Werewolves Revamped - juror

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Juror [Townsfolk Group]

Basics

The Jurors have a secret channel where they can communicate among themselves securely. During nights, the jury votes to investigate a player. If the jury successfuly investigates a non-town role, it is announced.

Details

The Juror is part of the jury. The jury can vote to investigate a player each night. The jury recieves the result of the investigation at the end of the night. If the result of the investigation shows a non-town role, the role is announced publicly. The jury is disbanded if there are 1 or fewer Jurors left; this means the jury is active only if at least two Jurors are alive. Any member of the jury, even if they lose their role, can still vote on who to investigate. One of the Jurors that has voted for the jury's target is randomly chosen as the investigator, who performs the investigations. The jury is affected by weak disguises. These effects are seen from the investigator's perspective.

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@Asajj Ventress Hi Sock! I’ll be your mentor! Please let me know if you have any questions. review #rules if you haven’t gotten a chance to!

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A trick I like to use is to do ;<role name> to find out more about a specific role

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@Participant As it's your first game, we've given you a @Mentor (@Olana Chion) to help you understand how Werewolves Revamped works, as it might have some mechanics and roles that you're not familiar with! Feel free to ping your @Mentor with any questions you have related to the game! (edited)

#jury is a channel where you can talk to your fellow juror Sharl!

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It’s a partial list that means not all roles are known

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;am

❗ Could not find role am. Did you mean alpha wolf (aka AW)?

;sm

17:02

Is this a horseman game?

Here we have the role list - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1463563294240542821/1463563601125052488

question, is this a random nickname that has been assigned?

Olana Chion

Here we have the role list - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1463563294240542821/1463563601125052488

ooh thanks!

Asajj Ventress

question, is this a random nickname that has been assigned?

yup!

Yea !

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It’s based on Star Wars

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Apparently

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You can look up the categories like this

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;tm

oooooh

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;tm

Yesss!!

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So we are tg

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;tg

Town (10)

TG (2) TM (5) TK (2) TP (1)

Exorcist

Wolves (6)

WI (1) WK (1) WM (2) WP (2)

Solo (2)

SM (2)

UA (2)

So these are the roles list yes?

Yes!

17:06

We are one of those roles who are best alive

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So we should try to keep a low profile

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If you react to the role list with a

it pins it to the channel

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Let me know if you have any questions about this specific role

so i am a juror, and i am part of a jury

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Do i know how many peeps are in the jury?

Yes you can check the #jury channel

17:09

It’s just you and Sharl

So if one of us dies, the jury is disbanded and we cant investigate anymore?

Yea exactly

ohhh gotcha

17:13

if i want to look up the roles in the roles list, do i just do ; and the abbreviations?

Yes! And specific role you can do ;role

17:13

For example

(just so you know, all the most useful bot commands can be found in #information!)

Oooh oki

17:14

Lemme try

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;tg

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Oh okay not specified got it

Cult Member [Townsfolk Group]

The Cult Member shares a secret channel with the other cultists. After Night 1, the cult can vote to attack one player each night. When the cult leader dies, the cult is disbanded.

help the cult member doesnt seem very friendly why is it part of the townfolk??

Butcher [Townsfolk Group]

All the Butchers share a secret channel and know each other. Exactly one Butcher is actually a werewolf spy called the bloody butcher.

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Baker [Townsfolk Group]

All the Bakers share a secret channel and know each other. Whenever the wolves kill a Baker for the first time, they will be able to attack again.

Yes! Btw the role list specify how many roles of a specific category there are

17:17

So in this case there are only 2 TG

17:17

Sharl and you are both TG

ahhh gotcha!

Yesss

;tm

17:18

apologies i think this channel may turn into a full blown info box sesh

Don’t worry !

Asajj Ventress

help the cult member doesnt seem very friendly why is it part of the townfolk??

okay funny story, one of my first werewolves games (it was a mini wolves game so less serious and shorter), i was town crier. this meant i got told the name and role of one other town member. i got told someone was a stalker, but i got confused because the name stalker is so negative and i thought they were a wolf, so i told everyone who they were

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Noooo

oh my days this be powerful

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;tp

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;sm

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;wi

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;wi

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;ua

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;uaa

Looks like people have some ideas in town square

kinda wondering how they decided on juror so quickly

It’s probably because there’s no TI and jury is kinda TI

17:35

Investigative roles

17:35

Normally there’s at least 1 TI

ooh gotcha

With exorcist, my guess is that the horsemen are strong

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It’s likely there’s horseman of death

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But no guarantee

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You may want to pay attention to who is and who is not talking

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So you can sus out the bad guys

17:38

Oh nice

okii

I might be a psychic I dreamed about horsemen without even seeing the rolelist lol (edited)

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i gotta go now but i should be back well before eod!

Yea don’t worry take your time see you later !

Olana Chion

I might be a psychic I dreamed about horsemen without even seeing the rolelist lol (edited)

well I ran the last horseman game

I didn’t even remember

Just ping me whenever you need me!

Thoughts on investigating Kal? Just curious to see what you think

yee i heard from sharl that kal claimed a role?

03:13

If theres no other leads might as well verify this one claim i thinkkk?

He claimed citizen

ah so like the normal townie role?

Fair there is a concept of disguise in this game

03:30

Let me check

i wanted to ask, whats the cc create thing? Whats it for?

Oh cc is conspiracy channel basically a channel you can make with players you specify

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And no one else can see what you say in that channel nor do people know of its existence

03:32

It’s helpful when a town trusted (someone trusted to be a member of townsfolk) is established

03:33

Or when we verify Kal’s identity but there are disguises so we will see

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Ah then there’s horseman of famine

03:35

These horsemen are annoying

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Olana Chion

Oh cc is conspiracy channel basically a channel you can make with players you specify

ohh

04:11

does limit: 1 mean u can create one, or does that mean there is only one cc for all the participants??

04:11

Who gets to create the cc? Is it first come first served?

One participant can only create one so you can create one once one is available

ooh gotcha thanks!

What’s your time zone btw

gmt+7

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aka as of this message, its 12.27pm for me

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so day/night shifts are 4am and 5pm for me

;packless

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;horsemen

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;sm

;doom

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Some roles have disguises as ability for example Pack tanner, disguise fox, tanner

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Some other roles have passive disguise for example sneaking wolf

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We have 12 hours time difference lol

Since sharl is doomed, you should be the sole player voting

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Does it make sense why?

Not really

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Im a bit confused on what being doomed means

;ua

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;horsemen

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;doom

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?participants

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;participants

❗ Could not find role participants. Did you mean variant roles (aka Variant)?

oop

It depends on what horseman we have

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There are four

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Death, war, pestilence, and femine

Horseman of Pestilence [Solo Power - Horsemen Team]

Each night, the Horseman of Pestilence may doom a player, blocking their ability during the following day and night. If they attempt to doom another Horseman, they instead join a shared channel. When all players are doomed, each Horseman may attack a player every night. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

This one when they doom a player, they are role locked for the following day and night

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Great reads btw

17:17

Also venomous bird vera uses they/them pronouns

If sharl dies we may have important work to do

How are you doing socks?

02:05

Don’t forget to vote for someone before phase change!

02:05

Who do you think of investigating right now

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lol I mean Kal did just give you someone on a platter

02:06

I really hope sharl doesn’t die

It is 8 am for her

Yea I know

02:07

I am not pushing her to do anything

I know

I’m just leaving messages lol before I go sleep

ah thats fair

02:08

im probably gonna go to sleep at like 8am my time

Do you work night shifts?

because I slept so long yesterday

Oh lol

Olana Chion

Do you work night shifts?

I wish tbh

Enjoy your night staying up lol

02:08

You work early in the morning?

Im basically awake at those times always anyway

Olana Chion

You work early in the morning?

sometimes

I see I see

and when I do I have to leave at 5 in the morning

I work at 7 am always but I work from home

02:09

That’s very early

yep and its because the busses are so unreliable

That’s hard

can i vote now and change later? Or is it a lock in once i vote?

No you can change anytime!

ooh oki

Lmk if you have questions I’ll be online for the next two hours or so

02:12

But I think you’re doing great so far

okii thank you+

02:12

Trickster [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

On polls the Trickster's vote is counted as negative one.

02:14

So basically their vote will count as -1 so if 3 people and tricker votes for someone the end result is 2

ah okay

02:15

So i guess they'd come into play when theres a tie or only one vote is there?

But also looks like if they vote for x and its only them, then it shows up as -1 vote based on what Jay is saying

02:15

Could be

02:15

There are many vote manipulation roles unfortunately

Horseman of War [Solo Power - Horsemen Team]

Each night, the Horseman of War may doom two players, removing their public vote and making them unelectable for a day. If they attempt to doom another Horseman, they instead join a shared channel. When all players are doomed, each Horseman may attack a player every night. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

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❗ Could not find role corrupted wolf. Did you mean corrupt wolf?

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Corrupt Wolf [Werewolf Power]

The Corrupt Wolf can manipulate a player's votes in the next day's public polls, changing their number of votes to a value within the range of -1 to 2. Additionally, the Corrupt Wolf can anonymously talk to their target.

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Stalker [Townsfolk Power]

Each day, starting Day 2, the Stalker may assign two extra invisible votes to a player in the current day’s lynch poll.

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Trickster [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

On polls the Trickster's vote is counted as negative one.

Although it seems like stalker doesn’t really matter much here

02:17

Trickster is a somewhat provable role.. if I am understanding it correctly they should’ve come out but maybe I’m wrong

02:19

I think dooming gives 0 not -1

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I’m lost

02:19

lol

"voting power of 0"

16 players and appearing 12 votes, so that means 2 doomed + 1 trickster? Maybe

(appearing 13)

Oh I see

02:21

That makes sense

im countinf the no. of ppl who voted for kruthers as mayor and i counted 16??

02:21

but they said 17ppl voted??

02:21

are my eyes not working anymore

I think Neo saw 17 when he voted

02:22

But there’s 1 vote from the bot

02:22

So 16 is correct here

yes

So 1 war + 1 trickster makes sense

02:23

Bass voted for himself and got 0 so we theorize he was doomed

02:23

By horseman of war

02:23

By the blessing of WWR god, sharl might just be doomed by the horseman of war

So there are at least two horsemen in the game?

02:24

what are horsemen part of again

being doomed by horseman of war negates your vote the trickster has a vote of -1, so essentially negates both their own and someone else's vote

UA?

horsemen are a solo team

Solo

solo can't win with town or wolves, ua can win with any team

Yea so horsemen want us dead

Olana Chion

So basically their vote will count as -1 so if 3 people and tricker votes for someone the end result is 2

end result would be 1

02:27

because it would be a 1+1-1

02:27

oh wait i read it wrong

no you read it right

it was 3 people and trickster

02:28

so 4 total

oh we both read it wrong

lol sorry worded it weird I meant it 1+1+1-1=2

all three of us are making things way more confusing

02:29

@Asajj Ventress do you understand vote manipulation and do you have any questions?

02:29

chimi will answer if so and i will confirm

uhh i got that the 2 solo peeps are 2 horsemen theoretically

02:32

i get the trickster bit

do you need dooming going over?

02:33

bc i will happily do that before i go to bed

So i assume dooming has different effects based on the type of horseman?

yes precisely

will the doom effects take place the next day only? Or does it persist

it depends on the doom famine doom disguises the person permanently war doom removes vote and prevents election temporarily, for the next day only pestilence doom roleblocks for the next day and night only death doom kills after a couple phases

02:35

being "doomed" is a permanent status, but the actual effect isn't usually permanent.

ah okay gotcha

Ddd (Pong Krell) is just always trolling

03:34

I’m going to bed soon! Best of luck hope we catch someone bad

Olana Chion

Ddd (Pong Krell) is just always trolling

he did ask a question tho in his defence this time

Yea fair more just about his general aggressive attitude lol don’t take him so seriously

03:36

He can be a bit unpredictable lol

oh yeh so true

Sabine Wren

he did ask a question tho in his defence this time

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1463563301610066034/1463996310544846848

I actually didn’t notice you abstained

ngl whenever i see peeps that say oh we should lynch newbies i generally dont really wanna play anymore

03:47

like bruh what is this tactic

who said that

03:48

thats like not allowed if thats the only reason, it would be classed as meta

Oh yes that’s terrible and it’s not allowed but sometimes they say that to screw around but it’s not nice anyway

uhh tal?

Kal?

I would rather Lynch one of the new players - tal bota, aka bass

Oh he’s a goofy guy .. not an excuse tho but he just be saying stuff

04:04

He should make you feel more welcomed tho

i mean yeah i do think mafia players really say anything to provoke reactions out of the other party

Yea it’s true and he sometimes just says silly stuff for example he’s always asking to be mayor

Asajj Ventress

i mean yeah i do think mafia players really say anything to provoke reactions out of the other party

yes they do bass is also an avid tos player, so hes used to the fast paced gameplay

ohhh

04:08

i used to play tos a bit

yeh I used to play for a while (edited)

04:11

id stay up till like 8 am

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playing

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guh its 3 am already

Oh terrible

12:12

That may mean we have a horseman of death

12:13

So the -4 might be

12:13

So it was 16 votes that showed up as 13

im a bit confused abt this ye

So it’s 1 doomed + 1 trickster so basically

-1 from trickster -1 from corrupted Still means theres 2 missing votes right?

Trickster counts as -2

12:14

Because it basically negates a vote

you guys might want to look at the separate polls.

Dang ocean killed Phan (edited)

Oh i finally get why they keep saying 3-1 3 from the mayor election mission 1 from bass missing

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??

12:16

or am i wrong again

on the basscy poll: one negated vote on the kruthers poll: three negated votes trickster essentially negates two votes (its own and another player voting on the same poll) corrupt wolf can negate one vote (by setting its target to have a 0 vote value), or two votes by setting its target to have - 1 vote value. in this case, the target and another player voting on the same poll would have their votes negated, as with trickster

Asajj Ventress

Oh i finally get why they keep saying 3-1 3 from the mayor election mission 1 from bass missing

yup, this is correct

Yes

Ah. So the key here is negating for the SAME poll? Thats why its an issue that its 3 1 and not 2 2?

but it's important to look at how that's split to figure out what roles are possible. if a total of four votes are negated, but it's split so three are negated on one poll and one is negated on another, it couldn't be two people with -1 votes.

ahhhhhhh okay gotcha

Asajj Ventress

Ah. So the key here is negating for the SAME poll? Thats why its an issue that its 3 1 and not 2 2?

yes!

guess imma be looking up roles that can manipulate votes

Yes and ocean came out saying she was corrupted

12:20

So that’s one confirmation

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If we believe her

sharl was doomed

12:20

But dunno what effects are yet lemme see

12:21

die at the end of the next night.... dang i hope this aint it

At least we know sharl was not death doomed (edited)

12:22

And we know there’s a horseman of famine form investigating huck

12:22

And from missing vote, it seems like war is likely

ohhhh

uglysmile

So horseman of war could reduce votes by 2 as well

Yes

12:25

Interesting

12:26

Horsemen are my least familiar roles

12:26

I have to look up quite a bit

12:26

Trickster is not necessarily at play because corrupt is at play but it remains a good possibility

12:29

This math is so confusing but it is 16 not 17

Aside from corrupted wolf, trickster and horseman of war, are there other roles that can manipulate votes?

12:33

trying to look them up one by one

grandma can change vote values stalker can add votes a few other roles can change the outcome of lynches and elections, but they don't directly affect votes

12:56

there's a role called idiot that doesn't die the first time it's attacked or lynched, instead it has 0 votes afterwards

12:57

but grandma and stalker both can't be in this list because they're TP (town power) roles, and you know the only TP role in this list is exorcist

Btw, do you understand the concept of claiming, socks?

13:02

In this game, because we have cc, when a town trusted (tt) is established, we claim to them in a cc telling them our role

13:02

But I’d say we may not want to claim at the moment to ocean

13:02

Ocean could be lone wolf because there is a WK

Lone Wolf [Werewolf Killing]

Each night, the Lone Wolf may attack one player. If that player is townsfolk-aligned, that player will be attacked. If they are wolfish, the Lone Wolf dies. The Lone Wolf and wolfpack do not know each other, however once a member of the wolfpack dies, the Lone Wolf will lose their power and join the pack as a regular wolf.

What do you think of oceans claim

13:04

Also there is a concept of packless, these are wolves that aren’t part of the Wolfpack

13:05

The reason why corrupt wolf is great is that they create a whisper channel (they can talk to a player without the player knowing their identity)

13:05

And they can find packless that way

13:07

Also socks I love your pfp

wait it's so cute

And it looks like her emoji

13:10

Ocean can be lone wolf no? Idk

13:11

Sometimes you just gotta have faith! Anyway, I’ll stop spamming the channel

Olana Chion

Also socks I love your pfp

thanks!

uglysmile

Lmk if you struggle to create cc!

14:18

But also seems like sharl will go first

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CC Create Help

Syntax

$cc create <CC Name> <Player List>

Functionality

Creates a CC with the name <CC Name> and adds you, as well as all players in the <Player List> to it. <Player List> may contain 0 or more players. When the CC is created you are announced as the creator of the CC, and are the only owner.

Usage

> $cc create verajay jay
< ✅ Created #verajay

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✅ Created #socks!

I think you have been added to sharl’s cc so ocean knows your claim now

ye

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gave up

17:41

resisting

I hope ocean is not lonely wolf

17:41

Lone**

yeah....

We are going to be so screwed if so

17:41

pensivegayblob

Did you read #👁️

17:42

Do you think her argument makes sense

uhhh i havent yet

17:42

skimmed but i probs need to look up the roles and then read again

Yea all good i didn’t read it but if phan does sound scummy then maybe it makes sense

17:43

I really don’t like that we are sheeping but at this point it may be too late

I think i was just confused by how quickly everyone trusted ocean

17:45

My grasp on mechanics and roles isnt asvanced enough for me to tell whether this is sus or not

Yea fair in my opinion I think lone wolf pretending to be witch is mechanically possible

17:46

It’s more important to see if ocean reads well at this point

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Also if she’s wolf then we are pretty screwed

17:47

We were screwed when sharl claimed already lol

yeppp

17:47

cuz i'll be useless if sharl dies anywayss

17:47

but oh well

17:48

just going w the flow~~

Yess

17:48

We will just be citizen at that point

17:49

Also we can pay attention to the reactions of people who are up for lynch

17:49

If they just roll over and die then that’s probably a good sign

17:52

will take notee

17:52

think imma eep now tho

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Will check when i wake up!

17:52

gn~

Good night!

The lynch targets aren’t looking too positive

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Oh wow

This is so accurate https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1464231118843936769/1464357603063632023

.. this is horrible

Despot [Unaligned Power]

If the Despot is elected as Mayor, they win and stop playing, but the game still continues. The next day, the election will be cancelled.

Despot won

Let me see...

Town (10)

TG (2)

2 jurors

TM (5)

1 cit (cal), 1 runner (squrtle)

TK (2)

1 witch (ocean)

TP (1)

1 exorcist (vera?)

Wolves (6)

WI (1) WK (1) WM (2) WP (2)

1 corrupted

Solo (2)

SM (2)

1 famine (?), 1 war (?)

UA (2)

despot (sora; won)

(edited)

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;tg

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Ye thats us

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;tm

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;tk

11:10

;tp

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;ua

11:11

;uam

11:11

;uap

11:12

;uai

11:12

;uak

11:12

;uac

11:12

;uaa

11:13

;sm

11:14

;wi

11:15

;wk

;wk

11:25

:howling wolf

;lycan

How are you doing? Lmk if you have any questions

I feel like I haven’t been the best at following what’s in game but to me ocean feels pretty good at this point

03:04

The no death last night for sure confirmed in my opinion

03:05

But it also means that wolves probably know that someone is protected and is probably an important role

Olana Chion

How are you doing? Lmk if you have any questions

hi im trying to figure out how many deaths can be caused at minimum and maximum

03:51

like for the wolves alone, or wolves + UA/Solos

Right now I’d imagine it is going to be 1 death only

03:52

We haven’t seen any unexplained death

03:52

So it seems like only wolf pack is killing

hmmm so then it feels like war isnt in the game

04:22

or war died first thing

night 1- 5uso died day 1- no one lynched night 2- kruthers and phan died day 2- bass and neo were lynched night 3- no one died day 3- yoda was lynched night 4- wip

Asajj Ventress

hmmm so then it feels like war isnt in the game

horseman of war doesn't have any killing ability

Oh

10:05

what did i mistake it for uh

10:06

whats the other one

10:06

war famine pestilence smth

death

Cyslin Myr

death

Ah ty

10:06

so ye no horseman of death in the game...?

10:06

cuz then it wouldve been like 3 deaths

10:07

Instead of 1 or 2

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