VIP Wolves Revamped - dead

Werewolves Bot C BOT 20-May-21 03:09 PM

Players | Total: 17

- @Retired Fleet Commander (Aura Teller); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Owner of the Milky Way (Wolf); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Commander of the 7th Fleet (Psychic Wolf); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Void Patrol Representative (Journalist); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

️ - @The Last Real Human (Hooker); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0 ▪️ - @Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion (Trickster); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: -1,1,0

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- @Goddess of Venus (Wolf); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Loy, Conquerer of the Moon (Fletcher); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Child of the Stars (Coroner); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @The Cute Robot Servant (Evil Scientist); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0 (edited)

- @Mojo of Planet Jojo (Scared Wolf); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Heir to the Milky Way (Priest); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @The First AI (Huntress); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Captain of the Void Patrol (Assistant); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Descendant of the Dinosaurs (Fortune Apprentice); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Lizard Representative (Immune Survivor); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0

- @Outerspace Officer (Sneaking Wolf); Alive:

; CCs: 0; Votes: 1,1,0 (edited)

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:09 PM

Werewolves - 5 • WI x1 • WM x4 Solo - 1 • SK x1

wolves being big brain already

wm

unless we use packless wolf which we would never (edited)

@Bob from Nasa™ them wolves are giga brain

5 wolves in rl. 5 wolves in pack and the WI already claimed

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 03:14 PM

how long before they find out?

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:14 PM

idk

but thats just some top moment from the start

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 03:15 PM

yeah but they might think that they have a non-pack wolf

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:15 PM

psychic is ti

Werewolves Bot C BOT 20-May-21 03:15 PM

Werewolf Miscellaneous Alpha Wolf Bloody Butcher Hellhound Scared Wolf Sneaking Wolf Wolf Wolf's Cub Knowledge Wolf Packless Wolf

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:15 PM

there is no non pack wm

that is reasonable

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 03:15 PM

packless could technically be in there, but no

so they have nothing to worry about, but it's good that they're at least being cautious

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:15 PM

the psychic even claimed

we arent that evil giving someone packless

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 03:16 PM

I'm betting they are trying out the new reaper

?????????

reaper is SP, not SK

Party Planet 20-May-21 03:17 PM

them wolves are the biggest brains

Werewolves Bot C BOT 20-May-21 04:24 PM

Poll #pal

- Yes

- No

Results for Poll #pal: Nobody voted...

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:25 PM

$poll new dead just shows the vote count, not who voted what. $poll new dead_list shows who voted what

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:35 PM

and we use the first one right?

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Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:35 PM

Pinned a message.

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:35 PM

yes

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Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:35 PM

Pinned a message.

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:57 PM

i haven't heard much/anything from a bunch of people yet

plz no inactives

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:58 PM

d0 so hopefully they come on quickly

i like this one, proud of it

science bois

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:58 PM

science bois

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:58 PM

i want to see what kruthers will do

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:59 PM

yeah

same

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 04:59 PM

was es even used before this one on vip/main?

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 04:59 PM

i cant remember the last time it was used

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:00 PM

oof

well we will see what happens now

hope he wont get killed n1

would be sad

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:00 PM

never used

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:00 PM

o o f

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:00 PM

oh wait

huh

yeah

never used

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:01 PM

once on mini i think

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:01 PM

idk

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:01 PM

was renamed as corona or something

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:01 PM

mightve been

this is the first game for both es and is

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:02 PM

yea

Bob from Nasa™ once on mini i think

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:02 PM

mightve been only the theme

corona spreader, made by stein

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:02 PM

i get why jay doesn't let people know they're is but it does confirm the solo (edited)

ts just goes straight to "it's devil"

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:03 PM

DEVIl

and wolves WWW

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:03 PM

yeah lmao

ts even sees wolves dont have www

Werewolves Bot C BOT 20-May-21 05:03 PM

Solo Killing Demon (Hell Team) Devil (Hell Team) Pyromancer (Pyro Team) Gray Werewolf White Werewolf Archangel (Heaven Team) Evil Scientist (Disease Team) Wisp (Pyro Team)

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:03 PM

the pyro argument is understandable

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:03 PM

i mean, who would think that es is used

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:03 PM

and www too

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:03 PM

without jay saying their role

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:03 PM

so all it could be is devil and es

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:04 PM

and devil is in more peoples mind

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:04 PM

at some point someone is gonna get the disease notif

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:04 PM

yep

will take a while tho

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:04 PM

Role issues - group roles dont always have personal private channels (relevant for ES) - fletcher targeting, immediate or end day? (solution: end day) - fletcher-customer targeting, clarify rules (solution: standard targeting rules) - survivor cant abstain (clarify it) - Change packless wolf to mention cursed civilian old instead of the newer one - ES infecting not-home hooker? (solution: yes, hooker will be infected) (edited)

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Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:04 PM

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Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:05 PM

the first one, what?

ooooh

in that way

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:05 PM

bakers dont have a seperate baker channel

cult members dont have a cm channel

etc

wolves do

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:06 PM

make a temp channel

ig

for now

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 05:06 PM

we dont have any of those roles ingame

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 05:06 PM

yea

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 09:25 PM

Ts using his and jay's nicknames from last game is definitely confusing seeing this game's solo

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 10:20 PM

amazing wolves want to atack hooker

i think you just made a new channel for the preservation room?

might mess up the bot count and give an error when there are 49 cc's and someone makes a 50th one

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 10:24 PM

we'll see

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 10:25 PM

we can always put in in public or secret channel section

ts told wolves he is hooker

oof

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 10:47 PM

lmao

they're still attacking him

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 10:47 PM

yea

they think he is bluffing

Earth-Preservation President 20-May-21 10:48 PM

he couldve been (edited)

hooker could be an easy lie

Bob from Nasa™ 20-May-21 10:49 PM

fair

Earth-Preservation President Role issues - group roles dont always have personal private channels (relevant for ES) - fletcher targeting, immediate or end day? (solution: end day) - fletcher-customer targeting, clarify rules (solution: standard targeting rules) - survivor cant abstain (clarify it) - Change packless wolf to mention cursed civilian old instead of the newer one - ES infecting not-home hooker? (solution: yes, hooker will be infected) (edited)

Bob from Nasa™ 21-May-21 12:40 PM

Change packless wolf to mention cursed civilian old instead of the neeer one

Newer

Party Planet 21-May-21 12:48 PM

hi @Loy, Conquerer of the Moon

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 21-May-21 12:55 PM

Woo, first dead

Didn't even get a chance to post in character yet

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 01:50 PM

wow

the moment sharl gets that aggressive, you know he's on the opposite side

he's siding with bart, obviously, and because he gets so aggressive about it, both him and bart are in danger

sharl stop getting all caps-locky, it shows you feel threatened

it does no good

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:05 PM

i feel bad for bart

a wolfteam that distrusts because they're stupid enough to think there's a www

and also he's claiming cit, a logical claim but cit has come to be the least trusted claim

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 02:06 PM

Don't they know that there are only five in #wolfpack?

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:06 PM

yeah

the only non-pack wolf possible is packless wolf

which just doesnt happen

i hate how wolves are being so ignorant to the role list

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 02:08 PM

I'd understand the concern if the 1x WI was not in the pack.

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:10 PM

yes but the wi claimed

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:11 PM

yeah

they have 0 reason to distrust eachother

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:11 PM

the only way someone can be www is prophet

but prophet is safe wi

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:11 PM

yeah but would he tell wolves Ts is hooker if he's www?

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:11 PM

no which is why there is no chance of a www

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:11 PM

exactly

they're being paranoid assholes rn (edited)

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:12 PM

paranoid and killing themselves

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:12 PM

#so_uhm

oh my god

he mightve just fucked it

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:13 PM

probs

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:13 PM

ts is one of those people who would go "pfft let's lynch you then"

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:13 PM

yeah

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:13 PM

thing is, he cant admit that bart confirmed ES, because he cant use his cowardly strat of just adding people to a cc

i really cant stand it when people add others to ccs as "proof"

i get it, it's a mechanic but it's honestly just annoying as hell

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:14 PM

https://discord.com/channels/668821323325243403/844922977245855795/845273046645997608 nice mat thinking of that what i thought when we added hooker

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:14 PM

lmao

ts noticed bart claimed ES

lets see what he does

Party Planet 21-May-21 02:22 PM

The Last Real Human — Today at 14:21 Yeah Wants to make a deal Don't think we should I can't write much rn Lynch him

guess bart is gone (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 02:22 PM

yup

he tried at least

but ts doesnt really do that kinda stuff

at least he's kinda protecting the real ES?

kruthers inactivity is kinda helping him, his silence is keeping him in the shadows

just like you last game

and once kruthers gets past his 2nd potion, he'll probably be fine

people will still die from the disease lol

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 07:17 PM

oh my god

they believe the ES claim AHAHAHHA

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 09:21 PM

I was already suspecting him, but that's definitely accurate info from Bart

Are you sure?

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 09:22 PM

LMAOO

barts just names some rando

i love that

if LoG gets to know he's infected, it'll create chaos

"we quarantaine him" i love the wording

ohhh

priest doesn't really have any risk in visiting people

Party Planet 21-May-21 09:33 PM

what if he hits scared wolf

then its different

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 09:38 PM

well that only infects scared wolf

Party Planet 21-May-21 09:38 PM

but what if the scared wolf is infected

like in this case

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 09:39 PM

actually

yes

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 10:01 PM

Ts is the only good german change my mind

Wow.

Party Planet 21-May-21 10:05 PM

i mean you are danish-german

ethan sees you more as a danish person

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 10:05 PM

I guess.

I like Germany more, though. But I guess Danish is still better than British or American.

Werewolves Bot C BOT 21-May-21 10:08 PM

Assistant | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Assistant may select a player to redirect one wolf action to. The action cannot be an attack. Details The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. When the Assistant is affected by a wolf power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolves being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

Party Planet 21-May-21 10:08 PM

hi bart

Mr. Turtle 21-May-21 10:10 PM

Very well played, you genuinely have town confused with your lies.

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 10:11 PM

definitely

causing chaos before death

Outerspace Officer 21-May-21 10:18 PM

kruthers really not be infecting the hooker

Earth-Preservation President 21-May-21 10:18 PM

yeah lol

Party Planet 21-May-21 10:20 PM

he doesnt want his stds to spread yet

Outerspace Officer 21-May-21 10:25 PM

shame ;-;

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 01:53 AM

i still dont completely understand why ts is trusted lol

he's a hooker claim

he works for town a lot but he could just as well be bad

theres honestly still a chance TP wouldnt cc

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 01:58 AM

noone counterclaimed

we shouldve, but I had already dug my heels to deep in citizen and the others didnt wanna risk it

Btw I am going to be very amused if LoG actually dies cuz I told Ts void was wolf

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 02:01 AM

i hope so

it'll confirm void as not wolf

but it'd be hilarious

they're sussing void and leila but both are town

Party Planet 22-May-21 09:46 AM

Town sacrificing priest pog

And trickster will die

So 2 townies down

Werewolves Bot C BOT 22-May-21 10:01 AM

Assistant | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Assistant may select a player to redirect one wolf action to. The action cannot be an attack. Details The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. When the Assistant is affected by a wolf power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolves being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 11:11 AM

Priest double died

Party Planet 22-May-21 11:11 AM

ye

10 - 5 - 1 - 1 -> 7 - 4 - 1 - 1

town slowly losing numbers

https://discord.com/channels/668821323325243403/845025452204490762/845589662486757386 RIP

guess town really wants to yeeet

6-4-1-1

a wolf will die no matter what

so lets hope ts sleeps with mojo so he can spread them stds

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:07 PM

wolves just messed it up completely

i am done now i gotta go rn

@Bob from Nasa™ gl for now. i'll try and be back in an hour

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 12:08 PM

oki

i love how they still think bart was es

@Outerspace Officer log died of wolves and watering town like you said yesterday

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:12 PM

Kinda sad they the wolves got him aswell, but i still count it as my kill

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 12:12 PM

yep

but after this phase they will know you lied

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 12:14 PM

damn

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 12:15 PM

i mean, you didnt tell them that you only targetted log right?

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:20 PM

ethan

is an idiot

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:21 PM

Wolves aswell

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 12:21 PM

wolves shouldve stuck with ethan

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:22 PM

why the fuck did i listen to him

well, i hope kruthers wins

wolves and town don't deserve a win

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 12:22 PM

It’s funny how ts and co are like what void is town??

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:23 PM

WHY COULDN'T HE HAVE AT LEAST GIVEN MORE INFO OUT TO ME

No, just "trust me"

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 12:23 PM

Death of town every time

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:24 PM

i told him

WHY WOULD BART JUST GIVE UP WHO HE INFECTED (edited)

but no

why listen to me, right?

never again

am i trusting anyone else to lead town

also, why exactly did the wolves attack me?

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:33 PM

Idk

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:33 PM

another meta

i'm getting used to this

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:34 PM

Read through wolf chat

They were on ethan up until 1-2 hours before phase switch

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:34 PM

but that doesn't annoy me near as much as ethan not even telling me anything and his mistake getting me killed

WHY DOES TOWN ALWAYS ACT LIKE THIS

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:35 PM

you need me on your team

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:35 PM

Other than a few of us (steil used to do this iirc), everyone else just protects every bit of information

Party Planet you need me on your team

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:35 PM

i lost you the last time i had you

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:36 PM

I mean it wasnt our fault

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:36 PM

yea

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:36 PM

I was meta infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:36 PM

as usual

ok so as far as i can tell, prophet suggested me as potential kill coz:

He's been a bit quiet and last game he wasn't

my goodness

bart actually told them

that void

CLAIMED WOLF TO HIM

AND THEY FUCKING BELIEVED IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

this is beyond hopeless

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:40 PM

Ngl, i did put up a good act

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:40 PM

how did none of them realise you could be a wolf trying to confuse them? HOW?

i'm gonna kill ethan

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:41 PM

He would have died with you

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:41 PM

I pretended not to know how the point system worked for ES so they would have to convince me that it would be beneficial for me to help them

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:41 PM

If it wasnt for wolves small braining

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:42 PM

yea the wolves hardly had any thought behind their decision either

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:42 PM

Well tbh, I didn't actually know how the scoring system worked

But still

Yeah no

I dont understand why wolves attacked you

They should've stuck with ethan

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:43 PM

also, um, why did ts sleep with void?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 22-May-21 12:43 PM

Hooker | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Hooker sleeps with another player. They will not be killed by attacks on them, but will be affected by those taking place at their target’s house. Details Since the Hooker is at the other player’s house and not at home, any attacks targeting the Hooker in the night will fail; however, if the person they’re sleeping over at is being attacked, then they both are attacked. Choosing a player to sleep with is an immediate ability. From that point on, they will stay with that player for the rest of the night. The Hooker may also choose not to sleep with anybody.

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:43 PM

He didnt

But I didnt see that he changed

Like

His chat was clogged

And log only got edited after

I am there like bruh tf

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:44 PM

ahhhh

yea sleep with astra is big brain move

brain that wolves obviously lack

they didn't even CC TP?

like wow

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:45 PM

I mean es is also a bit small brain not infecting ts

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:45 PM

sure it's risky, but ugh what these guys are doing (edited)

Party Planet I mean es is also a bit small brain not infecting ts

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:45 PM

wait, he can infect ts?

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:45 PM

Yeah kruthers is being smallest brain of all rn

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:45 PM

AND HE DIDN'T?

WHAT THE FUCK IS EVERYONE DOING

Bart, you're literally the only competent player in this game

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:46 PM

Well another host said es can infect ts

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 12:46 PM

❤️

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:47 PM

HOW CAN HE NOT INFECT TS?

HOW

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:47 PM

Ngl I was happy that I managed to do assistant correctly

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:47 PM

wefuobcfocbj'ef

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:47 PM

As I had no clue how it works at all

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:48 PM

luckily for the hosts the ES is mostly doing nothing

also guys

if mojo was infected N1

then he should be informed of the infection now (D2)

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:49 PM

If you attacked mojo youd have gotten the disease

End of d2

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:49 PM

indeed, but at least he'd have died

‍♂️

OH END

i see

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:49 PM

1 phase warning

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:49 PM

just the one phase

ugh ES is quite hard to figure out actually

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:50 PM

They still think you are infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:50 PM

what happens if they decide to attack ts?

Party Planet They still think you are infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:50 PM

what? AND THEY KILLED ME ANYWAYS?

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:50 PM

Wolves or es?

Party Planet Wolves or es?

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:50 PM

say mojo attacks ts

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:50 PM

That way not

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:51 PM

isn't hooker sleep also immediate?

as well as infection

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:51 PM

Ts is there like: time to use delay

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:51 PM

so if es were to attempt to infect ts, he would be able to success if and only if he did it before ts slept with someone

which means ts delaying is quite stupid

ok we need to work a bit on hooker

what, precisely, does it do

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:53 PM

Ask ts what he is doing

He makes it hard for us

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:54 PM

if, for example, an FT were infected with the disease, and then checks (visits?) whoever the hooker is sleeping with, does hooker get infected or not

and what if they checked hooker?

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:54 PM

If hooker didnt visit and gets checked infected

If hooker visits a person that got checked by an infected ft infected (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:55 PM

also how does assistant, huntress, ranger etc work with this? anything that chooses targets basically

Party Planet If hooker visits a person that got checked by an infected ft infected (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:56 PM

wait no that wouldn't make sense if the hooker visited after the FT visited, since the disease isn't contagious N0, only N1 so the real question is, would visiting the person the hooker is sleeping with count as visiting the hooker? truth is, ES is a bit broken because we haven't exactly defined what a visit is (edited)

Party Planet 22-May-21 12:57 PM

Maybe ts does but most of us dont and we dont know what he thinks is classified as a visit (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 12:57 PM

...ts didn't make the role either.... i did

and clearly i never thought it through properly

i dunno how i forgot about hooker

as for targetting roles, iirc those didn't count as visits, but ig for consistency they should count as a visit

is there any other role that mentions "visit"s?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:00 PM

Bard maybe?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 22-May-21 01:00 PM

Bard | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics Throughout the game, all abilities used on the Bard, will be narrated to everyone in story time. Details When an immediate ability is used on the Bard, it is immediately narrated. End abilities are narrated at the end of the phase. If the Bard changes roles, abilities are no longer narrated. The narrated info is precise and reveals both the ability (e.g. “attacked”) and the cause (e.g. “Assassin”), however further details are not revealed (e.g. if a tanner disguises the Bard, it is narrated that it happened, however the applied disguise is not revealed). If the Bard is attacked, the attacker’s role is the cause. The Bard is only affected by strong disguises.

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:00 PM

all abilities used on the bard

this is much clearer actually

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:01 PM

How would you answer ts's question

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:01 PM

how would it work with bard?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:01 PM

No

Check hooker

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:01 PM

I saw it I mean, what happens if, say, psychic wolf checked assistant, who redirected it to bard? would that trigger bard or not?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:02 PM

I would say it triggerd on both

As assistant was the target

Both are being visited by that infected

I would guess

Otherwise only assistant

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:03 PM

also, when assistant chooses bard as target, does that trigger bard?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:03 PM

That would trigger I guess

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:03 PM

hmm

then i'd say we should have the exact same for ES

for consistency

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:03 PM

So both?

Or just the assostant

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:03 PM

wait, what all actions does assistant affect?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:04 PM

All wolf actions that arent kill

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:04 PM

any non-kill wolf action

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:04 PM

So invest (edited)

Sabotage

Disguise

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:04 PM

there aren't a lot of wolf actions right?

hmm

since it redirects everything

i'd say only bard is infected

(=assistant target)

since the assistant should never be affected by the wolf action at all

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:05 PM

Okay

So only the target gets infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:05 PM

yea

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:05 PM

K

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:05 PM

but on the other hand, if the assistant were to target someone who's infected

then the assistant also gets infected

since it counts as a visit for the bard, it should count as a visit for infected as well

@Party Planet ^

same for huntress etc

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:09 PM

That I agree with (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:09 PM

alright

ig that sorts out ES

although wait hooker is still a bit icky

hooker only escapes from attacks right?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:11 PM

Yes

And infection isnt an attack

So it doesnt escape infection

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:12 PM

yep

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:13 PM

Using Id to check a message....

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:13 PM

Said no

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:13 PM

but also, if someone were to infect the person the hooker is sleeping with, the hooker isn't affected (that night at least - hooker would get infected if they decide to sleep with an already contagious person ofc)

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:13 PM

Seems really cheaty

Yea saw

Bob from Nasa™ Using Id to check a message....

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:13 PM

what can even be done with the ID

i dunno what all info the ID actually contains, besides a timestamp

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:13 PM

He tried to get times

When we respond

Definite no

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:14 PM

ah

definitely no

it's hard to fake a discord message ID

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:14 PM

Yeah and I dont trust ts with that

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:15 PM

lol

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:15 PM

Didn’t we kinda have the same problem when nk used custom emojis for confirmation messages?

And people were using that

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:15 PM

oof

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:16 PM

Oof wolves getting picked out 1 by 1

Mat and prophet are gone

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:16 PM

Sad

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:17 PM

Then said 2/3of the 3 remaining evils are evil

Lmao

Yes or no, player that gets journal gets infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:19 PM

lol

Party Planet Yes or no, player that gets journal gets infected

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:19 PM

no idts, the journalist is dead

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:20 PM

Same

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:20 PM

same for coroner, coroner shouldn't get infected

tbh the IS+Hooker is a bit of a bug that ts is doubtless gonna exploit, but wolves are unfortunately too stupid to realise

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:23 PM

Ngl I thought we added a limitation on hooker that they couldn’t visit the same person twice in a row

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:23 PM

We didn't, did we?

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:23 PM

But I think that’s from another role

Idk

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:23 PM

idr it being done

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:23 PM

I don’t know anymore

Might’ve been guardian?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:23 PM

Sabotage wolf got the limitation

Nothing else iirc

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:24 PM

ah yes

pack tanner also

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:24 PM

Ah

Maybe hooker would also make sense to avoid these situations?

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:24 PM

you know, if kruthers had actually infected me, he might've done some real damage

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:24 PM

Would be good

Yeah

Bob from Nasa™ Maybe hooker would also make sense to avoid these situations?

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:25 PM

yea

Original message was deleted.

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 01:25 PM

Pinned a message.

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:25 PM

At this point my brain just gets fried by ts (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:27 PM

btw

does huntress/fletcher customer attack count as end night, or post end night?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:34 PM

Immediate

So EoN

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 01:35 PM

ah so hooker won't die right?

Party Planet 22-May-21 01:48 PM

okay first question is

not question

is huntress post EoN

if so

then FC has the same prinicpal

lets say it like that

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 02:06 PM

but is huntress EoN, or post EoN?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 22-May-21 02:07 PM

Huntress | Townsfolk Killing Basics The Huntress may select a player to attack with their dying breath. Details The Huntress may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Huntress wants. When the Huntress dies in any way other than by directly being lynched, their target will be attacked by them. The other player is attacked immediately and if it succeeds, the Huntress’s role is revealed to all. If the Huntress did not target a living player, the Huntress’s role isn’t revealed.

Party Planet 22-May-21 02:08 PM

ask vera/marten on this one i am brain dead after today

Outerspace Officer 22-May-21 02:08 PM

Ts is being a bit wierd in #hooker ngl

Party Planet 22-May-21 02:31 PM

kill jay

would kill ts too

and spare my brain

https://discord.com/channels/668821323325243403/844922977245855795/845640549842550784 more like a fail in the end

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:16 PM

god i love hosting but this game makes me never wanna host again

constantly get yelled at if i even make the tiniest mistake

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:18 PM

who yelled at you?

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:19 PM

its mostly ts

i know i made a mistake but hes constantly going on about it

going on about "rule changes" and "wow if youre changing rules i constantly have to ask because im not sure"

like shut up, im trying my fucking best

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:20 PM

ouch

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:20 PM

i make mistakes

dont rub it in

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:21 PM

it's not like these complex interactions were something anyone could've predicted

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:21 PM

its literally making fun but he just waves it off as "no im just asking questions"

this is honestly painful to host

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:22 PM

they're annoyed at you for making mistakes, and then they get me killed, how ironic

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:22 PM

EXACTLY

LMAO (edited)

and they start asking us if we did it right

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:23 PM

lol

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:23 PM

were testing out roles, we got a lot of stuff to keep in mind, sorry if we make mistakes

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:23 PM

half these interactions nobody thought of until they happened

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 04:23 PM

jep...

always

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:25 PM

"role changes" shut up, i didnt make fun of him for that stupid as hell clairvoyant fox decision like he's doing for my logical fletcher customer decision

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:26 PM

lolol

his sarcasm is a bit annoying ngl i much prefer if you just say up front if you have an issue

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 04:27 PM

"oh yeah maybe you shouldnt mention anything except a role! like you did for clairvoyant fox. if we're not naming anything"

yes i was salty but i didnt wanna sub out because i was being dramatic

i understood that hosts have the final decision and apologized

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:29 PM

yea

Party Planet 22-May-21 04:37 PM

ngl i think i might not host the next 1 or 2 games

the last 2 games were enough for me

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 04:45 PM

depending on when that is, i might be able to host a game should be free enough from ~June 15

Party Planet 22-May-21 04:47 PM

i also meant on main (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 22-May-21 05:16 PM

oh

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 07:29 PM

Wtf

Sad

Werewolves Bot C BOT 22-May-21 07:29 PM

wtf What The Frickety fruck, boi, the fuck

Party Planet 22-May-21 10:02 PM

@Earth-Preservation President should i do the kill and reporter

Earth-Preservation President 22-May-21 10:02 PM

if you can add reporter thatd be nice

Party Planet 22-May-21 10:02 PM

done

Commander of the 7th Fleet 22-May-21 10:10 PM

Rip me

I tried fam

Commander of the 7th Fleet 22-May-21 10:37 PM

Looking at the elephant chat, why on earth did they just trust Dennis over me

The chat is like 4 lines long

That's whack

Like what

Bob from Nasa™ 22-May-21 11:02 PM

Wolves... just kill jay and ts with it

Mr. Turtle 23-May-21 12:00 AM

Wow, so much Eurovision talk in #out_of_character and I can't join.

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:02 AM

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 07:14 AM

Wolves are attacking ts?

Wow

New level of hopeless

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 09:21 AM

Surely not

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 11:03 AM

This game was hopeless

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:40 AM

hooker doesnt get infected right?

ngl after eurovision I forgot about this game

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:43 AM

i wish i could forget about this game

apparently we're doing everything wrong

and why isnt kruthers infecting anyone???

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:45 AM

Why are wolves attacking ts

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:46 AM

LMAO WHAT

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:49 AM

These scums are really dreadful (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:50 AM

this is awful

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 11:50 AM

mojo might change?

they are the only one voting atm

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:50 AM

town against scums but scums are just working against themself

10 minutes left

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:50 AM

I highly doubt mojo will change

Will get on pc 5 mins before phase change

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:51 AM

oki

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:52 AM

Ngl not thinking of this game made me happy for the morning

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:52 AM

yeah i get that

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 11:52 AM

mojo dies tonight right from disease?

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:53 AM

YES

Sorry

Caps was on

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 11:53 AM

oop

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:53 AM

yes

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:53 AM

Aight no evil gets good scores

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 11:53 AM

well then they know that es is real and not jay pulling an amzing trick

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:53 AM

At best prophet

And bart

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 11:53 AM

yea

Party Planet 23-May-21 11:54 AM

The rest nearing the low tier categories

Started pc

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:00 PM

Man I hate being dead

OHHH CORONOR

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:05 PM

you guys were bad

and es dies today

nice

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:07 PM

I literally had no idea why Sharl said for us to go for Ts

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:07 PM

then dont listen to him?

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:07 PM

I didn’t even come back until a couple of minutes ago, so it’s not like I had a chance to change it beforehand

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:07 PM

he also was the 1st person to say there might be www

eventhough there was no possible way

and evil scientist just said i wont infect

like?

Bro ts said he is hooker

just infect him

and done

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:08 PM

But

Doesn’t going for Ts when he isn’t home NOT infect him?

Therefore wasting a vial

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:09 PM

ts always visited EoN

so he was always at home until the last min

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:10 PM

OH WAIT ITS IMMEDIATE

Werewolves Bot C BOT 23-May-21 12:10 PM

Hooker | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Hooker sleeps with another player. They will not be killed by attacks on them, but will be affected by those taking place at their target’s house. Details Since the Hooker is at the other player’s house and not at home, any attacks targeting the Hooker in the night will fail; however, if the person they’re sleeping over at is being attacked, then they both are attacked. Choosing a player to sleep with is an immediate ability. From that point on, they will stay with that player for the rest of the night. The Hooker may also choose not to sleep with anybody.

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:10 PM

Choosing a player to sleep with is an immediate ability. From that point on, they will stay with that player for the rest of the night. The Hooker may also choose not to sleep with anybody.

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:10 PM

No I mean

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:10 PM

and infecting is immediate yes

Earth-Preservation President i wish i could forget about this game

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:11 PM

welcome to the club

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:11 PM

also why did you switch to log

that made no sense

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:11 PM

meta clearly

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:11 PM

if you stuck with ethan

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:11 PM

you peeps had no reason to kill me

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:11 PM

youd be in a much better situation

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:11 PM

you did it anyways as a meta

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:11 PM

I have no bloody idea what was going on

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:12 PM

this game man

i have yet to see any competent play from the wolves since bart's ES claim

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:12 PM

log got killed by stupidity from town

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:12 PM

yea

complete idiocy

i should never have trusted them to come up with a good plan

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:13 PM

okay ts is just taking the piss now

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:14 PM

luckily for town kruthers wasted his first vial on a wolf that didn't manage to infect anyone, and doesn't even want to use the other vial until he inevitably gets caught

and wolves were just as incompetent as the town

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:14 PM

consider this ts: wolves have a combined iq of -20 this game

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:14 PM

lol

clearly

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:14 PM

We literally do though

Heir to the Milky Way luckily for town kruthers wasted his first vial on a wolf that didn't manage to infect anyone, and doesn't even want to use the other vial until he inevitably gets caught

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:14 PM

and then he cant even ue it as he will die today

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:15 PM

LMAO

i swear (edited)

this game

was a game of pure incompetence

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:15 PM

whyyy did he not use a vial???

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:15 PM

idk

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:15 PM

where the town's incompetence was the least harmful to their team

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:15 PM

I’m confused why Sharl thought it was only me and him alive???

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:15 PM

i haven't seen a worse game in like the last 10+ games

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:15 PM

confused why sharl told you to kill ts

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:16 PM

probably cuz mat wasnt really active

also yes that

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:16 PM

I am very confused about that as wel

Like

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:16 PM

he was known hooker

wdym attack ts

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:16 PM

If I had came back earlier, I would’ve changed the attack

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:16 PM

sharl told you to kill me, you did it sharl told you to kill ts, you did it WHY IS EVERYONE JUST FOLLOWING SHARL?

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:17 PM

I didn’t even choose to attack you, and I said “we should keep LoG alive because they’re in trusted chat”

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:17 PM

okay now comes the question

is ts infected

after mojo attempted the attack

i say no

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:17 PM

No

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:17 PM

no

he's not infected

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:17 PM

Wolf attack is end night

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:17 PM

yes

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:17 PM

Not immediate

VS the hooker ability

Being immediate

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:17 PM

hooker avoids the attack, this much is very clear

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:18 PM

Hooker avoids everything

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:18 PM

if hooker avoids attack, they must avoid infection since the attack causes the infection

Mojo of Planet Jojo Hooker avoids everything

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:18 PM

no, the hooker wouldn't avoid infection if they were visited by anyone else

only attacks

since if you were to, say, check hooker with ft, then you get hooker, not "blank" or something

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:19 PM

Hmmmm

Still gonna say no to infection

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:19 PM

only attacks are avoided by hooker, which means hooker only avoids infection from attacks

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:19 PM

which they did

if kruthers decided to disease him that night he would have been infected

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:20 PM

Yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:20 PM

yes

idk what kruthers was doing this game

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:21 PM

no one does

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:21 PM

idt he actually paid any attention to this game

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:21 PM

i dont even think he does

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:21 PM

I don’t know what anyone is doing honestly

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:21 PM

yeah

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:21 PM

Myself included

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:21 PM

only 98 messages from him?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:21 PM

hmm

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:22 PM

it's been how many phases?

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:22 PM

Thats inactive rn? Idk

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:22 PM

also that ts discussion about FC

Party Planet These scums are really dreadful (edited)

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:22 PM

I tried but for some reason they trusted Dennis over me

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:22 PM

6 phases no? kruthers is borderline inactive

this game was just pathetic

ethan is the worst town lead i've ever seen

Commander of the 7th Fleet I tried but for some reason they trusted Dennis over me

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:23 PM

well you got redirected by luffy

so

you were seen more wolfy than dennis

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:23 PM

Surely we can just scrap this game

Heir to the Milky Way you peeps had no reason to kill me

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:23 PM

We killed you on the off chance we would catch a TI or TK because we knew soke TM

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:23 PM

wolves didn't even have a damned strat

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:23 PM

he would have died anyway

Commander of the 7th Fleet We killed you on the off chance we would catch a TI or TK because we knew soke TM

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:23 PM

YOU COULD'VE KILLED LITERALLY ANYONE

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:23 PM

town sent log on a suicide mission

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:24 PM

It's a bit of a stretch for me to believe that out of the 3 random kills in the last 4 games, 2 just happened to pick me

Party Planet you were seen more wolfy than dennis

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:24 PM

Ahhh I didn't know about the redirection

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:24 PM

also first game where dennis didnt get screwed as an invest n1

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:24 PM

:/

Heir to the Milky Way YOU COULD'VE KILLED LITERALLY ANYONE

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:24 PM

It was my idea and I haven't been in the last 4 games

Pure chance

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:24 PM

...

you have been

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:24 PM

You were quieter so I took a guess

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:24 PM

i'm including main games also

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:24 PM

Not here, this is my first game here

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:24 PM

and that's literally meta

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:25 PM

behaviour is something people learn

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:25 PM

Well it worked anyway, I read you right

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:25 PM

so when you dont act as usual you gotta hide somethig

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:25 PM

This game....

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:25 PM

i was only so loud last game because i was executioner and thus was leading the town

i'm usually quiet unless i'm leading town/wolf

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:25 PM

Why are you heated, you're going to win easily ahah

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:26 PM

because it's a bit annoying

and also because you peeps just wasted your kill

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:26 PM

I told you why I picked you so you can avoid it next time

‍♂️

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:26 PM

he wanted a live win

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:26 PM

Yeah I can't comment on that one

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:26 PM

I do have to ask

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:26 PM

there's no fun in a game where everyone is incompetent but town still wins

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:27 PM

Why did wolves think Void was ES?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:27 PM

ask your team

Mojo of Planet Jojo Why did wolves think Void was ES?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:27 PM

Yeah it was sharl again

I trusted her because I had hardly any time left to be alive

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:27 PM

how did both town and wolves decide void was scum lol

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:27 PM

So I went with it

But I should have asked why

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:27 PM

*he

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:27 PM

I thought about it but I risked it

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:27 PM

town -> Void Wolf wolf -> Void Solo

in the end -> Void Town

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:28 PM

I myself should’ve paid more attention and asked more questions, but it’s still confusing

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:28 PM

Probably cause he claimed journalist and he did that like a game ago and he wasn't aha ptsd

Mojo of Planet Jojo I myself should’ve paid more attention and asked more questions, but it’s still confusing

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:28 PM

Yeah super confusing for us idk why

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:28 PM

yep es dead

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:29 PM

Sharl has been saying some weird stuff

Commander of the 7th Fleet Probably cause he claimed journalist and he did that like a game ago and he wasn't aha ptsd

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:29 PM

ah yes that game that was another incompetent wolf team

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:29 PM

ngl i dont trust sharl leading a team

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:29 PM

yea

he messed up that vamp game also

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:29 PM

he can but more often than not it just ends miserably

Heir to the Milky Way ah yes that game that was another incompetent wolf team

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:30 PM

Yeah well I helped lead town and we won so that tracks

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:30 PM

we would've had a chance if he'd just READ the damned undead chat

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:30 PM

Yeah I learnt the hard way to question sharl from now on

Commander of the 7th Fleet Yeah well I helped lead town and we won so that tracks

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:30 PM

you got a really bad deal due to the incompetence of the wolves

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:30 PM

Bad deal when? That game or this one?

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:30 PM

that one

you were reaper no?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

No I was town

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

last game you were reaper

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:31 PM

um are you talking of the same game

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

on mini server

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:31 PM

I was reaper on main game

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

That was the game I was AT or Bartender, I can't remember which game was which

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:31 PM

If you’re talking about main game

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

I was only reaper on a minis game

And I certainly didn't help lead town aha

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:31 PM

the minis game was actually a main game lol

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:31 PM

yeah

a split main game

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:32 PM

yea

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:32 PM

Yeah but that wasn't the game I was referring to

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:32 PM

I mean in the main server

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:32 PM

and void claimed journo in that one too as wolf (edited)

hence i thought you were talking of that one

and i can see why you'd say ptsd for that game too since you got really fucked by the incompetence of the wolves

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:33 PM

if you had to pick people in general to lead a team in a game who would you pick

aka who do you trust the most to lead your team in general

Heir to the Milky Way and i can see why you'd say ptsd for that game too since you got really fucked by the incompetence of the wolves

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:34 PM

Yeah and there wasn't really much I could do as reaper

I think I had one power the whole time

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:34 PM

yea

it was quite sad for you

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:34 PM

the rl wasnt great for reapers

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:34 PM

I haven't had a very lucky run as of late

My WR is going to be like 16% now

Must be a record

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:35 PM

i mean win rate isnt always an indicator of how good of a player you are

Party Planet aka who do you trust the most to lead your team in general

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:35 PM

ugh hard to say normally ts would be a good choice vera too you're good too arch can't think of anyone else who actually plays anymore

Party Planet i mean win rate isnt always an indicator of how good of a player you are

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

I hope so, otherwise I'm probably the worst

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

dennis is great as a lead

you aswell log

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:36 PM

ah dennis

how did i forget dennis

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

kruthers and jay to some extent aswell

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:36 PM

leila can be decent

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

astra jay

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

Luffy and MrM were good in one of my early games here too

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:36 PM

kruthers is rarely active enough anymore

luffy is decent too true

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:36 PM

currently yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:37 PM

jay i dunno, don't remember any games with them

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:37 PM

i think jay hard carried as undead

iirc

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:37 PM

kruthers plays well when he actually, you know, plays

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:37 PM

was wolf aswell

yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:38 PM

mostly, however, he doesn't

there was someone like that before also

in WW red

dimavz ig

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:39 PM

Sharl - Evil Scientist kruthers - Wolf Mat - Wolf's Cub

well they have 2 roles

but the ordering is just completely wrong

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:39 PM

ah

but they have all the scum lmao

WHY DID NO WOLF EVEN PUT UP A SLIGHT FIGHT AGAINST TS?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:39 PM

thex do

idk

i mean bart was rip

prophet already had to commit

sharl and mojo idk

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:40 PM

why did bart get caught anyways?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:40 PM

coroner

cit claim

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:40 PM

?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:40 PM

coroner got the message sneaking wolf killed

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:40 PM

oh

wait

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:41 PM

and bart was a risk they took

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:41 PM

why exactly

did ethan and ts

SAY THAT BART WAS ES THEN?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:41 PM

IDK

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:41 PM

WHAT THE ABSOLUTE HECK WAS WRONG WITH THEM

Party Planet sharl and mojo idk

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:41 PM

I didn’t say much anyway due to not being on when most of the activity was happening, or at all really (I should talk more)

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:41 PM

it got me killed, as i would never have risked a kill on void if i didn't think i was gonna die soon anyways

Party Planet prophet already had to commit

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:41 PM

Yeah I was screwed, I committed to a lie and got caught

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:41 PM

why lynch a cit claim with reasoning sneaking wolf and still believe he is es

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:42 PM

man this game

Party Planet why lynch a cit claim with reasoning sneaking wolf and still believe he is es

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:42 PM

exactly lol

Heir to the Milky Way SAY THAT BART WAS ES THEN?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:42 PM

Bart told them he was es

To confuse them

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:42 PM

your death proved void so at least a positive

Commander of the 7th Fleet Bart told them he was es

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:43 PM

i know but why did they believe him

Commander of the 7th Fleet Bart told them he was es

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:43 PM

yes but they lynched him on the basis of being the person that is likely sneaking wolf

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:43 PM

I see

Idk why they believed him aha

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:43 PM

unless arch didnt tell them until ethan was confirmed

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:43 PM

also sneaking wolf shouldn't have voted ig, but i don't blame him for doing it

Party Planet unless arch didnt tell them until ethan was confirmed

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:44 PM

hmm then why not tell me about it?

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:44 PM

probs cause of mats assassin claim

they didnt fully trust you

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:44 PM

oh

i should never have believed them

not gonna make this mistake again

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:45 PM

“also void will help a bit by dying” bruh

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:45 PM

mat still tries to go with it but no hope

town you know the evils

Bob from Nasa™ “also void will help a bit by dying” bruh

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:45 PM

Ouch

Bob from Nasa™ “also void will help a bit by dying” bruh

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:45 PM

ok who said this i shall kill them

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:45 PM

ts or ethan

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:45 PM

Ts

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:45 PM

I AM PRIEST

FUCKING PRIEST

~~HOW DO THEY NOT EVEN KNOW PRIEST CAN'T KILL TOWNIES~~ ignore this part (edited)

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:45 PM

he meant confirming leila

as leila is fa

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:46 PM

This game wants me to just demote afterwards and just don’t do hosting for a while

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

same

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:46 PM

No gm stuff

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

this game already broke me yesterday

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:46 PM

i think i shall hold off from playing any games now

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

i can still do logs

but i wont look at the game

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

This game is cray

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

i will probs play

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:46 PM

Love it

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:47 PM

i've had such miserable games in main servers before

but VIP

‍♂️

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:47 PM

i will see if i will regret my decision to play next game in future

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:47 PM

I don't mean to be an ass, just trying to learn, but wanna summarise the main mistakes for me? So I can learn aha

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:48 PM

hosting these 2 games broke me

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:48 PM

I don't see what you guys see

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:48 PM

kruthers is inactive and half the others are incompetent and VIP is supposed to be the exact opposite of that

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:48 PM

you didnt do much wrong yourself

it was the team in general

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:48 PM

Yeah. You did better than the rest of us wolves did in total

Commander of the 7th Fleet I don't mean to be an ass, just trying to learn, but wanna summarise the main mistakes for me? So I can learn aha

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:48 PM

eh you weren't that bad you at least tried with a claim and all

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:48 PM

getting caught in a lie is something that can happen

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:48 PM

yea

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:48 PM

Honestly I think the worst thing I did was trust what sharl was saying

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:49 PM

EXACTLY

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:49 PM

I knew I was going to get caught, just trying to delay it and hopefully get some info we could use

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:49 PM

you, like me, suffered for trusting your teammates

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:49 PM

Again, I don’t know why Sharl thought it was a good idea to kill you

Heir to the Milky Way you, like me, suffered for trusting your teammates

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:49 PM

Well, lesson learned I guess

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:49 PM

Like

Wtf

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:49 PM

Also smh town going for the “why should we tell you information, just trust us” ‘strat’

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:49 PM

after sharl failed in the vamp game i refrain from trusting his lead mostly

town knows evils wont win

why keep it secret anymore

Bob from Nasa™ Also smh town going for the “why should we tell you information, just trust us” ‘strat’

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:50 PM

it's the stupidest strat usually, but luckily for ton everyone else was just as incompetent, and ts found the IS-ES loophole

Mojo of Planet Jojo Again, I don’t know why Sharl thought it was a good idea to kill you

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:50 PM

Because of the fletchers customer thing wherein I could take Ts with me

Mojo of Planet Jojo Again, I don’t know why Sharl thought it was a good idea to kill you

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:50 PM

i mean ts kill was the worst idea

Party Planet i mean ts kill was the worst idea

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:50 PM

It really was. And I wish I had actually changed it sooner

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:51 PM

If it was another wolf who was customer we could have killed them to kill Ts and keep my lie safe, but it was me both times

Party Planet 23-May-21 12:51 PM

log was not a completely bad kill but ts was just stupid af

Heir to the Milky Way it's the stupidest strat usually, but luckily for ton everyone else was just as incompetent, and ts found the IS-ES loophole

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:51 PM

We really should need hooker by making it so they cannot visit the same person twice in a row

Party Planet after sharl failed in the vamp game i refrain from trusting his lead mostly

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:51 PM

ugh yes that one WE HAD LITERALLY WRITTEN DOWN ALL THE WOVLES FOR HIM but nope, why bother listening to anyone else poor orc never pushed sharl, nor did mojo (IIRC)

Bob from Nasa™ We really should need hooker by making it so they cannot visit the same person twice in a row

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:51 PM

yea

Party Planet log was not a completely bad kill but ts was just stupid af

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:51 PM

I mean, it was good for us, probably the only good thing we did

Party Planet log was not a completely bad kill but ts was just stupid af

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:52 PM

yea it would've been a fine kill if i wasn't gonna die anyways

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:52 PM

Wait, town tried to kill Log too?

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:52 PM

although the reasoning behind it was quite pointless

Commander of the 7th Fleet Wait, town tried to kill Log too?

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:52 PM

they made me water void, so i died, since void was, surprise surprise, TOWN

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:53 PM

Ahhh okay

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:53 PM

But has to be said, gg Bart for making everyone think they were es

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:53 PM

not one bit of explanation for why void should be a wolf, nada

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:53 PM

Yeah Bart sold that well

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:53 PM

yeah barts getting high subjective for it

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:53 PM

i thought maybe void was another tk claim or something

Heir to the Milky Way not one bit of explanation for why void should be a wolf, nada

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:53 PM

“Just trust us”

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:53 PM

yea bart was the only competent player this game

can we just cancel this

Bob from Nasa™ “Just trust us”

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:54 PM

i dunno why so many town leads think this is a good strategy despite the number of times it has failed

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 12:54 PM

I want to erase this game like it didn’t happen

Heir to the Milky Way yea bart was the only competent player this game

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:54 PM

Wish he'd taken more of a lead then haha

Mojo of Planet Jojo I want to erase this game like it didn’t happen

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:55 PM

Yea

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:55 PM

now obviously you don't need to leak info like so and so is the TI and all but usually town benefits from having some info out in the open because wolves ALREADY HAVE MORE INFO THAN TOWN at the start of the game

Mojo of Planet Jojo I want to erase this game like it didn’t happen

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 12:55 PM

Though the d0 rp can remain and the Eurovision song festival talk also because that was just fun

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:56 PM

kruthers man

very disappointing overall

never tried

he could've had such a good game with the number of visiting roles

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:58 PM

ugh

everytime i tried some rp it just ends n1

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:58 PM

welp

peeps don't care about rp anymore

those days are long past

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 12:59 PM

this game wouldve worked good but it just went shitty

way too fast

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:59 PM

yea

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 12:59 PM

What's rp?

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 12:59 PM

how did nobody except ts figure out the IS loophole though

very disappointed

Commander of the 7th Fleet What's rp?

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:00 PM

roleplay

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:00 PM

Yea like what happened d0

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 01:00 PM

Ahh right

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:00 PM

I forgot to continue rping. Which is sad because I love rp

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 01:00 PM

Role play would be my only points this game ahah

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:01 PM

i wouldve continued but no point doing it as host alone

nobody gives a fuck about it once they start talking lynches etc in townsquare

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:01 PM

Unfortunately

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:01 PM

same

i am still trying it

but no one does it

sad times

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:02 PM

ive given up on this game at this point

its hopeless

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:02 PM

well i wanna finish the game in the character i started

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:02 PM

lets start thinking about adjusting ratings

yeah

im thinking subjectives should decide the most of the scores for this game specifically

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:03 PM

Subjectives?

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:03 PM

did anyone play well, i doubt it

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:05 PM

Bart

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:05 PM

yeah

Mojo of Planet Jojo Subjectives?

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:05 PM

Scores we as hosts give each player on how good they played

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:05 PM

low ratings for most of the evils (edited)

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:06 PM

Definitely

Apart from Prophet

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:07 PM

and bart

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:07 PM

And Bart, yes

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:07 PM

prophet and bart get higher scores

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:07 PM

But Prophet tried to play, and the rest of us just didn’t do shit

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:07 PM

town get lower scores but a win, they got lucky but did kill their priest

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:07 PM

Let’s do the subjective scores and reset ASAP when game ends :)

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:07 PM

or misplayed completely

lets finish it quickly

max 1 day after game end so people can read through stuff if they want which i doubt

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 01:08 PM

yeah...

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:08 PM

Let’s also mute dead chat after game ends (:

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:09 PM

lol

mute participants from dead chat

Earth-Preservation President im thinking subjectives should decide the most of the scores for this game specifically

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:10 PM

idt that's possible the best bet is for you to simply give the game a lower weight, say 0.25, to account for the fact that this game cannot count as a proper game (edited)

Earth-Preservation President town get lower scores but a win, they got lucky but did kill their priest

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:11 PM

and were still quite confident that they couldn't possibly be wrong

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:11 PM

On a more positive note.. I loved my death message. CONSUMED BY THE PLANET

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:11 PM

bart must get the highest subjective score, he's like the only one to at least have a strat

or some idea what to do

Mojo of Planet Jojo On a more positive note.. I loved my death message. CONSUMED BY THE PLANET

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:12 PM

:)

also why is that every time either of you drops my name, its because I'm bait in a plan I didn't even know about

Ouch

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:13 PM

who's this

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:13 PM

It’s in trusted chat

Bob from Nasa™ 23-May-21 01:13 PM

Void

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:14 PM

ngl just give ts guardian

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:14 PM

ouch indeed

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:14 PM

also yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 01:14 PM

poor void

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:14 PM

oof

town out there throwing their own kind out of a live win

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:14 PM

Damn I really wanna write in my own chat just to reply to my death messages :(

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:15 PM

what did you want to say

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:15 PM

Didn’t know I was that tasty :)

Party Planet 23-May-21 01:15 PM

nomnom

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:16 PM

Wait

My face because nom

Mojo of Planet Jojo But Prophet tried to play, and the rest of us just didn’t do shit

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 01:19 PM

Honestly talking over things with you and Bart was super helpful so I wouldn't have been able to lie as well without you guys

But thanks for the feedback

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 01:45 PM

https://discord.com/channels/668821323325243403/844922936531746856/845990748272459816 Wait wtf

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 02:04 PM

kruthers escaped?

wow

Party Planet 23-May-21 02:07 PM

well

they figured out that sharl was wolf and kruthers es

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 02:07 PM

i c

well it's too late now

Commander of the 7th Fleet 23-May-21 02:29 PM

Game seems to be over pretty much then

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 02:32 PM

yup

Heir to the Milky Way depending on when that is, i might be able to host a game should be free enough from ~June 15

Owner of the Milky Way 23-May-21 10:13 PM

Ahahahaha Inb4 another extension on sem

Earth-Preservation President i wish i could forget about this game

Owner of the Milky Way 23-May-21 10:16 PM

I wish I could too I played terribly Just painful Couldn't spend too much time either cuz I suddenly had deadlines creeping up on my

This game was terrible

Owner of the Milky Way I wish I could too I played terribly Just painful Couldn't spend too much time either cuz I suddenly had deadlines creeping up on my

Heir to the Milky Way 23-May-21 10:17 PM

F

Why you awake

Owner of the Milky Way 23-May-21 10:18 PM

Idk I just suddenly don't feel like sleeping Though I spent the entire day on ODE report

Also, holy fk our gamble N2 actually worked a bit (edited)

Too bad we're already most figured out by then

Imma mute this server for 2 days

Mojo of Planet Jojo 23-May-21 11:36 PM

Wait where’s gm-rave-one?

Earth-Preservation President 23-May-21 11:59 PM

mini wolves

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:09 AM

Must only appear if you’ve signed up

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 12:23 AM

if you have spec or dead participant

Party Planet 24-May-21 10:57 AM

idk what ethan is on but this is just stupid

read through es

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:01 PM

Wait why did Matt kill kruthers while saying he'll kill Ethan what

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:06 PM

imma make an ff poll

Bob from Nasa™ 24-May-21 12:07 PM

Lets get this over with

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:07 PM

Honestly yeah

I can't

My brain can't

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:09 PM

hu i did not expect pack to kill me..

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:09 PM

you did not play well

sorry but it really wasnt good

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:09 PM

It was for more points

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:09 PM

not it waa not

why did you attack ts!

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:10 PM

wolves were terrible

sharl told mojo

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:10 PM

like no way that would work

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:10 PM

ask sharl

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:10 PM

I tried to tell sharl that

I said "Ts is hooker"

But I was supposed to be the only one to attack

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:10 PM

he publicly claimed it

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:11 PM

And I was forced to pick Ts, and then I couldn't change it until after it was done because i was bloody asleep

That's the thing about being an Australian when the timezone is completely different. Either you sacrifice your sleep or your activity

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:13 PM

hu i thought dennis was probs a ti i have got good at reading him

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:13 PM

meanwhile: infecting

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:13 PM

Why didn't you use your vials though?? That was whack

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:14 PM

^

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:14 PM

i did i was trying to figure out the best plays as i could only infect 2 people

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:14 PM

You went for the one person who didn't talk

Your ability is immediate

If you used your vial on Ts early on

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:15 PM

eh

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:15 PM

Then you would've killed at least 2 people with it

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:15 PM

ts only went to jay

which shouldnt be allowed

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:15 PM

exactly

and he is the only person who could spread it

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:15 PM

no

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:15 PM

But you had plenty of options. Why did you choose me???

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:15 PM

investing and targeting also infects

only killing and one dies doesnt spread

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:16 PM

as i did it first thing in the morning and happend to see you had been active in chat and i had not had time to think my plan though

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:16 PM

I was active the one day

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:16 PM

imma let them suffer now

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:17 PM

and i did not realse investigating would spread it

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:17 PM

i wont be paying attention until its over

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:18 PM

and i did not foucs enought this game its probs the worst game i have had in a long time, i am shit at solo roles

(excluding last game in main as that was going very well)

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:18 PM

Getting rid of Ts would've allowed you to live longer and probably win, is all i have to say

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:19 PM

yes but if with less players left the more that have to get infected

because say i used them both early and got unlucky i would have only killed like 2 people

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:21 PM

You didn't use them early enough though. And you didn't use them effectively enough to make up for the lateness

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:21 PM

look i know i played shit ill admit that its a new role and the first time its ever been used i dont expect many other people would do better

im just going to mutr this discord because you cant complain when how shit the pack did

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:22 PM

pack was worse than you

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:22 PM

Oh i know we went shit

You can scroll up for that

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:22 PM

their decision making was worse than britains idea of brexit

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:22 PM

Prophet was the only wolf who tried

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:22 PM

and bart somehow got log killed

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:23 PM

Sharl planned to kill prophet for no sane reason

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:23 PM

his own wolf?

sharl are you brain dead?

plus 5 wolves, wi claimed -> assumption www

what was that thought process?

the only wm that isnt in pack is packless wolf

and we are not using that role

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:24 PM

Honestly that one i have no clue about. I don't know what i was thinking (edited)

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:25 PM

town didnt play well

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:25 PM

Wolves played the worst

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:26 PM

they were lucky to be the best out of 3 bad team

lynching prophet was very risky

believing bart his es claim

like what

getting your priest killed that way

wolves just miss played from n2 onwards

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 12:28 PM

We really did

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:29 PM

and yeah es just didnt use his vials up until now

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 12:44 PM

town won because they got lucky

i thought ES would have a way bigger impact

and with less visiting roles that wouldve made wolves stronger

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:47 PM

and town didnt have really many/any confirmable roles

only one is trickster

and they say too many confirmable roles

we arent at fault for wolves flopping so hard

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 12:48 PM

most are in some way confirmable but not directly

most are easy to fake but get disproven because of reporter, lynch votes etc

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:49 PM

yes but before they had reporter it could have backfired trusting dennis

over prophet

plus luffy could have easily been a wolf

and they said luffy is safe

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 12:50 PM

yes

if wolves had counterclaimed then ts wouldnt have been trusted

Party Planet 24-May-21 12:50 PM

that aswell

plus ts just abused hooker by visiting the same person constantly

which should be changed

Bob from Nasa™ 24-May-21 12:51 PM

pr after this game

Yes

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 12:57 PM

dw i will create a range of issues when get home from playing es first hand

Party Planet over prophet

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:11 PM

Yeah which seemed weird to me, their convo with Dennis was so short and I had put so much effort into fooling them and talking to them

Had a chat with ts and Ethan and they still randomly trusted Dennis over me

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 01:12 PM

We had a conversation that this game, Fletcher Customer would be seen as threat

Party Planet his own wolf?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:12 PM

Yeah that was because of the fletchers customer thing I think, Ts would have died

Earth-Preservation President We had a conversation that this game, Fletcher Customer would be seen as threat

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:12 PM

That would have helped me ahah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 01:13 PM

I think they forgot that, Dennis checked you as threat (couldve been an easy fake) and they thought you were wolf because of it

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:13 PM

guess it got deleted

Earth-Preservation President I think they forgot that, Dennis checked you as threat (couldve been an easy fake) and they thought you were wolf because of it

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:14 PM

That's what I mean, like what reason did they have to believe Dennis over me

It was pure choice

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 01:23 PM

yeah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:23 PM

Lol ez game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 01:24 PM

gg

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:25 PM

stupid game more like

The First AI 24-May-21 01:26 PM

Yo that was a game where I did nothing

Descendant of the Dinosaurs 24-May-21 01:26 PM

■■•

The First AI 24-May-21 01:26 PM

and couldn't do anything

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:26 PM

this was an interesting choice for rolelist

Descendant of the Dinosaurs 24-May-21 01:26 PM

Oops

Wrong keyboard

Bob from Nasa™ once on mini i think

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 01:26 PM

it was used a few times on minis, and on vyryn vip, but those arent tracked

Descendant of the Dinosaurs 24-May-21 01:26 PM

ggs

Lizard Representative this was an interesting choice for rolelist

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:26 PM

"interesting"

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:26 PM

i mean this is my first win for fucking ages so im not complaining

i'm a little confused by coroner and assistant

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:27 PM

ts gave us a list to test out

a few roles to test

we picked a few

Lizard Representative this was an interesting choice for rolelist

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:27 PM

it was built for having ES, but ES never managed to get anything done

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:28 PM

I enjoyed the game and I think we did well, but we were always gonna win I think

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:28 PM

WAIT ES only had two vials?

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:28 PM

yeah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:28 PM

So confused

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:28 PM

yes

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:28 PM

Wow never trust stein

Bad host

Jk

Earth-Preservation President bakers dont have a seperate baker channel

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 01:28 PM

those are specifically disabled, are they not supposed to be?

Party Planet yeah

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:28 PM

why did you confirm the opposite though

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:28 PM

so many blunders from every team

Heir to the Milky Way so many blunders from every team

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:28 PM

wow excuse me

The First AI 24-May-21 01:29 PM

~~Stein why you disrespect me smh~~

Heir to the Milky Way so many blunders from every team

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:29 PM

what did we do wrong other than reading void wrong?

Lizard Representative wow excuse me

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:29 PM

you're not a team so bye

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:29 PM

i played absolutely perfectly. aka announced D0 and then did nothing.

1

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:29 PM

Log salty he died n2

Evil Ts what did we do wrong other than reading void wrong?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:29 PM

the whole strat of not revealing any information at all

Heir to the Milky Way you're not a team so bye

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:29 PM

fair nough

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:29 PM

it worked

I don't see how it's a blunder

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:29 PM

because wolves and es were much worse than town

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:29 PM

i was clearly town mvp I gave everyone info

JOKE

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:30 PM

some of the scums were town mvp contenders

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:30 PM

There was no point to reveal more info than necessary because then it could've leaked

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 01:30 PM

I mean, I died n1 and my sacrifice was almost in vain

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:30 PM

if not for the fact that the wolves had literally no idea what they were doing, the town wouldn't have an easy time

The First AI 24-May-21 01:30 PM

Wait, can I be scum MVP Contender?

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:30 PM

no

The First AI 24-May-21 01:30 PM

I had my target on a town for a day

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 01:30 PM

Prophet has to be MVP Scum

Evil Ts There was no point to reveal more info than necessary because then it could've leaked

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:30 PM

you got lucky mostly

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:30 PM

scum contenders are bart and prophet this game

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 01:30 PM

Like

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:30 PM

with this strat

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:30 PM

Damn ts infected last day

Lmao

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 01:31 PM

I won't have it any other way than Prophet

Heir to the Milky Way you got lucky mostly

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:31 PM

I mean we did, but if we hadnt been lucky it'd have worked

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:31 PM

What a middle finger

The First AI 24-May-21 01:31 PM

Also yeah Prophet definitely deserved scum MVP.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:31 PM

it wouldn't have, we've seen many times town is killed by lack of flow of info

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:31 PM

wolves had 2 nights of not attacking

The First AI Also yeah Prophet definitely deserved scum MVP.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:31 PM

bart did well too

The First AI 24-May-21 01:31 PM

I felt like town was led by TS/Ethan, but by force

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:31 PM

1st log who would have died to suicide

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:31 PM

it's not the worst rolelist I've ever seen I just think there were some odd choices tbh

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:32 PM

2nd attacking hooker

Heir to the Milky Way it wouldn't have, we've seen many times town is killed by lack of flow of info

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:32 PM

this is not as relevant with confirmed town

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:32 PM

which was luck

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:32 PM

no that was the role list

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:32 PM

fyi we gotta nerf hooker

Party Planet 2nd attacking hooker

The First AI 24-May-21 01:32 PM

I think LoG was unfortunate, but why the hell would they attack hooker?

Mojo of Planet Jojo I won't have it any other way than Prophet

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:32 PM

You are my hype person

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:32 PM

ts only went to jay

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:32 PM

If it wasn't for me revealing LoG died via suicide I bet yall would lynch void thinking he's ES

The First AI I think LoG was unfortunate, but why the hell would they attack hooker?

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:32 PM

oh that may have been me hinting he wasn't lol

Heir to the Milky Way which was luck

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:32 PM

this point makes no sense, of course we would base our strategy on the fact that both Ethan and me were confirmed

if that hadn't worked out we'd obviously have played differently

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:33 PM

I think the Hooker only going to one person perhaps should be limited to how many visits

Commander of the 7th Fleet You are my hype person

Mojo of Planet Jojo 24-May-21 01:33 PM

Because you deserve it. The rest of us wolves were shit, and you have to agree with that

Evil Ts no that was the role list

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:33 PM

if ES had infected better, a lot would've failed

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:33 PM

how so?

Heir to the Milky Way if ES had infected better, a lot would've failed

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:33 PM

*if es infected at all

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:33 PM

Well yeah I agree hooker had to be nerfed , and I said this several times lol

Evil Ts if that hadn't worked out we'd obviously have played differently

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:33 PM

it should never have been that way at all

Mojo of Planet Jojo Because you deserve it. The rest of us wolves were shit, and you have to agree with that

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:33 PM

Thank you, I guess we could have played better but I personally loved you guys helping me with my lies and whatnot so I couldn't have played as well without that

‍♂️

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:33 PM

you make absolutely no sense

Evil Ts how so?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:33 PM

imagine if ES had managed to infect roles that could actually visit

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:34 PM

yeah we were aware that's possible?

we talked about it alot

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 01:34 PM

TBH Bart caused the most confusion by claiming es

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:34 PM

and about using that to infect wolves

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:34 PM

also how did you believe Bart?

Heir to the Milky Way imagine if ES had managed to infect roles that could actually visit

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:34 PM

If ES infected Hooker who had to sleep with different people

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:34 PM

why you trusted that i do not know

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 01:34 PM

✅ Attempting to promote you, Lizard Representative!

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:34 PM

it made no difference

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:34 PM

i warned ethan it was a pretty stupid thing to trust bart

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:34 PM

didnt coroner say sneaking wolf attacked?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:34 PM

we didn't trust Bart

Heir to the Milky Way also how did you believe Bart?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 01:34 PM

Who would volunteraly claim hooker

ES*

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:34 PM

we didn't do anything with bart's info we werent already gonna do anyway

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

um

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 01:35 PM

I read hooker as I was typing it

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

you got me killed?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

no

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

obviously am salty about it

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

that was unrelated to bart

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

it wasn't

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

we already had void as wolf before that

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 01:35 PM

Wolves killed you anyway

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

uh yeah

Heir to the Milky Way you got me killed?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:35 PM

Your kill was pure conjecture by me, I promise

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

i only agreed so easily

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:35 PM

I was under the impression hooker couldn't sleep with the same person consecutively, was this not implemented in the game?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

we were gonna have you attack void either way

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:35 PM

We would have killed you regardless as a guess

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:35 PM

because i thought i'm dying

Lizard Representative I was under the impression hooker couldn't sleep with the same person consecutively, was this not implemented in the game?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

I also thought that was a thing

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:35 PM

meanwhile you didnt

Heir to the Milky Way because i thought i'm dying

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:35 PM

I mean if you hadn't attacked it would've been worse for town

bc you'd be dead anyway

so like

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:36 PM

How about we make it so hooker dies visiting a wolf

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:36 PM

no

The First AI 24-May-21 01:36 PM

That ruins the purpose of hooker

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:36 PM

that's the entire point of Hooker

yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:36 PM

true, but that was mostly the wolves just had no idea what they were doing

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:36 PM

Maybe only like a specific wolf, like werewolf or something

Heir to the Milky Way true, but that was mostly the wolves just had no idea what they were doing

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:36 PM

what?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:36 PM

no i mean, they are still immune to attacks if they're absent, they just have to be extra mindful who they're sleeping at

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:36 PM

either make it so hooker can't sleep consecutively or can't sleep with the same person twice

The First AI 24-May-21 01:36 PM

I think wolves just didn't have good claims

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:37 PM

the wolves just meta attacked me

Lizard Representative either make it so hooker can't sleep consecutively or can't sleep with the same person twice

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:37 PM

yeah those make more sense

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:37 PM

but the first seems more sensible

The First AI 24-May-21 01:37 PM

Like the assassin claim was really really bad

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:37 PM

wolves knew ts was hooker and still forced mojo to attack ts

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:37 PM

and that

Heir to the Milky Way the wolves just meta attacked me

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:37 PM

yeah so you attacking void was a good choice

The First AI 24-May-21 01:37 PM

Huntress is just superior in every way for a fake claim (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:37 PM

in retrospect

but it could've been quite bad

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:37 PM

it could've been

but once again it wasn't based on Bart's info

it was because void was really suspicious

Heir to the Milky Way the wolves just meta attacked me

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:37 PM

It was a guess, this whole game is based upon reads and guesses ahah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:38 PM

Psychic wolf was really weird in partial rolelist

Evil Ts but once again it wasn't based on Bart's info

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:38 PM

we obviously weren't gonna trust ES info at all

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:38 PM

They have no idea what roles there are in game

Why not have warlock

Evil Ts we obviously weren't gonna trust ES info at all

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:38 PM

well you had me believe i was infected, without which i obviously wouldn't have attacked void without you giving more info

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:38 PM

4 pack wolves then against this town?

Child of the Stars Psychic wolf was really weird in partial rolelist

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:39 PM

Yeah I had no idea what to guess aha all I could do was confirm claims and even then I was affected by disguises

Child of the Stars Psychic wolf was really weird in partial rolelist

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:39 PM

yea was thinking the same

Heir to the Milky Way well you had me believe i was infected, without which i obviously wouldn't have attacked void without you giving more info

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:39 PM

then you're the one messing up

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:39 PM

Wasn't there pack warlock or smth

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:39 PM

no

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:39 PM

no

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:39 PM

wi

Oh

Evil Ts then you're the one messing up

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:39 PM

wow

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:39 PM

only pack invest is psychic

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:39 PM

if this has taught me anything

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:39 PM

Then make one

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:39 PM

lone warlock only comes when a wolf dies

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:39 PM

don't trust your judgement is one of it

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:39 PM

every decision was right in retrospect

so that's a weird conclusion but okay

the only one that didn't work out as expected was void not being wolf

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:40 PM

1. psychic wolf in partial list 2. coroner with wolves and es (announced) 3. assistant with only one wolf power 4. fortune apprentice 5. hooker may have been a little overpowered here but idk

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:40 PM

I have to admit TS and Ethan were too paranoid but I cant disagree with better safe than sorry

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:40 PM

we knew it wasn't a risk

we couldn't have died in the same night

so if one us had died the other would've shared info

Lizard Representative 1. psychic wolf in partial list 2. coroner with wolves and es (announced) 3. assistant with only one wolf power 4. fortune apprentice 5. hooker may have been a little overpowered here but idk

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:40 PM

no other wolf invest that is in pack from the start

Descendant of the Dinosaurs 24-May-21 01:41 PM

I didnt get any powers which is a rip but also good that we didnt lose a town in the process

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:41 PM

Just make a new WI role

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:41 PM

assisstant was a test

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:41 PM

sz

Ez

Party Planet assisstant was a test

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:41 PM

assistant was great

Evil Ts we knew it wasn't a risk

The First AI 24-May-21 01:41 PM

The issue with that is that relies on town trusting that you two play perfectly

Party Planet no other wolf invest that is in pack from the start

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:41 PM

it's still shit for wolves lol. lone warlock would have been better

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:41 PM

hooker was in cooperation with es

Child of the Stars Just make a new WI role

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:41 PM

pack warlock would be really powerful

The First AI 24-May-21 01:41 PM

it's much easier for 2 people to make a mistake then something like 6

The First AI The issue with that is that relies on town trusting that you two play perfectly

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:41 PM

we had the most info, so we were gonna do the most informed decisions

The First AI The issue with that is that relies on town trusting that you two play perfectly

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:41 PM

exactly

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:41 PM

yeah but Wyatt we couldn't give you info

Lizard Representative it's still shit for wolves lol. lone warlock would have been better

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:41 PM

and then have only 4 wolves and risking them killing their own?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:41 PM

so you couldn't have made informed decisions

The First AI 24-May-21 01:41 PM

I understand me

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:42 PM

the number of times the whole "trust me" has failed

Party Planet and then have only 4 wolves and risking them killing their own?

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:42 PM

still better than psychic wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:42 PM

you should know better than to think this was excellent play from you

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:42 PM

psychic just doesn't work in partial.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:42 PM

it's not the worst play ever obviously

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:42 PM

We avoided leaks and always made decent decisions

town leaks way too often

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:42 PM

Clairvoyant fox? Clairvoyant fox!

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:42 PM

but it's far from how good you seem to think

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:42 PM

i get why you chose it but it's still not great

The First AI 24-May-21 01:42 PM

The thing is, leaving essentially confirmed people without info is making town trust that the decisions you're making based of the info is without logical oversights.

Heir to the Milky Way but it's far from how good you seem to think

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:42 PM

then what was bad

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:43 PM

this time

it worked

this time

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:43 PM

that argument is dumb

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:43 PM

it's not, and you know it

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:43 PM

I told you we only did it because we knew it was gonna work

The First AI 24-May-21 01:43 PM

The more people you give info, the more those logical oversights can be caught.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:43 PM

otherwise we would've played differently (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:43 PM

ugh forget it

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:43 PM

Honestly if Ts and Ethan had shared more with more people I dare say I would have been on that list early and sharing with me could have been bad for town

The First AI The more people you give info, the more those logical oversights can be caught.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:43 PM

thank you

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:43 PM

yeah ofc in general this strategy wont always work

Lizard Representative 1. psychic wolf in partial list 2. coroner with wolves and es (announced) 3. assistant with only one wolf power 4. fortune apprentice 5. hooker may have been a little overpowered here but idk

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:43 PM

@Party Planet also come on there's no excuse for assistant

Commander of the 7th Fleet Honestly if Ts and Ethan had shared more with more people I dare say I would have been on that list early and sharing with me could have been bad for town

The First AI 24-May-21 01:44 PM

I mean 100 percent confirmed people

The First AI The more people you give info, the more those logical oversights can be caught.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:44 PM

and we shared info as soon as we could

The First AI 24-May-21 01:44 PM

Fair enough

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:44 PM

heck, ethan didn't even mention why we should lynch bart

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:44 PM

Lol true

The First AI I mean 100 percent confirmed people

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 01:44 PM

Ahh okay

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:44 PM

we didn't want to reveal what we knew

The First AI 24-May-21 01:44 PM

I was under the impression you left info out to confirmed poeple

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:44 PM

it was the IS that finally mentioned

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:44 PM

but Bart was suspected Sneaking Wolf

Heir to the Milky Way it was the IS that finally mentioned

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:44 PM

what

we lynched Bart bc he was Sneaking Wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:44 PM

and back then the town wasn't as confirmed

Evil Ts we lynched Bart bc he was Sneaking Wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:44 PM

you never told anyone

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:44 PM

I have to say, not saying things publicly, but being perfectly happy to tell unaligned in ccs was weird.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:45 PM

of course not

we didnt have anyone confirmed

Lizard Representative I have to say, not saying things publicly, but being perfectly happy to tell unaligned in ccs was weird.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:45 PM

that also^

this

is hopeless

Lizard Representative I have to say, not saying things publicly, but being perfectly happy to tell unaligned in ccs was weird.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:45 PM

we deliberately gave you misinformation

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:45 PM

pray tell when

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:45 PM

you could always give partial information

but NOOO

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:45 PM

when I talked to you half of the things were false

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:45 PM

I'm not talking about you

Heir to the Milky Way you could always give partial information

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:45 PM

I was at work that day and by the time I was back Bart had revealed as ES

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

we couldn't possibly be wrong, so we'll not tell the rest of potential town anything about why we should lynch bart (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:46 PM

but we lynched him because he was SnW

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:46 PM

I'm talking about Ethan refusing to reveal lynch reasons publicly, but telling me privately so that I leaked.

Heir to the Milky Way we couldn't possibly be wrong, so we'll not tell the rest of potential town anything about why we should lynch bart (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:46 PM

our read was 100% right

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

or why i should kill void (edited)

or really

ANYTHING

at all

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:46 PM

idk what Ethan told you

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

nothing you were willing to share

Lizard Representative I'm talking about Ethan refusing to reveal lynch reasons publicly, but telling me privately so that I leaked.

The First AI 24-May-21 01:46 PM

Oh I remember that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

he told me nothing

The First AI 24-May-21 01:46 PM

that made absolutely no sense (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

he said "void is confirmed to be wolf"

he said

CONFIRMED

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:46 PM

but we wanted you to attack him because he wanted me to stay home and gave both Ethan and me different info

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:46 PM

you can check yourself

Retired Fleet Commander 24-May-21 01:47 PM

Did some SCs get removed?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

he gave Ethan different info than me

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:47 PM

no

Evil Ts but we wanted you to attack him because he wanted me to stay home and gave both Ethan and me different info

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

you never told him of the IS hack

Retired Fleet Commander Did some SCs get removed?

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:47 PM

no

Heir to the Milky Way you never told him of the IS hack

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

ofc not

why would I tell a suspected wolf???

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

if he didn't know about the IS hack, you staying at home would've been a good strategy

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

no it wouldn't've been

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

imagine there was no IS

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

and it never is

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

but there was an ES

Party Planet no

Retired Fleet Commander 24-May-21 01:47 PM

Where is AT and FA?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

would you still visit every night

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

the chance of calling the bluff (even if it isn't one) isn't good

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:47 PM

when you risk infection?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:47 PM

yes

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:48 PM

wow

ok

Retired Fleet Commander Where is AT and FA?

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:48 PM

still there

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:48 PM

Infection is delayed death

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:48 PM

#aura-teller

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:48 PM

yep

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:48 PM

Getting attacked is immediate death

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:48 PM

#fortune-apprentice

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:48 PM

WHY would wolves attack you?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:48 PM

There was absolutely no way I could stay at home

Because Hooker can be a bluff?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:48 PM

from void's perspective

it was a perfect strat

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:48 PM

and wolves did in fact attack me

so like

I was right

Evil Ts Because Hooker can be a bluff?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:48 PM

well void didn't believe that?

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:48 PM

wolves attacking you was stupid (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:49 PM

wolves attacked you thinking you'll not visit or something

again

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:49 PM

Void gave Ethan and me different info

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:49 PM

they knew you were hooker

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:49 PM

RIGHT IN RETROSPECT (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:49 PM

no

I guessed it's possible

and they did it

you're just trying to make us seem bad fsr

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:49 PM

you're mistaking being accidentally correct with being perfect

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:49 PM

Well tbh I'd be as salty as log if I was told to kill a "Confirmed" wolf and found out he was town

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:49 PM

^

Party Planet still there

Retired Fleet Commander 24-May-21 01:49 PM

Weird, must be phone bug then

Heir to the Milky Way you're mistaking being accidentally correct with being perfect

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:49 PM

We considered it's a possibility

it would've been correct even if they hadn't attacked me

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:50 PM

i'm being more harsh than i should be, but you weren't as good as you're pretending either

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:50 PM

not every possibility needs to happen

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 01:50 PM

I didnt know they told u Void was confirmed wolf, I thought yall played a sacrifice strat to confirm a TM

Child of the Stars Well tbh I'd be as salty as log if I was told to kill a "Confirmed" wolf and found out he was town

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:50 PM

and ultimately it helped town a lot

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:50 PM

"ultimately"

again

the same

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:50 PM

yeah I told you

that one was a blunder

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:50 PM

i pinged you in these channels @Retired Fleet Commander

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:50 PM

but it worked out

you clearly weren't reading anything we were saying

because I repeatedly said that was a blunder that worked out for us

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:51 PM

fine

‍♂️

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:51 PM

and void lying to Ethan was just very incriminating

when Ethan was confirmed

Earth-Preservation President a wolfteam that distrusts because they're stupid enough to think there's a www

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 01:52 PM

????????????????????? the wolves thought there was a WWW??

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:52 PM

yes

at the start

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:52 PM

lmfao

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:53 PM

dont ask why

the wi claimed aswell and they still thought www was in game

The First AI 24-May-21 01:53 PM

https://discord.com/channels/668821323325243403/845382517359640576/845565439152750642 I partly get LoG's saltiness

but I think LoG is combining TS + Ethan and sharing the blame on both of them, while TS I don't think had anything to do with this mistake

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:54 PM

perhaps he didn't

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:54 PM

it's accurate

The First AI 24-May-21 01:54 PM

I seriously doubt TS would tell Ethan to say Void is wolf with this much certainty

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:54 PM

Void was lying

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:54 PM

but i guessed ts was calling the shots

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:54 PM

he told Ethan that you were Journalist

and he told me you were Huntress

The First AI 24-May-21 01:54 PM

There's no "I think Void was wolf because ...."

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:54 PM

when Ethan was confirmed

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:54 PM

^

The First AI 24-May-21 01:54 PM

Saying "Void is wolf because claims"

is so wrong

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:54 PM

Ethan could've explained it

The First AI There's no "I think Void was wolf because ...."

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:55 PM

THIS is what annoys the hell out of me (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:55 PM

There's also the ES fake thing

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:55 PM

no explanation

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:55 PM

Void refused to message ES pretending to be wolf

when he was journalist and had nothing to risk

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:55 PM

and i'm not sure if ts is behind the lack of an explanation, but seeing how he defends not giving out info, i'm guessing he is

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:55 PM

1) questionable hooker advice 2) lying to confirmed townie (ethan) 3) refusing to try to talk to ES claim

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:56 PM

genuine question ts: what was all that "wolves are gonna kill you"? you didn't even need my vote

Heir to the Milky Way and i'm not sure if ts is behind the lack of an explanation, but seeing how he defends not giving out info, i'm guessing he is

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:56 PM

I don't think we discussed that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:56 PM

oh

well

fine

Lizard Representative genuine question ts: what was all that "wolves are gonna kill you"? you didn't even need my vote

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:56 PM

we didn't then

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:56 PM

my apologies

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:56 PM

we just wanted you on our side because why not

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:56 PM

i seem to have blamed you for ethan's mistakes

Evil Ts we just wanted you on our side because why not

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:56 PM

fair enough

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:56 PM

I think our decision to attack void was reasonable, and I doubt you'd have disagreed if Ethan told you

at the point we got the ES fake info I already wanted to kill void

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 01:57 PM

i would have LIKED to play both sides because that's more fun but town just had too much of an advantage

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:57 PM

if you hadn't attacked void, I'd have lynched him

The First AI 24-May-21 01:57 PM

Even over an assassin who never killed?

I understand Void looked really sus

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:57 PM

we didn't lynch Mat because we suspected cub

The First AI 24-May-21 01:57 PM

Oh I see.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:57 PM

but we didn't want to explain bc we didnt want to give info to wolves

Prophet told us there was no cub but we didn't really believe it

because pack seemed so weak

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:58 PM

pack should've been strong if ES had infected a townie that could visit

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:58 PM

not really

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:58 PM

unfortunately that didn't work out

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:58 PM

because then the townies become low budget TKs

but wolves can't do the same

wolves can only spread via PW

or if they hit runner

but there were no runners

ES was town sided

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:59 PM

i do think there should've been another wolf with a power (edited)

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:59 PM

you wouldnt have known who was infected untill it was too late ts

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:59 PM

we know

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 01:59 PM

you only find out the night they die

Evil Ts 24-May-21 01:59 PM

we even discussed that after we checked luffy that it was dumb

in #trusted

Party Planet 24-May-21 01:59 PM

so it would have helped wolves that you infect others

but you only went to jay

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:00 PM

yeah to avoid infection

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:00 PM

yeah no

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:00 PM

"void has been found as a wolf due to his claim" yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:00 PM

it's not dumb, if you could find out about infection BEFORE you can infect anyone else, high chance you'd just not visit anyone after knowing you're infected too big a nerf for ES

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:00 PM

That's a bad wording

Heir to the Milky Way it's not dumb, if you could find out about infection BEFORE you can infect anyone else, high chance you'd just not visit anyone after knowing you're infected too big a nerf for ES

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:00 PM

yeah people shouldn't be aware

I meant that we shouldn't have used AT check on a suspected townie

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:01 PM

ah

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:01 PM

it was an unnecessary risk

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:01 PM

yes indeed

also, things like huntress and assistant can also spread disease

The First AI 24-May-21 02:01 PM

I don't want people to misconstrue criticisms about gameplay as criticism about themselves, because that's not the case. However, I believe Ethan overall was too secretive about the info he receieved.

Heir to the Milky Way also, things like huntress and assistant can also spread disease

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:02 PM

yeah we were talking about potentially weaponizing that

The First AI 24-May-21 02:02 PM

He didn't tell why Bart was being lynched initially, as well as being secretive (and wrong) about the Void kill.

The First AI I don't want people to misconstrue criticisms about gameplay as criticism about themselves, because that's not the case. However, I believe Ethan overall was too secretive about the info he receieved.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:02 PM

that, unfortunately, seems to miss too many people

The First AI He didn't tell why Bart was being lynched initially, as well as being secretive (and wrong) about the Void kill.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:02 PM

that was my decision

but I was at work that day

I wanted to lynch Bart he claimed Citizen and was pretty clearly Sneaking Wolf

by the time I was back he was Evil Scientist or something

The First AI I don't want people to misconstrue criticisms about gameplay as criticism about themselves, because that's not the case. However, I believe Ethan overall was too secretive about the info he receieved.

The First AI 24-May-21 02:03 PM

Also if I give out criticism, I'm going to have to receive it eventually. If I do something stupid in a future game please roast the shit out of me.

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:03 PM

And once again the void kill wasn't stupid

The First AI 24-May-21 02:03 PM

the void kill wasn't stupid

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:03 PM

I mean it was clearly wrong, but it wasn't stupid

The First AI 24-May-21 02:03 PM

the reasoning given out to LoG was (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:04 PM

I'm not sure what data we had at that point

I think there was a believable cc to Priest

The First AI 24-May-21 02:04 PM

I was the cc to Priest

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:04 PM

no you didnt have a cc

Assassin was the Priest cc

The First AI 24-May-21 02:04 PM

but don't I cc both?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:04 PM

no

The First AI 24-May-21 02:04 PM

we're all TK

wait Assassin/Priest can't both exist?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:04 PM

that's why you were in the first trusted

Assassin + Priest was incredibly unlikely

so we couldn't trust Mat or LoG until we got the data from Coroner

which is why LoG probably didn't receive a lot of info

The First AI Like the assassin claim was really really bad

The First AI 24-May-21 02:06 PM

Yeah no, this is wrong from me. Assassin claim probably wasn't that bad. Still maybe a little short-sided, but definitely can't be awful. My mistake and apologies. (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:06 PM

Ethan got all the claims, but it was very early in the game

so both were believable

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:06 PM

#exleader is best cc, also why are you on the alt Ts?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:07 PM

I'm reading this channel on my main account

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:07 PM

Ah

Smort

I just went through #wolfpack

Very interesting

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:07 PM

don't even get me started on the wolves

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:08 PM

Just remember I'm still new

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:08 PM

i cannot put in words how much i want to murder them for their incompetency

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:08 PM

it was less the roles more the players

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:08 PM

Please

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:08 PM

not prophet and bart

Commander of the 7th Fleet Just remember I'm still new

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:08 PM

you were decent

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:08 PM

those two were fine

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:08 PM

Prophet was immediately read as wolf by Bob

idk how but it happened

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:08 PM

F

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:08 PM

I'll have to find that cc later

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:08 PM

Yeah idk how he did that

It can't be just because I was reluctant to claim

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:09 PM

and the team as a whole man

‍♂️

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:09 PM

If I really was at I would still be as reluctant

To Bob I was literally playing at

Heir to the Milky Way and the team as a whole man

‍♂️

The First AI 24-May-21 02:09 PM

I'm curious

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:09 PM

maybe his read was just wrong

(but accidentally accurate) (edited)

The First AI 24-May-21 02:09 PM

what did they do that was really bad?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:09 PM

it wasn't one thing

The First AI 24-May-21 02:09 PM

specifically Sharl, Mat, and Mojo

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:09 PM

it was everything

it was like

they weren't really trying

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:10 PM

Feel free to point out things I did wrong too, I want to learn and get better, I won't be offended

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:10 PM

they were all just, idk, looking for someone else to try and lead them or something?

Commander of the 7th Fleet Feel free to point out things I did wrong too, I want to learn and get better, I won't be offended

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:10 PM

ask @Loy, Conquerer of the Moon since he seems to have read you

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:10 PM

I will, but not just that, anything

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:11 PM

honestly Bobloy's read could've been wrong

my read on prophet wasn't wolf

I believed it until we got an AT cc

so at some point during N1 we shifted to Dennis as the more likely real TI

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:11 PM

how did you pick b/w dennis and prophet anyways?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:11 PM

How come?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:11 PM

I can't say this about you because I don't know if this is the case

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:11 PM

What's #preservation-room for?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:11 PM

it was kinda hard to say which of the two

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:11 PM

Role playing?

Heir to the Milky Way how did you pick b/w dennis and prophet anyways?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:11 PM

the assistant strat

Child of the Stars What's #preservation-room for?

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:11 PM

that was rp

The First AI 24-May-21 02:11 PM

But I can say for a fact that no wolf ever CCed me (edited)

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:11 PM

did you not see that one?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:12 PM

Oh

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:12 PM

ohhh right

right

i forgot

The First AI 24-May-21 02:12 PM

Wolves tend to CC way less

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:12 PM

that channel created gm rave 3

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:12 PM

even if luffy was wolf it still confirmed Prophet as also wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:12 PM

you had him check luffy

wait why?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:12 PM

and even worse, oftentimes multiple wolves don't cc the same person

Evil Ts the assistant strat

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:12 PM

What's that?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:12 PM

if luffy lied about having his power used he'd needed to have the info to get the time right

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:12 PM

ah right

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:12 PM

but to have that info Prophet needed to also be wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:12 PM

yes

Commander of the 7th Fleet What's that?

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:13 PM

we had you check Assistant which redirected the check onto somebody else and good informed that his power was used

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:13 PM

hmm assistant is actually more powerful than it seems

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:13 PM

yeah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:13 PM

Let's not blame the wolves lol, being a wolf is harder than town

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:13 PM

I'm pretty happy with how that strat worked out

it was something I only realized ingame, and hadn't considered previously

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:13 PM

wolves had no solid lead right

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:13 PM

wolves were kinda weak actually

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:13 PM

Yeah they can be better but i can understand since wolf Is hard to play

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:13 PM

wolves were very weak

Child of the Stars What's #preservation-room for?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:13 PM

Vera made it and added me and we looked on the olden times for my rp

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:14 PM

this has to be the weakest wolf faction we've seen in many months

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:14 PM

I also think it would have been nice for them to have been given a more experienced player as well

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:14 PM

Check #trickster for my rp backstory

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:14 PM

though i don't blame the hosts for it

The First AI 24-May-21 02:14 PM

The biggest mistake that most players make with wolves is playing too passively

Prophet definitely didn't make that mistake

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:14 PM

Oh i see

Heir to the Milky Way this has to be the weakest wolf faction we've seen in many months

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:14 PM

@The Last Real Human shout out to that vip game where we were wolves together

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:14 PM

two strats the hosts didn't forsee

Heir to the Milky Way so if es were to attempt to infect ts, he would be able to success if and only if he did it before ts slept with someone

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:14 PM

that isn't accurate, Hooker only dodges attacks

The First AI 24-May-21 02:14 PM

But the best way to win as a wolf is to try to confuse town somehow (edited)

a fake TI claim is a very good way to do that

unfortunate it didn't work out

but a good strat

The Last Real Human that isn't accurate, Hooker only dodges attacks

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:15 PM

yes i changed that later on

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:15 PM

Yeah I tried

Thanks

Heir to the Milky Way yes i changed that later on

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:15 PM

ah I'm not that far yet

The First AI a fake TI claim is a very good way to do that

The First AI 24-May-21 02:15 PM

@Captain of the Void Patrol knows about my thoughts this

(edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:15 PM

a fake TP claim would've been best for wolves

Commander of the 7th Fleet Yeah I tried

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:15 PM

claiming TI is nice, but dont let the WI do it

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:15 PM

fake TP, then kill ethan

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:15 PM

The fake TI claim didn't work because of hosts saying FC shows as threat and Dennis wouldn't have known that

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:15 PM

wolves NEEDED to take tp yeah

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:15 PM

the wolves should've done the risky claims

and possibly the ScW

ScW for TK and Wolves for TI/TP

The First AI 24-May-21 02:16 PM

I mean wolves not taking TP isn't the fake TI's fault

it's more the fake TMs fault

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:16 PM

i think ScW would've done better as a hooker claim?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:16 PM

Trouble with tp is we don't actually have the power, so after we are asked to do an action we get outed

The First AI I mean wolves not taking TP isn't the fake TI's fault

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:16 PM

yeah

Commander of the 7th Fleet Trouble with tp is we don't actually have the power, so after we are asked to do an action we get outed

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:16 PM

Medium, Hooker work, RK can work

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:16 PM

you could claim hooker as ScW

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:16 PM

but I want more weak TP's

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:16 PM

very easily

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:16 PM

I see

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:16 PM

yeah ScW and Hooker have the same feedback

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:16 PM

I'll remember for next time

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:16 PM

hooker claims aren't trustworthy if CCed

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:17 PM

Last VIP void faked RK as shepherd for a bit

The First AI 24-May-21 02:17 PM

The problem is that with oftentimes passive wolf players

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:17 PM

but you need to be quick with hooker claims

the later you claim

The First AI 24-May-21 02:17 PM

You don't want to overcomponsate

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:17 PM

the less believable

The First AI 24-May-21 02:17 PM

if you always claim TI/TP as wolf

all your TM claims will auto be town, and all your TI/TP claims in the future make you look sus

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:17 PM

i do think that the ScW should've claimed hooker D1

as early as possible

The First AI 24-May-21 02:18 PM

but that can lead to a overall very weak team

so it's a tough balancing act

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

yeah especially bc they knew I was Hooker

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:18 PM

Yeah I knew you were hooker

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

they could've easily CCed me early

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:18 PM

Confirmed n1

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:18 PM

oh?

why did no one cc

man

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

I already claimed earlier than that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:18 PM

if you'd cced

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

I claimed to Bart

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:18 PM

the whole town would've been weakened a lot

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

D0 or start of N1

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:18 PM

and yet wolves attacked you

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:18 PM

so wolves knew I was Hooker from the start and confirmed it N1

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:18 PM

I confirmed with my question

I wanted to find a confirmed town to claim to

Since if I was actually at I would do that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:19 PM

am kinda surprised there was no DF this game though

The First AI 24-May-21 02:19 PM

Yo

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:20 PM

expected one (edited)

The First AI 24-May-21 02:20 PM

an Innkeeper fake TP claim

would be really spicy

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:20 PM

or CF

Heir to the Milky Way tbh the IS+Hooker is a bit of a bug that ts is doubtless gonna exploit, but wolves are unfortunately too stupid to realise

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:20 PM

that definitely seemd unintentional

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:20 PM

i like foxes

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:20 PM

I can tell the rl makers wanted to avoid citizens so badly lol

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:20 PM

It would have been useless due to the TI

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:20 PM

FA Just seems so unnecessary

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:20 PM

DF had no use with AT + Coroner

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:20 PM

yeah we thought FA was fake for a long time

because why would there be a FA

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:20 PM

FA should really be used when TI is weak

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:20 PM

You know what gamers? Let's add back claimspace

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:21 PM

Tbh I guessed with AT, was hoping there was no cc

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:21 PM

To replace citizens

Child of the Stars You know what gamers? Let's add back claimspace

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:21 PM

It was hated so archived

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:21 PM

btw

why did you guys

attack fletcher?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:21 PM

It was gonna be added back

But then didn't

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:21 PM

lmaooo

Heir to the Milky Way does huntress/fletcher customer attack count as end night, or post end night?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:21 PM

it's end night consequences, after end night, but still in the night phase

Heir to the Milky Way attack fletcher?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:21 PM

So if prophet died his attack couldn't be revoked

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:22 PM

fletcher attacks feels like a waste

Heir to the Milky Way attack fletcher?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:22 PM

Because he claimed town to me and said he could prove it

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion So if prophet died his attack couldn't be revoked

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:22 PM

too weak to care about

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:22 PM

And no one else had a better idea

Child of the Stars You know what gamers? Let's add back claimspace

The First AI 24-May-21 02:22 PM

I definitely like role list like these where it's more flexible

instead of role lists where you're forced to fake claim very specific roles

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:22 PM

We said if prophet was wolf we wouldn't night kill him

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:22 PM

if you killed him to prevent a town lead, you would've killed ethan too, so kinda weird

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:22 PM

Always lynch him

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:23 PM

Would killing ethan be bad

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:23 PM

not really

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:23 PM

Yeah i suppose

The First AI 24-May-21 02:23 PM

why would an ethan kill be bad?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:23 PM

depends on how you see it

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:23 PM

Ts was already confirmed N2 and had all the info so it didn't matter

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:23 PM

Well they have negative vote

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:23 PM

it's not a high value

Heir to the Milky Way if you killed him to prevent a town lead, you would've killed ethan too, so kinda weird

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:23 PM

We were going to, but we saw we were getting further behind so we took a risk and tried to kill more important town

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:23 PM

but it's not low value either

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:23 PM

So they don't really count to townie number

Commander of the 7th Fleet We were going to, but we saw we were getting further behind so we took a risk and tried to kill more important town

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:23 PM

ah fair

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:23 PM

My role was useless once I was confirmed

Child of the Stars Well they have negative vote

The First AI 24-May-21 02:24 PM

Wait actually it's bad in a VIP setting

Earth-Preservation President "role changes" shut up, i didnt make fun of him for that stupid as hell clairvoyant fox decision like he's doing for my logical fletcher customer decision

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:24 PM

that wasn't my decision, and it also wasn't against the role description

The First AI 24-May-21 02:24 PM

in the normal setting

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:24 PM

there were a rather large number of confirmable roles

The First AI 24-May-21 02:24 PM

it's an auto must kill

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:24 PM

Why?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:24 PM

because there's always going to be that one town who doesn't know wtf is going on

Earth-Preservation President "role changes" shut up, i didnt make fun of him for that stupid as hell clairvoyant fox decision like he's doing for my logical fletcher customer decision

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:24 PM

I liked the fc change.

The First AI 24-May-21 02:24 PM

so killing town lead is important

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:24 PM

the FC change is fine, if it's a change

The First AI Wait actually it's bad in a VIP setting

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:24 PM

....what?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:25 PM

Oh yeah VIP is only decent players

The First AI 24-May-21 02:25 PM

@Heir to the Milky Way I'm stating killing town leads is more important in a non-VIP setting

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:25 PM

No scrubs allowed

The First AI 24-May-21 02:25 PM

because there's no clueless players

The First AI so killing town lead is important

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:25 PM

In hindsight, yeah we should have, I was thinking that after we did it tbh

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:25 PM

ah yes true

i'd not have killed fletcher at all

or ethan

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:26 PM

1st time dennis wasnt screwed as an invest n1 @Retired Fleet Commander congrats

The First AI 24-May-21 02:26 PM

I think I was very fortunate not to cc a wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:26 PM

lolol

Retired Fleet Commander 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Omg

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Wouldn't you want to kill townies with actual vote value first?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Wtf

The First AI 24-May-21 02:26 PM

because I auto-claimed huntress this game

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Cursed

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Our guess kills were fine I thought, but we were too far behind because of other things

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Dennis | Participant Basics Kill him night 1

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Lies

Child of the Stars Wouldn't you want to kill townies with actual vote value first?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Usually yes, but if you take over the lead as wolf no.

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:26 PM

Well trickster is only useful if there's gonna be a snipe

Child of the Stars Wouldn't you want to kill townies with actual vote value first?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:26 PM

a -1 is as valuable as a +1

The First AI 24-May-21 02:26 PM

you want to take town lead down so you can wolf lead (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:27 PM

Trickster + guardian in F3 is pog

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:27 PM

if the wolves are near majority, it makes no difference

The First AI you want to take town lead down so you can wolf lead (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:27 PM

yep

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:27 PM

Hm true

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:27 PM

but in this case there were too many possible town leads

fletcher, trickster, hooker

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:27 PM

Even I can pretend to town lead

Heir to the Milky Way ~~HOW DO THEY NOT EVEN KNOW PRIEST CAN'T KILL TOWNIES~~ ignore this part (edited)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:28 PM

we do know that, that was said when we wanted to pretend void is ES

The Last Real Human we do know that, that was said when we wanted to pretend void is ES

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:28 PM

ugh ignore that one, i mistook something

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:28 PM

ah

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:28 PM

lmao ts talking with both accounts

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:28 PM

Lol ts ur using alts

Both alts

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:28 PM

both alts

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:28 PM

How do you think we won /s

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:28 PM

there's another alt

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:29 PM

I am

The First AI 24-May-21 02:29 PM

I'm trying to think what would have been wolf's best course of action here

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:29 PM

BTW

The First AI 24-May-21 02:29 PM

Probably the 2 TP fake claim setup

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:29 PM

tp

The First AI 24-May-21 02:29 PM

in order to try to discredit both Fletcher and TS

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:29 PM

has it ever happened that somebody had two accounts

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:29 PM

We confirmed townies too easily

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:29 PM

playing in one game?

Party Planet lmao ts talking with both accounts

Evil Ts 24-May-21 02:29 PM

im reading #dead_spectator on my main

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:29 PM

or one speccing or something?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:29 PM

Townsfolk Power Fletcher Grandma Hooker Medium Royal Knight Stalker Innkeeper Exorcist

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:29 PM

It was hard for wolves to win after that

The First AI in order to try to discredit both Fletcher and TS

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:29 PM

I wouldn't try to discred fletcher

The First AI 24-May-21 02:29 PM

2 TPs/1 TI/1 TK/ 1 TM

as wolves

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:30 PM

Esp considering a wolf was customer

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:30 PM

yea

The First AI 24-May-21 02:30 PM

@Lizard Representative The thing is only person who knew Bobloy was certainly Fletcher was TS

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:30 PM

TP/TI/TK + 2 TM probably

Heir to the Milky Way or one speccing or something?

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:30 PM

we had tks with a friend who speced to give him info

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:30 PM

What would be a perfect wolf claim?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:30 PM

so if you try to make TS look bad

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:30 PM

As tp

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:30 PM

customer would be asked to defend fletcher

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:30 PM

Medium? Like town of salem lol

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:30 PM

also poor wolves got fucked by ES choosing a wolf

The First AI 24-May-21 02:30 PM

BUT THERE"S NO CUSTOMER

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:30 PM

Medium is easy to fake

The First AI 24-May-21 02:30 PM

Because customer is a wolf

Party Planet we had tks with a friend who speced to give him info

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:30 PM

oh

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:30 PM

Yeah people won't trust u

The First AI 24-May-21 02:31 PM

so when "customer" is asked to defend

Lizard Representative Medium is easy to fake

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:31 PM

ACTUALLY yes

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:31 PM

Townsfolk Power Fletcher Grandma Hooker Medium Royal Knight Stalker Innkeeper Exorcist

The First AI 24-May-21 02:31 PM

nobody is going to be there

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:31 PM

hooker is also SUPER easy to fake

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:31 PM

yes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:31 PM

Problem is reporter

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:31 PM

hooker SHOULD have been faked

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:31 PM

Medium, Hooker, Exorcist + kinda RK

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:31 PM

fletcher can be, grandma rk and stalker can't

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:31 PM

Wolves shouldn't intertwine claims

The First AI 24-May-21 02:31 PM

@Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Don't allow reporter

if you fake claim TP

TS isn't getting Mayor/Reporter

etch

so just kill Mayor

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:31 PM

Also wolves couldn't cc Ts

The First AI 24-May-21 02:32 PM

why not?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:32 PM

Prophet said he checked him as Not Threat

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:32 PM

um

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:32 PM

wolves still should've claimed med at least

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:32 PM

that's make perfect sense actually

that way, no one would think prophet is a wolf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:32 PM

yeah cause a "fellow" wolf confirmed me

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:32 PM

if ts is hooker

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:32 PM

if I was the wolf

and there was a hooker cc

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:32 PM

exactly

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Prophet said he checked him as Not Threat

The First AI 24-May-21 02:33 PM

Prophet shouldn't do that in the 2 TP fake setup I'm planning

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:33 PM

no he should

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 02:33 PM

I maintain that wolves shouldn't try cc a fletcher

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:33 PM

that's the beauty of it

The First AI 24-May-21 02:33 PM

wait now I'm lost

Lizard Representative I maintain that wolves shouldn't try cc a fletcher

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:33 PM

obviously

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:33 PM

The one question is why as PW did prophet check luffy

For real

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:33 PM

yea

why?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:33 PM

Like it was pretty easy to BS

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:33 PM

there was no reason as a fake AT claim?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:34 PM

yeah we thought he was LWa/Wa at that point

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:34 PM

could've just said luffy is not threat

Heir to the Milky Way no he should

The First AI 24-May-21 02:34 PM

Oh I see

But that would bus their own wolf

I can see that in a 1 TP fake-claim setup (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:34 PM

Wolves couldn't afford to bus really

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Wolves couldn't afford to bus really

The First AI 24-May-21 02:35 PM

They definitely can afford to bus

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:35 PM

Unless regular wolf was being bussed

The First AI 24-May-21 02:35 PM

in order to gain power

It's better to gain voting power than to see your whole team get picked off one by one

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:35 PM

see this is what i meant when i said wolves made a lot of mistakes that just added up + wolves weren't having a lead, and no one rose to the occasion

The First AI 24-May-21 02:35 PM

I think we're thinking of two different wolf strategies LoG

I think you're thinking of trying to befriend TS and have a wolf confirm him, in order to make that wolf trustable

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:36 PM

wait so how many vials did ES have?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:36 PM

Also wolves couldn't say I shouldn't lead as there was no way I wasn't town

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:36 PM

in the end?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:36 PM

2

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:36 PM

why

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:36 PM

2

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:36 PM

hosts confirmed it was 3

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:36 PM

idk

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:37 PM

ES was heavily underpowered this game

The First AI I think you're thinking of trying to befriend TS and have a wolf confirm him, in order to make that wolf trustable

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:37 PM

while at the same time another wolf ccs hooker

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:37 PM

2 vials, no UA to help, no team mate

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:37 PM

guess hosts gave me misinformation then

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Also wolves couldn't say I shouldn't lead as there was no way I wasn't town

The First AI 24-May-21 02:37 PM

Wolves would of course be forced to have you lead for that round

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:37 PM

weird

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:37 PM

Isn't it possible to have prophet check ts as a threat to get him lynched while a fellow wolf claims tp

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:37 PM

✅ Attempting to promote you, The Last Real Human!

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:37 PM

Like another hooker

The First AI 24-May-21 02:37 PM

but you could trust Ts due to lack of TP ccs

which allowed the strategy you two formed

which ultimately won town the game

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:38 PM

And kill ethan before he becomes reporter

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 02:38 PM

if i had 3 i would have made more moves

The First AI 24-May-21 02:38 PM

It's so hard for you to lead if there's multiple TP claims

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 02:38 PM

but wolfs not killing town confirmed makes it hard to pla

The First AI but you could trust Ts due to lack of TP ccs

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:38 PM

that's the only reason we did the secretive strat

with a TP cc we'd have to played completely differently

The Cute Robot Servant 24-May-21 02:40 PM

if wolfs had hit more town confirmed or trusted i would have been able to make better plays but the fact i could not predict who they would kill made it hard

Commander of the 7th Fleet I will, but not just that, anything

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:40 PM

@The Last Real Human @Commander of the 7th Fleet @Heir to the Milky Way I mean, just read #🧫_🥽 and tell me I'm wrong to sus that as wolf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:41 PM

yeah kinda sus

The First AI 24-May-21 02:41 PM

I'm sorry

that looks sus

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:41 PM

I really wanted to kick prophet out of that cc and share it with Ts before I died

The First AI 24-May-21 02:41 PM

Don't ever say "I'm tentative" during claiming

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:41 PM

but I thought I got the message across

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:41 PM

we did believe Dennis over Prophet bc of your info iirc

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:41 PM

true

it's kinda sus

not too sus, but sus enough

The First AI 24-May-21 02:42 PM

would you ever do that as town though?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 02:42 PM

idts

The First AI 24-May-21 02:42 PM

Let's see I'm AT

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:42 PM

Like you would fake claim as AT

Just say runner or something

The First AI 24-May-21 02:43 PM

Exactly

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:43 PM

Only wolf that's scared of getting caught

wouldn't claim

The First AI 24-May-21 02:43 PM

don't say "I'm too scared of claiming"

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:43 PM

Unless there is WP or Infected

The First AI 24-May-21 02:43 PM

No town does this, because it's a clear sign of a TP role

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon Like you would fake claim as AT

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:43 PM

I just refrained from fake claiming at all

The First AI 24-May-21 02:43 PM

and since no town will make it that blatent

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:43 PM

Because then you get infected if wolf thinks you are faking

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:43 PM

And then when you said you could prove yourself, I was like might as well wait till then

The First AI 24-May-21 02:43 PM

it's only a wolf doing that

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:44 PM

Bob was a random person at that point

He could have been wolf

So claiming AT to a wolf is obviously bad

The First AI 24-May-21 02:44 PM

of course

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:44 PM

So I just didn't

The First AI 24-May-21 02:44 PM

You would fake claim a different role though

Imagine your AT

and Bob is wolf

what is Bob going to think after that interaction

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:44 PM

Why is V2G3 worth 0.5 @The Last Real Human ?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:44 PM

he's going to think you're a very strong role

because a weaker role would just auto claim

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:45 PM

I probably would have if bob didn't say he was going to prove himself

But since he could I was like I'll just wait

But I see your point about fake claiming runner first

Commander of the 7th Fleet I probably would have if bob didn't say he was going to prove himself

The First AI 24-May-21 02:45 PM

You already went on that route of "I'm going to wait to fake-claim" with your initial line (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:45 PM

I'll always try fake TM where I can

The First AI 24-May-21 02:45 PM

If Bob didn't say that even, you'd still be in trouble.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Why is V2G3 worth 0.5 @The Last Real Human ?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:46 PM

probably because of all the new roles

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:46 PM

As wolf or town

The First AI You already went on that route of "I'm going to wait to fake-claim" with your initial line (edited)

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:46 PM

I don't know what you mean

The Last Real Human probably because of all the new roles

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:46 PM

Ah makes sense

The First AI 24-May-21 02:46 PM

I mean the "I'm always tentative to claim"

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:46 PM

I am ahah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:46 PM

Well i fake claimed TC

As TI

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:46 PM

It protects me no matter what role I am if people know I never claim straight away

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:47 PM

Always assert dominance and claim TG

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:47 PM

I think runners and macho claims would make them think im reverse psyching them

Commander of the 7th Fleet It protects me no matter what role I am if people know I never claim straight away

The First AI 24-May-21 02:47 PM

This only works if you never claim straight away as a TM role

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:47 PM

So i go for a humble TC, bc wolves would probs go for someone else with TK and TI in list

The First AI 24-May-21 02:47 PM

if that's true, the interaction is better

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:47 PM

I don't ever claim early regardless of what I am

The First AI 24-May-21 02:47 PM

ok then it's not as bad as I initially thought

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:47 PM

But ig I never interacted with scum lol

Kruthers didn't even claim to me

The First AI 24-May-21 02:48 PM

it's actually probably just unfortunate then

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:48 PM

In this case it didn't help because you guys don't know that

But I have to set the precedent somehow

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:48 PM

Gotta set the precedent when you're actually town

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:48 PM

If you are TC and get a macho instantly cc them tell them not to claim and spread they are a TI or TK

1

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon Gotta set the precedent when you're actually town

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:48 PM

Unfortunately that was not my choice

1

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:48 PM

Get them attacked and find a wolf

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:48 PM

TC?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Tc

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Town Crier | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Town Crier knows another townsfolks's role at the start of the game. Details The Town Crier will be told the role and identity of one other arbitrary person from the Townsfolk team at the start of the game. This information is one-directional. The role given is not under the influence of any other powers, and therefore is completely reliable.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Town crier

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Yeah how do we make it so that the "hey im ti" wouldn't be too obvious

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Ahhh I see

Child of the Stars Well i fake claimed TC

The First AI 24-May-21 02:49 PM

I thought for a good second that was a clever fake wolf claim from you

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Yeah good plan

The First AI 24-May-21 02:49 PM

As you were going to go for the "I got Ethan as town" route

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Smh

Child of the Stars Yeah how do we make it so that the "hey im ti" wouldn't be too obvious

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:49 PM

Apparently just do what I did, it seems wolfy

The First AI 24-May-21 02:49 PM

~~honestly did not trust you until that CC~~

and even then I was like, wtf would they trust Arch as Town Crier

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:50 PM

Idk but personally as actual TC I wouldn't reveal the person I know to anyone else

The First AI 24-May-21 02:50 PM

it depends on the role

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:50 PM

2x AT claims was what confirmed arch

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:50 PM

Just say I already contact them

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 02:50 PM

so uh tldr everyone hates this game or do i understand this criticism wrong?

The First AI 24-May-21 02:50 PM

part of revealing early is to protect yourself

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:50 PM

Lmao

The First AI 24-May-21 02:50 PM

because if your target dies early

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:50 PM

I enjoyed it

The First AI 24-May-21 02:50 PM

you're in hot water

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 02:50 PM

awesome

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:51 PM

The game was good, just it could have been played better by wolves

Earth-Preservation President so uh tldr everyone hates this game or do i understand this criticism wrong?

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 02:51 PM

I liked it, I perhaps just got unlucky

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:51 PM

I don't understand why I was told ES had 3 vials but ultimately it didn't matter

The First AI 24-May-21 02:51 PM

Personally wish I could have interacted more with the game

but was fun

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:51 PM

Like not cc'ing TP was a mistake

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:51 PM

sorry about that Wyatt

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 02:51 PM

i made this list thinking ES would have a much bigger impact on everyone

The Last Real Human sorry about that Wyatt

The First AI 24-May-21 02:51 PM

Just an unfortunate roll of a role

legit the best strategy for me was to follow town

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:51 PM

Shouldve tallied how many roles can infect

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:52 PM

the amount on town side was fine

wolves should've probably had a saboteur or something tho

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:52 PM

Is there a compulsive visitor role or smth, basically citizens who can visit lol

The First AI 24-May-21 02:52 PM

~~hey it was better than that despot game~~

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:52 PM

un attacked scared wolf

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:52 PM

I wasn't going to be infected after D1 except by direct infection

Child of the Stars Is there a compulsive visitor role or smth, basically citizens who can visit lol

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:52 PM

Ranger, Huntress, Assistant can visit without doing anything

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:52 PM

Which could have resulted in me jay and kruthers at endgame

And kruthers wouldn't infect me

The First AI 24-May-21 02:53 PM

@Child of the Stars I'm actually curious

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:53 PM

Maybe a witch would have been good

The First AI 24-May-21 02:53 PM

I might go for that strat in the future

not as a town but as a wolf

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:53 PM

but would jay have known if kruthers was es

The First AI 24-May-21 02:53 PM

and see how things plan out

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:53 PM

It can infect 3 people with potion

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:53 PM

i doubt

so

The First AI 24-May-21 02:53 PM

wait

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:53 PM

Which strat? TC?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 02:53 PM

Town Crier | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Town Crier knows another townsfolks's role at the start of the game. Details The Town Crier will be told the role and identity of one other arbitrary person from the Townsfolk team at the start of the game. This information is one-directional. The role given is not under the influence of any other powers, and therefore is completely reliable.

The First AI 24-May-21 02:53 PM

wait nevermind

forgot you also got role

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Well u can fake it as either town or wolf tbh

Yeah

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:54 PM

and jay would have teamed with scum more than town

The First AI 24-May-21 02:54 PM

it's much harder to fake as wolf

because faking it as wolf makes you look kinda scum

Party Planet and jay would have teamed with scum more than town

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Why would jay team with es?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:54 PM

I went for it as town bc it would make me look like less of a target

Earth-Preservation President so uh tldr everyone hates this game or do i understand this criticism wrong?

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:54 PM

If it's me kruthers and jay left

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Why would jay team with es?

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:54 PM

i dont think jay would have known that kruthers was es

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Yeh true

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:54 PM

No real opinion on the game here

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:54 PM

You need to know a towns role

Party Planet i dont think jay would have known that kruthers was es

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Oh

Child of the Stars I went for it as town bc it would make me look like less of a target

The First AI 24-May-21 02:54 PM

Honestly I'd reveal it if it was a TM role

or something like Huntress

anything else

I'd keep private

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:55 PM

Only to town leads, sure

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:55 PM

I did really like the theme actually, I was looking forward to that part

The First AI 24-May-21 02:55 PM

no I mean publically

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:55 PM

Why?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:55 PM

I expected to die early

So pinned my backstory in my sc

The First AI 24-May-21 02:56 PM

Because you don't know who town leads are at the start of the game

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 02:56 PM

Idk wolves will narrow down the weaker townies and have higher chance targetting stronger roles

The First AI 24-May-21 02:56 PM

I would want my TC person to become mayor

Party Planet 24-May-21 02:56 PM

heh rp got destroyed by people just caring about winning and not about the atmosphere and situation we were trying to provide

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:56 PM

Trickster is such a good role

The First AI 24-May-21 02:56 PM

and become that town lead

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:56 PM

wolves have no reason to kill because it's not good for lynch

so it's actually a really bad target for them

but it's also confirmable

I think Trickster is the weakest easily confirmable role

which makes it very useful for town

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:57 PM

Trickster is one of my new favourite roles

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:57 PM

ironically it was created to be a weak TM

forgot about the confirming thing

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:57 PM

Lol

The First AI 24-May-21 02:58 PM

Can be countered by adding a role that makes you appear to vote when in actuality you don't

on the wolf side

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:58 PM

Trickster wolf when made a full role will make trickster less confirmed

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:58 PM

then Trickster's current functionality is pointless

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Trickster wolf when made a full role will make trickster less confirmed

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:58 PM

I'm not sure how serious that suggestion is

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 02:58 PM

I like the idea

But don't have it as a role to start

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:59 PM

wait

The First AI 24-May-21 02:59 PM

Wait I guess trickster's like a worse bartender

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:59 PM

bc hosts gave me wrong info about ES I did the math wrong

The First AI 24-May-21 02:59 PM

so trickster doesn't really need a nerf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 02:59 PM

for the ES PR I put one vial per 6 players

which was correct with what I was told

this one is like 1 vial per 8(?) players

The First AI 24-May-21 02:59 PM

Speaking of confirming people

Loy, Conquerer of the Moon 24-May-21 02:59 PM

The niche case is trickster prevents wolf mayor from winning a turn early

The First AI 24-May-21 03:00 PM

I really liked the original ranger role when could change infinitely

really led to a fun ranger/bard game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:00 PM

yeah that's why it was changed

The First AI 24-May-21 03:00 PM

~~You didn't like my strat~~

How many town that's auto confirmable are there left?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:01 PM

idk

The First AI 24-May-21 03:01 PM

I know there's bartender and trickster

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:01 PM

a lot

The First AI 24-May-21 03:01 PM

any others?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:01 PM

well whispers

and reveals (edited)

Barber, RK reveal

Grandma, Stalker, Innkeeper whisper

Grandma & Stalker also via poll

and TK are confirmable via Coroner

The First AI 24-May-21 03:01 PM

Innkeeper can be faked

I mean like roles that can't be faked at all

The First AI Innkeeper can be faked

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:02 PM

Can't be faked really

The First AI 24-May-21 03:02 PM

Fake it with wolves and dead people

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:02 PM

When a confirmed town asks you to add them and you don't then you are outed

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:02 PM

Database error. Could not find role innkeepr!

Innkeeper | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Innkeeper may invite a guest to the inn. Details Each night, the Innkeeper may add a player to the inn. The Innkeeper can anonymously talk to all the guests of the inn. Adding a guest is immediate effect. During each day, the Innkeeper may choose to clear the inn. Clearing the inn removes all guests and messages and is an end effect. If the Innkeeper dies the inn is cleared.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion When a confirmed town asks you to add them and you don't then you are outed

The First AI 24-May-21 03:03 PM

The Innkeeper fake setup requires no confirmed town (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:03 PM

Yeah

Which is hard

The First AI 24-May-21 03:03 PM

yes

but also really rewarding if done properly

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:04 PM

It's not a sustainable claim

The First AI 24-May-21 03:04 PM

it's a very risky claim that will either flop or win wolves the game

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:04 PM

Yeah

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:06 PM

in s5g1 a wolf claimed Barber

(and live won)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:06 PM

Same in Os5c

The First AI 24-May-21 03:07 PM

I have some serious questions about town that game

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:07 PM

Because I was left alone as town lead in my first game

And Luffy lynched barber cc

The First AI I have some serious questions about town that game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:07 PM

s5g1 or os5c

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:07 PM

Because other barber claimed first

The First AI 24-May-21 03:07 PM

both

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:07 PM

s5g1 wolves won D2

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:07 PM

How

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:07 PM

you can read the gamelog

#deleted-channel

The First AI 24-May-21 03:07 PM

ok maybe not that game then

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:08 PM

everything was perfect

The First AI 24-May-21 03:08 PM

the other one though

how does a fake barber claim live that long without anyone trying to confirm them

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:08 PM

if you fake Barber you need to be prepared to win really fast

in s5g1 town killed 2 non wolves with TK and 2 non wolves via lynch

The First AI 24-May-21 03:09 PM

oof

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:12 PM

F

imo we need some wolf roles that could pretend to be confirmed town

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:14 PM

Old wisp could technically fake barber

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:14 PM

I dont think that version was ever in a role book

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:14 PM

Oh

There was the immediate night one

The immediate day one

Then end day one

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:15 PM

yeah

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:15 PM

Immediate day is the best one

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:15 PM

Evil Scientist | Solo Killing - Disease Team Basics The Evil Scientist has invented a new disease, lethal and highly contagious. Their desire is to kill off all other players. Details They start off with vials of a substrate containing the disease. They have one vial for every six players in the game (rounded). During every night, they may use one of their vials to contaminate another player. Contaminated players will be affected by the disease. If the Evil Scientist attempts to contaminate an already contaminated player, they are informed, but the vial is still used up. Contaminating a player is an end-night ability. Contaminated players are contagious, and remains so till their death. Any player who visits or is visited by a contagious player is also immediately contaminated. Any type of action (target, attack, investigation, etc) is counted as a visit. At the start of the second night after being contaminated the player is informed that they are contaminated. At the end of the second night after being contaminated the player will die (cannot be avoided, not counted as an attack). ------ Is this version better?

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:16 PM

Good on bart but I still can't believe you guys believed him and killed LoG like that. Wolves killing him anyway was just luck

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:16 PM

we didn't

as I said repeatedly we were already gonna kill you

you lied to Ethan

also you refused to contact Bart for us

(and told me to stay at home)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:18 PM

Jur

The Last Real Human Evil Scientist | Solo Killing - Disease Team Basics The Evil Scientist has invented a new disease, lethal and highly contagious. Their desire is to kill off all other players. Details They start off with vials of a substrate containing the disease. They have one vial for every six players in the game (rounded). During every night, they may use one of their vials to contaminate another player. Contaminated players will be affected by the disease. If the Evil Scientist attempts to contaminate an already contaminated player, they are informed, but the vial is still used up. Contaminating a player is an end-night ability. Contaminated players are contagious, and remains so till their death. Any player who visits or is visited by a contagious player is also immediately contaminated. Any type of action (target, attack, investigation, etc) is counted as a visit. At the start of the second night after being contaminated the player is informed that they are contaminated. At the end of the second night after being contaminated the player will die (cannot be avoided, not counted as an attack). ------ Is this version better?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:18 PM

idt this changes anything, does it? it's definitely written a bit more clearly though

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:18 PM

Database error. Could not find role jurer!

Juror | Townsfolk Group Basics The Jurors have a secret channel where they can communicate among themselves securely. During even nights, the jury votes to investigate a player. If the jury successfuly investigates a non-town role, it is announced. Details The Juror is part of the jury. During even nights, the jury can vote to investigate a player. The jury recieves the result of the investigation at the end of the night. If the result of the investigation shows a non-town role, the role is announced publicly. The jury is disbanded if there are 1 or less Jurors left; this means the jury is active only if atleast two Jurors are alive. Any member of the jury, even if they lose their role, can still vote on who to investigate. One of the Jurors that has voted for the jury's target is randomly chosen as the investigator, who performs the investigations. The jury is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. These effects are seen from the investigator's perspective.

Heir to the Milky Way idt this changes anything, does it? it's definitely written a bit more clearly though

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:18 PM

there's some clarifications it doesn't have rn, and it becomes an end effect

and infecting is renamed to contaminating

The Last Real Human you lied to Ethan

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:18 PM

with no follow up..? Like in what world would someone give two opposing statements to two trusted townies, and in one of them the conversation last exactly one min.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:19 PM

Jury seems sort of weak

Also it's missing a space

Void Patrol Representative with no follow up..? Like in what world would someone give two opposing statements to two trusted townies, and in one of them the conversation last exactly one min.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:19 PM

no clue but it was suspicious along with the other things

The Last Real Human also you refused to contact Bart for us

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:19 PM

Because it was too late anyway. I explained this to you, logically. Just like when I asked you to stay home

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:19 PM

It says atleast two jurors

Void Patrol Representative Because it was too late anyway. I explained this to you, logically. Just like when I asked you to stay home

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:20 PM

the too late thing didn't really make sense

even if a wolf had already contacted him we may have gained info from that

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Jury seems sort of weak

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:20 PM

they have the power of bakers, which is pretty strong in itself.

The Last Real Human there's some clarifications it doesn't have rn, and it becomes an end effect

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:20 PM

ah yes, it does change to end night but other than that, it just clarifies things we already accepted, but weren't in the old description

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:20 PM

oh and the amount of vials goes up

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:20 PM

oh

yes

Void Patrol Representative they have the power of bakers, which is pretty strong in itself.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:21 PM

Bakers are stronger as they know if one becomes wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:21 PM

yea this is much better

also avoids the infected wolf confusion

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:21 PM

I originally did the six vial thing because Stein told me that games above 16 players have 3 vials

so I calculated that six players is closest to that definition (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Bakers are stronger as they know if one becomes wolf

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:21 PM

that can't be the only reason... not all baker games have an infected wolf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:21 PM

I still have no idea why hosts gave me wrong info, but okay

The Last Real Human so I calculated that six players is closest to that definition (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:21 PM

oh i see

The Last Real Human even if a wolf had already contacted him we may have gained info from that

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:21 PM

fine ok I get this point

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:21 PM

I probably missed that, the vial thing

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:21 PM

Stein told me

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:21 PM

The wrong info

Oh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:22 PM

that above 16 is 3 vials

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:22 PM

Hm

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:22 PM

that's what my calculation was

Void Patrol Representative that can't be the only reason... not all baker games have an infected wolf

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:22 PM

imho jury shouldn't be disbanded at 1 only if 0 people with jury role remain

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:22 PM

I calculated how many players per vial

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:22 PM

I must say it makes more sense, ES is incredibly underpowered

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:22 PM

if 17 players is 3 vials

yeah while I don't think this is a "larger" game, 3 vials would've made more sense

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:22 PM

I thought ES would have more effect but it doesn't really

It's mostly what made the list eh

There's no sense of rush in it, while ES should cause a bit of panic because of limited time

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion imho jury shouldn't be disbanded at 1 only if 0 people with jury role remain

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:23 PM

1 person jury is literally a mellowed fortune teller. They have to keep more than one person alive to keep running

The Last Real Human BOT 24-May-21 03:24 PM

~~url~~ ES rewrite PR

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:24 PM

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The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:24 PM

right

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:24 PM

uhhhh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:24 PM

https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/269

Update evil scientist by McTsts · Pull Request #269 · McTsts/Werewo...

Fixes #223

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:24 PM

URL broken thing

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:24 PM

yeah

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:24 PM

it doesnt work when the game is ended fsr

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:24 PM

ah

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:24 PM

Look at the cult. Even if you have 4 cult members and cult leader dies, those four people do nothing. Thats their vulnerability, this is the jury's. @Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion

Werewolves Bot C Juror | Townsfolk Group Basics The Jurors have a secret channel where they can communicate among themselves securely. During even nights, the jury votes to investigate a player. If the jury successfuly investigates a non-town role, it is announced. Details The Juror is part of the jury. During even nights, the jury can vote to investigate a player. The jury recieves the result of the investigation at the end of the night. If the result of the investigation shows a non-town role, the role is announced publicly. The jury is disbanded if there are 1 or less Jurors left; this means the jury is active only if atleast two Jurors are alive. Any member of the jury, even if they lose their role, can still vote on who to investigate. One of the Jurors that has voted for the jury's target is randomly chosen as the investigator, who performs the investigations. The jury is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. These effects are seen from the investigator's perspective.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:25 PM

you know this gives me an idea we should have some sort of mixed groups not in the butchers sense, but in a different sense so the idea is, <some number> of all players (town wolf solo ua, randomly selected) are added to the group the group has some sort of group power and the group gets disbanded when <some number> of the group members die

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:25 PM

huh (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:25 PM

If jury only disbands at 0, theres no reason for them to not just reveal as jury d0

Heir to the Milky Way you know this gives me an idea we should have some sort of mixed groups not in the butchers sense, but in a different sense so the idea is, <some number> of all players (town wolf solo ua, randomly selected) are added to the group the group has some sort of group power and the group gets disbanded when <some number> of the group members die

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:25 PM

I had an idea for a TG who choses who is in the group

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:25 PM

Uh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:25 PM

can we in the future maybe avoid limited roles in partial games unless they're explicitly mentioned?

because the proper roles have pretty much all their edge cases resolved

Earth-Preservation President If jury only disbands at 0, theres no reason for them to not just reveal as jury d0

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:26 PM

explain?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:26 PM

but this and the last game show that limited roles have issues that aren't great if they come up in partial games

The Last Real Human can we in the future maybe avoid limited roles in partial games unless they're explicitly mentioned?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:26 PM

yea i agree, we should only use limited roles in revealed role lists, not partial ones

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:26 PM

Well immediate just yelling "Yo I'm Jury" is pretty easy

People can just check, claim etc

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:26 PM

but they can't or they'll be disbanded

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:27 PM

If juror is meta killed N1 it just makes the jury unfun if there were 2 to start with

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:27 PM

^

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:27 PM

Yes but Ethan said "disband at 0"

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:27 PM

ah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:27 PM

thats what im commenting on

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:27 PM

oh

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:27 PM

Jury atm feels like a large game role

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:27 PM

It is

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:27 PM

yes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion If juror is meta killed N1 it just makes the jury unfun if there were 2 to start with

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:27 PM

which is why they shouldn't start with 2

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:27 PM

Just like bartender

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:27 PM

we should have a large game with hags and jury

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Jury atm feels like a large game role

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:27 PM

precisely

The Last Real Human we should have a large game with hags and jury

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:27 PM

yes!

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:27 PM

Database error. Could not find role hag!

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:27 PM

what

what is hag

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:28 PM

UA

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:28 PM

Database error. Could not find role hags!

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:28 PM

???

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:28 PM

We can't test large game roles in VIP

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:28 PM

can you look on github or should I copy it over?

Party Planet 24-May-21 03:28 PM

its not a role

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:28 PM

https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/pull/340

Hags - Unique UA Suggestion by McTsts · Pull Request #340 · McTsts/...

This is a somewhat complicated idea for a unique UA. I was thinking we could have a UA that originally can win with everyone and just need to survive, but every time a team "wrongs&quo...

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:28 PM

It's a draft atm

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:28 PM

i can copy it over if you want

Goddess of Venus 24-May-21 03:28 PM

m

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:28 PM

but that's the PR

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:28 PM

that turns against other alignments and ultimately can turn into solo

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion We can't test large game roles in VIP

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:28 PM

what about an off season game

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:29 PM

more offseason???

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:29 PM

we only have 1 left

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:29 PM

we have so many roles, lets work with them

Void Patrol Representative what about an off season game

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:29 PM

Issue is if it goes bad in main some people get mad

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:30 PM

We already have loads of roles to work with, even limited

Let's do something with them

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Issue is if it goes bad in main some people get mad

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:30 PM

so we can never test roles that only work well in big games?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:30 PM

ooof i love hags

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:30 PM

constant offseason is tiring and confusing, normal lists can be interesting as well

Heir to the Milky Way ooof i love hags

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:30 PM

me too!

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:30 PM

this has to be the best role idea i've seen in a loong while

please add it

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:30 PM

Have we used medium since it was changed?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:30 PM

I have it as a draft still because I wanted a third one maybe

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Have we used medium since it was changed?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:31 PM

nope

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:31 PM

Medium | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Medium may ask the dead players one question. Details During each night the Medium has access to a second secret channel, where they can ask a question, once day starts the channel is locked, and a Yes/No poll is created. All dead participants are able to vote on it during the day. Of course, there can be members of all teams in the dead participants. The question needs to be one simple yes/no question without any hidden meaning to it. Not voting as a dead participant should not give the Medium any information. Once the day ends, the poll is closed, and the Medium gains access to the second secret channel again.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:31 PM

because you kinda need one hag for every team

or at least one hag for every team that can kill

so most games will need 2-4

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Have we used medium since it was changed?

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:31 PM

how was it changed

The Last Real Human I have it as a draft still because I wanted a third one maybe

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:31 PM

a third kind of hag?

Goddess of Venus 24-May-21 03:31 PM

Idea: A game where everyone does the commands themselves, essesntially removing the need for hosts. A single small mistake is allowed but if you cheat on purpose, you're banned

Void Patrol Representative how was it changed

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:31 PM

poll no longer shows who voted what

Heir to the Milky Way a third kind of hag?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:31 PM

yeah

Void Patrol Representative how was it changed

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:31 PM

Anonymous poll

Goddess of Venus 24-May-21 03:31 PM

Good idea right

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:32 PM

maybe an investigative spell that can check the team of a player?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Anonymous poll

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:32 PM

ohh cool ok

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:32 PM

I wasn't sure if that's useful enough

Goddess of Venus 24-May-21 03:32 PM

aura..?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:32 PM

since it checks team, it's only affected by strong disguises

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:32 PM

oh

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:32 PM

Atm it's protect and kill

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:32 PM

does hag count specific solos or general solo alignment?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:32 PM

wait where did I post that invest graph

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:32 PM

Err

The Last Real Human I wasn't sure if that's useful enough

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:32 PM

it is IMO if one team has wronged you, you would want to reach out to other teams right?

The Last Real Human wait where did I post that invest graph

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:32 PM

Minis?

Or GitHub

Earth-Preservation President does hag count specific solos or general solo alignment?

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:33 PM

specific I think.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:33 PM

it doesn't need to be particularly strong imo

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:33 PM

interesting

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:33 PM

ah found it

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/24660095/117663158-a1a8a580-b1a0-11eb-95bf-217c99efe897.png

Earth-Preservation President does hag count specific solos or general solo alignment?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:33 PM

specific i'd guess

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:33 PM

Alignment is indeed only affected by strong disguise

Heir to the Milky Way it is IMO if one team has wronged you, you would want to reach out to other teams right?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:33 PM

yeah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:34 PM

so if www is the cause of a wolfpoll kill, it can still win with all other alignments and even another solo if its ingame

The Last Real Human https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/24660095/117663158-a1a8a580-b1a0-11eb-95bf-217c99efe897.png

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:34 PM

what's current alignment?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:34 PM

I like how reaper is strongest Invest atm

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:34 PM

and why is tanner on there?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:34 PM

cupid can change the alignment of wolves (edited)

tanner has an invest power

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion I like how reaper is strongest Invest atm

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:34 PM

....what?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:34 PM

"one of your targets is part of the wolfpack"

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:34 PM

Tanner | Werewolf Power Basics Each day, the Tanner may disguise up to two players as roles of the Tanner’s choosing. Details Each day, the Tanner can weakly disguise two players; the night after, to roles affected by weak disguises, their roles will appear to be what the Tanner has disguised the players as. The Tanner may disguise themself. Disguising players is an immediate effect. If the tanner disguises a player who is part of the wolfpack, the tanner is informed by the Hosts that “At least one of the players you tanned today is part of the wolfpack”. If the Tanner dies, the assigned players will keep their disguises for the night. All players lose their disguise at the end of the night. The Tanner is not a lycan, is not part of the wolfpack, and is not affected by strong disguises.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:34 PM

If the tanner disguises a player who is part of the wolfpack, the tanner is informed by the Hosts that “At least one of the players you tanned today is part of the wolfpack”.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:34 PM

OH

Heir to the Milky Way ....what?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:34 PM

It knows your last role you had

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:34 PM

discord is messing up gifs

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:34 PM

wow

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:34 PM

the fuck

Earth-Preservation President discord is messing up gifs

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:35 PM

Lmfao

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion It knows your last role you had

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:35 PM

ah yes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion It knows your last role you had

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:35 PM

the dead roles I think

Earth-Preservation President discord is messing up gifs

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:35 PM

LOL WHAT

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:35 PM

Reaper > reporter

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:35 PM

i have no idea what discord is doing

Earth-Preservation President discord is messing up gifs

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:35 PM

wait WHAT? LMAO

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Reaper > reporter

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:35 PM

indeed

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:35 PM

what would the invest hag get for UA?

just UA?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:35 PM

yea

UA doesn't matter to hag right

Heir to the Milky Way UA doesn't matter to hag right

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:36 PM

For finding other hags it does

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:36 PM

oh

right

hmmmmm

The Last Real Human cupid can change the alignment of wolves (edited)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:36 PM

oh and ofc cupid itself can change alignment

The Last Real Human what would the invest hag get for UA?

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:36 PM

I feel like the options should be: "Townsfolk", "Wolfpack" and "Neither"

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:36 PM

but that's bad

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:36 PM

thats bad

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:36 PM

Hag could become Pyro aligned

or whatever

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:36 PM

yea

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:36 PM

rightt

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:37 PM

maybe there's two solos and one solo wronged them

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:37 PM

maybe the general aligments

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:37 PM

yeah just the team

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:37 PM

idk if specific solo alignments would work

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:37 PM

Maybe get their wincon

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:37 PM

but it would make sense to list solos specifically

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:37 PM

Pyro isn't solo aligned, it's pyro aligned

WWW is solo aligned

Earth-Preservation President idk if specific solo alignments would work

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:38 PM

general solo is bad because there could be multiple solo

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:38 PM

theyre solo team pyro aligned

yeah

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:38 PM

same thing

just fancier name

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:38 PM

its just a small clarification

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:38 PM

their category is solo, but their alignment isn't

name suggestions?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:38 PM

calling pyro not solo can be confusing

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:38 PM

ok how about it checking current alignment then?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:38 PM

Like give the bag the wincon of the player they check

hag*

Earth-Preservation President calling pyro not solo can be confusing

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:38 PM

yeah solo team pyro makes sense (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Like give the bag the wincon of the player they check

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:39 PM

that's be a new type of check entirely

current alignment works no?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:39 PM

yeah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:39 PM

alignment works

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:39 PM

What about a disguising hag?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:39 PM

then it'd be unaffected by disguises which makes sense

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:39 PM

hags are UA or solo and have no reason to start giving other the info straight away

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion What about a disguising hag?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:40 PM

doesn't really make sense I think

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion What about a disguising hag?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:40 PM

pretty useless IMHO

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:40 PM

you know what we need? A host hag. Has access to all the channels

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:40 PM

clairvoyant is already used

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:40 PM

Well not really since it can make wolves innocent if they're helping them and town look evil if town wronged them

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:40 PM

Prophetic? Perceptive?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:40 PM

prophetic

current alignment is completely unaffected by disguises, and for the hags it means that it'd tell you which all teams the hags can win with, which obviously confirms a hag

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:42 PM

wdym?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:43 PM

BTW what about stuff like a wolf kill, but with a www in the wolf team? ig it'd be same as everything else - one random person does the attack? (edited)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:43 PM

yes

there'd be a chance for the WWW to wrong the hags then

The Last Real Human there'd be a chance for the WWW to wrong the hags then

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:43 PM

thats interesting

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:43 PM

It would out www too

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:44 PM

pack wouldn't know who the attacker was according to current rules

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:44 PM

they could if voting went awry

The Last Real Human wdym?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:44 PM

so if a hag uses the investigative spell on another hag, what would they get? if it checked role alignment, it'd be unaligned but if they checked current alignment, and the hags have already been wronged by someone, then you'd get only those alignments that haven't wronged the hags yet, rather than unaligned, so it'd confirm hags

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:45 PM

oh yeah

I think that's fine?

The Last Real Human pack wouldn't know who the attacker was according to current rules

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:45 PM

didn't we decide this should be changed, so that in group attacks, the group is informed of who did the attack?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:45 PM

yes

The Last Real Human I think that's fine?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:45 PM

yea i think it's fine

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:45 PM

but it hasn't been changed

The Last Real Human but it hasn't been changed

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:46 PM

ah

Heir to the Milky Way so if a hag uses the investigative spell on another hag, what would they get? if it checked role alignment, it'd be unaligned but if they checked current alignment, and the hags have already been wronged by someone, then you'd get only those alignments that haven't wronged the hags yet, rather than unaligned, so it'd confirm hags

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:46 PM

Unless chef gave the alignments of all alive waiters too for consistency

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Unless chef gave the alignments of all alive waiters too for consistency

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:46 PM

yea ofc chef would give alignments of all living waiters

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:46 PM

no

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:46 PM

..?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:46 PM

chef doesn't win with the waiter teams

they're still unaligned

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:46 PM

wait what?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

I wouldn't consider it a win condition change

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:47 PM

oh

hmm

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

because then would just lose

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:47 PM

wait huh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

but Chef is killed instead

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:47 PM

wait this brings an important question wrt oracle

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:47 PM

how are you guys thinking the alignment check works?

i dont get it

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

also Chef is UM

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:47 PM

how does oracle work?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

Hag is UA

UM is Unaligned

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:47 PM

Oracle | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Details Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same alignment or not. This result is not affected by disguises. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other, solo roles on opposing teams do not.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:47 PM

UA can change alignment

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:47 PM

what is "alignment" actually

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:48 PM

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:48 PM

Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other

but do they have same alignment as everyone else

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:48 PM

we should clarify that hags are no longer unaligned when they are wronged

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:48 PM

alignment is townsfolk, wolves, a bunch of different solo classifications and the general "unaligned"

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:48 PM

is multiple alignments even possible

Heir to the Milky Way

Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other

but do they have same alignment as everyone else

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:48 PM

no, theyre classified as "unaligned", others have other alignments

unaligned is an alignment

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:49 PM

huhhhh

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:49 PM

lemme list all alignments, all seperate

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:49 PM

we don't have any role with multiple alignments, do we?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:49 PM

Once a Hag is wronged the remaining Hags are Hag aligned instead of Unaligned.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:49 PM

wait

IMMUNE SURVIVOR?

they're not exactly unaligned

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:50 PM

is UM

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:50 PM

Townsfolk Werewolves Solo - Solo Solo - literally any other kind of solo Unaligned

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:50 PM

UA's can live lose with any team

ES + IS is a win for ES

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:50 PM

yes

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:50 PM

so hags cannot live lose with teams that have wronged them?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:50 PM

they can

Earth-Preservation President Townsfolk Werewolves Solo - Solo Solo - literally any other kind of solo Unaligned

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:50 PM

Solo - Solo Solo - literally any other kind of solo

why isnt this simpler

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:50 PM

then they remain unaligned (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:50 PM

they can live lose

Heir to the Milky Way then they remain unaligned (edited)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:51 PM

right

so my sentence shouldn't be added

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:51 PM

if hags can live lose, they must be unaligned

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:51 PM

and hags can't find other hags

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:51 PM

which means checking a hag with spell gives unaligned

‍♂️

well they can still find other teams though

which is strong enough IMHO

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:51 PM

Even when the Hags win condition is changed, they are still considered Unaligned (unless they turn into Bitter Hags).

Void Patrol Representative

Solo - Solo Solo - literally any other kind of solo

why isnt this simpler

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:51 PM

because it cant be put simpler. All solo teams have different conditions, but they're all solo-aligned (can only win with their team and with everyone else dead/with a specific status effect)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:52 PM

what?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:52 PM

I was thinking about Cupid's Ts, would Cupid + Pryo be too Op if the Pyro's Cupid was immune to the pyro fire like lupine is to wolf kills?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:52 PM

Oracle | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Details Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same alignment or not. This result is not affected by disguises. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other, solo roles on opposing teams do not.

Earth-Preservation President because it cant be put simpler. All solo teams have different conditions, but they're all solo-aligned (can only win with their team and with everyone else dead/with a specific status effect)

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:52 PM

I still dont get it, whats the difference between those two solos

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion I was thinking about Cupid's Ts, would Cupid + Pryo be too Op if the Pyro's Cupid was immune to the pyro fire like lupine is to wolf kills?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:52 PM

this would probably be an addition that makes sense

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:52 PM

solo roles on opposing teams do not

clearly different solo roles have different alignment

(unless they're on same team)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:53 PM

let's add a Flaming Cupid or something

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:53 PM

All solos have different alignments to eachother, but the category is still "solo"

it was an example

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:53 PM

category ≠ alignment

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:53 PM

category isn't alignment

The Last Real Human let's add a Flaming Cupid or something

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:53 PM

Burning passion

Earth-Preservation President Townsfolk Werewolves Solo - Solo Solo - literally any other kind of solo Unaligned

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:53 PM

so this isn't a list of alignments

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:54 PM

it is

i was too lazy to list everything

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:54 PM

?

oh

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:54 PM

Solo Killing Demon (Hell Team) Devil (Hell Team) Pyromancer (Pyro Team) Gray Werewolf White Werewolf Archangel (Heaven Team) Evil Scientist (Disease Team) Wisp (Pyro Team)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:54 PM

lmao

ok

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:54 PM

Solo Miscellaneous Imp (Hell Team) Undead (Underworld Team) Herding Dog (Flock Team) Lab Assistant (Disease Team) Saint (Heaven Team) Zombie (Graveyard Team)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:54 PM

there you ho

go

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:54 PM

sp

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:54 PM

thats the solo alignments

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:54 PM

sp

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:54 PM

Solo Power Flute Apprentice (Flute Team) Flute Player (Flute Team) Vampire (Underworld Team) Ice King (Ice Royals Team) Ice Queen (Ice Royals Team) Plaguebearer (Graveyard Team) Reaper (Nightmare Team) Shepherd (Flock Team)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:54 PM

that too

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:54 PM

Townsfolk Werewolves Solo Hell Solo Pyro Solo Underworld Solo Flute Solo Cupid Solo Disease Solo Nightmare Solo Flock Solo Ice Royals Solo (every Solo has a different alignment) Unaligned (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:55 PM

Solo Disease Solo Flock etc etc

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:55 PM

those are limited

Oh I forgot Solo Cupid

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:55 PM

and have appeared ingame

The Last Real Human those are limited

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:55 PM

Hence why Vera did them in itallics

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:55 PM

so if hag were to check www, they'd get what? Solo, or Solo - WWW, or something else?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:56 PM

Solo

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:56 PM

Solo - Solo

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:56 PM

hmm

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:56 PM

or that

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:56 PM

www is the only solo solo

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:56 PM

no

gww

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:56 PM

oh right

thats also a solo solo

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:56 PM

And erm

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:56 PM

i forgot it existed

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:56 PM

but then imagine if there's two www (say) if oracle compares them, they're different alignments but if hag checks, they're same

Earth-Preservation President www is the only solo solo

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:57 PM

what does solo solo mean

Heir to the Milky Way but then imagine if there's two www (say) if oracle compares them, they're different alignments but if hag checks, they're same

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:57 PM

yeah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:57 PM

Solo Team - Solo Alignment

The only roles classified as such are www and gww

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 03:57 PM

ohhh

I get it now

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:57 PM

maybe assign a random number to every pure solo or something?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:57 PM

what

The Last Real Human yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:57 PM

be a bit inconsistent

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:57 PM

I get the suggestion, but no

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:58 PM

Talking Rock | Solo Basics The Talking Rock cannot vote, cannot kill, and cannot be elected for any position. It is immune to any role changes or abilities being given to it, as well as things like Devil's Wager. The Talking Rock cannot win under any circumstances.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:58 PM

great

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:58 PM

alignment seems weird

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:58 PM

wouldnt 2 www be the same alignment according to oracle?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Talking Rock | Solo Basics The Talking Rock cannot vote, cannot kill, and cannot be elected for any position. It is immune to any role changes or abilities being given to it, as well as things like Devil's Wager. The Talking Rock cannot win under any circumstances.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:58 PM

lmao

Earth-Preservation President wouldnt 2 www be the same alignment according to oracle?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:58 PM

would they

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:58 PM

no

they're on opposing teams

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:58 PM

Theyre both solo solo

yeah i know

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:58 PM

but still different teams

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:58 PM

but they have the same "alignment"

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:58 PM

but theyre solo solo

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 03:59 PM

Oracle | Townsfolk Investigative Basics Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Details Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same alignment or not. This result is not affected by disguises. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Unaligned roles have the same alignment as each other, solo roles on opposing teams do not.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 03:59 PM

solo roles on opposing teams do not.

two WWW's are on opposing teams

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:59 PM

Oh alignment is do they share a wincon - unaligned

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:59 PM

i guess solo solo is a stupid category but it makes sense

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:59 PM

Ig*

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 03:59 PM

in which case the oracle check has more detail than a hag check, despite both being alignment checks? (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 03:59 PM

Not oh

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 03:59 PM

because solo solo are the only ones that are actually solo

(not counting cupid)

Heir to the Milky Way in which case the oracle check has more detail than a hag check, despite both being alignment checks? (edited)

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:00 PM

well oracle doesn't get the raw data

it only gets true/false

so it can never get a true for solo solo

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:00 PM

yeah

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:00 PM

Solo Cupid isn't solo solo as it wins in couple team

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:01 PM

it's a team

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 04:01 PM

Cupids Cupid Cupid Wolf Demonic Cupid Lupine Cupid Undead Cupid Saintly Cupid Zombified Cupid

Cupid Wolf | Unaligned Align - Werewolf Base Alignment Basics The Cupid Wolf is a cupid that has been infected by the infected wolf. Details If turned into a wolf in any way, the cupid turns into an Cupid Wolf instead. The Cupid Wolf works like the cupid, with one exception: The Cupid Wolf's default win condition is to win with the werewolf team. If the lover is on a different team, they will only win when both win conditions are fulfilled. For example, if the couple is Cupid and a citizen, everyone else must die. If the lover is also part of the werewolf team, they belong to the werewolf team and can win together with them. If the lover is unaligned, the couple can either win with the werewolf team or with the lover's win condition.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:01 PM

ah

not listed in the role tho

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:01 PM

i didnt mention solo cupid because cupid + www isnt solo (solo meaning "on your own")

its still classified as such but i was saying how solo solo makes sense because those are actually "on their own" (not counting cupid)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:02 PM

Can wolf who was cupided have a death win with wolves?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:02 PM

only if the cupid becomes cupid wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 04:02 PM

ig it's basically like, idk, what an == check in some programming languages is like ig one checks the value (hag), the other checks if two things are the same object (oracle) makes sense

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 04:02 PM

Database error. Could not find role lupine_cupid!

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:02 PM

what is a lupine cupid

Heir to the Milky Way ig it's basically like, idk, what an == check in some programming languages is like ig one checks the value (hag), the other checks if two things are the same object (oracle) makes sense

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:03 PM

yeah something like that

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 04:03 PM

Lupine Cupid | Unaligned Align - Townsfolk Base Alignment Basics The Lupine Cupid is a cupid whose lover is a member of the werewolf team or wolfpack. Details If the cupid selects a lover from the wolf team or wolfpack, or if their lover joins the wolf team or wolfpack, the cupid turns into a Lupine Cupid. The Lupine Cupid works like the cupid, with a one exception: The Lupine Cupid cannot be killed by the werewolves. If any werewolf or member of the wolfpack attacks the Lupine Cupid the attack fails. Additionally, they are a lycan, but do not join the pack. The Lupine Cupid's win condition is not changed.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:03 PM

you dont need _ or " for $info anymore

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:03 PM

It doesn't have a _ alias

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:03 PM

you can do things like $i lupine cupid now

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:03 PM

oh

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 04:03 PM

neat

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:03 PM

ill add the _ aliases

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:03 PM

why is there a difference between lupine and cupid wolf

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:03 PM

Cupid wolf is wolf aligned

Caused by infected wolf targeting cupid

Lupine Cupid is couple aligned caused by Cupid targeting wolf

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:04 PM

I see..

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:05 PM

Also lupine Cupid is not part of the pack and immune to wolf kills whereas Cupid wolf is part of the pack and not immune

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:05 PM

Lupine Cupid is a small buff to cupid selecting wolf

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:05 PM

I see ok

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:05 PM

Cupid Wolf is a clarification for what happens when cupid is infected

and is unchanged from how it used to work

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:06 PM

what happens if cupid chooses angel?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:06 PM

they win if angel is lynched or if townsfolk wins

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:06 PM

Does angel live loss with town still

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:06 PM

why townsfolk winning?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:06 PM

Cupid is townsfolk base aligned

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:06 PM

oh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:06 PM

because Angel has nothing to combine that with it remains townsfolk aligned

townsfolk + => townsfolk

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:07 PM

Technically angel can take lover with them and get a safe win

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:07 PM

so cupid can win without their lover winning

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:07 PM

no

angel also can win with town

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:07 PM

what really

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:07 PM

they can both win with town or if angel ascends

yes

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:07 PM

oh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:08 PM

Cupid combines the win conditions of everyone in the couple, except Unaligned players

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 04:08 PM

their wincons get merged ok

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:08 PM

So what about Cupid + chef

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:08 PM

all UA win conditions are alternative win conds

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion So what about Cupid + chef

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:08 PM

same thing

both can win with town

or with Chef win con

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:08 PM

any um + cupid has that

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:08 PM

The only Cupid who can win with everyone

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:08 PM

ua + cupid depends on when alignment changes etc

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:09 PM

What about Cupid + cupid

Is it just town group

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:09 PM

yes

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:09 PM

that causes hosts to spontaneous self-combust

jk

its a town group that just dies if one dies

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:09 PM

imagine cupid that selects a cupid that selects another cupid that picks a pyro

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:09 PM

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:09 PM

then the first cupid is infected by IW

and the second one is turned undead

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:10 PM

AHHA WHAT

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:10 PM

then we have an epic Cupid Wolf, Undead Cupid, Cupid, Pyro couple

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:10 PM

thats horrible

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:10 PM

Even further is the 3rd Cupid becomes zombie

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:10 PM

that was removed

forgot to also remove the cupids

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:10 PM

Ah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:11 PM

another cupid that picks a thief

The Last Real Human that was removed

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:11 PM

Well it could happen in os

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:11 PM

that changes to town alignment

The Last Real Human you can do things like $i lupine cupid now

Bob from Nasa™ 24-May-21 04:11 PM

we should update the bot guide in that case

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:11 PM

Cupid and Thief dont work together

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:11 PM

What happens if Cupid picks psycho and Cupid is on psycho list

Bob from Nasa™ we should update the bot guide in that case

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:12 PM

where and what?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 04:12 PM

cupid is hell

thief is fun

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion What happens if Cupid picks psycho and Cupid is on psycho list

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:12 PM

current: Psycho win con is impossible so they have to win with town

the old had a thing where cupid was removed from the list

Bob from Nasa™ 24-May-21 04:12 PM

nvm it doesnt mention the use of _

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:13 PM

Does Cupid who picks cc change to lupine Cupid when cc changes?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 04:13 PM

yes

If the cupid selects a lover from the wolf team or wolfpack, or if their lover joins the wolf team or wolfpack, the cupid turns into a Lupine Cupid.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 04:13 PM

Oh cool

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:07 PM

I'm going to be extra cautious with my words and actions next time as town

I thought just being a regular person and not overthinking things (especially cause I was generally disposable as a role anyway) would help keep my innocence

Apparently instead I made too many mistakes and became the most suspicious person

I will now always play as a wolf pretending to be town regardless of my role. Unless I'm solo lol

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:10 PM

"fourth game in a row claiming journo" lol

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:10 PM

I am not kidding lol (edited)

I officially hate this role

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:10 PM

lmao

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:10 PM

i want to be journo tbh

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:10 PM

its not useful if you don't die

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:10 PM

journo

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:11 PM

dying in the game is not fun

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:11 PM

last time i was journo i was lynched d1

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:11 PM

is basically the new citizen

when was i ever jounro

idr

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:11 PM

journo is a great role but it's a bit overused, and it makes it less fun

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:11 PM

but you get to write and i like to do that

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:11 PM

and the journal isn't even rewarding if you don't die

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:11 PM

journo is like a slightly buffed citizen

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:11 PM

i love making a giant journal

ive only been journalist once and i was too open about it, so wolves didnt kill me

Commander of the 7th Fleet 24-May-21 05:12 PM

I can't wait to be a regular town role

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:12 PM

i wanna be a ti i haven't been ti in forever

Heir to the Milky Way journo is like a slightly buffed citizen

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:12 PM

atleast as the citizen, the oh so mighty town power roles on their pedestals won't keep making plans to use you as bait to confirm someone (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:12 PM

lmao

fair

honestly i think the idea that tps are less survivable than roles like journo is false (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:13 PM

i feel bad for when we actually put cits in

Heir to the Milky Way honestly i think the idea that tps are less survivable than roles like journo is false (edited)

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:13 PM

less survivable?

oh

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:13 PM

these roles like journo and cit are so easily killed because theyre so quickly fakeclaimed

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:13 PM

right ok

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:14 PM

yea

Heir to the Milky Way when was i ever jounro

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:14 PM

Wolvespine but you also classed as inactive I think

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:14 PM

just "sacrificing a cit because we have nothing better" is a sad mentality and i think that might happen to journos too (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way honestly i think the idea that tps are less survivable than roles like journo is false (edited)

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:14 PM

This would really hold true if scum had strong TI's

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:14 PM

Scum had strong TI's :hepi:

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Wolvespine but you also classed as inactive I think

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:15 PM

ah welp the one game i was journo, i was IA lmao

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:15 PM

i love being journo

but tbf I very rarely get town pr

Earth-Preservation President just "sacrificing a cit because we have nothing better" is a sad mentality and i think that might happen to journos too (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:15 PM

it does happen a lot

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:15 PM

I think I can remember like three times I got it and one I died n1

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:15 PM

I still have never been a duplicate role

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:16 PM

good for you ethan

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:16 PM

when was astra ever town tbh

Void Patrol Representative 24-May-21 05:16 PM

^

I have never seen you town astra

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:16 PM

35% town

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:17 PM

thats more town than other roles still

well no

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:17 PM

Oh did jay die quick Os5B

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:17 PM

20% Solo and 20% UA is kinda crazy

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:17 PM

yeah lol

i think mine has a pretty balanced alignment chart

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:17 PM

What was my solo again?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:17 PM

but most people's charts are just crazy

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:18 PM

Like 20% or something

Child of the Stars when was astra ever town tbh

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:18 PM

I can remember a game as journo, a game as exe, and two very early games as huntsman and stalker

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:18 PM

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:18 PM

im the only person who has ended a game as vampire twice

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:18 PM

Wolves = Town finally

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:19 PM

nice

not a single duplicate either

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:19 PM

where can i find these charts

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:19 PM

just a very sad win/loss ratio

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:19 PM

i wanna see what roles ive been

Earth-Preservation President not a single duplicate either

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:19 PM

Nope never played a role twice

Child of the Stars where can i find these charts

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:19 PM

I can make them

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:19 PM

can u make mine

i want to remember what town roles i played as

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:20 PM

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:20 PM

it just gathers a bunch of data from the ratings sheet

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:20 PM

Ethan

Me rip our ratio

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:20 PM

double www oof

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:20 PM

Scary I just witnessed one pop into existence on the sheet

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:20 PM

at least not quadruple www

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:20 PM

does anyone have 4 www?

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:20 PM

the only way i think wolves could have claimed TP without being found by TI would be if it was sneaking wolf who did it

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:21 PM

i was butcher twice in a row????

what

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:21 PM

lmao

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:21 PM

wasnt one of those games restarted

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:21 PM

Vyryn

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:21 PM

theyre seperate games

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:21 PM

i remember one butcher game being restarted

The Last Real Human Vyryn

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:21 PM

omg wth

those www

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:22 PM

triple www in S2

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:22 PM

lolol

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:22 PM

ive been devil but only from role thief

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:22 PM

all losses too

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:22 PM

huh

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:22 PM

it only counts roles you end the game with

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:22 PM

actually

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:22 PM

Wait this game pushed me up to we bronze I think yay

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:22 PM

S2G2 almost is a duplicate of S2G1??

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:22 PM

ww*

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:22 PM

lmao

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:23 PM

huh what's going on there

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:23 PM

it seems so

weird

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:23 PM

everyone has the same role

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:23 PM

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:23 PM

except like 3 people that arent listed in s2g2

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:23 PM

I can't see S2 on the sheet

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:23 PM

that must be wrong

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:23 PM

but if it was a reset, it couldnt have been the same roles

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion I can't see S2 on the sheet

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:23 PM

it's only on PD

S1/S2 aren't rated

but PD has legacy data

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:24 PM

Oh that's the one with who played what role

IC

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:24 PM

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:24 PM

why do i have 0 gamethrow

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:24 PM

same as the source data

Child of the Stars why do i have 0 gamethrow

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:24 PM

???

do you want more than 1?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:24 PM

lol jk

the joke is that at some point i played so bad i named myself gamethrower

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:24 PM

ah

further down s1/s2 there's some differences

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:25 PM

it was more on mafia than on here ig

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:25 PM

but at the top they're the same game

very weird

Child of the Stars the joke is that at some point i played so bad i named myself gamethrower

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:25 PM

Wasn't it I'll gamethrow if I am voted?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:25 PM

do we have someone who gamethrew

yes

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:25 PM

yes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:26 PM

There is a gamethrow in the archives somewhere

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:26 PM

I have 3 recorded gamethrows

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:26 PM

also arch is plat now

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:26 PM

I like to think that a lot of my losses, especially V1G2 onwards, were due to shitty teammates/accidentally unbalanced rolelists/just bad luck rather than me being shit.

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:26 PM

huh really

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:26 PM

the llama guy

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:27 PM

S2G8 Atteug as Undead S3G6 Pink Fluffy Llama as Wolf's Cub S3G6 federick as Cursed Civilian

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:27 PM

yeah i agree astra u played very good

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:27 PM

and somehow both leila and i have had our ratings decreased... but we both got more this game than the average we had were some params changed?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:27 PM

u deserve more points

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:27 PM

thank you arch this is why you're my favourite

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:27 PM

Lizard Representative I like to think that a lot of my losses, especially V1G2 onwards, were due to shitty teammates/accidentally unbalanced rolelists/just bad luck rather than me being shit.

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:27 PM

you're usually more alive than your team and score higher than your team

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:27 PM

i mean honestly i wouldve given you devil win but i was very angry im sorry

and youd smite me

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:28 PM

I was so close platinum when i checked

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:28 PM

Wyatt and Dennis got the most this game but I think it's because role survivability

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:28 PM

Like 0.4 points from it (edited)

The Last Real Human you're usually more alive than your team and score higher than your team

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:28 PM

that's good right

Heir to the Milky Way and somehow both leila and i have had our ratings decreased... but we both got more this game than the average we had were some params changed?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:28 PM

Unaligned players no longer get a high bonus for keeping their entire team alive

Child of the Stars i mean honestly i wouldve given you devil win but i was very angry im sorry

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:28 PM

i mean fair enough, that was mostly luck for me that game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:28 PM

I haven't found the best solution for that yet

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:28 PM

the game is still without subjectives, and hosts agreed that we'd try to change the balance so subjectives would count more

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:28 PM

the points for this game aren't done yet

Earth-Preservation President the game is still without subjectives, and hosts agreed that we'd try to change the balance so subjectives would count more

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:29 PM

no

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:29 PM

unaligned players?

The Last Real Human no

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:29 PM

?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:29 PM

they have team?

Child of the Stars i mean honestly i wouldve given you devil win but i was very angry im sorry

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:29 PM

S6G4?

Child of the Stars they have team?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:29 PM

they got points for keeping their team alive

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:29 PM

uh

Earth-Preservation President ?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:29 PM

you can't

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:29 PM

three games ago

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:29 PM

ratings are seasonal

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:29 PM

what

then what is it for

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:29 PM

Jay could have won with patience that game too

Earth-Preservation President then what is it for

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:29 PM

what?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:30 PM

If they waited until day they could kill all soulless and win

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:30 PM

we hosts think we should subjectives more for this game specifically

idk how much subjectives weigh rn

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Jay could have won with patience that game too

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:30 PM

in hindsight yes, but I didn't have the information to know I could

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:30 PM

maybe subjectives already count like we want them to

Earth-Preservation President we hosts think we should subjectives more for this game specifically

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:30 PM

you can't adjust that

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:30 PM

interesting

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:30 PM

I understand why and think that's probably a good idea

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:31 PM

Most of town scored 2.44 this game

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:31 PM

yeah uh

we don't agree with that

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:31 PM

that's without subjective

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:31 PM

Database error. Could not find role assistantg!

Assistant | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Assistant may select a player to redirect one wolf action to. The action cannot be an attack. Details The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. When the Assistant is affected by a wolf power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolves being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:31 PM

okay so as example

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:31 PM

Is that just from win and days dead and stuff

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:32 PM

Assistant | Townsfolk Miscellaneous Basics The Assistant may select a player to redirect one wolf action to. The action cannot be an attack. Details The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. When the Assistant is affected by a wolf power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolves being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:32 PM

Shtop

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:32 PM

i gave bart, someone we want to rate higher, a 10. in this scenario, i gave a random town a 0

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:32 PM

Claimspace | Town Miscellaneous Basics The Claimspace has no special abilities, and is only there for claimspace. Details For each Claimspace in the game, an extra role is added to the role list along with Claimspace, however no player actually is this role. When the role list is sent, it is not noted which role is not actually in the game. The Claimspace is privately informed which role the extra was. If there are multiple Claimspaces, each Claimspace has their own extra role.

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:32 PM

Sharl did you expect me to be assistant

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:32 PM

it doesnt do much

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:32 PM

it does

it a ~0.7 change

Werewolves Bot C Claimspace | Town Miscellaneous Basics The Claimspace has no special abilities, and is only there for claimspace. Details For each Claimspace in the game, an extra role is added to the role list along with Claimspace, however no player actually is this role. When the role list is sent, it is not noted which role is not actually in the game. The Claimspace is privately informed which role the extra was. If there are multiple Claimspaces, each Claimspace has their own extra role.

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:32 PM

hmm can someone explain this I am filling up the survey

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:32 PM

well let's see

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:33 PM

bc everyone was at 1 Bart already had max subj points

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:33 PM

luffy did you expect me to be town

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:33 PM

changing it to 10 didn't change it

he still had max subj points

so his rating is unchanged

but everyone else doesn't have max subj points anymore

Child of the Stars luffy did you expect me to be town

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:33 PM

Idk, i thought they had you on their suspect list so not really

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:33 PM

hence everyone else changes

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:33 PM

next time i bet youll be wolf/scum

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:33 PM

i dont get it but all right

Owner of the Milky Way hmm can someone explain this I am filling up the survey

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:33 PM

please

Owner of the Milky Way hmm can someone explain this I am filling up the survey

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:33 PM

Gets a told it would be a role but doesn't get that roles powers

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:33 PM

why were they pre-filled in

Child of the Stars next time i bet youll be wolf/scum

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:33 PM

You say that every game

The Last Real Human Unaligned players no longer get a high bonus for keeping their entire team alive

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:33 PM

ah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:33 PM

no way luffy gets town 4 times in a row

Earth-Preservation President why were they pre-filled in

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:33 PM

it's closer to the expected points than if it's not set to 1

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:33 PM

lol

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:34 PM

here's it without any subj points

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:34 PM

yes that what i wanted to see

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:34 PM

I.e told it would have been journalist and listed as journalist in #information but has no journal @Owner of the Milky Way

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Gets a told it would be a role but doesn't get that roles powers

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:34 PM

yeah but I still don't understand how that would work>? how would it work with TIs and stuff?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:34 PM

Yeah

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:34 PM

Yes

Owner of the Milky Way yeah but I still don't understand how that would work>? how would it work with TIs and stuff?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:35 PM

So say list was put as ft, macho, huntress, wolf, angel and huntress was in fact claimspace, claimspace is told it fills huntress slot and doesn't investigative as such and has none of the Huntress powers

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:36 PM

so FT check on them would give claimspace as result?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:36 PM

Yeah I think

Earth-Preservation President the game is still without subjectives, and hosts agreed that we'd try to change the balance so subjectives would count more

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:36 PM

i already told you that's not possible

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:36 PM

But cs checking them as huntress would give a no result

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:37 PM

oh hmmm

interesting

I wanna see a trial game with it

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:37 PM

Sharl whats ur favorite tm role

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:37 PM

Claimspace already got removed

it was too hated

Heir to the Milky Way i already told you that's not possible

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:37 PM

what?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:37 PM

the subjectives being different for 1 game

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:37 PM

maybe it was stein

The Last Real Human Claimspace already got removed

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:37 PM

what???

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:38 PM

ok if luffy is scum next game he better nitro me

jk

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:38 PM

why was it hated?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:38 PM

i told you or stein that AFAIK share of subjective cannot be changed for a game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:38 PM

it was one of the only roles that ended up with a negative score

Child of the Stars ok if luffy is scum next game he better nitro me

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:38 PM

lmao

Child of the Stars ok if luffy is scum next game he better nitro me

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:38 PM

Ur vibes havent been right for 3 games already >:)

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:38 PM

claimspace was gimmicky as hell

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:38 PM

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:38 PM

Vamp

Owner of the Milky Way why was it hated?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:38 PM

It's basically cit but unprovable and gives wolves claimspace

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:38 PM

VAMP SLANDER

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:38 PM

I might play more actually I wanna be on a team with arch

The Last Real Human it was one of the only roles that ended up with a negative score

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:38 PM

wait, is it too late to fill that form?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:38 PM

THIEF SLANDER

Owner of the Milky Way wait, is it too late to fill that form?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:38 PM

no you can still do it

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:38 PM

ok wait

what

why is gww so much below www

wtf

makes no sense

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:39 PM

Wolf could claim claimspace and they were hooker claimspace

So they wouldn't have to prove powers

But could be confirmed town

If like SnW in AT game

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:39 PM

Innkeeper | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Innkeeper may invite a guest to the inn. Details Each night, the Innkeeper may add a player to the inn. The Innkeeper can anonymously talk to all the guests of the inn. Adding a guest is immediate effect. During each day, the Innkeeper may choose to clear the inn. Clearing the inn removes all guests and messages and is an end effect. If the Innkeeper dies the inn is cleared.

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:40 PM

I don't see the use of the innkeeper

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:40 PM

Can get claims

Earth-Preservation President THIEF SLANDER

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:40 PM

thief i can understand, it's fun but makes it impossible to actually support any team but vamp

we never found a fix for vamp right?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:40 PM

It can choose a player, get their claim then clean the chat and start over

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion Can get claims

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:40 PM

it seems weird though its like a weaker grandma of sorts

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:40 PM

to make old team also count

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:40 PM

ahhh fine

seems OP kinda ngl

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:40 PM

It's like bartender but in a private cc

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:41 PM

well vampire is straightforward bastard in mafia terms but ig claimspace and thief are too

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:41 PM

Exorcist | Townsfolk Power Basics Each night, the Exorcist may remove negative effects from one player. Details Each night, the Exorcist can exorcise one player. All negative effects caused by solo roles are removed from the player and the Exorcist is informed which effects were removed. Players that have already been exorcised can not be exorcised again. The Exorcist can not cure players if they have changed role as the result of an effect, such as the Undead, but can still remove other possible effects the Undead has. The solo team who's effect is cured is informed about this. Negative Effects The following effects can be removed by the Exorcist: Enchanted - Flute Team Soulless - Hell Team Powdered - Pyro Team Demonized - Underworld Team Blessed - Heaven Team Tainted - Graveyard Team Sleepless - Nightmare Team Herded - Flock Team Infected/Contagious - Disease Team Frozen - Ice Royals Team

Child of the Stars well vampire is straightforward bastard in mafia terms but ig claimspace and thief are too

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:41 PM

what?

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:41 PM

I dont see the issue with claimspace

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:41 PM

isn't claimspace a joke role?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:41 PM

Claimspace | Town Miscellaneous Basics The Claimspace has no special abilities, and is only there for claimspace. Details For each Claimspace in the game, an extra role is added to the role list along with Claimspace, however no player actually is this role. When the role list is sent, it is not noted which role is not actually in the game. The Claimspace is privately informed which role the extra was. If there are multiple Claimspaces, each Claimspace has their own extra role.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:41 PM

No I don't think so

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:41 PM

It just means theres one unknown town role

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:41 PM

bastard is a wide term

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:41 PM

Per claimspace

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:42 PM

huh

this is nice?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:42 PM

it involves alignment changing roles

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:42 PM

why do people hate claimspace? (edited)

i'm guessing most peeps think it's a joke role

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:42 PM

It's a role that means wolves can claim a TI, TP, TK without having to use the power

Child of the Stars it involves alignment changing roles

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:42 PM

ah i see

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:42 PM

I could as wolf claim claimspace CS

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:42 PM

why does everyone hate alignment changes

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:43 PM

Why wouldnt they have to use their power?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:43 PM

Mad Scientist | Townsfolk Killing Basics The Mad Scientist has two subjects, from two different teams. If killed, their targeted subject will also die. Details At the start of the game, the Mad Scientist is assigned two players. They interrogate their subjects and, before the Mad Scientist dies, they must choose one of the two assigned players to take with them to their death. If the Mad Scientist has not targeted a subject when they die, a random subject will be killed. They will have a secret channel together with their two targets, and they also have a channel alone, where they will decide on who they want to attack if they are killed. The two targets are always on two different teams (excluding Unaligned). These teams are either Townsfolk, Werewolves or any of the different Solo teams. The Mad Scientist can choose a target, even if the target is already dead. Attacking the other player is an immediate ability. When the Mad Scientist kills, they are revealed as the Mad Scientist.

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:43 PM

On mafia, several Queue threads require a game with any of the mechanics in the list below to be labelled as "bastard": 1. Cults 2. mid-game alignment changes 3. moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine, but telling someone they are a Reflexive Doctor when they're actually a Paranoid Gun Owner is not) secret win conditions 4. un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation 5. direct moderator influence during the game

Heir to the Milky Way why does everyone hate alignment changes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:43 PM

Imagine working hard to wipe out vamps only to become vamp yourself and get lynched and lose

N1 alignment Change is fine

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:43 PM

(cults that change alignment ig)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:43 PM

Late game is bad

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:43 PM

yeah i agree

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:43 PM

then either get the vamp quick, or just don't die

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:44 PM

Technically jester roles are also bastard

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:44 PM

Jesters that end the game are bastard 100%

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:44 PM

well if the players know theres jester

^^

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:44 PM

also, anyone else think Pack Tanner kinda OP?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:44 PM

yea

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:44 PM

pack tanner is a bit op yes

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:44 PM

Kinda but it's subject to change

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:44 PM

but many town roles are op enough to compensate

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:45 PM

Clairvoyant Fox | Werewolf Investigative Basics Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may investigate one player, and the results will be known to both them and the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Clairvoyant Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf. Details Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may either investigate one player or choose to join the wolfpack. When the Clairvoyant Fox investigates a player they see that player's role. The investigation is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. If the Clairvoyant Fox survives the day, the result of the investigation is announced to them as well as to the wolfpack at the start of the night. The wolfpack only sees the result and that it's from a Clairvoyant Fox - they don't know who was checked. The Clairvoyant Fox and wolfpack do not know each other's identities, as the Clairvoyant Fox is not a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Clairvoyant Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not investigate that day, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack is an immediate ability and investigating a player is an end effect.

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:45 PM

Take limited roles and even some non limited roles with a grain of salt

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:45 PM

Pack tanner is immune to priest and AT before disguising

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:45 PM

hmmmm, I actually kinda like this cf, esp if coward and others exist ig

Captain of the Void Patrol Pack tanner is immune to priest and AT before disguising

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:46 PM

what?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:46 PM

Pack Tanner | Werewolf Power Basics Each day, the Pack Tanner may disguise up to one players as a role of the Pack Tanner’s choosing. Details Each day, the Pack Tanner can weakly disguise one player; the night after, to roles affected by weak disguises, their role will appear to be what the Pack Tanner has disguised the player as. The Pack Tanner may disguise themself, but they may not disguise the same player twice in a row. Disguising a player is an immediate effect. If the Pack Tanner dies, the assigned player will keep their disguise for the night. The player loses their disguise at the end of the night. The Pack Tanner is not a lycan, but is part of the wolfpack.

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:46 PM

Because its not a lycan

So its not a threat

And priest cant kill

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:46 PM

wait what

oh

huhhhhhhh

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:46 PM

I often find that people complain about "overpowered" wolf roles without considering that there are many equally powered town roles.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:46 PM

non lycans include what all?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:46 PM

hooker is op

Lizard Representative I often find that people complain about "overpowered" wolf roles without considering that there are many equally powered town roles.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:46 PM

exactly

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:46 PM

Priest | Townsfolk Killing Basics Each night, the Priest may use their holy water on a player. If that player is a lycan, that player will be attacked. Otherwise, the Priest risks their own death. Details If the targeted player is a lycan, they are attacked. If they are townsfolk, the Priest dies. If they are not lycan and not townsfolk, both the Priest and the target live. Using holy water on a player is an end-night ability.

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:46 PM

hooker is op

CS is really really OP

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:46 PM

pack tanner is vulnerable to huntsman as well

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:47 PM

CS is just OP and it was used one game and I hated it that game as it decimated pyros

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:47 PM

CS is tooo op make it 2 checks?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:47 PM

cs is literally buffed psychic wolf

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:47 PM

and every confirmable town role is a huge blow to wolves

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:47 PM

there's not really many powerful wolf roles at all

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 05:47 PM

wolves are generally underpowered

but there's not a lot of weak town roles that don't get confirmed easily

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:47 PM

Wolves main power is informed of eachother

Most wolves know their team members

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:48 PM

and town main power is their number

The Last Real Human there's not really many powerful wolf roles at all

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:48 PM

we don't need really powerful ones, just need decent power, cuz wolves already know ech other just need better methods to kinda slow town confirmations

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:48 PM

And a kill each night

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:48 PM

for the entire span of, um, start of S2 to end of S4/S3(? not sure), we never had strong enough wolf teams for wolf to win without some ridiculous amounts of luck

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:48 PM

All cit v wolf game when :hepi:

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:48 PM

:hepi:

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion All cit v wolf game when :hepi:

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:48 PM

that just becomes mafia lol

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:48 PM

LOL ITS A NITRO EMOJI

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:48 PM

Exactly the joke

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:48 PM

later it changed, and now that wolves can actually win, we have people complaining about wolf roles being op -_-

like wow

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:49 PM

You know which role I dislike

MS

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:49 PM

do you peeps really want to return to pathetically weak wolf teams?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:49 PM

Like I've seen it in minis once

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:49 PM

what about a super bastard game when theres really no wolf, everyone is town, rolelist is closed. the only way town can win is by lynching the bot

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:49 PM

And it has a guaranteed at least 50% chance to kill evil

Heir to the Milky Way later it changed, and now that wolves can actually win, we have people complaining about wolf roles being op -_-

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:49 PM

we haven't used pack tanner in big games right

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:49 PM

but town thinks theres evil so they start lynching each other unknowingly

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion All cit v wolf game when :hepi:

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:49 PM

i'd hold a small (off season VIP) game if anyone is interested

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:50 PM

smh offseason is a time for chaotic rl

Heir to the Milky Way i'd hold a small (off season VIP) game if anyone is interested

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:50 PM

nah its not fun

Child of the Stars what about a super bastard game when theres really no wolf, everyone is town, rolelist is closed. the only way town can win is by lynching the bot

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:50 PM

lmao

Owner of the Milky Way nah its not fun

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:50 PM

and this is why we don't hold those^

Heir to the Milky Way do you peeps really want to return to pathetically weak wolf teams?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:50 PM

All LW and LWa

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:50 PM

90% of the peeps here wouldn't find a simple role list fun

Heir to the Milky Way 90% of the peeps here wouldn't find a simple role list fun

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:50 PM

*a citizen role list

Child of the Stars what about a super bastard game when theres really no wolf, everyone is town, rolelist is closed. the only way town can win is by lynching the bot

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:50 PM

b-but im the bot

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:50 PM

i mean, i would

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:51 PM

I would be happy with mountainous

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:51 PM

When was the last time the entire town wasnt known by night 3

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:51 PM

well would you find simple, but not plain cit-wolf rl interesting? (edited)

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:51 PM

but i want to try out different roles

i havent been pyro for example

or ft

fp

Captain of the Void Patrol When was the last time the entire town wasnt known by night 3

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:51 PM

the last game I won which is S6G3 or 4

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:51 PM

Which one was that

Captain of the Void Patrol When was the last time the entire town wasnt known by night 3

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:51 PM

on VIP just the last game lol

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:52 PM

Yeah

Child of the Stars i havent been pyro for example

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:52 PM

i don't think I've ever been a tp role actually

or tg

or wi

Heir to the Milky Way on VIP just the last game lol

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:52 PM

he said wasnt

Captain of the Void Patrol When was the last time the entire town wasnt known by night 3

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:52 PM

S6g5a

Lol

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:52 PM

i haven't been TI more than like twice AFAIK

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:52 PM

I thought they did

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion S6g5a

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:52 PM

that was a clusterfuck

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:52 PM

Or was that night 4

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:52 PM

N4 I think

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 05:52 PM

Flute Apprentice | Solo Power - Flute Team Basics The Flute Apprentice is a Flute Player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they can become the Flute Player if no Flute Players remain. Additionally, the Flute Apprentice can redirect the abilities of enchanted players. Details The Flute Apprentice may target a player, and update this target whenever they like. If any player that is enchanted uses an ability on the Flute Apprentice, the ability is instead redirected onto the Flute Apprentice's target. The original player is not informed about this. If no Flute Players remain, the Flute Apprentice turns into a Flute Player and loses their redirection power.

Heir to the Milky Way i haven't been TI more than like twice AFAIK

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:53 PM

I've been TI once and TK who lived past n1 also once

Owner of the Milky Way he said wasnt

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:53 PM

last game was a wolf win smh and town had no idea i wasn't town

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:53 PM

my town pr record is not good

Lizard Representative or tg

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:53 PM

tg?

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:53 PM

I don't think I have been TI

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:53 PM

group

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:53 PM

oh

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:53 PM

Or TK

Heir to the Milky Way last game was a wolf win smh and town had no idea i wasn't town

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:53 PM

That was the best game ever btw

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:53 PM

Wait no I was CL

Werewolves Bot C Flute Apprentice | Solo Power - Flute Team Basics The Flute Apprentice is a Flute Player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they can become the Flute Player if no Flute Players remain. Additionally, the Flute Apprentice can redirect the abilities of enchanted players. Details The Flute Apprentice may target a player, and update this target whenever they like. If any player that is enchanted uses an ability on the Flute Apprentice, the ability is instead redirected onto the Flute Apprentice's target. The original player is not informed about this. If no Flute Players remain, the Flute Apprentice turns into a Flute Player and loses their redirection power.

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:53 PM

hey why was this changed?????????????

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:53 PM

i was butcher twice in a row but i dont remember...

iirc one of em got reset

Owner of the Milky Way hey why was this changed?????????????

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:54 PM

because it sucked

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:54 PM

Does being cult leader count as town group?

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:54 PM

yes

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:54 PM

Technically is tk

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:54 PM

i was luffy's CM and died N1

(edited)

Owner of the Milky Way hey why was this changed?????????????

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:54 PM

Apprentice sounded like a backup role also it happened in FP buff

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:54 PM

That was so sad

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:54 PM

we had plans

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:54 PM

Bartender and cm died n1

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:54 PM

rip log

died too young

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:54 PM

nothing could be done since i just died

for no reason

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:54 PM

redirect abilities???

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:55 PM

U were too townie

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:55 PM

simply don't die n1

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:55 PM

i am always too townie nowadays it seems lol

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:55 PM

In a lone wolf game

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:55 PM

just dont cc n1

Lizard Representative because it sucked

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:55 PM

true I remember 3let and me playing flute team sucked when 3let died

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:55 PM

I have been as town Journo, cit, cl, innkeeper, trickster

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:55 PM

start talking from d1 onward

pretend to be afk

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:55 PM

yes, and that got me killed this time?

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:55 PM

To be fair, i dont mind meta kill if its from a n1 lone wolf

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:55 PM

everyone metas log

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:56 PM

Because they really cant take risks

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:56 PM

he's the new meta target

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:56 PM

prophet: i wasn't active enough, hence they killed me leila: i was too active, hence killed

Lizard Representative 24-May-21 05:56 PM

was luffy then me now log

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:56 PM

Harper too at one point lol

Captain of the Void Patrol To be fair, i dont mind meta kill if its from a n1 lone wolf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:56 PM

what

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:56 PM

the og meta was JR then it was vyryn for quite a long time

Heir to the Milky Way yes, and that got me killed this time?

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:56 PM

attacking you was a stroke of luck really we kinda chose randomly

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:56 PM

wow

why do random kills always find me

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:57 PM

I think my lack of ton roles I have been makes me a meta lynch sometimes

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:57 PM

Its not meta to make reads off of behavior from previous games right?

Heir to the Milky Way why do random kills always find me

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:57 PM

you're too good and so killable?? kinda like Stein

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:57 PM

town*

Captain of the Void Patrol Its not meta to make reads off of behavior from previous games right?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:57 PM

thats fine

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:57 PM

lmao

Owner of the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:57 PM

be terrible like me, I usually survive till near the endgame

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:57 PM

For example: wyatt likes fake claiming ti (edited)

Captain of the Void Patrol Its not meta to make reads off of behavior from previous games right?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:57 PM

if those reads were actually consistent on me, i'd be ok

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:57 PM

"Log maybe? he was quiet this game and last game he wasnt" - prophet before he kills log (edited)

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 05:57 PM

"For example void fake claims journo" - Prophets reason that void was ES (edited)

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:57 PM

lol thats meta

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:58 PM

I was really hoping though for there to be warlock

To use my power to its full potential

Child of the Stars "Log maybe? he was quiet this game and last game he wasnt" - prophet before he kills log (edited)

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:58 PM

what's worst is that when leila killed me, she said almost the exact opposite

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:58 PM

"log active?"

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:58 PM

approximately

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:58 PM

Cuz she was lone wolf

And u seemed like town from being active

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:59 PM

she said something like "log was active in town square"

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 05:59 PM

The quiet argument is when wolves think ur important town

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 05:59 PM

never mind the fact that i can be quite active publicly as wolf

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 05:59 PM

why do wolves always approach solo early

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 05:59 PM

those are just excuses for meta kills

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:00 PM

It was good they killed you tbh

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:00 PM

(heck i actually "lead" town as wolf in #gamelog-v2g3)

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:00 PM

Because u died anyways

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:00 PM

true

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:00 PM

watching you in V2G3 was great

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:00 PM

it was hilarious how they never figured me out

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:00 PM

nobody even questioned you

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:00 PM

Dennis never usually lives past N1 as TI therefore if we kill him N1 he will magically be TI

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:00 PM

Ur vip game was definitely ur best one yet

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:00 PM

you were like ah yes one of you two has to be wolf

and they went with that

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:01 PM

The other 2 town were just so sus

That no one even considered you

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:01 PM

Ts just put a singular cit in

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:01 PM

Like bob voted with wolves that one time

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:01 PM

And it confused us

Also topk somehow knew Luffy was FT or something

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:02 PM

Yea i think it was a typo but he said i was ft

Captain of the Void Patrol Ur vip game was definitely ur best one yet

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:02 PM

that honour goes to #gamelog-v2g1, angel not one figured out i was angel, at least nobody mentioned in any channel

in v2g3 someone had an inkling at least, but never pushed

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:02 PM

But then 3let got his angel revenge on you the next game lol

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:02 PM

wait was the game of the other vip server not archived

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:02 PM

i knew he was angel

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:02 PM

log do u remember

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:02 PM

i couldn't help it

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:03 PM

That was my best game too

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:03 PM

i mentioned in my channel that i had to remove my vote

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:03 PM

I won as flute

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:03 PM

slept too early

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:03 PM

Very proud of that

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:03 PM

Oh you can live lose with fp

Nice

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:04 PM

yeah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:04 PM

somehow i missed writing storytime

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:04 PM

I claimed psychopath which worked because despot was claiming macho and kept getting sabotaged

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:04 PM

HAHAHAHA

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:04 PM

Lmao

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:04 PM

LOL

what game was that

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:05 PM

Vip game

Uh

V2g1

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:05 PM

This game is my first town win and first VIP win

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:06 PM

That was before sab wolf couldnt choose the same person twice in a row

Now they cant just sab the hooker every night

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:06 PM

Citizen usage is on an upwards trend

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:07 PM

Should have had a cit in this game

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:07 PM

that would've confused me

but yeah should've had a Citizen

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:07 PM

And a wolf power

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:07 PM

All claimspace game but you don't know when it will happen

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:08 PM

when Bart said he was Citizen I just immediately knew he was SnW

because we were discussing how Citizen was bad recently

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:08 PM

You only knew there was a snw cuz of arch right

Wp

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:08 PM

well that confirmed it

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 06:08 PM

Werewolf Power Disguised Fox Infected Wolf Lone Wolf Saboteur Wolf Tanner Corrupt Wolf Pack Tanner

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:09 PM

But I already had Bart as SnW by then

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:09 PM

Arch claiming early confirmed snw

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:09 PM

Does pack know the target of cf?

Or just targets role

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:09 PM

I don't know

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 06:09 PM

Clairvoyant Fox | Werewolf Investigative Basics Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may investigate one player, and the results will be known to both them and the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Clairvoyant Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf. Details Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may either investigate one player or choose to join the wolfpack. When the Clairvoyant Fox investigates a player they see that player's role. The investigation is affected by weak disguises and obstructions. If the Clairvoyant Fox survives the day, the result of the investigation is announced to them as well as to the wolfpack at the start of the night. The wolfpack only sees the result and that it's from a Clairvoyant Fox - they don't know who was checked. The Clairvoyant Fox and wolfpack do not know each other's identities, as the Clairvoyant Fox is not a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Clairvoyant Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not investigate that day, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack is an immediate ability and investigating a player is an end effect.

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:10 PM

Oh yeah that reminds me

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:10 PM

reluctant Citizen is basically guaranteed SnW (edited)

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:10 PM

Theres a newline typo in es role desc

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-May-21 06:10 PM

Evil Scientist | Solo Killing - Disease Team Basics The Evil Scientist has invented a new disease, lethal and highly contagious. Their desire is to kill off all players. Details They starts off with two (or three for larger games) vials of a substrate containing the disease. At any night, they may use one vial to infect another player. Infected players will be affected by the disease. If the Evil Scientist attempts to infect an already infected player, they are informed, but the vial is used up. Infecting a player is an immediate ability. The Disease N0 - Player is infected [Night Immediate] D1 - Player becomes contagious, and remains so till their death. Any player (except the Evil Scientist) who visits or is visited by a contagious player gets infected (group visits, such as werewolf kills counts as a visit, but only one random person who voted for the contagious player is infected) [End-Day] N1 - Player is still contagious D2 - Player is informed of infection [End-Day] N2 - Player dies (no possible way to survive), cause of death is announced publicly [End-Night]

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:10 PM

idk why Bart did the reluctant claim thing

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:10 PM

The final line in basics

Captain of the Void Patrol Theres a newline typo in es role desc

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:10 PM

I have a new description for ES

but I dont see how that's a typo

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:11 PM

Typo as in its a grammar mistake

Their desire is to Kill off all players

In 2 lines

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:11 PM

oh

thats probably not in the new one

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:11 PM

For clarity it should say win condition instead of desire

In my opinion

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:12 PM

wincon no longer

it is now desire

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:12 PM

How does flute player get live losses though

Flute apprentice i can see, but how flute player

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:13 PM

you can only live lose against solos

FP can live lose against Devil

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:13 PM

Oh you mean live lose against them, not as them

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:14 PM

idk what you're talking about

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:14 PM

I saw it mentioned earlier

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:14 PM

wait how

how can fp live lose against devil

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:14 PM

Soulless i guess

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:14 PM

oh

right

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:15 PM

Evil scientist though

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:15 PM

I think earlier we were talking about people live losing against FP

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:15 PM

Would it be too much of a buff for them to win if everyone alive is diseased

Also infected isnt a good name choice because it overlaps with infected wolf

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:16 PM

my rewrite calls it contaminated

I wasn't expecting ES to be used any time soon so that rewrite wasn't merged

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:17 PM

Plaguebearer is called disease team right

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:17 PM

no

graveyard team

and they taint

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:17 PM

cant u just say the person has gotten ill

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:17 PM

but I removed them from the role book

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:17 PM

contaminated is used on like inanimate objects like water

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:17 PM

I know

but we needed a different word

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:17 PM

You could rename evil scientist with plaguebearer tbh

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:17 PM

sick

illness

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:18 PM

Would make more sense

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:18 PM

corona

"You have been diagnosed with death"

it would be funny

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:19 PM

Infected wolf im assuming is like that thing where u become a werewolf when youre scratched right

1

Captain of the Void Patrol You could rename evil scientist with plaguebearer tbh

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:19 PM

I think we're better of avoiding that

that's just gonna cause confusion

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:20 PM

infected wolf can also mean a sick word

wolf

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:20 PM

i think contamination works fine

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:20 PM

Its cuz in mafia, evil scientist is equivalent to the plaguebearer role lol

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:20 PM

its the most clear

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:20 PM

And theres a few scientist related roles already

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:20 PM

plaguebearer shouldnt be renamed i think, and it definitely shouldnt be ES

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:21 PM

i feel like since there are lots of newcomers from mafia community, some terms need to be changed lol

to make em understandable

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:21 PM

plaguebearer is a version of vamp and renaming it to an already existing role will only cause confusion

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:21 PM

like which?

I think the suggestion was ES=>Plague

not Plague=>ES

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:21 PM

yeah im not good with words

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:21 PM

didnt yall scrap pb

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:21 PM

but i did mean that

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:21 PM

PB was removed from the role book

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:21 PM

no, its a limited role

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:21 PM

it was just vamp

Earth-Preservation President no, its a limited role

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:22 PM

not anymore

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:22 PM

Plaguebearer is gone so thats why i said es could be called it

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:22 PM

it was removed to clean up the role book

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:22 PM

it still exists

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:22 PM

so does it exist or does it not lol

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:22 PM

it doesnt

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:22 PM

not existing means it wont be used ever again

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:22 PM

but its still in the bot

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:22 PM

rewrite the bot

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:22 PM

Probably just a minis role, then

But wouldnt work in minis

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:23 PM

it was removed because if somebody reads the full role book it serves no purpose

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:23 PM

Archangel would work there though

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:23 PM

a bunch of roles that are never used were removed

I think we used Archangel on MW once recently

we should track MW games

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:24 PM

In all solo games

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:24 PM

I want more data

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:24 PM

Archangel works well

I mean games where everyone is a solo

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:25 PM

I mean all solo games don't work particularly well

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:25 PM

In miniwolves

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:25 PM

not really

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:25 PM

Weve done it a few times

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:25 PM

yeah

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:25 PM

At least 4 or 5

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:25 PM

and it never works well

Captain of the Void Patrol 24-May-21 06:25 PM

That ive played

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:26 PM

LOL

ALL SOLO GAME

damn i was originally cupid matched to pb

i got role thief'd and got devil instead

it was just so hilarious

i sniped the entire vampire-lookalike team with souls LMAO

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:27 PM

the vamps were crazy that game

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:27 PM

IKR

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:27 PM

from 2 to like 6

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:27 PM

we should change snw you know

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:27 PM

all lookalikes went vamp lol

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:28 PM

make it so that it can disguise as any TM

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:28 PM

eh

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:28 PM

so a pack df

lol

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:28 PM

or Pack Tanner

but in weak

technically SnW would work better if it's disguised as a role you can't claim

like uh Fake Citizen

because that's how it's generally used

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:31 PM

wait

do we have a scum role that gives fake messages to players

like a wolf role

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:31 PM

no

I think the role generated has that though (edited)

that we use on MW sometimes

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:32 PM

generated?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:32 PM

it generates random roles

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:32 PM

how does it work

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:32 PM

this is an example

it has a ton of abilities/powers (each with a certain strength value) and combines them in a somewhat balanced way

https://www.crowdford.com/tools/werewolf/

Werewolf Role Generator - Crowdford

Creates Werewolf Roles!

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:33 PM

LOL

LEMME PLAY WITH IT

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:34 PM

I have done it

I have gotten a Wolfish Werewolf

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:36 PM

LMAO

thats a beautiful role

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:37 PM

"dennis is stinky"

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:37 PM

yes

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:39 PM

can i get role klists

lists

too lazy to list em all

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:40 PM

what?

The Last Real Human eh

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:40 PM

or just give it a few options at least most games don't even have citizens

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:41 PM

yeah SnW is intended as an AT counter specifically

not as a FT/CS counter

the issue is that people don't understand that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:42 PM

ah

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:42 PM

buff psychic wolf so that its like cs

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:42 PM

it's a strong disguise

right (edited)

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:42 PM

well in this case bart couldnt have known, he hasnt played in ages

Child of the Stars buff psychic wolf so that its like cs

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:42 PM

no nerf CS

CS is too strong

make it 2 a night

3 is ridiculous

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:42 PM

CS is good in big games

but putting it in smaller games requires a better balanced list/disguises to make it more balanced

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:43 PM

CS needs 30+ player with a few disguises (or maybe a smaller game but with a ton of disguises)

but if you have too much disguise

Earth-Preservation President well in this case bart couldnt have known, he hasnt played in ages

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:43 PM

yeah, hence the issue with SnW being that the player doesn't realize they're not supposed to claim Citizen

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:43 PM

CS becomes rather useless anyways

so preferably something like 50% of wolves should be disguised?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:44 PM

yeah, they quickly claim cit becausw it's literally in the role

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:44 PM

yea

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:44 PM

reverse werewolf game when the majority of the rl is wolf sided and they have to hunt down townies

but only a few wolves

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:44 PM

a new player probably wouldn't go like "i'm gonna claim ranger" or something like that

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:44 PM

do we have wolf sided citizen

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:45 PM

theres cc

but if they admit theyre looking for wolves and not working with town thats gamethrowing

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:45 PM

hmm actually

how about a game (edited)

with a (big) cult

say 4-5 players

and everyone else

is a lw

or maybe one lwa

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:46 PM

cult with several CLs?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:46 PM

i like town groups but its a bit harder to balance in smaller lists

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:46 PM

or just plain warlock since it's the same thing

The Last Real Human cult with several CLs?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:46 PM

yea

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:46 PM

or

Paw

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:46 PM

22 Players Werewolves x11 White Werewolves x3 Hell x2 Vampire x2 Unaligned x2 Graveyard x2 Pack - 9 White Werewolf x1 Wolf x2 Scared White Werewolf x1 Scared Wolf x1 Gray Werewolf x1 Alpha Wolf x1 Hellhound x1 Infected Wolf x1 Foxes - 1 Clairvoyant Fox x1 Lone - 2 Lone Hellhound x1 Lone Wolf x1 Packless - 2 Warlock x1 Tanner x1 UA - 2 Despot x1 Riding Hood x1 Hell - 2 Devil x1 Demon x1 Underworld - 2 Runner Vampire x2 Graveyard - 2 Runner Plaguebearer x2 Rule Change - Underworld has the same IW rule as hell team (turns into Undead instead of Imp) - Graveyard has the same IW rule as hell team (turns into Zombie instead of Imp)

or that

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:46 PM

imma do a mw that way someday

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:46 PM

Yep

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:46 PM

uhm

oh right

is that the list that had some stupid buffed town at first?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:47 PM

yeah

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:47 PM

yeah

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:47 PM

yeah the town didnt make sense

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:47 PM

scared www wtf

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:47 PM

cult leader runner ft or something

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:47 PM

yeah

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:47 PM

Child of the Stars scared www wtf

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:47 PM

I am the only one to have played it

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:48 PM

how does lone hellhound even work

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:48 PM

its a hellhound

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:48 PM

it's hh but not in pack

until a wolf dies

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:48 PM

isnt its entire point

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:48 PM

and if a wolfpack member dies, the hellhound joins the wolfpack and hellhound chat

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:48 PM

know a fellow hh

oh

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:49 PM

it's hh immune to huntsman

for a bit

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:49 PM

yeah

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:49 PM

no HH is in hellhounds from the start

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:49 PM

also LBB

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:49 PM

LHH is in HHs but not pack at the start

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:49 PM

wait runner vampire would be outed if they didnt die from wolf first time

nvm

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:49 PM

hm

whats the use in not putting hh in pack?

www immunity?

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:50 PM

in this list specifically?

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:50 PM

yes

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:50 PM

that and the HH might want to stay hidden at the start

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:50 PM

www and huntsman immunity is the LHH benefits

Earth-Preservation President 24-May-21 06:50 PM

hm

Ex-Leader of the Space Rebellion 24-May-21 06:50 PM

also LBB is cool

imagine a Butcher + huntsman game

and LBB gets checked as not pack and is cleared as butcher

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:53 PM

I dont really like LBB

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:56 PM

what lbb

lone bloody butcher?

Heir to the Milky Way 24-May-21 06:56 PM

what's lbb

wtf

lone bb?

makes no sense

Child of the Stars 24-May-21 06:56 PM

yeah

The Last Real Human 24-May-21 06:57 PM

it was used once in a MW game