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Why... why do people have to die... if only they could be resurrected. No, that's nonsense. I'm never getting anyone back.

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i should've thought about this more

16:20

at this point it wouldve probably been better to just give someone mayor randomly that way at least it couldve landed on solo/ua and wolves wouldnt take a town

You're thinking wolves will kill you now and make it seem like a wolf play tomorrow?

im thinking that im the best target no matter what

I feel like chance are if they try that we can tell tbh

16:23

And if they don't try it and we just trust the JH it also works out

i also feel like i gave them way too much info

16:23

but its always hard to balance between seeming believable myself and keeping stuff

i think if anything the result is that now wolves will feel they can afford to kill you and then play it off

16:24

but then they actually need to be able to do that

im kinda thinking maybe if we double down and crash in town square that they'd be stupid not to kill me

how do you mean?

but it wont do anything cause i thought about it too late

16:24

uhh

16:24

like

16:24

either we put on a show to the point they start second guessing

16:24

or

16:25

as kind of like bait

16:25

"we want them to kill me to proc journo"

16:25

but for that id need to be trusted

16:25

so the info doesnt go to waste

im not sure I understand you

Like if people trust me enough to trust tomorrow JH it would be a play to indirectly convince wolves to kill me

16:26

so we get tt

16:26

but at this point we already gave them the idea to kill me

16:26

despite people not fully trusting me

16:26

so if we doubled down hard maybe they'd overthink it and leave me alive

the issue right now is we cant differentiate between you dying for real or as a wolf (edited)

16:27

but I really just doubt that you are a wolf that planned to have pack kill yourself

TigerS

the issue right now is we cant differentiate between you dying for real or as a wolf (edited)

im the first one to bring this option up

16:27

i was talking to luffy about this like a week ago but self-sacrificial plays are really really rare

16:27

even though they come up in discussion all the time

yeah especially without a cub

16:28

and even with cub they are super rare

16:28

so I'm thinking if anything wolves might now feel comfortable killing you

like the reason i went with the encryption play in the first place was "should be safe for town to assume wolves wouldnt sac a player in this list"

16:28

i still believe it

but tbh i'd be willing to risk it in that case and trust JH anyway as there is no strong counterplay

problem is it means nothing coming from me

like what else do we do then trust the JH anyway

people are already accusing me of panicking when i bring it up

and then we watch for who is pushing that this was a wolf strat to begin with

i think after i pinged arch brought it up twice

16:29

jay did once but it was fairly reasonable since we weren't even considering it

16:29

light was very antagonistics but i find light hard to read (edited)

16:29

his scumtell for me is when he pretends he doesnt understand whats going on

16:29

in a very performative way

16:29

but i dont see it this game

16:30

he just took a long time to cc me

TigerS

but tbh i'd be willing to risk it in that case and trust JH anyway as there is no strong counterplay

that is to say I would believe that there would be these scenarios:

you are wolf and it was a strong play we cant counter
you are town if you die we have the following
- wolf + we trust -> we lose
wolf + we dont trust -> we still probably lose as we cant form TT?
town + we dont trust -> we probably also lose
town + we trust -> we probably win

yea

so I think its worth the gamble. if we dont trust or if you are wolf I dont see many good counterplays

i feel like in this kinda situations some people tend to jump from "he could be wolf" to "this is most likely wolf play" very fast

TigerS

so I think its worth the gamble. if we dont trust or if you are wolf I dont see many good counterplays

i might think of this play as wolf but id be extremely scared of getting wiped out by pyros

people tend to want to be fully sure, but often you just have to gamble

btw

16:31

we might need to help

16:32

16:32

they dont have a mentor and they're on the password list

16:32

prboably very confused seeing that i didnt get the cc

hm, I would hope hosts are basically mentoring them then

16:33

you can maybe ping them again? I mean I specifically gave the exact command

as strong town role would you ctc journo here?

16:34

im thinking about what i'd do if i was priest in this game

I don't think anyone benefits from claiming here

like you'd sell the first journo claim but maybe keep yourself alive since wolves wont attack a 50-50 or a journo

I see the idea but I feel like it's harmful

TigerS

I don't think anyone benefits from claiming here

the list is definitely "journo should claim" sided

if a non-journalist claims journalist a journalist might ctc

16:35

since then 2 claims are out

yeah i mean specifically claim journo second

yeah but if a PR claims journalist, the second journalist will be forced to claim

16:36

if anyone ctcs journalist it forces yet another journalist ctc, probably

16:36

all real journalists and fake journalists probably need to ctc at that point

Duck

the list is definitely "journo should claim" sided

I think the singular claim is optimal to reduce info to wolves

16:37

And doesn't matter if the singular journalist is town, wolf or otherwise

hmm i see it

16:37

i wasnt thinking about the second journo

16:38

has anyone ever tried ctc-ing themselves amidst confusion?

what?

16:38

how would you ctc yourself

remember that one fish quality cc where she says owned to herself

I dont actually

like you soft claim it, forget then when town square says there's a public cit claim (its you) you go "no im the cit"

ooh

16:39

Command error. You are not an owner of this CC!

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