VIP Wolves Revamped - cat-heaven

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 02:18 PM

@Ueno, if you want, you can try to talk in #the-cat-room

I think I got the permissions right

Ueno 30-Jan-20 02:19 PM

Omg eo cool

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:07 PM

Ts is so gonna kill us

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:07 PM

Yep

#scared-wolf scares me

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:11 PM

Yep

We've done exactly what Ts is hoping we haven't

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:12 PM

Oh well

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:12 PM

He is so gonna explode if the wolves get killed quickly (edited)

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:13 PM

lookalike chooses wolf

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:13 PM

Hope so

Also weren't we supposed to have cupid?

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:16 PM

lookalike was in the original role list i sent

cupid was for 12p

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:17 PM

Ah yes

We only got 11

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:17 PM

yeah

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:18 PM

#scared-wolf is really scary now

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:18 PM

Ts is gonna kill us

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:19 PM

Unless the wolves somehow manage to do decently

If a wolf dies D1/N2, we're just done for

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:20 PM

Yep

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:20 PM

Now I really hope the lookalike chooses wolf

BTW I had an idea: announce the roles of the dead.

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:21 PM

Oh boi

We got reporter for that

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:21 PM

But I'm not sure if that works

Yeah I know

But this time public reporter

Because it's partial role list (edited)

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:21 PM

Maybe we should've said it before?

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:21 PM

Yeah

Point

This does change game style (edited)

Werewolves Bot C BOT 30-Jan-20 04:31 PM

Undead | Underworld Miscellaneous Basics The Undead are the vampire’s secret army. If a demonized player is attacked during the night, they will lose their original role and become an Undead. Details When a demonized player is attacked during the night, they are now part of the vampire’s team, and they have the same win condition as the vampire; they will win once all players are either vampire, dead or Undead. The Undead is one of the most complex roles in the game. The Undead is a dead player who pretends to be alive. They lose their previous role, but if they were part of a group like the wolfpack, they will remain in the channel and be able to vote as long as at least one other member of their group is still alive. However in cases like the wolfpack, their vote will internally count for 0 when calculating the decision of the group poll. If all members of a certain group have been turned their ability will be lost. If all members of a group are dead or turned, the group is disbanded.

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:32 PM

I personally think this whole voting thing is rather stupid

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:32 PM

wdym?

what voting thing?

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:33 PM

The roles having an effect on votes (edited)

That includes a lot of stuff actually

Grandma, Undead, Trickster, Angel, Despot etc

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:34 PM

oh the vote changing roles

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:34 PM

Some stuff like Mayor and Alpha wolf makes sense

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:34 PM

we had a whole offseason game with them

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:35 PM

Because everyone knows who mayor is, and it's conceivable that every wolf would know who the alpha is

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:35 PM

alpha can easily prove themselves

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:35 PM

But the others make absolutely no logical sense

That's not the point

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:35 PM

they're just roles

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:35 PM

That I dislike

I like having a decent backstory

Not just "just roles"

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

despot is basically corrupt mayor

Werewolves Bot C BOT 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

Despot | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics If the Despot is elected Mayor, they win. All players who voted for them as mayor will lose their public voting power for the next day phase. Details When the Despot wins, the Despot ascends and stops playing. The game continues. The votes of all players whose votes contributed to the Despot’s victory will be nullified the next day phase, for both the election and the lynch.

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

like 'you voted the wrong guys mayor, suckersss, im taking your votes' (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

Oh well despot is fine then

I thought it was like angel

angel

Werewolves Bot C BOT 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

Angel | Unaligned Miscellaneous Basics The Angel wins when they are lynched. Details When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing. The game continues. On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. If they haven’t, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel. If nobody except the Angel has voted for the Angel, nobody dies. The Angel cannot select themselves.

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:36 PM

angel doesn't take votes

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:37 PM

On all public votes the Angel starts out with -1 invisible votes

This makes no sense

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:37 PM

it has invisible votes so it cant vote itself

there have been cases where nobody votes and the angel then wins on his own, which is not the point

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

We can have mandatory voting of sorts then, that makes more logical sense to me tbh

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

yeah

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

There could be a no lynch option

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

oh i gtg to work btw

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

cya

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:38 PM

so see ya

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:39 PM

I've had this idea for some time now: a game with completely new roles (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 04:54 PM

jay is Wolf or Scared Wolf

or I will murder some GMs

Welp

Alice Howlter 30-Jan-20 04:56 PM

oh god

Lord of Galaxy 30-Jan-20 05:03 PM

And now we're dead

Ts = scary

Werewolves Bot C BOT 31-Jan-20 06:44 AM

Alternative Look-Alike | Unaligned Align Alternative Basics This role works the same as Look-Alike, but when this Look-Alike copies a player, the player will be notified that they have been copied by the Look-Alike.

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:23 PM

@Wyatt, you have unfortunately reached cat heaven. Welcome anyways

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:26 PM

WTF

Werewolves Bot C BOT 31-Jan-20 12:26 PM

wtf What The Frickety fruck, boi, the fuck

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:26 PM

why did Bart out me?

Makes 0 sense

Kinda tilts me slightly that I die due to a bad town play, but that how it goes sometimes.

I still have respect for Bart as a player, and I'm sure him and the rest of the town are more than capable of winning the game.

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:32 PM

The role list isn't exactly balanced, too many town roles that can confirm themselves

It's a big mistake on our part

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:32 PM

To be honest, yeah the rolelist looked really town-sided.

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:33 PM

It really is too town-sided

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:33 PM

No disguises, so if I live to N3, I can confirm most of town.

+ even if I don't, there's only TM which scum can claim (well), and I've already confirmed one. (edited)

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:33 PM

Yeah, I was really focused on making it hard for vampire, I made town too strong

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:34 PM

I'm kinda sad that town crier plan never went into action.

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:35 PM

I'm surprised wolves killed Town Invest N1

They were joking about getting Dennis, which would've also killed a powerful town role

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:36 PM

They killed me because Bart said I wasn't TM.

If I'm TP/TK/or TI it's super strong for wolves.

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 12:37 PM

Yeah

That's a mistake on Bart's part for trusting Ts with such info

Especially because he late knew more confirmed town

Wyatt 31-Jan-20 12:38 PM

Hold up

He said that

before I even claimed to him

So he lied to TS about me claiming.

On one aspect it makes me a little tilted that he used me as an expendable.

But on another it makes me respect him a lot more as a player for him to be willing to do that (because I do that all the time)

It's just unlucky that I happened to be CS.

And I did say I had no CCs left.

Not as bad of a play as I originally thought.

Jayanna 31-Jan-20 10:03 PM

sad

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 10:03 PM

You've reached cat heaven at least

Jayanna 31-Jan-20 10:10 PM

true

im with all the other mangled cats

Alice Howlter 31-Jan-20 10:10 PM

yes

Ueno 01-Feb-20 02:42 AM

Wowee!! How can i talk here? Am i dead?

I do say that i would like explore outside the cat room sometimes but i didn't expect to walk into here...

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:17 PM

oh my GOD

excellent twist

Werewolves Bot C BOT 01-Feb-20 12:19 PM

✅ Attempting to promote you, Marquise Arakos!

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:20 PM

i sure as hell hope i didn't mess up

the only hope for both the wolves and vamp are for them to work together

The question is, would that be game throwing?

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:20 PM

no

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:20 PM

In my opinion, it isn't (edited)

But some others before have said it is

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:21 PM

devil and wolves have worked together before

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:21 PM

As has the vampire with other teams

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:21 PM

exactly

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:22 PM

But for that ts has to survive the lynch

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:22 PM

which he won't

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:22 PM

for which dennis may have to sacrifice himself

if they lynch dennis

and then vamp+ts convert someone

And keep at it

Then the vamp can technically

win

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:23 PM

can I just say this was an awful rolelist

wolves are incredibly underpowered and town have several very strong roles

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:26 PM

yes

Also, @cryptidjay what exactly did you want me to mention about your mechanical arm thing in the story?

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:27 PM

just say mjn discovered me or something and that next to my body was a hand with googly eyes

(a mech hand)

(not a real one)

(that would be bad)

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:29 PM

googly eyes???

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:29 PM

yes.

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 12:29 PM

What exactly do you mean a hand with eyes?

cryptidjay 01-Feb-20 12:29 PM

read the second cc called arakos

it's not too long dw

Werewolves Bot C BOT 01-Feb-20 02:46 PM

✅ Attempting to demote you, Marquise Arakos!

✅ Attempting to promote you, Marquise Arakos!

Werewolves Bot C BOT 01-Feb-20 04:06 PM

Alive Players | Total: 8

- BartTheBart (@BartTheBart)

- Mjnstag (@Mjnstag)

- Chopper2112 (@Chopper2112)

- PsychoBelp (@PsychoBelp)

️ - McTsts (@McTsts)

- Dennis (@Dennis)

- VoidMist (@VoidMist)

- SpikedJackson (@SpikedJackson) (edited)

Lord of Galaxy 01-Feb-20 04:06 PM

Hmm if psycho sleeps with ts and ts kills himself, that would mean the undead win? (edited)

No

It would be a tie then?

Wow

no

the town still win actually

unless jackson also sleeps with ts?

If that happens I'd be really surprised

McTsts 02-Feb-20 10:16 PM

Finally

Werewolves Bot C BOT 02-Feb-20 10:16 PM

✅ Attempting to promote you, Lord Rubycrust II!

McTsts 02-Feb-20 10:24 PM

was a fun game

but the role list was

bad

I had fun though

so that's what counts

There could be a no lynch option

@Lord of Galaxy "$poll new cancel"

I had VoidMist & Chopper switched, Jayanna as CC instead of Runner, and Wyatt as FT instead of CS

pretty close

Alice Howlter 02-Feb-20 11:16 PM

nice

you immediately started with the role list

that was funny

McTsts 03-Feb-20 12:34 AM

wdym?

oh that my first message was a role list, I guess? (edited)

well it's a partial role list, so ofc I try to reverse engineer it

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 09:13 PM

to be fairwe had wyatt as cs for a while it was only the night i died we switched

Dennis 03-Feb-20 09:47 PM

If ts attacked spiked we'd still had a chance

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 09:53 PM

yeah

Dennis 03-Feb-20 09:53 PM

We wouldve won actually, if ts was on our side

I still feel a bit robbed

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 09:56 PM

imagine how robbed me and ts feel

two lonely weak wolves in a world of op town

PsychoBelp 03-Feb-20 09:57 PM

Dennis 03-Feb-20 09:58 PM

But like, town is so overpowered with undeads

Every role could prove themselves, with bard and all those

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:03 PM

so, may i ask, who did wolves attack each night

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:03 PM

Psycho last time

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

ohh you it was wyatt, you, psycho

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

n1. wyatt n2. dennis n3. psycho (edited)

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

Yes

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

wait

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

they didnt attack n4

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

yeah

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

why did they attack psycho

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

i should know i was a wolf

idk

i do not know

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

Idk

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:04 PM

i was dead

anyway now this game is over you can all feel free to sign up for the purple game tomorrow

:D

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:05 PM

but after playing here for two games i dont wanna go back (edited)

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

put it this way - more newbies mean ur more likely to win

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

false

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

Or lose by inactives

SpikedJackson 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

plus i like less people

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

also i made the rolelist and it should be pretty fun

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

Remember last game

That was horrible

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

we suspended all the ias from last game

they can't sign up

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:06 PM

Nice

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:28 PM

pretty sure Dennis told me to attack psycho?

cause he thought he may stay home

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:30 PM

when u make it to season 4 bronze by losing

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:31 PM

this doesn't count towards S4

it counts towards V1

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:31 PM

yep

honestly i dont play games anymore because in the last eight non miniwolves games i have played i have been wolf seven times and priest once.

this is not a hyperbole this is actually what has happened to me.

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:33 PM

I have only been town once

In my first game

Mjnstag 03-Feb-20 10:33 PM

Damn

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:34 PM

nvm

I have memory loss

I apparently was Baker once on VIP

I have 0 memories from that game

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:34 PM

i am the second worst person on vip according to current ratings

sorry log

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:34 PM

Cult Leader (S1G2) - Cupid (S1G3) - Devil (S2G8) - Lone Wolf (S3G1) - Baker (SVIP4) - Warlock (SVIP5) - Scared Wolf (V1G2)

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

wait what even was log last game

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

inactive

Mjnstag 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

Civ

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

Citizen

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

ohhh

damn the only person im better than was ia

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:35 PM

Chopper and Cryptid are tied for lowest points per game

Mjnstag 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

Its something right

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

which makes sense

PsychoBelp 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

I survived slightly longer than cryptid

so I get slightly more points

0.04 more

PsychoBelp 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

can i suggest making the document anonymous.

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

hm?

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:36 PM

subjective ratings though i should get better than you bc i was slightly more talkative

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:37 PM

I figured out more stuff

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:37 PM

all you did was logic

i played the game

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:37 PM

I sent 1.5k messages

Mjnstag 03-Feb-20 10:37 PM

Damnn

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:37 PM

you sent 660

Alice Howlter 03-Feb-20 10:38 PM

and like 1.4 of those were in #scared-wolf

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:38 PM

I admit 1.4k of those are monologuing

yes

nah

only 400

I started monologuing in #wolfpack at some point

1k messages in #scared-wolf and #wolfpack

320 for cryptid

so we're sort of equal outside of the SCs

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:39 PM

i think i should get extra points for putting up with ts' bs

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:40 PM

I think I should get extra points for targetting TI and TK

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:40 PM

Then i should get some extra points as well lol

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:40 PM

you didnt have to share an sc with him spending hours at a time coming up with bad strategies and monologuing about figuring out the role list

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:40 PM

they weren't bad

we sucked

if we hadn't killed TI and TK we would've sucked even worse

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:41 PM

I mean, what could I have done better? I honestly think I did all I could, the moment I became undead it was lost since town had a fool proof strategy

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

yeah

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

like if there's anything I should've done I would really like to hear it

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

that's what subjective points are for

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

I'm just curious about your solutions

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

ts and i get extra subj points for having shit roles

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:42 PM

well I saw one mistake

the whole VoidMist thing

but in general I think you did well

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:43 PM

what do you mean?

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:43 PM

you confirmed him

then you said oh no nevermind

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:43 PM

ok let me explain, it was a very hard decision lol

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:43 PM

but the point where you confirmed him was already too late

once you confirmed him it was unwinnable assuming everyone else is somewhat attentive

either way you probably deserve subjective points

and imo so do I

and cryptid

cryptidjay 03-Feb-20 10:44 PM

:)

ts get ur ass over to revamped

Dennis 03-Feb-20 10:46 PM

1. Confirm Void > Need to kill bart > Bart won't die > I'm bad 2. Deny Void > Need to kill Void > Void won't die > I'm bad 3. Pretend I made a mistake that void actually revoked it at night and got undead that night, so I attacked the wrong one > Small chance mjn and hookers are convinced

the other ways definitely wouldve got me lynched

but I think they didn't even read the reason why i claimed void was undead

since jack asked a couple times for that

The only thing I should've done is tell Ts to kill jack, but that's completely unknown at the point ofcourse. I didn't expect him to stay at home because I knew he did that the night before already (edited)

But I'm actually really interested in what others could've done

PsychoBelp 03-Feb-20 10:52 PM

can u explain 3

idk how that would work

is it that u say u shot void and he turned undead?

and the wolves just attacked hookers 2 nights in a row

McTsts 03-Feb-20 10:54 PM

not really anything you could've done

There was no way for anyone but town to win

BartTheBart 03-Feb-20 10:55 PM

you couldve said you would attack void instead and pinned the blame on him

cuz in that case you couldve convinced them i was undead and void was demonised and now undead

if you didnt confirm voids fletcher it wouldve made him more sus too, that couldve worked

though there was no way to win

PsychoBelp 03-Feb-20 10:59 PM

pretty sure we would have still lynched you tho

BartTheBart 03-Feb-20 11:01 PM

dunno

dennis does have an aura of trustability

im quick to believe him

Alice Howlter 03-Feb-20 11:01 PM

yeah

i get that

Dennis 03-Feb-20 11:02 PM

i don't

BartTheBart 03-Feb-20 11:02 PM

lol

Dennis 03-Feb-20 11:02 PM

irl im so bad at convincing people in games like these

but if i would attack void he would need to die, otherwise he would've still been a fletcher with his ability, turning undead, so no reason to lie about revoking (edited)

either way i could've made bart susp, but I would've still been lynched first

BartTheBart 03-Feb-20 11:08 PM

maybe if you lied about fletch

then said u kill me

then itd be my word agains urs

SpikedJackson 04-Feb-20 12:19 AM

Wait wtf happened to KingSlayer in S4G4B

Dennis 04-Feb-20 12:29 AM

Where can I find the logs?

Oh in the ratings

It says cheating but im not sure anymore why

SpikedJackson 04-Feb-20 12:33 AM