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@Odogaron has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Somnacanth @Odogaron
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Hey jay
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 14:56
hewwo
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Somnacanth
hewwo
Why does everyone have the theres 3 pyros brainworm when 2x pyro 1x www/devil makes much more sense
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Odogaron
Why does everyone have the theres 3 pyros brainworm when 2x pyro 1x www/devil makes much more sense
Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:20
1x devil is probs too weak and 1x www doesnt make sense in the wolf/town ratio that said i wouldnt put it past hosts to have a www in here and just have made some interesting balance choices
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2x pyro is op, 1x pyro 1x wisp is about right
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Somnacanth
1x devil is probs too weak and 1x www doesnt make sense in the wolf/town ratio that said i wouldnt put it past hosts to have a www in here and just have made some interesting balance choices
You are underestimating 1x devil
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Heavily
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:23
kal
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I can 100% see it synergize with pyros in the sense it can survive the beeg burn
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:23
how are u going to tell me im underestimating a role. ME. im the ultimate role knower
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devil is mechanically very strong
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and socially extremely weak
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Somnacanth
how are u going to tell me im underestimating a role. ME. im the ultimate role knower
The ultimate role knower
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:25
like. on the surface solo devil is totally fine in lists of this size (20 to 24p), but i would tend against putting it in just because it feels more like a role that's there to make things interesting than one that can win, simply bc town players hate using wagers and devil players often misplay and boost wolves too heavily
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Somnacanth
and socially extremely weak
Idk what this means but It can bend a game on it's knee if it gets a bit luvky
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:25
then again, of course i did not make this list
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Somnacanth
like. on the surface solo devil is totally fine in lists of this size (20 to 24p), but i would tend against putting it in just because it feels more like a role that's there to make things interesting than one that can win, simply bc town players hate using wagers and devil players often misplay and boost wolves too heavily
omg just like pb last game...
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But yeah i see
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Odogaron
Idk what this means but It can bend a game on it's knee if it gets a bit luvky
Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:26
with devil we have noticed a longterm problem of (especially town) refusing to use it on principle because of the potential for snowballing
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in a highly informed, highly aware game full of good players, devil would probably work totally fine
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but such a game does not exist
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i wouldn't be shocked if i saw it in the list, but i just think wisp is so much more likely
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But 3x pyros is crazy strong 😭
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I personally think devil/www as weird as they sound are more likely than that
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Somnacanth
with devil we have noticed a longterm problem of (especially town) refusing to use it on principle because of the potential for snowballing
Yeah true this
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Odogaron
But 3x pyros is crazy strong 😭
Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:31
wisp is not strong
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so i think it's feasible
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but ts is slowly convincing me of infw+www
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Infecting wolf is a bit
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Sob
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:31
all im saying is
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and this is me confirming im not wolf to u
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if infw hits me n1 i will kms
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valid feeling
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:32
i got meta-infected once by infw and its ruined the role for me ever since
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bc i was fucking PSYCHOPATH, a role i've never played
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and i was so excited
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lamaoaoa
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:32
and instead i got launched into an inactive pack full of new players
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Somnacanth
and instead i got launched into an inactive pack full of new players
So
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They literally went
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Braincell shopping!
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🎉
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:33
also this was many seasons ago
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but one time i saw ethan get meta-infected bc they figured "ethan is the smartest player and will have figured out infw exists"
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and ethan was FT
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and it screwed the game
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Somnacanth
and ethan was FT
LMFAO
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:34
a lot of the meta rules were written with specific scenarios in mind
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Yeah I can see it
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:34
bc a lot of hosts just dont check for meta, and it's become a lot harder to with automated actions
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speaking of which
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Im like having mild migraine
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Somnacanth
bc a lot of hosts just dont check for meta, and it's become a lot harder to with automated actions
Y not just maek n1 stuff require like a description of why
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Odogaron
Y not just maek n1 stuff require like a description of why
Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:35
we do
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N1 usually has least informed stuff so 💥
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:35
but bc people can just pop in an action through the bot
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there's no longer a way to prevent people from doing actions without justification
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like there was without automation
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Oooooh
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But input field inside the action picker
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🔥
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:36
you can technically undo some actions through a mildly complicated bot process (removing an attribute, redoing a phase trigger)
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but not invests
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and not infw infections
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Tru
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Im processing this
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:37
it's kind of crazy how much insight u get into games just through being a gm
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there's all this random info i know that other players don't
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Infw would be the any
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Ight
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Somnacanth 7-5-2026 15:38
fortunately most of it is useless
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Somnacanth
there's all this random info i know that other players don't
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:03
okay
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swurtle confirmed to me she has a successor so we can wait for that
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but b4 that what are your thoughts on the game
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im very confident you're not pack wolf which is interesting bc d0 i actually did think u might be pack based on someone else's info on u
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Yeah im pack wolf
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:08
the town trusted creating pack wolf
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excited for this new meta
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If im not im tanner
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If im not either im good probably
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Somnacanth
im very confident you're not pack wolf which is interesting bc d0 i actually did think u might be pack based on someone else's info on u
Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:09
actually i may as well say this: lynn cc'd me d0 to exchange scum reads (i had one, she had three). one of hers was you bc she said you seemed really overconfident infw wasnt ingame. i couldnt verify this from public messages but she said it was a mix of public/private iirc
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so on the basis of that i thought u were pack wolf
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actually i may as well say this: lynn cc'd me d0 to exchange scum reads (i had one, she had three). one of hers was you bc she said you seemed really overconfident infw wasnt ingame. i couldnt verify this from public messages but she said it was a mix of public/private iirc
Oh yea
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Nice nono understand how 2x howls + infw is turbobusted
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So idrc for that read im tbbh
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:12
this was pre-howl
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o
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:12
it was like late afternoon d0
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Interesting actually
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:13
lynn had a couple other interesting reads
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I was oretty wary of infw existing until the 2x howls
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:13
one which i agreed with her on and want to know ur thoughts
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Whar is
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:13
ts
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i thought the way he immediately said "don't claim to bakers" was interesting -- not because he was wrong, in fact i fully agreed with him, but bc it didn't feel ts-y
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usually he's one of those people who goes "this event has happened, what's some weird thing we can do to get around it, let's theorise out loud" and i didnt see him do that
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and i wanna know what u think abt him
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I understood what he meant instantly
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He might just be scum
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im tbh we were really telepathic wavelength unless he was maliciously not stating things
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 12:17
yea again i think it was the right call
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i just dont think it felt like his normal behaviour
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but i wasnt online at the time
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Somnacanth
i just dont think it felt like his normal behaviour
Hummmmmmmm
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Shrug
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 14:51
okay i have official krem approval to share a specific read with you
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@Odogaron are u ready for this major sick read
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Yess
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Windows suspension mode i guess
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 14:58
BASSCY - who is he, what does he do? the tale of basscy is long and strange. legends tell that on day 0, he randomly claimed a specific TM role to me, which seemed believable and led to me townreading him. however, on one stormy day 1, basscy's mood began to change. he came to his longtime (one day) friend (cc sharer) jay, and said to them, "you must tell me your claim, if you are trying to bait i will help you bait". and when jay said no a first time, he said to them "you must tell me your claim, i will help your team if so", and said strange things about kills that had the aura of a pyromancer. and when jay said no a second time, he said to them, "im not pyromancer im something better". and then jay stopped responding. and at the same time, basscy went to lynn nicetry, and said to them "you should public claim right now to gain influence". and when lynn said no a first time, he said to them, "if you don't public claim you're a wolf". and when lynn said no a second time, he said to them, "i am assassin and i will kill you if you don't claim to me". and when lynn said no a third time, he left and started bothering ocean apparently. and the great seers of our time looked at basscy and said, he kind of looks like he's a wolf who's pr-hunting but pretending to be a town who's wolf-hunting.
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@Odogaron
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this took me ages
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Cocacola
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 15:02
:|
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Somnacanth
BASSCY - who is he, what does he do? the tale of basscy is long and strange. legends tell that on day 0, he randomly claimed a specific TM role to me, which seemed believable and led to me townreading him. however, on one stormy day 1, basscy's mood began to change. he came to his longtime (one day) friend (cc sharer) jay, and said to them, "you must tell me your claim, if you are trying to bait i will help you bait". and when jay said no a first time, he said to them "you must tell me your claim, i will help your team if so", and said strange things about kills that had the aura of a pyromancer. and when jay said no a second time, he said to them, "im not pyromancer im something better". and then jay stopped responding. and at the same time, basscy went to lynn nicetry, and said to them "you should public claim right now to gain influence". and when lynn said no a first time, he said to them, "if you don't public claim you're a wolf". and when lynn said no a second time, he said to them, "i am assassin and i will kill you if you don't claim to me". and when lynn said no a third time, he left and started bothering ocean apparently. and the great seers of our time looked at basscy and said, he kind of looks like he's a wolf who's pr-hunting but pretending to be a town who's wolf-hunting.
I actually fully believe this he did something similar last game 🥀
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 15:03
soul trapper
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He actually did something pretty similar this time around LMAO
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Somnacanth
soul trapper
byeee
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 15:05
when i said "you're crazy for trying to make me claim" he said:
Do you realize who you ask that to? Prioritize me over the TT
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which is just so funny
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Actually based
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Im soooo tbh i think hes ua
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 15:09
hm why
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Tjis gives ua
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Its so ua givance
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 15:13
sobs
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@Somnacanth hello! May I insterest you in voting me for mayor?
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Somnacanth 8-5-2026 16:16
im going to wait to see what krem says
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im not morally opposed by any stretch
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sob
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:09
Pls stop fucking pinging kal im actually so tired of it
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I voted before ts reporter was "agreed" upon and i am running on very little sleep and have been majorly ill most of the day
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"Vote properly"
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Somnacanth
I voted before ts reporter was "agreed" upon and i am running on very little sleep and have been majorly ill most of the day
Oh
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Ight
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Get well soon
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What are you
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Role
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?
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:13
Let me backread first i just added jordan to my main claim cc
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Ok backread was minimal and I've also realised wolves know all claims anyway so no harm in sharing
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Cit
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They really like
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Culled prs Coz everyone i ask is boring I have one last trick
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That i can pull i think
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especially since light is wolf
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:28
Okay sorry for crashout im normal now
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Odogaron
Culled prs Coz everyone i ask is boring I have one last trick
Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:28
Kal singlehanded save
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?
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Maybe not
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:30
(I'm exhausted bc i was really ill last night but had to get up at 6.30 sorry)
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Maybe yes
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Theres hope
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:30
This is the only exciting moment all game
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Rlly depends ont he claims im gathering
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:32
Do we know literally anything about solo/ua
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Mno
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:33
..,,yay
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The only people who would know is
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Well
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Wolves
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 17:33
Yayyy
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Somnacanth 10-5-2026 18:03
@Odogaron puzzle and light still in that cc, intentional?
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Figure it's a bluff?
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