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@Archie_not_cutie has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @The Superarchitect @Archie_not_cutie

uhh i can leak some of the pack and not spread infection around if i get lynched, and like surely you have some idea of who will be dying to plague anyway on this night

I mean I like the sound of that but I'm genuinely not sure if we're allowed to do that

I mean it wouldn't go against my alignment and town would onlu gain from it

Yeah but I'm not sure if we're allowed to lynch you knowing we'll lose somebody

09:22

I guess if you give us verifiably useful info it could be valid?

krunters mat bovine ddd and sin dont seem to be pack, I know 1 other guarantee pack, they want me to spread infection to hend and krunters with my emergency change, i only spread it to hend

@Archie_not_cutie can you add sulapi

12:09

I'm a bit busu

Alive Players | Total: 14

- mctsts (@The Superarchitect)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Archie_not_cutie)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Arch of Titus)

- hendawy361 (@Hendarch361)

- bovine. (@Winged Bovine Arch)

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- basscy (@Wellington Arch) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Arch the Yeen) yeen2

yeen2

- ddd8000 (@aaa9000)

- matstress (@Victory Arch)

- sulap (@Arch si Pesulap)

- kruthers (@Admiralty Arch)

- happyxsocks (@The Happy Arch)

- sinisfuel (@The Evil Arch)

- thekremblin (@Arch of Constantine) (edited)

12:11

Added @Arch si Pesulap to the CC!

ok they want me to infect alex next, I'm waiting with it

12:12

if i can get lynched i wont infect anyone else

ok so hend and krunters arent pack

Wait your claiming plague no w?

what?

12:25

targeting spreads plague

12:26

so its only 3 pack left alive right

Okay so angel

12:27

Okay

@Archie_not_cutie did you approach kal claiming to be plague?

... uhh swurtle checked me and who do you think im getting all that info from

14:23

i also know 1 more pack other then kal

14:23

that im only going to share if i can get lynched

hey hey I know who plauge is and can tell yous just before getting lynched ofc I would actually have to get lynched and a guarantee that you wont switch it off me last second @Participant

Archie_not_cutie

hey hey I know who plauge is and can tell yous just before getting lynched ofc I would actually have to get lynched and a guarantee that you wont switch it off me last second @Participant

i visited you n2 so if you didnt tell we will both die tomorrow if im visited

15:01

uglysmile

yeh thats why i wanna get lynched cause i know i die duh

15:08

so im willing to tell yous who it is

15:08

so more people dont die

neither wolf or town has guarantee from you you'll not betray us if you get lynched with plague rn

15:11

but from my pov if wolf and plague is gone today then plague disappears, we are both safe tonight and by the time only the inactive wolfs are left i can give you the lynch because even you taking a town is ok

15:11

meanwhile wolf dont care if you die tonight or not

15:12

you might still need to side with wolf for votes later on but you need to get plague lynched right now at least to secure your winning condition

15:14

or you can give me fake plague name and then we both still die tonight

im gonna consider my situation a bit more and get back to you

Ok can you give me a claims list and like full repo info, that shouldn't hurt yous, and then I could share all of the info I know, since I probably wont be getting lynched today, ill probably like keep a bit of the info to myself maybe like the last wolf like so i can guarantee the win for myself you know, like give me some incentive to work with yous

i mean i think i can share our planned last wolf lynch but what do you think @The Superarchitect

Idk

ill vote if I get the info i want @The Superarchitect

I don't really see how it helps you

16:00

Imo the best outcome for you is a live loss atp

16:00

No team is allowed to sacrifice somebody to have you win

16:00

I'd love to lie and say we can make you win but we cant

16:00

And if wolves are saying they can they're lying

16:00

Your only goal is to have the game end asap

16:00

So you don't die to plague

16:01

So if you can somehow find the plague bearer and have them killed that's optimal for you

cool with claims list i can find you the pb

16:02

i have a vauge idea

16:03

i know who its definitely not

Uh I feel like we'd have to carefully evaluate that

and thats why im saying i can give you the info only if i get lynched, like i can have it prepared for you to send a minute before end of day so you can have the info, like... im still trying for a win here and i belive town can afford to lynch me and still win

Then we have to reevaluate tomorrow

look, share the info you have, and I can review it, if i see i cant win ill work with yous for a live loss

16:07

as that would be my best play

You might be right but plagues still in game

16:07

I can't know if we can afford it

i have the numbers of infection each night

I don't see how our info helps you much tbh besides using it to make a deal with wolves

Archie_not_cutie

i have the numbers of infection each night

Then name it as a show of good faith, we then see how many die tonight and reevaluate tomorrow

16:09

Your best bet might be to cooperate today with us and reevaluate your position after the plague deaths

16:09

Maybe one team comes out strong enough

The Superarchitect

No team is allowed to sacrifice somebody to have you win

look you just said...

Yeah I don't really see a way

16:11

But idk what the game looks like tomorrow

16:11

So tbh I don't think we have anything to gain here today

16:12

The only info with any value is pb identity and that's in your own interest

16:12

Since you may very well be plagued

16:12

Eliminating plague guarantees your survival at least

all i can say is it should just be 3 deaths tonight and then 5 tomorrow

Fun

look i get lynched now, town can get plauge tomorrow and still win

look if i see the info and i see its unwinable i will help and get plauge todau

ok can you tell me at least what hend is claiming im like 90% hes not plauge

He's wolf

Archie_not_cutie

look if i see the info and i see its unwinable i will help and get plauge todau

We're just not going to lynch you today

16:47

We really cant

16:47

I don't think it would really be allowed

16:48

I don't want to lie to you it's kinda pointless

16:49

I don't see how sharing claims would benefit either of us

Archie_not_cutie

all i can say is it should just be 3 deaths tonight and then 5 tomorrow

This implies you know who PB is but are fine risking your own death

16:50

So I don't know how that helps you

16:51

@Host if and only if yuki (who I assume to be Angel) gives us the correct plague bearer could we knowingly lynch them to have them kill a ranger to reveal another role to confirm another person (edited)

16:52

I feel like by using a ranger reveal it would be the only possible way to get value out of the kill making it legitimate

16:52

So I don't think it would be throwimg

What is the question

Captain Archie

What is the question

We cannot knowingly lynch an angel as it is throwing

17:42

But can we do it if I hope to get info out of a ranger that dies from the kill

Well i cant say anything in here that hints towards your alignment as it is a cc

Captain Archie

Well i cant say anything in here that hints towards your alignment as it is a cc

I don't think any alignment can knowingly lynch an angel?

18:14

And have one of their own die

Anyone can lynch an angel if they dont think anyone of their alignment will die from it

So if everyone knows who the Angel is nobody will knowingly lynch them

Captain Archie

Anyone can lynch an angel if they dont think anyone of their alignment will die from it

So you're saying town cannot knowjngly lynch Angel and have a ranger die from it to reveal another target?

If it is believed it will be beneficial enough then its fine

18:17

Intention matters more than result in my opinion

Okay I do think that's the only scenario where town could get value out of it

18:18

And I don't think wolves could ever get any value out of it

18:18

@Archie_not_cutie so there it is town could lynch you to have you kill a ranger to get value out of the reveal

18:19

I found a way you can win

18:19

I don't see how there is any other way

ok we could do that

18:20

who should I target?

18:20

bass?

We'd have to see tomorrow

but I die tonight

that's why I'm asking you for the identity of the plague bearer

18:28

its the only thing that makes sense for both of us

ok

18:29

just tell me who is yet unconfirmed as any role

that would be foolish

why

you claim to have some contact with plague so you should know without the claims

18:30

the claims make it much easier to guess

18:30

unless you lied in which case that was just going against your own self interest

18:31

so it seems pretty clear to me that you have no clue, made up the info and cannot make a guess without the claims info

look, like I know who the last pack is, if I reveal that you have no reason to keep me alive

that's not very interesting to me

18:33

the only place where our interests align is in eliminating plague

18:33

if we do so together you can win at a later point, probably

18:34

but clearly you lied instead of working together to actually find out

18:34

which would've been the much better option

ok so krunters is not plauge

18:34

for sure

18:34

that much i know

why do you think so?

because kal said he was in contact with someone who is plauge apparently

18:35

and said i could just say it was krunters if im to be lynched

18:36

if i tell you last pack could you lynch me to try and find plauge?

we cant afford to lynch you today if we dont lynch plague today

18:36

since it is unclear how many people will die

apparently its only 3

18:37

so me

18:37

hooker

Archie_not_cutie

if i tell you last pack could you lynch me to try and find plauge?

i doubt this is better info than what I have

and 1 more person

how did you get plagued?

18:37

and how do you know these things

I targeted hooker to be able to spread it around

ah

cause I assumed its a lost game for me

18:38

I also have the people I was told to spread it too

18:38

so far i only spread it to hend

18:38

on kals request

18:38

thats why i assumed hend wasent wolf

kal sniped to save hend

18:39

so i assume hend is wolf

well kal told me to infect hend with plauge

fascinating

18:39

i assume you cant share that cc?

its swurtles

ah

18:40

okay so what kal is trying is to leak incorrect info to us

18:40

idk if you're a willing or unwilling participant

18:40

but fascinating

The Superarchitect

idk if you're a willing or unwilling participant

wtf is going on

I assume kal told you the plague numbers as well?

yeh

18:43

and uhh I mean kal was added by the other pack member in the cc

yeah they're fake then

18:43

I think I know which plague baiter its from now

uhh kal told me to infect mat bovine hend krun

18:44

if that helps

18:44

but that was before the plaug contact

that list makes sense

and also alex

18:45

idfk whats going on anyomore (edited)

18:45

I just want this to be over

My condolences

18:46

Was swurtle revealing you planned or unplanned

18:46

Because until then you genuinely might've been lynched

18:46

I was very confused by whatever that was

18:46

We were thinking somebody else was angel ngl

18:47

Do you have a cc leftover?

uhh no

dang

well

One you can reuse?

18:47

I'm thinking you try to bait a PB suspect

i could reuse the swurtle one

18:48

since like its basically public knowladge im angle

you can contact a PB suspect and say you're trying to negotiate enough votes for you to be lynched

18:49

idk if thats believable

18:49

is there a better story

18:49

PC suspect doesnt know you're plagued

maybe idk

18:49

are all of plauge alive still

no, only one

18:50

Contact them and say you targeted sulap last night and are now plagued. You will spread the plague to everyone if they try to help you(?)

18:50

idk what the best story is

kal said that apparently most people are plauged by now

possible

if not all

18:51

honestly I wish I was pb now

your win condition would be to get the PB to self incriminate

18:51

so we can lynch them today and you live another day

18:51

I'm not sure what the best way to do this is

ok

18:51

I can at least try

18:52

who should I try it on

kruthers

really

do you think they're not plague?

I mean like kal told me to say they are plauge if I got to be lynched today

ah

18:53

hm

18:53

try alex then

and I feel like kal would want to pin it on someon whos not

18:53

ok

okay uh good luck

kal said these were the bad pb bait claims Krem deadass just booted me Alex BMed me and booted me Kruthers flopped so hard it's not even funny Sin just ghosted me and completely ignored my instructions DDD started out nice and demure then completely ghosted me

19:13

not alex

19:13

claimed town

19:14

after seeing the whole cc

19:14

maybe it is just hend lmao

19:15

could it be krem?

19:15

idk anymore

19:15

who was pc?

Archie_not_cutie

maybe it is just hend lmao

i dont think so unless kal knew and kept him alive intentionally

19:17

hm

19:17

though that is possible

well like the snipe was too stop confirmation of thing stalker

yea but if kal had simply failed his power hend would've died

19:24

so I'm pretty sure hend is wolf teamed with kal

Archie_not_cutie

I mean like kal told me to say they are plauge if I got to be lynched today

genuinely, why do we think this is

19:24

are we assuming kal has a contact with the real PC?

Archie_not_cutie

kal said these were the bad pb bait claims Krem deadass just booted me Alex BMed me and booted me Kruthers flopped so hard it's not even funny Sin just ghosted me and completely ignored my instructions DDD started out nice and demure then completely ghosted me

he said all those who baited are likely not real

19:28

pb

19:28

so like

19:28

idk anymore

19:28

im so confused

19:28

idk what the fuck is going on

ugh this is useless

Archie_not_cutie

idk what the fuck is going on

same

wait so whos the dead plauge you can tell me that much right

hm

19:32

its jay

ok

okay so I think the deal is

19:33

we know the wolves

19:33

we can risk it all on seeing how the plague goes

19:33

or we eliminate plague today

19:33

if we ML however we both lose as you die from plague and we probably also lose

who are wolves in your eyes

kal, ddd, happy, hend, swurtle, ocean

wait thers only 2 wolves dead

this is known?

19:35

there's only 6 people total overall

19:35

there's also only 2 town dead (edited)

19:35

wolves still dont have the numbers

oh yeh

19:35

fuck your right

thats why im saying we could risk the plague

19:35

but who knows what its gonna do

19:36

but you seem certain you will die

19:36

there is genuinely no way you can win with wolves as all of town knows you're angel and wont vote you in a losing game either

19:37

and wolves cant sacrifice

ok so I can say happy is definitly wolf

i assume he's the one in the cc?

actually

19:38

did alex share about me contactiing

yes

its in that cc happy is wolf lmao

wait

19:38

wait

19:39

In that cc is the info that happy is wolf?

as in its said in that cc

alex did not share that

yeh

can you prove this?

it might have been missed

19:39

i can add you but I wont be able to bait again

how obvious is it?

19:39

in the cc

"Happy is the wolf I found but they’re pretty afk But thanks for wanting to help out pack"

19:40

swurtle said it outright

but was it rather far up?

uhh kinda

hm

19:41

shame you removed him

19:41

PC is 50/50 between kruthers and Alex probably, but they're both perfect townies

but it was also said again "Although happy mentioned sniping share not Hendy" which is close to bottom

This is rough

who is not reveald tt I could fake bait for plauge with them

19:43

or something

wdym?

like message someon you trust

19:43

into that cc

Archie_not_cutie

but it was also said again "Although happy mentioned sniping share not Hendy" which is close to bottom

so they can confirm this

19:43

as if im looking for plauge

No it's fine for now

19:44

I have extensively given you reasons why cooperation is in your interest and you seem to have understood it, so for now Im fine to believe it

19:44

We can check later if necessary

19:44

ugh I really hate this

19:45

plague with no counters is just bs

19:45

Do you think there's any chance you can get more out of Kal? though I'm not sure he's in contact with plague for real

ok he said the people baiting all said 1 plauge ded and between light and jay and sharl, but uhh didnt say who said what]

yeah I apparently sent all of them in a weird psychosis

19:47

i thought I sent like 3

did you tell them jay was the dead plauge?

19:47

or do you know who calimed what]

no idea

to kal

19:48

sulap forwarded my requests

uhh

19:48

ok

19:48

hmm

but it doesnt really matter

yeh

i believe the info you gave me from kal earlier is accurate

19:48

so i dont think you lied there

19:49

im curious what kruthers specifically said

19:49

and how he flopped so hard (edited)

19:49

but not sure we can get mpre info from that

19:49

wait

19:49

@Archie_not_cutie !!!!!!

19:49

do you know the warlock checks

19:50

those could confirm everything

19:50

probably not though

19:50

or the sabotages

19:50

actually bass is just sabotaged today

19:50

i forgot sbaotuer wolf exists

19:50

lmao

19:51

@Archie_not_cutie if you have any info on the warlock or saboteur wolf actions that could help me catch the PC

The Superarchitect

do you know the warlock checks

happy and me

oh

yeh swurtle checked me n2

oh okay

19:53

huh strange

I want to know the reasoning behind that too

i feel like it would be to find a wolf but she already had one

apparently it was

I didn’t believe their ranger claim so I wanted to check

thats strange

but thats from her cc with pack

maybe happy was a very bad wolfpack contact

no happy didnt reply until d2

makes sense

like swurtle was being ghosted

ooof

uhh ill see if i can bait krunthers

19:57

idk

yea give it a try

I need to try something

uh im scared it is necessary to guess the PC to be able to win tbh

uhh kal did mention you guardian is perfect

20:08

makes it seem your saboed

20:08

but maybe dont change

20:08

or something

20:08

idk

no its bass

20:09

he didnt switch vote to me

20:09

showed his hand by staying on bass

so light was assassin

20:12

rip

yea

feel like thats my fault

20:13

for that d0 convo

okay so if your info is true and kal has a plague contact and it is not kruthers, then it likely is alex

20:13

there's really not much against him

like kal did say they all seem to be fake

20:13

but he could be lying

i think everyone els eis accounted for

im just waiting for krunthers to show up

if kruthers falls for it we lynch kruthers, otherwise we lynch alex, I think it's the only winning move

20:15

but you have to vote with us

yep i know

20:15

uhh

if this eliminates plague you will live and we can lynch you at a later day and have you target a ranger

I just ament getting a reply

20:16

is the thing

20:16

idk if i will until its too late

kruthers has a more complex claim

i see

20:17

but I assume its still doubled up

20:17

since is a suspect

so kruthers and alex claim the same spot, both are towny but kruthers has a slightly more complex claim

@Archie_not_cutie when did you infect yourself and when did you infect hend?

d2 n3

okay

krunters has replied saying hes busy but will be back in a bit

Archie_not_cutie

krunters has replied saying hes busy but will be back in a bit

any idea when?

20:42

Im guessing he didnt say?

said hes bouldering so honestly no clue

20:42

how long hes gonna take

okay that might be too long

20:43

ive made a terrible realization

20:43

we do need to lynch the PC today

yeh

im 55% sure its alex

i assume not lynching a wolf is not an option?

wdym?

20:44

to lynch PC we have to unlynch a wolf

as in to do both

what

both you suspect of pc

hm

20:45

i hadnt considered

or does that make town lose

hmmm

honestly one could ened up slipping and running to me for help

im not sure if we can flip two votes

yeh thats fair

20:46

hmm

20:46

its 8v4v1v1

20:46

but a lot of votes placed

20:47

and people afk

20:47

ect

actually that might work

20:51

holy shit you're a genius

20:54

okay im mathing it out

20:54

i think in that scenario we can guarantee both a town and angel win

20:54

but let me double check my math

20:55

the only question I have is if we are allowed to lynch you by sacrificing a townie if we somehow lose our rangers before we have a chance to lynch you

20:55

because we'd then need to push off lynching you until like d6

20:58

Day 3 Town: 8 Wolves: 4+1 Plague: 1 Angel: 1 we lynch the two PC suspects Town: 7 Wolves: 4+1 Plague: 0 Angel: 1 In Night 4 wolves kill a townie, but mayor now activates Town: 6+1 Wolves: 4+1 Angel: 1 Day 4, wolf lynch Town: 6+1 Wolf: 3+1 Angel: 1 Night 5, town kill Town: 5+1 Wolf: 3+1 Angel: 1 Day 5, wolf lynch Town: 6+1 Wolf: 2+1 Angel: 1 Night 6, town kill Town: 5+1 Wolf: 1+1 Angel: 1 Day 6, angel lynch Town: 4+1 Wolf: 1+1 Angel: 0 Night 7, town kill Town: 3+1 Wolf: 1+1 Day 7, wolf lynch Town: 2+1 Wolf: 0 @Archie_not_cutie this is the math

20:59

what do you think

20:59

this is an almost certain town win, but in theory wolves could kill you as revenge

uhh i say risk it

21:00

if i can win i win

21:00

if i cant so be it

21:00

uhh wdym by the plus 1 btw

you can double check my math

also stalker votes

the +1 is mayor and corrupt wolf

ah yess

im not considering stalker even though stalker is alive, since we cant guarantee their survival

21:01

in theory we also cant guarantee mayor survival

21:01

so there's some variables

21:01

but it's actually reasonably safe

I belive the math checks out

21:01

so its worth a try I guess

you think it's better than risking the PC lynch on essentially a 50/50?

21:01

in that case we could probably lynch you faster

21:01

but

I mean it guarantees plauge out

not fully

21:02

but 90%

well yes that is if we are completly wrong

but tbh if neither of my plague candidates is it then we're screwed regardless

but it migh be the best chance

so im playing as if im right

21:02

this chat is more productive than TT

21:02

somehow

21:03

i wonder how much you've leaked to wolves tbh

uhh not much

21:03

tbh

21:03

nothing really

21:03

since they seem to just want to string me along

ive been fully honest! i just didnt share everything you wantzed bc there was no advantage to me

21:04

but ive been honest about it

yeh

21:04

i actually didnt share anything important with pack

21:05

im gonna wait a bit

21:05

before voting

WAIT

also kruntheers replied with

Now I have back read I can assume your I'm a humble townie who can be of no help as town evidently don't trust me either

21:12

I dont understand the sentence

21:14

hes asking to promote him

21:14

should i?

uh

21:15

hm

21:15

if I say sure you might both claim to not be owner

21:15

uh say why

21:15

and lets see if he reports asking for owner

Can you demote yourself? But if I die and can't get you lynched I may need to add someone else just before I die

why are you no in tt

should I respond like that?

Archie_not_cutie

Can you demote yourself? But if I die and can't get you lynched I may need to add someone else just before I die

im not surewhat you mean byu this

21:22

actully yea just promot him

21:22

i want to see what happens

21:22

i dont actually need to trust you

21:22

so its fine if then he also claims to not be owner

21:22

but if he demotes you and adds me thats goofd

21:27

Happy is the wolf I found but they’re pretty afk

oka yso this was rela

ok i back

21:47

uhh so

21:48

we keeping lynches

im thinking kruthrs is maybe legit

on the two of them

21:48

I think so too

and the kriuthers risk is not getting a lot of traction

21:48

well kal had more votes to begin with

21:48

i can only flip one lynch with stalker

well kal is open scuming

21:49

so like

uuugh

21:49

lets lynch kal after all and hope we're right?

yeh maybe dont ping

this is more risky for you in one way

21:50

but elss risk in another

just a silent vote

if we're right we can lynch you faster

yep

21:50

just tell town only to switch votes

how does that help?

21:51

isnt pinging everyone better

I mean I guess

21:51

idk

21:51

I kinda wanna see a kal freakout over the silent vote

i believe i have 4 votes in reserve so its not too bad

and my vote breaks the tie

21:52

on alex

21:52

ill uhh vote soonigh

eh im putting two extra votes on alex

21:53

and should have 2 more people vote

21:53

but pls put yours too

The Superarchitect

but pls put yours too

I will before pc

im building my confidence that its the right play

21:53

then we can both win

for sure

21:54

wait your the stalker!!!!

ill wait until 00 to see what kruthsers is doing

crazy

21:55

kal thinks your not a power role

21:55

just like a cit or something

if you're loud enough wolves tend to think so and keep you alive

lmao

21:56

fr

21:57

kal gonna be mad I didnt say a thing

@Archie_not_cutie okay im doing Lynch #1 yeen

yeen

Lynch #2

as discussed

1

the will to snipe the kal vote

hm?

also apparently kal is talking to krunthers

yea kruthes told me

as the most possible plauge candidate

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

22:21

i just switched back to kaal

idk im confused

22:21

as fuck

22:22

kal is talking about kunthers and alexes claims, what did they claim?

huh?

oh nvm

22:23

its about the plauge claims

22:24

apparently to kal krunthers one was the most convincing

22:24

lemme dig some more

he said earlier eh wasnt

22:25

is he missing with us

22:25

you sent the list earlier

yeh thats what im confused about

22:26

apparently krunthers is still claiming plauge to kal???

22:26

huhg

uh now kruthers is saying kal is quiet

probably because hes talking to me

22:29

ok kal is telling me to vote krunthers lynch 1 and hend lynch 2

22:29

maybe wants to keep alex alive

what

and is just lying to me

22:29

to try and get alex off lynch

22:29

idk

ive fully lost it about 2 hours afo

idk thats just in case krun goes to snytch to kal

if kruthers snitches then hes PC and we're randomly mislynching Alex pffffft

pffffft

what I dont understand is why alex is just following the vote on himself

dont make me doooubt it

22:35

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

22:35

that indeed doesnt make anys e nse

22:35

uh

do we go back to lynch both plauges

22:35

like candidates

22:36

can that still be done

22:36

kal will probably get pack to move at least

okay lets be honest are you trying to push that to increase your chance of getting lynched or bc youre dobitng

22:36

bc kruthersd is ranger claim

im doubting it

so hed be the one you need to angel kill

22:36

ok

22:36

me tooo

oh I didnt know that

but idk how much i can trust your doubt

I didnt know krunthers claim till now

i know

22:37

i didnt say it

Uhh ok so hmm

i mean alex is one too

mean like ok lynching krun will make harder for me

if we ml the ranger its harder fo you

22:37

if ml ONLY the ranger its also really bad

but even still i think it might be best if we are so unsure still

if we lynch ONLY the PC its best for both

22:38

idk if I can move the votes nbow

22:38

half of thes epeople are barely responsive

uhh I guess we just uh pray and hope

22:39

kal seems to be fighting for his life

22:39

wait bovine is krem now

Archie_not_cutie

kal seems to be fighting for his life

But thjis is GOOD

so thats one less vote to count

Kal wasnt worried as much about Kal/Hend??

yeh

I got krem's votes

22:40

wait so was Hend a ML after all?

22:40

hepi

22:40

and he knows Alex is not a ML?

possible

22:40

idk

22:40

uhh

22:40

this is confusing as fuck

22:41

im gonna temporarly switch votes

concerning

kal said they have a snipe plan

okay i think we are unsinopable

im just gonna swap votes before pc

i might get revenge killed tho but w/e

uh they cant afford it either

22:43

also killing enemies should be priortized over killing uas

22:44

you can also just unvote if necessary

yeh im gonna wait and last minute switch it back

22:46

kal is talking to krunthers now apparently

22:46

but he might be talking with alex

22:46

idk

22:46

and saying its krunthers

22:48

where is ddd getting that?

22:48

from

22:48

...

22:48

what

i think he wolf slipped

yep possibly

I'm vaguely thinking you might snipe kruthers with the wolves but I dont really see the purpose

ddd switched off hend to alex?

yea

what im confused

22:53

also kal said they have the numbers

with you, maybe enough to tie one poll

22:54

ill break the other tie worst case

yeh

22:54

i mean i plan to switch

if you vote with them you won't be able to win with us via the ranger strat anymore

22:54

so

the grand betrayal

22:54

ok he confirmed its just votes to tie

i think the PC+Angel+Wolf+CW extra vote alliances has same votes as town withoiut stalker

so we see if alex or krunthers votes ?

yea

The other poll is make sure either wolf doenst die

22:56

what

22:56

kal

nah thats bs

22:56

hes claiming both are wolves

yeh

idk on which poll

I think he 2nd

okay well hope you're not betraying us for nothing

hend voting alex???

he will likely switch

22:58

with all the wolves

22:58

if he is wolf

22:58

but for a snipe to work he has to be

ahh yes

22:59

ok im ready to switch my votes

SWITCH

22:59

hend snoiped

im not dying to plauge

PC

23:01

POCPCPCPCPCPPCCPCP

23:01

PCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPPCPCCPCPCPPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCP

23:02

Im so sorry if wolves revenge kill you

23:02

But thinking about it if you had tied with them yoiu wouldve died to plague

23:02

so uh

23:02

this is still the better option

yeh

23:04

im exhausted

23:04

I go sleep

good night!

ok but before I go it should be fine to get claims list now right, like I think I can piece it together anyway but I just wanna know

23:12

also what was kal

Archie_not_cutie

ok but before I go it should be fine to get claims list now right, like I think I can piece it together anyway but I just wanna know

Ranger - Bass, Krem Citizen - Mat, Bovine or Hend Assistant - Sinis, Kruthers Hooker - Sulap ~~Assassin - light~~ ~~Oracle - Fish~~ Stalker - Ts Wolves: Happy, Ddd, Bovine or Hend Corrupt Wolf - unknown Saboteur Wolf - unknown ~~Scared Wolf - Kal~~ ~~Horrifying Wolf - Ocean~~ Wolf - unknown ~~Warlock - Swurtle~~ ~~Plague Bearer - Jay~~ ~~Plague Carrier - Alex~~ ~~Despot - Sharl~~ Angel - Yuki (edited)

23:15

we will need you to figure out which out of Bovine or hend is the final wolf

23:15

as we have no checks

23:15

(via ranger kill)

Alive Players | Total: 12

- mctsts (@The Superarchitect)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Archie_not_cutie)

- hendawy361 (@Hendarch361)

- bovine. (@Winged Bovine Arch)

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- basscy (@Wellington Arch) yeen2

yeen2

- ddd8000 (@aaa9000)

- matstress (@Victory Arch)

- sulap (@Arch si Pesulap)

- kruthers (@Admiralty Arch)

- happyxsocks (@The Happy Arch)

- sinisfuel (@The Evil Arch)

- thekremblin (@Arch of Constantine) (edited)

no other possible way I see

i thought krem subbed for someonw

yea for

23:16

uh

23:16

dino

also krunthers wasent even ranger!!!

The Superarchitect

dino

oh yeh

wait

23:17

he is not?

23:17

oh

23:17

wait

23:17

oh my god

23:17

I mixed up assistant and range

lmao

r

23:17

thats a genuine mistake

23:17

if it was a lie i wouldve commited to it on the list as well

23:17

wait

23:17

okay then you will probably kill krem

yeh tbh whatever works

23:18

just like ping me when I need to target ect

okay alternative strat is we convince a wolf to vote for you to accelerate the game but idk if that is possible, we can try both alternatives

@Archie_not_cutie setup your target as krem pls

ok I have it delayed

actually new idea

23:36

we'll ask both bovine and hend to vote for you and you kill whoebver of the two complies

I guess

23:37

but can pack not snipe it?

23:37

or like as a later when little pack left

eh we'll put some extra votes on

Once day starts can you contact wolves and say town has betrayed you and try to see if you can get the info out of them which of them is corrupt wolf?

@Archie_not_cutie you're okay if we lynch you tomorrow to validate hend/bovine right? we think ddd might be corrupt so eliminating them first guarantees town victory even if you took town between those 2

yeh no worries

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@Archie_not_cutie Im sorry, we accidentally solved the game and knew every role, so I gaslit the Hosts into thinking we didn't know whether bovine or hend was cit so we could legitimately lynch you to reveal that, but somehow TT forgot we actually knew which one was wolf and they somehow decided they needed to lynch both noowaoa

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