VIP Wolves Revamped - herded

Talented Scientist BOT 26-Apr-21 10:42 AM

@Examiner of Wolves

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 10:43 AM

Well well well

I wonder why they chose me

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 10:44 AM

Whatever do you mean

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:50 AM

you online?

i am lonely

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:50 AM

i am

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

wooo

in that case

lets exchange claims!

I'm shepherd

wbu?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

I'm a sheep

clearly

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

or are you a wolf in a sheep disguise?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:52 AM

I examine wolves, as you could guess from my name

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:52 AM

Yes

examine yourself

and find yourself innocent

foolproof

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:53 AM

Unfortunately, I'm an examiner of wolves - I can only examine wolves

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:54 AM

How do you know who's a wolf

to examine them

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

That, I'm afraid, is the issue - I must know who is a wolf to examine them

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

so this is useless

ok great

who do you think I should shepherd next?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

Perhaps yourself?

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 11:56 AM

im afraid thats not possible

any other suggestions?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 11:57 AM

I'm afraid not

Perhaps try another of the elders?

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 12:00 PM

what elders?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 12:00 PM

You know, the elders?

Surely you know about them, being one yourself

Diamond Overseer 26-Apr-21 12:13 PM

Wait what elders

Seriously

Is it a new role?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 26-Apr-21 12:14 PM

Database error. Could not find role elder!

Examiner of Wolves BOT 26-Apr-21 12:15 PM

Ah, I'm afraid you do not know

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 11:55 AM

@Archer the Auditor

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 04:44 PM

okay @Host so shepherd can only steal 1 pair of votes?

Clumsy Assistant BOT 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

unsure

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

They can do it for every herded player

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

it says "a herder player"

that sounds singular to me

it does not all seem like shepherd can steal more than 1 herded player's vote

if it said "herded players'" i would accept it

but this mentions the singular form

@Host i'd like some clarification on that, because right now, having multiple votes stolen does not match the description and i'd like to debate that

Clumsy Assistant BOT 27-Apr-21 04:52 PM

did not write the description, do not like the role, take it up with ts

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 04:52 PM

it's ethan's role, could you ask him?

Clumsy Assistant BOT 27-Apr-21 04:53 PM

ethan is not a gm and does not have the experience balancing. ts should get the say.

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 04:55 PM

... he made the role, but fine

i'll wait for an answer from ts

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 05:06 PM

What you said is right but I already previously considered that point

Just like the devil its a single action that can be done several times

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 05:09 PM

hm

It does make sense with devil, but should shepherd be similar to devil in that?

It's kinda IK vibes with the vote stealing

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 05:12 PM

We probably can discuss this role and changes to it after the game

And yeah this probably takes IKs place

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 05:13 PM

That's why I think we should limit it to one player

Can we change it right now?

^serious suggestion

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 05:24 PM

no

I vote no

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 05:24 PM

Shut up void

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 05:25 PM

>:(

My vote counts ok?

I can steal your vote btw so watch what you say

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 05:27 PM

:(

Sorry dear Voidmist <3

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 05:27 PM

hmph

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 05:33 PM

the description does seem to indicate a single player

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 05:35 PM

I agree with that

I actually didnt know until now

that I can steal from more than one player a day

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 05:37 PM

let's see other roles once

"a player to attack"

notice how that's used to mean one?

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 05:38 PM

yeah

if thats unintentional then the role desc should be updated

also goodbye Vera

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 05:43 PM

Devil also uses "a player"

Generally immediate effects specify if they're limited

Seems like assassin is just inconsistent

Thought in general it seems like kills usually don't specify the amount

This might be a bigger issue completely unrelated to this role

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 06:05 PM

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 06:29 PM

So what is the final verdict?

I think one player makes the most sense

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 06:30 PM

indeed

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 06:34 PM

The verdict is that I'm OP but still gonna lose

Archer the Auditor BOT 27-Apr-21 06:36 PM

<3

Talented Scientist BOT 27-Apr-21 06:42 PM

verdict is that since it doesn't limit it, it's not limited

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 06:45 PM

oof

Diamond Overseer 27-Apr-21 07:22 PM

LoG I'm just confused. Who's the wolf at this point

bob or top?

Examiner of Wolves BOT 27-Apr-21 07:23 PM

I'm just as confused

Talented Scientist BOT 28-Apr-21 11:18 AM

@Gambling Evaluator

Talented Scientist BOT 28-Apr-21 10:38 PM

@Examiner of Wolves