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Werewolves Bot C BOT 23-Oct-20 07:23 PM

@Captain Crab has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Topcrabsme @Captain Crab

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:23 PM

Ello

So you're here

I thought you were in class

why r u not even speaking

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:24 PM

hi

i am in class lol

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:24 PM

Okay lol

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:35 PM

so whats up

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:36 PM

why did you name this nether

it brings horrible flash backs

And mostly this has been up

Done List- Let tghs ping alive. Pin most first messages cc creation limitations (You can no longer make a cc with you only.) cc name limitations (You can't make a cc called battlefield and respawning) Rename command Profanity penalty jar Tghs and ghs actually check if you have money now Display of who's winning on bid list SEMI !addinv and !reminv items don't need to be in quotes

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:39 PM

swear jar, nice

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:40 PM

Yeah It has been added

I have to go now tho, cya later

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:42 PM

cya

if im not dead by tomorrow

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:42 PM

Is day that fast??

or day + night that fast

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:43 PM

no it changes at around uh

6am for me

something like that

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:43 PM

It turns night at that time right

No way you can be dead by that time

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:43 PM

no

night ends at thattime

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:44 PM

Ohh

I hope I'll be alive too then

(edited)

Is that really not a emoji

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:44 PM

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:45 PM

nitro flexer wow

Alright cya Have a great day

Captain Crab 23-Oct-20 07:45 PM

cya

u going to bed?

Topcrabsme 23-Oct-20 07:50 PM

No, just closing my laptop

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:44 AM

@Topcrabsme am i gonna die

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:44 AM

Maybe

You're a good player someone want to get rid of you

might*

If you're asking if I would kill you then no, my role can't kill

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:46 AM

im a bad role

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:47 AM

I have to go for breakfast Ill be back after that

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:04 AM

I am back

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:04 AM

welcome back

i dont really have much more to say tbh

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:04 AM

I mean I'm topkin but I'm back from eating breakfast (edited)

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:04 AM

ur still thinking of dadbot

lol

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:04 AM

dont

give me flashbacks

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:05 AM

isnt that why u corrected urself

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:05 AM

Sav did a big favour by kicking that thing

isnt that why u corrected urself

I'll give you a proper claim after night 1

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:05 AM

top crab?

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:05 AM

As I don't want to die before it turns day

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:05 AM

im not a wolf

and i probably wont live to tomorrow

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:06 AM

You might, maybe people don't randomly kill in vip

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:06 AM

wdym random

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:06 AM

N1 kills are pretty random

They go hmmm that guy seems sus

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:06 AM

the list of random is pretty small

why would wolves kill a sus person XD

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

Sus to be strong person

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

oh

im not strong

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

Depends on what the wolves think

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

role-wise im one of the worst kills

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

How many wolves are there?

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

player-wise, pretty good kill

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:07 AM

4 just checked

At most they could have 8 ccs

They'll likely pick from that roster

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

wdym

theres 3 ccs per person

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

Oh yeah

hek

I haven't even made 1

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

and no one has made a cc with me this game

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

I do, don't I

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

i made it with u

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:08 AM

fair enough

I would waste 1 and make 1 with u but idk if that's worth it

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

not worth

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

Yeah

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

here let me help u out

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

Pls dont

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

✅ Promoted @Topcrabsme!

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

now u can use this if i die

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

oh lol

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:09 AM

what did u think i was gonna do

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

Make 1 with me promote and leave or something

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

no i have none left

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

Also why r u so sure you're going to die

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

just a feeling

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

Makes me feel like you're like a role that punishes someone that kills you

Like a huntress or something

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:10 AM

u mean macho

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:11 AM

Could be macho

Is there like a category with all roles of that type?

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:11 AM

no

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:12 AM

hmm

topkrab

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:12 AM

hooker is in a different category than runner

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:12 AM

And what category is that

I'm very unfamiliar with the categories

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:13 AM

town misc

town power

look at #information

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:13 AM

No like that's what is in the rl

I'm unfamiliar with what's in the categories

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

type tm

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

tm

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

Townsfolk Miscellaneous Bard Bartender Child Citizen Cursed Civilian Fortune Apprentice Journalist Macho Ranger Runner Trickster Town Crier

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

tp

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

Townsfolk Power Fletcher Grandma Hooker Medium Royal Knight Stalker

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

ua

Werewolves Bot C BOT 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

Unaligned Align Cupid Dog Look-Alike

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:14 AM

ur welcome

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:15 AM

Thkx

thx*

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:15 AM

those are all possible roles for those categories

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:15 AM

Ik

The hosts told me that

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:15 AM

ik = ice king

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:15 AM

I just didn't bother memorizing all that yet

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:16 AM

u calling me ice king?

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:16 AM

No lol

I know = ik

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:16 AM

ik

if i die and find out u killed me

will be sad

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:18 AM

You mostly won't die and I can't kill you

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:19 AM

i think ill die

i hope i dont though

@Topcrabsme how come u made no ccs

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:23 AM

I didn't want to talk a lot day 0/n 1

That went badly for me last game

when I claimed assassin

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:23 AM

well

it got me killed

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:24 AM

It seemed like you got killed anyways

Not many believed my strat

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:24 AM

i got killed because of the list of people u told

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:29 AM

Perhaps

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:45 AM

hows the nether

#nether

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:45 AM

how to get better internet and pc

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:46 AM

how do u get timezone role

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:47 AM

Someone gave me idk

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 07:47 AM

u randomly got it?

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:47 AM

Someone gave it to me

idk who

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:17 AM

Gn

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 10:24 AM

Gn

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:27 AM

how do u get timezone role

@Captain Crab we give them manually, so just let us know your timezone

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:28 AM

ESt

Same as psychobelp and jayanna

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:29 AM

utc-5

wait

no rn you're -4

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:30 AM

Cuz of daylight savings?

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:30 AM

you're east coast or?

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:30 AM

What time is utc rn

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:30 AM

8:30

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

Oh yeah thats 4 then

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

thought so

WAIT

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

Changes with daylight savings i guess

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

Go the FUCK TO SLEEP

yep, changes tomorrow

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

Wait is tomorrow...

The change?

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:31 AM

sunday, 2am utc

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

GO TO SLEEP

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

So i get one less hour of sleep

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

no

you get one more

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

you get 1 more hour

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

I always watch the clock skip from 2 to 3

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

2am-3am repeats itself

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

Oh thats good

An extra hour to procrastinate

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:32 AM

doesnt mean you shouldnt sleep smh

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 10:33 AM

Alright good night for real

🦀 crabba 🦀 24-Oct-20 10:34 AM

gn

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 04:58 PM

Ima ready to claim when you are

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 05:58 PM

Hi

Im here

How did i live

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:13 PM

@Topcrabsme

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:13 PM

Oh hello

I was working on cb bot

Sup

Why did you ping me and then not respond

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:15 PM

Wdym

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:15 PM

Why did you ping me?

I don't mind pings but just asking

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

Cuz u never came

When i asked without pinging

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

cause I was working on cb bot

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

Ye

I waited 15 min

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

fifteen whole minutes

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

Oh gosh

crabtidjay 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

how could you topk

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:16 PM

It was like 8 30 when I started working for "5 mins"

And now it's like 9 45

pm

oh how time passes when you're having fun amirite

no response

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:18 PM

U are right

Top crabs me

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:18 PM

Thanks

Cap. Crab

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:21 PM

So

U wanted to swap claims?

@Topcrabsme

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:26 PM

Sure

Who goes first?

I might be at dinner so don't claim till I get back if you want me to go first

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:27 PM

I think we both trust each other to claim

So lets just say now

Im cit

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:27 PM

Nice, I'm cit too

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:28 PM

Im guessing thats not ur real claim

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:28 PM

It is

And I have to go for dinner now

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:30 PM

Enjoy

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 06:44 PM

Ima back

Captain Crab 24-Oct-20 06:56 PM

Hello back

Topcrabsme 24-Oct-20 07:34 PM

Hello hello

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 04:46 AM

ddo u know what ts claimed

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 04:56 AM

I don't I didn't make all ccs yet

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:09 AM

I've gotten 4 tm claims and 1 tp claim

tk

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 05:10 AM

Townsfolk Killing Assassin Barber Cult Leader Executioner Huntress Mad Scientist Priest Witch

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:10 AM

whats a mad scientist

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 05:10 AM

Database error. Could not find role mad!

Mad Scientist | Townsfolk Killing Basics The Mad Scientist has two subjects, from two different teams. If killed, their targeted subject will also die. Details At the start of the game, the Mad Scientist is assigned two players. They interrogate their subjects and, before the Mad Scientist dies, they must choose one of the two assigned players to take with them to their death. They will have a secret channel together with their two targets, and they also have a channel alone, where they will decide on who they want to attack if they are killed. The Mad Scientist can choose a target, even if the target is already dead. The two targets are always on two different teams (excluding Unaligned), so either Town + Werewolf / Town + Solo / Werewolf + Solo. Attacking the other player is an immediate ability.

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:19 AM

tp?

oh wait nevermidn

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:20 AM

Town Power (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:20 AM

i thought it meant town protective at first glance

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:20 AM

I'm typing horrible today

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:20 AM

which doesnt exist here

u got a lot of claims wow

all my claims are cit

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

I now have 5tms including me and 1 tp

I don't know the role of tp but I know the rest

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

what kind of town power is it

oh

tp

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

Townsfolk Power Fletcher Grandma Hooker Medium Royal Knight Stalker

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

They didn't mention I didn't ask

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

gotta be medium or hooker right

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

Could be

Here is the thing

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:21 AM

those are the only ones used these days

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:22 AM

if someone asks if you are cc when you tell you are c are they sus

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:23 AM

i dont know

they might think a cc is more believable of a claim (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:11 AM

ddo u think its sus

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:12 AM

I feel like it is

They just went are you a cc and want me to hit up wolves for you

As I am a man with connections

Which is susalicious

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:13 AM

uh what

if its not 3let then thats pretty sus

well actually..... sounds like a joke

unless maybe u got checked my psychic wolf

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:14 AM

But I'm not cc tho

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

but are u cit

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

Yeah I am

wp

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

Werewolf Power Disguised Fox Infected Wolf Lone Wolf Saboteur Wolf Tanner

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

psychic wolf can only guess what u are

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

wm

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

Werewolf Miscellaneous Alpha Wolf Bloody Butcher Hellhound Packless Wolf Scared Wolf Sneaking Wolf Wolf Wolf's Cub

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

wi

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

Werewolf Investigative Lone Warlock Psychic Wolf Warlock

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:15 AM

yeah it's psychic wolf likely

Can't be warlock

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:16 AM

why cant it

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:16 AM

Cause that'd be op

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:21 AM

if pw really did check u

then u probably will die

if ur not cit

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:42 AM

I am cit and I didn't say any other role to anyone so unless the pw checks me as cit I probably won't die

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:42 AM

yeah

thats what i said

if it checks u as cit and gets false

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:43 AM

Yeah it'll get true

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:43 AM

if u die then i can assume ur not cit?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:44 AM

No lol if I die I'm still cit

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:44 AM

ok

im not wolf but if im to be honest

i dont really believe ur cit

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:44 AM

I am cit tho

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:45 AM

just being honest

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:45 AM

idk how I can convince you

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:45 AM

idk u probably cant

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:45 AM

Can you?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:45 AM

early on u were scared of claiming

then claimed cit

it doesnt really add up

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:46 AM

Someone adviced me to not claim anything day 1

After my assassin play

So I kept calm

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:46 AM

during this game or last game

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:46 AM

Last game

In graveyard I think

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:46 AM

but if u die n1

it doesnt really help anyone does it

if no one knows what u are

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:46 AM

Yeah that's why I didn't ckaim

Oh that way

Well you'll know when you get reporter

Or when town gets reporter

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:47 AM

yeah but some games never get reporter

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:47 AM

Not claiming is better than false claiming right?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:48 AM

is it?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:48 AM

I am asking you

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:49 AM

well

complicated answer

ur fake claim can give insight on what ur real role might be

or it can tell us psychic wolf checked u

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:50 AM

You mean if I die?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:50 AM

yes

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:50 AM

I see

Well I am cit and I be claiming cit all game

Are you cit?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:50 AM

yes

an upstanding citizen

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:51 AM

You're saying how my claim is not confirmed

But yours isn't either tho

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:51 AM

im the only citizen who voted in the election

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:51 AM

I was asleep

Cause the whole town sleeps late

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:51 AM

what no

i was roleplaying

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:52 AM

Lol alright

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:52 AM

and yeah im not confirmed, doesnt mean im not allowed to suspect u

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:52 AM

Fair enough

I guess you're confirmed for yourself

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:52 AM

yeah

im not gonna bring up about how im so sus

when i know my own role

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:53 AM

Yeah

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:54 AM

hey btw im writing an esaay on github

i mean

about open source projects on github

Q1. Discuss how open-source projects on GitHub benefit from not being proprietary and the nature of peer production that is conducted amongst the community using the platform. Q2. Propose and discuss a criticism of open-source projects on GitHub. Q3. Discuss how ideas of copyright and fair use might apply to or impact GitHub’s content. Q4. Discuss stakeholders in open-source projects on GitHub and provide a rights-based and a utilitarian analysis of its ethical legitimacy.

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 06:57 AM

Interesting

I don't much about github

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 06:58 AM

but dont u use it

for ur bot

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:01 AM

I do use it, But I don't know much about it

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:07 AM

theres a cool philosophical scenario an article uses about whats considered stealing (edited)

about copying intellectual property vs physical property (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:16 AM

@Topcrabsme u interested in hearing it?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:22 AM

Uh sure I could read it

Sry for the late response I was outside talking to my parents

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:22 AM

oh i was gonna recite it here

u can read it if u prefer though

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:23 AM

I'll read what you say

Or what you type here

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:23 AM

do u want the long or long but not as long version

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:24 AM

Either works

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:24 AM

it starts small and builds it way up to bigger scenarios

basically i would either start at the beginning or somewhere bigger

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:25 AM

Give me a quick briefing ig

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:25 AM

ok so

its made by the philosopher john locke

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:25 AM

I don't want to take much of your time lol

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:25 AM

idk if youve heard of him

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:25 AM

John Locke?

The guy who went to America?

Or is it someone new

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:26 AM

uh no thats Christopher columbus

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:26 AM

No no

Have you heard about the Roanoke Colony

And how it vanished

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:26 AM

he was from the 1600's

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:26 AM

That John Lock

Yeah

So not him then

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:26 AM

ill start at the beginning so u get the full picture

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:27 AM

Alright

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:27 AM

Locke makes the following case for a natural right to property. -First, people have a right to property in their own person. Nobody has a right to the person of anybody else. -Second, people have a right to their own labor. The work that people perform should be to their own benefit. -Third, people have a right to those things that they have removed from nature through their own labor

heres an example

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:28 AM

So the first thing says no slavery?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:28 AM

suppose you are living in a village, in the middle of woods that are held in common. One day you walk into the woods, chop down a tree, saw it into logs, and split the logs into firewood. Before you cut down the tree, everyone had a common right to it. By the time you have finished splitting the logs, you have mixed your labor with the wood, and at that point, it has become your property. Whether you burn the wood in your stove, sell it to someone else, pile it up for the winter, or give it away, the choice of what to do with the wood is yours.

(edited)

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:28 AM

Yeah that's understood

But what if I kidnap your pet/ farm animal

And kill it

and then sell it

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:29 AM

we'll get there eventually

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:29 AM

Alright

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:29 AM

so lets take this a step farther

and talk about property in terms of land

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:29 AM

Alright

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:29 AM

Locke uses the same reasoning to explain how a person can gain the right to a piece of land. Taking a parcel out of the state of nature by clearing the trees, tilling the soil, and planting and harvesting crops gives people who performed these labors the right to call the land their property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:30 AM

Alright

But what if someone already owned the land

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:30 AM

To Locke, this definition of property makes sense as long as two conditions hold. First, no person claims more property than he or she can use. In the case of harvesting a natural resource, it is wrong for someone to take so much that some of it is wasted. For example, people should not appropriate more land than they can tend. Second, when people remove something from the common state in order to make it their own property, there is still plenty left over for others to claim through their labor. If the woods are full of trees, I can chop a tree into firewood without denying you or anyone else the opportunity to do the same thing.

(edited)

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:31 AM

Won't people eventually run out of wood?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:31 AM

this is for the right of natural property

yes it doesnt apply to situations with few or no resources left for appropriation

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:31 AM

Alright

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

so now to extend it to intellectual property

u know what intellectual property is right

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

Not sure

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

creations of human intellect

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

I don't know much about properties

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

such as

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:32 AM

Alright so what people make baically

Like a car

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:33 AM

copyright, trademarks, patents, trade secrets

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:33 AM

Not physical items?

Wait wait wait

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:33 AM

yes physical items too

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:33 AM

Does that mean

You can edit my code

And call it yours?

Wait no it's not natural

There is no natural in code or manufactured objects tho

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:34 AM

many physical products are copyrighted

but intellectual property usually isnt physical stuff

itd be like

music, movies

video games

etc

u get the idea

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:35 AM

Yeah

But there is no natural in those tho

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:36 AM

heres the question

is there a natural right to intellectual property?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:36 AM

nope

If you make something from scrath perhaps

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:36 AM

its about ownership of ideas

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:36 AM

Like the creator of py

He made py

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:36 AM

so heres the examples

intellectual property is basically ownership of ideas

We'll compare creating a piece of intellectual property to making a belt buckle. In order to make a belt buckle, a person must mine ore, smelt it down, and cast it. To write a play, a playwright "mines" words from the English language, "smelts" them into stirring prose, and "casts" them into a finished play.

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:37 AM

It is his play, correct.

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:37 AM

here is some paradoxes and dillemas

scenario A

part 1

After a day of rehearsals at the Globe Theatre, William Shakespeare decides to have supper at a pub across the street. The pub is full of gossip about royal intrigue in Denmark. After his second pint of beer, Shakespeare is visited by the muse, and in an astonishing burst of energy, he writes Hamlet in one fell swoop.

(edited)

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:38 AM

What's the issue there

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:38 AM

if we apply locke's theory of property

shakespeare has the right to own hamlet, correct?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:39 AM

Looks like it yes

Unless someone told him the entire script in the pub

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:39 AM

he mixed his labour with the raw resources (being the english language) to produce the play

but heres the thing

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:40 AM

Was the idea his own?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:40 AM

we arent talking about the piece of paper which he wrote it on

we're talking about the words

the paper is just the way to convey them

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:40 AM

If I took the source code of py and copy pasted it and called it topy it's not my own

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:40 AM

What should Shakespeare get from his ownership of Hamlet? Here are two ideas (you can probably think of more): He should have the right to decide who will perform the play. He should have the right to require others who are performing the play to pay him a fee.

so far so good?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:41 AM

Hmm yeah

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:41 AM

so heres part 2

On the very same night, Ben Jonson, at a pub on the opposite side of London, hears the same gossip, is struck by the same muse, and writes Hamlet-exactly the same play!

according to locke's theory of natural rights to property, he should own it, correct?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

No

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

why not?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

Actually

Yeah

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

its like 2 people built the same house

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

But then his thory is flawed

Look

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:42 AM

they each own it separately

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:43 AM

If I wrote the play without talking to shakesphere at all then it's legit

If I didn't thats plagerism

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:43 AM

if 2 people make their own belt buckles, they both own it

one for each person

the issue here is

they cant have one for each person

because its an intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:44 AM

You mean they can't own the right to a buckle belt?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:44 AM

if they

went to the same mine

got the same iron

made the exact same belt buckle

they both own it

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:44 AM

They both own it (edited)

Yes

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:44 AM

but theres 1 for each of them

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:44 AM

Yes (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:45 AM

the paradox is that there isnt one for each of them

if its an intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:45 AM

All this is going right over my head

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:45 AM

basically

its impossible for both of them to get complete ownership

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:45 AM

Did they invent the buckle belt or did they make it off a blue print?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:46 AM

no no

the analogy is for natural property

not intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:46 AM

Okay no I don't understand this (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:46 AM

the belt buckle example is basically

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:46 AM

Let's stop

I'm not this big brain

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:46 AM

remember the natural property stuff i was talking about

with the farm and the woodd

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:47 AM

I think I do but I don't want to

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:47 AM

the belt buckle is basically just one of those things

a physical thing made with raw materials

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:47 AM

Each guys buckle is his own

I don't see where the issue is

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:47 AM

the paradox doesnt come into play if its a physical item

only if its intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

I

Werewolves Bot C BOT 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

Interrogator | Townsfolk Basics The interrogator interrogates one player each night, and can choose to execute them at the end of the night. Details Each day, the interrogator chooses a player to interrogate in the next night. The player will be able to communicate privately with the interrogator, and then the interrogator can choose if they want to execute the interrogation target or not. The interrogator gets a total of 3 executions, and can not execute night 1. If the interrogator executes a town role, the interrogator will lose all remaining executions.

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

Pls

I don;t want to continue this

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

i didnt even get to the second paradox

wow

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

I don't even understand what;s an interlectual property (edited)

Whats even this subject

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

intellectual property is an ownership of ideas

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

What is this subject

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:48 AM

computers in society

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:49 AM

WHAT

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:49 AM

i mean

computers and society

not in

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:49 AM

Look if they ask me to learn something like this in compurters and stuff I'm leaving

This mortal realm

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:49 AM

its a mandatory course

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:49 AM

I might understand what you're saying If I had patience rn

But I thought this would be a short thing and it's not

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:50 AM

i told u it would be long

ok what didnt u understand

ill explain it better

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:50 AM

If I say that

You'll continue

And I'm busy so I'd rather not

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:50 AM

yeah i want to get to the second paradox

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:50 AM

How long will it take

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:50 AM

well its the next thing i was gonna say

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

This has already taken 25 mins

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

the second paradox has to do witht he copying of intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

Okay tell me

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

i did say

if u wanted the long version

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

I'll make what I understand

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:51 AM

or the long but not as long version

im giving u the long version

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:52 AM

Is this like on a website

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:52 AM

no

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:52 AM

welp

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:52 AM

its an article

aka its from a textbook and they scanned it and posted the pages on the course website

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:53 AM

Alright this is taking a long time man

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:53 AM

so heres a slightly different version of the first story

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:53 AM

I didn't think it'd take so long

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:53 AM

One evening William Shakespeare stays up all night in a pub writing Hamlet while Ben Jonson goes to a party. The next morning Shakespeare returns to the Globe Theatre, but he carelessly leaves a copy of Hamlet in the pub. Jonson stops by for a pint, sees the manuscript, transcribes it: and walks out the door With copy of the play in his possession, leaving the ongmal copy where 1t was.

(edited)

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:54 AM

That's plagiarism (edited)

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:54 AM

its more complicated than that

he stole the physical copy

but not the intellectual copy

sorry i mean

he didnt steal the physical copy

he stole the intellectual property

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:55 AM

Still it's steaing right?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:55 AM

except it wasnt copyrighted material

yet

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:55 AM

I've actually faced this situation

When I was younger

My brother showed me some games he made on a rough book

And I thought it was cool and made like 20 more and showed it to my friends

Who then procedded to make it in thier own books

At which point I was mad at them for copying me

But then , "Do you have proof that you invented it?"

And that guy was more popular and strong so I had to stop

So eventually I stopped making games as people didn't care to credit me

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:57 AM

so heres the question. did jonson steal hamlet? shakesphere still has both the physical copy and the ownership of the property.

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:57 AM

That's why I'm so introverted

I say he did

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:57 AM

what he lost was

the right to control who will read, perform, or hear the play

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:58 AM

Yes

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:58 AM

do u call that stealling

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:58 AM

Maybe

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 07:58 AM

when you steal someones car

they cant drive it anymore

when you steal someones joke, they can both tell it

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 07:59 AM

Luffy Ill be honest I don't want to talk abt it anymore it

it's boring and hard to understand and brings bad memories

I get that it's something to do with stealing something not physical like an idea

You can't patent an idea

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

u didnt have fun discussing it?

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

not really no

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

~~i thought it was fun~~

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

I only have fun discussing things I'm interested about

Coding 100%

math physics 50%

And a few things idk 50%

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

i like asking people about paradoxes

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:00 AM

I would be interested if I was free

But I have a plan

To finish the bot

And do chem hw

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:01 AM

would have probably been easier to explain over voice

and faster

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:01 AM

yeah

Alright then cya later

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:01 AM

cya, i guess ill go to bed

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:01 AM

Gn

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 08:02 AM

~~now i know to ask other people for philosophy questions~~ (edited)

oh yeah btw this article was way longer, we only covered 6 pages of 20 (edited)

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 08:40 AM

oof

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 04:23 PM

Do you not thing 3let is sus at all?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 04:24 PM

No

I think hes town

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 04:24 PM

Does he do things like this?

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 04:24 PM

He could be wolf but im pretty sure hes town

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 04:25 PM

Alright I'll take your word for it

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:14 PM

Did you willingly not claim to 3let, @Captain Crab ? He's asking your claim to me

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:14 PM

I claimed to him

Hes just checking for holes in our stories

Topcrabsme 25-Oct-20 05:15 PM

Ah

So can I tell him?

I'll assume yes

Captain Crab 25-Oct-20 05:16 PM

Yeah

i already claimed to him anyways

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 03:37 AM

We're done for

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:10 AM

We're not in a good spot

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:37 AM

whats ur guess

on who dies tonight

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:38 AM

Someone with a vote

As most of the town is out of commission with the lynch tomorrow

Killing someone with a vote will secure the lynch for them

Unless they all voted log too

That is ME Sharl Fredrick and Cdw

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

what does that mean

someone with a vote?

Werewolves Bot C BOT 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

Angel | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics The Angel wins when they are lynched. Details When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues. On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. If they haven’t, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel. If nobody except the Angel has voted for the Angel, nobody dies. The Angel cannot select themselves.

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

everyone has a vote, dont they?

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

Wait what

When did that change

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

ur thinking of despot

Werewolves Bot C BOT 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

Despot | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics If the Despot is elected Mayor, they win. All players who voted for them as mayor will lose their public voting power for the next day phase. Details When the Despot wins, the Despot ascends and stops playing. The game continues. The votes of all players whose votes contributed to the Despot’s victory will be nullified the next day phase, for both the election and the lynch.

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:39 AM

hmm

I might've mixed that up

Well alright I don't have a clue then

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:40 AM

im guessing probably stein

since he seems to have gotten everyones claims and is working with ti

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:41 AM

Ye

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:42 AM

i dont have any claims

well i do but barely any

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:42 AM

I have a few

Mostly tm

Captain Crab 26-Oct-20 04:42 AM

its not easy to vote correctly without claims

im not even sure if we can trust stein though, since there are 2 roles that could have a disguise (edited)

Topcrabsme 26-Oct-20 04:52 AM

Perhaps

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:50 AM

i dont know if fed told you, or if he was lying to me. but he told me that he saw turtle as wolf

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:50 AM

He said the same to me

But we have to kill the fp first before thr wolves

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:51 AM

do u know who was enchanted

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:51 AM

I don't

Aren't they enchanted as the game starts?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:51 AM

i mean the new people added to flute player chat thing

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:52 AM

Yeah aren't they added to the chat as night ends?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:52 AM

no its whenever they submit the action

and the gm sees it

Werewolves Bot C BOT 27-Oct-20 03:52 AM

Flute Player | Flute Power Basics Each night, the Flute Player may enchant two players. If all living players are either enchanted or Flute Player(s), the Flute Player(s) win. Details Whenever a player is enchanted, they will join a secret channel with the other enchanted players, excluding the Flute Player(s). The Flute Player(s) may see everything said in this channel, from the safety of their own secret channel. If an enchanted player is a role like fortune teller, crowd seeker, psychic wolf or warlock, their powers will also be obstructed. Whenever they attempt to inspect/seek a player, they will have a 60% chance that the player is displayed as the Flute Player, and a 40% chance that they are displayed as their actual role (or the role the tanner has disguised them as). This effect will disappear once all the Flute Players are dead. The players are not told when the effect disappears. Enchanting a player is an immediate ability. If there are multiple alive Flute Players, then they are one team, and they will work together. If there is more than one player in the Flute Player channel, at the start of the night, each Flute Player will be able to enchant one player. If a Flute Player turns undead, they will lose their ability to enchant players, however if there is still one or more Flute Player(s) alive, the turned Flute Player will still be asked to enchant somebody.

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:52 AM

i believe its called an immediate ability

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

Enchanting a player is an immediate ability.

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

yeah it says so there

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

Yeah

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

ok im going to be honest with u

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

Did the fp die then

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

my real role is psychopath

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

Oh bruh

Am I on da list

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

and im pretty sure all my targets left arent town

no ur not

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:53 AM

We can't lynch you tomorrow anyways

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

dennis, turtle and dragon

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

Alright that's decent

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

are left

i made psy mayor cuz he was on my list lol

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

We'll need to kill thr fp tomorrow

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

i wanted to get him to die

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

i made psy mayor cuz he was on my list lol

Ah ha

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

it worked

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

Alright are you willing to work with town?

I would love to have someone I trust

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:54 AM

if turtle is wolf

according to fed

then i dont think anyone on my list is town

pretty sure dennis is solo

and dragon seems pretty evil too

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:55 AM

If turt is wolf , won't dennis be town?

They're both claiming journo

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:55 AM

thats why i said solo

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

Ohh

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

look lets count the tm

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

Me Stein Cdw ? ?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

raf?, psy, stein, you, cdw

thats 5

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

Ah psy

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:56 AM

raf might be solo though

if raf wasnt tm then leila probably is

one of them is probably the 5th tm

idk which one

dennis is definitely not town, he was being pretty manipulative and sabotaged the votes

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 03:58 AM

Me

Me You Dennis Leila Cdw

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 03:59 AM

whats that

but anyways, i think its safe to say that one of us is dying tonight anyways

and ill admit, i am a bit biased inn calling dennis evil cuz hes on my list

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:01 AM

I'm back

I was saying one/2 of those people are fps

Werewolves Bot C BOT 27-Oct-20 04:01 AM

Psychopath | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics At the start of the game, the Psychopath is given a list with one third of the town’s population, rounded up, on it. If all players on that list are dead, and the Psychopath is still alive, the Psychopath wins. Details When the Psychopath wins, the Psychopath ascends and stops playing. The game continues. If the number of players excluding the Psychopath is not divisible by 3, the number of players on the list is rounded up. The Psychopath can’t win when they are dead. Whenever they want, the Psychopath may strongly disguise themselves as any role.

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:01 AM

what if raf was ice king

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:02 AM

Could be

Wolf 3 , Fp , ??? , Psycho , 3 town

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:02 AM

i think the evils are probably dennis sharl dragon turtle

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:02 AM

Are the remaning people

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:03 AM

and maybe leila depending on what harper is

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:03 AM

If the wolves kill me they're throwing so hard

I mean Ig not really but still

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:03 AM

if harper is town then you will have equal votes with wolves, counting ur double mayor vote

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:03 AM

Oh yeah

I need to make no mistakes

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:04 AM

you, fed, cdw

and maybe 1 more

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:04 AM

Are you saying turt sharl and dragon are wolf cause they voted you?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:04 AM

so 4-5 votes

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:04 AM

nvm

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:04 AM

turtle cuz fed checked him

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:05 AM

Dragon didn't even vote in your poll

‍♂️

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:05 AM

dragon because he purposely didnt vote

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:05 AM

We just wasted Stein's sacrifice

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:05 AM

dennis cuz well

he was super anti-town

hes definitely working on a different agenda than town

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:06 AM

So you're not the fp

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:06 AM

sharl too, if u saw the opinions they made were in wolves favour

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:06 AM

It's Dennis or Leila then

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:07 AM

yeah

pretty sure theres only 1

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:07 AM

Yeah

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:07 AM

but theyre gonna kill me

most likely

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:08 AM

If they kill a unenchated person they're helping fp

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:08 AM

yup but fp wont win tonight if theres 1

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:09 AM

yeah

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:09 AM

I mean i think fp is dennis but then again im biased by my list

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:09 AM

If wolves kill fp tonight, will we know?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:09 AM

Nope

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:10 AM

hmm

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:10 AM

You will only know if people stop geting added to the chat

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:10 AM

Or we get a reporter but then it

it'll be too late

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:10 AM

Yup

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:10 AM

If they're trying to help fp they'll kill me

No reason to kill you

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:11 AM

I think Dennis because

Think about it this way

He wanted 2 non enchanted to be lynched

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:11 AM

It could be dennis

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:11 AM

That would make him win this night if he got what he wantwd

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:11 AM

I gtg now I'll be back in a bit

That would make him win this night if he got what he wantwd

Yeah

It's likely him

Ill be back later

cya

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:12 AM

Cya

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:51 AM

Heres the issue

Because we werent able to lynch 2 wolves yesterday

Lynching a fp would also probably give wolf majority

So its basically deciding if fp or wolf win

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:54 AM

I'm back

3w v 1fp v 1psy v 4 town

Hmm yeah you're correct

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:54 AM

Except ill be dead 90%

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:55 AM

If they kill 1 of town or you then it's 3 v 1 v 3 and we need to lynch the 1 person giving them majority

Now if they kill the fp

We're saved

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 04:55 AM

Yeah

We were supposed to lynch 2 wolf yesterfay

But we failed

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 04:56 AM

Yeah

They won't kill you

That would hurt their chances and they would gain nothing from it

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:02 AM

They think im fo

Fp*

Sad cuz i cant win if dead

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:03 AM

oh

Maybe tell your real role to avoid death

But then they'll ask your targets and murder you (edited)

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:03 AM

Yeah

I need them all dead basically

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:03 AM

You'd have to fake your targets (edited)

To them

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

Theyre all asleep

Except sharl

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

Sharl's awake?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

And i didnt get that extra cc

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

No one did

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

Hosts forgot to update it

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:04 AM

I didn't even get my role fam

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:05 AM

I mean the cc limit wasnt increased

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:05 AM

That's I'm saying lol

The hosts were busy

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:05 AM

Yea

Id have to kick someone

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:05 AM

Maybe @Werecrabs Bot can help?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:05 AM

I reused my ccs with dead people

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:06 AM

I have 1 like that too

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:06 AM

For fed and leila

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:06 AM

You're not in a good spot hmm

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:06 AM

Yup

I don't want wolves to win

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:07 AM

I want me to win

But that seems impossible

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:07 AM

There is actually 1 way u can lynch fp and not lose tomorrow

but it has like

5% chance of success

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:08 AM

Which is?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:08 AM

if sab wolf is dead

u would resign as mayor and make cdw mayor

then you would have enough votes

but sab wolf probably isnt dead

so i wouldnt risk it (edited)

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:09 AM

Hmm yeah

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:09 AM

but thats basically the only way

too bad sharl lived

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:10 AM

Yeah man that lynch sucked

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:10 AM

is the only way for wolves to lose

is if a solo wins

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:11 AM

Flute win is wolf loss at this point

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:11 AM

yea

tbh that sounds better than a wolf win

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:11 AM

Well we can't do anything let's just wait and see if you die

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:11 AM

flute players have never ever won before

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:11 AM

flute players have never ever won before

They have?

Well it's very long ago

My first game

The fp won

I was fp

But I lost

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:12 AM

was that before the games started becoming archived

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:12 AM

It was on the red server

idk if it's archieved

I think #deleted-channel

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:13 AM

oh

ur an old player wow

red server is run by different people

i looked at archives

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:13 AM

But I'm not in that gamelog

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:13 AM

cant believe they used to have 30 player games

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:14 AM

Okay nvm I have no proof it happened

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:14 AM

fp have never won in any archived game

believe me i just checked

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:14 AM

Unless some games are missing or my memory of my first game is completely made up idk

fp have never won in any archived game

Fp won in s4 that game lol

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

i checked

the only solo win in s4

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

I think it's s5

#deleted-channel

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

is vampire

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

I am in that game

I don't think town won

And I was the fp too

It occationally says I won

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

which server

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

Not I WON

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

red?

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

I enchanted

Red yea

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

oh

im only in green blue and purple

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:16 AM

I'm talking about red only

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:17 AM

red is like lcn

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:17 AM

I didn't play purp games till like season 4 or 5

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:17 AM

it died

thats what i heard anywyas

im not even in it

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:17 AM

Yeah my first game in purp was s5

Purp started just as I started being [Inactive]

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:18 AM

you did have an inactive phase on discord

hard to believe now that ur so active these days

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:18 AM

Indeed

I've just moved to online education so I have my laptop on all the time

It wasn't like that before

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:19 AM

i thought u had in person school

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:19 AM

I did

Now tho in India we don't have in person school

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:20 AM

i had to write a seven page essay due today. it was an essay on this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPx-0qDRroU

i submitted it with 3 minutes left

i wasted most of the day fighting to survive here instead of working

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:22 AM

Lol

Im watching it rn

It's a interesting clip

I have school today after 3 days

Or a week if you count exams

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:24 AM

school in 3 days?

or school today after having a 3 day break

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:24 AM

School today

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:24 AM

oh, that sucks

how did u find out about the ww servers btw

u seem to have been there for a long time

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

My friend invited me

During s5 game

In red

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

does he still play

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

He's no longer on discord

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

oh

do u know how i joined

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

I don't

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:25 AM

it was partnered with lcn XD

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

Oh

You were in Lcn?

How was that server

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

yeah thats where i came from

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

I joined there once but it was too big for me

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

its gone now

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

I generally don't stick around in big servers

its gone now

Gone?!

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:26 AM

i mean

it exists

but thats it

theres nothing else in it

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

No games no talk?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

yeah

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

Why?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

they banned everyone

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

eh

Seems counterintuitive if you're making a community server

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:27 AM

thats how saviet union was made

they use the same bot

although sum's bot was upgraded

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:28 AM

Yeah ik when I types !invite the lcn invites showed up

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:28 AM

they added commands and roles and game modes and stuff

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:28 AM

Yeah nice

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:28 AM

what do u consider to be a "big" server

100? 200? 300?

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:28 AM

My bots are made for my server you'd have to change a lot if you wanted to use it in another one

what do u consider to be a "big" server

Someplace where it's like too hard to get a sense of individuality with low time

OH HEK ITS TIME FOR MY CLASS

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:29 AM

oh ur not talking about member size

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:29 AM

Almost missed it talking to you

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:29 AM

oh darn i wish we could talk longer

have fun

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:29 AM

Im here

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:30 AM

yeah but... ur in class

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:30 AM

Mam might either be announcing marks and discussing answers

For which I might talk here

If she's teaching something new then I can't

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

when i was talking here

i basically missed 2 whole classes today lol

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

wow luffy

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

well i didnt miss them, i just wasnt paying attention

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

That's a pensive

Imagine if your teachers knew

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

its recorded anyways

all the lectures

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:31 AM

Still

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:32 AM

not that i usually watch the recordings XD

i usually just read the powerpoint slides

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:32 AM

You'd need to spend extra time re reading it

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:32 AM

was it worth it?

i lived

but at what cost

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:33 AM

Alright she's adressing exam paper uploading issues I can't talk

I'll ttyl

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:34 AM

ttyl

if ur still on before i sleep i can tell about how i joined lcn

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:34 AM

The thing is I have 4 continuous classes today

So no breaks in between

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:35 AM

oh

then maybe another time (edited)

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:35 AM

After game

Or if you live, tomorrow

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:35 AM

one of us is gonna die

most likely

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:35 AM

Either me or you yeah

I hope it's me tho so that cdw has a chance at mayor and you have a chance to win

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:36 AM

thanks

if you get into a scenario between choosing between wolf win or fp win

thatll suck

~~but i just hope wofl loses~~

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:39 AM

Mam's talking about how some people took pictures of horrible quality and couldn't correct it

A few people took it upside down or horizontal

‍♂️ (edited)

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:40 AM

lol i do the often but i always rotate it before uploading (edited)

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:41 AM

same

I take a good 10 mins making sure my thing is readable as my handwriting sucks

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:41 AM

yeah sometimes i put it on microsoft paint

and write over the words that are hard to read

with black

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:41 AM

Paint?

Wow

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:42 AM

if its faded in some parts

its to rewrite it

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:42 AM

How do you transfer files to your pc without losing quality

Like if I send it as a photo to my pc on whatsapp then it's of terrible quality

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:42 AM

oh theres a phone app called camscanner

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:42 AM

Cam scanner?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:42 AM

yeah its really good

yuo take a picture

and it makes the words black

as if they were typed

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:43 AM

Who is the producer?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:43 AM

idk

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:43 AM

There are 2 cam scanners

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:43 AM

in first year university

thats what they told me to use

been using it ever since

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:43 AM

Wait is it CameraScanner or CamScanner

CamScanner has only 3.6 stars (edited)

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:44 AM

cam scanner

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:44 AM

Alright

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:44 AM

it has 4.4 stars

when i search it up

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:44 AM

Alright let me see

My class started now so ttyl

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 05:45 AM

ttyl

ill send u a pic in dms of what it does

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 05:49 AM

Alright

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:52 AM

If the flute doesn't enchant anyone, isn't it better to finish off a wolf instead?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:52 AM

Yea

Of course it would

Wolves win if we lynch fp

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:53 AM

Why would the fp not enchant anyone

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:53 AM

But if fp doesnt win from us leaving them alone

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:53 AM

This is dumb

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:53 AM

Then its good

Oh idk

Maybe they're sleeping

Or are working with wges

Wolves*

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:54 AM

Either that or the hosts forgot

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:54 AM

I can think of 3 possibilities

1 Hosts fell asleep first

2 they wanted to decide after waking up

3 theyre working with wolves

4 some big brain strat i cant think of

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:55 AM

Why would they enchant someone if they're with wolves?

not enchant*

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:55 AM

In order to not die tonight

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:55 AM

Ohh

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:55 AM

Would be one reason

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:55 AM

Well that's kinda meh

Fp should know that can't win with wolves

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:56 AM

Its orobably 2 or 3

They're sleeping and wanted to decide after waking up

Or working with wolves to get u killed instead

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:56 AM

If they're working with wolves that's just dumb

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:57 AM

Idk, can u think of anything else

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:57 AM

I can't

But I don't think the fp is dumb

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:57 AM

If its dennis

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:57 AM

Dumb enough to forget

Dennis had ample time to enchant someone

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:58 AM

He seemed to be working with wolves

So i could believe that

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:58 AM

He would've left you and him and me and then peg us to death

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:58 AM

Im guessing cdw and leila join enchanted chat tonight

Cuz one of us will die

And he doesnt know which

Oh i just thought of something

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 06:59 AM

If wolves kill a unenchanted person they're throwing

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 06:59 AM

Maybe hes waiting until last second so wolves kill u

And then

Itll just be me and him unenchanted

And he probably thinks he can get me lynched

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:00 AM

And then he lynches you huh

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:00 AM

Yeah

Thats probably his plan

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:00 AM

I'll make the announcement that we shouldn't lynch you

But then they'll ask your role bro

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:00 AM

Anyways, fp does have to be awake to enchant someone

And cdw, leila, dennis are all sleeping

So its not gonna happen for a bit

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:02 AM

If the wolves kill a unenchanted person like you or me and the fp enchants 2 then it's a 50/50 chance for us

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:02 AM

Maybe

Heres another possibility

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:02 AM

What ever it is they will likely win if they enchant and we don't lynch them

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:02 AM

They enchant nobody. Hope that i die. Then hope that u die next night and then thats enough for them to win

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:02 AM

If they don't enchant no need to kill them

They enchant nobody. Hope that i die. Then hope that u die next night and then thats enough for them to win

Yeah that could be it

Then it's a 25% chance for town

So we'd have to not lynch an unchanted person

Sharl - Wolf? Dragon - Wolf? Fedrick - Ft Luffy - Psycopath Dennis - Fp Top - Cit Cdw - Macho Turt - Wolf Leila - Ranger? Is this what you have as well?

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:04 AM

That would make sense

Assumong harper was wolf

I guess that would make raf ice king

Whicj actually makes perfect sense

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:05 AM

If harper was town I'd rather just leave the game

I guess that would make raf ice king

That's the most likely

Also I know if Fed is wolf we've lost

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:06 AM

Hes not

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:06 AM

But don't you think Fed is just acting very sus

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:06 AM

Otherwise he would have lynched me

When it was tied

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:06 AM

he might just be doing it to keep our support

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:06 AM

Why keep the support of a guy whos dying tonight

Im more worried that cdw is wolf

Or fp

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:07 AM

It could be honestly

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:07 AM

Alright good night

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:08 AM

Gn Luffy

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:08 AM

Id say see you tomorrow but we both know that wont happen

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:08 AM

If you want me to do something type it here

Id say see you tomorrow but we both know that wont happen

I mean we'll see each other outside game lol

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:08 AM

If u have to decide between fo and wolf win

Fp*

Then, ill support whatever u choose

Although i think voting out turtle is what youd do if u want a fp win

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:09 AM

If I have to choose between wolf and fp I can't

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:09 AM

Wait i got an idea

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:09 AM

Turt is if fp isn't going to enchant someone (edited)

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:10 AM

Actually nevermind

I was gonna say u could do something to deceive people to gague reactions but i know thats not ur style

Topcrabsme 27-Oct-20 07:11 AM

Yeah I'd fail that

You better sleep this game isn't that hopeful

Gn

My class started

Captain Crab 27-Oct-20 07:11 AM

Yeah... good night

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