Werewolves Revamped - alrdhshaoffkrk

@Easter Parader has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Easter Parader @Yo-yo Loach

Hi I just woke up

20:49

Give me a couple seconds to backread rq

Alright

k

20:50

Did puzzle notify you of my role?

Yeah

20:52

Oracle?

Mm okay yeah

20:53

Do I even claim then lol

20:53

You already know

Just verify the info I got I guess lol

Well I checked luffy and jay as different n1 Mat and I different n2 Got in contact with puzzle d2 since I got busy

Alright thank you

@Easter Parader check me against sin

Sunny?

Sinisfuel

Alive Players | Total: 17

- mrpuzzlecodes (@Breezy_Yuu)

- mctsts (@Chat GPT)

- kruthers (@Cute Neighbor)

- miaa_006 (@Mia Winters)

- gabbingabout (@Pulmonologist)

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- basscy (@Cutie)

- sharleclaire (@Roche Braziliano)

- matstress (@Melina Warner)

- shapechange (@Dragonborn Paladin Yuki)

- captainluffy (@Uzumaki Naruto)

- mister.turtle (@Yuki_not_Cutler)

- hendawy361 (@Yo-yo Loach)

- jeand.arch (@Archie_not_cutie)

- ddd8000 (@Yuki)

- phantomtomicbomb (@Easter Parader)

- thekremblin (@Montezuma | Aztec)

- sinisfuel (@Dean's List Yuki) (edited)

Last one

K will do

Thank you

Different

Thank you

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Added @Yuki_not_Cutler to the CC!

Hi turtle

Hello

Hi

13:51

What’s going on

13:51

I’m going to cry

Same

13:53

We can cry together.

Thank you crying is a wonderful multiplayer activity

The good news is that if you're real the Sin kill was good.

Well, duh

14:44

Good thing mat’s killed too

14:44

Still makes me cry though I really don’t know what’s happening

Easter Parader

Good thing mat’s killed too

Yes, we got Horseman to thank for that one ngl.

That’s why they’re the best solo team

Do you want to claim membership of them btw

What

14:50

Be forward

It was worth a try

14:52

You're the most believable Oracle claim, but it would be reckless to just trust you based on reads as well

Well that’s understandable, just don’t go randomly adding scum to tt please

I won't

Um want me to cc ddd

The more the merrier. Unless you think it's too risky, but it should be fine.

Well I obviously prefer not to randomly get wolves focused on me, duh, but sure I can try

16:14

What would be better tanner warlock or horseman?

It's okay I guess

17:43

I know there are some people that did it. Hopefully it obfuscates a bit.

Oh thank you

I'll give you someone to check in a moment.

22:44

If possible check as soon as you can (considering Flute Player enchantments).

Sure, what’s the check?

I'm leaning Kruthers and Krem right now, but it may be subject to change (before phase change ofc)

you don't want to check yourself/mia?

22:51

/ as in or btw

I'm thinking

22:52

It's probably smarter, yeah.

22:53

I just feel like it'll yield a different result no matter what low-key regardless of your alignment and doesn't help me know what scum they are, but I guess Oracle is hard to get concrete info with

at least disguises are useless against me

Yeah, but the second you're enchanted your utility drastically declines

22:54

If only I could take your info at face value and you didn't have counter-claims, I'd feel much better

Yuki_not_Cutler

Yeah, but the second you're enchanted your utility drastically declines

wow ok calling me useless

Actually, stay on Krem and Kruthers for now

Easter Parader

wow ok calling me useless

Lol sorry

22:57

But !!!

22:57

I don't know, this game is cursed.

22:58

Whoever put Oracle in a 4 alignment + 2 UA game is evil (aka Yuki)

Yuki_not_Cutler

If only I could take your info at face value and you didn't have counter-claims, I'd feel much better

I recommend you take my info at face value anyways <3 <3 <3 please

It's tempting.

22:59

You're like Oracle #1 right now in terms of believability. I may be willing to take risks, but I'm also not that reckless, though.

Yuki_not_Cutler

Whoever put Oracle in a 4 alignment + 2 UA game is evil (aka Yuki)

welllll tbf both ua are considered same

Seer [Dorpbewunner Investigative]

Basics

Every night, the Seer can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Each player can only be selected once.

Details

Each night, the Seer can inspect two players. The Seer will be told whether they have the same alignment. The Seer can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Nonaligned roles have the same alignment as each other: roles with differing alignments do not. A nonaligned role does not have the same alignment as an aligned role. Some unverbungen roles may gain alignments during the game (e.g. Amor). The Seer is not affected by disguises, but is affected by redirections.

Yuki_not_Cutler

You're like Oracle #1 right now in terms of believability. I may be willing to take risks, but I'm also not that reckless, though.

check dead spec and it won't be a reckless decision anymore kittythumbsup

Oh, true.

Easter Parader

check dead spec and it won't be a reckless decision anymore kittythumbsup

Pls.

don't pls me just use your alt

What alt

23:01

Brb logging into my alt @Evil Ts

your alt @ihateturtles

Wow.

23:03

Such slander.

23:04

I could never.

that's what they all say

Please check Krem and Ts instead.

ok ok ihateturtles

okkkkkkk checking now

Thanks.

sigh

00:02

they're different

00:02

are you purposely enabling my different streak

00:02

brb

Bruh

This makes me sad

00:12

But thanks either way

@Yuki_not_Cutler smh

21:23

You’re by technicality trusting the other oracle?

By what technicality?

Lynching me means you think I’m not oracle and my ctc is Now obviously, fp wins first anyways, but it’s still disappointing to hear

It doesn't really have to do anything with your Oracle ctc. You're one of two possible FPs. I think the other one seems to be less likely FP. I may be wrong. I guess implicitly I'm trusting another Oracle over you, but I don't really trust any Oracle claim currently, given that I have three of you. It's like an Oracle orgy.

Well, lynch the other then

21:37

If there’s three oracle claims as you say, mia basically isn’t flute, unless you’re expecting a horseman or unaligned to claim oracle to you That 33% assumption would’ve been gone from the start and lynching me results in our loss

I'm not sure I get what you mean with Mia not being Flute due to the Oracle claims?

Well, if you have three oracle claims, the spread is near guaranteed town, wolf, flute Since you said that one flute died, this means one flute is alive rn, making mia not flute Yes the spread can be different, but that’ll go into horse and unaligned territory

Yeah, I was considering HM too. Because the game is really messed up. Hmph. But yeah, Town/Flute/Wolf is more likely.

21:51

I also doubted that Mia was FP as I said, but yeah, based on mechanics I brought up 33% without considering it.

Horse, a very endgame role, is basically never going to claim oracle ever to an early tt, especially with basically no way to investigate

21:56

So what I’m saying here is that you really need to think this through, it’s serious and there’s zero breathing room

Yeah, I get that. I'm at the either or split here. I just think the other player has less equity of being Flute. Fwiw you're not up against an Oracle claim, so if we apply your logic of Oracle being Flute/Wolf/Town - and the other two Oracle claims are enchanted - then you'd be the Flute Oracle? Since I know that the UAs haven't claimed it.

Ok well I’m stumped now. Maybe you got something wrong? I really don’t know what’s going on in the inside, but I don’t think any team would double claim. Horseman oracle is stupid no matter how hard you look at it, especially from a d2 perspective I think in that case it could be town, wolf, warlock? I really don’t know what else to tell you here though. Literally the only info I have are my checks. And they don’t tell me much (other than mat and sin scum ig) considering I don’t even know the specifics for who I check. It’s basically all reliant on you

That's fair.

22:23

I considered Town/wolf/Warlock

22:23

It's just that with FC Oracle makes a lot of sense, especially given the context of 3 Oracle claims.

Yuki_not_Cutler

You're like Oracle #1 right now in terms of believability. I may be willing to take risks, but I'm also not that reckless, though.

Like, I think you've been really towny and I wasn't even lying here.

22:24

It's just that given the circumstances of enchanted vs unenchanted, I can't ignore the FP equity both your claim and then some stuff you've said recently has brought on

22:25

And like, as said, I'm basing this on a read and maybe I'm cooked

What stuff?

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1505174694947455096/1506702566845841508

22:25

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1505174694947455096/1506702443214278811

22:26

Given that FP has posted one message all game, it feels like tmi (i.e. you're aware of this fact) when you say that?

22:27

Like why is your default assumption that FP hasn't been talking? Or why is your focus/first mention all game of FP when I bring it up the amount of content in enchanted channel? Which has probably been the most out-of-the-ordinary behavior for Flute this game (usually they yap or meme a bit)

22:27

Idk, that threw me for a loop.

Those were genuine questions, it feels like there hasn’t been much enchant talk recently. No enchanted people pinging or saying what fp says which is usually the norm

Hmm, fair, I also did think I could be confirmation biased, but it still pings me a bit.

Like, I didn’t even know you and gab were enchanted until I specifically asked today Even thought flute might’ve died off

Easter Parader

Well, if you have three oracle claims, the spread is near guaranteed town, wolf, flute Since you said that one flute died, this means one flute is alive rn, making mia not flute Yes the spread can be different, but that’ll go into horse and unaligned territory

Secondly, it was you default-expecting the spread to be Flute/Wolf/Town, which is fair and makes sense, but honestly I was first thinking packless/Wolf/Town given the WI packless, so this also felt like TMI-y to me. The certainty on a Flute Oracle (which only exists if you are Flute).

Easter Parader

Like, I didn’t even know you and gab were enchanted until I specifically asked today Even thought flute might’ve died off

Yeah, there has been little flute yap, I'll give you this.

Yeah, it’s plausible, but it’s not an ft like claim but rather something warlock can’t excel much in being alone, can also cause in wasted checks to save themselves when they can go for something simpler Unless warlock found pack, which in that case goes back to my double claim point And to be honest, I didn’t even consider warlock being a thing when I sent that. Feels like the only mention of it was from ddd’s ping and the rl

Yeah, well honestly this game has stumped me pretty much either way.

22:39

If you are Flute or if you aren't.

22:39

There's so much cursed in this game.

I’m really not :( you’re going to get all of us killed

It's okay, you can blame me

I'm a bit resigned.

22:43

Like, it's a 50/50 and I've picked my side. And if I'm wrong, I'll accept it and take the blame. But given what I was given this game in the form of info (i.e. not a single TI), I'm doing the best I can.

Sigh

22:46

What if I told you I’m a non-flute scum?

I'd need details.

Which kind

What alignment, preferably what role. Depending on the alignment, what dead teammates you have.

22:48

Or lack of team-mates, I guess.

I’m not at liberty to tell you this, I’m right next to losing

If you're being mis-lynched as scum and FP wins 100% of the time right now and the only way to stop this is to out yourself, then I don't really know what's stopping you, but that's up to you to decide.

22:51

I can't trust a scum claim unless you can confirm that you are that scum.

Well, I’m attempting to stop this rn This is the info I’m giving you, I can’t let you have a 100% certainty and take advantage of it later Saying this has already basically hurt most of my chances already (edited)

Sorry, I just can't trust that it's truthful.

Well, what’s the least info I can give for at least a bit of confirmation then?

If you're HM, I'd need past dooms (since I know who has been doomed). Even one per night suffices (if you don't want to out what HM you are). I already know the dooms, so this doesn't effect you. If you are Psycho, then whoever is on the list. If you are wolf, I'd request not living teammates, but the roles of your dead teammates. I know them, this is not novel information to me, it's just to confirm you.

To be honest, even I don’t know for certain lol. I don’t have rep powers

23:08

Scared wolf died, Wolf died Idfk where packless went

Easter Parader

To be honest, even I don’t know for certain lol. I don’t have rep powers

Surely you'd know your teammates.

23:10

So you are 2 people in pack rn?

Yuh

Yuki_not_Cutler

Surely you'd know your teammates.

I mean, I don’t see what that changes. Mat scared wolf, ddd wolf

Can you claim who contacted ddd with his packless request

I am so honest here, but I genuinely genuinely don’t know. ddd straight up went silent after he said there were nobody ccing

Genuinely the only way I can trust you is if you get your teammate to vouch for you.