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Werewolves Bot B BOT 8-5-2026 00:22
@Nibelsnarf has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Somnacanth @Nibelsnarf
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:23
are u going to claim to bakers
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:23
i'm considering it but probably not
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:23
frown
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:23
the double howling wolf message really strongly suggests there's a white werewolf, and if there's a white werewolf there's a very high chance of infecting wolf
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:24
true
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sigh
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but, this is likely our only way to get a tt going, yes?
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:24
although i do see a world in which we have two howling wolves and it's just a small, high-power pack (this is what i originally thought the list was)
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:24
why would we be given more than one way to make a tt
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Somnacanth
although i do see a world in which we have two howling wolves and it's just a small, high-power pack (this is what i originally thought the list was)
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:24
mayhaps, but i trust more in the www
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Nibelsnarf
why would we be given more than one way to make a tt
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:25
tt formation doesn't have to rely on certain confirmable roles (though there usually are multiple that can confirm themselves, there's just high downsides to them doing so) also bakers almost certainly weren't the intended tt formation vehicle
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bakers are not supposed to be tt-forming roles, bc they have that huge downside to claiming
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:26
ah ok
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good to know
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i assumed set lists were built with the idea of one confirmable role and the reset were capable counters to what the set designers forsaw
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:27
i'm not sure what the tt vehicle might be - it's not impossible huntsman could form a hidden tt, but it's dependant on circumstance - but i hope there's another one bc tbh bakers just don't stand a chance of collecting enough claims atp, bc of low trust
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Nibelsnarf
i assumed set lists were built with the idea of one confirmable role and the reset were capable counters to what the set designers forsaw
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:27
it REALLY depends on the list designer. someone like ts or i is going to have lower confirmability in a list
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some will have higher
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the key is generally designing interesting lists, which are usually ones with little chance of forming an early tt but good chances of forming one later. else the game is just too unbalanced
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:29
ic ic good to know
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ty for telling me
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:29
i could talk about list design all day lol it's so fun
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but yea
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:29
it does appear that there will be 6 kills on the oncomming nights and no tt will be formed
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:29
hard to say
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:30
can i have ur scum reads, ill give mine in turn
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:30
should be five max - two normal, two from striking cry, one from baker
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:30
baker
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counts
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both times
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right?
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or
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:30
nope
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:30
wait
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no
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:30
only first one
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:30
i siked myself with that
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nvm
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so yes
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5 not 6
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my apologies
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Nibelsnarf
can i have ur scum reads, ill give mine in turn
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:31
i honestly cant say i have many yet, i have a couple people who stick out to me as town and one who might be scum but i would not wager money on it
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which is ts
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:31
ok
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yeah my reads for wolves are
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ts, kal, ocean
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:31
oooh okay interesting that we agree on ts
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:32
that or he is baker
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:32
his logic on the infw thing is obviously sound, i agree with it, but to me it's not normal for him to reject an idea outright, he's more likely to think and theorise around any possibilities to turn it into something good
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id love to hear more on kal and ocean
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:33
thats why im set on kal actually, when i spoke to him and from what ive seen in his town square, he speaks as though infw is NOT a possibilty, ignores it out right
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which tells me he is pack
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Nibelsnarf
thats why im set on kal actually, when i spoke to him and from what ive seen in his town square, he speaks as though infw is NOT a possibilty, ignores it out right
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:33
thats super interesting
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:33
if there is an infw wolf? idk...
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kal is too good a player, he could easily be faking this behaviour
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:34
to me he said a lot that he thought www/devil was def the solo, so it would make wayyy more sense for him to insist on infw than reject it
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that is genuinely a major read from u
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:34
that as well, if he was town i feel like he would have "ran numbers" already
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Somnacanth
that is genuinely a major read from u
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:34
oh thank you, i feel special
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:35
ive noticed that u get some crazy reads in it's very impressive
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:35
omg thank you, cough wolf cough
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:35
hkjdfhgjdbgkd
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:35
dont butter me up, feels like ur pack
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:35
lemme just 🧈
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:35
im crine
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:35
there's only two paths in life
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the butter or the knife
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im serious about the reads though, i remember u getting some insane ones in ur first game with light as witch though for the life of me i cant remember who
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and then u pinging kal as solo d0 was wild
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:36
oh yeah, that was obvi from kal im ngl
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i got a gut feeling when he spoke to me, i believe that due to me being new he wasnt careful
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:37
kal is one of those people who does play fairly consistently as town and wolf altho there are some gaps
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:37
i suppose solo is where he cracks then
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he doesnt read as solo here, he reads as back 100%
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i call ts 100% for the same reasons you have
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well ts
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is more 80%
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due to baker possiblity
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i actually forsee a ts and kal ctc to these bakers tmr if they dont die
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Nibelsnarf
i suppose solo is where he cracks then
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:38
yea, solo is hard (as someone who, like kal, plays similarly in most town/wolf games) bc you just can't be as active bc wolves will fucking merc u
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Nibelsnarf
due to baker possiblity
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:39
i dont think hes baker
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ig it's possible
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but i just dont
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Somnacanth
i dont think hes baker
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:39
thats his only option as town
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and i cant full read him as scum either, he feels off
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but not in a way that screams wolf
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he COULD be packless
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:40
i guess he might be pr or solo who didnt want to discuss too much bc of "getting merced" potential
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:40
true
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:41
but rn he's scum lean to me
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im gonna backread kal
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:42
Oki
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I never got into ocean but basically their way of speaking when I spoke in a cc with them read as scum due to it feeling fabricated and meticulous thought over
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:43
hmm inch resting
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could u like paste an example message or smth (one or two examples is fine and legal, a whole cc isnt)
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:49
uh
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let me check
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ubless wolves double kill somehow but they already get doubble kill from bakers how much lore power could the hosts give em?
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it gives "how are you, other humans"
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to me
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:50
i sort of see it
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i think worth keeping an eye on at least
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:50
plus she said a lot of... nothing
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and the vibe i got from her when she spoke, it all ammounted in a scum read
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Nibelsnarf
plus she said a lot of... nothing
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:51
ill be real with u sometimes she just does that
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 00:51
oh-
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 00:51
altho
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key tip
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if you're ever in a game with luffy and all his early (d0/n1/d1) public messages are absolute air and fluff
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he's scum
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not relevant here tho
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 01:38
kal is finally discussing infw
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but i still hold my stance on reading them as scumy
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oh god
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why is kal switching up
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ok im starting to be swayed by kal
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</3
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this is no good
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@Somnacanth has ur postion changed on claiming?
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 06:05
It did
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But i don't like how kals behaving still
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But he can't be wolf here
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 11:56
Ur right
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 11:56
there are a bunch of people who cant be wolf now
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kal and light mostly
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 11:57
What happened while i was asleep
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Hello
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💔💔
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:23
U there
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:23
uh briefly
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but i do gotta get back to work
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:23
Uh oki
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Go to work
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We talk later
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:24
nono
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:24
Msg me when u free
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:24
talk now
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:24
Ok
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So
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Bass wolf
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:24
it's remote work stuff
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WHAT
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:24
Ik he plays like this all the time
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But he's trying to back me into a corner rn
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Not something even he would do with town
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He's too active for solo, this leaves unaligned and wolf
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Nibelsnarf
But he's trying to back me into a corner rn
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:25
say more
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:30
Ok sorry
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So he msgs me and says "if you can make a play, nows the time, there is a power vacuum." Which is 1. A false statement, and 2. A weird thing to say
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But it's bass
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So i simply reply with "what play do YOU think I can make?"
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:32
he straight up just asked me to claim to him lol
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:32
And further tells me that a public claim, fake or real, or the showing of my power, is the correct play, unless i am a role that has to make it to end game.
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Somnacanth
he straight up just asked me to claim to him lol
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:32
He asked that from me yesterday
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Otherwise stating if I don't make a public play im saying I'm a valuable asset
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:32
thats weird af
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Nibelsnarf
Otherwise stating if I don't make a public play im saying I'm a valuable asset
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:33
This isn't what he said, this is me restating what he said in my interpretation of it
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:33
i think hes pr hunting
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:36
100% but it's in a way that he doesnt when he's town, from the games I've played
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It's reading 100% as ua
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:36
its highkey weird
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:36
May I
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Copy paste smt he said
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:36
yes
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:37
You’re gonna have to make a move soon sooner or later otherwise you’re gonna get exposed as scum
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...
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He thinks IM scum
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Sigh
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💔
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:37
okay yea thats crazy
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:37
I jst told him no one would trust the ua's word, it's better for him to think im scum rn
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If he's scum as well it'll make him want to work with me
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Ok
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Why is Kal town here
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Somnacanth
kal and light mostly
Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:40
?
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And what did pulp say/do
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Nibelsnarf
Why is Kal town here
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:40
as wolf he wouldnt have made sure people claimed
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:40
He also would have killed me
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Nibelsnarf
And what did pulp say/do
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:40
pulp accidentally provided evidence that there was no infw, wouldnt have done so as wolf
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:40
Yeah
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Ok
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Make sense
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So it's looking like me, u, kal, pulp are town then
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Or do I not read as town
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:41
im annoyed at kal for making me defend myself but im p sure hes town
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:41
It's fine if i don't read at town
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As*
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Nibelsnarf
Or do I not read as town
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:41
i dont see why you would do this as wolf necessarily
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if it was later in the game i would be a bit more suspicious of u
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i lean you town but obviously not 100% on it
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:42
Uhm
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Bass jst said
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He's gonna assassin kill me if I don't claim
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😭😭😭
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Lmao
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:42
LMAO
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thats funny as hell
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:42
No but fr what is he thinking, im obvi not falling for that
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:44
i dont know
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:53
He's pushing for this assassin stance HARD
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I claimed journo to him btw
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Jst to get him to stfu
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😢
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He's going to go onto ocean now, I'm going to refrain from helping her as i still read her as scum
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:55
LMAO
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Nibelsnarf
He's pushing for this assassin stance HARD
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:55
he claimed a TM to me d0
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:55
I'm crine
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This is the scummyist scummy thing ever
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But doesn't he usually like give up when he's wolf
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I think I read someone say that a few games ago
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:56
he used to but not recently
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he changed his playstyle
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 12:57
Oki oki
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 13:02
yeah hes just infogathering
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he just softclaimed pyro who wants to help town to me which is obviously not a real claim
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 13:04
Obvi, Pyro doesn't help town here
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Nibelsnarf 8-5-2026 13:18
Isn't krem supposed to add EVERYONE to the cc
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Why did he only add 4 ppl
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🥹
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I mean i feel special ig
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 13:18
LMAO??
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