Werewolves Revamped - herararald

Werewolves Revamped

S14g1 | CC 1 / herararald

@Lantern Checker has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Lantern Checker @Carpenter Arch

Hello! I'm Herald! N1 I checked Assassin, and the bot said nothing (meaning neither Jay nor Yuki was Assassin). D1 I checked Huntress, and the bot said nothing (meaning Kalimoor was not Huntress).

03:30

Now that it's N2, who do you want me to check?

Well the jay one was ofc

07:06

Hes huntress XD

07:06

Try innkeeper?

07:06

Delay

Makes sense, got it

✅ Added @Ghost haunting No. 50 to the CC!

Heyo!

So, heads up. During the Arch vs Kal fight (aka D1), Luffy CC'd me saying they're the other Herald. They said they also checked Assassin N1 like me, which tipped me off, on top of him being unusually early to trust me.

I know about Luffy already from arch

Seeing Swurtle's CC I'm convinced Swurtle is the real other Herald

^

Ohhh, nice nice

I agree

It's up to you if you want to add me to TT or not, but you're definitely dying tonight since you can't be an undead Reporter

Welp, I'll have enough time to have made tt by then

I might as well say as well, no Innkeeper died tonight

Mm that's good

I double checked with hosts in case PKR was it

11:21

But no

11:22

I am worried that PKR might be Assassin though

11:22

In that case there wouldn't be anyone to claim to confirm it because there's no person alive in the CC for it

Yeah that makes sense

11:24

I wanna scout for chef then if they're still alive

I got kicked out too lol

Yeah it happens

I'm thinking now that we shouldn't chat mainly in the cc with swurtle

12:08

It's not really wise to be revealing all that stuff when we know that she is capable of leaking info

12:09

I wanted to ask about what you thought of coal

Coal hasn't been too helpful in discussions to be honest, so I'm wary of coal too

12:10

But it's not enough to sus them

12:10

I don't even know what coal's role claim is after all

12:11

That's something only you get to know

12:11

12:11

For now though, what I want to ask is, what do you want us Heralds to check for? And I suggest doing two different roles this time rather than one, since we're basically confirmed

Considering that I'm getting reporter tonight, there's not that many roles that herald will be useful for this phase

12:14

It's moreso for you guys in case I get turned into an undead

12:14

But by then, I will definitely have given the reporter info and claims to someone

You could use it to confirm us

12:16

Because I'm honestly still not 100% sure Swurtle isn't Undead now

Herald isn't useful that way though

12:19

You guys are only informed when the last person with a role dies

12:20

That doesn't apply to undead

No, for this lynch

Oh right

Sorry, let me make my thoughts a full sentence

Fair

12:20

I get what you're saying now

Ask us to check the current lynches for specific roles. You have Reporter to confirm it. If one of us gets it right, you can confirm we still have Herald power and thus aren't Undead. You need at least one other person to share Reporter info with, or else all of it will be gone as soon as you die

Definitely

I hope Assassin is indeed still alive though

12:24

And can show the CC with Arch

12:24

That way we can confirm whether or not Dansan was a wolf kill or an Assassin one

12:24

Alright, that's all from me so far

12:24

Sorry for taking your time

12:24

I'll go cook dinner

You're all good! Thank you for all the pointers ^w^

12:28

Hope you have a nice dinner

@Ghost haunting No. 50

Luff cause of overlapping claims and reads off of their responses in town square

I mean, when you say it like that it's not very convincing lol

.,.

15:16

Oops

I wanted to wait for luffy but I can do the reason?

Yeah of course

I did get directly contacted by them after all

Yeah

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Do you mind if I open this CC to all?

I’ll be honest I don’t think that’s the greatest idea cause it half crosses the border on what I don’t want everyone to know

What about just luffy?

17:35

@Ghost haunting No. 50

To your counterclaim??

17:36

Do you trust him over Swurtle

17:37

I’d say that if you want to compare timestamps, just talking about it should be enough

Ghost haunting No. 50

Do you trust him over Swurtle

Kind of, yeah.

17:38

I know I'm Herald, so it's just about which of the two is the real other Herald now.

17:39

I don't think there's even any important info in here anyway?

Alright then

It should be fine

It’s just speculation definitely

✅ Added @Retired Captain to the CC!

.,.

Lantern Checker

Hello! I'm Herald! N1 I checked Assassin, and the bot said nothing (meaning neither Jay nor Yuki was Assassin). D1 I checked Huntress, and the bot said nothing (meaning Kalimoor was not Huntress).

Here @Retired Captain

So why are you confirmed anyways?

Did you confirm the timestamps? We can continue our convo in town square

17:41

For transparency

This whole convi seems to be under the pretext of you being confirmed (edited)

17:41

Even though arch told me you were the least trustworthy

17:42

Is this the case of the most active person being trusted by virtue of being active

If that was the case then the natural conclusion is that both of us are real Herald and it's Swurtle who's the sus one

Well it happened while I was sleeping

17:43

So I was less active there

Can I confirm you checked the timestamps and believe what I'm saying about arch being the one who's delayed? @Retired Captain

17:44

As soon as you do, I'm going to kick you out the CC so we can use it as normal again

Yes I confirm

✅ Removed @Retired Captain from the CC!

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Do you know who Assassin is now

18:13

Or rather, do you have the claims list from arch already

18:13

We're discussing about Dansan

Not that many people have claimed

18:42

No one’s claimed assassin

Can you add me to your cc with arch?

18:44

I'm trying to dig for more info because we're currently in the complete dark

@Ghost haunting No. 50 UPDATE UPDATE

23:12

LAST MARKED PLAYER DIED

Oh

23:12

It did??

Vampire

23:13

Yeah, bot sent it to me it too late

23:14

It must have been sinisfuel due to the timing

23:14

Due to the manual thing

Damn

23:16

In any case that's good for us

Luffy said I was confirmed scum due to that

23:17

Sadly this is the one time I cannot show you timestamps to prove what I'm saying

23:17

Because it happened in my SC, which shows the time delay for bot

But I'd assume that a host would have had to come and tell you?

No host

23:18

Since the bot worked fine, just delayed

23:19

Oh it was in fact even perfectly coinciding Jordan's message in #story-time

23:19

Bot's announcement was 5:02 for me

Right

It sucks that all my credibility is gone just because of this mishap

Do you mind me asking how much you have been chatting with Luffy?

23:24

Cause uhhhhh

How do I measure it

23:24

I have a CC with him

Topics you guys have been talking about I guess

I brought up the possibility of you being Alpha Wolf faking DV Then luffy said anyone can easily fake claim DV as long as they don't die Then luffy brings up dansan's death and possibilities of how they died, such as someone targeting him due to a lucky warlock and stuff Then some options on who to herald check

Right

23:27

I was just being super silly right now

23:28

I admit my actions were super wack

23:28

And I'm being called out QwQ

I'm being called out too...

But I'm just super bad at social deduction

Signed Up Players | Total: 19 yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Neighborhood Furry) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Pokemon Card Collector)

‍

️ - pixelpirate0050 (@Professional Gamer)

- lightpulp (@Lantern Checker)

- sharleclaire (@The Street's Astronomer)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Ghost haunting No. 50)

- theoceancookie (@Baking Grandma)

- dansan (@Dancing Teacher) ✨ - pkr1928 (@The guy from No. 28)

- captainluffy (@Retired Captain)

- mkayfme (@Average Dude)

‍⬛ - basscy (@"Greatest Yard" Winner)

- jeand.arch (@Carpenter Arch)

- shapechange (@Lizard on the Street)

- char._.coal (@Local Coalminer)

- time9 (@Timely Inspector)

- voidmist (@Mr. Misty Front Yard)

- yuki_not_cutie (@Cute Neighbor)

️ - sinisfuel (@Hotheaded Neighbor) (edited)

I don't think wolves are working with vamp

23:28

Swurtle is a herald

...

So we're gonna have to lynch luffy tomorrow

Yep.

I'll get you the updated claims list

23:29

Or just list in general

Sure

Hey

23:32

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk | Total: 11 Assassin - ~~dan~~ Medium -

time Innkeeper - ~~yuki~~ 2x Herald - ~~swurtle~~ -

light 2x Huntress - ~~jay~~ - ~~arch~~ 2x Devout Villager -

gh0st - coal - ‍⬛ - bass 2x Citizen - ‍️ pixelpirate - sharl - ocean - mkay [One of the fakes is undead, another is wolf] Werewolves | Total: 5 Howling Wolf Warlock - [

luffy] Unsure of whether they are warlock but they seem to have some source of info to fake herald Alpha Wolf - ~~✨ pkr~~ Saboteur Wolf - ~~kal~~ Wolf Solo | Total: 2 Vampire - ~~️ sin~~ Undead Unaligned | Total: 1 Chef - ~~voidmist~~ Unaccounted for | Total: 0 (edited)

1

Wow, that's a lot of info now

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 19-6-2025 23:34

Dansan did just get targetted

Yuki was INNKEEPER?!

That sucks

23:34

Yeah

23:34

Otherwise we would've gotten claims

I thought we were winning but this actually is very bad huh

I actually need to have more confidence in my calls cause I genuinely though people weren't claiming cause I was doing a terrible job

23:35

Yeah

23:35

We're working off of lynches right now

Let me rearrange the text a bit

We still have medium to figure this out

23:38

They haven't asked the question yet so we get to find out info tomorrow night

23:39

By then, I'll likely have turned to undead though

23:39

Vampire has demonised 3 people

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk | Total: 6/11 Devout Villager - Gh0st Devout Villager - Coal or Bass Citizen - Pixelpirate Citizen - Innkeeper - Yuki Assassin - Dansan Herald - Light Herald - Swurtle Huntress - Jay Huntress - Arch Medium - Time Werewolves | Total: 3/5 Howling Wolf Wolf Alpha Wolf - PKR Saboteur Wolf - Kal Warlock - Luffy (?) Solo | Total: 1/2 Vampire - Sin Undead Unaligned | Total: 0/1 Chef - Voidmist Unaccounted | Total: 3 Sharle Ocean Mkay (edited)

Ghost haunting No. 50

By then, I'll likely have turned to undead though

....? Why would you turn undead?

Would wolves not want to kill one out of the two of us?

23:41

We're both public claims

I mean, you're Devout Villager

Oh I'm still a dumbass

Your entire thing is not turning undead

I need a mentor

23:42

Wolves would want to work with vampire then?

23:42

Or rather undead

Why? There's no benefit to wolves to kill demonized, and they don't know who are demonized since vamp died

Uhhhh let me give this more thought

I wish we knew who Dansan attacked if any

23:45

Because if they did then there's two undead right now

That's only two undead at most

Alright, for now I'm faking to luffy that you still don't trust me

I was super confused as to why misty lost

23:50

Yeah 100%

23:50

I was gonna do that

23:51

All waiters are dead

This makes it likely they won't kill you

23:51

Because they want me to keep sussing you

Yeah

23:52

In terms of medium, there's more town dead right now than scum

23:52

We're bound to get a correct answer

That certainly does fit

23:52

Did medium say what they wrote as question and what answers

23:52

There's gotta be two at this point

Time asked if Kal was town last night and got an answer tonight that they weren't town

23:53

The first night they missed their action

LOL

It fits though

Sure, but it's not really conclusive since we might still get a counterclaim

I mean by then we already knew that kal wasn't town but the question was sent before time ccd me

23:54

I kinda doubt someone's gonna counterclaim medium

23:54

But yeah

23:54

I need claims from 3 more people

23:54

I'm gonna ping like luffy last game

What three people, the howling wolf, the wolf, and the undead?

23:54

LOL

Lmaooooo

23:55

There's still a cit in there and we might get clarification on dv

23:56

Damn I would really like another cc to actually talk with coal

23:56

The other one has luffy in it

What about kfc

Is that really a good place to ask

No

I'll add you back there as well

I meant that you could move luffy there

23:57

In kfc

23:57

Keep me ou-

23:57

ah damn

Uhhhhhh can I still play it off

Now it'z gonna look suspiciousssssss

23:58

Just be honest about needing the other cc for talking with coal

Yeah will do

23:58

The claim list is still in the other cc

23:59

Good thing I remembered

Ah.

23:59

Would that be okay?

23:59

Time might die

The only thing is time being medium that I don't want to get out

23:59

That's it though

Yeah since the reporter info is here

23:59

How are you going to play off not giving luffy reporter info though

00:00

Do you have a fake back up

00:00

I suggest you have one. Keep the scums right where they are in the list, just swap the town claims around and put me in unaccounted

Yeah but have you under wolves

That yeah

00:02

That's it from me then

00:02

I'm going to go back to sleep soon

Genuinely thank you so much for the help

For now I'll put Devout Villager in Herald

00:02

...wait no

00:03

Citizen?

00:03

Still no

00:03

We know there's 2x

Yes

00:03

And I dunno if one of the wolves is posing as dv

It has to be either Medium or Undead then

It would definitely be suspicious if I have them anywhere else

00:04

Oh citizen onto medium is good

Wait

Maybe

We might be talking about different things here LMAO

We definitely are

I'm talking about what to herald check

Oh I see

The other town roles are all 2x

Herald check medium or undead for this phase?

And obviously wolves won't target other wolves

Ofc

So it has to be either Medium, Undead

Medium makes more sense in the current mindset

There's a chance they still haven't seen Warlock too but I won't bank on that

I think that ship has sailed

Of course the reason why I'm even bothering with Herald check when you're already Reporter is because you'll likely die

00:06

...?

00:06

Wait, this is useless

00:07

Because N2 wolves double killed Arch and Dansan

00:07

It's impossible that Dansan would assassinate Arch because duh

00:08

So it has to be a double kill from wolves

Right

Which means tonight is just one kill

00:08

Ah

We have 30 mins to get a question to time btw

Right, the luffy plan

Tell luffy to check if medium dies

"Is coal town"

00:09

Should be good

00:09

That would resolve the coal-bass thing

Yep

00:10

And the other three I guess we prod a bit more?

00:10

I do want claims still

00:10

At least to check for slip ups

Okay, checking Medium with Herald for now on delay

00:11

Let's hope the luffy plan works and they actually don't kill you

00:12

Good night

Good night

00:15

Sleep well

Sharl claims cit

Mkay claims cit too

Oh wow I caused chaos last night

10:20

I wanted to go to bed so I had to tie up conversations

10:22

I released a fake list to luffy

10:22

Fake Role List S14G1

Townsfolk | Total: 11 Assassin - ~~dan~~ Medium - [‍️ pixelpirate] Get herald to check Innkeeper - ~~yuki~~ 2x Herald - ~~swurtle~~ -

luffy 2x Huntress - ~~jay~~ - ~~arch~~ 2x Devout Villager -

gh0st - [ coal - ‍⬛ - bass] One of the cit/dv claims is undead. Possibly 2 undead 2x Citizen - [ sharle - time - mkay] One of the cit/dv claims is undead. Possibly 2 undead Werewolves | Total: 5 Howling Wolf Warlock - [

light] Unsure of whether they are warlock but they seem to have some source of info to fake herald Alpha Wolf - ~~✨ pkr~~ Saboteur Wolf - ~~kal~~ Wolf Solo | Total: 2 Vampire - ~~️ sin~~ Undead Unaligned | Total: 1 Chef - ~~voidmist~~ Unaccounted for | Total: 1

ocean

10:22

And luffy wanted to cc pixelpirate pretty much straight away

10:22

But then at the same time was going 'why should I trust your list cause I think you're wolf'

10:23

So as insurance, I went to pixel first and said not to respond to ccs from either of you knowing that herald got lynched

10:24

I'll clear up who town should follow right before phase change so that we have a clear lynch target

I figured it was something like that

Like

10:25

Luffy really wanted to cc pixel

So just 34 more minutes

Yeah

10:27

I'll send it in the last 5 minutes or so

10:27

Depends on how many people are online

10:27

I don't want wolves to be able to respond and change who they're trying to lynch tonight

...wait

10:28

Why not just make this CC a succession CC

We might as well do that

10:28

It has the real claim list

Are the info here okay to release

The full list?

Oh in case I die

✅ Promoted @Ghost haunting No. 50!

Oh I gotchu

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I technically have joint ownership with you rn

CC Members | Total: 3 @Lantern Checker @Carpenter Arch @Ghost haunting No. 50 (edited)

Oh I forgot arch was in here

I mean

10:30

Every dead person can see this

Yeah I know

10:31

I hate this

10:38

Ocean claims cit too

Ghost haunting No. 50

I'll send it in the last 5 minutes or so

Why 5 minutes before?

10:52

The bot handles phase change now

In case wolves want to change their vote

I mean that 5 minutes before is too long

10:52

You could easily make it 1 minute or less

I just finished writing everything

10:53

Wanna take a read before I send it?

Yeah sure

10:53

Can you send it here

@Participant I'd like to firstly apologise for keeping y'all in the dark about what has happened. The reason for doing so was because I found that Swurtle was herald when I was elected as reporter. This meant that of the other two herald claims was lying. Last night, Light was checking for vampire and he was alerted that vampire died. The only way that light could have known that vampire had died was if wolfpack was working with vampire. Considering that there was barely any argument on lynching fish/sinisfuel yesterday, that is very unlikely. This means that Light is the real herald. In contrast, Luffy was asked to check for assassin and was not alerted. This matches up as assassin (Dansan) died the night before as wolfpack's second kill from howling wolf. Dansan was a very strange kill for wolves but their kill can be explained if warlock managed to find wolfpack and assassin the following night - much more plausable since I know that warlock is still alive as reporter. As such, I'd like to ask everyone to lynch Luffy today

The part about luffy doesnt make much sense, sorry

10:54

Can you explain why luffy being correct means luffy is lynch

Luffy would be able to fake being herald knowing that wolfpack killed assassin the night before

10:55

Though this is basing off of the assumption that wolfpack knew that they were killing assassin since dansan was a really weird kill

10:55

I should clarify that

This message is going to be sent under the assumption you won't be around to explain so it'd be nice if you can clarify yeah (edited)

I'll just edit the last paragraph

Yeah 3 mins left

10:58

Oh and I'm on Medium for Herald check just clarifying

Cool

10:59

Thanks ^^

10:59

We can pretty much be sure that medium is time

11:00

Too bad no more double lynches

O7

We could've gotten out a second scum today with medium info

11:00

o7

Last marked player dies (edited)

Noooooooo

11:00

Damn you Luffy

...

11:02

Can I confess?

Did I screw up

This is actually... just as planned.

QwQ

I leaked to Luffy that Time is medium.

11:03

This is in order for you and I to survive.

Why

11:03

We were gonna get good info

11:03

Now we have to guess at who is who based solely off of reads

If they're attacking Time, that means they're not attacking you (Reporter DV) and me (Herald that might turn Undead).

4 cit claims

I'm sorry.

11:04

But it's easier to lead Luffy if he's cornered and got a light at the end of the tunnel

11:04

I'm sorry @Timely Inspector

11:09

@Ghost haunting No. 50 should you reveal that Vamp is dead

11:09

Or not?

I did in the paragraph before

11:09

It's used to clarify why you're herald

Oh right

Do you want to take guardian?

11:21

I want to talk about the citizen claims at some point

Hm.

11:22

I think this is as far as I go.

11:22

I think you should take Guardian and ignore any message from me from next night phase change forward.

11:23

hands over staff You must continue your journey... without me. (edited)

11:24

11:25

I'm not good at the endgame part of WWR and almost always die near the end

11:26

Splitting the good roles between me and you just ensures one of us dies or gets undeaded

~~url~~

(edited)

Oops I am being a dumbass

11:28

QwQ

11:29

I can't be here at phase change cause I'll be at work

I mean, I don't think there'll be any issues with voting

Alive Players | Total: 9

‍

️ - pixelpirate0050 (@Professional Gamer)

- lightpulp (@Lantern Checker)

- sharleclaire (@The Street's Astronomer)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Ghost haunting No. 50)

- theoceancookie (@Baking Grandma)

- captainluffy (@Retired Captain)

- mkayfme (@Average Dude)

‍⬛ - basscy (@"Greatest Yard" Winner)

- char._.coal (@Local Coalminer) (edited)

It's mostly just to keep an eye on pixel now that their vote is doubled

Ghost haunting No. 50

So as insurance, I went to pixel first and said not to respond to ccs from either of you knowing that herald got lynched

Can you add me to the cc where you said this to pixel?

13:22

I want to make sure this isn't pack contacting pack

You're looking to get into a lot of ccs

13:24

o.o

13:25

I can't add you but I've asked pixel to add you

Thanks. Feel free to kick me out after if you think I'm Undead

In the meantime, what are you checking for

Just the proof you did tell pixel at all

13:35

Oh you mean for lynch

13:35

Warlock

13:35

You theorize luffy is warlock

Just guessing

13:53

But of course he knows how to fake herald even without warlock info

Oh uh, I misunderstood you again

14:08

Warlock is a good check for tonight though I'd know via reporter

Yes

Heya, if you’re around is there anyone specific out of the dv and city claims that you would trust more?

19:37

We do need someone for guardian and I doubt people will vote s

vote me*

20:48

I’m at work

We got wolf QwQ

23:01

Luffy was wolf

23:01

I wanna cry

Warlock is still around since Luffy was vanilla wolf

23:30

Who should I get bass to protect

23:30

I doubt there’s much reason to keep reporter around anymore

23:30

I’m not 100% sure that I should’ve given it to bass

Warlock did not die indeed based on Herald check

Ghost haunting No. 50

I’m not 100% sure that I should’ve given it to bass

If you gave it to Bass does that mean you're sussing Coal?

I am

02:04

I was sussing coal for being so quiet but then at the same time that's probably cause I didn't really talk to them that much

02:05

Both bass and coal are devout villager claims so I know one is lying

Ghost haunting No. 50

I doubt there’s much reason to keep reporter around anymore

Retire tonight phase and make me Reporter tomorrow?

Guardian is kinda just a bonus for us

02:06

I don't get to know who dies if I retire now though

02:06

Well I suppose it doesn't really matter cause 99% wolves hit town

Yup

02:07

I'll put Undead for check then? Or do you guess a different role

Ghost haunting No. 50

Who should I get bass to protect

Have Bass protect me

Asked for that already

Ohhh

No response from bass

02:09

I asked 2 hours ago

Wait you knew I'd ask you to protect me?

02:10

The logic goes, if I'm protected then I'm sure to not to turn Undead and that way confirm we have non-scum Reporter when I get it

02:11

From the kills so far we know there's almost no increase in Undead

02:11

Because almost every kill is accounted for

02:12

So this might be the first night with a demonized player dying

02:12

and turning Undead

02:13

The reason it's not 100% is because Dansan as Assassin might have hit someone we don't know about

02:17

Based on your list there are 6 roles I could check for.

Devout Villager: There's 2 alive so Herald won't trigger even if one of you dies.
Citizen: Same issue as DV.
Herald: I'm Herald, so me dying would mean no one can check it.
Howl Wolf: Wolf duh they won't die
Warlock: Very very slim possibility they haven't contacted Wolves yet.
Undead: Currently there should only be one.

(edited)

02:17

Hence why I think I should go check Undead

02:21

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Should we pretend Medium told us the tip to lynch whoever you pick tomorrow?

02:21

No one else knows Medium died

02:21

Other than wolves

Lantern Checker

Wait you knew I'd ask you to protect me?

I wanted to protect you cause I didn't want you turning undead. You're the last source of info for town

04:32

Sorry, I've been online but busy

04:32

And again, I don't want to give up reporter until I have to

Lantern Checker

The reason it's not 100% is because Dansan as Assassin might have hit someone we don't know about

Already considered cause we already know that there is 2 undead at most right now

Lantern Checker

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Should we pretend Medium told us the tip to lynch whoever you pick tomorrow?

Yeah that would be good

04:37

Bass apparently protected themselves

A scum, then.

I guess I judged wrong

04:38

Should've made coal guardian

04:39

In any case, we can lynch bass tomorrow

04:39

I'm gonna have to deal with people not trusting me anymore though :/

Lantern Checker

Hence why I think I should go check Undead

I don't think checking undead would help us

04:46

The only case where you would be alerted is if there is only 1 undead and we kill that undead

That is indeed what I think happens

But then I guess all the other roles are doubled and wolf can't attack wolf

04:47

Yeah

04:47

It's the only info we can get

04:47

Sorry

04:47

I actually need to get some sleep

No problems

04:48

We don't have much to do during night phases

That's true

04:48

I made a new cc with coal just in case I need to ask them to vote with us

04:48

We're probably gonna have to lynch bass tomorrow

Ghost haunting No. 50

And again, I don't want to give up reporter until I have to

If no one dies tonight, assume I'm Undead.

Sure

If Bass is indeed scum then wolves would be targeting me and saying "I was just lying I did protect Light"

05:06

Sigh

05:06

Maybe we really should have made me Guardian lol

Welp

05:07

If no one dies tonight, you're gonna have to make a really convincing case for yourself tomorrow

Ghost haunting No. 50

If no one dies tonight, you're gonna have to make a really convincing case for yourself tomorrow

I mean, even if I did turn Undead, I'm not the priority lynch

05:22

We just need Howling Wolf out to completely stop night attacks

05:23

Once that happens the only way to kill is via lynch now

Yeah ofc

I will say though

05:24

Be especially wary of the mayor and the monarch with a heir

05:24

Keep track of how many votes scum has

05:25

Or else even lynch votes won't be safe from them

05:27

Oh

05:27

We should make a succession CC

05:27

If you die (edited)

05:27

@Ghost haunting No. 50

05:27

Do you have a free CC? Or should I make one?

Ghost haunting No. 50

I actually need to get some sleep

Oh right, sorry.

Right

12:03

We do need a succession cc

12:03

Morning

12:03

Uhhh

12:03

Mkay was cut

12:03

Cit

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk | Total: 6/11 Devout Villager - Gh0st Devout Villager - Coal or Bass Citizen - Pixelpirate or Sharl or Ocean Citizen - Mkay Innkeeper - Yuki Assassin - Dansan Herald - Light Herald - Swurtle Huntress - Jay Huntress - Arch Medium - Time Werewolves | Total: 2/5 Howling Wolf - Wolf - Luffy Alpha Wolf - PKR Saboteur Wolf - Kal Warlock - Solo | Total: 1/2 Vampire - Sin Undead Unaligned | Total: 0/1 Chef - Voidmist (edited)

13:03

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk Devout Villager - Gh0st Devout Villager - Coal or Bass Citizen - Pixelpirate or Sharl or Ocean Herald - Light Werewolves Howling Wolf - Warlock - Solo Undead

13:05

There are two scum hiding in Cit

13:05

In other words it's a 2/3 chance we lynch scum if we go by random

Lantern Checker

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk Devout Villager - Gh0st Devout Villager - Coal or Bass Citizen - Pixelpirate or Sharl or Ocean Herald - Light Werewolves Howling Wolf - Warlock - Solo Undead

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Do you think it's time we release at least this info?

Yeah sure

13:22

It will help the last cit and dv play with us

13:23

Only question is if we want to fake medium being still alive or not

Just don't say when

13:43

For all they know mkay could have been Medium

Heya

14:44

Are you around?

14:44

I wanna bounce ideas

14:45

The 2/3 chance of getting scum by going random for one of the citizen claims is good and all but then there's monarch and mayor having double votes

14:48

In terms of who we go for

14:49

I kinda want to vote sharl

14:51

It's hard to say what sharl is doing at all since he's not voting on any of the polls

14:53

Knowing that it's 4 v 2 v 1 is nice but I want to be sure that we never get into a situation where a wolf has either monarch or mayor

Ghost haunting No. 50

I wanna bounce ideas

It might be better to bounce ideas in town square for that no

15:07

With everyone

15:07

We get to use social reads from their discussions that way too

Yeah true

15:09

I'll go repeat that conversation

By the way, for some reason Coal's Heir only got their extra vote last lynch

15:12

Wait no

15:13

Could it be coal didn't send an heir?

Lantern Checker

By the way, for some reason Coal's Heir only got their extra vote last lynch

Nevermind, I realized too late that what I saw was Mayor's double vote nvm

I'm pretty sure that's not how monarch works

Yeah

15:13

Realized it as I was typing

No worries

15:15

You should be the heir right now

Why?

15:15

Coal said it?

Cause we were gonna see if anyone dies tonight or not

15:16

They switched last phase cause time was supposed to have it but time died

15:16

If no one dies tonight, we move heir to someone else

And since mkay die the heir stays on me

15:16

Makes sense

15:16

It ensures scum doesn't get the extra vote

Yeah

I think it's about time to make a decision on publicly revealing the current claims list

I say we do it

Earlier we get the initiative the better

It's time to do social reads

Because the past few days a few hours from now town discussion dies down

I'm going to work in 2 hours so I have till then to finish up anything

15:17

Yeah

15:18

I'm gonna send the list now then ig

Ahh

15:54

I see why Wolves aren't attacking me

15:54

If I who's Town gets turned Undead, I'd know who the Undead are

15:54

And that makes who the Wolves are obvious and I'd push for their lynch

Mmm true true

15:56

But then undead would probably lose or tie with town

15:58

Also, any thoughts on pixel?

15:58

I didn't really discuss that much with them

So right now there's bass, ocean and pixel that think coal is scum

16:41

And you pushing pixel's wording

16:41

Bass feels more and more like scum

And sharl?

Sharl feels like he has no clue what's going on and isn't invested at all

16:51

I mean, if that's not usual sharl then sharl is just wolf whose waiting for their packmate to tell them what to do

Yeah, I read sharl as warlock based on previous experiences playing with them

We do sharl today then

17:03

Pixel is making an interesting accusation (edited)

The issue is killing sharl won't make night attacks stop

Yeah

17:04

There's two wolves left

One howling wolf and one warlock

17:04

But only the howling wolf can pack vote

17:04

So killing howling wolf specifically stops night attack

Ohhhhhh right good point

Yep

17:05

It has to be lone warlock to join pack

17:05

But a normal warlock can't

We pretty much win if we lynch howling wolf

17:06

So we assume sharl is warlock cause of how little they've been chatting in town and also privately

Well that's a read based on past experiences

I trust it

Not necessarily conclusive

17:06

I don't

17:06

Lmao

17:07

It's a bit too close to inactivity meta for comfort

Yeah

17:07

But the specific difference is that you're using what sharl would do from past games

17:07

That differentiates scum reads from inactivity meta

It does feel weird that almost no one else is pushing for sharl

17:08

Are we literally talking to scum

Oh yeah definitely

17:08

That's what the game is for town

17:08

We don't have any conclusive way to determine people's roles till we lynch them

I have my herald on citizen atm

17:09

Should I change it

Don't need to

Alright

17:09

I guess announce the lynch

Yeah

17:10

I'm happy that I didn't give up reporter now :)

Ghost haunting No. 50

Don't need to

Oh, by the way, sorry but I think I'm going to change it after all

Sure

And I won't tell you to what

That's ok

I just want to be extra extra sure you're trustworthy

I'll tell you who died and you can judge based off of your info

Yeah

17:10

Sorry

17:10

And thanks

You're ok

17:11

I know that I've been constantly sussed this game

17:11

And it's justified

A healthy amount of skepticism

The one thing I regret is playing the guilt card on luffy to shut down any questions he was asking .,.

While we're on regrets, I have two

17:12

I regret not doing the innkeeper test on Swurtle like I said

17:12

Because if she passed that test we would have had lynched luffy earlier as agreed and have two heralds still

Definitely

17:13

And at that point pointing out luffy being sus would've also gotten luffy lynched earlier

My second regret is using Time as bait for wolves, for the same reason you mentioned (Medium could give us info)

17:13

There is a reason why I had to honestly say the real Medium though

Welp we're getting over that now

Warlock would have checked

Yeah

17:14

I know what you mean

17:14

Luffy would've known I was lying to him

Just wish there could have been more I could have done

17:14

Like getting Guardian instead of Bass

Yeah but that was my bad judgement, not yours

17:15

Helping with scum reads is so helpful right now though

I have a lot of unused CCs btw

17:15

Want them?

I have ccs with everyone

Or is it useless

You're free to use them

Yeah but the CCs are populated with others now

I don't think I've ever seen so many ccs while I'm still in a game

17:15

Fair

17:15

I don't have much to ask though

What do you want me to name them

17:15

Before I promote you and leave

17:16

I have 3 I think? Or 2

Oh uhhhhhhhh lemmie check if I have another cc

17:16

I'm gonna do succession cc

17:16

Bah never mind (edited)

17:16

I used all my ccs

17:16

lol

There should be 4

17:17

There you go lol

lmao that was so unneccessary

@Ghost haunting No. 50 As soon as you announce lynch I'm voting then going to sleep sorry

Oh oops

17:22

I'll do it

17:22

Sharl?

17:23

Or are we choosing someone else so we can get rid of pack

17:23

I need to go to work .,.

I mean Sharl is as good a guess as any

17:24

Could either be Warlock or Howling Wolf honestly

17:25

Aight, good luck with work, I'm going to sleep

^^

17:25

Fingers crossed

WE HIT WARLOCK!!

23:02

23:02

Welp

23:02

I suppose that was kinda expected

I had moved Herald to Howling Wolf

00:27

No hits

00:27

Therefore we can expect another attack tonight...

Role List S14G1

Townsfolk Devout Villager - Gh0st Herald - Light Devout Villager - Coal or Bass Citizen - Pixelpirate or Ocean Werewolves Howling Wolf - Solo Undead -

00:36

.

00:37

The wolf will need to hit one of us now

00:37

If they don't they confirm someone else

00:38

If they hit Coal it confirms Bass as DV, if they hit Bass it confirms Coal as DV If they hit Pixel they confirm Ocean, if they hit Ocean they confirm Pixel as Citizen

00:39

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Ocean was the last, the very last one, to claim to you. I feel that's significant

Yeah definitely

00:44

I was sussing ocean

00:44

Between ocean and pixel, I think ocean is scum

00:45

Since Bass can't protect you tonight, I'll ask them to protect me

Have Bass protect you

00:45

And Coal to Heir you

00:45

Wolves won't attack me because when I turn Undead I get to know who's the other Undead and thus be able to push lynch for the last wolf

00:46

You can keep trusting me until tomorrow

Yes unless you just straight up die

00:47

:p

00:47

That is still a possibility

00:47

I'm not entirely sure that coal should heir me

00:47

Plus it shouldn't matter this phase since they can change on day phase

00:47

I'll ask them in any case

Ghost haunting No. 50

Plus it shouldn't matter this phase since they can change on day phase

It will matter because if they die tonight we can't ask them to give it to you

Oh true

And I'm at risk of turning undead

Just a reminder if no one dies tonight, assume I'm Undead

10:54

Oh, but even if I did, you can trust me to lynch the wolf at the very least

10:55

Because I'd know who the other Undead was

11:00

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Citizen Ocean died

TL;DR of my thought process

According to Herald, the last Citizen died. That means PixelPirate is a scum.
Because the other Citizen claims were the real Citizen (Ocean) and a Warlock (Sharl), that means PixelPirate must be the Undead. This is also (partially) supported by the idea that Howling Wolf wouldn't want to kill their Counterclaim and reveal themself as scum.
Bass retired as Guardian. If Bass was Howling Wolf, they wouldn't have wanted Town to get the Guardian and possibly block their night attack.
Therefore, the Howling Wolf is Coal.

Lantern Checker

TL;DR of my thought process

According to Herald, the last Citizen died. That means PixelPirate is a scum.
Because the other Citizen claims were the real Citizen (Ocean) and a Warlock (Sharl), that means PixelPirate must be the Undead. This is also (partially) supported by the idea that Howling Wolf wouldn't want to kill their Counterclaim and reveal themself as scum.
Bass retired as Guardian. If Bass was Howling Wolf, they wouldn't have wanted Town to get the Guardian and possibly block their night attack.
Therefore, the Howling Wolf is Coal.

Have you been making a plan with bass in the back?

11:43

Bass seemed really scummy to me but if you guys had a plan to transfer guardian over to you then it would be fine

Ghost haunting No. 50

Bass seemed really scummy to me but if you guys had a plan to transfer guardian over to you then it would be fine

....I thought you were the one who told Bass to resign from Guardian...

11:46

You mean you didn't??

11:46

Then why did

Ghost haunting No. 50

Have you been making a plan with bass in the back?

You know for a fact I gave all my CCs to you, unless Bass CCs me I have no way of making a plan with Bass

Right

11:47

I didn't tell bass to resign

You could ask for their reason why

I asked bass to promote me in our cc as a sign of good faith

11:48

Bass didn't do that

I just don't understand how this would help Bass if Bass was scum

11:49

As I already pointed out, risking a town Guardian blocking your night attacks is anti Wolf winning condition

11:49

If Bass was wolf he'd want to hold on to the Guardian

Bass is literally saying to me that mayor has the votes to get you out and that pixel can replace any job we lose

11:50

Yes but right now in my mind, wolf and undead could be playing together to try and make us vote out the wrong person

For now it's best if you take care of PixelPirate because they won't listen to me whatever I say

They have admitted to being undead in town

Ghost haunting No. 50

Yes but right now in my mind, wolf and undead could be playing together to try and make us vote out the wrong person

And try not to make PixelPirate realize that Howling Wolf staying alive would help with their win condition because there won't be new Undeads if wolves are all dead

To be fair we wouldn't know if anyone is demonised

I definitely am

11:53

I don't see why Vampire wouldn't demonize me

11:53

They've had 3 days

11:55

Oh.

I had to go and check again

FOUR demonizations

11:55

Not three

11:56

It'd be unlucky if it was all wolves or someone we lynched

11:56

Unlucky for vamp, of course, not for us

Yeah definitely but what we've seen, we've definitely been lynching all the demonised people

For now maybe it's good to announce coal lynch and me guardian, what do you think?

11:57

Especially since Coal has Monarch and would want to pick an heir against us (edited)

11:58

That means PixelPirate can potentially have 3 votes all by themselves

11:58

That makes pulling PixelPirate to our side even more important

11:59

We won't win lynch if Coal and PP team up because that's 3+1 vote against 3 town

Pixel will 100% be against making you guardian

12:00

Actually

So you guardian then

Undead would want to work with wolves right now

12:01

If wolf and undead have mayor and monarch, they'd be able to outright outvote town

12:01

There wouldn't be any need for this discussion

12:01

It would just be a matter of wolf making sure that undeads don't take over in terms of vote numbers

That is indeed why I leave you to take care of PP

But what's to say that howling wolf is already contacting undead to come up with some sort of plan

12:02

I'm not convinced that coal isn't town

It's either Bass or Coal, right?

Yeah

We can't exactly lynch PixelPirate in this state

And Bass hasn't protected the way we've wanted him to for the past two nights

12:03

Yes

12:03

We can't lynch pixel right now

12:04

I can't even add you into the cc

Did he not though? Weren't your orders to protect me then you? We're both alive

Bass has been super cheeky :/

12:05

Coal apparently protected me the first night they had guardian and pixel the second night so mayor can counteract monarch

12:05

Sorry not coal

12:05

Bass

My thought is that it's better to lynch coal because if Coal is scum we remove a Monarch Heir vote from scum, and if Coal is town we get an extra vote against Mayor PP

I'll have to go check with coal to see who has the heir vote

Since it's a role that transfers

12:07

I think you shouldn't

Why not?

It'd alert coal into changing heira using their every-phase switch, and the 1 emergency per game switch

12:08

If the heir is still on me it's better not to give them the idea to switch

12:08

By putting attention to its importance

I asked them to switch to me last night already

12:09

They haven't responded

12:09

Under the assumption that they are wolf, wouldn't they have moves heir away much earlier than that?

To who?

12:10

They're the last wolf so they can't pick another wolf

Well to undead?

And until this phase they didn't know who undead was

There's a possibility that warlock found undead before we lynched warlock?

I can't deny that

I'm gonna go check the mechanic for monarch again

12:12

It's always been a bif iffy

But then that just means we have no moves to make to convince Coal with

Mm

I could pretend to be Undead and get Coal to side with me but it'd be way too obviously suspicious why I'm only just now doing this thing

@Host Could I confirm if the monarch is supposed to get an additional invisible vote that gets passed to heir when they die

Lantern Checker

I could pretend to be Undead and get Coal to side with me but it'd be way too obviously suspicious why I'm only just now doing this thing

That would be super suspicious if coal is cit

12:14

It would flip the votes against you if you do that

12:14

We know that pixel is likely the last undead

12:15

You're gonna pretend to be undead also to a potential wolf to get on coal's side?

Ghost haunting No. 50

@Host Could I confirm if the monarch is supposed to get an additional invisible vote that gets passed to heir when they die

Just the heir gets it, not the monarch

Sure they don't know if you could be undead because of assassin, but assassin targetting you that early on isn't even worth considering when I've been saying how you can't be undead this whole time

Ghost haunting No. 50

That would be super suspicious if coal is cit

Coal can't be cit because Coal is a DV claim

12:16

And the last Cit died

Jordan

Just the heir gets it, not the monarch

Oh we need to change that wording

12:16

That's just bad wording kek

Ye it confused me too dw

Oops

12:17

Mb

12:17

dv

12:17

You're trying to convince a dv claim that's potentially wolf that you're undead

12:17

Which can't be true cause you've used vampire to prove that you're herald and not undead

12:18

Wolves can keep track of every kill since then

I mean, if I was Undead obviously I'd know who's Vampire

12:18

Because we're part of the same Hell team chat

And the other undead would know too

Yes but the idea is that Pixel "isn't an Undead, just bait and I'm the actual Undead"

12:19

Well, even I have doubts with this story too anyway

12:19

I'm practically just thinking out loud

I know and I don't think it's a good story

12:20

To convince wolves or town

12:20

As well, coal has been nothing but helpful too

12:21

I don't get why bass isn't cooperating at all with what we're planning

12:21

I can go add you to the coal cc I have

No

12:22

It's better if I have less traces in those parts

12:22

I trust you and I want them to trust you and only you

12:22

Too many cooks spoil the broth pr however the quote goes

I'm not cooking though

12:23

I'm cooked

12:23

I'm being cooked

Welcome to TT

12:23

Why do you think I've been entrusting everything to you LMAO

To be fair I'm basing what I want to do right now off of how I've read these people

12:23

Kek

My current position is very comfortable

12:24

I get to talk directly to you the leader, as if I'm some kind of eminence in the shadow

12:24

Only helping out a bit to give you hints while leading the team to victory

12:25

(Herald checks)

I wanted to establish tt with more info roles that would've helped us figure out the game

12:25

Except innkeeper and medium both died pretty early

12:26

We were literally one night away from finding out who the other real dv is

12:26

Ok I need a slap in the face, that's not relevant

12:28

Again from the top, I think that bass has been purposefully manipulating who is being killed and keeping us alive to make people suspicious of us. Wolf as guardian means that wolf can kill whoever they want and lie about who they are protecting

But now Bass is not Guardian

That doesn't mean anything is bass was wolf in the first place

My concern is that it's much worse for us if Coal is scum than if Bass is scum

12:30

So I'm just leaning towards getting rid of our worst case scenario

Coal being wolf would only be empowering undead to vote with them

Can you help me run the numbers? What if Coal was town monarch and we lynch coal, do we still win? (edited)

Wait hold on

12:30

I'll do it now

12:30

If coal was town monarch, we are left with 2 v 1 v 1

I can't really focus since I'm currently travelling by bus and it's dark and shaky

Undead has double votes

Lantern Checker

I can't really focus since I'm currently travelling by bus and it's dark and shaky

Yeah sure, I'm doing it

Ghost haunting No. 50

If coal was town monarch, we are left with 2 v 1 v 1

If Coal was town monarch the extra vote would go to one of us

Yes that's true

And one of us becomes Heir-turned-Monarch and then we can make the other one an Heir (edited)

Wolf won't know who has the extra vote

Lantern Checker

And one of us becomes Heir-turned-Monarch and then we can make the other one an Heir (edited)

No, heir doesn't pass down

12:31

There is only one heir

It does

Second line of the monarch info block

12:32

Oh hold on not second line

12:32

Where is it

12:32

"players who gain the Monarch role through the heir mechanic may opt to not select an heir."

@Host Confirmation request. If Monarch dies, the old Heir becomes the new Monarch, and can choose another Heir to give extra vote to?

Wait

Lantern Checker

@Host Confirmation request. If Monarch dies, the old Heir becomes the new Monarch, and can choose another Heir to give extra vote to?

correct

Did they change monarch

Thank you for the confirmation.

Damn I just embarrased myself

That means if Coal is town Monarch we get to keep the extra vote to next day phase (edited)

I don't think it matters regardless (edited)

I think it changes a lot

We lynch coal, wolf will want to kill one of the two of us tonight

Can I ask you to run the numbers through again

Yeah

12:36

Assuming coal is town monarch and they still trust us with heir, we get the extra vote. Wolf will want to kill me to prevent making another undead, making the heir mechanic useless cause we don't have enough time to use the extra vote anyway

12:37

They try to convince undead to vote out the last town and they can kill on the last night to win

12:37

Otherwise, undead votes for wolf and undead wins

Ghost haunting No. 50

Assuming coal is town monarch and they still trust us with heir, we get the extra vote. Wolf will want to kill me to prevent making another undead, making the heir mechanic useless cause we don't have enough time to use the extra vote anyway

Why would it be wasted?

Because heir gets the extra vote, not monarch

If you're Coal's Heir, you can make me the next Heir so when they kill you I become the new Monarch and choose a different town as Heir

12:39

Same if we swap

There will be no other town if coal is town monarch

Ahhhh

Alive Players | Total: 5

‍

️ - pixelpirate0050 (@Professional Gamer)

- lightpulp (@Lantern Checker)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Ghost haunting No. 50)

‍⬛ - basscy (@"Greatest Yard" Winner)

- char._.coal (@Local Coalminer) (edited)

Yeah

12:40

If coal is wolf, great for us

12:40

If not, we've just given the game to either wolf or undead

I see, that makes perfect sense

We get in the same situation if coal is wolf and we lynch bass

I thought we'd still have one other town ally by next day, but no

12:41

In other words... Sigh...

Yeah makes sense

It's ANOTHER social read lynching...

12:42

This is like what, the fourth?!

Lmaoooo that's what is was before

12:42

Yeah

12:42

Never mind, third

Arch vs Kal Swurtle vs Luffy Pixel vs Ocean vs Sharl And now Bass vs Coal

If you count Luffy as the first then this is the third

12:43

Oh right

12:43

Damn

12:43

lol

12:43

QwQ

This is so stressful

Or I could run through what would happen if we lynch known scum

Pixel pirate?

Yes

We just lose outright, right?

Lantern Checker

This is so stressful

I know QwQ

12:44

Do we?

12:44

I think we're prolonging the game by one more day

12:44

And making one more read based lynch

If we try to lynch Pixel Pirate, coal scum would give Pixel the extra vote, but Bass scum wouldn't do anything

Ah 3 votes in favour of pixel

Only if Coal is the other scum

12:45

So we still face the issue of Coal vs Bass

Yes

12:49

Do you still want to lynch coal cause I want to lynch bass

You can put it to discussion with pixel

12:49

Ah

12:49

You cant huh

12:49

Because it'd give pixel the idea to reach out to scum

12:50

I suggest you talk individually with coal and bass

12:50

Because this is yet another social read game

12:50

*social read vote

12:51

Sorry I think I'm about to vomit due to using phone while on commute

12:51

Good luck I'll come back later

o7

12:56

See you later

Ok

14:35

Wanna take some time out of your day to read my convo with bass?

We're switching lynch to Bass

Lmaoooooooo

15:19

You see what I mean?

Oh.

15:19

My.

15:19

God.

15:19

I MIXED UP THE CHANNELS

15:19

We have to teach them a lesson one way or another not to play as dumb shit like this

15:19

Bass being uncooperative is enough reason

I saw it

15:19

XD

15:20

That's so funny

15:20

Who are we doing for guardian?

You

15:20

I'm not going to get any votes as guardian as you said

15:21

Pixel hates me

15:22

One thing I notice is that scum tends to like to drop hints as if they feel smart enough not to get caught and can go "wow town you're so dumb I literally sent X message"

15:22

Like Swurtle's "I am a role that can help town" Pixel's "I am basically a cit"

Yeah

15:22

I saw that

15:23

That one was a good catch

15:23

I should've paid more attention to it

15:23

Honestly I put it off cause it was pixel's first game

Isn't pixel a returning player

I didn't expect them to play well being their first game

Pixel: Have been startegisying also with them

We literally just outright lose if Coal indeed is howling wolf and Pixel and Coal have been communicating, which means they both already know they can pile up votes on Pixel

15:39

Like, no way out now

15:40

We just outright lose

Mm

15:40

We have already lost bass though

15:40

If we swap to pixel now, wouldn't it be too late

No no, here's the thing

And again, we do pixel who's undead, we just prolong the game for one for day

We literally already lost if Coal is scum

Right

The only way we can still win is if Bass is scum

But now how do we convince bass

No, you don't get it

15:41

What I'm saying is

15:42

If Coal is scum, then we can never outvote and we lose lynch

Yes

If Bass is scum, we can still outvote him

I hear you

Therefore the only option for us is to keep to the Bass lynch

15:42

Let me try to think of an analogy

No no I get what you're saying

15:43

Coal town we can outvote pixel

15:43

Coal wolf they will pile votes (edited)

15:44

That's wolf win if pixel votes out town the next day, and undead win if they vote out wolf

Lantern Checker

Let me try to think of an analogy

Let's gamble. Bet your entire life savings that you will survive me unloading 6 bullets into your head.

Kek

15:47

I’m going to work

If you "win" you got 6 bullets into your head

15:47

If you "lose" you lose your entire life savings

15:47

There is no way to win

provide me with both your life savings and the 6 bullets to the head

Lantern Checker

Let's gamble. Bet your entire life savings that you will survive me unloading 6 bullets into your head.

Rewrite Let's gamble. I bet you can survive me unloading 6 bullets into your head. If you survive, that means I win, and I get your life savings. If you don't survive, that means you "win". Deal?

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15:52

Alive Players | Total: 5

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️ - pixelpirate0050 (@Professional Gamer)

- lightpulp (@Lantern Checker)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Ghost haunting No. 50)

‍⬛ - basscy (@"Greatest Yard" Winner)

- char._.coal (@Local Coalminer) (edited)

Pixel - undead + mayor + heir Light - town Ghost - town (DV) Bass - town (DV) Coal - wolf (edited)

15:54

If I'm lynched as pixel wants, then all that's left are DVs

15:55

Pixel - undead + mayor + heir Bass - town (DV) Coal - wolf

Lantern Checker

Pixel - undead + mayor + heir Bass - town (DV) Coal - wolf

I get the lose-lose situation analogy but not what’s going on here

Fudge

23:06

We got devout villager

23:06

Wolf and undead left

23:07

Whyyyyy bass

23:07

That is such a bad way to play town QwQ

23:13

Coal is saying that they are vamp now

23:13

Town can’t win unfortunately

@Ghost haunting No. 50 Result?

11:18

From Rep

Undead

11:19

Pixel was undead

Makes sense

Yeah which was why I’m so confused

I guess rather than Wolf vs Undead they want a Town vs Wolf

I guess coal was debating who to kill cause of guardian

11:19

I didn’t tell pixel to protect anyone

This is not a good outcome though

11:20

For wolf

Nope cause we can outvote coal now

11:20

If coal had killed one of us and made the other heir, he could’ve convinced us to give him wolf win

11:21

If pixel votes off wolf, undead wins

11:21

If pixel votes off town then wolf wins

✅ Demoted @Ghost haunting No. 50!

Not convinced that I’m not town? QwQ

11:26

Wait

11:26

Not convinced that I am town?

That CC with pixel

11:27

That I keep asking for

11:27

I never got added to it.

You did?

11:27

I specifically asked pixel to add you

Oh that's the CC?

11:28

There has to be another one

11:28

This isn't CC meta

I don’t have another with him I’m telling you

I'm just anxious because Pixel mentioned he knows who the other wolf was, and has already been strategizing

I can add you back to every cc I have

Don't

Yes I hear you

That's literally CC meta

I don’t have another cc with them

I'm trying to get things around without resorting to that

11:30

Well

11:30

For now, don't react too positively

11:30

I told coal I sus you being Howling Wolf and clarified Heir mechanics with them

11:30

That might be why I'm not dead

Right

11:30

Thank you

If Coal killed me, that'd be two undead plus one mayor vote

11:31

Against wolf and town

Right

11:31

But in the situation of two against one does it matter?

And obviously both town and undead will gang up on wolf

Yes

Ghost haunting No. 50

But in the situation of two against one does it matter?

Coal doesn't think I'm still on your side

11:32

And honestly I am not

11:32

I'm 51% trusting you

Great :/

I want coal to keep heir on me

Can coal heir themselves

Then I vote snipe later

11:32

They cannot

Then it’s gg?

Thus they need a town that will mislynch

11:33

Which is the role I took up

Even without heir they cannot outvote

11:33

You can go to sleep without having to be here for phase change?

Nope

11:33

Because my vote is on you

11:33

Your vote is on coal

11:34

And coal will vote against you too

I guess we wait

Not for me

11:34

My job, as I said

11:34

Is to NAP

11:34

So that I can be awake for phase change

But genuinely, I dunno how to convince you that I am town

11:34

Yeah

If I don't nap I'll be too sleepy to be online at 5 AM (edited)

QwQ don’t destroy your sleeping schedule for wwr

11:35

Ok

11:35

I trust you though

For the meantime

11:35

Try to convince me that you're town

11:35

But do it in town square

11:35

Let Coal see it

11:36

I do expect actual arguments though because like I said I only trust you 51%

11:36

This is the final day

11:36

We literally can't tie

11:37

Also I demoted you so that you don't try adding coal here to sway them to your side

11:37

By the way

11:37

The reason for why 51% instead of 50%

No point in adding coal here in any case?

11:38

Mhm

Is because no one jumped to claim against the public claim list

11:38

It means at the very least, all the claims are as they claim

11:38

Which means you didn't switch up claims in hopes of a mislynch

I wouldn’t do that anyway

That's why 1%

If you want to look at the role list, all of town’s important roles died early which is why we didn’t get claims

Ghost haunting No. 50

No point in adding coal here in any case?

Adding coal here would allow a scum ghost to get coal to vote "undead" Herald out

11:40

I'm just covering my bases

I 100% believe that you are herald

11:40

There is no doubt about it

My argument to coal why you're scummy is you wouldn't give me Reporter for a double check

You proved yourself via the vampire lynch and since then every wolf kill has been recorded

11:41

Mm fair

Ghost haunting No. 50

You proved yourself via the vampire lynch and since then every wolf kill has been recorded

The check that got us scolded

For?

#information

Oh

11:42

Yeah

Me being early

11:42

Imagine my chills when at 5:10 AM I saw you kick me out the cc

But that aside, there was no reason for you to know that it was vampire

11:43

I can imagine

11:43

Cause at that time I didn’t know to trust you or Luffy

Oh also dont vote me mayor

11:44

Vote yourself

You had no way of knowing that vampire had died at that point

11:44

Chef was something that you could have based the call on, but it could’ve equally been undead

11:45

It would’ve been a 50/50

Here's the crux of the inequality between our trusts

11:45

You trust me 100% as Herald

11:45

I trust you 100% as Reporter

11:45

But that doesn't mean I trust you 100% as Town Reporter

11:45

It's literally unconfirmable

Mhm

The fact you stayed alive this entire time too

Coal and I are both dv claims after all

There is no reason for wolves not to kill Reporter

11:46

Bass was a DV claim too

Oh yeah I agree

11:46

And I admit that I made a mistake lynching bass

I like to think my bait actually worked and Time died instead of you because of me

They were dv

Ghost haunting No. 50

They were dv

You don't even need me to confirm, Howling Wolf did not die

I know

The fact all your reporter results coincide with my Herald checks too works out to your favor

But then that doesn’t cover all the other deaths that have followed

11:48

The fact I’m live is against me

11:48

Alive*

The logic I guess is

11:48

Pixel is Undead Guardian

11:48

Killing me just adds Undead

11:48

Killing you means wasted kill because Guardian protection

11:48

Therefore kill Pixel

Makes sense

11:49

But what of the other perspective

I guess coal forgot Pixel was Mayor too

What if I was wolf figuring out who to kill? Why pixel then

Ghost haunting No. 50

But what of the other perspective

If you delivered the kill: You don't want Pixel to guard me, and there's no reason to guard you, hence you did not give an order You want me who's a faithful doggy to vote with you You already know we know Pixel is Undead, and that Coal is sus You can't kill Coal (your counterclaim) You can't kill me (Undead risk) Therefore you kill Pixel (edited)

I think that killing my counterclaim isn’t such a bad idea

It is

11:51

Because I'd know

11:51

I have DV on Herald

But it’s not a matter of if I can fool you though

11:52

I just need pixel to vote against ‘wolf’ for undead to win

Wolf, town, undead would be left

If I was wolf, I kill my counterclaim with pixel having double vote as mayor

11:53

Next day I try to convince them you are wolf and lynch you

The issue is if wolf votes town out, undead dies immediately the night after

I’m aware

11:53

But pixel doesn’t know who is wolf and who is town

He would

11:53

I have been straight up Herald

11:53

You're Reporter that doesn't directly correlate to being Town

11:54

You can be a wolf Reporter

11:54

But I can't be a wolf Herald

Mm that’s true

11:54

Ok

11:55

Yeah that makes sense

Why didn't you give up Reporter btw

11:55

If neither of us dies all it does is make one night check delayed

11:56

N2 - someone dies, you gave up Reporter so you don't know D2 - I get Reporter, I see who died last night and the lynch today

11:56

The time was perfect right after Guardian was elected too

11:56

Because Guardian is the last of the elected roles and we don't have to hold up Reporter any longer

Cause I wanted the night check to see who died to decide who the lynch would be the next day

11:58

I should have in retrospect to get your trust

But that's what I'm there for...

But then also I was thinking that you would already get some info from being herald

11:58

It would be nice to have extra info

11:58

That and the fact that you can turn undead

I plan on resigning after checking

11:59

So we just vote you again next day (edited)

It wouldn’t have mattered either way at that point cause you had the role list

11:59

Yeah

In the end the only one that resigned

12:00

...is Town DV Bass...

Was guardian

12:00

I truly don’t understand why bass was uncooperative

12:00

Oh well

"So people will adjust to my playstyle for next time" Why not YOU adjust your playstyle it's irritating to have uncooperative town

12:02

Why did you even give it to Bass

12:02

If he was unconfirmed to the point you were willing to lynch him

12:06

Oh

12:06

That's one more point against you

12:06

Wolf Ghost would have wanted someone else as Guardian to kill freely

12:07

So you got Bass lynched after

12:07

And Pixel died after too

.,.

12:15

I’m definitely keeping bass’s play style in mind for next time

12:15

I chose to elect bass cause coal already had monarch at that time

12:16

I hadn’t checked how monarch worked so I assumed that giving coal monarch and guardian was too much

12:16

Town not having guardian at that point just meant that they weren’t being protected at night

12:17

It was only a net positive that was missed out on

12:17

I then became genuinely suspicious of bass cause they wouldn’t clearly say who was being protected at night

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