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Werewolves Bot B BOT 18-5-2026 18:38
@Montezuma | Aztec has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Yo-yo Loach @Montezuma | Aztec
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Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 18:38
hello
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Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 18:39
Helloooo
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Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 18:39
i was gonna wait more but now i can't be bothered
18:39
i'm the oracle
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Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 18:40
HELLOOOO ORACLE
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Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 18:40
n1 i checked kruthers as different alignment to me (random check) n2 i checked you and mat as different alignments (this is because, and idk if you've been told this yet, you were the person "outed" as bartender and i wanted to check you against a alcoholic claim in case you died)
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Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 18:41
That is good info!
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Yaaaay
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I hope my legacy is as good as the claims I’ve received so far lol
18:42
Did you claim to anyone else btw
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Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 18:42
no
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Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 18:42
Alright thank you!
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Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 18:42
no problem
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Montezuma | Aztec
n1 i checked kruthers as different alignment to me (random check) n2 i checked you and mat as different alignments (this is because, and idk if you've been told this yet, you were the person "outed" as bartender and i wanted to check you against a alcoholic claim in case you died)
Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 22:12
Was your night 1 check before enchanted was announced?
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Yo-yo Loach
Was your night 1 check before enchanted was announced?
Montezuma | Aztec 18-5-2026 22:15
yes, sharl announced the enchanted people incredibly late from what i recall
22:15
it seems like he announced it basically on morning phase change looking at the backlog
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Yo-yo Loach 18-5-2026 22:15
Alright thank you 🙏
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Montezuma | Aztec 19-5-2026 00:02
who am i checking
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Montezuma | Aztec 19-5-2026 00:29
also i've been doomed
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Montezuma | Aztec
also i've been doomed
Yo-yo Loach 19-5-2026 00:37
Okay
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Montezuma | Aztec
who am i checking
Yo-yo Loach 19-5-2026 00:37
Luffy - sin
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Yo-yo Loach
Luffy - sin
Montezuma | Aztec 19-5-2026 00:49
different
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Montezuma | Aztec
different
Yo-yo Loach 19-5-2026 00:50
Thank you
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 19-5-2026 14:39
✅ Added @Yuki_not_Cutler to the CC!
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Montezuma | Aztec 19-5-2026 14:39
tortle
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Yuki_not_Cutler 19-5-2026 14:39
Hello.
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 00:00
@Yuki_not_Cutler whomst
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bear in mind i could die tonight if im death doomed
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 00:01
Yeah, it sucks.
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Do Turtle and Sharl please.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Do Turtle and Sharl please.
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 00:03
different
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 00:03
Thank you!
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 00:03
kitithumbsup
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 21:06
i presume luffy is the other option for flute?
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:07
Hehe yeah, I made that kinda obvious given your checks, right?
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Do you have any thoughts on either?
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 21:10
well we'll see how phantom reacts to the lynch announcement, i don't have any good reads on either of them in terms of their public conversation - i think the thing that could be most indicative is the fact that flute player has been so distinctly un-talkative in enchanted channel. i feel like for someone who doesn't play the game very often like phantom not using whispers at all even just to dick around is kind of weird. meanwhile luffy plays a lot and i can see him just not talking as a strategic choice. it's not a very solid read and idk how theyve been acting privately but based on that alone im more inclined to think it might be luffy
21:11
but honestly it's a weak read
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it is the only one i rlly have tho
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:13
That's fair. You are not the first person to bring up Luffy. Maybe I'm being too lenient on him. The read is noted. The good thing is that everyone (should) want FP out, so any read trying to find FP is genuine regardless of alignment (this is more me talking to myself, because this game has been quite confusing).
21:14
There's also an aspect of what Phantom claimed vs what Luffy did.
21:16
Maybe I am confirmation-biased, but this strikes me as odd to say specifically for someone who plays infrequently: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1505174694947455096/1506702566845841508. This is Phantom's first and only mention of FP this game - and it's about how much they're talking. Like, why does that interest him? "Is fp even talking?" implies that the expected answer is "No", but I feel like in most games FP will say a couple of things? It's been a while since I played with FP.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Maybe I am confirmation-biased, but this strikes me as odd to say specifically for someone who plays infrequently: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1505174694947455096/1506702566845841508. This is Phantom's first and only mention of FP this game - and it's about how much they're talking. Like, why does that interest him? "Is fp even talking?" implies that the expected answer is "No", but I feel like in most games FP will say a couple of things? It's been a while since I played with FP.
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 21:40
i agree that's a weird way to phrase that
21:44
that honestly makes me lean phantom more
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:47
Hmm.
21:50
By the way he's acting in CC it's feeling kinda Flute-coded.
21:51
And Luffy has been very pure and derping in CC. Like he genuinely told me yesterday that he thought I was Oracle, but he'd keep quiet to not tell anyone. I know Luffy is a strong player that can fake a lot of things, but the way he's been talking has just been like incredibly pure and I don't feel like Luffy is like that as scum?
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 21:51
yeah that is true
21:51
i've seen luffy be really quite confrontational in games so him being more passive is indicative
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:53
He even asked who wasn't enchanted just an hour ago and I know it's bad, but on a level 0 I read him as not-flute for saying that... Idk. Phantom brought up some reasoning for why Mia is never FP that feels like tmi to me. Eh, I think if I lose to Luffy as Flute I'll accept that and move on tbh.
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 21:54
at this point if wolves aren't willing to give the info then that's all you can really do
21:54
do you have anyone who you are confident is wolf you can ask directly if they don't want to reveal a player?
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:55
There's some I feel like are quite likely wolf, but it's hard to differentiate between just wolf and solo this game.
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Montezuma | Aztec
n1 i checked kruthers as different alignment to me (random check) n2 i checked you and mat as different alignments (this is because, and idk if you've been told this yet, you were the person "outed" as bartender and i wanted to check you against a alcoholic claim in case you died)
Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 21:58
Why did you never push Kruthers harder btw
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Why did you never push Kruthers harder btw
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:01
from my perspective he could be UA, i assumed that you/hendy had better targets
22:01
i would have if you'd said "lol we don't really know who to lynch we're just going on vibes"
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:01
That's true
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Fair
22:02
You don't want to be Mayor do you? Oracle Mayor feels weird. What about Luffy for Mayor? I mean, if Luffy is FP the game is already over, but he feels pure.
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:03
i don't mind being mayor if you don't think you'll need more checks from me after tonight
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:03
Well to be honest all of your checks have been affected by Flute thus far except N1, no?
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:04
if you know luffy isn't wolf then ig luffy mayor is also fine
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:04
Maybe you're better to keep around.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Well to be honest all of your checks have been affected by Flute thus far except N1, no?
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:04
ah, oracle isn't affected by disguises
22:04
so no
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:04
They're affected by Flute thingy though
22:04
Obstruction or whatever
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 20-5-2026 22:04
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Pipenspiller [Solo Power - Piipe Team]
Basics
Each night, the Pipenspiller may enchant a certain amount of players. If all living players are either enchanted, unverbungen or Piipe team/channel members, the Piipe team wins.
Details (1/2)
Whenever a player is enchanted, they will immediately join a secret channel with the other enchanted players, but without the Pipenspiller(s). The Pipenspiller(s) may see everything said in this channel, from the safety of their own secret channel. If an enchanted player uses a role investigation, they will have a 60% chance that the player is displayed as a Pipenspiller, and a 40% chance for the inspection to happen normally, whenever they attempt to inspect a player. This effect will disappear once no members of the Pipenspiller channel or team remain. The players remain enchanted, but their investigations are no longer obstructed. The Pipenspiller is able to enchant 1 player for every ten players in the game (rounded). They may not enchant a member of the Piipe team or channel. If there is more than one flutist player, each Pipenspiller will only be able to enchant 1 player for every twenty players in the game (rounded).
Details (2/2)
The amount of players used is the amount of players that are part of the game, not the alive players. If there are multiple Pipenspillers, then they are one team, and they will work together. If a Pipenspiller loses their role, they will lose their ability to enchant players. Role changes are not revealed to the other Pipenspillers. It is never revealed to the Pipenspillers how many or which players have been enchanted.
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:04
pipenspiller
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:04
If an enchanted player uses a role investigation, they will have a 60% chance that the player is displayed as a Pipenspiller, and a 40% chance for the inspection to happen normally, whenever they attempt to inspect a player.
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Montezuma | Aztec
pipenspiller
Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:05
pipenspiller
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:05
hang on
22:05
let me check the rulebook lol
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cause it specifically lists disguises vs redirections/obstructions
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ok according to book only redirections that exist are flute apprentice and assistant, which doesn't apply to oracle this game flute player disguise thing is classed as an obstruction, however the oracle desc doesn't specify if it is affected by obstructions
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@Host is oracle affected by the enchanted investigation obstruction thing or no
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Montezuma | Aztec
if you know luffy isn't wolf then ig luffy mayor is also fine
Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:11
Yeah, I unfortunately can't be 100% on this. I may just have to make conf-town Mayor
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:12
yeah
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 20-5-2026 22:15
Alive Players | Total: 11 🛠️ - mctsts (@Chat GPT) 🐼 - kruthers (@Cute Neighbor) 🍞 - gabbingabout (@Pulmonologist) 🐦⬛ - basscy (@Cutie) 🌌 - sharleclaire (@Roche Braziliano) 🦎 - shapechange (@Dragonborn Paladin Yuki) 🎨 - captainluffy (@Uzumaki Naruto) 🐢 - mister.turtle (@Yuki_not_Cutler) 🐓 - jeand.arch (@Archie_not_cutie) 🕯️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Easter Parader) 🧋 - thekremblin (@Montezuma | Aztec) (edited)
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:15
N1: krem and kruthers: different teams N2: Hendy and mat: different teams [enchanted] N3: Luffy and sin: different teams [enchanted] N4: Turtle and Sharl: different teams [enchanted]
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You've checked 5/11 on this list
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Phantom dies
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5/10
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I know some claims off the list anyways.
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Yeah, we probably only need you for one check
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I think you can be Mayor
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Montezuma | Aztec
@Host is oracle affected by the enchanted investigation obstruction thing or no
Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:19
Fwiw I asked Hosts this a couple of days ago and they said yes.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Fwiw I asked Hosts this a couple of days ago and they said yes.
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:20
uglysmile
22:20
bruh
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:20
I didn't bring it up, sorry, lol, I just wanted to gauge your reaction.
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I still think you're town fwiw
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I need to stop saying fwiw
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:20
LMAO
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:21
Okay, I'll announce you Mayor
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Yeah, we probably only need you for one check
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:21
yeah go on then
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:21
I've ran this game on hopes and prayers and risks and pure baselessness and we haven't lost yet, so I'll see how far I can push it
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:22
EM_cheercat
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:23
Maybe it ends after the lynch! Only time will tell
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:23
phan is voting me on the mayor poll but hasnt said anything about the lynch lol
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:30
Yeah, we've been chatting in CC
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He's defending himself and it's all good and well, but I don't know if it feels towny.
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I feel like he semi-slipped by implying something that implicates him as Flute (I can be more specific if game continues after phase change).
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Like he gave me reasoning for how he can't be flute. And then I point out that that reasoning can only apply if he is specifically Flute. And then he went like "I'm stumped, maybe you have wrong info" which idk. It's not un-towny, it's just a weird line of defense.
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:36
💀
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if u end up being right i really wanna know what that reasoning is lol
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:36
I hope so.
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I think this game broke my soul.
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I want town to win, but I also want it over.
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:47
Phantom claiming non-Flute scum now 👀
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:48
daamn
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Phantom claiming non-Flute scum now 👀
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 22:49
i mean you know who's been doomed, if he's claiming horseman it's easy to disprove if he's lying
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 22:49
Yeah, I told him I need details.
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If he's wolf he'd need to give me the roles of his dead teammates. Pretty sure town-trusted knows more than Flute can fake too.
22:49
Seems like a late last-ditch effort
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Makes me happy to know that I think I chose right.
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 23:03
Okay, I think I'm getting ahead of myself, there's still a ways to go.
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Montezuma | Aztec
@Host is oracle affected by the enchanted investigation obstruction thing or no
Cat Coded Dog 20-5-2026 23:10
Oracle is obstructed when they are enchanted, not when other people are enchated
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Cat Coded Dog
Oracle is obstructed when they are enchanted, not when other people are enchated
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 23:11
yeah i got that part, can you put in the gm suggestions channel that the oracle desc should be updated to reflect that it is affected by redirections and obstructions
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 23:32
Low-key his info he's giving on wolf team isn't even wrong, but it's kinda too little too late now.
23:32
Eh.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Low-key his info he's giving on wolf team isn't even wrong, but it's kinda too little too late now.
Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 23:34
if he was really wolf a different wolf would have contacted u imo, since they know if u lynch wrong they all lose too
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 23:34
Yeah.
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He's saying his play was dumb and he may get the gross negligence tag, which makes me believe him. But I also think if he's actually wolf, then Mia was the FP ngl.
23:35
If Luffy is the FP ggs.
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Wait actually that can't be
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No it can be, I guess.
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I don't know, like I can't switch to Luffy because I read him town and I'll take the loss on behalf of town if he's FP here.
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Also don't want to switch at 25 minutes to phase change
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Montezuma | Aztec 20-5-2026 23:36
yeah
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it is what it is
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Yuki_not_Cutler 20-5-2026 23:37
Yeah
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Yuki_not_Cutler 21-5-2026 00:02
Okay, let me see who you can check.
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Yuki_not_Cutler
N1: krem and kruthers: different teams N2: Hendy and mat: different teams [enchanted] N3: Luffy and sin: different teams [enchanted] N4: Turtle and Sharl: different teams [enchanted]
Yuki_not_Cutler 21-5-2026 00:02
Let me x-reference.
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Actually, maybe we wait until enchants?
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There's a world in which Luffy is FP and doesn't know who the UA is so can't enchant correctly?
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 21-5-2026 00:04
Alive Players | Total: 10 🛠️ - mctsts (@Chat GPT) 🐼 - kruthers (@Cute Neighbor) 🍞 - gabbingabout (@Pulmonologist) 🐦⬛ - basscy (@Cutie) 🌌 - sharleclaire (@Roche Braziliano) 🦎 - shapechange (@Dragonborn Paladin Yuki) 🎨 - captainluffy (@Uzumaki Naruto) 🐢 - mister.turtle (@Yuki_not_Cutler) 🐓 - jeand.arch (@Archie_not_cutie) 🧋 - thekremblin (@Montezuma | Aztec) (edited)
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Yuki_not_Cutler 21-5-2026 00:04
No
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He would just enchant the UA either way.
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Okay, we're chill then.
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Hey, check Bass and Gabb, please. @Montezuma | Aztec
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Yuki_not_Cutler
Hey, check Bass and Gabb, please. @Montezuma | Aztec
Montezuma | Aztec 21-5-2026 00:11
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