VIP Wolves Revamped - aura-teller

Werewolves Bot C BOT 13-Sep-21 02:01 PM

Aura Teller | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Each night, the Aura Teller may check a target to determine if they are “a threat” or “not a threat”. Details The Aura Teller cannot see a player’s role, but they can check whether or not they are a threat. Lycans, and roles classified as killing roles show up as a threat. The Aura Teller’s inspection is an immediate ability. The Aura Teller is only affected by strong disguises and redirections. Some roles or players may be able to kill, but will not show up as threats as they are neither lycans nor a role classified as a killing role.

White Werewolf 13-Sep-21 02:28 PM

Wellll well welllll

Werewolves Bot C BOT 13-Sep-21 02:28 PM

Werewolf Power Alpha Wolf Disguised Fox Infecting Wolf Saboteur Wolf Tanner Corrupt Wolf Pack Tanner

Werewolf Miscellaneous Bloody Butcher Hellhound Scared Wolf Sneaking Wolf Wolf Wolf's Cub Knowledge Wolf

White Werewolf 13-Sep-21 02:29 PM

Ah SnW fucking SnW

Werewolves Bot C BOT 13-Sep-21 06:52 PM

Townsfolk Miscellaneous Assistant Bard Bartender Child Citizen Cursed Civilian Fortune Apprentice Journalist Macho Ranger Runner Town Crier Trickster Acrobat Amnesiac Idiot Tasty Villager

Ranger | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Ranger may select a player to reveal with their dying breath. Details The Ranger may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Ranger wants. When the Ranger dies in any way other than by directly being lynched, their target will be revealed in story time. The Ranger’s role, their target, and their role will be revealed to all. If the Ranger did not target a living player, the Ranger’s role isn’t revealed. The Ranger is affected by strong disguises.

Wisp 13-Sep-21 10:07 PM

@Participant you may read someones aura

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 06:47 AM

Luffy @Host

White Werewolf

Luffy @Host

Vampire 14-Sep-21 08:04 AM

Are you sure?

Wisp 14-Sep-21 09:26 AM

@Participant please confirm

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 09:34 AM

Yes @Wisp

Wisp 14-Sep-21 09:35 AM

@Medium is Not a Threat

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 11:27 AM

Hmm good

Werewolves Bot C BOT 14-Sep-21 12:44 PM

Macho | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics If attacked, the Macho will be told the name of one of their attackers and will not die until the beginning of the next night. Details If the Macho is attacked during the night, they will survive until the end of the next day, and will be able to attempt to spread the word about their killer. If a Macho is attacked, the fact that the Macho was attacked that night is announced in storytime. The Macho will know who attacked them, and it is up to them to decide whether they want to share this information or not. At the end of that day, the Macho dies. If it’s a group that attacked the Macho, the attacker’s name is told to the Macho. If the Macho is attacked multiple times in a single night, they will not be killed by any of them, and the kill they are informed of will be chosen randomly from all their attackers. If the Macho is lynched, they will die as usual.

Wisp 14-Sep-21 10:05 PM

@Participant do you wish to read a player's aura?

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 10:10 PM

hmm sharl

@Host

White Werewolf

hmm sharl

Wisp 14-Sep-21 10:10 PM

you sure?

this is an immediate ability

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 10:11 PM

yes

@Wisp

Wisp 14-Sep-21 10:11 PM

@Warlock is A Threat

White Werewolf 14-Sep-21 10:11 PM

ooh

White Werewolf 15-Sep-21 05:52 PM

Ughhh with SnW I never know what to do

Werewolves Bot C BOT 15-Sep-21 05:52 PM

Sneaking Wolf | Werewolf Miscellaneous Basics The Sneaking Wolf will appear as a citizen to all investigative roles. Details The Sneaking Wolf is strongly disguised as citizen and will appear as citizen to most roles and powers inspecting them. If the Sneaking Wolf loses their role, they no longer appear as citizen.

Werewolves Bot C BOT 15-Sep-21 06:06 PM

Townsfolk Killing Assassin Barber Cult Leader Executioner Huntress Mad Scientist Priest Witch

✅ Created #baker!

White Werewolf 15-Sep-21 06:15 PM

I feel like macho claim was a bad bad idea

White Werewolf 15-Sep-21 10:00 PM

@Host I wanna check turtle aka reaper

aka mayor

And yes I'm sure

Hello

Vampire 15-Sep-21 10:03 PM

im here lemme check

@Reaper is Not a Threat

White Werewolf 15-Sep-21 10:04 PM

Ah good

Alright it's time to do it

Wisp 15-Sep-21 10:04 PM

Sorry my WiFi crashed as I tried doing ut

Werewolves Bot C BOT 15-Sep-21 10:04 PM

✅ Created #trusted-maybe!

Wisp

Sorry my WiFi crashed as I tried doing ut

White Werewolf 15-Sep-21 10:05 PM

F

White Werewolf 16-Sep-21 03:10 PM

If there's a knowledge wolf I'll kill you

Wisp 16-Sep-21 10:04 PM

@Participant you may read a players aura

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 06:54 AM

@Host check Wyatt aka Baker

White Werewolf

@Host check Wyatt aka Baker

Devil 17-Sep-21 08:32 AM

ya sure?

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 08:34 AM

Yes @Devil

Devil 17-Sep-21 08:35 AM

Wyatt aka Baker is NOT a threat

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 08:38 AM

@Devil what? Ho?

We didn't kill them?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 17-Sep-21 08:38 AM

The Hags | Additional Information The Hags win if they're alive at the end of the game, as long as the winning team didn't wrong them. At the start of the game, the Hags can win with any team, but if a team wrongs the Hags, the Hags can no longer win with them. The Hags do not know each other, but always have the same win condition and alignment. If the Hags are wronged it is announced which team has wronged the Hags, even if no Hags are left. If all remaining teams have wronged the Hags, all remaining Hags turn into bitter hags. If a Hag is attacked, killed, has their role changed, or acted upon by any role the team of the player responsible has wronged the Hags. If a Hag is lynched the team(s) which had the most votes on the lynched Hag has wronged the Hags. If a Hag is lynched by unusual means, the team of the player responsible has wronged the Hags. If a solo power role applies an effect to a Hag, they have wronged the Hags. Unaligned players cannot wrong the hags. Each Hag can use one specific spell. Hags may only use their spell once, however every time a Hag is wronged they gain an additional use for their spell. Hags are allowed to wait until their spell has several uses and then use it more than once in one night. Even when the Hags win condition is changed, they are still considered Unaligned (unless they turn into Bitter Hags). Use $i uah for a list of all hags.

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 08:39 AM

...this has changed

Great

Wow

Flute Player 17-Sep-21 01:18 PM

apparently just for this game

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 01:38 PM

wdym

-_-

how can it change for one game

Flute Player 17-Sep-21 05:12 PM

my opinion on that is that all changes like that should be announced, but apparently I'm the only one

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 05:52 PM

Well I agree with you ofc, but I understand their point too This is part of why I dislike closed role lists, you can't go through all roles before the game

Vampire 17-Sep-21 06:09 PM

Announcing it would reveal Hag being in the game beforehand, something we'd rather not do

Devil 17-Sep-21 06:47 PM

i believe it was a personal oversight on my behalf that we did not announce some roles may have had minor changes made

(in which case we should have, of course, made temporary changes to other roles to avoid meta :) )

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 07:10 PM

Yes, that would be preferable

Nonetheless, now Wyatt will miss out on the win, and I'm not sure he'd appreciate it

Devil

(in which case we should have, of course, made temporary changes to other roles to avoid meta :) )

Vampire 17-Sep-21 07:37 PM

we've done that kinda stuff before but i wouldn't make unneccesary changes to roles that dont need to be changed, its confusing. I'd rather leave it and let people figure it out

I personally think "We've kept the changes secret to avoid spoiling the role before the game started" is an acceptable reason

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:00 PM

well, how about a general warning that some roles may have been changed?

in fact... you are relying on people not noticing the changes, am I right?

how is that acceptable?

after all, if I had noticed the change, it'd have been a pretty damn strong reason to believe wyatt

which, ofc, is a meta

so you'd be indirectly encouraging meta with this

Devil

(in which case we should have, of course, made temporary changes to other roles to avoid meta :) )

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:03 PM

this is the best course of action IMHO

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:03 PM

You're going quite far

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:03 PM

but the logic is sound

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:04 PM

We're not relying on people not to notice the changes

The changes are subtle and specific to the game

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:05 PM

I'd rather leave it and let people figure it out

this implies you either want people to active search and figure it out, or you don't want people to find out roles have been changed at all the latter is unfair the former gives a strong meta

(the latter is unfair as it means we can't be sure the roles do what we think they do unless we go through them - and going through all roles is absurd) (edited)

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

I don't think it's unfair, it's quite normal for people to look through the possible roles once they see the role list

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

except there's no role lsit (edited)

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

I said possible roles

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

do you expect us to go through every single role in all those categories?

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

You get a role list

A lot of people go through every possible role

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:06 PM

i dunno about you, but that'd be quite annoying for me

Vampire

A lot of people go through every possible role

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:07 PM

before every single game? really?

who?

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:07 PM

No, only after I see the role list

If it's partial

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:07 PM

which only functions if it's not partial

i'm fine with these changes on a public role list, mind you

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:07 PM

Okay I lost you somewhere, we're going different ways here

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:07 PM

only on partial/closed ones i think it's wrong

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

On a public role list, the changes would have been announced

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

because on partial role lists, the number of roles would be huge

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

On partial, the goal is to keep the list secret, and so we don't announce changes

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

and without prior announcement, should we really expect changes every game?

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

With this feedback, we probably will find a way to announce changes

Devil 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

i def get both sides here but log, do remember this role has only been used once

Devil

(in which case we should have, of course, made temporary changes to other roles to avoid meta :) )

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:08 PM

this gets my vote, for the record

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:09 PM

Plus, this has been done before, with more changes, and nobody has complained, so I thought it would be fine to do this again

Positive or no feedback means to me that it is acceptable to do again

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:09 PM

it's not something i'm particularly angry about, just that it's not very well justified IMO

Devil 17-Sep-21 10:09 PM

so it isn't entirely unreasonable to expect changes to the role, and quite reasonable to check to make sure you understand the role

Vampire

Plus, this has been done before, with more changes, and nobody has complained, so I thought it would be fine to do this again

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:10 PM

hmm idr this happening before without announcing some roles have changed, but i might have forgotten

idk maybe i'm the only one who doesn't like this

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:10 PM

I understand your problem, but the reason we didn't do this was because this is a partial list and we want to keep it secret, and it's been done before and nobody had a problem with it, so I thought this time, nobody would care much about it either

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:10 PM

understandable ofc

White Werewolf

hmm idr this happening before without announcing some roles have changed, but i might have forgotten

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:10 PM

V2G4

FC was checked as threat but wasn't announced

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:11 PM

oh

Vampire 17-Sep-21 10:11 PM

Yes, that was what I was talking about

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:11 PM

@Participant you may read someones aura

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:11 PM

oh right

huh

what would even be the point now

Werewolves Bot C BOT 17-Sep-21 10:12 PM

Alive Players | Total: 4

- Captain Luffy (@Medium)

- Wyatt (@Baker)

- Sharl Eclair (@Warlock)

- Lord of Galaxy (@White Werewolf) (edited)

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:12 PM

i've checked everyone here

eh whatever

check luffy again ig

@Wisp

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:13 PM

@Medium is Not a Threat

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:13 PM

that completes the formality (edited)

i think we can ff?

if luffy or sharl wolf we already lost

wyatt is ofc now a bitter hag, and can kill luffy if he wants, but it won't make the slightest difference as he has a single kill and then is outnumbered 2-1

or hmm

if sharl/luffy are wolf

then wyatt kill matters

hmm

if luffy is wolf and wyatt kills anyone escept luffy, luffy wins by default

oh wait

i forgot

if sharl/luffy are wolf

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:17 PM

if there was still a wolf alive and a hag was in the game (Not saying there is) the hag wouldn't be bitter yet as a wolf remains

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:17 PM

wyatt can't be bitter hag

yea

is it announced when hag turns?

to bitter

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:17 PM

oh wait I'm dumb hag is confirmed by the wrong message

White Werewolf

to bitter

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:18 PM

no I don't think

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:18 PM

yes, we already know for sure wyatt is hag

Wisp

no I don't think

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:18 PM

ah damn

well either way

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:18 PM

There might still not be a hag

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:18 PM

the course of action now is 100% predictable

so please end the game?

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:19 PM

if wyatt was bitter or a wolf was alive we would need to see who died when for ratings still

Wisp

There might still not be a hag

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:19 PM

almost impossible as the announcement happened with my action

Wisp

if wyatt was bitter or a wolf was alive we would need to see who died when for ratings still

White Werewolf 17-Sep-21 10:19 PM

oh

right

‍♂️

i forget

well it makes little difference anyways right?

i wonder who wyatt despises most here... prolly me, seeing i made him lose (edited)

oh well

ig we'll know tmrw

Wisp 17-Sep-21 10:21 PM

what's your guess to the list btw @White Werewolf, I won't confirm just interested

White Werewolf 18-Sep-21 07:17 AM

This is scary

Honestly I'm not sure rn

I can't tell what the wolves were

Well

If I didn't go wrong with trusting sharl

Then there were just two plain wolves, a sab wolf, an AT, a Huntress, 3 citizens, a runner (?) and a prophetic hag

Of these only the sab wolf, AT and prophetic hag are confirmed

But most likely this list is fine