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This channel is for dead participants and spectators. A complete role list can be found at the top of this channel.

this game has many powerful cciv strats and im curious if we will see any

Players | Total: 18

17:51

yes

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AuraTeller

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- @Yuki Begrudgington (Aura Teller) yes

yes

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FortuneApprentice

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- @Captain Drafted (Fortune Apprentice) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Cookie Dreadwaters (Citizen) yes

yes

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Psychopath

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thight

- @Swur 'Not Again' Tel (Psychopath) yes

yes

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Recluse

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‍⬛ - @Basil 'Why Me' C. (Recluse) yes

yes

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Priest

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- @Emkay Forceme (Priest) yes

yes

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WhiteWerewolf

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- @Charlotte C. Burntout (White Werewolf) yes

yes

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Cleric

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- @Chopper D. Drafted (Cleric) yes

yes

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PsychicWolf

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- @Dan S. Assigned (Psychic Wolf) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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- @Chimera Shrimplain (Scared Wolf) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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- @V. Byrdson Dutycall (Scared Wolf) yes

yes

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Cleric

| ✨ - @Parker Reluctance (Cleric) yes

yes

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SneakingWolf

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- @Jean D. Unwilling (Sneaking Wolf) yes

yes

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AlphaWolf

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- @Lyle P. Overworked (Alpha Wolf) yes

yes

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CursedCivilian

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- @T. I. Mennow (Cursed Civilian) yes

yes

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Assassin

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- @Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire (Assassin) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish (Citizen) yes

yes

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CursedCivilian

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yeen

- @Kali M. Hostalysis (Cursed Civilian) (edited)

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lmao i actually got em to kill me

10:01

oh it was just random

10:03

well it works out like i wanted anyways! im the best town death i believe and now i can solely focus on exams

Yes, Citizen death is the best. It closes off claim-space and lets PRs live. Only second to UA/Solo death.

yeah

11:32

thats why i was kinda trying to act like a cciv but then people were talking about wolves not killing cciv and got worried

11:32

good thing bot has my back

Wolfpack think Psychopath is UA and Recluse is Priest/Assassin

13:49

Nvm Light clocked it.

13:49

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1379789180116402218

13:50

Wolves are kinda good.

I cooked

lmao

18:03

made chimi confirmed congrats

18:03

idk why im rooting for pack im town

Cookie Dreadwaters

made chimi confirmed congrats

She got me killed

18:04

No one was on my till her

18:04

It's fine I cooked

lets see if they realise recluse does mot get names

18:05

there we go

What do you mean?

people thought ypu saying chimi is at makes them confirmed

18:06

but recluse wouldnt know it was chimi (edited)

18:06

cause they dont get the name of non pack investor

18:06

only of pack

18:06

and why would they put pack on the spot

18:08

is yuki soft claiming now????

Cookie Dreadwaters

but recluse wouldnt know it was chimi (edited)

They focus on me so it's a good read to make

18:09

I can soft put chimi arua

no cc smh

I cooked

18:17

Wolf should win now

Just got done reading everything game state looks really good for how I left it

claiming at to wolf is a weirdly strong play

It's a 1-for-1 that isn't really worth it usually imo, but with Apprentice it actually works somewhat well.

yeah it would be bad without apprentice

18:58

but the question here is if killing AT is even worth it at this point

Yeah, looks like they CC it.

18:59

ctc, whatever

but ctcing is weird in this situation as well

19:00

real at wouldn't know they have to ctc

Yes. Has to be natural. Like, I checked you, Kal etc.

Pp kamikaze me

Werewolves Bot B

yes

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AuraTeller

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- @Yuki Begrudgington (Aura Teller) yes

yes

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FortuneApprentice

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- @Captain Drafted (Fortune Apprentice) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Cookie Dreadwaters (Citizen) yes

yes

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Psychopath

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thight

- @Swur 'Not Again' Tel (Psychopath) yes

yes

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Recluse

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‍⬛ - @Basil 'Why Me' C. (Recluse) yes

yes

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Priest

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- @Emkay Forceme (Priest) yes

yes

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WhiteWerewolf

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- @Charlotte C. Burntout (White Werewolf) yes

yes

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Cleric

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- @Chopper D. Drafted (Cleric) yes

yes

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PsychicWolf

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- @Dan S. Assigned (Psychic Wolf) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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- @Chimera Shrimplain (Scared Wolf) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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- @V. Byrdson Dutycall (Scared Wolf) yes

yes

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Cleric

| ✨ - @Parker Reluctance (Cleric) yes

yes

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SneakingWolf

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- @Jean D. Unwilling (Sneaking Wolf) yes

yes

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AlphaWolf

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- @Lyle P. Overworked (Alpha Wolf) yes

yes

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CursedCivilian

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- @T. I. Mennow (Cursed Civilian) yes

yes

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Assassin

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- @Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire (Assassin) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish (Citizen) yes

yes

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CursedCivilian

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yeen

- @Kali M. Hostalysis (Cursed Civilian) (edited)

Oh wow

10:23

10:27

My slot got turned as well Yeahh epic...!

I’m dead

Bass why did you reveal chimi lmaoo

Hey hosts why are me and kal on the polls? Is that a bug? @Host

13:13

Also seems like stein is missing?

Excellent question.

13:25

I will defer bot questions to Ts.

Dan S. Assigned

Hey hosts why are me and kal on the polls? Is that a bug? @Host

You were manually killed (bot didn't kill you automatically fsr). Kal was subbed with Stein, probably that happened right after phase change or something.

13:26

This is the first fully-automated game we've run, so some things are prone to being wonky, I suppose.

Ahh okay makes sense, just figured I’d flag it since it may mess with things

Dan S. Assigned

Hey hosts why are me and kal on the polls? Is that a bug? @Host

Cause kal was subbed and stein turned wolf You were manually killed after poll creation

Can I be manually unkilled? I wanna play more

I love spectating coal he’s in a permanent crash out state

Should have signed up as a sub by seams of it...

Yes, oh well.

so many sub requests

16:21

truly a ship of theseus moment

I can take a proper read at the game now yippi

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Yeah figures, chaos ensues

17:08

Everyone wants to sub

Sub now!! (Red button)

17:09

Studying time

Why doesn’t coal know his win condition

I’m dead

Hey wolfies

:(

18:01

none of that "wolves are op" bs

Coal shot me last night

we had an insanely tough time

18:01

COAL WHYYYY

Lmao

I knew coal was www

that was insanely stupid of him why didnt he listen

So early

‍♂️

18:02

If coal didn’t kill me the snipe would have worked

18:02

So sad

Yea

18:02

It was a bad idea to kill you

18:02

We would’ve had majority

Yep

if coal didnt kill you we wouldve gotten this

18:02

aghhh

It’s fine this is a clear wolf loss

i kept telling www to not kill

Yeah

it was the only way he couldve possibly won

It’s cooked now 3 wolves plus packless are gone

www killing lost us the game

Yea it’s over

18:03

If www didn’t kill we would’ve had majority

it feels so unfair

Another loss for the books

I just want my first win

psycho siding with town and www throwing their own game away

18:03

we were such a strong team too

Yeah the solos stacked against us

18:04

Not much we could have done

18:04

Idk we got screwed

18:04

Also bass outing chimi lol

im really salty at www throwing their win away and also getting us

18:04

bass outing chimi was bad

Bass really shouldn’t have put my name out there

18:04

For no reason too

Yeah

18:04

Unfortunate

Www shouldn’t have killed

18:05

It wouldn’t been an amazing game

18:05

Would’ve

This game could have been so fun

Tbf I was on coal

i was having fun

Chimera Shrimplain

Tbf I was on coal

We can’t really do much about it, especially because of scw ability

we couldve easily won this

100%

stacked team, good odds (edited)

We can kill him twice

if only www had listened

Chimera Shrimplain

We can kill him twice

We can but it’s a two night commitment so it’s tough especially when tks are out there

We would’ve controlled lunch

18:06

Lynch

V. Byrdson Dutycall

if only www had listened

Fr

We can deal with www later after killing all the tk

Yeah

Oh well

He also didn’t know his win condition, maybe it would’ve changed his decisions

Could’ve been an easy win

Dan S. Assigned

He also didn’t know his win condition, maybe it would’ve changed his decisions

ugh

18:08

we pinged him and everything

18:09

this wouldve been such an easy win even with the chimi thing

18:09

tho i do think its funny town has like no lead

18:09

luffy is trying but people actually think for themselves

Having no town lead can be problematic but can also stop bad actors getting the control they need, as long as there is clear lynch targets (edited)

having no town lead is great for literally everyone dead rn

18:11

we couldve made it

18:11

but www thought it had to kill only wolves

That’s the problem ..

18:12

If he knew the win con last night he wouldn’t have killed

18:12

This could’ve been my first win so easily

V. Byrdson Dutycall

but www thought it had to kill only wolves

ah ye that is not amazing...

That’s why you gotta read the role description!!!

TBF even i have fallen victim to thinking i know a role but don't

lol I mean we almost sniped thinking mayor has double votes

Chimera Shrimplain

lol I mean we almost sniped thinking mayor has double votes

even you saying this made me double check the description, because i did not know it changed

if only he knew

18:15

aghhh

18:15

is this an issue with clarification or is coal stupid

Issue of assumptions i think, did the WWW (like a while ago) not used to be able to only kill pack

No it’s clear

oh wait ye, i think this is a coal issue

18:17

;solo

I mean I guess we can add a sentence saying they must win alone or with UA

i forgot if that brought up the solo description

18:17

The White Werewolf is a werewolf who is not satisfied with merely killing the townsfolk; they must kill all the werewolves as well.

18:17

first line says kill the town and wolves...

It does

18:18

And if you check it on the website its even clearer...

18:19

though #typo should be "are dead"

They win when everyone else, excluding unaligned players, is dead

ypure kidding???? 4/6 on the psycho list was wolves and we killed one of the town n1???

18:20

holy SHIT

18:20

thats insanely bad luck

18:20

of course swurtle sides with town

18:21

we were doing so insanely well as wolf team

Yeah, that was an unlucky coincidence.

im so sad my one game i had time and motivation to play was so bad

18:22

and i couldnt do anything about it

18:22

its not like i played bad

18:22

its not like town found us through good plays or anything

18:22

only yuki can be credited here

Jordan

though #typo should be "are dead"

They win when everyone else, excluding unaligned players, is dead

trying to find this typo in code/ docs, and its been a while since i look at the WWR repos (edited)

pkr was doing well

18:22

luffy was doing jackshit and was lucky to ping first aghhh

18:27

im so salty bc town wasnt good

18:27

www and ua carried them

18:27

without them, town would be losing big time bc nobody did anything

18:27

pkr tried

Both scared wolves died

18:34

Thats insane

V. Byrdson Dutycall

without them, town would be losing big time bc nobody did anything

Stares

hey you are wolf

18:35

:)

No

18:35

Stein is wolf

yup

18:35

nope

Yeen is busy

you were

No i was town during my whole time

before you subbed out

18:36

you were subbed out after you turned wolf

18:36

but claiming fa and taking town lead as cciv was seriously stupid lol

18:36

what did you think was gonna happen? we let the guy who might be trusted/claimed to live?

V. Byrdson Dutycall

but claiming fa and taking town lead as cciv was seriously stupid lol

Nobody was doing anything and it was going to work!!

18:36

with reverse psychology

18:36

Until luffy happened

Kali M. Hostalysis

Nobody was doing anything and it was going to work!!

was it?

V. Byrdson Dutycall

was it?

Yes

18:37

To my knowledge at least

18:37

I haven't read so deep

as far as i can tell, nobody in town wouldve done anything of interest

V. Byrdson Dutycall

as far as i can tell, nobody in town wouldve done anything of interest

Oh it was

18:37

By the morning

no assassin claim to kill

18:37

priest shooting swurtle, sure

18:37

it was www who fucked us over

Since you were going up for lynch by morning, killing chimi by extension

18:38

Which also killed dan

18:38

(But dan died)

18:38

Which cleared yuki

Kali M. Hostalysis

Since you were going up for lynch by morning, killing chimi by extension

well if dan hadnt died we wouldve sniped:)

And with repo results could have yielded luffy town

18:38

meowww

you wouldve lost your town lead, info and you wouldnt have repo

18:38

bc we wouldve sniped repo

18:39

easily

I did have some blind faith in you assassin but it was moreso hopium because it helped a lot

there were little votes on swurtle

V. Byrdson Dutycall

you wouldve lost your town lead, info and you wouldnt have repo

You underestimate unctced claim

?

18:39

the at? dan alive wouldve fixed that

If luffy didnt ctc my claim was not contested

your fa? ctced by luffy and retracted by you, who wouldve been wolf and working with us

Kali M. Hostalysis

If luffy didnt ctc my claim was not contested

yea that wouldve been ideal

Yeah im speaking if the ctc did not happen

we were gonna kill you in every single situation that night

V. Byrdson Dutycall

we were gonna kill you in every single situation that night

Whuh

so if www wasnt illiterate, we wouldve won with all your info on our side

18:41

yuki wouldve been ctced, you wouldve been un ctced on our side

18:41

we were stacked until www came along

I didn't know www affected game this much

18:42

otherwise i would have been aggressive²

18:42

I have learnt stuff for the future!!

www killing a wolf handed a game to town

V. Byrdson Dutycall

so if www wasnt illiterate, we wouldve won with all your info on our side

I mean www had to kill someone tonight anyway

i need all the town to know this wasnt their doing

18:43

it was www and ua

Theres no reason to allow wolves to snowball, but i agree causing the death of 2 is one too many

Kali M. Hostalysis

I mean www had to kill someone tonight anyway

www doesnt need to kill

V. Byrdson Dutycall

it was www and ua

no we controlled ua hiiii

ok

18:44

then it was just www

V. Byrdson Dutycall

www doesnt need to kill

I mean

18:44

In their pov

18:44

Swurtle is getting watered

without www we wouldve sniped

And assassin claims could just be fearmongering

Kali M. Hostalysis

In their pov

you have to understand that www misread their role

It is a very wolf sided list in the eyes of the wwww

they thought they only needed wolves dead

V. Byrdson Dutycall

you have to understand that www misread their role

wait what

V. Byrdson Dutycall

they thought they only needed wolves dead

18:45

Link me to the messsa ge

18:45

Thats so fucking funny

www can only live if wolves are doing well

18:45

bc on its own, www cant get rid of town quickly enough

18:45

if wolves are doing bad, www will also do bad bc of that same reason

18:46

it needs to get rid of town quicker than it needs to get rid of wolves

V. Byrdson Dutycall

none of that "wolves are op" bs

I was starting to be gaslit into believing it for a moment at the start

V. Byrdson Dutycall

it needs to get rid of town quicker than it needs to get rid of wolves

Yesbbut if wolves snowball then

18:46

Www can't stop that

killing this early, especially with a priest AND assassin, town will kill wolves and thus www quicker than wolves can kill town

Kali M. Hostalysis

Yesbbut if wolves snowball then

you can use the word snowball all you want but it wont make me understand it any quicker tbh

V. Byrdson Dutycall

killing this early, especially with a priest AND assassin, town will kill wolves and thus www quicker than wolves can kill town

Tbf I think they banked more on the 3 scared wolevs soaking hits

Thomas Sufferwell

I was starting to be gaslit into believing it for a moment at the start

uh yea i think this list was honestly so well balanced

But yeah whatever happened with reading comprehension

V. Byrdson Dutycall

you can use the word snowball all you want but it wont make me understand it any quicker tbh

Have vote majority that is not counterable

the fact that the reason we lost was just poor psychopath list misfortune

V. Byrdson Dutycall

www killing a wolf handed a game to town

www should've attacked a likely scw, probably

Kali M. Hostalysis

Have vote majority that is not counterable

thats the moment www can start killing

18:48

when theres a vote majority

Thomas Sufferwell

www should've attacked a likely scw, probably

he almost attacked me!

18:48

shouldve stayed on it

V. Byrdson Dutycall

when theres a vote majority

no, I disagree

18:48

that's too late

^

uh fair

waiting until this night could have made sense

but as scared wolf i think www should start killing at vote majority :)

or going for likely scw targets

Www cant fend off lynch + wolf killrate

this night wouldve gotten us in a better position

scws are good targets - if they get TKed they'll be revealed as scum anyway

18:49

so the defense doesnt do all that much

Now sunny is here

18:49

Damn

18:49

Where was he before the snipe

but it lets www go for a second kill, eventually

thight

www killed too early

18:49

and it ruined it for wolves

18:49

worst part is that we were really trying

18:49

arch got trusted

18:49

stein is doing well

If sunny was here we would’ve sniped realsad

realsad

realsad

i was defending for my life, i hope it was good :/

Life is not fair

im actually kinda confused how town got two wolves

pensivegayblob

I am not caught up

i feel like its almost meta how easily luffy and swurtle always trust eachother

Hmm

Thomas Sufferwell

im actually kinda confused how town got two wolves

swurtle outed me

swurtle just.... doesnt lie

18:51

very well

18:51

so its easy to tell

Bass outted me while he doesn’t even know

and our psychic died without at ctc so yuki was confirmed

But like technically there’s a misplay there

oooh

This is horrible

wait but how did claim collecting

Www shouldn’t have killed

Thomas Sufferwell

swurtle just.... doesnt lie

i genuinely am thinking of what jay said about letting swurtle watch instead of play

Yes idk it’s hard to play with Swurtle

bc swurtle is a liability in every single game

yeah

Thomas Sufferwell

im actually kinda confused how town got two wolves

I had laid down check vera

i dont enjoy playing games with her much

Chimi was tied with swurtle for the slot as confirming one or the other was lying

you know something gets leaked or she trusts someone shes friends with blindly (edited)

Same with dan but dan died

I’m just salty that sunny wasn’t here for Pc

18:53

I can’t get over it realsad

realsad

Chimera Shrimplain

I’m just salty that sunny wasn’t here for Pc

Sunny: ✌️

But tbh coal prob wouldn’t sniped with us

18:53

So it’d be stupid

18:54

Coal doesn’t know his win con its just unfortunate

if he knew his wincon he mightve

18:54

its frustrating bc we were in a decent position too

Yea great position actually

but it all boils down to coals illiteracy

With Kal being cursed

18:54

Lmao

thing is I do think at night the www kill wasn't all that bad

It’s just bad timing

it really was tho

like now in hindsight its awful

For how things were going

Again i thibk this list was very wolf sided

Because we were struggling

18:55

It was but unfortunate things kept happening

it got our at ctc, lost us the votes needed for sniping

18:55

aghh

I will die on this hill

yeah the choice was bad

18:55

but I think www attacking was not the wrong call

18:55

the target however was

Www didn’t kill gets us the majority

Kali M. Hostalysis

Again i thibk this list was very wolf sided

you are horribly wrong about this, its actually really well balanced but people arent good at leading town if theres no obvious public claim

thight

18:56

Or sunny being on time

18:56

For pc

18:56

Or arch didn’t sub out

they see no obvious public claim and think its wolfsided

Until after the pc

V. Byrdson Dutycall

you are horribly wrong about this, its actually really well balanced but people arent good at leading town if theres no obvious public claim

Yes i ammounted town win to tt

18:56

And nobody was making moves

Either way it’s horrible

So like

this is so sad

I felt funky

We could’ve done it realsad

realsad

18:56

That’s the saddest part

18:57

Nothing was aligned for us

we couldve easily done it

It’s just meant to be

L

in a well balanced list, if nobody does anything of note I expect wolves to win btw

even in this situaion?

Thomas Sufferwell

in a well balanced list, if nobody does anything of note I expect wolves to win btw

That was what was going to happen

they do trust arch

town always will need to have players doing good play to win

Funny how my roll the first night was Kal

18:57

Should’ve attacked Kal lmao

Lmao did www throw the game?

Yea

nope

But you did cause me to die

18:58

So

Wait

Www shouldn’t have killed

www didnt throw but got us into a really bad position

@Chimera Shrimplain did u actually check chimi

We were in a bad position

18:58

Huh

Once again, not killing as www is simply wrong imo

No I didn’t

Did u actually chrck bass

Thomas Sufferwell

Once again, not killing as www is simply wrong imo

^^^^^^^

I’m scared I can’t check bass

oh sure they need to kill

Chimera Shrimplain

But you did cause me to die

I don't

care

In this list with 3 scws especially

but damn he couldve waited a day

Yea they can check

It was just the worst targets for wolves

You push for me

or attack a scw

Idk (edited)

18:58

It’s just shit

Yeah I think a scw is optimal

getting psychic out was such a mistake

It’s just bad

Ok moral of the story everyone missplayed and now everyone is eating shit for it

it got yuki confirmed and chimi lynched

It does the least damage to wolves while still using the role as much as possible

Town and wolves alike

18:59

While swurtle dances

18:59

As she gets repo

Im not sure if www knew that dan was psyw/at claim

18:59

if they did it was a misplay

Well all of this was salvageable

i want swurtle to lose, i dont think she deserves this win

18:59

she immediately went to town

Why wasn’t sunny there at Pc

no

18:59

I like swurtle

18:59

She was my only friend in my huge crashout

it feels disgusting towards how people see ua

Backoff.....

18:59

thight

Kali M. Hostalysis

Ok moral of the story everyone missplayed and now everyone is eating shit for it

Nothing I could have done actually realsad

realsad

If sunny was there ..

19:00

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Nothing I could have done actually realsad

realsad

True

You literally throw my name out whatever can you do bass

its just fish left, right?

19:00

from town

Maybe just don’t throw my name out

yup :(

thight

so if wolves kill fish swurtle wins

this is so terribly undeservings

Chimera Shrimplain

Maybe just don’t throw my name out

Did u actually

19:00

Check

Thomas Sufferwell

so if wolves kill fish swurtle wins

arch too btw

No

Bass

I didn’t

well sunny now

Oh

19:00

Oh LMAO

Chimera Shrimplain

You literally throw my name out whatever can you do bass

You looked town because you pushed for me @Chimera Shrimplain @Chimera Shrimplain

ok

V. Byrdson Dutycall

arch too btw

isnt arch wolf? (edited)

Thats

And ???

So FUCKED

You're fault

Thomas Sufferwell

isnt arch wolf? (edited)

Yeah

19:00

But they sus arch

19:00

As snw

yea but arch is being seen as town rn

You didn’t consider that I could be a wolf

?

bc of me not being wolf, idk why

Idk

thight

oh huh

yeah but if you're expecting a swurtle supported town win then its only fish that matters

V. Byrdson Dutycall

bc of me not being wolf, idk why

Because swurtle said so actually

19:01

Its so funny

Idk

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Duo color

Chimera Shrimplain

You didn’t consider that I could be a wolf

No because my tell is more clear then you'resv!!!!!!!

town cannot kill fish themselves to help swurtle as it would be throwing

im so mad at her townsidig

V. Byrdson Dutycall

fuck off swurtle

Nah

The saddest thing is that the stars are aligned for us

like of course she sides with luffy

19:01

she always sides with luffy

V. Byrdson Dutycall

im so mad at her townsidig

Well info is townsided

19:01

Really

Aren’t **

its meta

No she sided with me

19:01

First

If the stars aligned

Actually

We’d win

She was gonna believe you over me

realsad

realsad

Which was crazy

swurtle sides with everyone who talks to her, lets be real

She cced me first just cuz ??? But i appreciated it

its stupid and i really wanna ban swurtle from playing bc of these recent games

Point is I could do anything I didn't get to play the game

I wish we can do something about this sniping thing

Metabanning new game perfect play

19:02

/j

Chimera Shrimplain

I wish we can do something about this sniping thing

wdym?

Like find a way to delay voting

19:02

Idk lmao

V. Byrdson Dutycall

its stupid and i really wanna ban swurtle from playing bc of these recent games

She shouldn't have traded one of her one in publicly gone to try to get me correct??

Just thinking it’s so hard to get everyone online

19:03

But that is part of the game

Chimera Shrimplain

Like find a way to delay voting

Anonymous votes towards ends of polls

sniping is bad

19:03

was there a snipe?

I just wish sunny was there

Basil 'Why Me' C.

She shouldn't have traded one of her one in publicly gone to try to get me correct??

what are you saying

We tried

19:03

Sunny wasn’t there

Thomas Sufferwell

was there a snipe?

we wanted to but didnt have the numbers

V. Byrdson Dutycall

what are you saying

I'm saying night one revealed to me in order to get rid of me but revealed herself

what

Basil 'Why Me' C.

She shouldn't have traded one of her one in publicly gone to try to get me correct??

Uhm she can actually

That's not playing well

We would’ve if sunny was there but he wasn’t so

Shes psycho and ua

can you form a comprehensive legible sentence?

Since town wants to work with psycho apparently

Kali M. Hostalysis

Uhm she can actually

No it's bad play

I mean psycho can do that

V. Byrdson Dutycall

can you form a comprehensive legible sentence?

No use your head

Actually bass i thought u were psycho anf i thought psycho was lynchable

Basil 'Why Me' C.

She shouldn't have traded one of her one in publicly gone to try to get me correct??

im having a genuinely hard time understanding this

We should’ve killed Swurtle but converting Kal was so important

V. Byrdson Dutycall

im having a genuinely hard time understanding this

Scum

I do think sniping is bad and should be avoided. Usually this should be through making sure everyone is active and can place their vote and avoiding things such as the devil situation

Basil 'Why Me' C.

No use your head

no reason to be mean, im genuinely struggling to understand you

V. Byrdson Dutycall

no reason to be mean, im genuinely struggling to understand you

Trading scum for scum

Kali M. Hostalysis

Actually bass i thought u were psycho anf i thought psycho was lynchable

It's fine game is bad my roll was not fun it's okey dokey

Yea well it was unexpected this pc works horrible for me

Just that in this case it doesnt matter cuz psycho helps town and recluse is just bad

Basil 'Why Me' C.

It's fine game is bad my roll was not fun it's okey dokey

Yeah

Bass you can’t play bad jsut because you don’t like the role

19:05

I don’t like that

I felt a bit sorry since You had all the scum tells

You should play just as well

And i remembered last game

thight

V. Byrdson Dutycall

no reason to be mean, im genuinely struggling to understand you

Oh sorry I thought you were sassing me realsad

realsad

But like

19:05

It’s ok Kal you’re wolves now

19:05

So it is what it is

no

19:05

Im not wolf

Chimera Shrimplain

Bass you can’t play bad jsut because you don’t like the role

I didn't play bad???

You are

Nvm i am

You just do the thing where you’re not playing properly

19:06

Saying you don’t like the role and stuff

@Chimera Shrimplain I had now way of knowing who you were

Like we all get random roles

19:06

That’s the point realsad

realsad

realsad

so don’t say my name

Chimera Shrimplain

That’s the point realsad

realsad

realsad

so don’t say my name

No I believe that you are on town team so I was trying to make a play for Wolf

realsad

I also said light was wolf

It’s whatever I just think everything that went wrong went wrong

19:07

But it’s ok it happens

I turned heat on to my team members because all of my team members were trying to get me killed But that never should have happened because my teammates should have known when I was based off of my tell @Chimera Shrimplain @Chimera Shrimplain

We all kinda blindly went by it tbh

Basil 'Why Me' C.

I turned heat on to my team members because all of my team members were trying to get me killed But that never should have happened because my teammates should have known when I was based off of my tell @Chimera Shrimplain @Chimera Shrimplain

Oh

19:08

I think they did

Point is my team members misplayed

They were trying to

That’s not how it works

Move the lynch off you?

Yes it is

I noticed light was scummy and tryna lift it off you

Kali M. Hostalysis

Move the lynch off you?

No just don't publicly hop on top and try to push for me

Last time you were citizen in mafia and you did the same thing

19:08

How are we supposed to do

Basil 'Why Me' C.

No just don't publicly hop on top and try to push for me

Well

19:08

If they dont do that

I had multiple Town members voting for me to stay because I made a compelling case@Kali M. Hostalysis @Chimera Shrimplain All I need was some of my wolf teammates to hop in and I could have gotten off

Plus it’s a game

That just adds a scum point to themselves

19:09

Oh mt ga

You can’t get mad

19:09

Because we are not stoping the lynch

Basil 'Why Me' C.

I had multiple Town members voting for me to stay because I made a compelling case@Kali M. Hostalysis @Chimera Shrimplain All I need was some of my wolf teammates to hop in and I could have gotten off

It was more like PKR said a name randomly

Kali M. Hostalysis

That just adds a scum point to themselves

My biggest defenders were Town members it would have been fine

You’re playing a game and you’re part of a team

Chimera Shrimplain

Because we are not stoping the lynch

Because you don't see the vision

If I’m on the chopping block I’m not expecting my pack to die for me

Chimera Shrimplain

You’re playing a game and you’re part of a team

No no I'm not I'm not in the chat that you're in

That’s the point

Chimera Shrimplain

If I’m on the chopping block I’m not expecting my pack to die for me

Yeah it was the first day though I wasn't really on the chopping block people were just trying to push for it because they wanted to do something

No wolf members should come out and try to save you

19:10

You were

Don't make me crash out again

When Swurtle said your name you were on the chopping block

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Yeah it was the first day though I wasn't really on the chopping block people were just trying to push for it because they wanted to do something

Yeah

19:10

Get ccs

19:10

Personally my agenda was get ccs to get the ball rolling

Stop talking

Blame Swurtle don’t blame wolves man

No wolf fumbling

How?

19:11

How can we do anything

Also yeah swurtle was the first to send the flare

Could have lynched swertle

First of all we don’t know who you are

19:11

Second of all we can’t expose ourselves

Chimera Shrimplain

First of all we don’t know who you are

Yes you do I'm obvious

19:12

Forget it I'll just show you how it's done when I get back chat

No you can’t expect us to rely on reads bass!

Pack chat

19:12

I'll just show u

Ok sure

The matter of the current game state is too stagnant

19:12

Meta

They can't magically work out ur scum too

Sigh I just think it’s over for wolves more or less

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Ouuuu

Kali M. Hostalysis

They can't magically work out ur scum too

Ya they could that's why I was nominated in the first place

No we can’t

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Ya they could that's why I was nominated in the first place

Uhm but the one that checked u was swurtle who had u in their "has to kill" list???

Chimera Shrimplain

Sigh I just think it’s over for wolves more or less

Good let's go next game I'm tilted from the devil still anyway

Swurtle said your name

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And swurtle is unaligned aka fair game for everyone

Kali M. Hostalysis

Uhm but the one that checked u was swurtle who had u in their "has to kill" list???

No idea also I didn't even get to know Squirtle was the one who checked me I simply guessed because I don't get a name for who checks unless it's wealth

19:14

Wolf

Oh thats why u were calling everyone psychopath

19:14

realsad

Kali M. Hostalysis

Oh thats why u were calling everyone psychopath

Yeah but I pinged who the real psychopath was before my execution

19:15

Also TS was talking about how open scum shouldn't be able to win and here we have psychopath as open scum

19:15

Lmao

I hate how things went down

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Yeah but I pinged who the real psychopath was before my execution

How did u figure out it was swurtle?

UA isn’t necessarily scum

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Also TS was talking about how open scum shouldn't be able to win and here we have psychopath as open scum

Well

Kali M. Hostalysis

How did u figure out it was swurtle?

Sometimes I'm good at the game

I vaguely remember

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Also TS was talking about how open scum shouldn't be able to win and here we have psychopath as open scum

UA is not scum This is also bad

Something somethig

Thomas Sufferwell

UA is not scum This is also bad

What is bad

Preventing despot angel psycopath pity wins and the like

19:15

Something

Idk Swurtle is hard to play with

Psycho town siding too hard

Yeah

There is a decent chance wolves wont kill fish so swurtle just loses through this

Swurtle telling me arch was cit

19:16

Is

Thomas Sufferwell

There is a decent chance wolves wont kill fish so swurtle just loses through this

Yeah correct pushing for me day one was not the play

Too much

19:16

I appreciated it though

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Yeah correct pushing for me day one was not the play

Permenter really should have stopped her from doing that

19:16

Mentor

I did deduce swurtle losecon was get psycho list leaked

Yes well now wolves know fish is on it

swurtle also got lucky ocean did by random kill

God knows they will kill everyone else before fish

19:18

This is lame

19:18

Psycho going this hard on town side

19:18

Becoming a bigger liability

Chimera Shrimplain

Psycho going this hard on town side

Can the mentor get punished for not teaching her correctly

1

No

Sticker

We had hell last game we have hell 2 this game

Plus it’s a choice

19:18

Kinda

Kali M. Hostalysis

We had hell last game we have hell 2 this game

Gg

Everything is stacked against wolves

Can we demote this game as well

No? (edited)

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Can the mentor get punished for not teaching her correctly

gibagul

Nooo

Yep

Nah this game is perfectly fine objectively speaking

It’s ok I wanna finish this season so I can sign up to be mentor (edited)

19:19

Objectively yes

19:19

Luck wise no

Chimera Shrimplain

It’s ok I wanna finish this season so I can sign up to be mentor (edited)

Going to assign you to be permanently with Squirtle

It should also be noted that I don't think wolves did any strong plays during D1 while town did

I don’t mind

Thomas Sufferwell

It should also be noted that I don't think wolves did any strong plays during D1 while town did

Yippi

Thomas Sufferwell

It should also be noted that I don't think wolves did any strong plays during D1 while town did

I fond psychopath and got them to go public

That’s not really

But yeah it's cooked

Wolves saw "lmao we winning" and flopped like a toaster

Swurtle would’ve come out

Swurtle coming out has helped town as well

Basil 'Why Me' C.

I fond psychopath and got them to go public

Hum

19:20

Psycho being public

19:20

Is

19:20

Good

Good for town

U didnt help ur case cuz u confirmed u were recluse

Yea bass

Kali M. Hostalysis

U didnt help ur case cuz u confirmed u were recluse

It was over anyway everyone was voting for me nothing I could do

Chimera Shrimplain

Yea bass

Nothing would have changed it

You would have had plausible deniability as 'swurtle cloaked u as recluse and u were actually town'

Yea

So swurtle wouldnt be so hard trusted by town

Naw

19:21

I did that at first

It is what it is

I had to 11 votes on me

19:21

I do not care

19:21

Cooked

It would have eroded confidence in swurtle and perhaps would have made town not trust her so whpleheartedly

Naw

I should’ve just said I’m TK but pack told me to stick to my claim

I no no wanna

It is what it is

19:22

I was too lazy to fight for my life

My role was awful and no tilted form devil game

I haven’t felt super engaged in a game for a while

19:23

I just wanna mentor at this point

Chimera Shrimplain

I just wanna mentor at this point

Permanent Squirtle mentor regulations

19:23

Haha

19:23

Have fun

Chimera Shrimplain

I should’ve just said I’m TK but pack told me to stick to my claim

yup

Chimera Shrimplain

I should’ve just said I’m TK but pack told me to stick to my claim

You should

19:23

Jave

19:23

Like

19:23

That tied you to a dual clear

19:24

Since by the moment u claimed non-tk it was you vs yuki really

Pack generational fumble

19:24

Gg go next

Eh I think I should just trust my instincts next time I’m in pack

Can we have chill offseason "19 witches 1 scared wolf" game

Apologize later lol

AT claiming to wolf was a particularly strong play this time (edited)

Chimera Shrimplain

Eh I think I should just trust my instincts next time I’m in pack

Yep!!!!

Yes well

19:25

It’s mostly my fumble

19:25

When is this season over realsad

realsad

Rn actually

I’m not qualified to be mentor until it’s over

19:26

Really

IIRC ts said last game was gonna be season closer?

Let me be mentor realsad

realsad

But it was demoted

19:26

@Thomas Sufferwell ?

Ah yes

yup

19:26

this is the last seasonal game

Can I apply to be mentor now uglysmile

uglysmile

19:27

Is it off season after?

probably no os (edited)

Oh yay

19:27

Ok I’ll apply now

19:28

Done

19:28

I love teaching the younglings

19:28

Or Swurtle

"Or swurtle"

Also I’d say at getting on me so early is also terrible luck for wolves

Chimera Shrimplain

I love teaching the younglings

Shrimp my mentor confirmed?

20:06

Pog

You don’t need a mentor

Wait what pkr is getting assassin?

Did coal kill dansan because she thought psychic can see www? Thats so fucking dumb reading moment ong (edited)

21:34

Www cant be seen by anyone

Unpopular opinion, but had I been in Coal's shoes, I probably also would've killed given the info they had.

Yeah I agree

Of course had I been able to foresee a double ScW lynch, I probably would have holstered, lol.

Chimera Shrimplain

Wait what pkr is getting assassin?

Will confirm themselves if they action.

Chimera Shrimplain

Or Swurtle

unintenional(?) shade

Well based on your list I have to assume 50% are town At least So I can work off that

Brave to assume this given that the list was auto-generated by the bot.

love it when players do host meta on a bot randomization (edited)

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Of course had I been able to foresee a double ScW lynch, I probably would have holstered, lol.

I mean we had been saying the night before Chimi was likely to be lynched as well as Vera

23:00

We called it

23:00

Kal had a sus on both

Yea especially given that I was pretty cooked

23:20

I don’t know if it was the right idea (edited)

Jean D. Unwilling

I mean we had been saying the night before Chimi was likely to be lynched as well as Vera

This would make them good targets tbh

Coal getting cooked

02:00

Although mkay will die

02:01

Wrong deduction from Luffy

02:01

But it’s fine

i mean coal was checked as a threat

02:56

no way out there

Sigh

05:03

Rough game

at least coal should be lynched and stein knows hes www

Well, that’s awkward

why did pkr survive

10:19

im confused

10:19

ohhhh

10:19

cleric self prot

10:20

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395184856666152/1380431162094391368 isnt this too much info, consider assassin only get failure or success

10:20

at least thats what ive been told

10:22

gross luffy working for psycho

10:24

ah, cleric desx

10:24

cleric is too easy to confirm

10:24

its been done twice now

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395166389145621/1380195414212346056

12:02

that bad huh

Yeah

Yes, 4 people asked to be subbed in 14 hours.

Horrible game for wolves

13:15

If www hit someone else

im still very annoyed since the reasoning was that psychic can check her

13:37

thats a reading momen

Wolves are cooked right? Not much of a chance?

Sigh

14:12

He made the wrong choice with the limited info

14:12

I guess it is what it is

Jean D. Unwilling

im still very annoyed since the reasoning was that psychic can check her

yea the illiteracy on the whole role causing us all a loss is so frustrating

The entire wolf pack protection got wiped out

14:38

Two scw dead

Chimera Shrimplain

You don’t need a mentor

Why not

realsad

Basil 'Why Me' C.

Why not

realsad

You’re too good

Chimera Shrimplain

You’re too good

Cap no proof realsad

realsad

You need to believe in yourself

14:59

How much for a custom emoji?

Chimera Shrimplain

You need to believe in yourself

I'm just saying if we teamed up we could be the seafood platter special

Haha

15:01

Definitely

#substitute but an active player is better then inactive and every role played well is important...

Woah woah how is pkr not ded?

16:50

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1380496384062390345

16:50

Kali M. Hostalysis

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1380496384062390345

insane flag

16:51

hey kal how are you always dead when i drop by dead-spectators

Aleeeeeeeeex

hey kal how are you always dead when i drop by dead-spectators

I subbed

16:51

Stein is my sub i think?

Doesn’t luffy also trust stein though, who is a wolf?

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Doesn’t luffy also trust stein though, who is a wolf?

What

16:56

How!!!

Well that’s how I died

16:57

16:57

Was there new info that somehow helped light?

Emkay Forceme

Doesn’t luffy also trust stein though, who is a wolf?

didnt luffy just call a lynch on stein

16:58

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395170113425428/1380554437646352544

Why is pkr so obstuse too

16:59

Like some plausible discussion making is ok but sometimes going with the consensus as the game gets tighter is bettre

Aleeeeeeeeex

didnt luffy just call a lynch on stein

That’s good then

17:13

The fact that so much info might’ve been shared to stein is problematic, but at least they’re course correcting

Coal dying after destroying wolves

Oh god wolf pack is going wild

17:39

I think.. coal might’ve been too cold blooded

17:39

Oh

17:39

It’s stein that’s getting killed

17:39

.. sigh

17:40

Well at least tonight coal can take out light and it’s game over

17:41

I don’t understand www is playing like they are town

17:42

Is this normal

17:45

How’s empowering town and destroying wolf completely playing by www’s alignment (edited)

Bro yea

18:01

Www cant win without at least getting wolf majority

18:01

If they didnt kill dansan we wouldve had a better chance

Ridiculous realsad

realsad

Coal does realise if pack all die, they are next...

18:07

and like pack will die long before all of town is dead

We already warned her not to kill if priest + assassin are alive

Ye like town can win tonight if they play it right

18:08

or if not the last pack could very easily out them

Smh

So there is 2 pack left, town have an assassin who could hit one and then convince coal to kill the other one (which at this point is probably possible) then just lynch coal

Just reading the CC coal added the town trusted too... they fully know he is pack right, like aint not way someone goes "what kind of wolf are you" to someone unless you are both in pack trying to ID the WWW

18:21

then coal turning on stein just proves to town they are the WWW

18:24

and coal kills again

Chimera Shrimplain

How’s empowering town and destroying wolf completely playing by www’s alignment (edited)

With the information they had at the time it was fine to some exten

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Then it was fine

18:27

Now it’s just ridiculous

Stein flopped by being inac ???

18:27

Ok yea this is practically over

Coal is not doing good things

Www needs to understand that helping town at this point and decimating pack arent going to lead to a www win

But to be real it's over

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395325604659291/1380583115927322695

It is over

What the coal doing

18:28

Yeah this game is

18:28

Wrapped up

Coal throwing

Insane

Chimera Shrimplain

Coal throwing

Well

Well

18:29

No technically

Honestly they aren't wrong in believing the game is over

Throwing the towel in maybe

They can't lift this game

18:29

So ig it's fine atp

good season closer ig (edited)

@Thomas Sufferwell can i get some commentary on the reasoning of how the rolelist was balanced cuz i entirely missed the www dynamic causing so much chaos in wp

18:30

after game

our common process is to start with a solo

18:31

we picked www because I only just finished automating it before this game

Thomas Sufferwell

we picked www because I only just finished automating it before this game

Would this game have 'worked' www-less XD

no

18:32

I don't think the game didn't work

I didn't mean it that way

18:33

I meant it as it worked cuz, there wasn't the wolves being op thing

there were several parts to it but www was one

Discordant coordination in wp

we picked www first, then turtle created a first draft of Town (10) 2x TK 2x Citizen Werewolves (6) Alpha Wolf Disguised Fox WI 2x Scared Wolf Sneaking Wolf Solo (1) White Werewolf Unaligned (1) Psychopath

18:34

This was the base role list that we balanced the rest around

18:34

2x TK is a strong advantage so I wanted to counter balance by CCiv

18:34

but I also wanted more 2x roles so I went for CCiv x2

18:35

But at this point it becomes to wolf sided again so we balance it back by Cleric x2

18:35

Clerics can protect townies or cover ccivs from protections

....oooooohhhhh

www wants to be killing cciv wolves

That makes more sense

but does not want to / cannot kill the base wolves too easily

18:36

scw's (x3) are the obvious counter to the strong tks on town side

18:37

DF I got rid of in the second revision because I realized it is too easy to disguise as a not in play role

18:37

And easily get in contact with wp through that

18:37

with only AT on town side thats too strong of a strategy

Yeah at can very plainly just get misled

WWW playing to kill the pack by all means is what caused this role list to shift to pure town

Jordan

WWW playing to kill the pack by all means is what caused this role list to shift to pure town

The gaslighting worked

18:37

www should not have killed psyw/at claim

Yeah all things considered that was terrible

they absolutely could've gone for one of the scws to not waste their kill

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I now hold a lot of power

18:38

and also in the end the town strategies were all significantly stronger than anything wolves did

18:39

in the end it may have been better to keep despot rather than psychopath

Wolves were too affected by lack of coordination

18:39

I think the dual cciv claim showed that

Thomas Sufferwell

in the end it may have been better to keep despot rather than psychopath

Despot is more scum leaning vote but not psycho being a town vote+extra ti

Thomas Sufferwell

they absolutely could've gone for one of the scws to not waste their kill

They were about to go for Vera iirc.

im not sure if swurtle has any hope of winning at this point(?) (edited)

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

They were about to go for Vera iirc.

yup, would've been better

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

They were about to go for Vera iirc.

Why didnt they go for vera actually

they did initially

I didn't read that part

then they went for dansan because they realized they were basically wolf trusted

Thomas Sufferwell

im not sure if swurtle has any hope of winning at this point(?) (edited)

If they can gaslight hard enough

18:42

Swurtle holds the keys just needs to properly manipulate them for the next lynch maybe

Thomas Sufferwell

then they went for dansan because they realized they were basically wolf trusted

Is killing wolf trusted better

18:43

As www

they thought so

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1380587484848853103

18:43

The game is over

18:43

LMAO

yup

18:43

though tt still things chopper is AW

18:43

which is kind of incomprehensible to me

18:44

it is because time is taking chopper's slot

Pkr gaslit them

though I couldnt follow who they think is the second cciv

Enough

Thomas Sufferwell

though I couldnt follow who they think is the second cciv

They dont know my slot is cciv

oooh

Atm luffy thinks my slot was just wolf

ah

If swurtle plays her cards right she should lie here and say stein was not cciv

18:45

But some other wolf scum

18:45

I think

possibly

18:45

unclear what her best play is

To keep the chances of the cit claims dying hot instead of discarded

im not sure if fish is a suspect

Thomas Sufferwell

unclear what her best play is

It's more like what doesn't lock her out of play at this point

18:46

She has no good moves, just moves to hold the forth and cross fingers

18:46

tomorrow lynch has to be misslynch or she loses since town wins too fast

yeah

18:48

does time not realizes by joining TT as a different claim than he is he is obstructing town?

18:48

or is this a play to keep their options open if they become wolf

They are doing the later but ???

18:50

Funni fs

18:50

Oh yeah this is why the chopper case is solidified

yup

18:50

time is confirmed not threat

They believe time more as non-threat

18:50

And pkr is confirmed mechanically

18:50

So

18:51

Chopper is dying for that

18:51

Wolves wipe clean pretty much

19:01

The claim wasn’t organized properly because we couldn’t say our role

19:01

But tbh should’ve just done a claim organization based on player not role

19:03

Or each player think about what they wanna claim and tell pack

19:04

This is so silly

19:04

Www destroyed pack with all the bad luck and checks

19:05

Psychopath has almost the entire pack on their list

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379942171796574399/1380607861926920353

20:12

Rip swurtle

20:12

I don’t fully understand cciv. Like I get that you have to play for your alignment, but to what extent can you prepare for being turned?

You should prepare

20:29

In advance

20:29

Make sure you will be killed as fast as possible should it happen

20:30

But once you're Wolf you have to 180

You should do everything possible to help town win, play powerful at the start, get as much data as you can, then if you turn apply it against town

I did tha because nobody else was doing anything

20:31

What time is doing is hurting town because a tt is already established

You basically can't play town but keep things in reserve, assuming you will turn or even work with pack under the assumption they will turn you

One can deduce this is the 'time to kill based on info' for town so in every case it is detrimental

20:32

heyyy my play did at least make tt!!

Kali M. Hostalysis

What time is doing is hurting town because a tt is already established

Admittedly if they knew the truth they would not have added him to their main TT channel, as that is a risk they would not want to take unless necessary

Jordan

Admittedly if they knew the truth they would not have added him to their main TT channel, as that is a risk they would not want to take unless necessary

Correct

Yes, thus they are hurting town

But it would not result in chopper's death

yep

Which is a direct consequence

They're also knowingly letting another townie get killed

He would have lived actually

20:33

Both would have been ok, actually, LOL

So as a selfish play, it makes sense because they can have more direct impact but it does damage town

You don't have to play super hard as town but this is a bit too far across the line imo

Thomas Sufferwell

You don't have to play super hard as town but this is a bit too far across the line imo

I can base mine off the strategy i used (kickstarting tt asap) so dont pitchfork me

Idk I feel like that sort of betrayal is an inevitability for a cross faction role.

It generally doesn't help your team nor yourself to get the best result

20:39

Cciv actually can validly public claim and go for mayor in some setups

Huh what

Either town will lynch it if nobody dies or wolves can't kill them

20:39

Guaranteed reporter

Wouldnt that also happen with scum may

20:39

Oooh

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You would eliminate variability

This sort of terrorizes wolves into not turning cciv as long as kills are predictable enough

20:40

Scum mayor is difficult to achieve, random mayor can be killed

20:40

Cciv can not be killed

It could be a liability since its a +2 wolf vote on demand though

20:41

So lategame threat wolves can keep

Yeah you need to be certain to have a two d2 majority

20:41

Then cciv probably needs to resign

It could also be a liability in cases of unknown protections

True but less of a concern

20:42

If something like runner exists they should be the one to go for mayor anyway

20:43

If it's something like hooker a d2 cciv lynch doesn't do too much harm

20:43

And town still won't have lost any abilities or people

Yeah realistically true

20:44

(Miss) killing an unturned cciv hurts less than virtually any other role (edited)

20:45

Since theoretically if found defenseless by wp it is a net +2 wolf vote

Sounds worse than it is, it's just 1 vote more than any other kill

20:46

The worst part for town is figuring out who got turned and such

20:47

My dream cciv would be the player straight up getting replaced when they turn

20:47

Obviously that is not possible

Thomas Sufferwell

Sounds worse than it is, it's just 1 vote more than any other kill

Yeah

Thomas Sufferwell

The worst part for town is figuring out who got turned and such

Well easy, wolves will want to claim cciv to then shoehorn the actual ccivs as they can swap claims

20:50

Paradoxically there's extra enticement to kill them

20:50

Though there shouldn't be

20:50

kekw

20:50

(See time here)

But no town cciv would ctc cciv

20:50

In my strat

20:50

Either you get scum mayor or cciv mayor

Yeah that just

20:50

Works

And cciv should not be claim collecting anyway (edited)

Yeag

Thomas Sufferwell

My dream cciv would be the player straight up getting replaced when they turn

What dose this mean

20:52

An extra town spawns in

20:52

Kali M. Hostalysis

What dose this mean

The cciv player exits and is replaced by a new wolf player

21:15

Obviously this is impossible

21:16

As others could tell the player got replaced

That's kind of interesting

21:22

All parties involved would be happy

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22:50

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22:50

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22:51

Light is kinda trusted so super rip

Rip rip

22:56

It’s all cooked

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379942171796574399/1380668269241041006

00:04

Lmao

00:11

Shoulda killed Swurtle

Well they didn't know it was going to be literally a 2nd ti psycho

TBF swurtle has not been the issue for pack

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00:12

is swurtle winning

Kind of

00:13

they need to get fish killed some how

00:13

which is not the highest odds of happening

Aleeeeeeeeex

is swurtle winning

Very unlikely

00:15

Seems more probable town wins too fast

What if she threatened them to lynch fish or else shed leak all of town's info to Wolfpack lol

Would make no diffrence

00:17

There will be 1 member of pack left in the morning and the WWW

Well I mean Swurtle did fuck the wolves a good amount

00:18

Bass + Vera

Ye but who did it more, swurtle or coal...

I thought www is dying

00:18

Coal for sure lmao

whole game coming together to fuck wolves

realsad

00:19

So real

Chimera Shrimplain

I thought www is dying

nope, assassin is killing chopper

were you wolf chimi

Wolf pack is killing coal

00:19

Yes

damn

00:19

Tbf I messed up

oh ye forgot pack were killing coal

But the rest is mostly coal

couldn't have been worse than what www and psycho are doing

ye so just 1 member of pack left

Just sunny

damn

00:20

did sunny hit activity threshold this game

Sunny vs everybody

00:20

Prob not

00:20

Sunny subbed in just to get coins deducted

That’s unfortunate

realsad

ive been pack with sunny twice i think

It’s a pattern for sunny

and every time im praying to god they even come online enough to use their action

00:21

especially if we make decisions later into the day

Omgggg

00:21

We could’ve sniped if he was there

00:21

I don’t even wanna think about that

00:21

Kinda forgot about it

sniping is decroted

Decroted

00:22

?

its a mechanic i really don't want to think about

00:22

except in devil games

Well yes

00:22

realsad

its ethically fine to snipe devil

Tbh we didn’t even need to snipe if sunny is there we can just be open scum

00:22

Wait no

00:22

We didn’t have majority but

00:22

Not even town voted

00:23

That was a desperate play

The best way to kill the devil is via a snipe

I don’t know this game was so sad

only*

I don’t wanna play for a bit

Chimera Shrimplain

I don’t know this game was so sad

would you prefer this or the 9 day game

Idk

00:24

The frustration and humiliation as wolves this game kinda tops that

00:24

I’m waiting to be a mentor

‍↕️

oo

00:28

that's gonna be nice

00:28

more mentors means they can afford to let fish mentor me at some point

Even if we had majority sharl existed

00:29

Im so annoyed at this www play

00:29

Why is she basically assassin lol

Lmao you really want fish to mentor lol

Fish would be a fun mentor to have though

Jean D. Unwilling

Im so annoyed at this www play

Www isn't doing good things but the game's been over

00:52

Otherwise I probably would say something

Just so I can understand

00:53

What is coal doing that is so haram

Basically kingmaking

00:56

Except that it's not kingmaking because town was gonna win either way

What are we waiting for

Town doesn't have the game solved

Ah ok

It's just clear they're winning

But it’s a town win tho right

00:56

Ok

Yeah 100%

00:57

Just unclear who's gonna live

And if Swurtle can win somehow

Doubt

Chimera Shrimplain

Lmao you really want fish to mentor lol

just for one game pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

but it's hard

00:58

there's not many mentors and there's a lot of new players

00:59

and I debatably don't need a mentor

We should do an OS game where everyone is mentored (edited)

i was cooking an insane idea for if i ever got to pair up with fish

10p game

hand and brain wwr

01:00

brain gives out a plan, hand has to play according to it

Yay I love that

thank you chimi

You’re welcome Alex

Thomas Sufferwell

We should do an OS game where everyone is mentored (edited)

Omg yes

01:56

Mentor wars

Chimera Shrimplain

Sunny subbed in just to get coins deducted

01:58

I still find it wild wolves had such a terrible game

i hope they lynch me first so that swurtle loses

Fish ain't fetting lynched i think

cuz then fish is alive and game is over

They will misslynch chopper

chopper is assassined tho

o

Alive Players | Total: 11

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuki Begrudgington)

- captainluffy (@Captain Drafted) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Swur 'Not Again' Tel)

- char._.coal (@Charlotte C. Burntout)

- chopper2112 (@Chopper D. Drafted)

️ - sinisfuel (@aerosol) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Parker Reluctance)

- lightpulp (@Lyle P. Overworked)

- time9 (@T. I. Mennow)

- sharleclaire (@Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire)

- mrrfiish (@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish) (edited)

light and www dies

idk im the only swurtle believer here

and then me the last wolf

Jean D. Unwilling

and then me the last wolf

Sunny when the:

not a fan of how she sides with town hard. UA should be neutral imo

The:

02:01

And the:

i think vera agrees with me

I'll agree that telling town you were cit was

02:02

Questionable

02:02

It helped so much

huh?

02:04

i didnt even claim

02:04

oh nvm

02:04

you mean her check

02:04

bro she did not even lie once in a lying game

02:04

i h8 it

Also gave full list to town

02:04

Well wolves have it now but

02:04

In swurtle we trust

everyone not wolf has been siding with town lol

02:09

why are town so paranoid of wolves they have two powerful TKs

I still think www is our biggest enemy this game not town

Jean D. Unwilling

why are town so paranoid of wolves they have two powerful TKs

Tbf

Chimera Shrimplain

I still think www is our biggest enemy this game not town

THIS

Town wincon relied entirely on the coordination of that

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www should not even kill until theyre certain assassin and priest are dead

If you guys somehow thwarted tt the game would have been so rough

IMO

Cuz tk means nothing if they are likely to hit town due to lack of claimcollect

02:33

And there was no easy way to initialize it really

02:35

-# monopilizes all the trust cutely and initializes it anyways

true i suggested killing you first then luffy

Killing Kal was the only good move we made

03:48

But then stein was kinda inactive

Jean D. Unwilling

true i suggested killing you first then luffy

It was a bit of my fault for not doubling down on my suspicions really

04:06

too safe in already so much risk

Is coal game throwing or need a mentor?

i dont think shes throwing she just doesnt have a good strategy

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i really want swurtle to lose though, ngl

How does one request a mentor

Jean D. Unwilling

i dont think shes throwing she just doesnt have a good strategy

Isn't coal a dude?

Lol

Jean D. Unwilling

i really want swurtle to lose though, ngl

I agree

She goes by she/her

05:52

I think

Kali M. Hostalysis

How does one request a mentor

You simply ask her one and ping a host

Jean D. Unwilling

She goes by she/her

Oh my God I'm canceled again

05:53

Uncooked

Basil 'Why Me' C.

You simply ask her one and ping a host

o

05:53

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05:53

Am i missing something or did the coal not attack light or did the pack kill happen before the WWW kill?

the coal

11:51

Good point

12:22

@Thomas Sufferwell

12:24

I'm not sure what happened, so I'll let Ts assess. (edited)

wait didnt pack shank coal

12:31

how did luffy die

luffy is alive what

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379942171796574399/1380856023740452904

12:40

what is swurtle on

I think coal goes by he/him btw but he’s chill with everything

13:04

Luffy died?

13:04

In what world

13:06

Did light not die?

13:06

Why didn’t light die

13:07

Oh I just saw the discussion above

13:08

aww https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1380197250365526067/1380828748571738112

13:09

This is actually the cutest thing

13:09

Love wins

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Good point

Actually, I think it's ok? as the pack attack happens before WWW so the pack would attack the WWW (thus killing them) before the WWW attack executes. So, depending on how we interpret it, should the WWW attack still happen, probably not, as they have died before their attack.

Interesting

sounds fine

13:36

pack gets rewarded for finding www

I guess in a story telling sense

13:36

Yea

oh true

13:37

but i thought all attacks were end night

Same

13:37

Tbh this www is a little too obvious

Jean D. Unwilling

but i thought all attacks were end night

they are

13:38

;kill order

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I was on coal right away

wow i was so wrong

13:38

tbh i thought vera was www

13:38

idk how well coal played

morning folks

13:39

oh i played terrible

13:39

LMAO

hey coal

13:39

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even if an action is a night action there is still a process order to prevent conflicts, its just a case of even if the attack happened and someone is attacked who is ment to attack someone else exist in a quantum state where other attacks against them fail as they are dead but can attack or are just dead

guys i asked for a mentor like six times istg

13:40

idk if hosts thought i was joking or what

pensivegayblob

13:40

Tbf they didn’t have a person to sub in

aaaaaaaaa

13:40

is ok

So loool mentor is even less likely

Signed Up Players | Total: 18

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuki Begrudgington)

- captainluffy (@Captain Drafted)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie Dreadwaters) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Swur 'Not Again' Tel)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Basil 'Why Me' C.)

- mkayfme (@Emkay Forceme)

- char._.coal (@Charlotte C. Burntout)

- chopper2112 (@Chopper D. Drafted)

- dansan (@Dan S. Assigned)

️ - sinisfuel (@aerosol)

- chimi.loves.shrimp (@Chimera Shrimplain)

- venomousbirds (@V. Byrdson Dutycall) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Parker Reluctance)

- lightpulp (@Lyle P. Overworked)

- time9 (@T. I. Mennow)

- sharleclaire (@Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire)

- mrrfiish (@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish)

- steinator (@Steinator) (edited)

I think overall this game was a bit rough for the wolves

no new players?

It’s wolves vs everybody

13:41

I think just Swurtle

Chimera Shrimplain

I think just Swurtle

damn you've been relentless recently

Noooo

13:42

I don’t mean as a shade

13:42

I just mean that Swurtle is the only one that needed a mentor

13:42

realsad

13:42

I respect Swurtle

Chimera Shrimplain

I think just Swurtle

Swurtle can only play with a mentor, and its for everyones benfit

her play is still questionable even with a mentor

Can we have Swurtle watching instead of playing for one game

Aleeeeeeeeex

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Idk why Swurtle can’t hold back information in a social deduction game

She can

Jean D. Unwilling

her play is still questionable even with a mentor

still miles better then before...

She just generally doesn't

13:45

Or is bad at so

Chimera Shrimplain

Idk why Swurtle can’t hold back information in a social deduction game

its not that its just not also been able to keep to a story or anything

Chimera Shrimplain

Can we have Swurtle watching instead of playing for one game

the gms forced that a few times

Idk last time she was in wolf pack she almost outted everyone

swurtle had a 5 game suspention this year

Like Swurtle watching a mentor play? Maybe

13:45

Like role reversal

I meann

13:46

She did watch everyone play in the games she couldnt

13:46

Every one

that could be a intresting thing to do make them like a mentor so they can only see things from 1 persons point of view

Maybe then she’ll be like oh this is what I should do

13:46

Yeee

honestly if she's having fun and she has a mentor that stops her from solo-losing the games it's fine isn't it?

Jordan

that could be a intresting thing to do make them like a mentor so they can only see things from 1 persons point of view

Oh

I think Jay suggested that

But yeah what is swurtle's opinion on the matter

Yea

I mean it could be something in general to look at to offer to new players

Aleeeeeeeeex

honestly if she's having fun and she has a mentor that stops her from solo-losing the games it's fine isn't it?

Yuh

In general I think Swurtle is fine what I think that’s not fine is what she represents

I like swurtle

She represents honest truth and that makes whoever counters her impossible to play

if you do this make the new players watch some of the more consistent players

Do not reduce swurtle into an object of discussion she's still a person

13:47

yeen

i dont think they're gonna learn much by watching fish public claim tk

Jordan

I mean it could be something in general to look at to offer to new players

like partial spectator to allow you to learn the game, probably without seeing everything so you learn how it all comes together

or by watching ddd geting subbed out d2

Ofc but playing against Swurtle is difficult

13:48

I do enjoy our mentor program tho

Aleeeeeeeeex

i dont think they're gonna learn much by watching fish public claim tk

Jordan

like partial spectator to allow you to learn the game, probably without seeing everything so you learn how it all comes together

also allows them to directly ask the player why they did things too allowing them to learn

I think it’s helpful for new players

Jordan

also allows them to directly ask the player why they did things too allowing them to learn

That's interesting (edited)

13:50

But then the issue would be that it really depends who Laser point viewing into

Prob ddd

13:51

Our most reliable player

jay turtle

Chimera Shrimplain

Prob ddd

Yea

13:51

Turtle is very good

arch luffy ts

Jst wait for swurtle's opinion on tha

13:52

I do think it is a fun idea

i think we're just talking in general now

13:52

i like swurtle's vibing when she's not on my team (edited)

I still feel like new players might want to play

13:52

But for example for that cat/dog game

Well it's not really for new players really

Ocean will never take my words over Swurtle’s

It's for players to improve their play if they are doing not so good

13:53

actually it is just vip spectator

Chimera Shrimplain

Ocean will never take my words over Swurtle’s

That was funni

Until Swurtle starts lying everything she says is the absolute truth

13:53

It’s just hard to counter her

Chimera Shrimplain

Until Swurtle starts lying everything she says is the absolute truth

That's not a terrible deduction record to have

realsad

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I have nothing against Swurtle I think she’s awesome

This is when time should realize they should reclaim

But just hard to play with/against sometimes

Tough

Chimera Shrimplain

But just hard to play with/against sometimes

With tbf

13:56

Against is a matter of being more convincing

Hard to be convincing against Swurtle

13:56

But like if she’s on the opposite

13:56

Team

She leaks a lot of info

She plays very interesting at least!! And benefits her greatly 50% of the time

13:59

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379942171796574399/1380877973695107172 Talking about time

Haha

13:59

Yikes

13:59

Time playing interesting

I think luffy should realize here that time fake claimed cciv or theorize time is snw

Chimera Shrimplain

Time playing interesting

Well ironically the play he did is about to get him killed

14:00

While killing chopper too

Ye once suspetion goes onto time its about to help pack

Time should just claim

Yeah

Jordan

Ye once suspetion goes onto time its about to help pack

then swurtle just needs to convince them to kill fish

Jordan

Ye once suspetion goes onto time its about to help pack

XDD

Idk why he’s town sided not like he’s already wolf

What happened with the www kill btw

Chimera Shrimplain

Time should just claim

yep 100%

Apparently there’s a kill order

I thought all of them happen at the same time

Jordan

Actually, I think it's ok? as the pack attack happens before WWW so the pack would attack the WWW (thus killing them) before the WWW attack executes. So, depending on how we interpret it, should the WWW attack still happen, probably not, as they have died before their attack.

^ WWW kill

Jordan

Actually, I think it's ok? as the pack attack happens before WWW so the pack would attack the WWW (thus killing them) before the WWW attack executes. So, depending on how we interpret it, should the WWW attack still happen, probably not, as they have died before their attack.

How about assassin/priest?

Jordan

even if an action is a night action there is still a process order to prevent conflicts, its just a case of even if the attack happened and someone is attacked who is ment to attack someone else exist in a quantum state where other attacks against them fail as they are dead but can attack or are just dead

^ execution order

14:02

Waiting on the other gms to confirm, we will amend some wording to make it clearer

A lot of roles can still kill while being deathed(?)

14:02

Okkk

with Assassin, their attack could only be stopped by a pack or cult killing them, so ye clarifcation is needed

Chimera Shrimplain

Idk why he’s town sided not like he’s already wolf

He's playing practically wolf

may also have been a bot moment with the WWW kill

At checks him as non-threat and he claims cleric ofc a town will die for that

14:04

Now after that is dead luffy questions swurtle but swurtle has no reason to lie over result (it is far too trivial)

Jordan

with Assassin, their attack could only be stopped by a pack or cult killing them, so ye clarifcation is needed

Og

14:05

Wait pack killing thm stops the kill?

14:05

Damn

It may do

14:05

its why it needs to be clarified

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379856048420028477/1380880212518109306

because the logic of pack killing WWW stopped the kill should apply to all, unless it's something stupid like "assassin shoots before they die, die, then the bullet hits their target"

Clearly

14:08

Priest throws the water flask before dying

14:08

XD

ok so the only reason they are not questioning time is as they dont trust swurtle

Jordan

Actually, I think it's ok? as the pack attack happens before WWW so the pack would attack the WWW (thus killing them) before the WWW attack executes. So, depending on how we interpret it, should the WWW attack still happen, probably not, as they have died before their attack.

I'm not sure. Why does pack attack happen before WWW?

Group attacks happen first

Killing Order

If a player is attacked/killed several times in one night, the list of protections is synchronously handled step by step for all attacks. This means first all attackers will simultaneously be affected by absences, then all of them will be affected by active protections, and so on. Conflicts must be resolved when multiple killings would trigger the same ability. For conflicts, roles are prioritised alphabetically within their team. Townsfolk roles are considered first, then werewolf, then all other roles. If a conflict still exists then a random attacker is prioritised. Groups are a special case and are prioritised before any single role attacks. Groups are sorted alphabetically according to the group name, not the attacker's role. Several roles/players may succeed in killing the same player if the killings would occur synchronously and no abilities would be triggered multiple times.

Yes, but then that would mean if an Assassin kills and is attacked in the same night, the kill wouldn't go through. But it always goes through.

14:18

I think it's a bot mistake

But it mentions werewolf killing and then group?

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Yes, but then that would mean if an Assassin kills and is attacked in the same night, the kill wouldn't go through. But it always goes through.

true

Is it implying wp is a group or no

But I want Ts' input before doing anything anyways. No idea where he went.

the exact order given in the role book:

Cult, Wolfpack | Assassin, Priest, Witch | Lone Wolf | Devil, Pyromancer, WWW

14:20

So ye i recon is some kind of bot bug but it 100% needs clarifying in the rule book

Yeah, the bot said this: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1325107204428398592/1380788497799057529

Ye i saw that

And this https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/810624940855787520/1380076535754526803

14:22

I might just kill Light now then. Because phase ends in less than 4hrs.

Ye

Sorry Light, it took a while to rectify the mistake.

Took a lot of reading to try and figure out what should have happened

14:29

A corpse was talking

Yeah, WWW did attack you, but the bot didn't realize it

Coal attacked you but kind of died before attacking you so left a question what is the actual order of events here

And Ts didn't come online for phase change, so it went unnoticed. Our bad.

How should it actually be resolved then? Both at the same time?

We think so

14:30

all attacks should happen at the same time but apply a process order to handle like runners, souls and protection as such

Essentially part of the WWW mechanic is broken in the bot, it keeps giving error messages. So that's why Dansan was also a manual kill. (He showed up on the following story-time: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395167882182688/1380214652314583142)

Why is swurtle defending fish...

14:37

they want fish dead...

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Town have the clear majority so swurtle just needs to ask to try fish first then they can both win

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379942171796574399/1380888140914360351

Jordan

Why is swurtle defending fish...

oh you just said the same

14:42

if luffy overthinks this it could work

14:43

-> swurtle says fish is fine and sunny isn't -> luffy thinks it's psycopath trying to win by lying -> lynch fish instead

Swurtle is cooked.

yep

LOL

Jordan

Town have the clear majority so swurtle just needs to ask to try fish first then they can both win

Yeah

Swurtle is losing and im happy with that outcome

Swurtle is in fact cooked

Nothing else matters

pensivegayblob

14:48

I was rooting for her

you only do cuz she sided town hard

14:48

UAs shouldnt be like that

no she was there for my enormous crash out

14:49

14:49

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379856048420028477/1380885604362879096 "Precisely"

I mean, UAs can do whatever gets them to their win the fastest. And given a 4 Wolf-2 Town list, town-siding wasn't per se the worst strat (- better than wolf-siding, at least). But she did lean a bit too much into it, true.

Town can kill town but wolves are never killing wolves

Unless its a lone wolf and they get RNG killed

14:57

(which has happend too many times)

Kali M. Hostalysis

Town can kill town but wolves are never killing wolves

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

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WWW:

Very much looks like the game is over then, town win, swurtle loss (edited)

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

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The WWW themselves being in the psycho list:

Alright, finished back reading everything here!

15:49

It was an interesting game, fitting for a season closing game, although I couldn't be as active about it as before

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Wait, it’s the season finale??

yeah

Woah. History in the making

seasons always have 8 seasonal games and usually around 4 off-season games

Emkay Forceme

Wait, it’s the season finale??

Is this your first season?

Is there a summer break or something or do they go straight into the next one

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Is this your first season?

Yeah

Emkay Forceme

Is there a summer break or something or do they go straight into the next one

Straight into the next one, we usually do like 2 and a half per year.

15:52

No, more like 2/year. (edited)

I see

I've been here 5 years and we've done 9 seasons in that time, so something like that.

Some points I note:

I should have used Alpha power night 1 and get our claims in order, like the fact I delayed it at all allowed WWW to kill dansan. There was practically no reason not to reveal early because WWW only kills on second night
I clocked swurtle as psycho and bass as recluse early into day phase so I should have stopped pushing bass and focused more on my suspicion on swurtle as psychopath
me jumping on Pkr bandwagon did absolutely nothing LMAO
I shouldn't have claimed cciv because that only pushes me out of a possible TT, I should have went with cleric or something
There really wasn't anything I could do to avoid the double scared wolf lynch...

where do 4.47 points land me this season

16:01

im kinda surprised i have that many

bronze

damn

16:07

the falloff

I have 0.13 points !

What’s my season rating

16:09

I haven’t checked in a bit

16:10

Ts can I be a mentor uglysmile

uglysmile

16:10

Imagine begging so hard here and be rejected

idk, probably

pensivegayblob

idk how the system works

16:12

you're at 10.00

16:12

at >10 its platinum

Ouuuuu

16:12

This is just about how much you play each season?

so as long as you make ANY amount of points this game you should get plat this season

Chimera Shrimplain

This is just about how much you play each season?

plat requires playing a lot and winning a bunch

I thought it’s about average

16:13

Oh I see

seasonal rankings dont average

16:13

seasonal rankings are just for total points per season

16:13

>2.5 bronze >5 silver >7.5 gold >10 platinum

Ohhh gotcha

plat requires about 5 wins

Makes sense

16:14

Not bad

uglysmile

or I think you can substitute a single win with 2-3 losses (edited)

16:14

so 4 wins, 2 losses should get you there as well

Ouu I see

16:15

I don’t remember how many I won

looks like 4 wins 2 losses 1 unranked to me or something like that (edited)

But beginners luck for me uglysmile

uglysmile

16:15

Ah okay!

Image attachment

16:17

yup 4 wins, 2 losses, rest is not ranked

16:17

so in this case 4w 2l was just shy of plat

16:17

but this game will get you there

Thomas Sufferwell

plat requires about 5 wins

i had >13 last season with 5 wins

16:20

but there was a remade game

Wins are usually around 2

16:21

Solo wins can go above 2.5

16:22

Dead wins may only be 1.5ish

Image attachment

16:22

i didnt play any solos in s12

So 5 wins of 2 is exactly 10, but you can get to 10 with just 4 as well

16:23

There's 2 losses, right?

16:23

So yeah that gets you quite beyond 10

couldve had like

16:23

15

16:23

if i didnt miss 2 games

For me I think I’ve only won one game here and it was offseason

Hi where can I check this doc again

bringer of bad luck

16:24

its pinned in announcements

Mistap

16:29

Oh I get silver nice

16:29

I did die a lot

I get unqualified, apparently.

16:33

Nvm, bronze.

I did intend on trying to play this season but life had other plans for me, but now i have way more free time so next season it will be time

Chimera Shrimplain

Ts can I be a mentor uglysmile

uglysmile

i think we had a hard rule that we wouldnt make people mentors in their first season of play

16:39

so i guess ask when its s14 :)

Signed Up Players | Total: 18

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuki Begrudgington)

- captainluffy (@Captain Drafted)

- theoceancookie (@Cookie Dreadwaters) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Swur 'Not Again' Tel)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Basil 'Why Me' C.)

- mkayfme (@Emkay Forceme)

- char._.coal (@Charlotte C. Burntout)

- chopper2112 (@Chopper D. Drafted)

- dansan (@Dan S. Assigned)

️ - sinisfuel (@aerosol)

- chimi.loves.shrimp (@Chimera Shrimplain)

- venomousbirds (@V. Byrdson Dutycall) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Parker Reluctance)

- lightpulp (@Lyle P. Overworked)

- time9 (@T. I. Mennow)

- sharleclaire (@Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire)

- mrrfiish (@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish)

- steinator (@Steinator) (edited)

Wth I haven't been UA since S7

wolfpack killing known www when there's still 18 players ingame is a huge blunder lol

16:39

like massive

Where on the spreadsheet can I check my win-loss ratio? I know its 0% but I need to see how many ive lost lol

HR

wolfpack killing known www when there's still 18 players ingame is a huge blunder lol

You didn't do $a but yes

oh

16:40

LOL

Alive Players | Total: 8

- yuki_not_cutie (@Yuki Begrudgington)

- captainluffy (@Captain Drafted) thight

thight

- swurtle (@Swur 'Not Again' Tel)

️ - sinisfuel (@aerosol) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Parker Reluctance)

- time9 (@T. I. Mennow)

- sharleclaire (@Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire)

- mrrfiish (@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish) (edited)

okay thats more sensible

Dan S. Assigned

Where on the spreadsheet can I check my win-loss ratio? I know its 0% but I need to see how many ive lost lol

The tab called P

0-8 after this game

ouch

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395279509389424/1380918909368139827 LOL

16:42

just dont do the thing you immediately did

Dan S. Assigned

0-8 after this game

pain

Image attachment

LOL

Overperformance: -43.21%.

16:43

Lol.

My subjective bonus have been good so I cant be THAT bad right?

Image attachment

Wow, that is really good, yeah.

Looking at my own, how have i got plague so many times compared to the others (edited)

Jordan

just dont do the thing you immediately did

LMAOOO

16:46

Dan S. Assigned

My subjective bonus have been good so I cant be THAT bad right?

Just unlucky

16:46

But damn thats an insane lose streak

Jordan

Looking at my own, how have i got plague so many times compared to the others (edited)

like plauge is not a common solo, hell makes sense, also some how never got pyro

dansan has been having a rough time

Kali M. Hostalysis

But damn thats an insane lose streak

Here to set records

Wait u lose again right now

Dan S. Assigned

My subjective bonus have been good so I cant be THAT bad right?

ye you have just got very unlucky

I realized

16:47

Thats

16:47

Yeah LOL

if anything just means you will go on a winning streak soon™️ or your cursed

I may be cursed

I still find it crazy we lost in the game we duod

Tbh at first I thought dansan is www cuz I was like he always loses and wolf is so strong

Chimera Shrimplain

Tbh at first I thought dansan is www cuz I was like he always loses and wolf is so strong

16:48

No hes genuinely unlucky

16:48

Oh wait

16:48

are u implied he jinxed the game

Kali M. Hostalysis

I still find it crazy we lost in the game we duod

Yeah that was a sad one

16:48

No

Kali M. Hostalysis

are u implied he jinxed the game

If you see me on your alignment, youre in for a bad time

Dan S. Assigned

Yeah that was a sad one

Mia going ballistic

S14 is a new season

16:48

So it’s gonna be different

Chimera Shrimplain

So it’s gonna be different

Copium

in general nothing we could do to wrestle control from mia considering she could uh

16:48

kill us.

yeah LOL

But

16:49

Well

Her killing me

For the future i now know I can hold them hostage for gamethrowing!

Was sad

Kruthers subbed in to die

Lmao

16:50

Im still advocating for 19 witches 1 scared wolf game

16:50

(Offseason)

Lmao

Lmao that would be hilarious

Would be so funny

16:51

But quickly found out by a wheel system

16:51

(Everyone is in a circle, kill the person to your right)

Jordan

like plauge is not a common solo, hell makes sense, also some how never got pyro

I've gotten Hell 0 times I think. Or maybe once. But Pyro thrice. Never Plague either, wow.

I love plague

I want to play hell

16:51

It sounds so fun

But i swear next time there’s plague everyone is going to think it’s me

16:52

And just lynch me for safety

Chimera Shrimplain

But i swear next time there’s plague everyone is going to think it’s me

Note for the future:

I just want to play Unaligned.

Angel is so funni

Nooo

16:53

I wanna play UA

16:53

But not despot

16:53

It’s boring

My first and only UA/solo game so far was as Horse

16:54

Next season I want to try out all the ice cream flavors

i don’t ever want to play solo again

16:55

i’m so sorry wolves

You ate them up (literally).

i told you it’d be a master class

Charlotte C. Burntout

i’m so sorry wolves

You murdered me

i can’t read

LOL

it’s hard out here #illiterate

Its okay coal

16:57

We all did ourbest

Charlotte C. Burntout

i’m so sorry wolves

It was a bit sad backreading and seeing all the coal mentions

16:58

Although I'll be honest

16:58

I also thought WWW should only kill wolves LOL (edited)

cries

16:59

it’s

16:59

complicated

16:59

i do

16:59

want to mentokned

16:59

i asked for mentors

16:59

pensivegayblob

Lyle P. Overworked

It was a bit sad backreading and seeing all the coal mentions

cries

17:00

i died a little more inside

I will say I never even thought you were WWW

17:00

I had to be told by two different people

sobs

17:01

really?

17:01

who did you think it was

Vera

17:02

They were so good at logically blocking WWW that I thought they had to be lying by omission to put the heat off them

17:03

I'm really bad at social reads I guess

17:04

That's something I'll have to fix next season

game ends in 56 minutes?

17:05

im still kinda confused why everyone was absolutely certain chopper is wolf lol

same lmao

at the end it made sense when they confirmed time as having your role

17:05

but before that im confused

17:06

(time claimed cleric and was cleared by AT and the other cleric was mechanically confirmed)

17:06

but they were already so sure before that

yea idk

17:07

i think it was just a gut guess and bandwagon

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didn’t really end up mattering tho

Chopper D. Drafted

i think it was just a gut guess and bandwagon

I joined in pkrs bandwagon because I knew you're not

17:08

As for the others idk

pkr just sounded

17:09

smart

17:09

so people are bound to listen

PKR has a great way of speaking, easy to rally behind him lol

cleric on cleric violence

17:11

i totally thought he was a wolf tbh

It was not enough to take the lynch off of recluse bass though...

bass

17:13

i don’t know what happened there

Unlucky

17:14

Swurtle checked bass as recluse and the world was changed forever

yea that’s interesting

My mistake was not focusing on swurtle psychopath

17:16

I don't know how much it would have helped but at the very least it'd be something to help bass

I don’t understand time's logic

17:34

He still wins if he dies, right?

17:34

The only way for him to lose would be for him to be converted

17:34

Which I feel like only town could prevent

17:38

Seems like he’s hurting himself

I don't understand either

17:46

The funny thing is I just said time should play 100% as town

17:46

He's pointing out how he is not doing that in his mind and then trying to argue against that

17:46

When I have never said anything

17:50

He could very well be doing what he's doing while being 100% committed to town, but then there's hardly any reason to pick out specific actions and argue about them

His main logic is that he wants to win alive

17:51

Even if he has to sacrifice one other actual town for it

17:51

Because if he comes out as cciv he won't have that big of a chance to live as town winner anymore

that's what I thought as well but he seems to be rejecting that notion

Which he says is proven by the discussion they're having atm

i mean

17:52

is it not?

17:52

sharl is talking about killing time cuz he came out as cciv

Yup

it won’t affect him winning ofc

He says "Literally everyone wants to survive"

well that game wont even last that long

yeah

but if the game last past this lynch then it is the right decision for town, is it not?

He wants to win alive so he lied about his town role

because at that point it means swurtle has likely lied (edited)

Lyle P. Overworked

He says "Literally everyone wants to survive"

which is also just entirely wrong

17:53

most games the early strong town players die

17:54

if you public claim d1 for mayor, chances are good you're not making it until the end (edited)

If he’s so dead set on winning at the cost of everyone else wouldn’t it be good for him to be lynched? You can’t convert dead people

Yup. Journalist, Huntress, etc are all roles that want to die to help town

17:54

He's saying that he doesn't like playing them

Emkay Forceme

If he’s so dead set on winning at the cost of everyone else wouldn’t it be good for him to be lynched? You can’t convert dead people

but i mean they have a solid lynch today

17:55

no point in delaying just to make sure timmy doesn’t get converted

dying to help your team is a fundamental part of these sort of games

mhm

someones gotta get hit every night after all

Unless wolfpack is IA or ties like a few games back lol

Charlotte C. Burntout

no point in delaying just to make sure timmy doesn’t get converted

In this case yes

yea

But what I mean is why would he be so staunchly opposed to getting lynched if it essentially guarantees him a win

town was also now actively planning how to protect time

17:57

which they couldnt do previously since they didnt realize time needs protecting

i see

but in the end I don't care

17:57

time says he's playing as he should so I believe it

17:57

which means he just didn't realize how it was hurting town

Emkay Forceme

But what I mean is why would he be so staunchly opposed to getting lynched if it essentially guarantees him a win

cuz he wants to win alive ig

he's saying it's not any different from priest not public claiming

17:59

He's saying he's doing nothing beyond trying to make town win like anyone else and I don't care beyond believing it

18:00

So I will just take it at face value and assume he didn't see the consequences

Charlotte C. Burntout

cuz he wants to win alive ig

Which is what I don’t understand

is what it is

I figured originally there may have been a misunderstanding of the win condition which I wanted to clarify but I guess not

Well looks like I helped out town too much

18:01

Thought they were gonna help me win but wolves killing www gave me less time

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Town cannot kill one of their own to help you win

Since Luffy didn’t know who sneaking wolf was I was hoping Sunny ended up being cit instead of sneaking wolf

Good game everyone

V. Byrdson Dutycall

but it all boils down to coals illiteracy

Bitch

18:07

Why you so mean all the time ?

cries

Always looking for a fight to pick?

Why make the comment?

Hilarious answer

Yeah

18:09

But dead spec is always hostile you back read a name and it’s just x is stupid

So true

18:10

everyone's a sore loser

You can’t learn roles because people yell at you

me included for sure

Jean D. Unwilling

Swurtle is losing and im happy with that outcome

sob

I was told I game threw by not outing as cult member yet nobody would tell me why I should claim

18:11

Jsut because someone didn’t get a role they hadn’t played doesn’t mean they are illiterate

I don't recall the incident you are referring

Yeah because it wasn’t you who got yelled at by 4 people

I think in this case the assumption was that coal thought PsyW can find WWW which WWW desc says they cannot

18:11

Idk if coal thought that even tbh

So explain that in instead of insulting them ?

Yup

18:12

But people are sore losers

Doesn’t excuse them insulting people

Yippee

First message from you in this chat is an insult

sometimes people try to deconstruct the game to see how they ended up in a certain situation, but it can often use harsher than neccesary language

coal

:p

dead spec is often unnecessarily toxic

Real

Oh shoot

yeah but

T. I. Mennow

Bitch

wow okay i didnt call you that? calm down?

just cuz

18:13

it is

I just realized I’m in the middle of a fight

doesnt mean it really should be

18:14

idk

Oh it shouldn't be

like damn i knew i was shitting on town but straight up insulting me is not the way to go

ngl i know i fucked up but people repeatedly telling me i fucked up in various levels of shittiness is j

18:14

not

18:14

fun

18:14

but whatever

V. Byrdson Dutycall

like damn i knew i was shitting on town but straight up insulting me is not the way to go

Honest question why is it okay for you to insult but not others?

Sorry I was just happy that the game ended I didn’t mean to interrupt continue

T. I. Mennow

Honest question why is it okay for you to insult but not others?

???

18:15

im really confused where the hostility comes from

Chimera Shrimplain

Sorry I was just happy that the game ended I didn’t mean to interrupt continue

woohoo

18:15

!!

Charlotte C. Burntout

ngl i know i fucked up but people repeatedly telling me i fucked up in various levels of shittiness is j

for what it's worth both turtle and me think attacking was the right choice

im a sore loser, i admit, but there no reason to flat out insult me like that

V. Byrdson Dutycall

im a sore loser, i admit, but there no reason to flat out insult me like that

But you insulted someone else ?

i was salty about the game

18:15

i didnt call anyone a bitch?

wolves could have realistically realized www should attack and given different advice

wtf

I feel like I was a bit upset at how the game went but I admit I fucked up and it’s not just coal.. coal made the decision when he didn’t know me and Vera are on the chopping block

To be fair Vera until I checked you I thought you were town so you were playing well

So like yea

i called coal illiterate but thats all i remember being mean about? and i was mad at swurtle

yup

Thomas Sufferwell

for what it's worth both turtle and me think attacking was the right choice

thanks ;-;

idk why time thought it was necessary to go back to those messages and pick them up

but what the hell did i do to time

18:17

i dont think i even mentioned him once this entire game

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i called coal illiterate but thats all i remember being mean about? and i was mad at swurtle

I understand why you’re mad at me wolves are mad at my action for the game in general

now if swurtle or coal called me a bitch id get it

18:17

yea i was mean to you swurtle but you understand and im sorry

18:17

its a game

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I understand why you’re mad at me wolves are mad at my action for the game in general

wolves arent mad because you helped town (or maybe a bit) but more so because you helped town so much it harmed yourself

yea lol

if you were mostly working with town, but making sure you would win yourself wolves would maybe still be a bit mad, but less so

it was a full on attack on wolves the first 2 days and it got us into a position where we couldnt do anything and we sure as hell wouldnt ever wanna help you

To be fair wolves didn’t need to kill www right away they could of continue to kill off more town or wolves could of helped me out and kill fish

hard siding as psycho is usually a bad decision

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

To be fair wolves didn’t need to kill www right away they could of continue to kill off more town or wolves could of helped me out and kill fish

well we didnt wanna help you lol

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

To be fair wolves didn’t need to kill www right away they could of continue to kill off more town or wolves could of helped me out and kill fish

at this point the game was already over tbh

and that ig

18:19

the double snw lynch handed the win to town

yeah the double scw lynch was when it was over

18:19

the only question was how long it would take

And we were all worried about the wolf sided list lmao

I should've kept despot instead of psycho but I was also being gaslit into thinking wolves were op tbh (edited)

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

And we were all worried about the wolf sided list lmao

also why did you guys think the psycho list had to be 50/50 btw?

I think looking back in hindsight swurtle could have kept bass being recluse a secret for day 1 so that she has a contact with wolves to do the town-sided killings for her

that was a weird thought

I like host meta on a bot randomization

it was wrong too

18:21

kinda funny

Lyle P. Overworked

I think looking back in hindsight swurtle could have kept bass being recluse a secret for day 1 so that she has a contact with wolves to do the town-sided killings for her

yeah

Lyle P. Overworked

I think looking back in hindsight swurtle could have kept bass being recluse a secret for day 1 so that she has a contact with wolves to do the town-sided killings for her

yea this wouldve worked pretty well too

Lyle P. Overworked

I think looking back in hindsight swurtle could have kept bass being recluse a secret for day 1 so that she has a contact with wolves to do the town-sided killings for her

I wanted to keep it lowkey but uh when Kal random roll to lynch me I panicked and hinting at bass being recluse was the only thing I could think of to save myself

i still think my lynch was entirely unjust :(((

uh so

18:22

what would

18:22

i do

18:22

in that scenario

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I wanted to keep it lowkey but uh when Kal random roll to lynch me I panicked and hinting at bass being recluse was the only thing I could think of to save myself

just bc theres a random roll doesnt mean you get lyched

like how does www work ig

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I wanted to keep it lowkey but uh when Kal random roll to lynch me I panicked and hinting at bass being recluse was the only thing I could think of to save myself

They keep doing it because it keeps working because scum panics easily lol

people didnt actually wagon much start of the game, it was nice to see people come up with their own deductions

V. Byrdson Dutycall

just bc theres a random roll doesnt mean you get lyched

Yeah but then Kal asked me to defend myself

I think the smartest N2 kill was a ScW suspect

18:23

that way you use your kill but don't do too much damage

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Yeah but then Kal asked me to defend myself

kal did that to everyone

I would know, I'm one of the victims of that random lynch roll trap lmao

killing the AT claim was awful for wolves

18:23

you want to keep your damage on wolf side to a limit

you just say youre town and otherwise question kal yourself

18:23

kal was easy to convince there

You basically choose the option that harms wolves THE MOST

ah i see

V. Byrdson Dutycall

people didnt actually wagon much start of the game, it was nice to see people come up with their own deductions

For some reason when games don't have CC people actually feel like they play better I think

i liked this style of play with limited ccs

It's when CCs appear that the lack of information becomes "oh trust me because im trusted"

18:24

So people stop thinkjng too much about it

no ccs is a wolf win game most of the time bc theyre the only ones organized and town cant do shit

A ScW attack keeps your options open to get them with a second hit or for town to TK them

18:24

but lynchwise it keeps it the same

Heck, luffy pings participant for a lynch and in less than 30 seconds there's 5 votes

yea you kinda can deduce as scum whos in tt

18:24

bc of that

18:24

people should stop doing it

18:25

and actually argue, even as tt

18:25

keeps options open for wolves

This game was meant to be fairly hard to form TT

18:25

But by eliminating dansan it became easy

mb gang

Charlotte C. Burntout

mb gang

uh yea we warned ya ahha

www is pretty hard to play right imo

www is supposed to be difficult

lmao its not like you guys gave me alternatives

eh I think its obvious the "no attack" advice is bad advice

Who was it who played WWW the most again? Luffy?

so following it isn't so wise

you guys say no attack, my role says kill werewolves

Thomas Sufferwell

eh I think its obvious the "no attack" advice is bad advice

well fair but attacking felt worse

who am i gonna listen to

yeah obviously for you its worse (edited)

18:26

but I dont think most www's believe that

Charlotte C. Burntout

you guys say no attack, my role says kill werewolves

well that was the problem, your role said kill everyone

well

not just kill werewolves

is what it is

18:27

i figured that out after i had killed werewolves!

i did explain why not killing could benefit both of us

again

18:27

role said

18:27

kill werewolves

18:27

so i killed werewolves

I think delaying the kill should have been fine

Most plays will always look stupid to spectators and dead as we can see the whole game, we assume more often then we should that the people in the game know whats going on and what others are doing. Everyone is always trying to do what they feel best, sometimes this is without info we think they have

Charlotte C. Burntout

i figured that out after i had killed werewolves!

i even explained how if youre uncertain, you gotta ask hosts

Because the cooldown just gets moved

guys its ok both hosts says it was a good idea to kill

in general, in wolf chat

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i even explained how if youre uncertain, you gotta ask hosts

well i wasnt uncertain

18:28

i wsa certain

18:28

until

Charlotte C. Burntout

guys its ok both hosts says it was a good idea to kill

oh yea believe them over me tbh, im very wolfsided :)

a point

and youre not

Dansan also slipped being psychic wolf

yeah!

18:28

glad we both agree

I assume thats why you targeted dansan

I think your first choice of a vera attack would've been solid

Because psychic wolf = not a scared wolf

seeing the game from a non-siding pov really helps with analysing decisions

18:28

as wolf i thought the attack was bad

18:28

as host you can see how an attack could work

and ultimately a vera attack wouldn't have ended up affecting the game much

How did you guys even know coal was the WWW

18:29

I got told twice

18:29

By different people

deduction

chimi legit j went

18:29

coal www

dansan was obviously psychic

i was stunned

Thomas Sufferwell

I think your first choice of a vera attack would've been solid

i see

you were alpha

big sigh

chimi was very much wolfsided

18:29

coal was quiet

but if you didnt realize you had to kill town too that's entirely on you tbh

Also why did bass out his pack aka coal chimi and light

lol!!

for me it was between arch and coal

so true

the role desc mentions it several times right at the start

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Also why did bass out his pack aka coal chimi and light

Bass is recluse aka not in wolf pack

Are you not supposed to tell your fellow wolves your roles?

He just guessed and coincidentally hit almost all wolves lol

Emkay Forceme

Are you not supposed to tell your fellow wolves your roles?

not w www

Lyle P. Overworked

He just guessed and coincidentally hit almost all wolves lol

Oh right lmao

Emkay Forceme

Are you not supposed to tell your fellow wolves your roles?

With www it makes the www able to know who best to kill

Lyle P. Overworked

With www it makes the www able to know who best to kill

Ahhhhh I see

though im not actually 100% convinced on this

Which is why I should have used alpha power night 1 to get some claims going

So it’s not an honour system

Emkay Forceme

So it’s not an honour system

Normal wolfpack with no www traitors you can send your info to pack no issues Its just in games with www where that's not optimal, because if www knows everyone's role they can just avoid the scared wolves and kill eveyone else

Right, makes sense

18:33

Yeah that must be a difficult role. A WWW pretending to be pack pretending to be town. Quite literally a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.

I don't think www's benefit from maximizing their damage to wp

i wanted to organize pack best i could with members still staying ambiguous

So I'm not 100% convinced keeping things this secret is beneficial

so i think my claim system kinda worked there?

We didn't really end up benefiting from it on hindsight

staying secret isnt always good no, but i feared a murderous www wanting to go after strong roles first

18:34

so by staying anon they would have a worse time choosing

18:34

of course thatd come down to rando then

18:34

but bigger chance to hit scw

Alpha wolf should have collected claims night 1 so that www is outed by night 2

wouldve worked

When we get ccs

your outing was mostly unfortunate bc kal turned

how is www outed?

18:35

they arent claiming www

18:35

they just claim scw

well no but iwth 3 scw its a way easier deduction

oh yeah

especially considering how quiet coal was

No, but it'd make the discussion more focused and that yeah

Oh right when Kal turned my pp list got told to wolves

STOP

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Oh right when Kal turned my pp list got told to wolves

yea uh not really

Oh yeah Kal subbing out for stein at the very moment he got turned lol

kal quit and stein was not very talkative to pack

A real cursed civilian conversion

18:36

Town role turn into wolf role!

if stein had done more it may have given wolves more of a chance

Level up!

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18:36

Lootbox opened!

@Thomas Sufferwell opened a loot box and got a BRONZE tier reward! You won: The pack_wood

pack_wood

Wood

pack_wood

skinpack. Use $packs select 51 to select it. You already have this reward so as a consolation prize you get 30 token

token

coins.

wow thanks wood the best skinpack

Goated skin pack

we should use boosters now

18:37

after game dead spec is always so active

Boosters

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18:37

Boosters

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we can get x28 (edited)

NO

18:38

PLEASE NO

18:38

I JUST GOT OUT OF THE GAME

18:38

I CAN FINALLY WORK ON THE THING I REASONED WAS MY REASON TO SUB OUT

18:38

PLEASE DON'T DO THIS TO ME NOT NOW AAAAA

Sticker

swurtle you wanna go for it? @Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Sure

Boosters

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18:38

Boosters

@Thomas Sufferwell, you have activated a booster to multiply all gained XP by 2 for the next 1 hour(s) for everyone.

NO

18:38

AH

Boosters

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alright its time

DAMMIT ITS 2 HOURS

Boosters

@Swur 'Not Again' Tel, you have activated a booster to multiply all gained XP by 7 for the next 7 hour(s) for everyone.

NO 7 HOURS

XP Leaderboard

@Lyle P. Overworked has 75817 XP and is on Level 36.

@here its time

BOOSTER TIME

this is x28 active now gibagul

gibagul

It’s me

WOOOOOO

What?

Wow

LESS

PLEASE I NEED TIME FOR MY PROJECT

goooo

18:39

wait

18:39

;bst

❗ Could not find role bst. Did you mean bat?

we have x28 boost

YOU CAN'T DO THIS TO ME

Time for what exactly

wait

oh wow

do $bst to check if you have more

I need exp

letsgggooooooooooooooooo

%bst

Do I just need to yap

Boosters

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letsssggggooooooooooooooo

Boosters

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YAP TIME

guys

Boosters

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DO IT

18:39

DO IT

USE IT DAN

You need to do it

Boosters

@Charlotte C. Burntout, you have used your booster to gain 150 XP.

Oh god people are gonna yap for the next while huh

woooo

18:40

lets gooo

Wowwww

That will get us to the max if you activate it dan

What happened

Boosters

@Dan S. Assigned, you have activated a booster to multiply all gained XP by 4 for the next 1 hour(s) for everyone.

alright now everyone

Woooooo

BOOSTER PARTY

WE HAVE HIT THE MAX

start being toxic

Oh no

start hating

Do we have booster

Parker Reluctance

Oh god people are gonna yap for the next while huh

why?

Max exp boost

Here we go baby aaaaa.

Ok ok

nows the time to do it

oh

Loooool

Charlotte C. Burntout

start being toxic

u suck

ohh booster

booster

We gotta do something about it

hope that helps

nice

Yap yap yap

Anyways I saw Django unchained. I liked it, just not as much as basterds

Btw I have a negative booster

you suck more

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

why?

Xp boosters up to 50x now

ts

Interesting

The ending song was a bop

Chimera Shrimplain

Btw I have a negative booster

NOOOO

Emkay Forceme

Anyways I saw Django unchained. I liked it, just not as much as basterds

I agree

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

why?

Exp has been boosted to the sky

I enjoyed the hateful eight

If you miss this chance you don't get the xp

Makes me wanna play RDR2 again

Django wasn’t that good

My favourite is pulp fiction ofc

Charlotte C. Burntout

start being toxic

nincompoop

Hateful eight is great though

Not favourite movie

Aleeeeeeeeex

nincompoop

ding dong

Chimera Shrimplain

Btw I have a negative booster

Chipi chapa please use it

I wonder if we have the same thing as last time where some people just dont change

maybe

Because they're not hitting the right criteria

I’ve yet to see hateful eight

Favourite Tarantino

Parker Reluctance

Exp has been boosted to the sky

I'm very confused?

Wait should I do the negative

Boosters

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Tarantino is good

Boosters

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Lyle P. Overworked

Chipi chapa please use it

Chipi chipi chapa chapa

I should go on a Tarantino binge

nope

Hmm

what is this supposed to mean?

NO NEGATICE

Do I do it

NO

we already have the max

CHIMI

USE THE NEGATIVE

THINK ABOUT IT

USE IT

Lmaooooo

THINK ABOUT IT

Negative it

Hit the negative

PLEASE

DONT

Max negative

ILY CHIMI

DONT USE THE NEGATIVE

LOL

Whattt

DONT DO THIS TO US

Too many opinions

use the negative im busy now

I can’t keep up

nooo

Hmm

Do it for Yuki

dont

ngl wait

ruin it for them

do the negative

NOOOOOO

Dan S. Assigned

Tarantino is good

Reservoir dogs is agood movie ngl

CHIMI NOOO

Hmm

Chimera Shrimplain

I can’t keep up

It's only for 1 hour do it

DO NOT DO IT YOU CANNOT DO THIS TO US

Ok I won’t ??

Punish town for winning

i wanna get easier thigns

This is wolves revenge

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

Reservoir dogs is agood movie ngl

Haven’t seen it I’ll add it to my list

But can I get mentor please

chimi do the negativr

As a reward I wanna be a mentor

i want to level up faster

No

I CAN STILL GIVE YOU A -100 SUBJ RATING TO STOP YOUR SEASONAL RANKINGS

Chimera Shrimplain

But can I get mentor please

Use the negative booster as a threat to be a mentor

BESITE NOOO

ill mentor you if you do the negative

Jay is in charge of the mentorship program

Dan S. Assigned

Haven’t seen it I’ll add it to my list

oh. I've watched 5 out of the 9 Tarantino movies

XP Leaderboard

@Lyle P. Overworked has 75817 XP and is on Level 36.

NOT THE BRIBERY

Omg

Oh god its not moving

Ok

USE IT CHIPI

Boosters

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PLEASE

Do I get it or not

XP Leaderboard

@Thomas Sufferwell has 110313 XP and is on Level 44.

Who is making me mentor

i will

What condition

rn

I've caught up on the stuff here and in wolfpack. It was neat. My first times being not completely vanilla and I also had my first mayoral game. Yippee :3 (edited)

50x????

DO NOT DO IT

can someone explain what is happening?

18:43

I am so confused

Boosters

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this

Omgggg

BOOSTERS

Lmaoooooo

I’m dead

chimi i gave u mentor program

Parker Reluctance

I've caught up on the stuff here and in wolfpack. It was neat. My first times being not completely vanilla and I also had my first mayoral game. Yippee :3 (edited)

I was about to ask that lol did you have fun not being vanilla

well it might just be best to not do it

now do it

Omggg

18:43

Sorry

18:43

I have to do it now

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

NO DO NOT DO IT

yippie

chimi

Oh no

this is werewolves

It’s happening

Oh god

chaos

NO CHIMI

DO IT

I can’t

dont do it

I WILL GIVE YOU A -100 SUBJ RATING

its your right to gaslight jay

Noooo

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON

The server will be silenced

Thomas Sufferwell

I WILL GIVE YOU A -100 SUBJ RATING

ill ban him if he does this

PUNISH TOWN

Ts is threatening me

Boosters

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Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON

this

AVENGE US CHIPI

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON

50x exp multiplier and chimi might -1x it

Hahahaha

see above

Omg

18:43

I can’t decide

HR

ill ban him if he does this

ok

18:44

thats fine with me

Punish town for winning

and its for an hour wow

quick

What!

go ahead and do it

Dan S. Assigned

50x exp multiplier and chimi might -1x it

but what is the use of this multiplier?

someone buy

18:44

-1

I will be gone

Holy

from chimi'

18:44

now

what do we even do with the XP?

someone buy it

guys did i do good, im surprised i lived to the end

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

what do we even do with the XP?

LOOT BOXES

18:44

GACHA

What idk what to do

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Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

but what is the use of this multiplier?

You get exp faster so you can level up and get coins

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

what do we even do with the XP?

It gives coins every level up

GAMBA

Jay held up his end of the bargain

18:44

I..

Syntax error. Invalid subcommand buy!

...

Lmaoo

Captain Drafted

guys did i do good, im surprised i lived to the end

Congrats luffy

Boosters

@Charlotte C. Burntout, you do not have any boosters!

18:44

Boosters

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Chimera Shrimplain

Jay held up his end of the bargain

yeah point and laugh at him

yeh im still so much levels to get from last time

Boosters

@Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire, you do not have any boosters!

uglysmile

uglysmile

Chimi plz

I’m scared

Boosters

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18:44

Syntax error. Invalid subcommand gln1!

how do I buy a -1 booster?

@Chimera Shrimplain MONKEY PAW

18:44

use the -`

Don’t do it to me

-01

18:45

in the last second

I didn’t try to use it

use it when its 1 second of boost left

Someone else is being silly

monkey paw his ass

Werewolves Bot B

Click to see attachment 🖼️

we're already maxed out

Ok yall

18:45

Idk

18:45

What to do

Flip a coin

Thomas Sufferwell

we're already maxed out

i was checking to see if i had a negative

XP Leaderboard

@Lyle P. Overworked has 75817 XP and is on Level 36.

ah

did anyones xp go up at all yet lmao

XP Leaderboard

@Dan S. Assigned has 19369 XP and is on Level 18.

Head use it tail not use it

I AM NOT GETTING XP

Coin Flip

@Chimera Shrimplain, your coin flip landed on: HEADS.

Oh noooooo

USE IT

NOOO

Oh no

NOOOO

YESSSS

ts

# USE IT

delete

It’s cooked

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I have to use it now ..

TS DELETE THE MESSAGE

it was fair

Rng has spoken

THE BOT DIDNT SAY HEADS

Get messages in. Ow

Boosters

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Yuki Begrudgington

did anyones xp go up at all yet lmao

gotta send game relevant messages

Boosters

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Werewolves Bot B

Click to see attachment 🖼️

^ i hit him with a pipe

18:46

that was to dansan

18:46

not bot

Werewolves Bot B

Click to see attachment 🖼️

you are so getting meta killed next game

18:46

wait

18:46

lets limit test how well ts coded this

18:47

if i lose a lot of xp and gain it back do i get the rewards again

Boosters

@Thomas Sufferwell, you have activated a booster to multiply all gained XP by -1 for the next 1 hour(s) for everyone.

gibagul

Oh shit

Boosters

@Thomas Sufferwell, you do not have any boosters!

damn

woah

Boosters

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Are we back

Nooo

does it cancel

What

it cancels

i love how everyone shut up until ts did that

lets go(?)

yeah it cancels out

# THE REVERSE UNO

Lyle P. Overworked

I was about to ask that lol did you have fun not being vanilla

It was neat. Honestly I was close to vanilla, having a 1-shot ability. But I'm glad that Luffy helped me use it so I could prove myself ^-^ I was thinking I was going to be cit / cursed cit lmao

Oh I’m so dead

WOOOOOO WERE SO BACK

I’m so dead

LETS GO REVERSE UNO

I’m so dead

I also waited until now to post that hehe

WE ARE SO BACK

can i metakill chimi now

Who has another -1x???

I’m so dead

18:48

realsad

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

We're back baby

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18:48

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Wolf

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Chimera Shrimplain

I’m so dead

the axe forgets but the tree remembers...

WE ARE EATING

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

You leveled up go gamba!!!

Sharl is so real

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

LMAO THE TIMING

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

Sharl says, levelling up

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

i love that this is the message that got you up

Lmao

Lmao

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall need to get a fucking life outside of werewolves

never </3

Werewolves Bot B

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I DIDN"T OPEN ANYTHING? I DID NOT RUN ANY COMMAND?

i live breath eat wwr

Omg I wanted to change water for my shrimp tank

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

I DIDN"T OPEN ANYTHING? I DID NOT RUN ANY COMMAND?

Gamba gamba gamba

Now shrimp just chilling waiting for me

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

I DIDN"T OPEN ANYTHING? I DID NOT RUN ANY COMMAND?

what is happening?

Sticker

I think

is shrimp ded now

why did it randomly open a box for me?

cuz

Sometimes you get a free auto-opened loot

no water

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

what is happening?

just read the message dude

anyway we should go back to discussing the game

Some levels you get a free loot

@Lyle P. Overworked, you have activated a booster to multiply all gained XP by -1 for the next 1 hour(s) for everyone.

it tells you why

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

why did it randomly open a box for me?

reward

Hmm

Charlotte C. Burntout

is shrimp ded now

Shrimp will be dead next game

Light hates us talking

i was allowed to be metakilled when i did -1

18:49

i think chimi should also be metakilled

2

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18:49

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Charlotte C. Burntout

i think chimi should also be metakilled

Agreed

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Light trying to scare us smh

Wait it’s not my fault

Syntax error. Unknown command items!

LOL

Syntax error. Unknown command item!

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COOKED

There will be 1 minute where there's a negative boost

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No!!!!!

3 seasons of points debt to chimi

I wonder if people will fall for that trap

Insufficient Coins

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Blame rng (edited)

I'm going to post during it for sure

Nooooo

18:50

realsad

Syntax error. Unknown command items!

chimi you're gonna be WW Wood

Because lady luck hates me yippee

this also affects the average quite a bit

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Wood

18:50

Nooooooo

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18:50

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Thomas Sufferwell

this also affects the average quite a bit

RIP Chimi score

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18:50

Syntax error. Unknown command invertory!

Jay save me

O7 chimi

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realsad

18:50

It’s over.. my career is over

Parker Reluctance

RIP Chimi score

For reference Chimi was 0.001 point away from getting Platinum ranking

I still get to be a mentor

no less than that

thight

Lyle P. Overworked

For reference Chimi was 0.001 point away from getting Platinum ranking

18:51

Oh! Wow

thight

Chimera Shrimplain

I still get to be a mentor

But at what cost

Rip chimi platinum

well now hes about 44 points away (edited)

thight

Also why can't we react now

1

chimi was an infinitesimally small number away from platinum

Chimera Shrimplain

thight

Stop stealing my emote thight

thight

Thomas Sufferwell

this also affects the average quite a bit

this probably should count as bullying

Why can't we laugh at people who post during negative boost hour

Lyle P. Overworked

Also why can't we react now

We can :3

literally ANY positive number would've been enough for plat

Sorry Swurtle I didn’t know that’s yours

Parker Reluctance

We can :3

i cant

pensivegayblob

:givedu

Justice for Chimi ?

duckgive

thonk

Chimera Shrimplain

Justice for Chimi ?

no

What!

Boosters

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I was doing it for the people

well either way im not keeping the -100

WAIT

unfortunately

VERA

need more?

Nooooo

50 is the max

Thomas Sufferwell

well either way im not keeping the -100

Thomas Sufferwell

this also affects the average quite a bit

Looks like sabotage, holy crap what is that change QwQ

I'LL BUT YOUR 500 XP

Nooooo

nope we're maxed out

WOULD IT TURN 50X

Vera Ts is bullying me

TO +25,000

Can you save me

Well after the first hour passes we would need another one

gh0st

Looks like sabotage, holy crap what is that change QwQ

he only has himself to blame

we're already beyond x50

Someone save me

does the xp thing double?

To his mas again

gh0st

Looks like sabotage, holy crap what is that change QwQ

Chimi bullying us for talking

(/s)

well time to see

but 50 is the max

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18:52

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thight

pensivegayblob

its actually x112

Pensive gay blob

Wait xp!

If you get 500 xp during a x50 it should be 25,000 xp plus right

but it only does x50

I’m at work!

18:53

Nooooo

Boosters

@V. Byrdson Dutycall, you have used your booster to gain 500 XP.

Yes, xp time

i dont think these are affected

@HR

All the missing xp

Save me

XP Leaderboard

@V. Byrdson Dutycall has 93888 XP and is on Level 40.

xppppppp

Chimera Shrimplain

Save me

from what

That would be insane if that's how it worked

yeah no

18:53

it doesnt

But I doubt it (edited)

I’m watching jojo while yapping in here

Hmm

Ooo yeah it didn't

Ah rip

Sadge

From admin bullying

double -1

XP Leaderboard

@Lyle P. Overworked has 75817 XP and is on Level 36.

&xp

Command error. Invalid role xp!

what does that do

I'm getting ready to do some social deduction stuffs with some people I met at a con. Yippee

XP Leaderboard

@Chimera Shrimplain has 93449 XP and is on Level 40.

keep in mind only game related messages qualify at all

I STILL haven't gotten any xp

Huh???

18:54

Since when

Thomas Sufferwell

keep in mind only game related messages qualify at all

So these messages don’t count?

The angel despot thjng was cool

(edited)

XP Leaderboard

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Have fun pkr ^^

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Let’s talk about how everyone played this game

18:54

I think I did bad

18:54

But it’s ok

what role were you?

Good luck at work gh0st

i think we did really well

i think fish played really really bad

I did too

Scared wolf

ah

I was too obvious psychic

I dont remember you doing anything

Did fish even say anything

18:54

Exactly

I’m 7 hours into my 10 hour shift

Dan S. Assigned

I was too obvious psychic

Yup you were pretty obvious

Dan S. Assigned

I was too obvious psychic

You slipped lol you said your fake claim

im still suprised both scared dies in same lynch

Sad

Special Spanky pic for dead chat

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Chimera Shrimplain

Did fish even say anything

The only reason I know fish was in the game is due to swurtle's list

It was a bad situation

yea everyone was obvious in their fakeclaim at some point

I think a lot of this was moreso a case of good finding good tbh than wolves necessarily 'doing bad'

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Special Spanky pic for dead chat

Cute!!!!

18:55

Cute kitty

Thanks

Parker Reluctance

I think a lot of this was moreso a case of good finding good tbh than wolves necessarily 'doing bad'

ehhhhh

I dont think any wolf had any standout play tbh

Lyle P. Overworked

You slipped lol you said your fake claim

Tbh I had meant it to be a last minute thing to try to save chimi to ctc Yuki, didn’t mean it to be my claim

Need to work out a better strategy with www wolf pack

how come fish said "im bored, you wont give me info, so i wont claim" but also claim to psychopath

Parker Reluctance

I think a lot of this was moreso a case of good finding good tbh than wolves necessarily 'doing bad'

The UA and Solos decided the win We also accidentally killed a PP list member N1

But I think it got interpreted as my claim

i wouldnt say that town did extraordinary either

also how did i not die

Yea not really I mean I should’ve claimed TK

I’m surprised wolves didn’t just kill luffy with how open he was

We were busy killing

i havent had a chance to read

Www

gh0st

I’m surprised wolves didn’t just kill luffy with how open he was

cleric

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i wouldnt say that town did extraordinary either

luffy and kal did pretty damn well

Yuki Begrudgington

also how did i not die

If we killed you it just gives power to luffy

Oh

18:55

Cleric

Kal did good

gh0st

I’m surprised wolves didn’t just kill luffy with how open he was

It was between kal and luffy, and we knew Luffy wasn’t cciv

Yuki Begrudgington

also how did i not die

Good question

luffy did well bc he had psycho on his side

Kal should’ve stayed

Lyle P. Overworked

The UA and Solos decided the win We also accidentally killed a PP list member N1

True. But unfortunately with the psycho list, the psycho was mostly supposed to help town by getting out the non-towns too (edited)

i was fighting for my life

And we woulda won as wolf maybe prob not

kal was i think the only outstanding town

Psycho should prob have a more diverse list

V. Byrdson Dutycall

luffy did well bc he had psycho on his side

this was a huge help, but luffy did well either way

Bah also could we put out a notif about substitutions?

4 wolves 2 town lol

you can call any tt good but i think you gotta look at what they did and not the fact they're in tt

It was randomized but

Anyway I think I’m done yapping here

Yeah so many subs lately

At least I’ve become a mentor

18:56

uglysmile

I may be a sub next game

Can’t wait

V. Byrdson Dutycall

you can call any tt good but i think you gotta look at what they did and not the fact they're in tt

yeah obviously

luffy always does well and i dont think his performance this game was any different from the usual, thus to me not very outstanding

gh0st

I’m 7 hours into my 10 hour shift

Ouch, good luck!

V. Byrdson Dutycall

luffy always does well and i dont think his performance this game was any different from the usual, thus to me not very outstanding

no I disagree

gh0st

Bah also could we put out a notif about substitutions?

I don't think this is a bad idea. Between this game and last game it seems people have.. wanted subs a good bit more.

ive seen several unimpressive luffy games

Oh, the game ended.

18:57

Lol.

Yeah

Time to clock out

i really dont think leading tt is impressive when town gets handed the win

Parker Reluctance

I don't think this is a bad idea. Between this game and last game it seems people have.. wanted subs a good bit more.

Last game i understand people wanting to sub out this game idk why

and town got handed the win

i missplayed hard too

to be fair i felt like often time i did have to most of the theorizing myself, would have liked some more discussion from my fellow trusted

Yuki Begrudgington

i missplayed hard too

what are you on about i think you did insanely well

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Oh, the game ended.

Lmao most observant host

eh I don't think wolves did particularly well this time and I think luffy did reasonably well

V. Byrdson Dutycall

what are you on about i think you did insanely well

i told chimi im at

wolves had several moments where they didn't make the right choices

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Lmao most observant host

I know right! I gave about 5% to hosting this game.

gh0st

Bah also could we put out a notif about substitutions?

we have something planned already

Captain Drafted

to be fair i felt like often time i did have to most of the theorizing myself, would have liked some more discussion from my fellow trusted

thats the worst if youre tt and nobody is doing anything

and then added kal

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

I know right! I gave about 5% to hosting this game.

Best host ever

luffy had several moments where the right choice was unclear and he took the right choice

slight change of sub rules that we'll talk about more when i'm available and vera promotes

Yuki Begrudgington

i told chimi im at

That has actually been widely considered in dead spec as one of your best moves

and kept stein in until next night

Yuki Begrudgington

i told chimi im at

it made it impossible to kill you

18:59

in fact it really helped town

What's wolf going to do, kill you?

like if anyone get credit i think yuki and kal deserve it

at claiming to wolves was a particularly strong play this time (edited)

yeh thats accually

19:00

since i had a town and wolf i claimed to

19:00

cause cciv

our at claim died and we were not sure enough/wolf trusted didnt do anything?? to get an at ctc out there

19:00

we knew yuki was at and couldnt kill her bc we had no ctc

chimi already caused unnecessary linking beforehand

though apparently dansan said swurtle showed up as a threat, so even if he lived i wouldnt have trusted him

also dan creating more linking

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yup dan and chimi both took incorrect choices which exposed them

congrats

Captain Drafted

though apparently dansan said swurtle showed up as a threat, so even if he lived i wouldnt have trusted him

I thought it was a bait where psycho would disguise as a killing role

im going to have so much reading to do later

well psycho was priested and lived

19:01

so that would get you exposed

Captain Drafted

though apparently dansan said swurtle showed up as a threat, so even if he lived i wouldnt have trusted him

uh yea part of why i think you had it easy is bc youre right swurtle doesnt lie, so swurtles info as ua was reliable

those weren't "free" strategies from town side

of course swurtle wont disguise

Honestly, while being 'tt' might mean we already had our own space for trying to solve. I think tt did do quite well still. Yuki and Luffy found each other which was good, Sharl followed Luffy's plan which ended up being able to confirm me. Chains were being formed and we'd thought through what to do. I was there for if/when Luffy would die and was pleasantly surprised it didn't come to pass.

Idk I thought it was a town bait

and of course swurtle doesnt lie

Since Swurtle was working with town

Disguising isn't useful with so little investigative roles

also i still only used 1 cc

Parker Reluctance

Honestly, while being 'tt' might mean we already had our own space for trying to solve. I think tt did do quite well still. Yuki and Luffy found each other which was good, Sharl followed Luffy's plan which ended up being able to confirm me. Chains were being formed and we'd thought through what to do. I was there for if/when Luffy would die and was pleasantly surprised it didn't come to pass.

yes I agree

19:01

after scw double lynch nothing much interesting happened anymore

Thomas Sufferwell

yup dan and chimi both took incorrect choices which exposed them

yea the chimi was on me

but early game town did well and it wasn't just a free win

just about every wolf decision was on me

i think like 75% of my messages were in #shrimply-a-krill-issue

which makes it all the worse to be good

I didn't read absolutely everything, but I did keep up with a good chunk of ccs

V. Byrdson Dutycall

and of course swurtle doesnt lie

Snivy was suggesting I lie but working with Luffy I don’t think I can lie successfully cuz he can read me so easily

I really should have just used alpha power early that's my biggest regret

Thomas Sufferwell

I didn't read absolutely everything, but I did keep up with a good chunk of ccs

thats why you dont think wolves were outstanding smh we were all active in our normal sc

i didnt read anything

/j

I think I did the least with regards to the tt stuff this game when it comes to being town. I was there to mediate things and see what was going on and I used my ability when it was requested in order to be able to confirm myself, having wanted to find out a way to do so beforehand too. But I mean I was one of the more recent tt so I'm oki with it

The decisions wolves had to make where very difficult to choose the right answer imo

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Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Snivy was suggesting I lie but working with Luffy I don’t think I can lie successfully cuz he can read me so easily

swurtle everyone can read you easily. also you automatically trust people which makes it worse

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V. Byrdson Dutycall

thats why you dont think wolves were outstanding smh we were all active in our normal sc

Coal crashed out in their sc which was fun to read lol

you need to operate from a default of "everyone is lying to me"

Which is on town for forcing wolves into situations where they had to get the right choice

i dont like hearing we didnt do as well as town bc we were disadvantaged and fucked over by d2

swurtle did a good job not leaking info at least

V. Byrdson Dutycall

cleric

we both ended up protecting him at the same time tho

19:03

lol

it doesn't matter if people think you're lying to them as long as you always do it

i think as wolf team we did really well

Captain Drafted

swurtle did a good job not leaking info at least

YOU LEAKED MORE INFO TO FISH THAN I DID

I think wolf team did solidly still yeah

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i dont like hearing we didnt do as well as town bc we were disadvantaged and fucked over by d2

yeah but town had already outplayed wolves several times by then, which is why im saying town did well (edited)

Parker Reluctance

I think I did the least with regards to the tt stuff this game when it comes to being town. I was there to mediate things and see what was going on and I used my ability when it was requested in order to be able to confirm myself, having wanted to find out a way to do so beforehand too. But I mean I was one of the more recent tt so I'm oki with it

The chopper thing though lol Did you realize I was bandwagoning because I'm scum and wanted a town out

Chopper D. Drafted

we both ended up protecting him at the same time tho

yeh because the person meant to protect me was fake

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

YOU LEAKED MORE INFO TO FISH THAN I DID

true, but i dont think he sent a single message the entire game after that

Thomas Sufferwell

yeah but town had already outplayed wolves several times by then, which is why im saying town did well (edited)

still think that was mostly on www and psycho

Yuki Begrudgington

yeh because the person meant to protect me was fake

yea i was trying to suss out if me protecting luffy was redundant but ig there wasnt enough info to know

www and psycho made it a very easy win that's true

without swurtle siding town d1, we wouldnt have her being town dependent

Lyle P. Overworked

The chopper thing though lol Did you realize I was bandwagoning because I'm scum and wanted a town out

I'd certainly considered it as a possibility. But I wasn't too confident. I was just trying to relax since the first few days I just had nerves that I wasn't a citizen lmao

But that doesn't mean town didn't do well

if www and psycho took different decisions i think the game wouldve flipped over the other way easily

HR

you need to operate from a default of "everyone is lying to me"

Yeah also maybe if snivy was around more as my mentor that could have happened when I needed to make decisions he wasn’t around and yesterday he didn’t yap in my cc at all

Parker Reluctance

I'd certainly considered it as a possibility. But I wasn't too confident. I was just trying to relax since the first few days I just had nerves that I wasn't a citizen lmao

it just made me really think you were a wolf lol

I still find it funny how 1 cleric was pushing the other

i dont think the www n2 kill was necessarily a misplay bc when you're www, if you don't thin numbers early and then wolves get in a good position, you're fucked

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Yeah also maybe if snivy was around more as my mentor that could have happened when I needed to make decisions he wasn’t around and yesterday he didn’t yap in my cc at all

swurtle you can't expect a mentor to be online 24/7

19:05

you need to actually take accountability

V. Byrdson Dutycall

if www and psycho took different decisions i think the game wouldve flipped over the other way easily

Possibly, but disregarding www and psycho I saw several good town plays, but not any outstanding wolf plays

:/

HR

i dont think the www n2 kill was necessarily a misplay bc when you're www, if you don't thin numbers early and then wolves get in a good position, you're fucked

it was moreso a missplay for this game specifically

man i tried so hard

Yuki Begrudgington

it was moreso a missplay for this game specifically

misplay implies "bad play considering had information"

Chopper D. Drafted

it just made me really think you were a wolf lol

To be fair I had no mech at the start so had to go off vibes, at least I know now this is in your town range too :3 My apologies haha. But I mean, other tt thought you were evil because of cursed cit lying for a bit so oops.

in this case it was a play that turned out badly

the www claim organization strategy was interesting (edited)

19:06

but it didn't work out well

but it turned out badly bc of the d2 events

HR

misplay implies "bad play considering had information"

thats true toh

Thomas Sufferwell

Possibly, but disregarding www and psycho I saw several good town plays, but not any outstanding wolf plays

It also doesn't help that both subs are from wolves side too

Parker Reluctance

To be fair I had no mech at the start so had to go off vibes, at least I know now this is in your town range too :3 My apologies haha. But I mean, other tt thought you were evil because of cursed cit lying for a bit so oops.

yea it was just some bad circumstances

well the claim thing got us no double claims

worked out in the end tho

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:)

19:06

which was the big point

HR

you need to actually take accountability

I do take accountability for the actions I do maybe if I had a bit more patience to wait for my mentor to come online things would have been different but I want some autonomy at the same time

so it was succesful in that

19:06

exactly what it needed to be

yeah but tbh most wolves leaked their role anyway if anyone was paying attention

yea uh

V. Byrdson Dutycall

well the claim thing got us no double claims

im gonna need to find this

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I do take accountability for the actions I do maybe if I had a bit more patience to wait for my mentor to come online things would have been different but I want some autonomy at the same time

i think we should focus on the patience over the autonomy rn for your playstyle

that was bad

I think it was a good strategy and the only noteworthy thing I can think of wolves

but not on me

19:07

#not all wolves

19:07

/j

19:07

i think my organization was great

anyway good news guys we're having to change the rules again bc of luffy

and if its wasnt www i wouldve done better

What did luffy do this time

i think its funny that the 4 cleric claims were: 2 clerics and 2 cursed cits

also did coal know dan was psychic wolf?

and im glad i got wolf

HR

anyway good news guys we're having to change the rules again bc of luffy

What rule do you have to change beside sub rules lmao

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

What rule do you have to change beside sub rules lmao

we need to make it officially illegal to lie about the game rules

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

What rule do you have to change beside sub rules lmao

bot meta i assume

Captain Drafted

i think its funny that the 4 cleric claims were: 2 clerics and 2 cursed cits

yeh that confused the hell out of us

oh did he do that again

Yuki Begrudgington

also did coal know dan was psychic wolf?

Dansan slipped saying the fake claim we decided that only the psychic wolf should take

luffy lied about game rules to you/arch (though i believe accidentally) and then didn't correct himself

Parker Reluctance

To be fair I had no mech at the start so had to go off vibes, at least I know now this is in your town range too :3 My apologies haha. But I mean, other tt thought you were evil because of cursed cit lying for a bit so oops.

i was advocating lynching basil on the first day cuz i thought his cleric claim was statistically unlikely given that i am also cleric, so im surprised you didnt do the same

i lied to arch?

HR

luffy lied about game rules to you/arch (though i believe accidentally) and then didn't correct himself

About pp list being 50/50

uh idk

19:09

u said u did or smth

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

About pp list being 50/50

no about him killing a town for you

V. Byrdson Dutycall

but not on me

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1379433706653220904 I do think this to some degree gives you away tbh

HR

no about him killing a town for you

Oh…

Thomas Sufferwell

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1379433706653220904 I do think this to some degree gives you away tbh

i had to lol

19:09

but yea thats the only thing

Chopper D. Drafted

i was advocating lynching basil on the first day cuz i thought his cleric claim was statistically unlikely given that i am also cleric, so im surprised you didnt do the same

Yeah, I certainly considered that but Bass did back off of Cleric and onto Cit in a way which I think Bass would do as town too. In this case Bass was wolf and as soon as Bass ended up giving away Recluse I was super on board with murderising Bass lmao

HR

luffy lied about game rules to you/arch (though i believe accidentally) and then didn't correct himself

I mean he meant to do it tbh

its not dansan straight up outing

19:10

and chimi panicking

Thomas Sufferwell

I mean he meant to do it tbh

he definitely meant not to correct himself but i didnt feel able to force him to as a non-host

and outing

I think overall a good www would've probably picked out most of the list

Parker Reluctance

Yeah, I certainly considered that but Bass did back off of Cleric and onto Cit in a way which I think Bass would do as town too. In this case Bass was wolf and as soon as Bass ended up giving away Recluse I was super on board with murderising Bass lmao

yea having never experienced his playstyle i just assumed sus

Thomas Sufferwell

I think overall a good www would've probably picked out most of the list

any wolf could with this tbh

HR

he definitely meant not to correct himself but i didnt feel able to force him to as a non-host

yeah

also i uhhhh still have exams

19:11

so i should stop yapping

i was accually considering using my solo guarantator

V. Byrdson Dutycall

any wolf could with this tbh

im not sure if coal did

It's the tried and tested new meta of a town faking to counterclaim another town so wolves don't occupy that claimspace and then backing off to leave that one town as uncounterclaimed

i did :(

19:11

have some faith

19:11

i did eventually

Chopper D. Drafted

yea having never experienced his playstyle i just assumed sus

Ye, that's all good. Bass has mostly been evil in games I've been in. With the exception being where Bass immediately murdered me when I was Assassin. Hence the joke that had been running of me being almost forever cit-esque / dead

Lyle P. Overworked

It's the tried and tested new meta of a town faking to counterclaim another town so wolves don't occupy that claimspace and then backing off to leave that one town as uncounterclaimed

thats crazy lol i dont remember this ever being a strat

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395325604659291/1380136084851265557

It's new

19:11

Just introduced this season

Lyle P. Overworked

It's the tried and tested new meta of a town faking to counterclaim another town so wolves don't occupy that claimspace and then backing off to leave that one town as uncounterclaimed

scum can do this too tho

Chopper D. Drafted

thats crazy lol i dont remember this ever being a strat

it's new in this season but stems from a fed strat that COMPLETELY backfired, hilariously

fed moment

Yuki Begrudgington

scum can do this too tho

if you remember my chef hooker claim

fed moment

HR

it's new in this season but stems from a fed strat that COMPLETELY backfired, hilariously

sounds about right

im glad to have played the game

I'm glad the town fake claim strat has finally caught on

and i personally think my defense was considerable

HR

fed moment

Sticker

fed when he invents a new strat and then claims we're all being illogical idiots for not recognising how normal and common his strat is (he just invented it)

for anyone who didnt know the info like tt did, i think me fighting back was at least considerable

oh ive been a supporter of this strat from way before fed used it

Thomas Sufferwell

oh ive been a supporter of this strat from way before fed used it

yah

I think wolves were a biiiit toooo relaxed at the start though

Thomas Sufferwell

I'm glad the town fake claim strat has finally caught on

I think kal started it with dan and then i used it every game and now kal done it again

i think it was sort of... in a few people's consciousness?

19:13

i wasnt super aware of it but you were

19:13

and presumably fed was

Yuki Begrudgington

I think kal started it with dan and then i used it every game and now kal done it again

started earlier than that

All the talk of "wolves are op this list" got to our heads and we didn't try as desperately hard nor took as many risks

iirc was used a couple times in s12

V. Byrdson Dutycall

for anyone who didnt know the info like tt did, i think me fighting back was at least considerable

I do think there was definitely grounds for arguing against TT especially since they were elected swurtle as reporter

but it's been used like every game recently bc of kal

oh i just saw it only recently

yea i tried but i knew it was useless bc tt had info about me and trusted swurtle

Thomas Sufferwell

I do think there was definitely grounds for arguing against TT especially since they were elected swurtle as reporter

Hey, I tried voting for a good player for Repo :3

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a snipe wouldve worked, but not helped

and i remember it from the time kal and dan done it

but delaying the double lynch mightve granted us something

HR

i think it was sort of... in a few people's consciousness?

I have another even more evolved form of this strategy in mind

i had no plan further

hopefully we'll see it in s14

but anything to prevent that double scw lynch

Though its theoretical and idk if it makes sense

I think if the double lynch was delayed, it just gets us to lynch the mayor tbh.

i dont think I want to say it here though

When I got repo results I could have easily lied about them I just didn’t cuz I thought oh surely they won’t make me reporter and I need to gain trust lmao

Like we said what they were to do if good.

if the double lynch was delayed then also more town could have gotten on to vote too

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We tried so hard to tie the lynch

well yea

What’s happening

the snipe was stupid in hindsight

19:16

i can admit that

Well

19:16

I don’t know

either way I think you did well vera

but that double scw lynch was otherwise fully dooming us

Lyle P. Overworked

We tried so hard to tie the lynch

I noticed. Yall were hoping for a snipe

Thomas Sufferwell

I have another even more evolved form of this strategy in mind

i have my own strategy just need the right game for it

just not particularly exceptional

and i had to find a way out

though nobody did particularly exceptional

vera did just about everything that could be expected of them

I assume that means no tokens?

me defending is normal for me in every lynch tbh

HalfToken

Or at least not for wolves

i will fight back

19:17

i wont go down without a fight

Why is half token even a thing lol

19:17

I didn't expect that

Thomas Sufferwell

HalfToken

lol whos getting half token (edited)

unsure

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379420457211789403/1380306545287368704 the real role list

Thomas Sufferwell

i dont think I want to say it here though

dm me so i can not ever use it bc im scared

But I made it because I think I want some this time

Why even have the half token

The sad thing is that once again I failed to be a muwahahaha villain

19:18

I wanted to CC swurtle

19:18

And go "im a wolf, tell me who else is in your list"

Then why didn’t you lmao

I think

the infighting at the end was so funny

well its like "you did well but not enough to get a full one but we gotta credit you somehow" id assume?

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Then why didn’t you lmao

We had kal's list

Coal would’ve not voted

19:18

Even if sunny was on

yea he wouldnt have

Look at the cc

And it would’ve been the worst

i really think the dansan kill was the one deciding factor this game

It was all "yes lynch them both"

For sure

19:19

Yea

19:19

It’s sad

after that it was hopeless for wolves and www (edited)

We could’ve had it all

JOHN CENA

Lmao

Chimera Shrimplain

Coal would’ve not voted

so true

Lmaooo

19:19

So true

19:19

and maybe kal straight up subbing out but thats beyond control and thus shouldnt be considered

That’s true

19:20

Killing Kal was the only right move

19:20

The rest was just meh

the thing with subs is that the subbed out player, especially an active one, just has more info and ideas in their head

N1 we killed a cit AND BLACKLISTED THE ASSASSIN LMAO

Ouu mafia game

carrying on as a substitute is so difficult

Lmao I know

19:20

We should’ve just killed sharl

Lyle P. Overworked

N1 we killed a cit AND BLACKLISTED THE ASSASSIN LMAO

How do you accidentally blacklist someone lmao

Hindsight is always 2020

19:21

It’s a roll we did

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

How do you accidentally blacklist someone lmao

checked as non cciv

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

How do you accidentally blacklist someone lmao

We were looking for cursed civ

it was on purpose

why would u kill sharl if you investigated him

yea exactly

19:21

if he was cciv we wouldve killed

19:21

otherwise we would rule him out

though im wondering why stein exposed chimi there in the last 40min

Oh yea and bass trying to kill me

This could have been another game in a row where assassin gets killed n1

Was great

19:21

Bass just hated me

Captain Drafted

though im wondering why stein exposed chimi there in the last 40min

You mean bass?

no chimi

And thought I was annoying

bass was just saying a random name

19:22

it meant nothing

Wait when did stein out chimi

Lyle P. Overworked

You mean bass?

stein said chimi claimed cciv (edited)

No bass told me he hated me and wanted me dead lmao

The random names he said ended up being wolves tho lmao

Lmao

19:22

It’s ok

19:22

It’s over now

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Idk why Ts did this and left

19:23

Didn’t even care to chat

19:23

Sigh

Booster party

19:23

Nuff said

what

Come chat

I got 6000 xp so far

what was your actual claim tho @Chimera Shrimplain

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It was cciv

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Should’ve been TK tho

19:24

Lmao

oh yehh... (edited)

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But pack decided against it it’s alright

I have very similar XP to Swurtle. Neat

It’s fine

I'm a bit surprised luffy believed my cciv claim for as long as I was alive

Parker Reluctance

I have very similar XP to Swurtle. Neat

Twinning

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I’ll take a break from gaming and just mentor instead

Is it because of time shenanigans

yeh but if stein told us like a bit later that chimi is cciv we would have only double lynched vera

Lyle P. Overworked

Is it because of time shenanigans

Time threw a good bit off for town trusted that game honestly. Ended up making us think you were decently good and that chopper was evil

Oh yeah

No!!!

Lyle P. Overworked

I'm a bit surprised luffy believed my cciv claim for as long as I was alive

you had no counter claims cuz of time claiming cleric

Lyle P. Overworked

Is it because of time shenanigans

yeh you were the only claim

I told stein not to tell you the claim lmao

Time apparently didn't realize claiming Cleric fucks over the real Cleric, I guess?

19:25

well claiming to TT I mean

I feel like Time was playing for Time. Not for Town

Anything to survive

19:26

Yup

19:26

He played to his own win, not team wincon

And I saw that you'd discussed this with Time in the private CC, TS. So I can say I agree with what you'd said there x3

isnt this take three

19:26

of the same

19:26

convo

19:26

cries

i mean what time did was good at getting himself the win

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so i dont fully blame him

XP BOOSTER

it just made us kill a cleric

Ayo another booster

Nah it doesn't help

sadness

It doesn't get x50

mb gang

It's just a flat 500 xp

19:27

We tried it with vera earlier

Charlotte C. Burntout

convo

It very much might be take 3 of the same convo. I hadn't really been participating in take 1 or 2 of such though ;3 (edited)

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379856048420028477/1380203269996937216 chimi outed (edited)

Captain Drafted

i mean what time did was good at getting himself the win

Sounded like this is not what he was going for

tbh with cursed cit i understand claiming cleric and i dont think its super against team spirit

HR

tbh with cursed cit i understand claiming cleric and i dont think its super against team spirit

No it's good

19:27

Cleric is a solid claim to go for

if you're a role where you know town might lynch you at any time, you have a duty to try and prevent yourself getting lynched without complicating claims too much

19:28

so claiming a multix makes sense

yeah I think cleric is a good choice

And we all know Cit claims are lame and only wolves go for those

if wolves here they may also not attack you if there currently is no mayor

yup

my issue was mainly with intentionally letting chopper die

19:28

But it sounds like he didn't mean for this to intentionally happen

I was not told of other claims

Interesting how my pp got both town were cits

yea i dont blame him there. but when he got into town trusted, he saw the full claim list, and he knew we were assassinating chopper cuz of his claim

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I will say when I saw the rolelist originally, I thought for sure I'd draw cursed civ, so I was just getting ready for having to try and win as town and then to save face after I get attacked and turned to wolf

Captain Drafted

yea i dont blame him there. but when he got into town trusted, he saw the full claim list, and he knew we were assassinating chopper cuz of his claim

Didn’t see the full list

Oh yeah at game start there was a weird thing where the bot dm'd me 3 times

T. I. Mennow

Didn’t see the full list

It was pinned

I was so sure my role was going to get rerolled

Didn’t check pinned

But no it was always just alpha wolf

T. I. Mennow

Didn’t see the full list

Sticker

I played to my win con

19:30

Don’t use roles that encourage fake claiming as town is my reply

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T. I. Mennow

Don’t use roles that encourage fake claiming as town is my reply

no it's good and sexy

Lyle P. Overworked

Oh yeah at game start there was a weird thing where the bot dm'd me 3 times

Lmao. Light gets 3 sets of being alpha wolf. The one time I had a double dm for the game, it was due to a rerack and I went from being Baroness to being Assassin

and u played right except for uhhh not checking info

very sexy

Lol this is Psychopath Erasure

19:31

#story-time

HR

and u played right except for uhhh not checking info

So why did host tell me I was not playing to win con?

Lyle P. Overworked

Lol this is Psychopath Erasure

WOW TURTLE

So I played right but I played wrong ?

Well, Psychopath is not an enemy of the Townsfolk, so no reason to mention them.

T. I. Mennow

So why did host tell me I was not playing to win con?

They never did

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Well, Psychopath is not an enemy of the Townsfolk, so no reason to mention them.

True

“I should probably clarify that you have to 100% play for your current alignment (town) - you may not take actions that would help you if you were to become wolf at a later point”

But I'm nice to Swurtle and Light uwu

To think Swurtle's win-loss depended on a coin flip

T. I. Mennow

“I should probably clarify that you have to 100% play for your current alignment (town) - you may not take actions that would help you if you were to become wolf at a later point”

I did say that to you, true

T. I. Mennow

“I should probably clarify that you have to 100% play for your current alignment (town) - you may not take actions that would help you if you were to become wolf at a later point”

This means I’m not playing town no?

Parker Reluctance

But I'm nice to Swurtle and Light uwu

Aw thanks

It does not

19:32

I just wasn't sure if you were intentionally letting chopper die or not

19:33

if you intentionally let chopper die I feel like this is crossing the line a bit

19:33

I provided the same info to kal as well

It's always a bit stressful seeing hosts directly confront a player, even as a spectator

is it just that hes being anti-town?

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Many people don't know precisely how to play as CCiv

19:33

so I provide info on how you should play

yea dw time, you were fine

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I mean was I wasn’t I game throwing in getting mixed replies

Already at max 50x

19:34

Adding another booster won't do anything

oh it accually shows what its at

Only 6 mins more of max time

I was told during game im not 100% playing to win con but others say its a valid strategy ?

T. I. Mennow

I mean was I wasn’t I game throwing in getting mixed replies

Like I said you are constructing arguments and accusations against yourself

T. I. Mennow

I was told during game im not 100% playing to win con but others say its a valid strategy ?

You were not told this

T. I. Mennow

So why did host tell me I was not playing to win con?

i mean ts has clarified already but in general sometimes if info isnt coming from an admin it isnt correct

19:34

i wish this wasnt true but it is

Lyle P. Overworked

Adding another booster won't do anything

but after the hour ones run out i want to use mine

You were only told you have to play 100% according to your alignment

But why say I need to play to win con ? Is that not implied

Oooo nice yuki

Surely im missing something

There was no info on how you were playing currently

Yuki Begrudgington

but after the hour ones run out i want to use mine

So that'd be 28x left huh

Light don’t you have a x10 one

I don't

T. I. Mennow

But why say I need to play to win con ? Is that not implied

Sure, sort of

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Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Light don’t you have a x10 one

chimi has 10x

With CCiv the thing is people may not realize they should 100% commit to town

19:36

Many players are more like some sort of effort but not much

19:36

Even this is not gamethrowing tbh

19:36

But we don't want that

as cciv you gotta play 100% to your alignment and as long as you havent turned, thats townsfolk

So I provide info on how we expect cciv to be played

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To me a host telling me I have to play 100% to win con is im not doing that but someone else says I was playing right So surely you can see the confusion

Kal got similiar info

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yeh i also pointed it out d1

OH DAMN

19:36

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yes

19:36

you did

19:36

l,ma o

T. I. Mennow

To me a host telling me I have to play 100% to win con is im not doing that but someone else says I was playing right So surely you can see the confusion

Yeah your actions can be interpreted either way

that cciv should play to allingment

I cannot say during the game "Killing Chopper intentionally would not really be ok"

19:37

Because idk if you know you're doing that

Yeah because it would be host info that chopper is town

So I give you a general info that lets you know what we expect

19:37

If you tehn realize that you are not committing 100% to town you can adjust behaivor

19:37

If you believe you are already doing this then you can move along

we could have also mentioned it and pinged what we were doing

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Cries

Like?

19:38

In TT?

19:38

The whole discussion happened while you guys were talking about whether to lynch Time or not

correct me if im wrong, but light are you on a wolf streak

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WHY

-# but isnt being antitown just a valid strat everywhere

Captain Drafted

correct me if im wrong, but light are you on a wolf streak

Sadly I can't check because of the way the channels in archive are structured (off seasons are separated and stuff)

Captain Drafted

correct me if im wrong, but light are you on a wolf streak

no light was herald in the roring wolf game

But I think I was town one game

you can check bot dms

Lyle P. Overworked

But I think I was town one game

2 games ago

So the streak is at best 2x

So pretty much I was fine and people are just sadge at me

During the game Hosts are often locked into giving info in very strange ways as to not give anything away

Solo, town, wolf, wolf

19:40

So not really a streak

T. I. Mennow

So pretty much I was fine and people are just sadge at me

Yes

Just wolf twice

when were you solo

Horseman

And even if you were intentionally letting Chopper die over yourself it's not like a extremly huge offense

The game where wolves became TT

its just something where I would like you to adjust playstyle in the future

19:40

But once again I can't say that directly while ingame as it gives info away

Lyle P. Overworked

The game where wolves became TT

oh yeh

19:41

i remember that

19:41

i gave wolves tt

My first solo role ended too quick

19:41

Day 2 end wasnt it

yeh

19:42

after d2 or n3

19:42

but d2 was last full day

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There's a 1 minute period of full negative

ah but its not that bad tho

Luffy got -50,000 one time

but that was only once

Or something like that

and it was -2600

T. I. Mennow

To me a host telling me I have to play 100% to win con is im not doing that but someone else says I was playing right So surely you can see the confusion

I mean, we also clarified to the other CCiv to what extent they should play to their win-con because they were unsure and we've had issues with CCiv not playing to their win-con in their past, so I think it's more or less that.

So it sounds more like a role problem

19:44

If it keeps happening

yea cciv has been problematic for a long time

Yeah, people hate on CCiv, but it's my favorite role.

i personally dont think its hard to hard play for one side and hard play for another when converted

19:45

youre essentially just a cit

I think the issue with CCiv is the inherent mistrust town will always have in it

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play as a cit in the way cit isnt baiting but more ensuring a town win

the old cursed cit turned you into a role called packless wolf

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Hey chat mafia wolves has signups open

So true.

Go play

people want to have a impact and be involved with TT but CCiv means you will never get full trust or access

oooh its almost over watch out now

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oh it just goes to -1 not -28?

WERE SO BACK

Phew

there we go

Yuki Begrudgington

oh it just goes to -1 not -28?

looks like I capped it at -1 to 50 back then

mafia server has signups open

which is a very geneours negative cap

Thomas Sufferwell

which is a very geneours negative cap

yeh

So it's less negative and more a nullifier

https://discord.gg/M69bCtKA

Invite to join a server

Mafia in Wolvespine

signups-tg3

yall jobless af

better than -2600

honestly

its saturday

It's 1:47 AM lol

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On a Sunday

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

honestly

What?

im on sick leave

I am jobless, but wow.

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall jobless af

i didnt even play the game why am i catching devious strays

and was on my hollidays last week

Lyle P. Overworked

It's 1:47 AM lol

Light! Get some sleep aaaaa

No!

19:48

I have to finish my quantum homework thing

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

yall jobless af

single funniest thing tbh

sleep is for the weak

I almost wish Quantum was here so I could ask

like youre so right sharl

19:48

lmao

Aleeeeeeeeex

i didnt even play the game why am i catching devious strays

can you tell me that you don't deserve to have caught that stray?

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That hit a bit too close to home

quantum is ironically not good at quantum physics

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quantum is ironically not good at quantum physics

ikr!

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

can you tell me that you don't deserve to have caught that stray?

ive applied for a lot of positions already

Oh

i have a full time job pensivebread

pensivebread

19:49

but its saturday

19:49

im allowed to spend my free time on discord

I'm surprised I got through the game without getting subbed ngl.

i wish i could get a full time job for the summer

Thomas Sufferwell

i have a full time job pensivebread

pensivebread

oooh where's my unemployed students gang at

im jobless and the government grants me enough to live off of >:)

Full time job gang!

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

oooh where's my unemployed students gang at

yeaaaaa

ive worked consistently since i was like 17 or so arguably

for some reason, I keep thinking Ts is much younger than me

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

oooh where's my unemployed students gang at

if i was unemployed id be living on the streets

i quit my job like 3 months ago

~~if you count playing minecraft as working~~

Thomas Sufferwell

~~if you count playing minecraft as working~~

lmao

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

lmao

i got paid

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i quit my job like 3 months ago

:O

Thomas Sufferwell

i got paid

oh damn nice

i work part time, though im also going back to school

Captain Drafted

i work part time, though im also going back to school

niiccee

ive been with my current company for a bit over 5 years now

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

:O

dont recommend working in a bar during a busy school period

ah I see

19:51

I don't drink

19:51

so idt I'll be working in a bar

i worked full time during my final year of bachelors which was an extremly unhealthy year for me

understandable

19:52

ok Imma go back to studying for my exams. babai

good luck with your exams!

cya, good luck

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

oooh where's my unemployed students gang at

Student yes, unemployed technically yes, though I earn money from commissions

thanks!

Thomas Sufferwell

i worked full time during my final year of bachelors which was an extremly unhealthy year for me

how ive struggeled on 3 days work 3 days collage this year

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

so idt I'll be working in a bar

yea good on you tbh

Thomas Sufferwell

~~if you count playing minecraft as working~~

definitely it is

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

ok Imma go back to studying for my exams. babai

good luck! i went through my exams last few weeks and it was tough

Guess I'm not getting any more xps today

Yuki Begrudgington

how ive struggeled on 3 days work 3 days collage this year

yeah idk

I used (till only a couple of months ago) have a full time job then did another 40 - 60 hours a week of work on a couple of other major projects mostly voluntary

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NO

19:53

THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MY XP

19:53

Give it baaaack

lmao light

I wanna do some certs this year but I really cant get back the motivation to do any studying anymore after work

just getting unlucky

idk how i did uni and fulltime work for a year

Fulltime?!

and then right after I did another cert fsr

im going back to studying at a school notorious for being extremely difficult with about 50% of students leaving first year :/

and the best part was I had a fulltime course during the semester holidays of that year

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

I'm surprised I got through the game without getting subbed ngl.

Well, there was no-one to substitute you with, so

‍♂️

Thomas Sufferwell

idk how i did uni and fulltime work for a year

Wow, that's insane.

yeah so my motiviation to go back to any sort of studying has gone to like -100

Understandable.

i love studying bc it gives me rhythm

I might try to go for some easy certs this year so I'll have at least done something

like hell yea i get up at 6 and do my silly lil life things

i hate exams

yeah I think having some structure is good

I always feel regret knowing I entered a not so good college intentionally so that the students there are below my level just so I can be proud how smarter I am

so im in a course where its only projects

When as you can see here I'm not even that good at playing

its what fucked me over during my internships bc my internship company didnt require me to do anything...

i just went to the local uni but its the best one in germany lol

Makes me think I misplayed my life

Thomas Sufferwell

i just went to the local uni but its the best one in germany lol

casual flex lol

but it is actually genuinely horribly bad

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i love studying bc it gives me rhythm

True, but right now my rhythm is like being productive for the week and then procrastinating every weekend.

lmaoo

Thomas Sufferwell

i just went to the local uni but its the best one in germany lol

TUM right, lol?

V. Byrdson Dutycall

casual flex lol

I cannot describe how bad it is

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

TUM right, lol?

yup

no i get it

its more of an anti flex for germany

My friend's brother is doing bachelor's in IT there I think rn

Bad as in hard or bad as in too difficult

ts do you have wwr on your resume

my bf said he went to a good uni and then said it sucked so bad he went back to his previous one

Lyle P. Overworked

Bad as in hard or bad as in too difficult

no not hard

Captain Drafted

ts do you have wwr on your resume

i dont have a real resume

19:57

since ive been with this company for 5 years

i mean do you need one if you have a stable job

Absorbed after ojt?

19:58

Or I guess they call it internship

and from what i hear ts has a pretty stable job

did he not use a resume to get hired

They have my initial resume from when I started as a student which has like nothing of note

19:58

and they have my updated resume which contains no updates(?) from when I became fulltime

yay town

yehhhh i dont think ill ever find a stable job

but this was before I finsihed my bachelors

Cookie Dreadwaters

yay town

The N1 Kill!

Cookie Dreadwaters

yay town

we won for you

ocean carried

19:58

clearly

yuh

Are you trying to find a new job

Captain Drafted

did he not use a resume to get hired

I worked in the warehouse for a short time when I was early in my studies

Ts you do sysadmin stuff right?

then they realized I was studying Informatics and moved me to IT

19:59

so I never really had a serious application

Oh wow

in canada exam season is in april so its odd seeing the europeans doing exams now

lol

Then the entire IT team quit

Lmao

oh noo

Captain Drafted

in canada exam season is in april so its odd seeing the europeans doing exams now

exam season is may here technically

20:00

well in the netherlands

Dan S. Assigned

Ts you do sysadmin stuff right?

yup im a sys admin

Exam season as in college entrance exams or finals

though I do a bunch of programming as well

we did it early june bc my school sucks

Ah my break is over

Lyle P. Overworked

Exam season as in college entrance exams or finals

finals for me

there isnt even entrance exams in canada

It's 2 AM time for my 5th coffee of the day

theres no entrance exams here

Bai bai

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My friend's brother is doing bachelor's in IT there I think rn

I genuinely would not recommend Informatics at TUM

Lyle P. Overworked

Bai bai

Sleep well!

Unless you want to learn everything on your own

Dan S. Assigned

Sleep well!

No I'm staying up for another 36 hours

Dan S. Assigned

Sleep well!

he said hes getting coffee, not sleeping lol

Looool

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They have way too many students and its genuinely shit

Oh ok

MY XP

20:01

STOP

lmao

GIVE IT TO ME SO I CAN GO ON BREAK

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The hardest part was finding a supervisor for my thesis, no joke

light didnt get it again

the school in belgium im going to has no limit on the student either lmao

Yeah, I heard that there are so many students and stuff.

Thomas Sufferwell

The hardest part was finding a supervisor for my thesis, no joke

Oof

Thomas Sufferwell

The hardest part was finding a supervisor for my thesis, no joke

Oh oh what was your thesis like? I'm actually interested in that

but they filter itself out after a year bc its apparently just that tough to study in Belgium

Meanwhile my course consists of like 15 people

my school was kinda dirty. they have more students in 1st year than they have capacity for, so only the top something% makes it to 2nd year and the rest get cut

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Yeah, I heard that there are so many students and stuff.

iirc we had double the amount of the max capacity in my first semester

20:02

so capacity for the biggest room was 600?

Yikes!

and there were like 1300-1400 students

ive been bouncing around my courses ive done 2 years then switched

Wow.

20:02

I can't even imagine that.

Thomas Sufferwell

so capacity for the biggest room was 600?

mine was like 3000

I know TUM built a bigger room since then

We have 20 students in our course...

so idk how it is now

Wow that’s a lot

20:03

Mine is like 400

Lyle P. Overworked

We have 20 students in our course...

Yeah, mine caps at 20 lol, we're 15.

You get the smaller courses as well but they're overcrowded as well

i think the biggest capacity room at mine is like 190

Smaller course is good

BS CS with only 20 people

Usually each lecture has small courses connected to it as well for exercises

This is actually on the bigger side

But even those are usually way over capacity

20:03

At least the good time slots

Sounds kinda nightmareish.

They have like idk 30-40 small courses

Cooo

20:04

Cool

But its way too few still

honestly small course is better

Even that would only fit half the students

yea i discovered that big classrooms is not the best learning environment

So you get the courses where people dont have anywhere to sit

you get to know everybody

For sure

Thomas Sufferwell

So you get the courses where people dont have anywhere to sit

only like 20% of people even showed up to class for me

I agree

Captain Drafted

only like 20% of people even showed up to class for me

yeah makes sense

Smaller classes are superior

Well

which uni did you go to chimi

But even with people not showing up everything is so overcrowded I just also stopped going

York

was it yorkl

20:05

knew it

Yorks cool

I can only say it feels like I'm a man dying of thirst watching people drown in water

i did uoft

Very cool!

york is better for sure

Did you enjoy it there

not at all

Chimera Shrimplain

York

I’m going there

If I get a lecturer who reads the script only and answers no questions and an overcrowded excercises where you don't really get any benefit I can just read the script myself and do the exercise myself

Lyle P. Overworked

I can only say it feels like I'm a man dying of thirst watching people drown in water

In what sense

20:05

No way better than uoft

Emkay Forceme

I’m going there

Omg exciting

Chimera Shrimplain

In what sense

We don't even have a large classroom or whatever because the island I'm on is poor

I’m still around I’m doing my masters

Thomas Sufferwell

If I get a lecturer who reads the script only and answers no questions and an overcrowded excercises where you don't really get any benefit I can just read the script myself and do the exercise myself

Agreed

Oh rough

20:06

So your classes are really small?

20 people in my entire course

I’ll prob see mkay maybe

I had something like 5(?) lectures through the entire thing that were worth attending at most

Oh wow

20:06

School isn’t always great

Everything else is just reading out the material you can get from the lecture script as well

Our classroom is about the size of a car's parking spot

I mean Ts you knew how to code before

Maybe 2 cars wide

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Yeah, mine caps at 20 lol, we're 15.

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I didn’t know how to code at all

It was super new for me

Thomas Sufferwell

Everything else is just reading out the material you can get from the lecture script as well

Yeah I had some profs where I’d skip their lectures because it was never anything useful

Chimera Shrimplain

I mean Ts you knew how to code before

yeah though it's like 1/5th programming I think

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Aleeeeeeeeex

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lmao??

Congrats

Aleeeeeeeeex

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What does this mean?

Chimera Shrimplain

I’ll prob see mkay maybe

different campus i think

332 people signed up to the cours

Mkay in the Glendon?

20:07

Omg

20:07

Wild

I would say Informatics for me was 1/5th programming, 1/5th theoretical informatics, 1/5th maths, 1/5th things that are more sysadminy and 1/5th unrelated extra subjects

the french one

out of 211 available places

I see

Aleeeeeeeeex

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yeah seems believeable

Maybe I should transfer unis I feel so left out

Engineering had more fluff

20:08

But I like school

20:08

Come to Canada

Lyle P. Overworked

Maybe I should transfer unis I feel so left out

what do you do?

I don't even have money to fly domestic

I do not like masters and doing research tho

Yuki Begrudgington

what do you do?

BS CS

I’ll come and grab you in a boat

i feel like i learn better by reading textbooks than in a classroom

semester 1 class

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I'm guessing the way they rate unis has very little to do with the Bachelor experience

Omg

Is it about the graduates researches stuff

You’re in the Pacifics

Thomas Sufferwell

If I get a lecturer who reads the script only and answers no questions and an overcrowded excercises where you don't really get any benefit I can just read the script myself and do the exercise myself

So true.

Thomas Sufferwell

I'm guessing the way they rate unis has very little to do with the Bachelor experience

its usually based on research

Chimera Shrimplain

Engineering had more fluff

idk i hated enginnering

We can boat to the west coast of Canada

Captain Drafted

its usually based on research

yeah which doesnt matter to you if you're doing bachelors

Engineering is a lot of math and physics

Thomas Sufferwell

I'm guessing the way they rate unis has very little to do with the Bachelor experience

i think its about the whole course usually

I love math tho

Aleeeeeeeeex

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lol?

Chimera Shrimplain

We can boat to the west coast of Canada

Travel literally 10,000 km lol

we started with like 700 people in informatics and the biggest lecture hall has like 600 capacity

20:09

but i started in covid

i have the same with the uni i wanna go to

so we had 3 groups of 200 (edited)

Everyone studying informatics.

and took turns

Chimera Shrimplain

Engineering is a lot of math and physics

i dropped out cause of the physics

Lyle P. Overworked

Travel literally 10,000 km lol

That’s what the shipping containers go through we can do it

Yuki Begrudgington

i dropped out cause of the physics

What are you studying now?

Chimera Shrimplain

That’s what the shipping containers go through we can do it

Ah human trafficking, my cousin got into one

Chimera Shrimplain

What are you studying now?

Game design

Lyle P. Overworked

Ah human trafficking, my cousin got into one

Hm..

its the top in it subject but only half of the first year actually goes to 2nd year

Yuki Begrudgington

Game design

Oh that’s so cool !!

Lyle P. Overworked

Oh oh what was your thesis like? I'm actually interested in that

mine was on testing a new feature for static analyzeses and then basically a report on what we were testing and how the tests worked out. didnt really interest me at all

Yuki Begrudgington

Game design

Ooo fun I’m a game dev

1

Exposing lights cousin

Chimera Shrimplain

Oh that’s so cool !!

yeh im really enjoying it

I’m happy for you yuki

Yuki Begrudgington

Game design

im studying game art rn!

1

i had a degree in game design but there wasnt really courses for it. its just a checkbox you click on for what the specialty is

All the best

it was the same courses for every specialty

Thomas Sufferwell

mine was on testing a new feature for static analyzeses and then basically a report on what we were testing and how the tests worked out. didnt really interest me at all

Oooh that sounds super computer-y (i'm sorry i don't know the actual english word)

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i think its about the whole course usually

if my bachelor experienced was supposed to be any good then thats really sad for germany

analyzeses

I love that we just gloss over the human trafficking allegation

lmaoo

Chimera Shrimplain

I love that we just gloss over the human trafficking allegation

the what

Well

Chimera Shrimplain

I love that we just gloss over the human trafficking allegation

just another day in wwr

Now idk if I should bring attention to it

20:11

So real

I misread and thought light was studying human trafficking

Captain Drafted

i had a degree in game design but there wasnt really courses for it. its just a checkbox you click on for what the specialty is

i mean still a degree in it tho (edited)

Lmao

i had a lovely pizza this evening

We're going to do thesis starting next semester and the professors require us to include AI or ML in it

also i commit tax evasion

What kind

20:12

What kind of pizza

Aleeeeeeeeex

also i commit tax evasion

Okay but what flavor is the pizza

Lyle P. Overworked

We're going to do thesis starting next semester and the professors require us to include AI or ML in it

I hate research

mozzarella, tomatoes and basil

HATE

20:12

ouuuu

Lyle P. Overworked

Oooh that sounds super computer-y (i'm sorry i don't know the actual english word)

it was a bad topic for me because I hadnt taken any related lectures nor did I really know the programming language (ocaml)

Sounds lovely

i thought you despise the pizza

but it was the best I was able to get

Thomas Sufferwell

if my bachelor experienced was supposed to be any good then thats really sad for germany

i almost applied for a uni in germany until they wanted my documents translated to english and by the time i had that, the deadline for applications was closed

No no

20:12

Not the pizza

20:12

pensivegayblob

20:12

Pensive gay blob

Lyle P. Overworked

We're going to do thesis starting next semester and the professors require us to include AI or ML in it

oh I specifically ignored all AI/ML chairs

20:13

I only applied to non AI/ML chairs

20:13

actually idk if the term is chair it sounds wrong

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i almost applied for a uni in germany until they wanted my documents translated to english and by the time i had that, the deadline for applications was closed

RIP? Or for the best? What city did you want to apply to?

chairs?

Thomas Sufferwell

it was a bad topic for me because I hadnt taken any related lectures nor did I really know the programming language (ocaml)

If you were to do it again what research topics would you be more interested in now that you have a lot of experience? I'm sorry if I sound like I'm basically interviewing you I don't get a lot of chance to ask stuff like this

20:14

My school doesn't have the best examples for me to go off of

A lot of research has ai elements now

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

RIP? Or for the best? What city did you want to apply to?

kinda bummed out about it but i might try again next semester if the uni in belgium sucks

Lyle P. Overworked

If you were to do it again what research topics would you be more interested in now that you have a lot of experience? I'm sorry if I sound like I'm basically interviewing you I don't get a lot of chance to ask stuff like this

By the time I got to my thesis I had realized that I definitely dont want to pursue programming as a job tbh

The "best research" went to an AI image identification for sick plant leaves

My research is in DevOps

I lost interest in studying informatics 2 semesters in ngl

it wouldve been in darmstadt (not TU)

But everything needs AI

machine language is one of the most complicated (if not the most) fields

V. Byrdson Dutycall

it wouldve been in darmstadt (not TU)

Oh cool! Sad, but good luck if you apply there again

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AI is boring

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Oh cool! Sad, but good luck if you apply there again

wouldve been ideal bc its close to where my bf lives whahaha

Frankfurt area, yeah

no but i was interested in their game design course

20:15

heard good things about it

Lyle P. Overworked

If you were to do it again what research topics would you be more interested in now that you have a lot of experience? I'm sorry if I sound like I'm basically interviewing you I don't get a lot of chance to ask stuff like this

I think in the end you have to know if anything interests you

Chimera Shrimplain

AI is boring

well not every, generative ai is the bad stuff

i took a ML course but my computer took 13 hours to run the code for the assignment, so i had to drop the course

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Nothing interested me so it made it tough to find something

Idk just numbers I don’t like numbers

Because for every application I made up new lies of how im so interested

But i get why it’s important

20:16

ML is a good field easier to find job

Thomas Sufferwell

Because for every application I made up new lies of how im so interested

every job application ever

Thomas Sufferwell

I think in the end you have to know if anything interests you

I've been following acoustic levitation research since highschool and even e-mailed one of the researches in university of bristol about it, so I do have some idea what I want to try. But it's mostly hardware and electronics engineering so I'm not too confident in it being a CS thesis so I've been trying to ask around for alternatives to be honest

uh yeah never changing jobs so I can avoid applying, I guess

Lmao

Thomas Sufferwell

uh yeah never changing jobs so I can avoid applying, I guess

This is me

do you like your job

Lyle P. Overworked

I've been following acoustic levitation research since highschool and even e-mailed one of the researches in university of bristol about it, so I do have some idea what I want to try. But it's mostly hardware and electronics engineering so I'm not too confident in it being a CS thesis so I've been trying to ask around for alternatives to be honest

That sounds so cool

yeah

I had 3 jobs in my first 2 years of my career

20:17

I love changing jobs

20:17

I get bored uglysmile

uglysmile

20:17

Very disloyal employee

lmao

but then they always ask why you arent in that job anymore

20:18

in the interviews

Chimera Shrimplain

I love changing jobs

My mom had 13 jobs in one year when she was younger

20:18

She held none of them at the same time.

im 100% glad I dropped full on programming as a carrer. I still do programming but only because I want to for automation and internal applications so Its very unmanaged programming

Omgggg

20:18

She’s so impressive

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My mom had 13 jobs in one year when she was younger

thats flat out impressive at that point

Thomas Sufferwell

im 100% glad I dropped full on programming as a carrer. I still do programming but only because I want to for automation and internal applications so Its very unmanaged programming

yea that seems like the way to do it

20:18

ive been programming basically 9am-6pm everyday for the last two weeks

20:18

kills the soul

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My mom had 13 jobs in one year when she was younger

thats more that a job a month

programming is so fun as a hobby, but as a career not so much

I like DevOps work tho it’s chill

Yeah, no idea how she did that

I think in theory programming may be higher paid, but since the company im at knew me from before I joined fulltime it doesnt really apply

V. Byrdson Dutycall

it wouldve been in darmstadt (not TU)

i know someone who did an internship there this year

god imagine having any chance of a highly paid career

HR

god imagine having any chance of a highly paid career

REAL

What do you do Jay

I guess I have an unpopular opinion that I love programming as a career!

i do art

Don't you do politics and econ

20:19

Or am I wrong

Fair

run for president

im just finishing up my undergrad and im probably looking at research/thinktank stuff after my masters IF i can get anything

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Don't you do politics and econ

politics and philosophy

I do prefer programming as a career because I don’t like programming

Thomas Sufferwell

run for president

Yeah, I was gonna say

Woah

20:20

Think tank

if im lucky ill get into the civil service

So it’s just a job

I've heard of those

Think tank is cool

Okay philosophy yeah.

Run for office

Thomas Sufferwell

run for president

unfortunately i am not 35 and also not american

Chimera Shrimplain

I do prefer programming as a career because I don’t like programming

yup I think this makes sense

We will vote

Dan S. Assigned

I guess I have an unpopular opinion that I love programming as a career!

yea i can definitely see how it can be a very fun and enjoyable career, if you find a company that is the right fit for you

I LOVE programming

20:20

So it was bad to do it as a job

Haha

20:20

Yea

i want to work in programming but its not my hobby at all

Chopper D. Drafted

yea i can definitely see how it can be a very fun and enjoyable career, if you find a company that is the right fit for you

Very true, I love my company

HR

politics and philosophy

Hell yeah

im just decent at it

I could not imagine sitting down to program in the evening after doing it all day

bruh il be doing programming in uni yall scaring me

uglysmile

1

I think making hobbies a career is hard

Cookie Dreadwaters

bruh il be doing programming in uni yall scaring me

Don’t be scared it’s great

V. Byrdson Dutycall

i do art

hey videogame art is uhhhh at least 1% better than most other art

Nah programming is fine

programming as work is bad

Cookie Dreadwaters

bruh il be doing programming in uni yall scaring me

I'm doing programming and I'm still in college we're on the same boat!

said almost nobody ever

at least for me

HR

hey videogame art is uhhhh at least 1% better than most other art

honestly true

I don’t mind it as a job

Chimera Shrimplain

I think making hobbies a career is hard

When I got the chance to get paid for programming I jumped at it and then it sucked out my soul for 3 years

So many programming haters!!!

20:21

Jk

V. Byrdson Dutycall

honestly true

salaried work is way better than commission based

Yea

im continuing on to animation so idk

yeah that too

Hobbies are best as hobbies

20:21

You can do what you wanna do w it

salaried programming would've been much better than comissioned programming

20:21

im sure of it

I do art commissions too mostly for dnd chars in servers I'm in

Thomas Sufferwell

When I got the chance to get paid for programming I jumped at it and then it sucked out my soul for 3 years

idk if ur referring to youtube but i think that was particularly bad imo

Yuki Begrudgington

programming as work is bad

i just cant imagine doing anything else for work

in general my skillset will just end up being a 3d artist which might be wanted?

comissioned programming sounds like a hellscape

Chopper D. Drafted

idk if ur referring to youtube but i think that was particularly bad imo

yes it was definitely particularly bad

You can try it out and see

The "small" amount I get paid is sometimes more than my full-time parents make each month

but it also really made me realize I didn't want to go for this for the rest of my life

That’s good tho

Because of the currency exchange

Lyle P. Overworked

I do art commissions too mostly for dnd chars in servers I'm in

If I ever start playing dnd can I commission you

see my dream career is like. thinking up the plots for triple A videogames

even if it was better

but game art only pays off if it gets somewhere and the industry is tough as shit

bc i have SO MANY good ones

Thomas Sufferwell

but it also really made me realize I didn't want to go for this for the rest of my life

yea fair

unfortunately this is not really a viable option

what kind of work do you do now then?

Game script writer or something right?

I need to get a freelance gig

tho i only have bad experiences with game art industry

Cookie Dreadwaters

i just cant imagine doing anything else for work

thats fair idk for me its just kind of forcing myself to do it comepared to wilingly working on my own projects

They get credited in credits

i dont wanna write the scripts

I’d like to pay my bills

i just wanna think up the vibes

Chopper D. Drafted

yea fair

I originally wanted to be a game dev anyway, and I also realized you can't do anything like what we did as a game dev in most places

my exam was an example of how it worked and my exam went fantastic imo

Because what we were doing is basically all aspects of a game

I never get event winner for my dnd story

And that's not happening in any real carreer

My dream career is probably retirement tbh.

hey ts you are somewhat of a game dev, with this bot

I worked hard

HR

i just wanna think up the vibes

That'd be the lead game designer then? I think? Sorry I'm not so helpful

I agree with turtle

Thomas Sufferwell

I originally wanted to be a game dev anyway, and I also realized you can't do anything like what we did as a game dev in most places

yea i think industry game dev is a lot closer to just a normal programming job in that you have limited freedom

Working is lame

Captain Drafted

hey ts you are somewhat of a game dev, with this bot

ah if only he could monatize it

Not working is better

I have yet to enter the work force, but these are the vibes I have

Lyle P. Overworked

That'd be the lead game designer then? I think? Sorry I'm not so helpful

probably but i think u need to know how technology works for that :(

anyone working on wwr can put game dev on their resume

ts you need to get ad revenue

Chopper D. Drafted

what kind of work do you do now then?

my title is sys admin, though I dont think this covers some things I do

I just work to pay the bills so I dont have to think about work after

give us a popup everytime we do an action

Chimera Shrimplain

I just work to pay the bills so I dont have to think about work after

What do you do?

Chopper D. Drafted

yea i think industry game dev is a lot closer to just a normal programming job in that you have limited freedom

Yeah in my experience, you’re usually working on silo’d small parts of the game

Software engineer

Chopper D. Drafted

yea i think industry game dev is a lot closer to just a normal programming job in that you have limited freedom

yeah so that was initially my "dream job" but then I realized I definitely didnt want it

Oh, okay.

More on the DevOps side so I put out fires

It’s not often you get to touch every part of a game

Thomas Sufferwell

my title is sys admin, though I dont think this covers some things I do

gotcha yea thats pretty cool

20:24

still technical but not coding generally

Working is so blah

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Oh, okay.

we are the only humanities students in the entire discord ecosystem

But someone gotta pay the bills

Am I a humanities student

I do some programming but not as a main thing

Chopper D. Drafted

yea i think industry game dev is a lot closer to just a normal programming job in that you have limited freedom

it is yea, speaking as someone whos worked in the game industry with pure game devs

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Am I a humanities student

i dont know

What do you study turtle

i know you hate maths so i assume so

Ecosystem sciences

fuck

20:25

okay title revoked

lmao

HR

we are the only humanities students in the entire discord ecosystem

Hello

I think that’s humanities ? No that’s science

HR

i know you hate maths so i assume so

I do hate maths and I'm taking a maths course this semester so

Emkay Forceme

Hello

HELLO pls join my union

Chimera Shrimplain

Working is so blah

Tomorrow I have to help my brother load up car batteries and sacks of copper so we can sell them to a junkshop 6 hours drive away and that's our whole revenue for the year

i just finished my last math course last semester

HR

HELLO pls join my union

Yes I will join your humanities union

I hate math courses, but I do not hate math (edited)

I wanted to do humanities, it sounded so interesting. But then I was like what job am I going to get with a history degree

Lyle P. Overworked

Tomorrow I have to help my brother load up car batteries and sacks of copper so we can sell them to a junkshop 6 hours drive away and that's our whole revenue for the year

Rough light! See when you say these things I will stop complaining

20:25

But tbf my name is shrimplain

i wanted to do game art but it required me to actually program so im gonna do animation instead

V. Byrdson Dutycall

it is yea, speaking as someone whos worked in the game industry with pure game devs

yeh when i get unlucky and am paired up with only good artists I have to do all the programming alone for my projects

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

I wanted to do humanities, it sounded so interesting. But then I was like what job am I going to get with a history degree

girl what job are u gonna get with a stem degree tbf

20:26

theres no jobs

Thomas Sufferwell

I hate math courses, but I do not hate math (edited)

yeahhss

Thomas Sufferwell

I hate math courses, but I do not hate math (edited)

i think ive been sufficiently tortured by math courses to not be able to appreciate or enjoy math for a long time

i love maths but i dont understand coding

I had one (1) good math course at TUM and it was actually genuinely good

which course

I would say it was the best course in fact

id be a great coder if i could be arsed to learn any

linear algebra, but it wasnt because of the topic

Chopper D. Drafted

i think ive been sufficiently tortured by math courses to not be able to appreciate or enjoy math for a long time

The one thing I hate most about game dev is graphics programming. Wayyyy too much math for me

it was just a genuinely good professor

Yuki Begrudgington

yeh when i get unlucky and am paired up with only good artists I have to do all the programming alone for my projects

wahahaha we usually have a good divide at my school bc game art and game dev are seperate courses

Noo I hate linear algebra

The only one I would say was genuinely great at teaching

I just don’t get it

He assumed we were all idiots and actually explained things so idiots would understand it

HR

theres no jobs

True, but something something the environment will die something something they may need people to do something about it at some point. Idk.

i like linear algebra

Which was valid, accurate and helpful

i think in uni i ended up liking math more than cs

Captain Drafted

i think in uni i ended up liking math more than cs

strange, considering the extendable rope physics incident

Chimera Shrimplain

Noo I hate linear algebra

The course wasnt good because of LA

V. Byrdson Dutycall

wahahaha we usually have a good divide at my school bc game art and game dev are seperate courses

ah yeh we have a game design course so we have a good mix

He's just the only guy I encountered in uni who was genuinely great at teaching

20:27

I absolutely hated every single other math course

Thomas Sufferwell

He assumed we were all idiots and actually explained things so idiots would understand it

My math professor just reads the script and then says "I assume you all know this" and moves on. When we do in fact not all know this. But oh well.

yeah THAT

20:27

I had that as well

20:27

and some not quite as bad ones

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My math professor just reads the script and then says "I assume you all know this" and moves on. When we do in fact not all know this. But oh well.

all of my programming profs

But the LA guy took questions and explained them in detail, and just explained things so we would get it (edited)

oh dont get me wrong, the math profs were all quite bad. one of them just made us watch a 12 year old youtube video for class and he only came to school for exam proctering

Thomas Sufferwell

But the LA guy took questions and explained them in detail, and just explained things so we would get it (edited)

That sounds really nice.

Our math subject is also bad in a different way I had to correct my professor that x^3 is not an even function Like the hell?

He didnt even have a proper script which is actually insane

20:29

Im not sure how he got through the materials since he also couldn't fully predict the pace with how long he spent on questions (edited)

when i was in engineering i fell asleep in the back of a math lecture and the lecturer pointed it out and I woke up to a whole lecture hall staring up at me

1

Then she spent 30 mins ranting at me how she graduated with a math degree and I'm just a student and I'm not smarter than her

Yuki Begrudgington

when i was in engineering i fell asleep in the back of a math lecture and the lecturer pointed it out and I woke up to a whole lecture hall staring up at me

Nightmare material

Yuki Begrudgington

when i was in engineering i fell asleep in the back of a math lecture and the lecturer pointed it out and I woke up to a whole lecture hall staring up at me

Assert dominance by going back to sleep

Dan S. Assigned

Nightmare material

I never went back

Dan S. Assigned

The one thing I hate most about game dev is graphics programming. Wayyyy too much math for me

yeah i know some people who love graphics programming and i just cant understand it.. seems like hell

Lmaoo

Lyle P. Overworked

Then she spent 30 mins ranting at me how she graduated with a math degree and I'm just a student and I'm not smarter than her

yeah this sounds like something that could happen with half of my math profs as well

By next week she transferred out (or maybe fired) and we got a subsitute teacher that became our actual teacher

Thomas Sufferwell

The only one I would say was genuinely great at teaching

thats great. ive had a few fantastic professors but none were in math unfortunately. in particular i hated linear algebra haha

I had a few more good ones, but the LA guy was best

20:31

But mostly they just clearly didnt want to have to bother with bachelor level lectures

LA as in linear algebra or los angeles

lin alg

Linear algebra

Thomas Sufferwell

But mostly they just clearly didnt want to have to bother with bachelor level lectures

yeah had a few of those as well

I took an online course for linear algebra when I was 8th grade and was so proud of it Because that was when we started learning normal algebra I THOUGHT THEY WERE THE SAME

im going to have to scroll all the way past the booster chaos to read back dead spec

Lyle P. Overworked

By next week she transferred out (or maybe fired) and we got a subsitute teacher that became our actual teacher

thats crazy

It's not a good school

I don't even know what linear algebra means

vectors are fun though

I will keep repeating this

No

lol my lectures were optional so i didnt really go to any

matrices are a bit complicated sometimes though

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

I don't even know what linear algebra means

Vectors, matrices, and nightmares

My lectures are optional too but I know for a fact that if I don't go I'm not studying on my own, so I force myself to go

Instead of competitions or researches the school holds like, freaking beauty pageants as if to distract us from the fact our tuition was not being put to good use

Ew, I just did that last month.

matricies were the easy part for me

i always went, even when i was the only one there

HR

lol my lectures were optional so i didnt really go to any

everything was optional for me so I stopped going to anything at some point

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My lectures are optional too but I know for a fact that if I don't go I'm not studying on my own, so I force myself to go

most of our teaching/studying is done via tutorials and weekly essays so i was mostly fine

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

I don't even know what linear algebra means

honestly i dont know either (after having taken the course) (edited)

the only thing you have to attend at TUM is the exam at the end of the year

Chopper D. Drafted

honestly i dont know either (after having taken the course) (edited)

Lol

honestly i love math but hate physics

you can even skip midterms if they exist and still get the best grade with the endterm

we dont have midterms OR endterms

We just have a practical once a week that is mandatory that is actually so useless

identifying Latin names of plants with a book for three hours but at least it's more entertaining than math

HR

we dont have midterms OR endterms

yeah if you have weekly things that are graded that works

Thomas Sufferwell

you can even skip midterms if they exist and still get the best grade with the endterm

my school is like the opposite. courses typically have like 2-3 midterms and then the final. sometimes you can skip the final as long as you do well on all the midterms

at TUM any graded homework or graded midterms only apply a point bonus to the result of the endterm

20:35

and then the exams are very hard

i had exams at the end of my first year which i had to pass to stay on my course - people who did really well on them (like me) got money too and i had/am actively having exams on the work i did in my second+third years at the end of my third year, which are the only ones which count towards my degree

but the bonus applies if you pass the final exam

so my entire degree rests on 8 3-hour exams

Then they have the Jacobian and determinant when I get to masters and it’s just silly at that point

Thomas Sufferwell

yeah if you have weekly things that are graded that works

nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god for ChatGPT

HR

so my entire degree rests on 8 3-hour exams

Wow? If I had that, I feel like I'd just slack off. Idk.

Chimera Shrimplain

Then they have the Jacobian and determinant when I get to masters and it’s just silly at that point

Ooooh you have masters?

well i had to hand in work every week

HR

nope!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ah okay

so that kept me a bit on task

Lyle P. Overworked

Ooooh you have masters?

I’m in it yes next year I’ll be done!

I did my homework for my first 3 semesters but then I had lost all interest and stopped doing anything besides endterms

20:37

usually i watched the first lecture and realized it was gonna be a waste of time

in my second and third trimesters of my second year i think i handed in about 20% of my work

20:37

and somehow nothing came of it

20:38

and before anyone asks: no i do not go to a shitty uni

i mean at uni I think it mostly doesnt matter

i actually go to what some people have called "quite a good" uni

i did end up doing most of the homework just way past the deadlines

Thomas Sufferwell

i mean at uni I think it mostly doesnt matter

yea

and never handed it in

HR

i actually go to what some people have called "quite a good" uni

Give us the name-drop so we can all gasp in unison

they dont really care how you learn the material in the end (edited)

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Give us the name-drop so we can all gasp in unison

ethan basically already doxxed me that one time

20:39

but no

20:39

i shall maintain my air of mystery

i know what it is but like yea

Pls, you told me when you got accepted?

keep being mysterious

HR

ethan basically already doxxed me that one time

lmao

Uni names, are they really that important

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Pls, you told me when you got accepted?

i think everyone ive known for more than a couple years knows

Okay, well be your mysterious self, I support it.

LMAO

Here in the philippines the gold standard for university is University of the Philippines but even that's not in the top 100 uni internationally

tum is supposed to be "good" as well, but at least on bachelor level it is not good

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Okay, well be your mysterious self, I support it.

i also tried to convince you to apply lol

I remember, and then I saw the fees for foreign students

LMAO

Apparently TUM is ranked 28th in the world WOW

My uni is the second most expensive in Germany, but it's still relatively ok-priced.

Lyle P. Overworked

Apparently TUM is ranked 28th in the world WOW

apparently mine is 850-900

Lyle P. Overworked

Apparently TUM is ranked 28th in the world WOW

wow rookie numbers /j

Lyle P. Overworked

Apparently TUM is ranked 28th in the world WOW

I would imagine it gets good at the higher levels

HR

wow rookie numbers /j

PLS

2nd game in a row where i didnt get to show off my platinum death message

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

My uni is the second most expensive in Germany, but it's still relatively ok-priced.

they want money?

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

PLS

sorry i cant resist im just such a bitch about everything

Captain Drafted

2nd game in a row where i didnt get to show off my platinum death message

just too good for it

I paid like <100€ per semester

UP is ranked 336th best for comparison

they dont call me pretentious for nothing

Thomas Sufferwell

they want money?

Like fees yeah

yeah i dont think university ranking applies that much to bachelor degrees imo

Thomas Sufferwell

I paid like <100€ per semester

god

Thomas Sufferwell

I paid like <100€ per semester

ok mine's definitely a multiple of that.

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

ok mine's definitely a multiple of that.

think about how i feel....

also that money was exclusively for public transport and food

20:43

the uni doesnt even get any of that

i have to pay 1500 per semester

I bet uoft ranks high

My uni is top 150.

What that’s so cheap

Yuki Begrudgington

i have to pay 1500 per semester

£3k per trimester

oh lord

Chimera Shrimplain

I bet uoft ranks high

yeah its in the teens iirc

I think I had to pay 10k per semester

not tuition costs

if I had to pay more than what I paid I would've dropped out lmao

HR

think about how i feel....

Crazy.

Ok I missed a lot cuz I was applying to an amazing race org in discord lmao

10k a year maybe

Rip the potential xp

Yea 10k a year but I got a full scholarship for the last two years

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Rip the potential xp

there is still a lot of boosts

Thomas Sufferwell

also that money was exclusively for public transport and food

Yeah, but the D-Ticket prices keep increasing smh smh! And the Studentenwerk keeps wanting more money for food. Apparently they needed 5 million euros to change their name and that's why they jacked up prices.

I paid off my student loans recently then again I didn’t have too much compared to other American students cuz had a lot of financial aid help NOT BECAUSE IM RICH

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Yeah, but the D-Ticket prices keep increasing smh smh! And the Studentenwerk keeps wanting more money for food. Apparently they needed 5 million euros to change their name and that's why they jacked up prices.

what

Us is another level

ah my uni days where with the old student tickets not whatever they have now

Chimera Shrimplain

Us is another level

oh my god

20:45

out of state tuition

20:45

please

20:45

its like they dont want us to go to school

20:45

and be educated

They do Deutschlandticket now which alone is 30 Euros/month I think.

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I paid off my student loans recently then again I didn’t have too much compared to other American students cuz had a lot of financial aid help NOT BECAUSE IM RICH

Ok Scrooge mcduck

Charlotte C. Burntout

out of state tuition

Out of state private is insane

Charlotte C. Burntout

its like they dont want us to go to school

Bingo

the old studentticket was solid

20:45

I think

im talking like even out of state public is ass now

Sigh

HR

£3k per trimester

Yeah, still better than the 20k/trimester I think it would've cost for me. But yeah, definitely a bunch.

Vienna is 75/semester

Emkay Forceme

Ok Scrooge mcduck

sob

This is so rough

aaaaaaaaaaaa

For whole city

Thomas Sufferwell

the old studentticket was solid

I wouldn't know

75?

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Yeah, still better than the 20k/trimester I think it would've cost for me. But yeah, definitely a bunch.

jeez

put the fries in the bags moment

Austria-wide is expensive

dropping out of school

Jeez

btw ts, is the cleric bless feedback not automated

Chimera Shrimplain

75?

Euros

That’s so cheap

To be fair the Deutschlandticket does give me access to nation-wide transit for free.

How is this real

Yeah Vienna is pretty great for students

pensivegayblob

maybe its time to move to europe

20:46

screw the us

Pensive gay blob

Captain Drafted

btw ts, is the cleric bless feedback not automated

it is but it gave the clerics name

20:46

so I deleted it and corrected it

20:47

wait no

someone have an open room pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

it gave the targets name

Charlotte C. Burntout

maybe its time to move to europe

Brb closing the borders

NOOOO

but should've given clerics name

LET ME INNNNN

to be fair, kills cant be redirected

Europe is being gate-kept, sorry.

Make Canada eu

grrrrr

So I can move to Europe

ong

20:47

me and you chimi

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

To be fair the Deutschlandticket does give me access to nation-wide transit for free.

yeah just a bit of a gamble if you will arrive

Let’s go

I wish I can just ride a boat like you guys to go to the next country

Chimera Shrimplain

Make Canada eu

First step Canada in Eurovision

Thomas Sufferwell

yeah just a bit of a gamble if you will arrive

Yes... sadly yes

Let’s go mkay

Instead i'm stuck in a floating landfill

Emkay Forceme

First step Canada in Eurovision

Lmao real

Mark carney needs to make Canada EU

Emkay Forceme

First step Canada in Eurovision

Uh Australia is in Eurovision so does that mean they’re eu lmao

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Uh Australia is in Eurovision so does that mean they’re eu lmao

No but if they can join it so can we thight

thight

Image attachment

20:48

its over

20:49

its so over

Obligatory eu =/= europe (edited)

dropping out of school brb

Charlotte C. Burntout

oh noo

oh right coals not in uni rn

Charlotte C. Burntout

dropping out of school brb

Where are you going to work then

i forgot

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Where are you going to work then

mcdonalds

would you like fries with that?

Put the fries in the bag

ijerojgiorjoire

20:50

ONG

20:50

ill become like a mcdonalds owner

20:50

trust

20:50

ill be making so much bank

You should go for the mascot

20:50

id fit

20:50

i have the resume for it

They kinda got rid of Ronald, no?

20:51

Replaced him with a box

i mean

20:51

id fit that too

working at mcdonalds seems kinda fun ngl

customer service is j

I believe in you

not fun

tum is only like 2k€ for international students I think per semesters

20:53

I can totally recommend it

Lol.

thats really cheap

is it trimester

20:53

o

20:53

r

Charlotte C. Burntout

mcdonalds

ill order unsalted fries 5 minutes before it closes

I think we have the same price for international students as for non-internationals. At least in my course.

Aleeeeeeeeex

ill order unsalted fries 5 minutes before it closes

i will explode

20:54

and then get you your fries

tum is free for locals and 2-3k per semester for foreigners

20:54

but it was free for foreigenrs as well

20:54

until like a year ago

Which is 400 Euros in fees

and by free I mean the <100€ fee for food and transport

in uoft its $6100 a year, but for internationals its $61720

Wow.

20:55

10x price increase is steep.

Captain Drafted

in uoft its $6100 a year, but for internationals its $61720

aaaaaaa

no wonder we had way too many students tbh

not fairrrr

but for computer science spefically, its even more

local uni our instate is still like 11k-12k

TUW is ~25 euros / semester for EU/EEA

20:56

within a time frame

20:56

then its 363

20:56

and for international students its 726

how is it under a thousand

Aleeeeeeeeex

TUW is ~25 euros / semester for EU/EEA

Wth

Why are unis so expensive elsewhere is the real question

20:58

Our prices make sense

Captain Drafted

but for computer science spefically, its even more

Yet your going back to school for education

True.

Thomas Sufferwell

Why are unis so expensive elsewhere is the real question

MERICA CAPITALISM

unis in the netherlands are up to 3k per year

I guess we have government subsidation.

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Wth

i think for my first semester i paid 19 (edited)

thats why im going to belgium

and its been going up by like 1 euro per semester

Mine's going up more than 1 euro per semester, that much is sure

So just to be clear

21:02

College isn't $500 per year?

Syntax error. Unknown command 250!

.$250 per semester

Lmao

Because that's what I pay

21:03

I actually had a scholarship but my school is so bad it isnt even accredited so it doesnt apply it

Philippines prices are cheap

I get what I pay for I guess

Lyle P. Overworked

I actually had a scholarship but my school is so bad it isnt even accredited so it doesnt apply it

Wait why are you going to a non accredited uni?

It's the closest

21:04

The closest accredited uni here is like 4 island hops away

21:04

At least this one can be travelled by commute

Oh I see

Like I said I'm stuck in a floating landfill pretending to be a country

21:05

I spawned in a bad location

Spawned in the island biome.

For reference, we just finished 2nd year. Five of my classmates need to take a special skills test because they failed programming 3. The task? Write a program that creates an array and searches it to see if a person's name is on it. 4 of them failed and are going to repeat the class next semester

Wait what

THIS is the standard I'm working with

That's like 10th grade level at best

I'm not even kidding. I heard it straight from one of the failers just two days ago.

Thomas Sufferwell

That's like 10th grade level at best

During covid the government had a dumb rule, "nobody left behind", so there are no failed students and everyone who attends online class automatically gets a pass

Lyle P. Overworked

THIS is the standard I'm working with

Huh

Light be like

Which is why WWR is such a breath of fresh air because here literally everyone else is smarter than me

21:09

And I learn a lot of soft skills here

Lyle P. Overworked

Which is why WWR is such a breath of fresh air because here literally everyone else is smarter than me

Almost everyone :D

Lyle P. Overworked

During covid the government had a dumb rule, "nobody left behind", so there are no failed students and everyone who attends online class automatically gets a pass

I mean for online classes cuz of Covid there was a more lax grading curve but passing everyone is crazy

Nope! Literally everyone

21:10

I'm frequently pointed out to have bad reading comprehension

Lyle P. Overworked

For reference, we just finished 2nd year. Five of my classmates need to take a special skills test because they failed programming 3. The task? Write a program that creates an array and searches it to see if a person's name is on it. 4 of them failed and are going to repeat the class next semester

arrays were programming 1 in uni

Too quick to make assumptions

and also 10th grade in highschool

Yeah about that

21:11

In my age group 10th grade to 12th grade was covid

21:11

Not everyone of us even had online devices

21:11

The government had to give out like cheap tablets so that 5 families can share one

wow are we still talking about uni

Did I say 5 family members? No, I said 5 families per one tablet.

21:12

I'm one of the richer ones in our neighborhood because I have a phone and a laptop

Lyle P. Overworked

Which is why WWR is such a breath of fresh air because here literally everyone else is smarter than me

hey not everyone! naming no names

HR

wow are we still talking about uni

i mean its a good topic everyone wants to talk about all the things that happened over the year

trueee

Yuki Begrudgington

i mean its a good topic everyone wants to talk about all the things that happened over the year

Perfect too considering this is the season end game

i love talking about uni

So it makes sense there's some sort of epilogue

yep

i have my last two final exams this week

Lyle P. Overworked

I'm frequently pointed out to have bad reading comprehension

high five we twinning

HR

i have my last two final exams this week

glhf

im getting my results next week

ooo fun

woweeee

21:14

i dont get mine til july

which im gonna fail like half my modules

im pretty sure I'm on course for a 2.1

ive got like 4 exams ahead this month

I was sick for like half the year on repeat

21:15

and missed a lot

ouch

I’m stressed about this topic because I have a bunch of payments I need to make + I don’t know how to pick courses (edited)

it should be fine to repeat over the summer

I’m glad I’m not in uni anymore

wait yuki which uni do u go to is it one of the Belfast ones

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noo TUD

Congrats bestie

i will be glad not to be in uni anymore for like 2 months after my thesis

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i already started masters courses

21:16

so its back to back

the same one as tank

oh man now that the game is over I really need to get started on gamelog

Yuki Begrudgington

noo TUD

oooooh

Speaking of exams let me tell you how bad it is Our finals is a 30 items multiple choice. The exam is worth

50%

of our grades. So making just 3 mistakes brings you down to 89% grade already And the exams are so easy, I regularly finish them in 5 minutes The most time consuming part is shading the answers This is supposed to be 2 hour long exams A multiple choice I mean come on

archiving is a thankless job

i know someone at trinity college dublin iirc

Lyle P. Overworked

Speaking of exams let me tell you how bad it is Our finals is a 30 items multiple choice. The exam is worth

50%

of our grades. So making just 3 mistakes brings you down to 89% grade already And the exams are so easy, I regularly finish them in 5 minutes The most time consuming part is shading the answers This is supposed to be 2 hour long exams A multiple choice I mean come on

HR

i know someone at trinity college dublin iirc

i hate trinity students

LMAO

Lyle P. Overworked

Speaking of exams let me tell you how bad it is Our finals is a 30 items multiple choice. The exam is worth

50%

of our grades. So making just 3 mistakes brings you down to 89% grade already And the exams are so easy, I regularly finish them in 5 minutes The most time consuming part is shading the answers This is supposed to be 2 hour long exams A multiple choice I mean come on

that indeed sounds awful

HR

LMAO

well its because i work in a coffee shop right outside

HR

i have my last two final exams this week

Mine are first in July

I guess the one thing I can't complain about is exams

21:17

They were hard, but fair and well made and reasonably graded

Yuki Begrudgington

well its because i work in a coffee shop right outside

is this how you Maybe Might Have met ghost

HR

is this how you Maybe Might Have met ghost

idk

Lyle P. Overworked

Speaking of exams let me tell you how bad it is Our finals is a 30 items multiple choice. The exam is worth

50%

of our grades. So making just 3 mistakes brings you down to 89% grade already And the exams are so easy, I regularly finish them in 5 minutes The most time consuming part is shading the answers This is supposed to be 2 hour long exams A multiple choice I mean come on

Although I don’t mind all multiple choice test tbh

I had so much easy time doing the exams I doodle on them and still finish first in my course

if anything i think id likely have met ghost before i started working there

the only multiple choice part of my exams is getting to choose which essay questions to do

but like no idea

im going to come to your coffee shop

HR

im going to come to your coffee shop

good luck there are a lot around

You going to visit ghost and Invinci too bestie

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i had only very few essay exams but they're always the easiest because its so far from what informatics is supposed to be they cant make them hard

im actually thinking of doing my masters thesis on NI/the belfast talks so maybe ill make it down to dublin who knows

multiple choice exams can be very hard as well

I haven't had essay exams, which I'm totally ok with

21:20

Multiple choice exam carried me through chem and physics

HR

im actually thinking of doing my masters thesis on NI/the belfast talks so maybe ill make it down to dublin who knows

time it for when ethan is also over

of the 24 questions which make up my 8 final exams, 22 will have been longform essays

i still somehow have not seen ethan irl

They make the questions for multiple choice so evil and have no consistenty in grading, answer count and correct answer count that it makes them harder then normal text answers

1 was a maths question and 1 was a commentaries question, so four short essays

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Multiple choice exam carried me through chem and physics

I wish my chem and physics exams were just that there’s a reason why i switched to environmental science

Well, it was chem and physics in environmental science, so it was already very easy. But I needed it to be easy.

usually I found the exams further away from the core thing you're learning to be much easier

Thomas Sufferwell

They make the questions for multiple choice so evil and have no consistenty in grading, answer count and correct answer count that it makes them harder then normal text answers

Oh, mine was like on a computer and the questions were pretty simple on purpose because they needed like 300 people to pass. Or, well at least most of them.

since they don't expect years of base knowledge

I hate exams because im good at finding answers but not remembering them

i had one informatics exam which was half or so multiple choice and it ridiculous. Each question has a different amount of answers and a different amount of correct answers and they make them extremly hard questions

Yuki Begrudgington

I hate exams because im good at finding answers but not remembering them

*finding by looking them up and reserch

The text parts are much easier

21:23

if you're 90% right on the text part you're still getting points

Yuki Begrudgington

I hate exams because im good at finding answers but not remembering them

Sometimes for exams cuz I hate studying I would cram the night or morning before so the info is fresh and just hope retain what I just looked over briefly lmao

multiple choices can just really fuck you over

Thomas Sufferwell

since they don't expect years of base knowledge

Makes sense.

I also had econ multiple choices which was free

21:24

but then once again thats not what I was studying so ofc it was an easy exam

21:24

that one was a classic 4 answers, 1 is right type exam

Also online multiple choice tests with no lockdown browser plus camera was also free lmao

Yeah, those are the best.

Also I had a few take home exams which those were mostly easy lmao

I had one multiple choice exam in marketing or so

21:25

But I had signedup to the wrong exam

21:25

For a different subject

21:25

It was during lockdown

21:25

I only realized it was the wrong exam like an hour before

21:25

I passed

21:25

I wonder why

21:25

Im suure it wouldve been the same for a in person exam

Did you get the credits for it

yea

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Sometimes for exams cuz I hate studying I would cram the night or morning before so the info is fresh and just hope retain what I just looked over briefly lmao

ive done that many a time

it had double the credits of the one I meant to sign up for

like start studying at 2am, sleep at 7, wake up at 10

1

21:26

multiple choices are as hard as the professor wants them to be

I would not have passed that exam if it was in person or with camera I would imagine

our law exam was full multiple choice

21:26

but

21:26

each question had 4 possible answers

21:27

if you got a single one wrong you got nothing for the question

21:27

passing rate for first attempt was about 7%

That's

myself not included obviously

A unique system

then 2nd attempt they made it a bit easier

How many choices per question then?

a lot of classes also have "Global minus points"

21:27

usually when its open ended questions mixed with multiple choice

21:28

so you dont just guess on the multiple choice

21:28

if you get them wrong you lose points

Aleeeeeeeeex

passing rate for first attempt was about 7%

sounds reasonable

instead of just not getting any

global minus points sounds horrible

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Also online multiple choice tests with no lockdown browser plus camera was also free lmao

i love how this is the second time you've admitted to cheating at uni

we only ever had question wide ones

Lyle P. Overworked

How many choices per question then?

each question had 4 choices and you had to have everything correctly circled/ lack thereof

HR

i love how this is the second time you've admitted to cheating at uni

Nono, look its not cheating

HR

i love how this is the second time you've admitted to cheating at uni

It’s not cheating if you don’t get caught

The lack of camera just decreases the stress (edited)

HR

i love how this is the second time you've admitted to cheating at uni

Someone should revoke her degree for real.

So you do better

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

It’s not cheating if you don’t get caught

Impeccable logic.

Thomas Sufferwell

we only ever had question wide ones

for fully mc tests its usually per question so you cant guess parts of it

Like I just feel more nervous with camera mhm

pass rates for our exams are extremely high (99%) but it's less about passing and more about which degree classification you get because a pass, third, and to some extent a 2.2 are not seen as good results

ive cheated in uni (last month) but in my defense it wa the kind of exam where you needed to learn what error message R gives you when you write a specific wrong line of ode

21:30

cool thing

21:30

it was online

(last month)

wahoooo R

and you didnt need to be on zoom

21:30

just me and the exam

I... have never cheated...

I've never had an online exam, I'm jealous.

doing corona a bunch of exams just went for "we literally do not care what you do we just made the exam hard enough that google doesnt work"

HR

pass rates for our exams are extremely high (99%) but it's less about passing and more about which degree classification you get because a pass, third, and to some extent a 2.2 are not seen as good results

tbf it also speaks to the quality of students at my uni

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

Someone should revoke her degree for real.

I used chat gpt to tell me write the intro portion of my senior thesis research paper aka help me explain concepts I didn’t actually know how to explain from reading the research papers about them which how I didn’t get caught I made sure to add citations and put the chat gpt text in another paraphrase ai to make it not ai detectable lmao (edited)

We don't get online exams during covid they just gave out long worksheets that act as exams

Thomas Sufferwell

doing corona a bunch of exams just went for "we literally do not care what you do we just made the exam hard enough that google doesnt work"

but I guess with generative ai this approach doesnt work anymore

like an average person from another uni might not pass my course

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

I used chat gpt to tell me write the intro portion of my senior thesis research paper aka help me explain concepts I didn’t actually know how to explain from reading the research papers about them which how I didn’t get caught I made sure to add citations and put the chat gpt text in another paraphrase ai to make it not ai detectable lmao (edited)

pls.

one thing they started doing here is make the question really long

21:31

and have it be a screenshot

21:31

so you cant copy paste it

HR

like an average person from another uni might not pass my course

hepi

Aleeeeeeeeex

so you cant copy paste it

uhm

oh yeah they fucking encrypted the law course pdf

i mean for our exams we literally don't have internet access on the laptops we use

Thomas Sufferwell

uhm

(i know)

Thomas Sufferwell

hepi

what does this mean

What?

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

pls.

It’s called working smarter not harder

HR

like an average person from another uni might not pass my course

Average person is kinda crazy ngl.

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

It’s called working smarter not harder

it's called not working

HR

what does this mean

Just a kinda crazy thing to say

was i being pretentious.... im sorry :(

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

It’s called working smarter not harder

I think working harder might be beneficial to you. You should try it.

nah someone so good at WWR is right to call others peasants

u see im simply on another level /j so it's hard for me to interact with normies /j

Lol

I would imagine unis with a higher barrier of entry will have higher pass rates

HR

was i being pretentious.... im sorry :(

It's okay, you have the right to be pretentious.

Thomas Sufferwell

I would imagine unis with a higher barrier of entry will have higher pass rates

yea

Mr. Time-to-clock-out

It's okay, you have the right to be pretentious.

Meanwhile I know I'm bottom of the barrel so I just accept my place submissively

most people who signed up in my year made it in but the pass rate is quite low for informatics

21:33

also

21:34

a lot of people take like

21:34

7 years to finish

When I graduate I'm probably going to still be working at the farm anyway

my teammates for SEPM were like

o yea the acceptance rate for my course admissions is obviously quite low

tum was forced by government to take everyone so they want to have as many people as possible fail and drop out

sem 14 + full time job for 5 years

21:34

they took one course per semester

21:34

wild

That is pretty wild.

i think it was 10% in my year?

nobody seems to be in a hurry here

21:34

its quite common for people to take years to finish their first degree

Acceptance rate to my course was 100%, I believe.

tum is legally required to accept 100% of applicants

in romania the norm is speedrunning every step of education

21:35

then work full time and never look back\

they tried a process where they make you come to an interview if you fail the grade qualification but even if you fail the interview you're still accepted

21:35

its hilarious

Aleeeeeeeeex

nobody seems to be in a hurry here

Everyone I know is doing gap years and stuff like that, people really take everything very slow.

HR

it's called not working

I was trying to understand the scientific research paper they’re annoying to fucking understand cuz they don’t really explain shit the best

failed the grade requirement AND failed the interview? still accepted (edited)

Lyle P. Overworked

Which is why WWR is such a breath of fresh air because here literally everyone else is smarter than me

That's not true you're very smart

So it's mostly a threatening tactic?

having to work with someone else's research papers is a nightmare

21:36

and don't get me started on someone else's code (who's not a programmer)

Lyle P. Overworked

Which is why WWR is such a breath of fresh air because here literally everyone else is smarter than me

Your smart we all have our areas of expertise

Captain Drafted

That's not true you're very smart

Just a normal sized fish in a small pond of small fish (edited)

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when i first pulled the githubs for whatever im working with now

FINALLY

i spent a full week writing my own comments

MY XP

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they name stuff different in code compared to the paper

21:37

nothing's commentated

Lmao

not even the model structures match

21:37

its pandemonium

21:37

and they're not oop programmers so im looking at these massive ass functions that are nothing but math

Everyone knows the documentation lags behind the actual development

yeah in my case its not development

21:38

they wrote the models once 5 years ago for their own papers

21:38

AND EVERY DEPENDENCY IS OUTDATED

21:38

EVERY DAMN TIME (edited)

Alex do you think you'll get a chance to play in season 14

depends when it starts

Presumably the next game

i should be fine in july

21:39

no like

21:39

calendar wise

21:39

id like to play in all of it

21:39

but im gonna host some osu staff starting august

21:39

on top of trying to get somewhere in life

I forgot how fun being town lead is

21:40

Been a while

holy shit for my thesis I also had to go through uncommented code and they also really like their one and two letter variables

21:40

im glad its not a unique experience

July during the evenings I might be busy with a tar org I applied to with one of my discord friends who doesn’t mind doing one with me idk if we’ll get accepted

Tar?

21:41

Oh

21:41

Race

Yes that

July I'm unemployed but summer is ripe for art commissions of chars in swimsuits and beach episodes so I imagine I'll be busy but not enough to be unable to play

Thomas Sufferwell

holy shit for my thesis I also had to go through uncommented code and they also really like their one and two letter variables

oh yeah they had one python script, with 3 closely related methods in it 1 method took hyperparameters from hyperparameters.py 1 method took parameters from 4 different .yaml files 1 method took parameters as arguments

21:42

they're all preset hyperparameters

21:42

why the fuck are they so spread out

21:42

need a damn detective pinboard to track where i need to make changes

soooo reletable

they shouldnt have stopped there

and ofc it was ocaml which I had never used before exam for one exam

should have added some through annotations too

21:43

and maybe some as private constants (edited)

Maybe interface too

Do you think it was a good decision to elect swurtle, or no

No

yes

Captain Drafted

Do you think it was a good decision to elect swurtle, or no

it shouldn't have been

has swurtle ever lied without her teammates telling her to do so

but it was (edited)

It only worked because swurtle was swurtle but a different psychopath would have messed town up

I didn't elect her because she was psychopath, it was because she was psychopath and swurtle at the same time

Lmao thanks Luffy

The only value of reporter is the information. As long as it's truthful info, it does not matter who has the role

Aleeeeeeeeex

has swurtle ever lied without her teammates telling her to do so

If I’m being accused of being scum when I’m scum i obviously defend myself

Captain Drafted

I didn't elect her because she was psychopath, it was because she was psychopath and swurtle at the same time

and swurtle is less likely to die

21:48

since shes known psychopath

Exactly

yeah so it was a good decision but it really should've been a bad one

Remember when we elected ocean as reporter

21:49

In the roaring wolf game

21:49

It was manually run so she didn't remember she could resign

Also resigned as elected had been a new meta

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Well she was roaring wolf

21:50

There was no meta for that

21:50

The resign thing is a new cleric meta though (edited)

what

21:54

roaring wolf as reporter?

21:54

isnt that just removing reporter to ensure guardian?

Yea

okay

21:54

I guess?

We didn't need reporter that game

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Nice

Thanks Luffy

sometimes town is so strong that it doesn't need reporter right?

It was because there was 0 margin of error

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To see this card is a message you must seek it yourself, only you can bring forth all that you need.

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1379395421339652155/1379578873196445706 LMAO

So reporter would only matter after we lost

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Swurtle

21:57

How are you

Snivy we lost

21:57

sob

Ikkkkk

You were wrong about fish and sunny

It’s so sad because without you town wouldn’t have found a lot of wolves

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

You were wrong about fish and sunny

I wassss

21:58

At the end of the day swurtle

21:58

Take this as an opportunity to learn

21:58

I think I told you near the start

21:59

That when ur unaligned nobody is your friend and you shouldn’t beg for their help they should be begging for your help

No you definitely need to ask for help otherwise you just hope to get lucky

Lmao who should I listen to

Theres a balance

22:00

Help but don't help too much

have them help you first to help them

22:05

town really wants the investigation

22:05

so in your situation there could've been opportunity to hide info unless somebody from your list is killed

I see

And don't out wolves

22:06

Use them to do your killings for you

22:06

Because in a situation like fish a town wouldn't want to kill a known town

She did what she could with the cursed cit fish claim

22:07

I saw in wolfpack that did make you waver somewhat (edited)

22:08

Not enough though

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Just 6k...

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After all that typing

thats still a lot

Idk how much I ended gaining during that time

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Syntax error. Invalid subcommand leaderboard!

22:26

XP Leaderboard

@Aleeeeeeeeex has 40613 XP and is on Level 26.

22:26

(edited)

XP Leaderboard

#1: @Thomas Sufferwell - 118665 [44] #2: @Chimera Shrimplain - 106221 [40] #3: @V. Byrdson Dutycall - 105404 [41] #4: @Kali M. Hostalysis - 102065 [38] #5: @Yuki Begrudgington - 90610 [34] #6: @HR - 88760 [39] #7: @Captain Drafted - 85524 [38] #8: @Lyle P. Overworked - 81540 [37] #9: @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish - 81035 [37] #10: @Cookie Dreadwaters - 73335 [35] #11: @T. I. Mennow - 64925 [11] #12: @Charlotte C. Burntout - 64858 [33] #13: @Steinator - 60864 [32] #14: @Jean D. Unwilling - 51860 [30] #15: @Aleeeeeeeeex - 40613 [26] #16: @Mr. Time-to-clock-out - 30724 [17] #17: @Basil 'Why Me' C. - 30227 [22] #18: @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 28132 [20] #19: @the kremblin - 27538 [22] #20: @Parker Reluctance - 26151 [19]

#21: @Escaped Thankfully - 24061 [20] #22: @👁 - 23166 [20] #23: @Dan S. Assigned - 22742 [19] #24: @gh0st - 20108 [17] #25: @Mia - 19869 [5] #26: @Aliii🎀 - 17635 [17] #27: @Emkay Forceme - 16620 [12] #28: @Hexakaty - 14137 [15] #29: @invincitank - 11965 [14] #30: @Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire - 11254 [12] #31: @Matstress - 10157 [12] #32: @aerosol - 9196 [12] #33: @ddd8000 - 6550 [11] #34: @Chopper D. Drafted - 4608 [2] #35: @Jordan - 3851 [4] #36: @Sarvak - 2579 [4] #37: @Jordan - 2090 [4] #38: @Sky Quiet - 1152 [0] #39: @Marten - 1003 [4] #40: @ikuya - 550 [2]

#41: @Amethyst - 367 [0] #42: @Unknown - 291 [1] #43: @derpsnorlax - 233 [0] #44: @BirdyEnforcement🦜 - 17 [0] #45: @ŽŽ - 15 [0] #46: @Unknown - 15 [0] #47: @hexakon - 12 [0]

that was a good boost

Ok when will my next two level ups actually happen

22:30

I guess I keep yapping until it happens

wow mia is super underlevelled

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22:36

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and time as well

22:36

wild

Swur 'Not Again' Tel

Lmao who should I listen to

As psychopath you need to work both sides

I tried but wolves were too pissed to work with me

Yea I’d say that’s expected

@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish I’m sorry I didn’t get wolves to kill tou

I’m sorry I wasn’t there for you enough swurtle

It’s ok i understand you were busy

I’m sorry :(

22:57

After Tuesday my hardest exam is over

Yippee

22:59

Almost done with exams

I’ve got two more weeks

23:00

And then it’s prom the day after my last exam what amazing timing

Ooo almost done

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B

Syntax error. Unknown command active!

Is it still on

23:27

Pls

23:27

I need boosters

Syntax error. Unknown command boosts!

Ahhhh

23:27

Whats the command

23:27

SOAB

23:27

Cmonnn

Swurtle's is on for another while or so.

bst use bst:gl31

23:28

or whatever

Boosters

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swurtle's still has 2 hours left

Well

23:28

I have boosters should i add it in

Boosters

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Hueheueh

you probably should only add 1

23:29

since otherwise we go way above the max of x50 again

Lmao

7x4 would be a x28 booster already

Whats the command again

adding the x3 as well gets to the max of 50

Thomas Sufferwell

bst use bst:gl31

this

Boosters

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Aaaaaa

23:30

Aaaaa

23:30

Lets go gamers

23:30

Also

23:30

Congrats town

23:30

I couldnt play bc religious celebration sadly

23:31

Can we ping everyone so i have ppl to talk to

23:31

?

23:31

Damn where is everyone

23:31

whhhaaaa

23:31

sorry

WE HAVE BOOSTERS

23:31

Get talkinggg

are we back again

i cant be on now for much

x21 I guess

Damn

23:31

Yea

23:31

I was asleep

23:31

Now im awake

im actually supposed to be working on season wrap up though

Are we gonna get new roles and stuff

23:32

Yk

23:32

Oh will my raccoon role debut

23:32

Finally

23:32

uglysmile

23:32

It was championed but never saw play

Im trying to see if using AI actually improves my ability to code

Actually im so happy swurtle loses lol

Jean D. Unwilling

Oh will my raccoon role debut

its unfinished

Damn

but yeah v20 of the rule book is supposed to be finished now (edited)

Thomas Sufferwell

its unfinished

Ahh

23:34

Im only against generative AI cuz im an artist

Oh i wanted to fix a typo I noticed the other day ill do that rn

we need to working on finishing prs and issues in the next few days

Jean D. Unwilling

Im only against generative AI cuz im an artist

oh ye ill never use to replace someone for like art

Thank you

23:35

Since AI art exploded i see it practically everywhere

I have enough friends who do art so I hard refused to use it for art

Lots of my artist friends are struggling because they are competing against Ai "artists" for commissions

23:36

So we better

Would have been nice to play with u arch

Jean D. Unwilling

Since AI art exploded i see it practically everywhere

i hate it its like every good artist i see I have to check if they used ai or not and i dont want to support generative ai users

Yeaaa sorry luffy my mom called me for eid celebration and it went basically all night and half a day

23:36

I wouldve missed 2 phases afk

23:37

Its a yearly thing

23:37

Now its done tho, at least i didnt see goats/cows being slaughtered

Yuki Begrudgington

i hate it its like every good artist i see I have to check if they used ai or not and i dont want to support generative ai users

RIGHT

23:38

We're getting to the point that they can almost make convincing videos

Jordan

Im trying to see if using AI actually improves my ability to code

I would say no but it can make you faster

I saw vio3 or whatever its called

I mainly use it for when I need a specific utility function where Im confident I could do it but I know AI can do it faster

23:38

I don't really see how it would make anyone better though

23:39

Sometimes I ask it out of desperation for actual questions but usually it hallucinates

Ye, i mean im doing web design rn which is not my strong point and i dont want to £100 for a template that will need a lot of modifying anyway

The current state with stackoverflow dying, ai website spam and chatgpt is worse than a couple of years ago

Jordan

Ye, i mean im doing web design rn which is not my strong point and i dont want to £100 for a template that will need a lot of modifying anyway

oh yeah ive used it for css

23:39

i dont enjoy or like css

I mean im not touching CSS im using tailwind and DasyUI now as its way nicer to have a set pack

Thomas Sufferwell

The current state with stackoverflow dying, ai website spam and chatgpt is worse than a couple of years ago

Oh?

23:40

How is chatgpt worse

Jordan

I mean im not touching CSS im using tailwind and DasyUI now as its way nicer to have a set pack

same thing in the end

Is AI start feeding off itself lol

I think for web design its decent

Jean D. Unwilling

How is chatgpt worse

Chatgpt are littered with hallucinations, stackoverflow is not

Jean D. Unwilling

How is chatgpt worse

it learns from the internet, as people upload AI-generated things it learns from it and the quality decreases

I'm getting calls to hallucinated functions at least like 2/3 of time

Ive never heard of stackoverflow

Jordan

it learns from the internet, as people upload AI-generated things it learns from it and the quality decreases

So feeding from itself lmao

Stackoverflow is basically coding reddit

forum for programmers

Its the the holy grail for software development (edited)

Ohhhh

but it's been sort of dying

23:42

and the internet is additionally getting flood with AI content

23:42

so it's been getting harder to find the answers online

Ye, it used to be the place you could find someone who had the exact same issue like 4 years ago and some random person who had a solution

My only programming "experience" was learning C++ and python in high school, like 2010

so when it gets harder to find answers online going to chatgpt makes sense

23:42

but overall I found more use in pre-ai web searches than in current day chatgpt answers

Thomas Sufferwell

and the internet is additionally getting flood with AI content

Dying internet theory + AI + bots

23:43

We are so cooked

chatgpt can do things I can do myself faster, but it usually cant answers the things I also cant answer

Yuki Begrudgington

i hate it its like every good artist i see I have to check if they used ai or not and i dont want to support generative ai users

i accidentally liked one AI art post on twitter and my feed was flooded by ai accounts

23:43

even now i have to keep blocking them

Aleeeeeeeeex

i accidentally liked one AI art post on twitter and my feed was flooded by ai accounts

yehhhhh i havent had that happen but because all my feeds are just photography and art

23:44

it just comes up

23:44

and i have to block them

mine is pretty well curated

Jordan

Ye, it used to be the place you could find someone who had the exact same issue like 4 years ago and some random person who had a solution

the answer quality is also sometime insanely high for more generic questions

23:44

you can find answers that keep receiving updates for many years

there's very little ai art that gets in if i dont like a post by accident

23:45

i feel like even when it does its because big social media wants to push ai on us

23:45

otherwise more places would have anti-ai filtering

My twitter feed is thankfully genuine artists that i know of

23:46

~~More drama than art tho~~

if you dont click on the rage bait you actually stop getting it, worked for me

23:46

also bookmarking art posts helps

yeh its been mostly tiktok that ive been seeing ai, I stopped using twitter and my bluesky is very well filtered

Aleeeeeeeeex

if you dont click on the rage bait you actually stop getting it, worked for me

so well that now when im bored and i go on twitter there's no rage bait to entertain me

Until today idk how to use tiktok

and i can only play anime girl lotto for so long in like a queue at the store

Jean D. Unwilling

Until today idk how to use tiktok

just dont

I tried it but its pretty overwhelming to me

23:47

Maybe im just too old for that

i refuse to touch tiktok

i had it installed for like 3 days

i treat my brain bad enough with too many nights of too little sleep

tried to look up date spots on tiktok

but tiktok I cannot do to it

Jean D. Unwilling

I tried it but its pretty overwhelming to me

thats fair i just use it when im travelling and dont have anything to read

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23:48

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Bat

. You may enable this role with $icon set bat. You already have this reward so as a consolation prize you get 50 token

token

coins.

I only used tiktok to see my friends shared links

23:48

Damn

23:48

Consolation already

never had instagram and deleted facebook and snap a long time ago

23:48

but i was on discord way too much for a while too

23:48

win some lose some

discord's not so bad for you though

it's a different kind of bad

depending on what you do

i didn't have the best experience on discord

i mean obviously every bit of online activity is a bit bad in some way

23:50

but something like wwr doesn't feel particularly brain rotting

for sure not

I only had instagram to contact my irl friends a while ago but now im tempted to delete it

which is why i no longer think its an issue

23:50

but i needed months of detox at some point

23:50

just because of discord

I only use twitter for art stuff

lockdown symptom something something (edited)

My art i mean

23:51

I think discord has been the best until recently

Jean D. Unwilling

I only had instagram to contact my irl friends a while ago but now im tempted to delete it

hehehe i use it for both so now my coworkers are exposed to furries

Dvsggshshshshshahs

23:51

I only drew furry like once but even it was a bird oc

god's strongest warrior

Im pretty confident i can draw furries with a bit of learning tho

well its more so they asked for my instagram and i only have the one account (edited)

same vibe as logging into a univeristy zoom call and seeing someone with an anime girl pfp

Aleeeeeeeeex

same vibe as logging into a univeristy zoom call and seeing someone with an anime girl pfp

LMAO

23:52

I remember that and someone used their vtuber sona in a zoom call

a friend told me her pfp on zoom was her in a hotdog costume and she completely forgot about it for a while (edited)

Me and all my school friends use a mix of snapchat and instergram, mostly snapchat though as that was what was cool when we became friends

Yuki Begrudgington

well its more so they asked for my instagram and i only have the one account (edited)

Actually i use my instagram for when they ask for my social media acc in case of employment. My instagram has not been updated since like 2017 and ill just say im a silent reader without exposing my real socmed accounts

i have mostly the same friend group as ive had when i was 7 but none of us stuck with facebook

I guess thats pretty useful

Oh we did used to be a messager gang tbf

Facebook is littered with AI now. Basically AI junkyard

its just whatsapp

23:54

i think anyone in europe knows

Ye i have not used facebook in like 7 years

FB even shoved AI to ur face with just a click

i was so confused when whatsapp added an ai assistant

23:55

like

23:55

what do you desperately need to look up on whatsapp

I use whatsapp for work sadly

23:55

Its a must

i mean the app is fine

Everyone at work uses it

the desktop app is dogwater

Aleeeeeeeeex

the desktop app is dogwater

yeh

23:56

its so bad

23:56

omg

oh yea i agree

i hate it

Cant even receive calls

the scrolling just doesnt work

23:56

ever

Yeaaa and images can fail to load and you can miss important stuffs easily

Aleeeeeeeeex

i was so confused when whatsapp added an ai assistant

oh it annoys me so much

Is it true that college students use chatgpt for everything, that is so sad

23:59

I used to walk and board a bus from town to town to get to different libraries just to find my references

not everything but its convenient

Maybe if u ask something like "what happened in stalingrad 1945" but i didnt expect a raw copy pasting

00:01

Oof

00:01

Whats the booster time left

Boosters

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Ez

00:02

So 21

Jean D. Unwilling

Is it true that college students use chatgpt for everything, that is so sad

not much at least in my course but i know someone does

00:02

I also dont really like that person

I feel like if you use chatgpt throughout the year you're not learning anything for the exams

correct

Yea lmao

Those people figure out ways to cheat on exams anyways

yehh we only have assingments in my course

00:03

so it doesent really matter that much

nobody told me exams would be the least of my worries in uni

i think the approach my uni had of not caring about what you do throughout the semester much and only properly grading offline endterm already means you gotta learn your stuff

00:03

if your learning process does involved chatgpt that is fine as well

00:04

as long as you ultimately know your material

00:04

apparently chatgpt can actually be used as a learning assistant to generate questions for you

Sometimes chatgpt is inaccurate no? Better to crosscheck with actual references

though idk if its actually reliable to do that

one thing i use ai for a lot is debugging long error messages

00:04

especially with command line stuff

00:04

like pip errors (edited)

00:05

you can feed the whole stack

Jean D. Unwilling

Sometimes chatgpt is inaccurate no? Better to crosscheck with actual references

my experience has been very heavily riddled with hallucination

and itll tell you what went wrong

my experience with errors is that it will make up something

Jean D. Unwilling

Sometimes chatgpt is inaccurate no? Better to crosscheck with actual references

oh yes it can be

I spent 30m debugging with chatgpt

00:05

and not getting anywhere

00:05

then I sit down and actually think and research for 5m

yeah if it doesnt work first try it will not work after

00:05

it goes in circles

and figure out the error is somwehre so far away from what chatgpt did

00:05

yeah there is never any point in correcting chatgpt from what ive found

00:06

either it gets it right on the first try or you're doomed

00:06

but sometimes I desparately dont want to think

i dont mean looking for error within code though, i meant specifically long error messages that you get when you try to use something someone else wrote

I find it is extremly bad if you ask it about non standard things

00:06

If you use any libraries or apis it is extremly bad in my experience

Captain Drafted

She did what she could with the cursed cit fish claim

saying it in public was dumb cause it turns into "fish will just be lynched" from wolf pov and stops them from hitting me

Lmao

00:08

Idc im just happy she loses

so real

oh hi fish welcome back

howdy

congrats on winning

yup

We had a bloodthirsty www

i deserved this win

oh yeah i also gave chatgpt a picture of the laundry machine and asked it what the best way to wash my bedsheets was (the programme names are in german)

AND psycho

yea mr fish carried

common fish w

When will i get my lvl ups

of course

00:09

i worked so hard for this

I think i talked plenty

00:09

Already

Boosters

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00:09

Booster Help

Syntax

$booster

Functionality

Group of commands to manage your boosters. See $help booster <subcommand>

Aliases

- boosters
- bst

Subcommands

- $booster use
- $booster list
- $booster active

00:10

Boosters

Total Multiplier: 21 Here is a list of currently active boosters. x7 XP Booster - @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 88m left x3 XP Booster - @Jean D. Unwilling - 19m left

Well

00:10

Does anyone wanna add

00:10

Probably only 2x

00:10

So doesnt cap

i think it is extremely funny that i was the last psycho target

Lmao

Aleeeeeeeeex

i dont think they're gonna learn much by watching fish public claim tk

this is actually so incredibly valid

Coins

@Jean D. Unwilling, your current amount of coins is: 625. You can use $loot to purchase and open a lootbox for 100 coins.

uh oh

Damn

he's ego searching his name

thats so true i should be a mentor next game

Well i have a luck booster i think

its true

00:12

i always ego search myself even when i did literally nothing

Ego search

00:12

Lmao

i used my booster earlier

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uglysmile

00:13

fish dw about it

Everyone always used boosters when im asleep

00:13

Sad

Aleeeeeeeeex

i think fish played really really bad

i thought i replied to this already tbh but i deserved this win

Lmao

fish the only reason I knew you were ingame was because you were on swurtle's list

00:15

i dont think i would've noticed otherwise

Bruhhh

00:15

Thomas Sufferwell

fish the only reason I knew you were ingame was because you were on swurtle's list

yeah i read that already and found it funny tbh

That is so harsh

I mean I dont pay super much attention

like i probably should have been active but that IS just a funny line

he didnt send a single message for a few phases

Like any given game has several people I didnt realize were ingame

Get inactive bish

yeah but i was pretty IA i kinda forgot about the game for an entire day

Is it cuz ur cit and ur unexcited

you still hit the activity though so you're good

nah i can be excited as cit i just wasnt excited as cit

Thomas Sufferwell

you still hit the activity though so you're good

no but i was extremely surprised by this i was waiting for hosts to ping me in the final day

tbh I forgot i was hosting several times

00:17

like the game theme is real

so real for that

00:17

yeah

neither turtle nor me wanted to host

unlucky

and we also didnt have time

00:17

so

00:17

yeah

Lmao fish

i wouldve hosted if i noticed your plight

anyway you never know if Mike Werewolf will be at your doorstep next

mr fish hosting soon?

~~why cant we have a break and have off topic season where we just play minigames like wwress and loot~~

00:18

Without the ww stuff

Jean D. Unwilling

~~why cant we have a break and have off topic season where we just play minigames like wwress and loot~~

we did that once

00:18

S10SP (edited)

off topic season?

Idk what to call it but yea

00:18

Thats what i mean

00:19

Just chill and chat

we had a week of trivia, wwress, wwrdle and minis

Maybe with all day booster

I mean we can do that

00:19

but generally the server gets IA if we dont host

you mentioning s12p made me notice this mistake

Image attachment

lol

Bruh

00:19

Lmao

that for once looks like human error

00:19

and not discord shuffling

s10 gaming...

actually no

00:20

the entire category is fucked

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~~what about VC wwr~~

00:20

Okay ill be so cooked bc im terrible at lying in voice

too few people want to do VC wwr

00:20

its fun though

im so down...

we should do it more often

00:20

mwr task force should do something about this

My issue is that im hard of hearing tho

@Jean D. Unwilling when are we playing dbd again by the way i might have more hours than you now

Lol

ai generated discord captions

00:21

like in zoom

arch i have 422 hours

Idk im having stardew brainrot

you did this to me

00:21

NOOOO

Maybe I should join the mwr task force

im bad at lying in vc

Listen i wanna marry my girl first then i can think of other games

00:22

00:22

Upgrading house is expensive also

it says youve been playing 13 hours straight

Lol

this is true it does say that

I idled a lot

14 almost

00:22

ive been factorioing when im not dying by daylight

Its not my fault the game doesnt allow saving mid day

00:23

Oh wait u mean fish

00:23

Nvm

no you

Jean D. Unwilling

Listen i wanna marry my girl first then i can think of other games

is it abigail

O

we do mean you

Aleeeeeeeeex

is it abigail

Wrong.

Image attachment

oh

LMAOOOO

00:23

I wish we could save mid day

stardew consumed a full week of my life

i bought the game twice

I have it on phone too but i refuseto play on phone

it just feels like theres always one more little thing to do before ending

Im generally against mobile gaming. Hard control lol

Aleeeeeeeeex

stardew consumed a full week of my life

Me too it made me super unproductive

yea im not a mobile gamer

@Jean D. Unwilling YOU ARE NOW PLAYER WITH THE MOST POINTS EVER

unless its pokemon sleep

But its crazy addictive

Thomas Sufferwell

@Jean D. Unwilling YOU ARE NOW PLAYER WITH THE MOST POINTS EVER

What

00:25

How come

maybe ill catch you one day

idk since 2 games or so you are the all time top player

00:25

leila has been dethroned

Oh

00:25

Welp

Jean D. Unwilling

Im generally against mobile gaming. Hard control lol

i used to play the shit out of slay the spire mobile

Level up!

Congratulations, @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish! You have leveled up to Level 38! As a reward you have received 190 coins. Use $coins to check how many coins you have.

What do i do with that information

im writing up the end of season rankings

why the fuck am i still leveling up btw

00:25

whats the xp leaderboard command

Jean D. Unwilling

What do i do with that information

bragging rights?

Boosters

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Captain Drafted

maybe ill catch you one day

By now i have 600 styles

(edited)

XP Leaderboard

#1: @Thomas Sufferwell - 122737 [45] #2: @Chimera Shrimplain - 106221 [40] #3: @V. Byrdson Dutycall - 105404 [41] #4: @Kali M. Hostalysis - 102065 [38] #5: @Yuki Begrudgington - 92564 [35] #6: @HR - 88760 [39] #7: @Captain Drafted - 87234 [38] #8: @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish - 82256 [38] #9: @Lyle P. Overworked - 81540 [37] #10: @Cookie Dreadwaters - 73335 [35] #11: @T. I. Mennow - 64925 [11] #12: @Charlotte C. Burntout - 64858 [33] #13: @Steinator - 60864 [32] #14: @Jean D. Unwilling - 53408 [30] #15: @Aleeeeeeeeex - 43218 [26] #16: @Mr. Time-to-clock-out - 31620 [18] #17: @Basil 'Why Me' C. - 30227 [22] #18: @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 29761 [21] #19: @the kremblin - 28026 [22] #20: @Parker Reluctance - 26151 [19]

#21: @Escaped Thankfully - 24061 [20] #22: @👁 - 23166 [20] #23: @Dan S. Assigned - 22742 [19] #24: @gh0st - 21573 [17] #25: @Mia - 19869 [5] #26: @Aliii🎀 - 18124 [17] #27: @Emkay Forceme - 16620 [12] #28: @Hexakaty - 14137 [15] #29: @invincitank - 11965 [14] #30: @Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire - 11254 [12] #31: @Matstress - 10157 [12] #32: @aerosol - 9196 [12] #33: @ddd8000 - 7282 [11] #34: @Chopper D. Drafted - 4608 [2] #35: @Jordan - 4533 [4] #36: @Jordan - 3851 [4] #37: @Sarvak - 2579 [4] #38: @Sky Quiet - 1152 [0] #39: @Marten - 1003 [4] #40: @ikuya - 550 [2]

#41: @Amethyst - 367 [0] #42: @Unknown - 291 [1] #43: @derpsnorlax - 233 [0] #44: @BirdyEnforcement🦜 - 17 [0] #45: @ŽŽ - 15 [0] #46: @Unknown - 15 [0] #47: @hexakon - 12 [0]

i think this is still from the like 2000x XP boost

Jean D. Unwilling

By now i have 600 styles

styles?

ah maybe not

Oh wow im 30

00:26

I mean the level

Coins

@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish, your current amount of coins is: 4281. You can use $loot to purchase and open a lootbox for 100 coins.

MONEY!

wowowow rich

Captain Drafted

styles?

Sleep styles

maybe i can afford ONE lootbox...

Lootbox opened!

@Mister R. 'Fine' Fish opened a loot box and got a BRONZE tier reward! You won: The pack_bw

pack_bw

BW

pack_bw

skinpack. Use $packs select 20 to select it.

nope

wow that sucked

Werewolves Bot B

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Lol im 35 and 36

wrong decision

never opening a lootbox again

Its getting hard to get new sleep styles tho

anyway im rebalancing loot for s14 (edited)

00:26

slightly

Thomas Sufferwell

anyway im rebalancing loot for s14 (edited)

how so, should i be worried

are you doing singleplayer stardew arch

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

how so, should i be worried

idk, no?

I play multiplayer but i already had farmhands

00:27

They are offline so im alone now

Thomas Sufferwell

idk, no?

ok i trust you thomas sufferwell

some adjustments to chances and some new rewards, but nothing special

They helped me complete bundles in one year but i made a grave mistake and now they cant be completed until summer-fall year 2

unlucky

Bro I found a rabbit foot one day AFTER i upgraded my coop

00:28

That is so bullshit

Im mid winter year 1 actually

ive played up to year 4 before

00:29

but it gets boring by then

idk if ive ever gotten past like

00:29

2 seasons

Damn

i also think most of my playtime was spent fishing

now im playing fantasy life i, which i guess is in somewhat of a similar genre

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

i also think most of my playtime was spent fishing

Thats ironic what

00:30

I played Rune Factory before

00:30

And Harvest Moon is essentially my childhood so i know the basics

00:30

Story of Seasons too

i have early access to one of the big factorio mods updated to 2.0 so im trying that out

Captain Drafted

now im playing fantasy life i, which i guess is in somewhat of a similar genre

I thiiiink i played that one on PS2 but im unsure

Jean D. Unwilling

I played Rune Factory before

i was look OHHH FACTORY???? and got neuron activation then look and its a JRPG

Lol

00:31

Its basically stardew valley but more lore focused?

00:31

And u can tame monsters like pokemon

woah

I played on 3ds

arch did you ever look at that pinhead clip i sent you

00:32

i think it is pretty funny

im so confused now @Captain Drafted is on top

i beat arch?

luffy is just a better player obviously

you think so?

i think maybe this game wasnt in yet(?)

so when am i top

looks like arch got to #1 sometime this season, but now luffy got #1

unlucky

pensivefrog

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

arch did you ever look at that pinhead clip i sent you

not yet

00:35

meh i stopped caring about player ranks a while ago

Game ended!!!

congrats luffy

Captain Drafted

maybe ill catch you one day

this now became more ironic

my bad oops

lol

rn its a 0.2 difference in points

Boosters

Total Multiplier: 7 Here is a list of currently active boosters. x7 XP Booster - @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 60m left x3 XP Booster - @Jean D. Unwilling - -9m left

ooo

00:38

i thought it ran out

ooh the x3 is over

00:38

it did

what

wait no

its at -9m lol

why did it list

-9 min

wth

yeah idk

smh

but the total multiplier is correct

yeh thats weird

im genuinely confused how I achieved this bug

did i accidentally break the bot

nah this has happened before

00:39

but it seems to work well enough

00:39

we had another booster at -1m earlier

00:40

I guess it doesn't clear them out right away

00:40

but as long as it does the maths right idc

Werewolves Bot B

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Oh there was a 21x?

yup

yea lol

I missed so much

at least there is still a 7x booster

00:42

rn

XP Leaderboard

@Jean D. Unwilling has 53408 XP and is on Level 30.

damn

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XP Leaderboard

#1: @Thomas Sufferwell - 122737 [45] #2: @Chimera Shrimplain - 106221 [40] #3: @V. Byrdson Dutycall - 105404 [41] #4: @Kali M. Hostalysis - 102065 [38] #5: @Yuki Begrudgington - 92564 [35] #6: @HR - 89656 [39] #7: @Captain Drafted - 88374 [38] #8: @Mister R. 'Fine' Fish - 82256 [38] #9: @Lyle P. Overworked - 81540 [37] #10: @Cookie Dreadwaters - 73335 [35] #11: @T. I. Mennow - 64925 [11] #12: @Charlotte C. Burntout - 64858 [33] #13: @Steinator - 60864 [32] #14: @Jean D. Unwilling - 53408 [30] #15: @Aleeeeeeeeex - 43218 [26] #16: @Mr. Time-to-clock-out - 31620 [18] #17: @Basil 'Why Me' C. - 30227 [22] #18: @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 29761 [21] #19: @the kremblin - 28026 [22] #20: @Parker Reluctance - 26151 [19]

#21: @Escaped Thankfully - 24061 [20] #22: @👁 - 23166 [20] #23: @Dan S. Assigned - 22742 [19] #24: @gh0st - 21573 [17] #25: @Mia - 19869 [5] #26: @Aliii🎀 - 18124 [17] #27: @Emkay Forceme - 16620 [12] #28: @Hexakaty - 14137 [15] #29: @invincitank - 11965 [14] #30: @Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire - 11254 [12] #31: @Matstress - 10157 [12] #32: @aerosol - 9196 [12] #33: @ddd8000 - 7282 [11] #34: @Chopper D. Drafted - 4608 [2] #35: @Jordan - 4533 [4] #36: @Jordan - 3851 [4] #37: @Sarvak - 2579 [4] #38: @Sky Quiet - 1152 [0] #39: @Marten - 1003 [4] #40: @ikuya - 550 [2]

#41: @Amethyst - 367 [0] #42: @Unknown - 291 [1] #43: @derpsnorlax - 233 [0] #44: @BirdyEnforcement🦜 - 17 [0] #45: @ŽŽ - 15 [0] #46: @Unknown - 15 [0] #47: @hexakon - 12 [0]

remember when i was #2 ? good times

00:43

jkjk

Yeen shall rise back soon

Boosters

Here is a list of boosters available for you, @Kali M. Hostalysis. You can use boosters by running $booster use "<Booster Code>", where you replace <Booster Code> with the code of the booster you want to use. • +150 XP x1 (Bst:xp150) • Quadruple XP (3 Hours) x1 (Bst:gl43)

Quadruple XP

00:45

use it

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

i also think most of my playtime was spent fishing

oddly fitting

cmon

00:49

get it back to 28x

Im platinum

00:51

What that

Jean D. Unwilling

get it back to 28x

Nah

00:51

Ill be online for an eventual 50x ingame tho

00:51

So just keep that in mind

lol

00:52

sometimes ppl dont let u know when boosting

00:53

Where my level

you have become light

00:54

everyone but you is getting a level

Jean D. Unwilling

sometimes ppl dont let u know when boosting

Yeah like rn

00:58

Boosters

Total Multiplier: 7 Here is a list of currently active boosters. x7 XP Booster - @Swur 'Not Again' Tel - 40m left

I want more

How am I top 5 all time?

lol

01:02

idk

01:02

maybe played more?

Sharl 'Sigh' LeClaire

How am I top 5 all time?

youre the 5th most skilled player in the server

@Captain Drafted I doubt that is true

01:05

I just assumed people like Stein and Vera would have more points

you just played more

01:05

its the total points ranking

01:06

leila was at #1 for years after retiring

Whats with the half tokens

lol

Captain Drafted

Whats with the half tokens

01:16

We split it between eachother with the power of friendship

I wasn't gonna give kal a full token because they subbed out

01:18

and then i just went with it

Thomas Sufferwell

and then i just went with it

It's canon, we split it between eachother

I didn't even know you could give tokens to subbed players

Jean D. Unwilling

Where my level

Continue yapping

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

i also think most of my playtime was spent fishing

How fitting

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

why the fuck am i still leveling up btw

Catching up on levels?

Mister R. 'Fine' Fish

nah i can be excited as cit i just wasnt excited as cit

Cuz you wanted me to get wolves to kill you

Captain Drafted

I didn't even know you could give tokens to subbed players

I can do whatever I want

01:29

Anyway if you do well as CCiv you are very likely to get a token

lol

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