Werewolves Revamped - kidnapping-time

@55moolbkcuH has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @BudsAccount @55moolbkcuH

hi

get in the van!

sobbing at the name

05:17

is there candy then

05:17

if you have a white van

uhhh.... its vegan candy

05:17

but yes

ok bet

05:17

are you really cut

05:17

cit

cut

1

man fuck my autocorrect

lmao

05:17

yeah, im swole

what

but

what is swole

idk

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05:18

swole is like bro way of saying cut

you used the word

how do u not know its definition

idk

ok

im not a bro though

05:18

so what do i know

if youre not a bro then why say it like that

idk, cuz you said it first

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55moolbkcuH

yeah, im swole

you literally said it first

you said cut

05:19

and i said swole

05:19

they are synynyms

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my brain tired

spelling bleh

05:19

my brain is mush from all my bear stickers

what bear stickers

05:20

ok but no bullshit u really are cit?

05:20

that’s surprising

05:20

thought u were cult member ngl

idk what i am

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ok what is the purpose of this cc if not to confer about our roles

well.... maybe just to vibe?

but, i wont be giving info without an exchange in info

05:21

sooooo

what would u want

05:21

we could each say a role we’re not

im not a wolf

05:22

boop

im not either

05:22

that was the least useful exchange of info ever

im not a vampire

05:23

uh oh

05:23

the delay

05:23

do you suck blood?

delay insane

05:23

im not a vampire either

hmmm

sorry my disc stopped for a sec

hmmmm

not at usual place

im not a TK

what’s a tk

town killing

same

we're making progress

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i’m a role you would probably enjoy being

OOOO

05:25

youre cit too?!?!

no

oh

05:25

i love being cit

that’s my last role answering question

05:25

or else it gets too obvious

nothing to lose with cit

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55moolbkcuH

i love being cit

i know

BudsAccount

i’m a role you would probably enjoy being

what similar sentence can you say about your role

oh, your journalist

05:26

thanks for the info

that was my last role answering question

yeah but, i figured it out

so i cant respond to that

i dont need you to

did you?

05:26

worst comes to worst if im dead quan has my role

05:26

as in my role info

true.

05:27

but he might turn undead and we are all fuqs

wait can I just confirm timing in the game

05:27

hasn’t night alr passed

05:27

am i crazy

no, its currently night

05:27

night ends at 3am PST

night - day - current night (edited)

so whatever that is for you

no?

yes

05:28

day 0 night 1 day 1 night 2 (current)

so couldn’t quan have alr been turned into a vamp

05:28

or whatever they call it

uhh..... no not yet

isn’t it demonisation one night then undead if attacked

cuz 2 deaths on night 1. 1 death being the lone wolf trying to hit pack and failing 1 death being pack kill. if there was a turning, less deaths

mayb i should actually study this.

05:29

ohh okay

05:29

bet thanks

so like, if there are no deaths one night, it means someone turned

so we dont want no deaths

05:29

how morbid

or tonight, if only 1 death?

05:30

well

05:30

tonight is weird

why is tonight weird

cuz cult, and howling wolf could make for 3 deaths total

well.

so like, the number coming out of tonight..... if 3 deaths, then we dont have a turning

05:30

unless im missing something

05:31

but if its 2 then that doesnt answer anything

i think you’re right ?

also.... it could mean someone attacked quan who protected.

05:31

so that might reduce deaths too

05:31

lots of things to consider really

so basically inconclusive

unless 3 deaths

05:31

then no turned

how fun

yeah, most deaths, no undead. less deaths, could have undead.

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05:34

who you sending your journal to?

who says im journalist

05:35

and who says i know who id send it to if i was

hmmm

05:35

05:36

OH

05:36

wait

05:36

amnesiac maybe

there’s been a disproportionate amount of info sharing on your end

05:36

what’s your role

i already told you all i can tell you

55moolbkcuH

amnesiac maybe

who says im amnesiac

i have nothing left to say

hmm why is that all you can tell me

05:36

just curious

ive gone max info

oh wait are u going fr on the cit?

cit. duh

uh huh

aren’t there like 3 other cit claims

05:37

all public

05:37

why public claim anyways

but im not like the crazies out there that just say it in public

05:37

-# oops, i kind of did

you did say it in public

05:37

I back read

05:37

it was obvious as hell that you were trying to be seen as cit

it was kind of a wish washy jokey way to not be taken seriously

05:37

but.... the double bluff on it

05:38

quan knows my claim so thats all that matters

the way you said it it seemed like u were trying to get people to conclude it from a synthetic slip of the tongue

55moolbkcuH

but.... the double bluff on it

girl this did nothing

55moolbkcuH

quan knows my claim so thats all that matters

and is ur claim to him cit?

i like to make it unclear through nonsense

05:39

in town

05:39

ive also said im many other things in town too

your nonsense isn’t that nonsensical once you get used to the pattern

55moolbkcuH

ive also said im many other things in town too

like what

hmmm... good point

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05:40

i did say devout at some point too

05:40

and.... i swear i said something else

05:40

cult maybe

05:40

idk

yeah there were 4 devout claims according to quantum no one is believing that (edited)

55moolbkcuH

cult maybe

this was said by someone else iirc

yeah, i have no clue what i said half the time in there

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05:41

just yapping

05:41

but i did gather some info from the nonsense

huh interesting

05:41

what info

which.... i will keep to myself for now

05:41

well

ive been trying to yap less so i dont seem like a target for wolves

quan has it

55moolbkcuH

which.... i will keep to myself for now

why not share

05:41

you know im trustworthy

cuz you might be scum?

05:42

duh

im bored as hell

05:42

and not scum

basically, the fight against quan early game was to see who sided with me.

that makes sense

but you can do the rest of the work from there

isn’t that what lightpulp did

05:42

am i crazy

uhhh

05:42

idts?

05:43

idk though

05:43

i have had afk time

05:43

so maybe he did too lol

that’s so funny

05:43

do you think there’s any reason to claim publicly?

okay, i need to watch a show with gf. shes pestering me lol

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have fun

but ill be back in like 50 mins

kk

I’m back for some more kidnapping.

06:48

Where shall we go?

06:49

Hey wait! Are you back from your trip?

who knows

07:00

but

BudsAccount

do you think there’s any reason to claim publicly?

the question

Uhhhh

07:01

I mean

07:01

Quan should have your claim

07:01

So not really?

07:01

Public is mostly early game stuff to figure out who’s trustworthy.

07:02

But this game is weird with vampires. I’m worried he’ll get converted tonight.

yeah

07:02

if vampires dont convert him they’re dumb

Well, he’s likely demonized already.

so

07:03

what then

So it’s a matter of if wolves attacking luffy tonight him or not, which they likely will

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55moolbkcuH

Well, he’s likely demonized already.

wait didn’t u say there wouldn’t have been 2 kills if he was demonized

Yeah, so. Demonized -> attacked -> undead

ah gotcha

But attacked = dead

is a person notified if they’re demonised?

Nope

07:04

But like, it would be weird if Quan wasn’t demonized. Cuz he was heavily in the spotlight on d0

I agree

07:05

surprised he didn’t put himself as mayor after how much attention he alr brought to himself

07:05

why create another target

And him being the town lead makes him a good kill target. So vamps know he’ll get converted and with all the info he has from town lead, he’s a big asset to them.

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i’m assuming we dont get to know if someone turns undead

07:05

just proceeds as usual (edited)

BudsAccount

surprised he didn’t put himself as mayor after how much attention he alr brought to himself

Better to spread the targets around. Rather than 1 person having 2 powers.

I guess

07:06

cant they kill 2 people anyways tho

BudsAccount

i’m assuming we dont get to know if someone turns undead

We don’t. It’s simply 1 less death than there are kill actions (protections work the same way too, but that’s different)

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07:06

Yeah, wolves have 2 attacks tonight cuz of howl.

07:07

So hopefully Quan uses protection. But if he used it yesterday and is attacked tonight, he’ll prolly go undead (and we won’t know openly). Thats if he got demonized (likely)

so basically we can count on him going undead

07:08

does undead work as a third team for the solos?

P much.

07:08

Mayyyybe there is an exorcist due to amnesiac. But that’s unknown also.

undead would just have to get killed a second time to be permanently dead or what

55moolbkcuH

Mayyyybe there is an exorcist due to amnesiac. But that’s unknown also.

amnesiacs can choose roles not in the game then?

BudsAccount

does undead work as a third team for the solos?

Kind of support team to vampires.

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BudsAccount

amnesiacs can choose roles not in the game then?

Not choose. It’s randomly choosen They get the 3 roles on… uhhh…. Night 1? Then on night 2 they transorm?

07:09

Hollup

07:09

Yeah, night 2

ok bet

So amne will be the new role now

07:10

So hopefully they splash Quan.

what would be the best roles for an amne to turn into?

With this role list or like, in general?

in general I suppose

Hmm…. Pretty situational I guess.

07:11

And like, prolly also depends on the persons fav role.

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07:12

But on this list think360

Exo would be good for undeads.

07:13

Yeah, this one is decent for this list. For utility.

07:13

And… hmmm….

07:13

;tk

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;tp

07:14

Ah, another ti would be good maybe

07:14

;ti

why not townsfolk killing

Maybe Ft

hm

BudsAccount

why not townsfolk killing

Cuz we have cult

true

So like, yeah good, but not good if we don’t know who to attack

our only investigative roles are aura & inn rn?

And AT (aura teller) is pretty meh for Ti Cuz like, they only see threats based on the role killing or not. Which, vamps don’t “kill” so they wouldn’t be a threat. And also killing town would be a threat. So info is weird with them.

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07:16

So another Ti would be good.

so aura teller near useless ngl

07:16

what abt inn

Yeah, it’s not terrible, but needs to be used right and smartly

what would you consider a smart use case

BudsAccount

what abt inn

Inn is decent I guess late game when trying to figure out how much undead there is left.

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07:17

But imo, inn is kind of meh.

bc they can only figure out if a certain role is alive right

BudsAccount

what would you consider a smart use case

Smart is mostly going in the claims that aren’t killing to see if they come up as threat. Like, checking citizen claims, or devout villagers, or power town etc.

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BudsAccount

bc they can only figure out if a certain role is alive right

And yeah, that too

55moolbkcuH

Smart is mostly going in the claims that aren’t killing to see if they come up as threat. Like, checking citizen claims, or devout villagers, or power town etc.

Like, if aura teller checks a citizen and they come up as a threat, that person is a wolf.

couldnt they also be a cult leader

07:21

or whatever town killing roles

07:21

seems inconclusive still

07:21

mayb they have a reason to lie

Another thing to watch out for within heavily claimed roles are… pack most likely coordinated their claims. So if there are multiple ctcs in a role, that’s likely where the solos are also. Or packless.

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oh interesting

This isn’t a concrete rule, but it’s like… logical

yeah. it’d be interesting if pack strategised against that but I bet they didn’t

BudsAccount

couldnt they also be a cult leader

No, cuz if you’re working off of claims that the town lead has, the town lead would know to not check a TK, cuz that wouldn’t clear anything up.

okay yeah but a tk could lie and say they’re a cit

07:23

i mean it’d be stupid of them but

‍♀️

BudsAccount

yeah. it’d be interesting if pack strategised against that but I bet they didn’t

I know I have a few times just to fuck with the meta. But it’s generally not smart as scum as it kind of confirms other roles that aren’t ctc’d

yeah

07:23

i thought it was weird that devout had 4 claims

BudsAccount

okay yeah but a tk could lie and say they’re a cit

Tk shouldn’t be lying to the town lead. An easy way to miskill your tk.

i mean tbf one of them was snivy and they were making a last ditch effort on their way out death’s door but

55moolbkcuH

Tk shouldn’t be lying to the town lead. An easy way to miskill your tk.

ok figured but wasn’t certain

BudsAccount

i thought it was weird that devout had 4 claims

Prolly cuz a vamp and a wolf are in there

07:24

Or a packless

what if your tk turns undead then

They just become undead

07:24

Undead doesn’t have any abilities.

55moolbkcuH

Prolly cuz a vamp and a wolf are in there

so a vamp, wolf, snivy, and an actual devout

They are like an evil cit.

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undead sounds boring

Yeah, it’s just more gaslighting material for vamps basically.

they just lose their town role?

07:25

would undead win if vamps win

Yeah, they become a scum cit

07:25

Yeah, they do

why is everyone using the term scum

It’s just the term for evils around here

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55moolbkcuH

Yeah, they do

so why wouldn’t everyone just turn into a vamp except devout - minmaxes outcome

Yeah, that’s what I said as a joke earlier. But it’s considered game throwing to play against your win con.

07:26

Which is a no no.

07:27

Spirit of the game is to beat other teams and win with yours. Winning is fun, but not if you just break the game to do it.

07:27

(My hot take on that)

07:27

Also

07:28

That’s me.

07:28

Well…

07:28

️

07:28

That’s me

oops sorry people dmed me

07:29

back

55moolbkcuH

Yeah, that’s what I said as a joke earlier. But it’s considered game throwing to play against your win con.

oh

well thank god I wasn’t game throwing anyways

lol.

55moolbkcuH

Spirit of the game is to beat other teams and win with yours. Winning is fun, but not if you just break the game to do it.

i mean I agree on the undead thing here

07:30

but in general I love loopholes

Loopholes are good. But it’s pretty refined here. Unlike the donut place. So you’ll be starved for loopholes here

07:31

That said, finding ways to be creative with the role you have and how to manipulate the meta is always fun.

07:31

Hey look!!!

07:32

I AM mentoring afterall!

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07:32

watch u turn out to be vamp or wolf

07:32

and be feeding me false info

55moolbkcuH

Loopholes are good. But it’s pretty refined here. Unlike the donut place. So you’ll be starved for loopholes here

hey yall took my infinite money glitch away from me kicking and screaming

I mean…. No matter what I am, I’ll always give you accurate info about stuff. That you can trust

07:32

Manipulation comes later uglysmile

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yeah i’m just kidding dw

07:33

what would you recommend as a strategy for each of the town roles

07:33

just curious

BudsAccount

hey yall took my infinite money glitch away from me kicking and screaming

Well, we didn’t take it away per say

bro u killed coal

We just took someone else’s arms and legs.

fym didn’t take it away

Cheques and balances yo

07:34

Poor guy didn’t even know what he had done.

is there even any way to fully confirm someone’s role rn

07:34

that’s what’s getting to me

07:34

we can’t differentiate between vamps and villagers so like

Uhh, yeah. Reporter can do when you’re dead. There are mechanical ways to confirm yourself. Journalist can confirm (again when they die) What else is around?

ok fair

07:35

but that’s when you’re dead

They’ve been trying to move away from confirmable roles though. To make it less town trust bullying scum around.

great for scum horrid for town

07:36

unfortunately for me im the latter

Yeahhhhhh

BudsAccount

great for scum horrid for town

So you say headpat

07:37

We could both be scum, we could both be town. We could be anything really. Due to the unconfirmabklity, impossible to know for sure.

07:38

But like, socially, you seem legit. But I don’t know how well you lie either, so I’m still sussy until I figure you out sus

07:39

The best thing for town in most games is that, scum needs to also think about the other scum team (solo v wolf) So focus isn’t always on town anyways, that’s the one hope if town gets beaten up.

07:41

(Sorry, just checking roles in here now lol.)

07:42

Oh god, 2 vamps is scary

07:44

So yeah, you’re journalist. I’ve decided.

oh my days.

10:38

i just had the craziest conversation of my life sorry

ok actually back.

10:57

that was

10:57

insane

10:57

okay.

10:57

reading.

55moolbkcuH

We could both be scum, we could both be town. We could be anything really. Due to the unconfirmabklity, impossible to know for sure.

yeah the issue lies in unconfirmability

55moolbkcuH

But like, socially, you seem legit. But I don’t know how well you lie either, so I’m still sussy until I figure you out sus

not knowledgable enough abt this game to lie adeptly

55moolbkcuH

The best thing for town in most games is that, scum needs to also think about the other scum team (solo v wolf) So focus isn’t always on town anyways, that’s the one hope if town gets beaten up.

why wouldn’t town team up with one of the scum teams to defeat the other

10:58

am i crazy

55moolbkcuH

(Sorry, just checking roles in here now lol.)

that works

55moolbkcuH

Oh god, 2 vamps is scary

that’s a lot.

55moolbkcuH

So yeah, you’re journalist. I’ve decided.

who says im journalist

10:59

why are you so sure

11:01

@55moolbkcuH 3 deaths is weird as hell

11:01

only confirmable case

11:01

i mean good for us but

3 deaths means no undead

17:20

2 wolf kills, 1 cult kill

17:20

No demonized hit.

okay W

19:39

so we can trust quan rn

uhh, well, he said he used a potion to attack last night

19:39

so should be 4 deaths

19:39

19:40

but.... i feel like he wouldnt have public revealed that if he was scum.

well.

idk.... i may do some digging on that one

19:40

hopefully it was a conversion from cult or himself

19:40

not pack attack

do some digging and report back

ive been trying

19:54

its a brick wall out there

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20:00

i lean towards jay being vamp or town

20:00

cuz he quickly yeeted me from the cc wars.

20:00

if he was wolf then i dont think he would need the extra cc as much