Werewolves Revamped

🕵 S15g2 Secret Channels / undead

Faithful Ts [Townsfolk Killing]

Basics

Each night, the Faithful Ts may use their holy water on a player. If that player is a lycan, that player will be attacked. Otherwise, the Faithful Ts risks their own death.

Details

If the targeted player is a lycan, they are attacked. If they are townsfolk-aligned, the Faithful Ts dies. If they are not lycan and not townsfolk-aligned, the target isn't attacked and both the Faithful Ts and the target live. Using holy water on a player is an end-night ability.

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Other tk is likely huntress

Faithful Ts

Vera

Faithful Ts

Coins

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Ok i think jay is towny

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lmao

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WK x2 - aw+[al/hw]
TK x2 - huntress+[assa/exe]
A wolf is af[WI]/kw[WM]
TI - AT/Huntsman
Solo - Vamps
Some TMs - DV
TP - Hooker/Exorcist
Solo - Chef/Angel

Role list S15G2

Town (9)

1x Town power
1x Town Investigative
2x Town Killing
5x Town Miscellaneous

Werewolves (5)

1x Wolf Investigative
2x Wolf Miscellaneous
2x Wolf Killing

Solo (2)

2x Solo Power

Unaligned

1x Unaligned Killing

*No limited roles in play

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Yeens & Rolelists

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ Exorcist/Hooker • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ Oracle/AT/Huntsman • x2 Town Killing ⤷ Priest

Kalimoor

⤷ Huntress • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x+ DV

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ AF • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ KW • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ AW ⤷ HW/LW • Packless ⤷ LW/AF

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire/Flute Player

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef/Angel

Info

*No limited roles in play

TBA

Notes

seems not paired with
seems paired with , †
seems paired with ️
️ reeks of angel
, , ,‍⬛,⭐ seem towny (> order)
, ️, seem scummy (> order)
2x+ DV contingent on SP being Vampire
Flutes are possible Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: early D1 (edited)

need a better way to organize this

CC Create Help

Syntax

$cc create <CC Name> <Player List>

Functionality

Creates a CC with the name <CC Name> and adds you, as well as all players in the <Player List> to it. <Player List> may contain 0 or more players. When the CC is created you are announced as the creator of the CC, and are the only owner.

Usage

> $cc create verajay jay
< ✅ Created #verajay

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CC Help

Syntax

$cc <Subcommand>

Functionality

Group of commands to handle CCs. Use $help cc <subcommand> for detailed help.

Aliases

- ccs

Subcommands

- $cc create
- $cc spam
- $cc create_hidden
- $cc add
- $cc remove
- $cc rename
- $cc archive
- $cc promote
- $cc demote
- $cc leave
- $cc list
- $cc owners
- $cc create_multi
- $cc create_multi_hidden

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CC Spam Help

Syntax

$cc spam <CC Name>

Functionality

Creates a CC with the name <CC Name> and adds you to it. The cc will not have any owners (you cannot add members to it). This cc will not count towards the cc limit.

Usage

> $cc spam spamcc
< ✅ Created #spamcc!

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✅ Created #🤖-yeenspam®!

@Host can horsemen be already hof hod hop how... Before being actual horsemen first

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Basically for their initial state to NOT be "horseman"?

Horsemen must start as horseman before turning into one of the four horsemen

Ok thank you chimi

Aaayayaapw ok

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i

Plzzzz

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Why are people not TALKINGG

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Why is swurtle not responding

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Why is luffy not giving an opinion

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Bass ok

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Ok its time for readlist

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Later

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Not

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Rn

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I think bass is also towny

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Alex towny

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Snivy paired with alex to some extent

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Snivy has both scummy and towny points so im backreading proper later

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Sharl was apparently none but i cant legally look into that uhhhavuchdhej

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Phan gives

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Angel?

Alive Players | Total: 17

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Sled Keeper Swurtle)

- sharleclaire (@Slay Navigator)

- shakh712 (@Silver Bell Polisher)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie and Milk Analyst)

- captainluffy (@Head of Colour)

- shapechange (@Chief Elf) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bookkeeper of Joy)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- lightpulp (@Christmas Lights Manager)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf) ⭐ - vicro740 (@Stable Mate)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer) (edited)

Neo is mildly scummy

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Humm

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Yeah about it

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Snoozing this game until tomorrow

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Or

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Well

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Until my booster is gone

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After*

Snivy feels

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Mildly town(?)

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Snivy ≠ luffy

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Hmmm

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 19.12.2025 22:56

ehhh

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Snivy gives

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Quite a bit town

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Hot take

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Mild tunneling

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Like it

@Participant

Ability Prompt

Please submit a player. Please submit your choice as a reply to this message.

Werewolves Bot B

@Participant

Neo neo neo, who is the neoest of them all

Dragon of Santa Clause

Neo neo neo, who is the neoest of them all

(edited)

You submitted:

Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer (Neo)You did not react to the prompt, so the ability was not executed.

humm

23:04

Am i fine with this

23:08

Humm hummhumuhmumh

23:09

Lets chill

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ Exorcist/Hooker • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ Oracle/AT/Huntsman • x2 Town Killing ⤷ Priest

Kalimoor

⤷ Huntress • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x+ DV

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ AF • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ KW • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ AW ⤷ HW/LW • Packless ⤷ LW/AF

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire/Flute Player

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef/Angel

Info

*No limited roles in play

TBA

Notes

seems not paired with
seems paired with , †
seems paired with ️
️ reeks of angel
, , ,‍⬛,⭐ seem towny (> order)
, ️, seem scummy (> order)
2x+ DV contingent on SP being Vampire
Flutes are possible Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: early D1 (edited)

Possible that sniv/alex are solos(?)

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I have missread alex as towny literally last game

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Okay uhh

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Idk what to make of swurtle

23:16

'I agree with everything' with no further opinion but understandable she is tired

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Hmm

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Well

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Fair statement still scummy

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hmmm

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Hmhmmhh

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This is

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Townier

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I'll try to give scum here

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I acted too towny and im a bit scared i made myself too big of a pack target

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Yeah uhh

23:33

I think alex seems town?

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Weird question

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Weird answer

The

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Temptation

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To just

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Ping phan and pelase beg him to talk with me

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But i feel this gives off too much town

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Even if i really really really want the

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Aauahdiuixsjfhp

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Plzzz i want to pong people to talk to me

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AAa

23:44

wtv

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You cannot use this command while ingame.

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You cannot use this command while ingame.

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You cannot use this command while ingame.

Crying

23:49

Luffy seems

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A bit scummy

23:50

I have been waiting for the read-loaded answer to the assumptions

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Idrt

23:54

Feels just non-contributing even when laid plate to the face, neo kinda chipped in

23:54

Where is phan

23:54

Eepy

23:58

plsss talkkk

So i cannot legally as per the rules try to sweep in for mayor because i can turn undead and that would hurt town me

oml i would actually convince wp to kill swurtle here help me

00:46

Phan gives

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Angel

Good morning

11:22

rises and shines

11:22

yeen

11:22

Oh noooo swurtle has died!

11:22

Anyways

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1451779486390550549

12:05

Ok

12:05

Well

12:06

Vicro feels very non-[pack/vamp] (i feel no grouped role says this publicly) but, newbie bias

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12:26

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Sharl feels

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Town

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And

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Nevermind i cant think about it like that

12:45

Moot

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Just feels town

What the fuck

Phan is giving angel

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So

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Wait

15:13

Pulp claims customer

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What...

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Ok

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So

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Flutes ARE possible

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Btw light has ⅔ chance of being scum

15:21

Wolf customer/Solo customer/Town customer

15:22

But then

15:22

Phan angel or light customer?

✅ Created #🥉town-fucked!

ok jay sees it too

15:51

But this is my opinion

Think kal

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Jay if scum gives moreso pack

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Idt paxk with KW being likely would discuss rolelist like this

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So

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Im looking at packless or solo or ua

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Jay seems keen on exchanging as well

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Chef angel...

ok

16:09

thats

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An answer

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I like it

16:09

Jay is like

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Towny

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Very towny

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a

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Aeeee

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Af is a good point

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Their reads are god

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Good*

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Luffy read specifically

Alive Players | Total: 16

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus)

- sharleclaire (@Slay Navigator)

- shakh712 (@Silver Bell Polisher)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie and Milk Analyst)

- captainluffy (@Head of Colour)

- shapechange (@Chief Elf) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bookkeeper of Joy)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- lightpulp (@Christmas Lights Manager)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf) ⭐ - vicro740 (@Stable Mate)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer) (edited)

Ocean krem

16:21

Krem neutral ocean moot

16:21

Who is shakh

16:21

Towny on vicro

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help my run draw blood

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WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

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WHAT DO I MEAN

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my

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Blood

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Ran

16:24

Cold

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okay

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Thats

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Well

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Idfk

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Am idead

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Nah

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If jay tries to control my kill/give hard scum leans im probably dead

16:31

Luffy... Tracks

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And i didnt mention luffy at all

0 idea sin

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Shakh moot

16:39

Thats everyone

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I really really really really need to iso luffy

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I dont want to be gaslit here

16:45

Ok so

I feel like im dead

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aw

Snivy is paired with luffy

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I do NOT agree with that

I feel like sniping phantom here i feel im dying/turning tn anyway i reckon

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I feel this gives

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Scum

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Earlier

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Towny

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Rn

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Except

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Hes trying to discredit me

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Hmmm

@Participant

Ability Prompt

Please submit a player. Please submit your choice as a reply to this message.

Maybe if i fake huntress

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Omg

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Fuckass

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JAY

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PRObably wants me to die.

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Im scar d

Stress

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Jay makes sense

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But is giving scummy

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But not paired with luffy

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Luffy

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Is scummy

Dragon of Santa Clause

If jay tries to control my kill/give hard scum leans im probably dead

He asked me to directly kill luffy here as "priest" vro

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I feel i fumbled

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aaaaaa

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See this is why i want a mentor it would keep me sane with my insane ramblingd and crashout central

Lmao

23:30

We should have an OS where everyone is paired

Naughty List Assessor

We should have an OS where everyone is paired

Lmfao

23:30

I feel that wouldnt quite work cuz

23:30

Ccs exist and probably soemthign to do with

23:30

Tt forming somehow

im

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so cooked

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I agree

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With luffy die

Okey

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Well

Werewolves Bot B

@Participant

Dragon of Santa Clause

(edited)

You submitted:

Head of Colour (Captain Luffy)․ Execution cancelled. Reply to this message to submit a new choice.

Peace and love

23:54

Dale a tu cuerpo alegría, Macarena

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Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegría y cosa buena

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Dale a tu cuerpo alegría, Macarena

23:54

Ehhhhhhh, Macarena!! Ayay

23:54

Dale a tu cuerpo alegría, Macarena

23:55

Que tu cuerpo es pa' darle alegría y cosa buena

23:55

Dale a tu cuerpo alegría, Macarena

23:55

Ehhhhhhh, Macarena!! Ayay

1

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This is gonna give me a headache if i keep overthinking

00:02

So im just gonna go do something else

‍♀️

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‍♂️

07:48

Werewolves Bot B

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Dragon of Santa Clause

(edited)

You submitted:

Chief Elf (shapechange)․ Execution cancelled. Reply to this message to submit a new choice.

a@

07:49

07:49

07:50

Werewolves Bot B

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Dragon of Santa Clause

You submitted:

Head of Colour (Captain Luffy)․ You may cancel the ability to change selection, otherwise it will be automatically executed at the end of the phase.

Sanity check that jay asked me to kill luffy which means they are different alignments and i would see jay as pack here if i believe luffy isn't scum, which jay seems towny, Town vs town is most likely but i think luffy is pretty scummy,

07:54

Solo vs wolf is moot because 1) jay solo doesnt bring this much attention to themselves 2) luffy solo wouldnt make me explode here 3) i would fucking explode anyway if jay is the wolf

07:56

I should of be just claimed hooker for 0 reason d0 honestly like. I was planning to,,,,,,,,,,,

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im gonna wake up dead

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o7

Joining succeeded!

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Undead [Solo Miscellaneous - Underworld Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

The Undead is a part of the vampire’s secret army and pretends to be their old role. If a demonized player is killed during the night, they will not die, and will instead lose their original role and become an Undead.

Details

The Undead wins together with the vampire. A player converted into an Undead loses their previous role. However, if they were a member of a group channel, they will remain as such and will still be able to vote if applicable (though their vote will not count). If all members of a group have changed role or died, the group is disbanded and any abilities it may have had are lost.

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@Participant

Role Change

Your role has changed to Undead!

Werewolves Bot B

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The bot failed here, but this attack was executed and was successfully

Christmas Village Manager

The bot failed here, but this attack was executed and was successfully

Was me turning a symptom of dying to this bot error perchance

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Goodmornjng

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;prist

❗ Could not find role prist. Did you mean priest?

Dragon of Santa Clause

Was me turning a symptom of dying to this bot error perchance

i suspect as much, i was trying to debug it to figure out what happend but there is just nothing, so it basilly forgot you exist

Christmas Village Manager

i suspect as much, i was trying to debug it to figure out what happend but there is just nothing, so it basilly forgot you exist

I had to track every action you did over the night to figure out if you cancled or something

~demonized

Christmas Village Manager

I had to track every action you did over the night to figure out if you cancled or something

I canceled at one point

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To do jay

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But then did luffy again

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And just eeped

ye i saw

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Well it depends if demonized can protect self from true kill @Christmas Village Manager

11:55

Aaae

It failed due to you changing role, it seams you changed before it got to execute your attack (which should have happened at the same time)

Christmas Village Manager

It failed due to you changing role, it seams you changed before it got to execute your attack (which should have happened at the same time)

What

11:56

In the pretzel

its just an odd edge case that means some code/ timings will need some slight tweeking

Sobbing

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So

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What does it mean

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Am i still the priest

You attacked and killed luffy then changed role to undead

Or

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Am i now undead

Yes

/gen question

Christmas Village Manager

Yes

Okay I will play as now unded

11:58

-# I CALLED IT I FUCKING CALLED THAT I WAS COOKED AHHHHH

11:58

recomposes.

Christmas Village Manager

It failed due to you changing role, it seams you changed before it got to execute your attack (which should have happened at the same time)

Ok so me changing wasn't symptom of my sprinkle (initial thought) but another attack here

yes

Preposterous

12:00

Thabk you kruthers

12:01

so

12:01

Well

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Guess I'm a solo now

12:02

I slept too little for this

12:02

So

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I betray past self

12:02

How

12:02

Theres jay who i can use

12:02

Uhh

12:02

Defo should mention "dont share info with me becuase i can be turned obvi"

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I can get away with another fake water most certainly

12:04

This does mean jay is like town

# kalimoor is born anew

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Unburdened by stinky responsibilities like 'dont get fucking manipulated like a dumbass'

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oh my god

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#

️

yeen

An hour has passed. yeen

yeen

️

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;tm

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Assistant macho

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Why is town crier just

16:18

16:18

-# 😭

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You cannot use this command while ingame.

16:31

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a part of me wants to keep working with jay but loike XDDDDD!!!!

neo is giving

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Scum

18:30

Neutral

Ok now this argument is mildly ulterior motive driven dual

Werewolves Bot B

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Free pechanga casino XP

19:29

free town rapport

19:29

Also i still think he is scummy

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Hmmm

19:31

Less

19:32

Yeah

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Im so

19:34

Confused

19:34

What does he even mean

19:34

Why is he just assuming things

19:34

Uhh

19:34

ok

19:40

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1452369874054549647 ESTO NISIQUIERA TIENE SENTIDO QUE MRD

19:40

‍♂️

19:41

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1452370418957549762

19:42

im illiterate thank you alex when you read this know that ily and i will never regret giving you any icon (for a duck) for our peace treaty

19:47

Also

19:47

Hummm

19:47

This doesnt budge my read

19:47

I think?

19:52

I feel this is ≠

19:52

Soft ≠

19:54

In all fairness neo was gonna get this push if they didnt give reads Thonk

19:55

Alive Players | Total: 15

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus)

- sharleclaire (@Slay Navigator)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie and Milk Analyst)

- shapechange (@Chief Elf) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bookkeeper of Joy)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- lightpulp (@Christmas Lights Manager)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf) ⭐ - vicro740 (@Stable Mate)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- mister.turtle (@The Slow Elf) (edited)

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Jay trusts me

21:29

I should upkeep this since i can drive and deflect off lightpulp

21:31

I dont think burning this trust to get 2 lynches instead of 1 away from us is the play

21:31

I can drive future ones. I have tonight after all

21:35

Pulp resigns

21:35

1 lynch tmr

21:36

Im confident

21:37

I need to buy us time

I keep having to scream to myself to stop mentioning "jay dont overshare!!"

21:48

I'll be busy later so i need to think of my move and lightpulp is eeeeeepy

21:48

Priorities

1) Make lightpulp suspicious tonight. Necessary for him to dodge wolf kill as customer claim, then... 2) Deflect off lynch from lightpulp tomorrow. If necessary make myself the lynch target. 3) Liquidate trust before being found out by Jay. 4) Delay town tempo. Already ongoing because single lynch+i was the main TK (whatever that means)+pulp resign. And if all fails... 5) Hurt town. As MUCH as YEENELY possible before being wiped out

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Yeah

22:22

Sharl scum with that comment

22:22

Knw was already very possible

22:23

And with luffy being wolf and notngiving opinion on rolelist just makes me confident on my reads

22:23

But im undead. Not town

22:24

Delay town tempo

22:24

Cant let light die here

22:25

I just flat out lose

Deflect success

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeah i need to mildly gaslight myself here

00:02

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452430898120232970

00:02

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452435194480164864

00:02

Is sin a waiter?

00:03

wait up

00:03

I

00:03

Something is missing

00:04

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452412892103315466

00:05

If sharl is legit

00:05

I will know a wolf at night

00:05

So jay sends a journal

Dragon of Santa Clause

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452430898120232970

To the huntress

Dragon of Santa Clause

And then told me to water sin

00:06

ok

00:06

That doesnt make sense

00:08

whay

00:08

???

00:08

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616147077337159/1452434486808805491

00:08

a h

00:08

Okay

00:08

Sin is

00:09

Scum claiming secondary tk non huntress

Alive Players | Total: 14

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie and Milk Analyst)

- shapechange (@Chief Elf) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bookkeeper of Joy)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- lightpulp (@Christmas Lights Manager)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf) ⭐ - vicro740 (@Stable Mate)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- mister.turtle (@The Slow Elf) (edited)

Think kal

00:44

;tm

00:44

Not journo

00:45

Child

00:45

Amne maybe though other times in partials it has been mentioned

00:46

Assistant

00:46

wa+hw

00:47

;wp

00:47

;wm

00:47

;wi

00:47

hmm

00:48

So just wi here?

00:48

With dv also

00:48

Idrt it is that plausible

00:48

?

00:50

;tm

00:51

Macho is just weird Runner is also just weird Ranger is overlapping niche with huntress

00:53

FA maybe, jay mentioned a ti could make town weak?

00:53

Amne idk

00:54

;amultet crafter

❗ Could not find role amultet crafter. Did you mean amulet crafter?

;tm

00:55

This one is hard

00:55

I vaguely remember coroner at best

00:56

;tp

00:56

Exorcist with 2 vamps is very likely

00:57

Hooker...

00:58

But why hooker no claim then

00:58

Unlikely and also a weird claim

00:58

Cleric is too convenient

00:58

And can get us in trouble

00:59

Medium is tough

00:59

I feel on the same difficulty as coroner

00:59

Stalker is no

00:59

Herald is also possible

01:00

@Host hypothetical scenario

Herald chooses Priest
Priest is demonized
Priest gets attacked, and turns into Undead

As this is the last Priest, does the herald get notified?

01:07

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452452269286232216

01:07

the yeen keeps winning

01:07

01:08

ok this is good

01:08

This is VERY good

01:08

okay this might just be fucking GAMEWINNING if true

01:12

I think i just full on gave town with that

01:12

Lets see

01:12

This is a gambit

Dragon of Santa Clause

@Host hypothetical scenario

Herald chooses Priest
Priest is demonized
Priest gets attacked, and turns into Undead

As this is the last Priest, does the herald get notified?

Herald only gets notified when the role dies

Naughty List Assessor

Herald only gets notified when the role dies

omg huge

01:15

ok

01:16

Thank you chimi

NP!

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452458922064478208

01:42

My gambit paid off heavy

01:47

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452462431078191215 Totally not from me also tryharding list analysis

01:48

im so sad that jay is probably going to read this when i wake up

01:49

me completely betraying my past self with a 5 star skinwalker impersonation

ok wtf that was so slick

01:58

pats self on back

omg i feel so dirty

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

1

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 22.12.2025 02:58

Pleas eim so eepy

ok

03:44

okay

03:44

for the love of everything beautiful

03:44

dont wake up gray

03:44

no fucking way i lost to a newbie just going

03:53

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1452492257197293723

03:53

mildly infuriating

03:53

gn i hope i turn gray when i wake up byeeeeee

~~url~~

(edited)

why is kalimoor not gray

11:34

:(

11:35

Bass is dead

11:35

Jay is dead

11:35

Striking howl possible masking howl

Ok i may add ocean to jay cc

Dragon of Santa Clause

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1452492257197293723

Ok uhm

Yeah thats on purposs

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

Keeping a huge rolelist up to date gives me the airheadedness i need to scumlean myself on demand

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

ok i realize this means that turtle subbed in wolf again

1

12:31

Turtle confirming barber makes me think thats packXpack

Gaslights ocean

Light and I are cooking

16:06

Ok the huntress thing could be a problem if sin is aw

16:07

16:07

We trying our best here

16:07

And we are probably losing

16:08

butttttttttttttttt

Dragon of Santa Clause

1) Make lightpulp suspicious tonight. Necessary for him to dodge wolf kill as customer claim, then... 2) Deflect off lynch from lightpulp tomorrow. If necessary make myself the lynch target. 3) Liquidate trust before being found out by Jay. 4) Delay town tempo. Already ongoing because single lynch+i was the main TK (whatever that means)+pulp resign. And if all fails... 5) Hurt town. As MUCH as YEENELY possible before being wiped out

(5)

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16:11

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16:11

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yippi

slick

17:10

okay

17:10

okay

17:10

i need ocean to die

im just busted after turtle fiasco

17:19

Nobody knows im watering turtle

ok

19:55

so i will be alone again

19:56

19:56

Need to correct the 'exo alex' error

19:56

but how

20:00

If sin is scw that would be an issue

20:00

whatever

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Announcement

@Magical Flock Herder was cured of Demonized.

FUCK OFF

22:48

fucuj jdjf

22:48

Aaaaa

22:48

cookeeedddd

22:49

Ok so krem/sin are the last demonizeds

22:49

Preposterou

Im so tempted to cause chaos

23:24

Me after explaining to phan that i read him less scummy cuh

23:33

Wtv

23:34

What is happening

23:35

Snivy is a journo claim

23:35

???

23:36

Hmm

23:36

This doesnt make a smidge of sense

23:36

Let me think

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

Not paired with luffy and luffy wolf

23:38

Paired with alex (conf town) swurtle (vamp)

23:38

uh

23:38

What???

23:38

Sin is wolf

23:39

If im pairing sniv with sin then unpairing with luffy

23:39

Something's wrong

23:40

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1452043599389786152

23:41

yes

23:41

But there was a disconmecting argument

23:41

Past self remembers it was disconnecting enough

Dragon of Santa Clause

Mild tunneling

Hmmm

23:43

Reminisces of my priestly past

23:46

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451616149803372687/1451679779626418316

23:46

This interaction

23:46

Doesnt feel manufactured

23:46

Feels too authentic

23:46

Yeah

23:46

This is too stressful urkkk

Thinking

00:26

alrifht

Town rationale here

12:53

Id think ocean is turned

12:53

So i would probably try to cc the next towniest candidate

12:53

And that is

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

Alex?

12:54

Id consider alex turned

12:55

Considering theres a missing kill

12:55

So here i would crash out and break down

12:55

dawg so much for town thinking

12:55

Luckily im undead...!

12:56

I want to take tt

12:56

So i have ulterior motives to not share with alex

12:57

If alex tells ocean i cced him thats ++++town points for both of us

12:57

ok!

12:57

seems like a plan

Alive Players | Total: 11

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie and Milk Analyst) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- mister.turtle (@The Slow Elf)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

12:58

✅ Created #🥉wolf-fucked!

NT phantom is crazy work

12:59

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452994078328488008

12:59

Sssshit

13:00

SAY IT

13:00

SAY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

13:06

omg she did not

13:06

Aok

13:06

Divert the heat here

13:06

aaaa

13:07

Yeen on fire yeen on fire

13:08

okok

13:08

yeen on fire yeen on fire yeen on fire

13:08

❤️‍

13:08

This emoji but a yeen emoji inside

13:08

yeen

13:10

okay

13:11

What the fuck is alex doing

13:11

Idrc but this is gonna bite back his ass and HARD

13:11

WE GOT HIM BOYSSSSS

️

13:15

okay alex is the scapegoat here

13:16

depending on what he writes in ccs hes cooked on the spot

13:16

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452998175186227332

13:16

??????

13:16

okay uhm

13:16

We let ocean spiral on

13:17

That

13:17

...anyways!!

13:18

Im letting ocean come to her own conclusions

13:18

Conclusions that you naturally come to are very hard to budge

Dragon of Santa Clause

Conclusions that you naturally come to are very hard to budge

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1452999563119038565

13:21

Success

13:22

I have created a scapegoat successfully

13:22

13:23

okay

13:23

well

13:23

will this keep me safe

13:23

maybe

13:24

okay i alleviated the tension

13:25

fucking hell

13:25

Why is this one specific game riddled of social close calls

13:29

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1451948793410097204/1453001359195373610

13:29

nAur

13:30

Why can ORG PLAYERS READ when it is my time to be undead

Why am i dual fakeclaiming

13:37

since when

13:37

ong

13:37

absolute cinema

13:41

wtf am i doing dawg

13:41

so im fakeclaiming priest

13:42

As one of the lead TT all along

13:42

Then fakeclaiming alpha wolf

13:43

and framing someone as undead

13:49

alex is ironically wild for calling the cc stupid

13:49

like

13:50

hes right to assume im not stupid enough to do a plan so simple

13:50

13:50

okay so

13:50

I bought myself another day and a night

13:51

Ocean doesnt have good repo targets except me

13:51

Time to sweep in and take the pot

13:52

this silence is killing me

13:53

I feel like a gambler waiting for the machine to go 777

13:54

Theres no way they jointly realize im just framing alex here right?

13:59

JOYOUS

13:59

YEAHHHH

13:59

YEAHHHHH

13:59

YEAHHHHH

13:59

777 BABY

14:00

10 GAZILLION DOLLA

Neo is scummy here but necessary for my lie

14:08

Lets see

14:08

It can just be wp forgot

14:08

Or recluse

# 10/10

14:21

Fuck i need them to stop yapping

14:21

This is jeopardizing my lie

14:23

YES OCEAN SPIRAL WEIRDLY AF

14:23

️

14:23

SPIRAL SPIRAL SPIRAL AHHHH

14:25

im gaslighting her so hard

14:29

sin the perfectly sane wolf Tuetle the perfectly sane wolf Alex the perfectly sane AT all now turned undead because yeen said so with a "fr" at the end

14:29

ok

14:30

theres so many logic holes in this

14:30

i just need to weather out ocean

14:31

get an "ok"

14:31

get a "yes"

14:31

need her to stop discussing or she will end up claiming to alex whole list

14:32

ok maybe i just say im heading out

14:32

cuz i actually am

14:38

To think all this effort could be in vain

14:38

All this effort for a likely wolf win

14:39

Because im handing win to wolves not town (maybe unless they threaten me)

14:39

Idrt we win this by vote power alone

14:39

Town lost main TK (me)

14:40

There are 3 wolves (after lynch) 2 if sin turns tn 2 days and in those 2 days im likely dead

14:41

Maybe if i somehow set up sin for mayor...

14:41

Even then it would need to be a 1v1 thats just not happening

14:41

I would have to rewrite my whole rolelist a third time to frame sin as the perfect mayor candidate

14:42

I may do that to the best of my ability

14:43

undead arent winning

14:43

probably

14:43

lets see if wolves do

14:44

I would need to threaten wolves expertly

14:45

Actually, i would have to play almost exactly like a known WWW that got TT

14:47

Turned sin is the leash to all wolves because he can just leak hes undead and leak all wolves and town just wins

14:48

jahdjfhfjsjf

14:48

Snoozing this game honk mimimimi

14:48

14:48

Have to be busy

yeen returns.

~~url~~

(edited)

The lack of hyena gifs in tenor is criminal

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16:35

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bro

17:37

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1452993682738249861/1453060884942557449

Dragon of Santa Clause

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1452993682738249861/1453060884942557449

Everytime i see this i fucking laugh

17:40

omg

17:40

okay

17:40

well

17:41

It was about time I gave up

17:41

As insane as my plans have worked out

17:41

I can't foresee this

17:47

Is there any way to get out of this situation?

17:48

No because all alex has to do is check me and im busted

17:48

Okay 5th directive hurt town

17:49

maybe they kill ocean

17:49

maybe i can make some deals

17:55

Maybe i can tell them to get me off the hook and i help them hurt wolves by threatening to turn sin

17:57

Do i cc turtle and threaten him

nah girl this situation is cooked

18:48

Best i can do is waste alex inves

18:49

What is ocean gonna do? Target me?

18:49

Its better killing wolves

18:50

Killing me is asking to lose

18:50

This means i cant take tt

18:50

Hmmm

18:51

Im still in the game if sin somehow gets killed by ocean btw

And sin turns

19:01

Which scw/aw are both real threats

No way phan ccs me.

19:14

Was my read actually right

Maaaybe i dont gve up until i see that ocean is set on killing me

Yeah i think ocean knows something is up

Announcement

yeen

@Dragon of Santa Clause was cured of Demonized.

️

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeah i think ocean knows something is up

^

Holidays will make me extremely IA

23:02

Welp

23:03

Blaming hosts for making vamp game before holidays thight

thight

23:03

~~can i turn gray already~~

~~url~~

(edited)

thight

This is cooked

02:09

Please just wake up gray theres nothing i can even do

Phan with my info is a bad water as alex said NT

02:26

I would actually not water here at all

02:26

hummm

02:27

But im assuming alex is undead to make my lie work

02:27

Anyways

02:27

Im not sure ill be awake for PC

02:27

Best of luck for the yeen -# please wake up gray Gn

02:28

#

️ Sinisfuel will get turned and not killed by ocean dying and shooting him

️

oh my god

12:33

the manifestations ACTUALLY worked

12:36

im so giddy

# Krem is done for

12:54

# This what u get for outing me

;tm

13:05

All my yeenful wrath

13:05

runner

13:06

yeah just runner

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

no.

14:17

wait.

14:17

# i was the witch

14:18

no

14:19

omg

14:19

thats actually perfect

14:20

oh my god

14:20

Thats

14:20

Actually eprfect

14:21

It relies on ocean not leaking to alex though

14:21

Last ditch effort

14:21

omg imnabout to have so much fun

14:21

Okay

You have hit the CC limit of 2 CCs!

@Host

14:24

14:26

Ty chimi

14:26

Im so giddy

14:26

Im back in the game babyyyy

✅ Created #🤝alphayeen-pack-diplomacy!

im so

14:47

fucking

14:47

hyena

im being mean to them

15:00

This is what they get for leaking me smfh

15:00

Glsres at krem

Reclines

15:43

Unlife is good

15:43

yeen

15:46

oh im clocking

15:46

this

15:46

duck so hard

I think

16:14

Alex knows something is up

# god we are SO BACK

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

Sin+me undead

16:56

7

16:56

Krem+phan wolf

16:56

5

16:56

Ml town

16:57

4

16:57

Wolves kill town

16:57

3

16:57

3 town vs 2 undead vs 2 wolf

16:57

Lynch town

16:57

2

16:57

Kill town (ideal case scenario)

Dragon of Santa Clause

3 town vs 2 undead vs 2 wolf

3 town vs 2+1 undead vs 2 wolf

16:58

Need a wolf lynched here

16:58

maybe i cook up krem

16:58

yeah i feel like it so

16:59

2+1 undead vs 1 wolf vs 2 town after night

16:59

Lynch wolf and we win

16:59

But ofc its not gonna be easy

16:59

Needs enough manipulation

Dragon of Santa Clause

3 town vs 2+1 undead vs 2 wolf

3 town vs 2+1 undead vs 2 wolf and i ml town again OR i lynch wolf

17:00

i need to lynch wolf to assure they cant just kingmake town

17:02

I could "leak" i appointed a town as TT

17:06

Then they have no reason to kill me because they will keep my good frend sin safe with my manufactured list and they will just die

17:06

After this ML i have no reason to keep wolves safe actually

im having so much fun waging psychological warfare on krem/phan

️

N2 N4 no death nights

19:25

Wolves hit N4 neo (assumed runner)

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

2 undead vs 2 wolf vs 4 town

19:26

Kill undead

19:26

1 undead vs 2 wolf vs 4 town

19:26

leaky

19:32

Need to solidify trust

19:32

With neo

19:32

Yuki trusts me 100%

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

Alex is too rational thinking. He will realize

19:33

Snivy i can control by proxy of alex

19:33

Need him to check krem

19:33

Then he will leak krem to snivy

19:34

So when the next lynch is krem, snivy will agree without a doubt

19:34

Neo I'm pocketing

19:35

Ironclad perfection

19:36

Only issue: krem might leak us

19:37

In which case town wins

19:37

Actually wolves always lose here

Yeah so the game is solved to:

Lynch fish and don't take that big of a rep hit
Survive the night
Lynch krem without wolves leaking
Survive the night
Lynch phan. No idea if wolves leaking hurts winning chances here

✅ Created #🤝townyeen-diplomacy!

sorry for pinging you sm chimi btw

It’s ok

1

Okay so

20:05

If i suck up to snivy I'll probably convince them

20:05

They are veey personally motivated

20:05

I know how to sweet talk phan

20:06

Idrk krem

20:06

Neo seems to just be in a 'we are just cooked' mindset

20:06

Yuki is just sheeping

20:06

We have like a 20% chance to win

20:30

Anyways uhhh eepy time

20:31

Fish has been online at like

20:31

7

20:31

1 hour after PC

20:31

i knew they were perfect town lynch tg after i let some time pass

20:31

Even though that's kinda assholey

20:32

In any case it is the weakest claim

20:32

I think

Dragon of Santa Clause

Yeens & Rolelists [SOLVED] ⭐

Town | (9)

• 1x Town Power ⤷ 1x Exorcist -

Yuki • 1x Town Investigative ⤷ 1x Aura Teller -

Alex • x2 Town Killing ⤷ 1x ~~Priest~~ Witch - yeen

yeen

Kalimoor ⤷ 1x Huntress -

Ocean† • x5 Town Miscellaneous ⤷ 2x Devout Villager -

Jay†,

Fish ⤷ 1x Runner -

Neo ⤷ 2x Journalist -

Sharl†,

Snivy

Wolf | (5)

• 1x Wolf Investigative ⤷ Psychic Wolf -

Turtle† • 2x Wolf Miscellaneous ⤷ Wolf -

Luffy† ⤷ Sneaking Wolf -

️ Phantom • 2x Wolf Killing ⤷ Lone Wolf → Wolf -

Kremlin ⤷ Howling Wolf -

Sinisfuel

Solo | (2)

• 2x Solo Power ⤷ 2x Vampire - thight

thight

Swurtle†,

Lightpulp† ⤷ 2x Undead -

Sinisfuel, yeen

yeen

Kalimoor

Unaligned | (1)

• 1x Unaligned Killing ⤷ Chef -

‍⬛ Bass†

Info

yeen

~~Kalimoor | Priest~~

N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ❌
N4 - ❌
N5 - ️ ❌

yeen

"Kalimoor | Witch"

N2 attack ✅ | defend Alex | Aura Teller
N1 - ❌
N2 - ✅
N3 - ✅
N4 - ️ ❌
N5 - ❌
N6 - ✅
Notes
N3 masking+Striking night
3x Waiters - , †,
"I assume I got attacked N2" Likely | Unlikely | Confirmed | Guess | Dead†

-# Last updated: Mid D5 (edited)

Snivy fish neo yea

20:32

Snivy > neo > fish

20:34

Coincidental that she was also best lynch tg tbh

@Host can I get a rundown of the cases that a game is considered a stalemate/tie? And how it affects ratings

Dragon of Santa Clause

@Host can I get a rundown of the cases that a game is considered a stalemate/tie? And how it affects ratings

Ties only happen if no team can win, and it means everyone dead is counted as a loss

Christmas Village Manager

Ties only happen if no team can win, and it means everyone dead is counted as a loss

Is a stalemate different(?)

There is no such thing as stalemate in WWR, only Win Loss, Tie or Draw

Christmas Village Manager

There is no such thing as stalemate in WWR, only Win Loss, Tie or Draw

Oh what is a draw

21:04

And how it affect rating

When a game is ended early by hosts

21:04

Image attachment

Christmas Village Manager

Click to see attachment 🖼️

️ what does "endured" mean im also curios

Made it through the game without leaving the discord or achieving a negative result, given to losers, so a slightly higher multiplier is used to adjust for TA%

1

Christmas Village Manager

Made it through the game without leaving the discord or achieving a negative result, given to losers, so a slightly higher multiplier is used to adjust for TA%

Is it "legal" to request a draw to another team, if any action from a team results in a self inflicted loss for said team?

No

Christmas Village Manager

No

Okay ty kruthers I might ask more specific questions down the line for this because uhhh yuh

21:07

21:07

that aside

21:07

thinking

21:08

Wolf kills town

21:08

lynch wolf tmr

21:08

Wolves leak us

21:08

Wolf is still lynched

21:08

So in that scenario

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

7

21:08

2 undead 1 wolf 4 town

21:09

IF wolves kill undead, not enough scum votes. Town win

As long as you are never doing something that makes you lose you are fine, even if you know it results in a draw that is still ok

IF undead lynch wolves, town+wolves turn on undead. Results in early situation. Town win

Christmas Village Manager

As long as you are never doing something that makes you lose you are fine, even if you know it results in a draw that is still ok

Yes I'm 100% trying to play for a win here, but I mean "in the case a decision I take just results in my loss"

21:11

But alr alr

21:11

Am I allowed to present the possibility of a draw to a team in the same predicament?

21:13

not as in "let's draw" more as in presenting the situation

Yes but if they can win without a draw they will be expected to do so. If the only way your teams win is with a draw then you can try

21:15

But if hosts think it's possible to win and you not playing to win, it can result in you getting done for game throwing or gross negligence

Christmas Village Manager

But if hosts think it's possible to win and you not playing to win, it can result in you getting done for game throwing or gross negligence

understood

Christmas Village Manager

Yes but if they can win without a draw they will be expected to do so. If the only way your teams win is with a draw then you can try

And also understood

21:21

Think kal think

Alive Players | Total: 9

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- murrfiish (@Fishy Elf)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

What do wolves and undead and town do here optimally

21:24

First of all ML town

21:24

4v2+1v2 (edited)

21:28

Wolf kills town [GAME CONTINUE]
Wolf kills non-mayor undead [DRAW]
Wolf kills mayor undead [TOWN WIN

21:30

if wolf kills non-mayor undead, undead is forced to vote with wolves even while leaking wolves. Wolves then if they kill town undead lynch wolf and lose due to vote power, as the undead know they cant survive an endgame with wolves. At that point scum kill eachother until town wins So the optimal is to tie the lynches (undead un-act) and skip kills (wolf un-act) to reach a tie, as doing anything other than this results in loss

21:32

if wolf kills mayor undead, they lack too much votepower even with other undead. As the undesd leak wolves scum bleeds until they lose, as undead cannot afford getting lynched over wolves and lynching wolves helps endgame, but then undead gets lynched after town takes control. Town wins (edited)

21:32

Now evaluating wolf kills town

21:32

3v2+1v2

21:34

Undead's optimal play is to capitalize on the superior vote power to vote out wolf. MLing town is inoptimal as this is bleeding too much votepower so wolves eventually win

21:34

Wolf is lynched. Undeads+wolves are exposed

21:35

3v2+1v1

21:39

Wolf kills town [GAME CONTINUE]
Wolf kills non-mayored undead [GAME CONTINUE]
Wolf kills mayored undead [TOWN WIN]
Wolf chooses to skip kills [DRAW]

(edited)

21:42

after 2v2+1v1 town + wolf will unite to not let undead win and tie lynch. If wolves kill mayored undead DRAW/TOWN WIN, if wolves kill town, UNDERWORLD WIN, if wolves kill unmayored undead, GAME CONTINUE ★ (edited)

if wolves kill non-mayored undead that is 3v1+1v1. Both parties agree to tie as lynching eachother at day results in loss due to votepower. Wolves kill town. ★ 2v1+1v1. If undead gets lynched, WOLF WIN. If wolf gets lynched, KALIMOOR+[TOWN]+[TOWN] TIE (edited)

21:55

So

21:55

At the very end of the line

21:55

The optimal path results in town being kingmakers

21:57

its wildly ironic that optimally sin never wins here

21:57

-# 😭

21:58

NO

21:58

OPTIMALLY

21:58

IT'S A TIE

21:59

since town cannot win as an alignment, individual directive is to draw if possible. So wolf is lynched here optimally

Calculated lie

22:25

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453378546759110666/1453498855550091335

@Naughty List Assessor i'm making it my mission to make this game end next year if possible frfrfrfr

22:36

/j

lmao!!

im so giddy

22:50

ok

22:50

i tell alex to do krem dirty here

22:53

And and

22:53

Snivy then goes 'aham!!!!!!!!'

22:59

meowoow

im yellow

23:17

im a walking lemonoide

23:17

I think this is symptom of stop.

Dragon of Santa Clause

Undead's optimal play is to capitalize on the superior vote power to vote out wolf. MLing town is inoptimal as this is bleeding too much votepower so wolves eventually win

Im technically being selfish here i realize

23:53

We can ML town 2v2+1v2 Wolf kills mayor undead. Sin activates sleeper agent 2v1v2 Wolf is lynched. Town is elected mayor (play by optimal undead to force cooperation) 2+1v1v1 Wolf kills mayor town 1v1v1 Town+undead lynches wolf to force a tie, as any other situation is WOLF WIN. Wolf kingmakes between undead+town with mayor election 1+?v1+? [ELECTED TEAM WIN] (edited)

23:53

no...

23:53

mayor election

23:56

no

23:56

fuck... the elections

️

23:57

oh yeah i cant go that path

23:57

It is unoptimal and not just selfish then

00:03

I feel all situations devolve into 2 town vs 1 undead vs 1 wolf

Alive Players | Total: 8

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

yuki

00:10

yuki loves solos and uas

00:12

3v2+1v2 lynch wolf → 3v2+1v1 wolf kill... ~~(undead mayor)~~ undead non-mayor →→ ~~3v1v1 (loss) (skip)~~ 3v1+1v1 tie lynch 3v1+1v1 (decide to pass) kill town →→ ~~3v1+1v1 3WAY DRAW, otherwise ↓~~ 2v1+1v1 lynch wolf, KALIMOOR+TOWN+TOWN TIE (edited)

00:13

no wait

00:13

Fail in reasoning

00:15

This chain only gives draws and a KAL+TOWN+TOWN tie if played out perfect

00:16

So

00:16

It is optimal for me specifically

00:16

Like

00:17

It is net 0 for my team

00:17

But it is optimal to a personal win to leak sin is the undead here

Alive Players | Total: 8

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

sniv/yuki love solos and uas

Dragon of Santa Clause

3v2+1v2 lynch wolf → 3v2+1v1 wolf kill... ~~(undead mayor)~~ undead non-mayor →→ ~~3v1v1 (loss) (skip)~~ 3v1+1v1 tie lynch 3v1+1v1 (decide to pass) kill town →→ ~~3v1+1v1 3WAY DRAW, otherwise ↓~~ 2v1+1v1 lynch wolf, KALIMOOR+TOWN+TOWN TIE (edited)

This is my dream pair walking into this situation

00:25

I need neo out

00:25

why the fuck do I feel like whenever I play high hearts

00:25

this is giving me jack of hearts flashbacks

00:26

i can only pray

Dragon of Santa Clause

3v2+1v2 lynch wolf → 3v2+1v1 wolf kill... ~~(undead mayor)~~ undead non-mayor →→ ~~3v1v1 (loss) (skip)~~ 3v1+1v1 tie lynch 3v1+1v1 (decide to pass) kill town →→ ~~3v1+1v1 3WAY DRAW, otherwise ↓~~ 2v1+1v1 lynch wolf, KALIMOOR+TOWN+TOWN TIE (edited)

Let me evaluate

00:34

I feel so dirty that im considering selling out sin here

Dragon of Santa Clause

3v2+1v2 lynch wolf → 3v2+1v1 wolf kill... ~~(undead mayor)~~ undead non-mayor →→ ~~3v1v1 (loss) (skip)~~ 3v1+1v1 tie lynch 3v1+1v1 (decide to pass) kill town →→ ~~3v1+1v1 3WAY DRAW, otherwise ↓~~ 2v1+1v1 lynch wolf, KALIMOOR+TOWN+TOWN TIE (edited)

no

00:36

It is ALWAYS this

Dragon of Santa Clause

3v2+1v2 lynch wolf → 3v2+1v1 wolf kill... ~~(undead mayor)~~ undead non-mayor →→ ~~3v1v1 (loss) (skip)~~ 3v1+1v1 tie lynch 3v1+1v1 (decide to pass) kill town →→ ~~3v1+1v1 3WAY DRAW, otherwise ↓~~ 2v1+1v1 lynch wolf, KALIMOOR+TOWN+TOWN TIE (edited)

Town eval just results in 2v2+1v1 where either tie or town kingmakes for undead win

00:39

# we actually have a winning chance

00:39

# a real winning chance

00:39

# after so much doom and gloom

00:40

this game feels like such an ego stroke from how much of a rollercoaster it is being + clashing with my holidays

00:41

Like if i didn't lock in heavy d3 i would have been the lynch and it is over

00:41

locked in ever since d0

️

00:43

omfg this is so wild considering i was eating as priest just to get thrown in the mud with a lightpulp-only underworld with unlucky af demonizes and i manage to turn a wolf by manipulating the kill of the huntress

00:43

likehaxsbjdshcnx

00:43

ok bye

00:43

im going insane

# Merry Jolly Christmas yeen

yeen

11:22

I will be busy so bye

Merry Christmas!

rises and shines

15:45

If wp kills me they lose btw

15:46

Or well it's a forced tie i think

15:47

Kill me undead forced to tie w/ town

15:47

No mayor elected

15:47

Town just has to vote undead

15:47

And undead's hand is forced

15:47

3v1v2

15:47

If wolf kills town then

15:48

2v1v2 undead kingmaker?

15:48

Theres a mayor election

15:48

"If you vote me, you lose" mentality on undead as they are kingmaker

15:49

Undead would request to be made mayor

15:49

Or can town/wolf force it?

15:50

"Give me mayor or we lynch you" doesn't work as undead's vote is kingmaker

15:50

wolf is lynched. Undead mayor

15:50

2v1+1v1

15:50

any action wolf takes here leads to loss?

15:50

Yep

15:51

so killing me is a wrong move

15:51

in any situation

15:51

for wolf

15:52

as town eventually, in the chain of rationale, can at least draw or tie as long as they work with undead

Dragon of Santa Clause

If wolf kills town then

Now

15:53

no

15:53

theres no other case where

15:53

oh

15:53

fuck

15:53

wolves never win

15:53

only draw

15:53

a draw is not possible in all cases I die

15:55

So the optimal case wolves do is kill town

15:56

Hehzhdhf

All that can be done

16:15

Wolves cannot 'legally' skip here to force a draw, can they?

16:16

No and guardian would exist

16:16

So even worse to draw the game out even if for a night

16:16

Bgddhdjxjtjjdjshfg

16:16

well they can its just that it is a terrible play

16:17

off until near PC

ruh pluh pluh

17:36

Im ccing and pocketing neo/yuki/snivy

okay

22:06

the fact that both krem and phan come online at the same time fries me

22:07

Starting to believe sin's cc theory

Alive Players | Total: 8

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Magical Flock Herder)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past)

- thekremblin (@The Krampus) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

# it is the grand finale

23:43

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453459787554754663/1453880841053667420

23:43

...and also i know you would give solos the win if you had to choose wolves VS solo

23:44

yeen

✅ Created #🤝sinless-diplomacy!

@Host can a wolf forgo an alignment draw for another alignment win

01:40

i know i asked draw vs tie situation but.

01:40

win makes things different

01:40

another tough question

I’m not entirely sure. I think when they realize they can’t win, they can become king maker. But I think @Christmas Village Manager can answer better maybe. The kingmaker vs throwing scenario is kinda hard to say

Naughty List Assessor

I’m not entirely sure. I think when they realize they can’t win, they can become king maker. But I think @Christmas Village Manager can answer better maybe. The kingmaker vs throwing scenario is kinda hard to say

Oh no I don't mean kingmaking In the hypothetical the wolf is demonized and kills themselves (knowing that staying as wolf they would stay for a draw at best) in favor of a win (as undead in this case)

Oh, yikes. I have a feeling that is throwing as their original alignment but

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Naughty List Assessor

Oh, yikes. I have a feeling that is throwing as their original alignment but

‍♂️

I dont know

It also feels like a good play

this is why im asking

01:44

Yeah

01:44

This is rough

01:45

Hmmm

Dragon of Santa Clause

Oh no I don't mean kingmaking In the hypothetical the wolf is demonized and kills themselves (knowing that staying as wolf they would stay for a draw at best) in favor of a win (as undead in this case)

I will summon @Vera for this question cuz tough as hell cookie

01:46

(Vera hiiii)

You have hit the CC limit of 5 CCs!

@Naughty List Assessor can i use my undead powers and do a ritual circle and summon jay's admin powers for my question /hj

Half joking?

Naughty List Assessor

Half joking?

Yuh

lol

02:01

Vera probably knows the right answer

In vera we trust

02:01

Very game deciding

02:02

oh yeah vera wrote the rule themselves

02:03

ok ty chimiii

02:03

I will now eep

Dragon of Santa Clause

@Host can a wolf forgo an alignment draw for another alignment win

No they must play according to there current alignment at all times so can't chose to play for a draw if there alignment changes

02:26

They cannot actively sabotage their current alignment in hopes to win with a future alignment

Dragon of Santa Clause

I will summon @Vera for this question cuz tough as hell cookie

yummy 2am ping for a game im not paying attention to <3

05:42

also what jordan said

1

Vera

also what jordan said

Thanks vera

Vera

yummy 2am ping for a game im not paying attention to <3

Exdee

Christmas Village Manager

No they must play according to there current alignment at all times so can't chose to play for a draw if there alignment changes

Quoting this

11:07

I think it's fine since it is a rule question

11:07

Ty kruthers

What can they possibly hope to achieve here

12:13

Kill me?

yeah i think everyone is accepting it

12:48

what a stressful game

12:49

The vote plan was to assure I wasn't sniped

12:50

It still is possible but the more cooperation needed for a snipe the faster they will give up on it

Dragon of Santa Clause

Exdee

killing you tbh im such a hater

Vera

killing you tbh im such a hater

Hey! In my defence it was a really really good question... Who better to ask the question to

the hosts

12:52

who were the ones who answered in the end

Chimi was a tad confused aswell

Vera

who were the ones who answered in the end

Fair

12:52

Kruthers goated

chimi wasnt the only host?

12:53

i personally really prefer you wait for hosts, and if hosts dont know they can ping us in a private channel

12:53

i dont like answering questions uninformed

Vera

i personally really prefer you wait for hosts, and if hosts dont know they can ping us in a private channel

Noted for future reference

12:54

Sorry vera

i understand why you pinged tho

12:55

it can be seen as a tough question

12:55

and i personally created reason for the draw result to exist so its extra special uglysmile

uglysmile

Vera

and i personally created reason for the draw result to exist so its extra special uglysmile

uglysmile

Yippe

12:58

Have there been 3way draws before

Vera

it can be seen as a tough question

I also learnt from it, it makes sense with the new rule Old rule would be 'oh yea ya gonna draw, just win lmao'

Dragon of Santa Clause

Have there been 3way draws before

uh thats a tie youre thinking of

13:18

draw is when the game just gets ended

13:19

tie is when the game cant go on mechanically

13:20

draws are only when i game cant go on for out-of-game or inactivity reasons afaik

13:21

like gamethrowing/cheating that affects the game too much for a game to go on or if the inactivity is so bad the game just doesnt work out

13:24

draws and ties should never be the intention (unless youre like, lone solo or something)

Dragon of Santa Clause

I also learnt from it, it makes sense with the new rule Old rule would be 'oh yea ya gonna draw, just win lmao'

new rule? old rule? what are you on about here?

Vera

new rule? old rule? what are you on about here?

Technically clarification but Play for alignment

Vera

like gamethrowing/cheating that affects the game too much for a game to go on or if the inactivity is so bad the game just doesnt work out

ough

Vera

draws and ties should never be the intention (unless youre like, lone solo or something)

well

Dragon of Santa Clause

Technically clarification but Play for alignment

huh

14:55

thats not a new rule

14:55

thats been a rule for i think the entire span of this server

Vera

thats been a rule for i think the entire span of this server

Not play w/ future alignment in mind(?)

huh

14:57

can you form sentences

14:57

im confused what youre trying to say and you keep pinging me so i assume you want answers

Vera

like gamethrowing/cheating that affects the game too much for a game to go on or if the inactivity is so bad the game just doesnt work out

Curious, has a game been ended by draw for mass IA reason

Vera

im confused what youre trying to say and you keep pinging me so i assume you want answers

Oh nah it is fine

Dragon of Santa Clause

Curious, has a game been ended by draw for mass IA reason

yea

14:59

like 7 IA but a despot had won already and hosts felt bad for not giving despot the win

14:59

so we came up with a new result so despot still won but nobody else got anything

15:00

or much, ig

Vera

like 7 IA but a despot had won already and hosts felt bad for not giving despot the win

Seven IAs is crazy

Vera

so we came up with a new result so despot still won but nobody else got anything

That's actually very nice

yea it was great, i was that despot :)))

Vera

yea it was great, i was that despot :)))

LMAO

15:03

a win is a w i n

15:04

ok game processing mode

15:06

3v2+1v2 Town can lynch me here? With the help of wolves

15:06

3v1v2

15:07

i dont stop this. Killing town here is bad right?

15:07

2v2+1v2

15:07

oh

15:07

2v1v2

15:07

no im threatening wolves with a loss

15:08

yea

Dragon of Santa Clause

3v1v2

This is a draw still

15:08

I think so

15:08

Kill town means undesd gets mayor

15:08

ye

15:08

okay

Dragon of Santa Clause

2v1v2

This is a possible tie. I don't want this

15:11

Since technically it is an alignment loss or something

15:12

+ mayor undead staying alive deadlocks many town win possibilities into also a draw

15:12

what if i gaslight phan

15:12

and tell him to kill town again like lmaooo

15:13

well it is the very very very very last thing i can try to win so lets do it when the time comes

15:13

If he skips hes dead too so

15:13

uh

15:13

hmm

15:13

wait up

Dragon of Santa Clause

If he skips hes dead too so

Yes but this means

15:13

a tie

15:14

3town+2 undead tie

15:14

Since lynch phan here obvi

15:14

or

15:14

Lynch... Me?

15:14

i think so

15:14

3v1v1 Kill town 2v1v1 Tie mayor

15:14

ye

15:14

Also a draw

15:17

I guess it's illegal for myself to be suggested for lynch (to cause a draw and therefore an alignment draw instead of personal win) so optimally I cause a... Tie in that situation? Lmfao this endgame is weird as hell

15:17

Last wolf has to be lynched in 3v2+1v1 daytime

15:17

Lynch town is causing a draw too?

15:17

h uh

15:18

2v2+1v1

15:18

Wolf kill

15:18

2v1v1

15:18

honestly im so confused on what path to follow so I will assume "Keep as many teammates alive" takes precedence

Dragon of Santa Clause

I guess it's illegal for myself to be suggested for lynch (to cause a draw and therefore an alignment draw instead of personal win) so optimally I cause a... Tie in that situation? Lmfao this endgame is weird as hell

So i cause a tie by lynching wolf there

Dragon of Santa Clause

2v1v1

Instead of a draw by lynching town(?)

15:19

a

15:19

well whatever lets see what phan does at night

15:19

killing me = losing

3v2+1v1

23:01

okay

23:01

my last play

23:01

Is to tell phan to kill town here

23:01

im pretty sure he wont but

23:01

for the shits and giggles it doesnt hurt to try

23:01

if he skips he also loses

23:01

so

23:02

I will just say that if i die he loses

23:04

uhhh

Dragon of Santa Clause

Is to tell phan to kill town here

uhh bo

23:06

no

23:06

2v2+1v1

23:06

here wolf+town unite and tie vs undead as doing otherwise instantly lose

23:06

night comes

23:07

Wolf kills mayored undead

23:07

.... It is also a draw

23:07

What if...

23:07

Phan does nothing

23:07

3v2+1v1 at morning

23:07

Vote out wolf

23:07

Tie

23:09

So kill town+unmayored undead continue the game to a draw Doing nothing is undead+town tie (and phan loses instead of drawing) Killing me is town win

23:12

@Host in the case both are equally possible, am I allowed to prioritize going for a tie more than a draw? (Knowing that an alignment win is not possible)

23:12

Chimi im the tough cookie dispenser here

Draws are not a thing you can cause, they are a host intervention only

o

THe only thing you can cause is a tie, if you cant win or lose (edited)

Christmas Village Manager

THe only thing you can cause is a tie, if you cant win or lose (edited)

So I assume that is a yes (+ the other info) Ty kruthers

23:13

so i literally

23:13

tell phan to not kill me

23:13

and let him just uhm

23:13

rumble

23:13

As long as you and everyone is is playing to there current alignment at all times its up to you to try and get the best result for your team, anything less is against the rules

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Christmas Village Manager

As long as you and everyone is is playing to there current alignment at all times its up to you to try and get the best result for your team, anything less is against the rules

I see, thank you!

23:15

So if a draw cannot be 'caused'

23:15

Then a tie is the next best possible outcome

23:19

okay

23:19

thats about everything

23:20

I just warn him to not kill me

23:20

Kill sin = game continues

23:20

i feel too dirty lying about "optimal this optimal that" so i will forgo and instead craft something different

23:21

No "math" and etc since i dont like lying about how a game is mathematically solved already

1

23:21

but yeah

23:22

"Dont kill me" And "Skip kill"

23:22

One prevents team loss other furthers my goal of aiming for a tie

23:23

Have i thought about resigning mayor?

23:24

thonk

23:24

maybe it shakes up the calc enough and causes enough town+wolf infighting to the point i can coerce a wolf lynch?

23:24

think kal think

23:25

like he obvi kills oh

23:25

oh

23:25

oh

23:25

maybe i

23:25

bluff resigning mayor so he doesnt kill sin?

23:26

wait

23:26

Wait up

23:26

Im meant to aim for a tie

23:26

Right

23:27

2v2+1v1 Tie 2v2+1v1 Wolf kill mayored undead 2v1v1 Tie 2v1v1 Wolf skip poll (doing anything results in alignment loss) 2v1v1 Tie ... ...

23:27

Draw

23:27

# but

23:28

If i resign my vote power

23:28

3v2+1v1

23:28

2v2v1

23:28

this is a tie

23:28

lynch wolf

23:28

Who gets mayor

23:28

Wait

23:28

Fuck

23:28

Wolf is kingmaker

23:29

No scratch ir

23:29

I can't possibly risk a loss when I'm already in this position

Dragon of Santa Clause

Wolf is kingmaker

And phan is 100% rigging for town

23:29

Sad

23:30

technically phan killing sin here is optimal (edited)

23:30

Locks down the gamestate

23:30

He can also kill town

23:30

i have a few ideas

23:31

we can snipe there

23:31

i can call a town lynch, phan will agree

23:31

Last moment. Snipe phan

23:31

thats if he kills town

23:31

So

23:32

Killing sin ends in a draw Killing town is either draw/underworld win Killing me ends in loss Doing nothing is a tie of town+undead

23:32

So the scenario i want is a town death

23:32

It gives me fighting chances

23:37

oh

23:38

i know exactly how to convince him

23:38

A wall of pure. Unbridled. Brainrot. Fluff.

23:38

Withba reminder that killing town is best play

23:38

yes

23:38

Okay time to cook up a 2k long textwall

# hold it

23:46

# guardian

23:46

oh my god

23:47

If he kills non-yuki town i

23:47

Do i uhm uh

23:47

No

23:47

Sad

23:47

They also tie guardian

23:47

Unless

23:47

unlesssss

23:48

Nooo it means nothing

23:48

Back to writing

Alive Players | Total: 6

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Phantom of Christmas Past) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Dragon of Santa Clause)

- aliisniv (@Chief Wreath Designer)

- sinisfuel (@Dispeller of Sin)

- neoimperium (@Neo the Red Nosed Reindeer)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Elf Yuki) (edited)

Ingive up

00:32

All my ideas are cring

00:33

And it all ends up being easy to read

00:33

I need it to be as obnoxious as possible to read as humanely possible

grul i was told to haul some food with my lil cousin while i was half aslep

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453378546759110666/1454268946172874835

01:26

I tried i tried i tried i tried

01:26

I can threaten phan but if he knows this this is just the

01:26

Tjis is just how the game ends

01:26

I can threaten him i can lie but if he does it im just forced into

01:27

Voting with him

01:27

fuck

01:27

okay

# phantom please just kill a goddamn town

01:44

okay

02:10

he

02:10

is

02:10

not

02:10

conceding

02:10

He has a point but hes not understanding mine

02:10

hes so confusing ahhhh

02:13

I really don't understand him at all at times

️

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453378546759110666/1454282827150659637

02:20

You can't blame me for trying

Dragon of Santa Clause

Killing sin ends in a draw Killing town is either draw/underworld win Killing me ends in loss Doing nothing is a tie of town+undead

So it is a draw

I dont geg what he doesnt understand

02:29

It is actually 33% chance kingmaking

02:30

If anyone chooses someone other than themselves for win they lose

02:30

if everyone chooses themselves for win it is not possible

02:30

Waht the hell hes killing sunny

02:30

Bruh

02:31

this means im finally free from this game after tomorrow because he literally explained the dead-lock scenario hes aiming for

02:31

and the fucker knows im not going to vote him out

02:31

hah lmao whayever

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(edited)

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(edited)

hell yeah

02:33

I drawed out a seemingly impossible game from when i turned i feel so chess core

02:34

hes willingly forgoing a possible win scenario for a surefire draw

02:34

which idrc my job was to convince him into that as much as possible because i was gonna kills his ass anyway tomorrow morning anyway if he touched town

02:34

02:35

Wait

02:35

Wsaiit

02:36

ill ask for it tomorrow

02:38

i want a brown name

02:38

Piss name is cool but skin name is rarer

@Host theres no ddmoji in #voting-booth for me

11:15

damn

11:15

Well

11:15

If wolves kill anyone they instantly lose

Dragon of Santa Clause

@Host theres no ddmoji in #voting-booth for me

? All the correct ones are there?

Christmas Village Manager

? All the correct ones are there?

Oh it popped baxk up

11:18

Yippe

11:19

Ok idrk what happened but ty kruthers (my emoji wasnt in guard poll)

Discord just takes a second sometimes to show them

ou

11:21

Got it

Now... Nothing will happen

14:44

# Forever.

would neo allowing themselves to be lynched be considered throwing?

16:44

Harder question than (whoever reads this) think

16:45

because that enables winning instead of a draw

16:45

Wolf kingmaker

16:45

Do nothing = lose Kill undead = lose Kill town = possible win

16:45

so wolf kills town

16:46

oh fuck then it might be relevant to forgo mayor

16:46

since that enables a tie

16:46

1v1+1v1

16:46

town kingmaker now

16:47

Town helps lynch wolf = undead win Town ties with undead = wolf win Town is lynched BUT undead guardian self protects = undead win (Town never wins) (edited)

16:47

guardian poll

16:47

right

16:48

If im guardian i can guarantee this scenario

Dragon of Santa Clause

Town helps lynch wolf = undead win Town ties with undead = wolf win Town is lynched BUT undead guardian self protects = undead win (Town never wins) (edited)

oh my god

16:49

is it actually throwing chat

16:50

Like if neo lets themselves be killed but ties guardian

16:50

its basically 50/50 town win

Dragon of Santa Clause

Town helps lynch wolf = undead win Town ties with undead = wolf win Town is lynched BUT undead guardian self protects = undead win (Town never wins) (edited)

no

16:51

All situations where town oofs themselves result in a town loss right?

16:51

Town oofs themselves + undead guardian means all scenarios result in town loss

16:52

So yes if thwy know this it is throwing

16:52

Without undead guardian though it is not

16:53

2v1+1v1 wolf has to choose a kill

16:53

oh

16:54

It is not counterproductive for phan really

16:57

To give me guardian

16:57

If a town is lynched he always loses

16:58

I guess it very slighty is but only ever relevant for the 'town throws for phan by tying poll' scenario

16:59

Actually just counterproductive to give anyone guardian really

yeah i guessed so

22:05

it is a full out draw

22:07

wait up

22:12

@Host if the game state is stagnant, and any decision outside of perpetuating the same game state hurts your own alignment, but you can reach a different conclusion (let's say, aim for a tie but loss is now possible) by taking a different action, is it allowed?

22:16

town can technically achieve a tie IF they let one of themselves be lynched

22:17

The tough question dispense

22:17

yeen

The alternative is a loss?

Naughty List Assessor

The alternative is a loss?

No, in this hypothetical case, it would hurt your alignment (translates to increasing your chances of losing) But would also increase your chances of achieving a winning result (tie/win)

22:32

The increase would be from never (for both) to possible (for both)

Then it’s okay for them to make this decision!

Alright ty chimi

22:32

You have been eating these tough questions right up actually

22:32

Alright

22:33

Now i apologize because depending on what a few folk say i may have made this game last for 24 more hours

22:35

Possibly even longer

Rule numbero 1 of rationalizing

23:23

If someone or something benefits from you rationalizing wrong, be stubborn and don't listen (muted #🤝townyeen-diplomacy)

23:23

okay

23:23

Assume town is lynched

23:23

2v1+1v1 nightime

23:23

If i resign, and phan does not kill

23:23

Draw

23:24

okay

23:25

2v1+1v1 undead is guardian

23:25

1v1+1v1

23:25

Tie

23:25

no

23:25

wolf never wins. Wolf is kingmaker

23:25

Nightime

23:25

Wolf would be forced to kill town

23:25

As im knowingly guardian

23:29

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453459787554754663/1454601956491264082

23:29

Wolf and town are in contact

okay

23:41

3v1+1v1

23:41

Lymch town

23:41

2v1+1v1

23:41

Mayor resigns. Wolf kills town.

23:41

1v1v1

23:41

Tie

23:41

Possibly, win

23:41

Or loss

23:41

Cointoss

23:41

What if i dont resign

23:42

1v1+1v1

Dragon of Santa Clause

2v1+1v1

no

23:42

theres a

23:42

theres a kingmaking situation

I know i cant win that

23:51

Knowing this

23:51

I instead opt for the 1v1v1 scenario

23:51

?

23:52

Wait no

23:52

If phan DOES kill town

23:52

no

23:52

if phan does not do anything and i resign (hoping for a draw) the game draws

23:53

But if i dont

23:53

It is a tie

23:53

holy

23:53

shit

man i now regret extending this game by twenty-four hours

00:28

00:29

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453378546759110666/1454616990625955975

00:29

omg

00:32

Okay so i put myself in the best possible situation

00:33

Irs a draw and if it is not phan will kingmake me for a win

tbf understandable, by what he said sniv just neglected him

1

00:51

well now irdc

00:51

About if game draws or not

00:52

1) I maximized my winning chances incase of no draw (thanks phan I hope trusting you doesn't bite me in the ass) 2) I maximized the chances of no draw (and, by extension, my winning chances) 3) Idrc if game draws because that's now the baseline scenario that I have NO agency over

Snivy has demonstrated to want to lock me out of a win

11:09

If it comes down to kingmaking

11:09

So

11:09

My best option is yuki

11:09

well

11:09

idk

11:09

neo

11:09

neo is just scary he will ask me to roleplay or something for the vote

OH MY GOD

13:18

NEO IS VOTING WITH ME

13:18

IF I GET GUARDIAN I WIN

13:19

oh my god ok wait.

13:19

Stop cease

13:19

let me think

13:19

I really didnt expect this

13:19

What is neo doing

13:19

W

13:19

I

13:19

uhh

13:19

what

13:19

????????

13:19

2v1+1v1

13:20

Nightime guardian+mayor undead

13:20

Wolf has to kill town

13:20

Or does it?

13:20

Yes it has to

13:20

1v1+1v1

13:20

tie poll

13:20

omg

13:20

wait up wait up

13:20

waawshyehhebcjdx

13:21

does wolf have to

13:21

If they kill town they lose

13:21

If they kill undead they win?

13:21

so

13:21

They kill undead at night NOOOO

13:21

okay.

13:22

So i resign mayor

13:22

no wait wolf has a dilemma

13:22

i may or may not resign mayor

13:28

I don't resign mayor:

Wolf kills town = town kingmaker (never wins), undead (wolf lynch) vs wolf (tie lynch) (optimal being lynching wolf as i extend game with guardian)
- Wolf does nothing = wolf loss. Town and undead unite to lynch out wolf and tie
I resign mayor:
Wolf kills town = 1v1v1 scenario where everyone is kingmaker. As previously established, likely MY win
- Wolf does nothing = 3way draw

13:29

kingmaker town tie VS kingmaker all (likely win) draw (edited)

13:29

fuck they are so goddamn nothing burgeroni

13:30

Too equal

13:30

What am i supposed to go for

13:30

Tie+kingmaker town scenario? All kingmakers+draw scenario?

13:30

wait.

13:30

i have guardian.

13:31

It is optimal for me to cause the tie scenario by invalidating wolfkill!!!!!!

13:31

AND THEN I CAN PROTECT MYSELF

13:31

13:33

13:33

50% chance to win on the spot

13:34

Focus

13:34

So my optimal play then becomes telling phan I'm resigning mayor and to kill town

13:36

Then not resign mayor

13:37

If it goes through it is still likely

13:37

Win for me

13:37

Isn't it?

13:38

yes!!!!

13:38

oh my god

13:38

vibrates

13:38

okay but a solo win like this would be so badass

13:39

like

13:39

full solo win

13:39

so yes my gameplan is set now

13:42

Today

Get guardian
Lynch sniv (counterproductive for kingmaking)

Tonight

Lie to phan about resigning mayor: "to cause a draw"

Tomorrow morning

Ask phan to kingmake for my win, and win, as I will be protected at night

(edited)

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13:42

wait is this what phan meant by "wolves always lose"?

13:42

i hadnt seen this far

13:43

oh im curious about the discussion leading to that conclusion now

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️ I will win or at least tie this game

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️ I will win or at least tie this game

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️ I will win or at least tie this game

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Wait what

15:25

3v2+1v1

15:25

2v1+1v1

15:25

1v2+1v1

15:28

Why is it stupid to kill a town?

15:28

i dont get it

15:28

omg i dont get these people

15:28

i dont get what they dont understand or if they are messing with me whatever man

15:28

Its really not

15:29

It enables a win/tie possibly

15:32

I have to play both camps because ofc

15:33

Befriending either causes my loss in kingmaking

come on

15:47

I have 8 hrs to convince town to lynch a town

15:48

And give me guardian

15:49

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453378546759110666/1454848718854422783

15:49

i guess a lie by omission but wtv

giving me guardian is productive because NO way in hell im giving you guardian and having a guardian on your side greatly boosts your tying chances

some argument for later

15:59

off for now

Im here

17:24

Something tells me town wants to snipe me dead here?

# I will win

20:32

*if town are tupit and dont do anything here

Town is so snipe core

20:51

Pls

20:51

plsss

20:53

omg from loss to draw to tie to WIN?!?!!!!??

20:53

rollercoaster of emotions

20:54

town please go to sleep pls.

20:57

its not quite a win though

@Host am I allowed to introduce the possibility of attaining a tie along with the possibility of win/loss

21:05

Tough question numbero #4

21:08

Of course in the context that when a tie is possible well, the best play is a tie

Dragon of Santa Clause

giving me guardian is productive because NO way in hell im giving you guardian and having a guardian on your side greatly boosts your tying chances

some argument for later

hy

21:10

right

21:10

I have no idea to be honest

21:11

(edited)

21:11

oml they voted

21:11

Whatever man

Dragon of Santa Clause

@Host am I allowed to introduce the possibility of attaining a tie along with the possibility of win/loss

As long as you’re making optimal decisions in attaining the best outcome you can hope for it’s fine

Naughty List Assessor

As long as you’re making optimal decisions in attaining the best outcome you can hope for it’s fine

Ok ty chimi

okay

22:04

well

22:04

if town tie this,

22:05

im pretty much done with this game

22:05

because its really never gonna end

22:05

Can this be me at PC

~~url~~

(edited)

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453459787554754663/1454944461200036013

22:10

PLEASE

22:10

OML

22:10

PLEAES

22:10

OML

22:10

PLEASEEEE

22:17

pls

22:21

please oml pleas

22:23

Im gaslighting snivy so hard for this

# fifteen minutes before phasechange

22:48

Stop thinking for so long snivy

22:49

What does that mean

22:53

did snivy really just

22:53

ghost me

22:53

snivy seemed really convinced

22:54

well, theres always a tomorrow to try again!

22:54

yeen

22:54

Plus neo seems to be an independent mind

22:55

maybe i can go fpr that

22:58

this is a joke by the way as much as i care for potentially getting a win im already drained

22:59

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1453459787554754663/1454956803203792949

22:59

omg snivy you just

22:59

extended the game

22:59

by one more

22:59

Day

22:59

Wait do we reach year end

22:59

oml

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