Werewolves Revamped - flute-charmer

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🕵 Os15a Secret Channels / flute-charmer

Flute Charmer [Solo Investigative - Flute Team]

Basics

The Flute Charmer is a flute player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they have the ability to charm one player each day, learning their role and disguising them as flute player. The Flute Charmer becomes a flute player if no other flute team roles remain.

Details

During the day, the Flute Charmer may charm a player, the charmed player is not informed about this. This action is immediate. Successfully charming a player will tell the Flute Charmer their targets role, and weakly disguise them as flute player afterwards. This result is affected by all disguises and redirections. This effect (including the disguise) will disappear once no members of the flute player channel or team remain. The players are not told when the effect disappears. When a player is both charmed and enchanted, the charmed status and disguise is removed. The Flute Charmer can target themself or other members of the flute team. If no other flute team roles remain, the Flute Charmer turns into a flute player and loses their current powers.

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Joining succeeded!

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@Participant

Ability Prompt

CategoryInvestigative

Which player would you like to charm? Please submit your choice as a reply to this message.

send me to kals venue @Event Host

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18:43

I love bricks to the face

18:44

Also, does swurtle have a mentor?

Mentors | Total: 3

- shapechange (@Nitobe) for jaythejummer (@Jay)

- chimi.loves.shrimp (@Saori Shibuki) for hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki)

- kruthers (@Kaito Kameyama) for moose_flamingo (@Urumi Akamaki) (edited)

Hatter

Also, does swurtle have a mentor?

❌

Okay. So… time for some babysitting I guess.

Alive Players | Total: 17

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuzuha Usagi)

- jeand.arch (@Kodai Tatta)

- jaythejummer (@Jay)

- hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Hinako Daimon)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Benzo Yashige)

- lightpulp (@Suntaro Chishiya)

- moose_flamingo (@Urumi Akamaki)

- ddd8000 (@Ginji Kyuma)

- murrfiish (@Hikari Kuina)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Ryohei Arisu)

- sinisfuel (@Takatora Samura)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Hatter)

- theoceancookie (@Rizuna Ann)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Daikichi Karube)

- neoimperium (@Morizono Aguni)

- mister.turtle (@Asuma Takashi) (edited)

18:56

Syntax error. Unknown command spam!

18:56

✅ Created #🤖-living-room!

@King of Diamonds 10 utc is 5 for you correct? Need to realign my utc clock

19:42

10pm -> 5pm for you

Yes

Or is it 6pm?

19:43

Okay

So 2 for you

So 2pm/am for me

19:43

Yeah

Is that okay

lol, and if I say no?

19:43

Change the phasechange time?

19:43

(It’s fine)

You a fan of the nickname?

I like midday phase changes

19:44

I love my name! Thank you!

19:44

I am mad too. So fits

19:45

I hope the hat is covered in mercury

19:45

Gang, this is gonna be a tough game.

19:45

Has flute ever won?

Yup

Or like, what’s the last time flute won?

19:46

Or maybe, what’s their record. Like, 10/2 or wtv

19:46

That might be a Ts question.

Probably 25% winrate

19:46

Ask ts

19:47

Actually that could hint your role

19:47

Ask later

Right, he’s not in here

19:47

Is he a sub?

Yea

19:47

But just for the event I think

I see

I dont think hes a real sub

He’s in the flute team channel I think

That's probably his alt

19:48

Which is the server owner

Oh, yeah

19:48

Evil ts

19:49

Either way. No way I’m winning this game

19:49

My optimism is at like 2/10

19:49

Luffy

19:50

Does this make sense?

19:50

Charm myself so I don’t look like the flute charmer

Its allowed

19:50

It disguises yourself as flute player

It’s allowed. But is that stupid?

I dont think i can answer that while you're alive

Hmm

19:51

I think it might be the best move atm.

19:51

Since I would have to roll for charming

19:51

Cuz of avoiding meta targeting.

19:52

I mean, random could be fine, but…. I feel there’s more utility in changing my perceived role

19:52

Cuz like, if I get checked, I don’t have a disguise. So they would just see I’m flute, and rip

19:53

Alr, maybe better thing to think about is; who is all investigative

19:53

Cf and ft

19:54

Hmm

Alive Players | Total: 17

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuzuha Usagi)

- jeand.arch (@Kodai Tatta)

- jaythejummer (@Jay)

- hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Hinako Daimon)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Benzo Yashige)

- lightpulp (@Suntaro Chishiya)

- moose_flamingo (@Urumi Akamaki)

- ddd8000 (@Ginji Kyuma)

- murrfiish (@Hikari Kuina)

️ - phantomtomicbomb (@Ryohei Arisu)

- sinisfuel (@Takatora Samura)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Hatter)

- theoceancookie (@Rizuna Ann)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Daikichi Karube)

- neoimperium (@Morizono Aguni)

- mister.turtle (@Asuma Takashi) (edited)

@King of Diamonds It says they get to charm 1x10 players rounded. Does 17 become 20?

19:56

Or no

19:57

Like, does swurtle get to charm 2 ppl?

Hatter

@King of Diamonds It says they get to charm 1x10 players rounded. Does 17 become 20?

Yes it's 2

19:58

Rounded to the nearest 10

Kk

19:59

I need to tell her to not talk in the flute channel

19:59

She’s so easy to read

Also keep in mind your action is at day not night

Yeah, I misspoke

20:03

Is fine

20:03

Man, I wish flutes had more protection

20:03

They are close to citizen power level.

20:04

They mess with checks. Thats it.

20:04

And the more people they add to the flute channel, e easier it is to find them

20:05

Would be nice if there was some sort of vote manipulation. Like… if charmed, votes for flute player are nullified? Idfk. Feel like an uphill battle though

Werewolves Bot B

@Participant

Huckhuck55

Hatter

Huckhuck55

(edited)

You submitted:

️ Hatter (👁)․ Ability executed.

Man, I really don’t know if this is a stupid idea or not

20:14

Seems like it makes sense. But also loses us ground on the burying of town in flute charmers

20:15

I worry about swurtle slipping up though somehow. So I feel like I need to position myself early

20:15

Also need to think of a fake claim.

20:15

Hmm

20:16

@King of Diamonds Could you maybe help me with something?

20:17

Just wondering how farmer has played in the past. Like… did they come fodder in order to take out scum? Aka. Did they get killed by town or other as a sacrifice?

20:18

I guess that wouldn’t make sense. Since the role they target becomes a farmer variety of scum. So… might not be useful as a sacrifice.

20:18

Lose a town and change a scum role. Leads to down 1 town.

20:18

But that said, they are a safer lynch than a stronger role

Farmer can get rid of roles like wolf cub, but can hurt town too if used wrong

Hmm

20:19

I’m wondering mainly if I claim farmer, if town would wanna sacrifice me to deal with something else. (You don’t have to comment on that)

20:20

I think I’m just puzzled on how they play in game

20:20

But. I feel like killing a town as town, no matter what, is bad.

20:21

But if there are many ctcs in the farmer cat. Then its better than hitting a power role ctc

20:21

Hmm

Gang. Flute buff when?

20:55

I think I’ll make a suggestion post after this game. Regardless of how good or bad we do.

1 Sadness 2 Joy 3 Fear 4 Joy 5 Pride 6 Anger

22:12

@Hatter

Yup

What did I get from bass? @Jack of Hearts

Hatter

What did I get from bass? @Jack of Hearts

You do not know.

Ah, what the fuck

22:46

Gerrrr

22:46

Well this has gone tits up already

22:46

Does it say in the rules you don’t know what you get?

22:46

I completely missed that if it does

22:47

Do we get a summary at phase end?

22:50

1 Sadness 2 Joy 3 Fear -> anger 4 Joy -> anger 5 Pride -> anger 6 Anger (edited)

Hatter

Do we get a summary at phase end?

The only information you will get is of your new balance!

22:56

And your new set of souls!

Investigated @Hatter's role: Flute Charmer

23:00

Applying succeeded!

God I’m scared of swurtle having control of whispers.

01:11

Who rolled this script?!

You have hit the CC limit of 0 CCs!

Dammit! I thought it was end of everyday

01:14

Sobbing

Syntax error. Invalid Player: pigeon!

01:26

✅ Created #dumb!

Hmm. Maybe it’s just better to eventually throw swurtle under the bus?

01:34

We’ll see where her yapping gets us

01:34

But she’s already led phan into thinking it’s not a newbie.

01:34

And imo, the yeen and zucchini thing reeks of swurtle

Phan number - 3

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02:18

▶️ Selected @Kodai Tatta (

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Do I tell swurtle im talking to phan in cc?

02:52

farmered D0- arch N1- no change (edited)

02:53

@Host Does farmer get the bot prompt every phase including d0?

Yes

Kk

@Participant

Ability Prompt

CategoryInvestigative

Which player would you like to charm? Please submit your choice as a reply to this message.

omg swurtle.....

21:28

facepalm

Werewolves Bot B

@Participant

Hatter

(edited)

You submitted:

Rizuna Ann (Ocean)․ Ability executed.

;scarcrow

❗ Could not find role scarcrow. Did you mean scarecrow?

man, farmer is such a bastard

Investigated @Rizuna Ann's role: Farming Wolf

22:45

Applying succeeded!

@Host who acts first, lynch -> farmer or my charming?

22:47

im assuming lynch farmer

22:47

cuz thats end of phase, and charming.... wait

22:47

no

22:47

i delayed action

22:47

so yeah

22:47

whats first

22:48

my delay or lynch?

Werewolves Bot B

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Its actually saboteur wolf @Hatter . The bot was wrong

sus

22:49

so alex is now farming wolf

22:49

got it

22:49

oops

22:49

cookie**

22:50

arch farmer -> cookie sab wolf -> farming wolf

22:55

oh wait

22:55

im stupid

22:55

so stupid

22:55

lynch hasnt even happened yet

22:55

why was delay so early?

22:56

how would the bot be that wrong?

22:56

hmm

22:56

@Host the farmer doesnt have like.... any kinds of disguises or anything right?

No

The bot was wrong dont try to think of why

....

22:57

there must be a reason

22:57

arch is currently targetting cookie

22:57

imma meta this into the ground

22:57

but, i wont be telling swurtle any of this since that will only confuse her

22:58

so this is just my own thoughts now

@Hatter do you need me to send a warning to be less annoying

huh?

01:10

what are you talking about?

King of Diamonds

@Hatter do you need me to send a warning to be less annoying

am i being annoying somehow?

01:11

im so confused

To phantom

01:11

On your behalf

oh

01:11

no

01:11

im not annoyed at all

01:11

im fighting an uphill battle here

Is that lees confusing

phantoms not being annoying at all

01:12

its our banter

@Participant

Ability Prompt

CategoryInvestigative

Which player would you like to charm? Please submit your choice as a reply to this message.

You have hit the CC limit of 2 CCs!

Werewolves Bot B

@Participant

Hatter

(edited)

You submitted:

Hikari Kuina (Fishy)․ Ability executed.

20:00

Investigated @Hikari Kuina's role: Apothecary

20:00

Applying succeeded!

Alive Players | Total: 14

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuzuha Usagi)

- hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Hinako Daimon)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Benzo Yashige)

- lightpulp (@Suntaro Chishiya)

- ddd8000 (@Ginji Kyuma)

- murrfiish (@Hikari Kuina)

- sinisfuel (@Takatora Samura)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Hatter)

- theoceancookie (@Rizuna Ann)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Daikichi Karube)

- neoimperium (@Morizono Aguni)

- mister.turtle (@Asuma Takashi)

- kruthers (@Kaito Kameyama) (edited)

man, this negotiation with alex is like trying to bargain with a brick wall

21:20

falling brick

21:20

wall

21:20

so cooked

Hatter

man, this negotiation with alex is like trying to bargain with a brick wall

### A Falling Brick reference

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21:21

What do you think of the Jack of Hearts venue so far Huck.

for you my love

21:21

its good, i just wish i understood it sooner lol

21:21

a lot of little things that i didnt comprehend right away

21:22

like, the thread creation would have served a lot better if i thought of that earlier

21:22

we'll see how round 2 goes though, maybe we can recover. but i doubt it

21:22

prolly cooked

Hatter

like, the thread creation would have served a lot better if i thought of that earlier

I think I took every opportunity I could to remind people that threads existed.

yup yup

Kek.

and i ignored lol

1

21:23

oh well

21:23

but also, didnt think of the utility until much later

21:23

should have taken more time to formulate a strategy

21:24

thought an honest early game followed by a dishonest second half would be the ticket to fame and fortune

21:24

but

21:24

eh

21:24

maybe im just rusty on AiB games

I'm not sure why people are not realizing how harmful is letting Torments build up.

last time ive played one was that season of EiB

21:25

i think maybe afk homies are making the torment buildup happen

21:25

sunny made a pretty big dent in that addition

21:25

and also

21:25

these bozos this round just not trading

21:26

but i dont wanna hound people to do trades either

21:26

so

21:26

wtv

21:26

It's a negative feedback loop.

21:26

More torments = less trades = more torments = less trades...

yeah, stinky torments

21:27

and next round is gonna be such a mixed bag

Maybe I will execute a rule change.

21:27

no trade = they get a torment?

No.

why make the people that are actively engaged suffer

21:28

i know the exploits are there

21:28

but like

All Torments* will be randomized except in absolutely exceptional circumstances. (edited)

this round is dead silent

Hatter

this round is dead silent

Yeah shucks.

what are the other games?

21:29

did you make them all or did snivy and luffy make the other ones?

Hatter

what are the other games?

You will find out when you get dragged to hell or not!

Hatter

did you make them all or did snivy and luffy make the other ones?

Oh we created each game.

21:35

Sadly, snivy's had some player issues so we decided best was to replay luffy's in his venue.

poor snivy

Players were mean to him.

21:37

His venue was the coolest by a long shot.

WHAT?!? who could be mean to snivy!

21:37

thats criminal

21:37

i love you @Aliii🎀

21:38

imma fight everyone that was in your venue

They didn't like that there was only 1 winner

pfft

21:38

get gud

But all venues have 1 winner in normal circumstances

when we getting to do our art dealer game

Which game is that

its a game i made. jay has all the deets

21:40

you havent seen it

21:40

was gonna event host with krem and jay, but i think krem got busy or smt

We almost did that ant game

21:41

But reskinned

yeah, i kind of backed out of it cuz the admin of it is annoying

21:41

needed to make a shit load of equations in a sheet to have it all math for me

21:42

but maybe ill try and revamp the maths someday so its easier to run

21:42

also, kind of felt like running a game that some people have already played would be boring to some people

21:42

idk

21:42

got in my head about it

Hatter

i love you @Aliii🎀

awww hucky :( ❤️

Where’s dead chat?

01:07

Oh

01:07

Nm

01:07

Perms would prolly reveal event stuff

01:07

Nm

You are a blind ghost

But I’m an ethereal eye now

01:08

That’s unfortunate

01:08

Nothing going my way these days

chat

17:53

am i jumping the gun or could swurtle win this?!?

17:54

she should have 6 ppl tamed

17:54

can yall tell me who she enchanted last night?

17:54

since i cant see dead chats

17:54

@King of Diamonds

yeah ur a ghost

17:55

i think theres 4 unenchanted

17:55

not including her

so 2 days until a win

she has to survive 3 phases

maybe 1 if lynch and wolf kill is dumb

17:56

so if... they lynch an unenchanted person then wolves kill an unenchanted person. and swurtle enchants the last 2, we win

17:57

very unlikely and would be very stupid on town and wolves behalf

17:57

but

17:57

thats best case scenario

17:57

by tomorrow they will be hunting her super hard

17:57

so that would be the most ideal thing to happen (her win after tonight

17:58

putting all my chips on swurtle rn

17:58

this is a crazy turn of events

i thought you had so litttle faith that you wanted to bus her

17:58

just a bit ago

yes, its true lol

17:59

if only alex was swayed by my seduction

17:59

we would be sitting so pretty

17:59

that said, i prolly would have been killed in the night

17:59

eh

17:59

i dont see a world where we win still

17:59

wolves will likely kill a non enchanted tonight

17:59

which swurtle is in that pool

theres a chance

and noone is stepping forward as the predecesor

18:00

so likely wolves will take the reigns

alex forgot to set up a successor so wilves might take control

and with swurtle not being a wolf

or rather the successor was yuki

yeah, saw that

18:00

rough stuff

18:00

for town

18:00

this town layout is rough

18:01

not much to do there

town would win

18:01

if they had a tt still

is it worth suggesting that flute gets a buff. a shep like buff

18:01

vote manip

18:01

flute is dangerous only in the way that they are not dangerous lol

18:02

which isnt really a logical threat lol

18:03

like, do any current solos have vote manipulation?

18:03

i think that died with shepard

18:03

and like.... thematically, flutes controlling people to vote their way makes sense

horsemen do

18:04

horseman of war

eh, thats so minor though

18:04

only 1 role in a pool of different things

Hatter

vote manip

A vote manipulator flute would be fun.

anyways. my optamism for the win in this game is at like.... 20% rn

Jack of Hearts

A vote manipulator flute would be fun.

agreed! make them more dangerous!

18:05

not just.... oh... they are harmless. oh.... they won

18:06

even if its a new flute role. that can use the enchanted to vote their way

18:06

;flute

Hatter

flute is dangerous only in the way that they are not dangerous lol

swurtle would be actually insanely close to winning if they didn't lynch enchanted, actually.

yeah, but would be dumb for town and wolves to push that

18:07

big F on all of them

18:10

in fact, would be more dangerous for swurtle if an unenchanted person got lynched.

18:10

cuz tonight if wolves kill an enchanted

18:10

or wait

18:10

yeah

18:10

so she enchants 2 tonight.

18:11

leaves herself and 1 other unenchanted

18:11

making it a 50/50 on whos the player

18:13

who is unenchanted rn? @King of Diamonds

18:13

thats alive

18:13

obv

ill tell you whos enchanted

18:17

bass heny neo and kruthers

gurl....

18:18

making me work for it

Alive Players | Total: 9

- hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Hinako Daimon)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Benzo Yashige)

- lightpulp (@Suntaro Chishiya)

- murrfiish (@Hikari Kuina)

- sinisfuel (@Takatora Samura)

- theoceancookie (@Rizuna Ann)

- neoimperium (@Morizono Aguni)

- kruthers (@Kaito Kameyama) (edited)

unfortunately most of the people who they would suspect as flute are enchanted

not light fish sunny ocean

since ocean and sin are wolves

18:19

and wolves know fish is apothecary

King of Diamonds

since ocean and sin are wolves

oh

King of Diamonds

and wolves know fish is apothecary

oh damn

a used apoth too

18:19

so not a threat

theres still 1 poison

Pinpointed for Swurtle to be flute is rough.

King of Diamonds

unfortunately most of the people who they would suspect as flute are enchanted

even after swurtles host references?

18:20

in the whispers

shes too obvious lol

yeahhhh

luckily wolves have not acknowledged the threat of flute yet

thats the trouble with her having control of whispers lol

18:21

the only person i could picture saying what she said in whispers is sunny

18:21

and hes afk af

18:21

i did tell her on d0 to not speak in there

18:22

gave some options for gpt if she desperately wanted to yap

18:22

but she just went ahead and did her own swurtle thing instead

18:22

so

18:22

rip

18:22

what can you do

are you surprised

not in the slightest

18:25

well, lets hope she stumbles into a win somehow

18:26

who were farmers?

18:26

at the beginning

18:27

also, what happened with the bot on my check? did arch target cookie and bot gave me that feedback? or like... was that just a host error on the input of roles? (not error, but like... typo or smt)

18:28

or actually, can you just send me the role list?

Hatter

well, lets hope she stumbles into a win somehow

You are subestimating swurtle heavily.

sub

1

If she consistently "stumbles into wins", then she is consistently doing something right. Last season she got the 3rd highest ranking. Food for thought.

18:30

playing every game while others sit out kind of skews the scales a bit doesnt it?

18:31

im sure shes doing better than like.... season 9 swurtle. so nice to see shes improving

She's a sleeper agent.

true

18:35

@King of Diamonds send me the role list

18:35

i wanna see where the farmers were

Image attachment

yup, thats how i got cooked

18:36

unlucky

18:37

wait

18:38

did bass and light not protect alex or yuki yesterday?

18:38

or last night rather

light was farmer

oh

they protected fish

thats pretty silly isnt it?

18:39

unless they thought that wolves would think that alex would be protected

18:39

alex being citizen town lead is kind of wild

18:41

is ocean farmer now?

no

18:41

they never were

so just a bot error

18:41

got it

yeah it went to the wrong person when jay died

18:41

so i had to change it

right.

18:41

that sent me down a weird hole

18:42

i should have just claimed citizen

18:43

less confirmable and also, farmer may be a role worth killing to help town with a role swap? idk, i still dont fully understand how to play with farmer

18:43

its lke a bizarre thief

Hatter

is ocean farmer now?

PoV bot error meta

yup

18:50

fr

Hatter

less confirmable and also, farmer may be a role worth killing to help town with a role swap? idk, i still dont fully understand how to play with farmer

Farmer is a good town lynch.

18:50

Treat it like journalist.

not as good though

18:50

cuz like

18:50

if i was wolf

It's actually, on paper, the opposite of journalist.

i wouldnt tell ppl i was converted

Hatter

not as good though

Farmer is a lategame beast.

so info buried

It is basically half a TK in lategame.

not really

18:51

wolf swill stays wolf

Hatter

not really

Can remove wolf nightkills and abilities.

and can still vote on wolf poll

Hatter

and can still vote on wolf poll

No.

oh?

18:52

;wolf farmer

❗ Could not find role wolf farmer. Did you mean werewolf power (aka Wolf Power)?

It is much stronger lategame than everyone gives it credit for and it drives me MAD!!!

;farmer wolf

❗ Could not find role farmer wolf. Did you mean farming wolf?

oh

18:52

well

18:52

didnt read all the way to the bottom of that lol

18:53

reading is hard

18:53

farmer weird still

18:53

i dont hate the role, its just an odd one

Hatter

i dont hate the role, its just an odd one

Everyone has mixed opinions on it.

18:57

Only me and Ts see it's true power it seems.

18:57

I would potentially call it a journalist sidegrade, maybe even stronger.

idk, maybe.

19:01

flute mentor

the power to change votes of the enchanted
votes appear the same in the polls, but the votes get redirected to the mentors target
may do only once per enchanted person.

(edited)

Omg, be careful swurtle! Don’t get caught in the middle of anything.

bleh, wolves knowing that town is helpless may make flute a bigger target

19:59

that said.... have wolves found fox (sunny) yet?

Hatter

that said.... have wolves found fox (sunny) yet?

Ya

lame

20:00

yeah

D1 even (edited)

wolves gonna cook us

20:00

why did turtle ask me if im wolf?

20:00

oh

20:00

angel

1

Wolves definitely have the upper hand right now actually!

i understand

20:00

yeah, wolves likely have this in the ba

20:01

bag**

20:01

town is utterly cooked

20:01

have been since day 0 lol

The only sensible townlead is fish.

20:01

And she eepy.

yeah, shell prolly come out later

Too late.

yeah

20:01

town cooked

Town requires all town united and with all votes and she needs all claims and to rediscover all of them.

how many town left?

20:02

like

Too little time.

whats the #v#v#

Alive Players | Total: 9

- hendawy361 (@Ippei Oki) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Hinako Daimon)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Benzo Yashige)

- lightpulp (@Suntaro Chishiya)

- murrfiish (@Hikari Kuina)

- sinisfuel (@Takatora Samura)

- theoceancookie (@Rizuna Ann)

- neoimperium (@Morizono Aguni)

- kruthers (@Kaito Kameyama) (edited)

1 flute

4v4v1

20:02

Town's only chance is lynching wolf.

town could maybe eek out a win

20:02

but like

20:02

would massively be luck

20:02

i did tell alex cookie is wolf

2 poisons.

did cookie being wolf get passed on to anyone?

Hatter

i did tell alex cookie is wolf

Guess what. He kept that secret to the grave

smh

20:03

i tried to help them even

20:03

big head shake

Town had a surprisingly big chance all thibgs considered.

20:03

This list is more balanced than I predicted.

i mean....

20:03

i think...

20:04

that

20:04

town is still fairly weak

There are too many killing roles because this list was geared towards vampires at first by the way.

damn

20:04

wish i was vamp

Hatter

town is still fairly weak

Guardsman is the best claimable.

me and jay won as vamp last time i played as vamp

Phantom just guessed wrong.

20:05

Like, it's even better than huntress or ranger.

i feel like my offer to alex was pretty sound

Hatter

i feel like my offer to alex was pretty sound

It was, but Alex could NOT risk misslynching.

i guess his thought was that maybe cookie wasnt a wolf

20:06

and i was trying to throw them off

20:06

but like

20:06

even that

20:06

i would def wanna get rid of wolves cuz they are a bigger threat to us

20:07

oh well

20:07

win some you lose some

Hatter

i guess his thought was that maybe cookie wasnt a wolf

For him your truth wasn't absolute. Maybe you were going to cause a misslynch. Also he was correct on lynching you, look at enchanted numbers.

yeah.... its true. my only hope was trying to get him to see wolves as bigger threat

20:09

and yesterday our gathered numbers was not in dangerous territory yet

20:09

so atp it was a good sell me thinks

20:09

but then the flip happened hard

Hatter

flute mentor

the power to change votes of the enchanted
votes appear the same in the polls, but the votes get redirected to the mentors target
may do only once per enchanted person.

(edited)

kal does this sound like a role that would be interesting? wanna get feedback to know if its worth making it a suggestion

20:10

after the game ofc

Hatter

kal does this sound like a role that would be interesting? wanna get feedback to know if its worth making it a suggestion

I think it's good. Especially if it is only a one-off ability.

20:18

Since that redirects a lynch, and it is basically minus town killpower.

20:18

By that sense it might be very powerful too, though.

yeah, but im assuming they would have the same ability that charmer has in that; they become the player if the player dies

20:20

so it kind of encourages its use earlier?

20:20

idk, maybe that also makes it too weak

20:20

since early game there tends to be a lot of players vs enchanted being not so many

20:20

and town would know to not have the enchanted people vote if the mentor is on the script

20:20

def needs some balancing

20:22

maybe the biggest threat would be if they both live until near the end, which is a big if

Hatter

so it kind of encourages its use earlier?

I see.

20:26

That's hmm...

20:26

Daykills for scum are phenomenal.

20:27

Scum would have to be very weak.

20:27

I fear it might not work well without like, a warning or something to enchanteds.

20:27

it needs a good drawback because it's too much value.

naw, i think its only value is late game

20:30

and by then its likely that the mentor is converted to player

20:30

so

20:30

its actually weak imo

20:31

unless the vote is near tie

20:31

and an enchanted voted

20:31

alot of ifs

Hatter

naw, i think its only value is late game

if it can tie polls it is basically a sabo wolf, if it can day kill it is basically a barber, and if it can call off a lynch it is a royal knight.

20:32

Think about it that way and you'll realize that it is busted.

20:33

Or, at the very least, too unpredictable and polarizing.

i mean, true, but town would have to plan around that. like, its easily countered

20:35

just dont have the enchanted vote and also have more votes than enchanted people

20:35

its easy enough

There is no real counterplay. Town votes turn into scum votes for a day.

20:35

Vote conversion is also very strong.

20:36

Since it is worth 2 votes for each.

the biggest threat is late game when numbers swing in the flutes favour

20:36

but thats the whole point im trying to make

Hatter

just dont have the enchanted vote and also have more votes than enchanted people

They'd have to vote?

20:36

Oh...

flute wins cuz thy are harmless

Spicy, nevermind I like it.

and thats not strength

The counterplay being to not vote is clever enuff.

why have a role thats so bad that they win?

Hatter

why have a role thats so bad that they win?

I don't know the stats but I think flutes are one of the highest winrate solos.

20:37

Second I think to hell.

yeah, cuz they always get underestimated due to the town vs wolf battle. but like, the underestimation is because they dont do anything all game

20:38

lol

20:38

its not cause they are strong

20:38

they just sit around gathering people to join a room

20:38

like, idk, i think it would be fun to have them have a role that could be perceived as dangerous.

Hatter

its not cause they are strong

If it causes a team to win, it is indeed strength.

also, the fact that they cant be put in the flute room makes it pretty easy to eventually find the player

They are subestimated, just because they don't kill.

have no clue how they have a win rate at all honestly

Hatter

have no clue how they have a win rate at all honestly

I think it's just

naw, i said this before i lost

20:39

as soon as i was given flute

20:39

ive just never really analyzed them until now

Dawg.

20:40

Okay, well the suggestion is still very good though.

20:41

If the counterplay is not voting, and the ability is one use only, then it is great.

20:41

Sometimes a threat is more powerful than action, see: Guardsman.

Jack of Hearts

If the counterplay is not voting, and the ability is one use only, then it is great.

1 use per player who is enchanted**

20:42

meaning

So they can quirurgically manipulate every vote?

20:42

That might be complicated

say A B C D is enchanted the mentor can make A and B vote their way while leaving C and D alone for that vote. then next day have D and C do it.

20:44

or can use all 4 of them on 1 day

20:44

and not being able to use the ability again until there are more people enchanted

I see. Hmmmmmm...

20:44

Defo suggest this because I personally like it.

its like.... minor voting tweak, or using the masses to get a bigger voting block

20:45

i think its still balanced in that.... do you wanna use all the votes up and not have power later, or have minor votes on a day and over the course of many days.

holy shit! will they lynch a non enchanted?!?

21:04

crazy!

21:04

and maybe wolves will want light dead! cuz he takes the town lead position

21:05

crazier!!

21:05

if wolves dont realize after the lynch and enchants that they need to kill swurtle or whoever else is not enchanted, they deserve t lose

Yea wolves are saying to kill light

lmfao!

21:06

thats so damn funny

21:06

just coasting to a win maybe

21:06

my god thats so dumb

21:06

but we'll see

21:06

lots of time until then

21:06

for the love of god swurtle, do not enchant light

21:07

thought

21:07

though**

21:07

its kind of suss if she doesnt

21:07

cuz then its obviously swurtle who is the flute

21:07

if lights story is believable

21:07

or at the very least, light is a scarcrow

21:08

does scarecrow not erase solo role?

21:08

its on top of

21:08

so flute player would still live on being flute player?

21:09

hmm

21:09

i guess with the current state of the game, it is possible that light could be flute player

21:09

though i dont think its likely that light would have said the things swurtle said in the whisper room

21:10

so.... steep hill to climb still

21:10

optimism at 35%

Hatter

holy shit! will they lynch a non enchanted?!?

1

A shiver runs down your spine... For some reason, your suitcase feels heavier in your hands. -# Your soul #4 in your case was replaced by a Torment Soul @Event Participant.

23:12

Your event thread was deleted due to a critical hosting error. (it was accidentally made public to everyone).

Uhhh

23:22

Well

23:22

Shit

23:22

So

23:22

My sweet precious notes

Hatter

My sweet precious notes

There was nothing much in it..........

23:26

I hope.

True. Except for my starting souls and my coins. But I know them both

23:27

So should be fine

23:28

Wait

Ight. I should remind you of your stuffs.

So is my 4 case a torment or not?

Hatter

So is my 4 case a torment or not?

Yes.

Kk, cool

Ironically, yiur #3 case was going to be torment.

My game is either going to be epic or a giant garbage fire

I rerolled the numbers and it landed "huck #4"

We’ll see

1

I need a big move in phase 4

23:29

Already have turtle lined up for a torment with number 4

23:29

Just need to get 1 to ocean, 1 to arch. And maybe 1 to Hendy if I’m feeling naughty

23:30

Then one of them to pass one that I send to them. Maybe I can get swurtle to pass a torment last in disguise as something else.

23:30

Disaster game.

23:32

On another note. Swurtle not delaying could have just thrown the win. Riparoni.

23:32

If I’m reading everything she’s saying in there right

Round 2 Starter Suitcase [Huck]

1 Fear 2 Pride 3 Sadness 4 Sadness 5 Pride 6 Anger

23:35

@Hatter

23:35

This was your starter suitcase.

23:36

# Balance: -4 coins

Kk

23:38

I have this in notes anyways

1

23:38

So all good

What are wolves doing?

07:55

Who they killing?

@King of Diamonds Who’s not in flute chat rn?

08:02

Man, I wanna see the game play out so bad

08:03

Well

08:03

Until swurtle dies, then I won’t care lol

Dream is dead

17:04

All cuz of a non delayed action

17:04

Sobbing

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