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@Lyssa Votz has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Cal Kestis @Lyssa Votz

Hi

Lyssa Votz

Hi

King

22:15

22:15

Whattup

Oceans afk or at least to me and I need to make up the missed activity

She is like that

And you seem to have something to talk about

Jst doesn't mean she isn't reading

22:16

Or at least you need to ping her

Lyssa Votz

And you seem to have something to talk about

Whaer

Im waiting for my avtion

22:17

Feels like She's never gonna tell meb

Cal Kestis

Whaer

The bass thing

22:18

I assume his info is bogus?

Lyssa Votz

The bass thing

Cc plan failed

22:20

Ocean needs to upgrade her sweet-talking abilities

22:21

If he is cit his info is probably reads unless it was like faking packless to ghost or something

Why ghost specifically

22:21

He didnt say anything incriminating that I saw

22:21

But I feel like he is probably scum

He gives me mild scum vibes

22:23

Even through his claim

He claimed?

Uhh

Were you not supposed to say that

He kind of alluded to his claim

I missed it then

Just isolate hise messages

Don't give me homework

22:27

I get enough of that already

LMFAO

Ocean went to sleep without telling me what to do for my action

Hmm

01:33

Ping pong her about it

Ill be asleep by the time she wakes up

Lyssa Votz

Ill be asleep by the time she wakes up

😭

I still think ghost and light sus

Ghost reeks of pack pair with huck and light reeks of angel

15:45

Especially since if you check deeper the same reasoning of ghost for vera lynch was shared by huck

Light is too obvious angel

15:47

To where he probably isnt

Hmm

15:47

I considered that

What do you think of kal

16:45

Is he sus

Lyssa Votz

Is he sus

He's a yeen

16:49

Tbh

I think he makes good food

1

Yippe

I think war is gone now

05:43

At least not one who voted was changed

05:44

And almost everyone voted

05:44

Everyone but Huck and arch?

05:46

I suppose that makes it neo? Since bas was clearly war doomed earlier

I'm only awake because apparently people at home thought it was a stellar idea to do Karaoke.

Lyssa Votz

I suppose that makes it neo? Since bas was clearly war doomed earlier

Poasibly

Cal Kestis

I'm only awake because apparently people at home thought it was a stellar idea to do Karaoke.

You should have joined

06:04

Im also heading to sleep now

Lyssa Votz

You should have joined

I was already almost a zombie to begin with

06:09

ill share my reads with you

03:21

reads:

- captainluffy (@Lyssa Votz) - confirmed town prob town yeen

- kalimoor (@Cal Kestis)

- hendawy361 (@Ferren Barr)

- theoceancookie (@Luminara Unduli)

- murrfiish (@Tai Uzuma) inconclusive

- sharleclaire (@Quinlan Vos)

- jeand.arch (@Jora Mali) mixed

- gh0st_5had0w (@Nicanas Tassu)

- venomousbirds (@Viv’Nia Nia’Viv) prob scum thight

- swurtle (@Ahsoka Tano)

- lightpulp (@Ky Narec)

If arch is scum here game would have ended last day

why?

03:22

i dobnt know whos in trusted

12 players

03:23

6 scum to get parity and lose

wait actually i forgot about the trickster thing

03:23

that seems pretty convincing

Play to win, so assume 5 or less scum

yeah i think theyre town

Also yes

03:23

7v5+1 at worst to not get parity (+1 is possible CW)

also we cant just assume a snipe would happen

03:23

if we were lynching horseman

03:24

most likely they just let it happen

03:24

or wolves are unorganized

Well that's between DDD and Huck then and a snipe happens in either not in neither

i was a bit suspicious on ocean because bass seemed town and then we seemingly lynched 2 horsemen in row which is exactly what a scum lead does

03:25

but then i took into consideration the failed kill

03:25

which brings my confidence back up

Failed kill + a decently convincimg kill is good enough tbh

Lyssa Votz

i was a bit suspicious on ocean because bass seemed town and then we seemingly lynched 2 horsemen in row which is exactly what a scum lead does

Yeah agreed on this

03:26

2 horsemen in a row?

well idk for sure but the lack of war stuff makes it seem like neo was war

03:26

and then huck appears to have been famine maybe, he knew i wasnt doomed

There are 4 slots that can be war

couldnt it only be bass or neo

no

but not bass because he lost a vote earlier

oh

03:27

Right

kruthers and phan?

03:27

i assumed phan was wolf

03:27

and kruthers probably town

03:28

neo is the one im sure was scum

3 slots

yea i suppose one of those 3 is war

03:28

but most likely neo

Eh Idrk

huck i feel like is actually famine

Huck can be any flavor of scum here Mild edge towards honse but yuh

Phantom has gotta be wolf then is huck was horse (edited)

Considering scum lynched i'd not be surprised if wolves and hm united

Because of the ocean corrupt thing

Lyssa Votz

Phantom has gotta be wolf then is huck was horse (edited)

y

Lyssa Votz

Because of the ocean corrupt thing

ghost:

‍♂️

One of the people there was wolf right

03:30

Oh right gh0st knew too

3 slots huck phantom ghost

03:30

huck ghost hard pair

Im pretty inclined to say phantom was scum tbh

y

03:31

He seems

03:31

Pretty neutral

03:31

Except him being in 2 ccs

03:31

And getting kicked from both

No one was corrupted since he died

Admittedly that was odd

03:31

Oh

And gh0st is still alive

Lyssa Votz

No one was corrupted since he died

Hard to guess if wolves are keeping it hidden

If ocean is scum then we lose at phase change

03:32

In which case I'll ignore that possibility

03:32

Cuz it's already too late

Ocean ain't scum here

03:33

Point of no return was like midway d2

Yea I think so too

03:33

I was worried but I think wolves would be majority if she was

03:33

And game isnt over

03:33

Was bass really scum then? It feels a bit hard to believe

03:34

Kruthers is definitely not wolf

03:34

Phantom probably was

03:34

Ddd probably was

Lyssa Votz

Was bass really scum then? It feels a bit hard to believe

Idrts

So id say probably 2 wolves dead

But it's likely

Seems a reasonable estimate

03:34

3 if bass was one

He's in 2 pools of possible scum and the chances are like 50%

03:35

But he's like the least likely of either

If wolves have corrupt wolf then they have a max of 5 votes rn

03:35

I think

Ya

03:35

7v5+1 7v4+1

03:35

Day→night

But we have mayor

03:35

And huntress mayor

03:36

Assuming ocean didnt bluff

Huntress mayor is a permanent vote in this situation soo

03:36

We are fine

I have to assume jury is dead though

03:37

Otherwise ocean would have died last night

03:37

The new person is probably juror

They probably got other reasons

Best case for us they made an estimated guess and missed

03:37

But there is a wi

03:37

So im leaning towards a correct guess

Hmmm

But yea thats about as far as I can get with my speculation at the moment

03:39

Since I only have publically available information

If they know ocean is spent witch, and there will be no mayor due to despot winning, in all fairness I think random kill is a decent gble

Let's hope thats what happened

03:41

I did a bad job of pretending to be in town trusted

03:42

To get a kill on me

03:43

U got any insights?

03:43

I missed a lot of discourse due to irl busyness (edited)

Ghost is probably dying tonight

03:45

How does this information make you feel

Well it makes me question if its by huntress or wolves

03:45

I'd assume by huntress

03:45

Unless that was a bluff, and its actually apothecary or something

03:46

But you wouldnt tell me this that if you knew it was that (edited)

I mean, I just told you an insight, a threat, and a read collection packed all in one So space efficient yeen

It is rare for me to be town and not in town trusted

03:47

Not used to being blind like this

03:47

How is it a threat?

03:48

Im not threatened by that in the slightest

03:48

I put him in the prob scum read

Aaeaeae

03:49

I mean, he's an easy one after pairing himself so hard with huck then doing a classic super brake on that read

03:49

+ all the ocean stuff soo

But doesn't having a cc like that make him unpaired

03:49

Plus wasn't huck likely horse

Lyssa Votz

But doesn't having a cc like that make him unpaired

Hmmmm

I assumed ghost wolf and huck horse

03:51

Also that bass thing about gh0st still lingers on my mind

Bass called ghost sus

03:52

His only sus

Bass never has reads

03:53

Normally

03:53

So I thought something was up

So what I'm gathering is that, ghost/huck are not both pack and that's about it

I think gh0st could be packless

lmao

He gives that impression

Yeah I basically arrived to that conclusion as well just now

03:55

SoloXpack, or packlessXpack, but not packXpack

And for light

it's more likely to be packlessXpack

Lyssa Votz

And for light

Angel angel angel angel angel angel

I mean if his angel play last time was him trying to act like wolf

03:55

Then this is how he acts as wolf?

Although

03:56

What I found weird is actual angel light hurts town forever here, doesn't actually vote with town

So yea I think

Considering he rationalized the parity scenario

Light Neo Krem Phantom Ghost Huck

03:56

Those are all high probability not town

03:57

Oh and ddd

03:57

Forgot about him

Hmm

Krme is the only guaranteed one

03:57

With absolute certainty

03:58

Of the remaining 3 scum I suppose for me it's between bass, vera, sharl, kruthers

03:58

Oh and swurtle

03:58

Forgot about swurtle

03:59

Im leaning towards kruthers being town

Standard random pick momento

No kruthers was mayor

Rando mayor

04:00

I mean

Oh suso exists too

04:00

I forgot about him

04:00

Well hes not pack or horseman

04:00

Could be ua i suppose

04:00

Probably town

04:00

Ok I'll organize this

04:02

__Guaranteed__
Krem
Neo
Huck

__Very likely__
Ddd
Phantom

__Likely__
Bass
Ghost
Light

__Probably __
Vera
Swurtle
Sharl

__???__
Suso
Kruthers

(edited)

04:03

What do you think, do you agree?

I think bass is likely town

04:04

Like to this moment still believe it to be a ml

I also thought so but I oceans judgement pushes me towards the other direction partially

Interesting reads on phantom vera and sharl i'd say

Due to them having more info

I mean

04:05

In-context

04:05

That lynch was

04:05

Chaos

Were we the only 2 people who thought he was town

04:05

In public

04:05

I feel like a town vera would agree with us

She was ready to swap out either light or bass and I clocked light because he was giving angel and that would have been worse

04:06

Bass was a gamble. But I wanted huck there instead

I dont remember everything that happened but I feel like vera was strangely low input on the bass thing

You can ask them ig (edited)

So that may be wolf behaviour not wanting to influence a mislynch

They did say they feel bass was town (edited)

04:07

Right

I think her or sharl are scum

im eep time

Idk which one

04:07

If bass was town then I think both are

Hmmmm

04:07

Alright

Sorry for keeping you up

04:08

Thanks for chatting

Ya np luffy, its alright

04:09

Dualplosion tonifht

Should I cc swurtle, thats too obvious im baiting her right

Lyssa Votz

Should I cc swurtle, thats too obvious im baiting her right

Yuh

14:20

Try ghost rather

14:20

Lmao

I dont think i can bait him

14:20

I can try though

14:22

We'll see if he responds

I guess my reads might be wrong

14:41

Sharl who i put on the list is definitely town

14:41

I suppose juror or exorcist

14:42

And vera pushed swurtle first so that adds some town cred

14:42

And if arch becomes confirmed or not, we will see

14:43

I want to believe fish too, so thats hard

14:43

Especially if bass is town then two people i think are town are not town

14:44

Unless it's kruthers and suso

Someone needs to contact swurtle but idk who wouldnt be obvious bait

Ouugh

Lyssa Votz

We'll see if he responds

He responded amazingly to my

15:19

"Im priest"

15:19

"Im kilk you"

He responded to me too

Lyssa Votz

Sharl who i put on the list is definitely town

Ya

Lyssa Votz

And vera pushed swurtle first so that adds some town cred

Also ya

Lyssa Votz

And if arch becomes confirmed or not, we will see

Its today

15:19

Today scum implodes or explodes us all so

He said im "outted as suspicious so I shouldnt cc him"

Lyssa Votz

I want to believe fish too, so thats hard

Fish seems fine

And he said kal is wolf for threatening to kill

Lyssa Votz

Especially if bass is town then two people i think are town are not town

Iont understand this but bass is likely town

15:20

Like, we will know later ig

15:20

If we ever do

Cal Kestis

Iont understand this but bass is likely town

Numbers

15:20

Ok so theres 10 non town

Lyssa Votz

And he said kal is wolf for threatening to kill

Fire

Ill break it down

15:22

Non town 1. Krem 2. Huck 3. Neo 4. Phantom 5. Ddd 6. Swurtle 7. Light 8. Ghost 9. ? 10. ? Possible last 2 slots:

bass
kruthers
suso
fish
Arch
vera

15:23

Two of the people at the bottom gotta be non town

15:23

It'd be easier for us if kruthers or suso was the other ua

15:24

But it seems like someone in the fish arch Vera group has decent odds of being non town

Yae

Did I miss anyone

Lyssa Votz

Non town 1. Krem 2. Huck 3. Neo 4. Phantom 5. Ddd 6. Swurtle 7. Light 8. Ghost 9. ? 10. ? Possible last 2 slots:

bass
kruthers
suso
fish
Arch
vera

Still confused as to how phan is just nontown here

15:25

The slots shouldbbe 3 still

You think phantom is more unknown?

Yuh

You can move him into the bullet point section if thats your opinion

Alrite

I feel like gh0sts first message to me was consulted with pack

15:47

And it feels vera influenced to me

Lyssa Votz

And it feels vera influenced to me

Hmm

Lyssa Votz

I feel like gh0sts first message to me was consulted with pack

What he say

It was suspicious to contact him because people think im sus

15:51

Does that not sound like something vera would tell him to say

Idrk about that actually

15:53

Can be spontaneous

15:53

But vera is more clever than they let on

It had a really long gap

15:53

Like 40min

lmfao

15:53

Oh yeah

15:54

He isn't voting as well so

15:54

Clear as day scum

Should we lynch him next

Lyssa Votz

Like 40min

Probably try claiming packless to him

15:54

Or soemthjng

Its day 4 or 5

15:54

Its too late for that

hahshsgd

15:55

Ok how about UA

15:55

angel or

Shouldn't I try it on swurtle

Something

Lyssa Votz

Shouldn't I try it on swurtle

You can add swurtle actually

Im out of ccs

No like

15:55

Add

I have one with you, claim cc, gh0st, and arch

15:55

Should I kick gh0st

Lyssa Votz

Should I kick gh0st

Gh0st+Swurtle i mean

15:56

Just

15:56

3 person cc

15:56

Then

15:56

Claim angel

15:56

Or

15:56

Depspot idk

15:56

Some ua

Its completely unbelievable

Uh a

If its 3 way

Lyssa Votz

Its completely unbelievable

That has never stopped me

Theres still a chance I could get something from gh0st before I trash everything with such a play

Lyssa Votz

Theres still a chance I could get something from gh0st before I trash everything with such a play

Okok lmao

15:57

Despot is more "i can work with you" friendly but eh we already had another despot Angel thoug

15:57

Like

15:57

You are ctcing lifht w/ this

15:57

Oh yeah claim to swurt

15:57

Probably

15:58

Like reuse cc

15:58

Anfel

15:58

a

Yea I'll remove gh0st

15:58

And cc swurtle

Aorks

15:58

Works

Ok im putting on my best metaphorical clown makeup for this angel claim

15:59

Ill propose we snipe

15:59

And maybe we can expose some info that way

Switch the vote

15:59

Ya

16:00

I'm giving you the go ahead to do this

16:00

But dont disappear

16:00

Randomly

You have such authority?

With your vote wrong-put

Don't worry im town

Lyssa Votz

You have such authority?

Always had had

Problem is the late phase change

16:00

Ruins this kind of plan slightly

Lyssa Votz

Problem is the late phase change

Its fine

16:01

Just need the vote put

16:01

To make it believable

16:01

For now

I'll keep you updated

16:01

She's offline for now

We know swurtle/ghost are scum

Even if it doesn't work

16:02

It gives some insight as to who's ordering her around

16:02

Which is still useful

Ya

You know my role right

16:03

Its actually useful here

Lyssa Votz

You know my role right

Also ya

16:08

You can actually target light here, i think that is a good play

16:08

Thonk

Ok I'll do it rn

16:08

Done

Joyous

She talked in town square but not cc

16:28

I assume someone told her to not interact

16:28

But also she could be consulting rn

Lyssa Votz

But also she could be consulting rn

Maybe to prompt her you can swap the vote to her mayor hendy lynch and say "im keeping the vote like this" A while after chat time is over swap back

Oh i didnt say anything like that yet

16:33

I just told her I needed to claim and to ping me when she's on

Shes active soo

16:33

She will take notice of this

16:34

Make a deal with her

16:34

Then

Yup

Extract info off her

I know i can keep pinging her

16:34

She will answer that way

Lmfaoo

Besides, ignoring me is also pack indicative

16:35

There ain't many people would would advise her to say nothing

16:35

So theres info to be gained from that too

Alive Players | Total: 10

- lightpulp (@Ky Narec) yeen

- kalimoor (@Cal Kestis)

- venomousbirds (@Viv’Nia Nia’Viv)

- hendawy361 (@Ferren Barr) thight

- swurtle (@Ahsoka Tano)

- sharleclaire (@Quinlan Vos)

- murrfiish (@Tai Uzuma)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Nicanas Tassu)

- jeand.arch (@Jora Mali)

- captainluffy (@Lyssa Votz) (edited)

Lyssa Votz

So theres info to be gained from that too

So you know how ghost is active

16:38

But not saying anything

Hes on his laptop

But I think hes doing school work

16:39

I asked him about his opinions about the game and he didnt have any

16:39

Which i feel is odd because he had just accused me of being suspicious

Not mentioning you as sus if you are asking him is normal ig

16:40

You cced him?

16:40

If you mentioned i dont remmembe

Yea its the cc i reused with swurtle

16:40

We talked about it

Oh right

16:41

I thought it was previous

Its the same cc

16:41

We only had like 6 messages each lol

Ill show you after swurtle dies

1

Works

Just came to mind but I think if arch becomes confirmed they would be a good next reporter/guardian because the -1 vote is unfortunately a liability

I thought of this too

17:41

It's a snipe-dependent vote

Do you want to be added now

19:33

Swurtle aint gonna speak (edited)

1

Lyssa Votz

Do you want to be added now

Alr

You guys got reporter so everything's probably figured out now I assume

Lyssa Votz

You guys got reporter so everything's probably figured out now I assume

Ya

23:31

This is so fire

good luck then, bring us to victory

Fish claimed angel to me

03:19

@Cal Kestis should I pretend to be wolf. Or is this bait from you

Lyssa Votz

@Cal Kestis should I pretend to be wolf. Or is this bait from you

Fish leaked EVERYTHING tome thight

If i was wolf id never do this kill order. I wouldnt let reporter happen, and I would have probably not failed a kill that night

Lyssa Votz

If i was wolf id never do this kill order. I wouldnt let reporter happen, and I would have probably not failed a kill that night

Uuauaugh

Command error. You are not an owner of this CC!

@Lyssa Votz can you

15:27

Make me owner

15:27

Then leave

Sure

Seriously important

15:28

Alr

✅ Promoted @Cal Kestis!

15:28

✅ @Lyssa Votz left the CC!

15:28

CC Members | Total: 1 @Cal Kestis (edited)

Okay

Alive Players | Total: 8

- lightpulp (@Ky Narec) yeen

- kalimoor (@Cal Kestis)

- venomousbirds (@Viv’Nia Nia’Viv)

- hendawy361 (@Ferren Barr)

- murrfiish (@Tai Uzuma)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Nicanas Tassu)

- jeand.arch (@Jora Mali)

- captainluffy (@Lyssa Votz) (edited)

15:29

Syntax error. Invalid Player: 👁!

15:29

✅ Added @Viv’Nia Nia’Viv to the CC!

15:29

✅ Added @Ferren Barr to the CC!

15:29

✅ Added @Ky Narec to the CC!

15:29

✅ Added @Jora Mali to the CC!

Cal Kestis

Especially since if you check deeper the same reasoning of ghost for vera lynch was shared by huck

Uururgh

Oh luffy.. why am I just added to this now lol

Lyssa Votz

It'd be easier for us if kruthers or suso was the other ua

Interesting

just coin flip at this point

Jora Mali

just coin flip at this point

Lmaooo

@Lyssa Votz you should target

Cal Kestis

@Lyssa Votz you should target

i wasnt in the chat at that point