I will need to hope chance is on my side (I think it should be), however next night could proof to be difficult if I become Mayor. Thus I would like to request charmed food. (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 12:34 AM
I can send you food?
00:34
yes
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ok
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:35 AM
Yes, thank you.
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 12:46 AM
i have nothing against telling you the wolf waiter tbh
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:46 AM
That would be cool actually
00:46
I just made a realization
00:47
Most likely 2 people die tonight and 1 tomorrow and most likely the two of us should be safe
00:47
So if I become Mayor we'd already have half the votes
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So winning might actually be quite reasonable
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Ms Mat Dubois
i have nothing against telling you the wolf waiter tbh
Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:48 AM
If you do I might be able to optimize tonight's enchant
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Werewolves Bot C BOT 13-Jul-23 12:57 AM
Alive Players | Total: 9 🐱 - katyhawk (@Sulphur King Katy) thonk - swurtle (@Spittoon Swurtle the Barkeep) 🛠️ - mctsts (@Tom Crust the Sheriff) 🧋 - thekremblin (@Bandito Leader Krem) 🎨 - captainluffy (@Captain Luffy) 🤠 - huckhuck55 (@Huck the Prospector) 👁‍🗨 - matstress (@Ms Mat Dubois) 🐙 - alphaviki (@Deputy Al F.A. Viki) 🦎 - shapechange (@Bandito Leader Jay) (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 12:57 AM
oh true!
00:57
Let's just do it. It's- are you sure you're not a wolf trying to get the solos name
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:58 AM
I mean I'm sure
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I thought you were sure too
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 12:58 AM
am i sure...
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 12:59 AM
I can't really do anything else to confirm myself besides tell you who I'll enchant in advance (which kinda hinges one the info you may have, currently its a delay enchant on krem)
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I can explain my current plans / thoughts in more detail
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I'm hoping that Jay will find the TK and kill Swurtle, who as I told you before was seen as Wolf by TI and that wolves kill Jay - pretty much the optimal choices for both. Then Jay hopefully reveals a wolf or citzen (potential snw). With this a D2 lynch should be possible and I do another mayor bid. This will lower the player count to 6, which means 4 people I need to enchant (since neither you nor I needs to be enchanted): potential living players for this are alpha, krem, huck(*), katy and luffy. I can enchant one of them tonight, I can enchant one of them tomorrow night. If you send me charmed food and I survive the night and next day, I can hopefully enchant another one
01:03
With this I need just 1 unenchanted player killed in another way (lynch, wolves or TK) (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 01:04 AM
Eh, I like making nonsensical leaps that may or may not ruin my chances, I'll just belie- yeah ill just tell you
01:04
it's Luffy
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 01:04 AM
Interesting
01:04
I assume you don't know the other wolves?
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This means invinci, krem, alpha or huck are the TK. Hopefully not invinci since I need somebody to die
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Though I already was fairly certain luffy was not the TK so this isn't really news
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 01:27 AM
things. thoughts
01:27
occurences
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 02:29 AM
just so you know, i will undoubtedly not be up in time tomorrow
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Ms Mat Dubois
just so you know, i will undoubtedly not be up in time tomorrow
Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 02:32 AM
wdym?
02:32
in time for what
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 11:27 AM
phase change
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 01:39 PM
yet i was
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:46 PM
oh. @Tom Crust the Sheriff turtle is my waiter
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:46 PM
huh?
17:47
Right
17:47
He's luffy
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My bad
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:47 PM
luffy got sub- ye
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:47 PM
He didn't get checked - Jay and Swurtle did
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:48 PM
hmmmm
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:48 PM
I kind of want two unenchanted to be lynched today.. so I dont have a lot of reason to do anything about this
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:49 PM
i mean alright
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no wolf cooperation tho
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:49 PM
If two unenchanted people get lynched and I get mayor and you have sent charmed food we win
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(most likely)
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cause we'd have 3 out of 6 votes, giving us another night to enchant the final player if any remain
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:51 PM
katy asked who my waiters are btw, haven't told them but
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Werewolves Bot C BOT 13-Jul-23 05:51 PM
Alive Players | Total: 7 🐱 - katyhawk (@Sulphur King Katy) 🛠️ - mctsts (@Tom Crust the Sheriff) 🧋 - thekremblin (@Bandito Leader Krem) 🤠 - huckhuck55 (@Huck the Prospector) 👁‍🗨 - matstress (@Ms Mat Dubois) 🐙 - alphaviki (@Deputy Al F.A. Viki) 🐢 - mister.turtle (@Old Mr Turtle) (edited)
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:51 PM
wouldn't we have 3/5?
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@Tom Crust the Sheriff
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:52 PM
no, 5p + a mayor vote
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so 6 votes for 5 players (worst case)
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this is assuming somehow nobody dies at night
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:52 PM
5 players will be left if two get lynched. including the mayor vote we'd have 3
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right??
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:52 PM
yea but we're 2 out of 5 players
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and with mayor we get 3 votes
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the other 3 have 3 votes too
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it'd still be enough to win
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 05:53 PM
ok ok
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 05:53 PM
I either need 2 unenchanted people to be lynched today, or an unenchanted person to die tonight
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 07:59 PM
alpha and turtle lynch is two unenchanted which is great for us
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 08:02 PM
nice!
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 08:30 PM
I think I may have made a miscalculation. If these lynches work out we immediately win?
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I might be going insane
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 09:20 PM
if the lynch goes as planned i need to enchant only one more player
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Tom Crust the Sheriff 13-Jul-23 09:59 PM
@Ms Mat Dubois two unenchanted die, leaving 3 unechanted, you/me (dont need to be enchanted) and one person ill instantly enchant
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krem and huck are enchanted, katy, you me are not
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alpha and turtle are dying
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thats the 7 remaining players
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Ms Mat Dubois 13-Jul-23 10:06 PM
niceee
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turt admitted he was wolf at the last second lol
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