VIP Wolves Revamped

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Apr-21 06:04 PM

You have been herded!

You have been herded by the Shepherd! You do not win with the Flock! Once everyone is herded, the Flock wins. You may be released if the Shepherd is attacked or wants to use your votes.

Talented Scientist 26-Apr-21 10:42 AM

@Examiner of Wolves

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 10:43 AM

Well well well

I wonder why they chose me

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 10:44 AM

Whatever do you mean

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:50 AM

you online?

i am lonely

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:50 AM

i am

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

wooo

in that case

lets exchange claims!

I'm shepherd

wbu?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

I'm a sheep

clearly

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:51 AM

or are you a wolf in a sheep disguise?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:52 AM

I examine wolves, as you could guess from my name

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:52 AM

Yes

examine yourself

and find yourself innocent

foolproof

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:53 AM

Unfortunately, I'm an examiner of wolves - I can only examine wolves

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:54 AM

How do you know who's a wolf

to examine them

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

That, I'm afraid, is the issue - I must know who is a wolf to examine them

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

so this is useless

ok great

who do you think I should shepherd next?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:55 AM

Perhaps yourself?

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 11:56 AM

im afraid thats not possible

any other suggestions?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 11:57 AM

I'm afraid not

Perhaps try another of the elders?

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 12:00 PM

what elders?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 12:00 PM

You know, the elders?

Surely you know about them, being one yourself

Shepherd BOT 26-Apr-21 12:13 PM

Wait what elders

Seriously

Is it a new role?

Examiner of Wolves 26-Apr-21 12:15 PM

Ah, I'm afraid you do not know

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 11:55 AM

@Archer the Auditor

Werewolves Bot C BOT 27-Apr-21 04:43 PM

Shepherd | Solo Power - Flock Team Basics Each night, the Shepherd may choose one player to herd. When everyone is dead, herded or part of the flock the Shepherd wins. Details Whenever a player is herded, they will join a secret channel with the other herded players. The Shepherd may see everything said in this channel, from the safety of their secret channel. Members of the flock can not be herded. During the day, the Shepherd may steal a herded player's votes for the current day, however that player will be unherded. Players with negative votes can't have their negative votes stolen. The Shepherd is informed how many votes they have after stealing a vote. During the night, if there's two or more herded players, the Shepherd is protected from attacks. Every time the Shepherd is attacked, two random herded players will immediately be unherded instead. At the start of the game, the Shepherd may choose a role as a strong disguise. If the Shepherd doesn’t choose a role, they will be disguised as a citizen. If the game started with more than 20 players, the Shepherd may herd two players each night, instead of one.

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 04:44 PM

okay @Host so shepherd can only steal 1 pair of votes?

Clumsy Assistant 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

unsure

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

They can do it for every herded player

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 04:46 PM

it says "a herder player"

that sounds singular to me

it does not all seem like shepherd can steal more than 1 herded player's vote

if it said "herded players'" i would accept it

but this mentions the singular form

@Host i'd like some clarification on that, because right now, having multiple votes stolen does not match the description and i'd like to debate that

Clumsy Assistant 27-Apr-21 04:52 PM

did not write the description, do not like the role, take it up with ts

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 04:52 PM

it's ethan's role, could you ask him?

Clumsy Assistant 27-Apr-21 04:53 PM

ethan is not a gm and does not have the experience balancing. ts should get the say.

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 04:55 PM

... he made the role, but fine

i'll wait for an answer from ts

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 05:06 PM

What you said is right but I already previously considered that point

Just like the devil its a single action that can be done several times

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 05:09 PM

hm

It does make sense with devil, but should shepherd be similar to devil in that?

It's kinda IK vibes with the vote stealing

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 05:12 PM

We probably can discuss this role and changes to it after the game

And yeah this probably takes IKs place

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 05:13 PM

That's why I think we should limit it to one player

Can we change it right now?

^serious suggestion

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 05:24 PM

no

I vote no

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 05:24 PM

Shut up void

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 05:25 PM

>:(

My vote counts ok?

I can steal your vote btw so watch what you say

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 05:27 PM

:(

Sorry dear Voidmist <3

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 05:27 PM

hmph

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 05:33 PM

the description does seem to indicate a single player

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 05:35 PM

I agree with that

I actually didnt know until now

that I can steal from more than one player a day

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 05:37 PM

let's see other roles once

Werewolves Bot C BOT 27-Apr-21 05:37 PM

Assassin | Townsfolk Killing Basics After night 1, the Assassin may choose a player to attack during the night. Details The Assassin may only attack a total of 3 players throughout a game. The Assassin’s attack is an end-night ability.

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 05:37 PM

"a player to attack"

notice how that's used to mean one?

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 05:38 PM

yeah

if thats unintentional then the role desc should be updated

also goodbye Vera

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 05:43 PM

Devil also uses "a player"

Generally immediate effects specify if they're limited

Seems like assassin is just inconsistent

Thought in general it seems like kills usually don't specify the amount

This might be a bigger issue completely unrelated to this role

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 06:05 PM

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 06:29 PM

So what is the final verdict?

I think one player makes the most sense

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 06:30 PM

indeed

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 06:34 PM

The verdict is that I'm OP but still gonna lose

Archer the Auditor 27-Apr-21 06:36 PM

<3

Talented Scientist 27-Apr-21 06:42 PM

verdict is that since it doesn't limit it, it's not limited

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 06:45 PM

oof

Shepherd BOT 27-Apr-21 07:22 PM

LoG I'm just confused. Who's the wolf at this point

bob or top?

Examiner of Wolves 27-Apr-21 07:23 PM

I'm just as confused

Talented Scientist 28-Apr-21 11:18 AM

@Gambling Evaluator

Talented Scientist 28-Apr-21 10:38 PM

@Examiner of Wolves