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Citizen [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

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The Citizen has no special abilities.

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All the Citizens vote during the day on whomever they suspect to be an enemy and hope during the night that they won’t get killed.

15:33

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oh im cit ez game i shouldnt fuck up

15:36

i have no info to leak lmao

Hi swurtle

Sproutle

oh im cit ez game i shouldnt fuck up

im here to make sure of that!

15:53

@Host i have mentor program instead of mentor so i cant see any channels

I guess it doesnt auto assign mentor(?)

it worked last game

15:53

thanks

strange

15:57

oh wait is there a command to set a mentor

15:57

that would explain it

you

15:57

you made that

15:57

you made the command to set mentor

15:57

its in the gm guide too

yea but the latest ts update erased my memories of the previous week

15:58

or whenver I made the command (edited)

15:58

stupid system updates

turn off auto updates id suggest

15:58

its been a few weeks bc it was made like 2 games ago

ah

okay so @Sproutle keep in mind that claiming cit is not the way to go

16:00

only if theres a tt

16:00

if theres no tt, you gotta bait

16:00

or just stay silent/refuse to claim

16:01

3f3 works but its better to avoid/lie so people wont suspect youre cit

16:06

oh and ping me if something is happening

16:07

so i know what to read

FlorousBirds

im here to make sure of that!

yes, vera we got this

vera i dont tell kal my role this early? I dont think i should be monarch

this early? not neccesary

18:52

you could go for monarch as a joke but dont take it seriously

18:52

dont think wolves will target monarch this early on and you definitely dont wanna be undead targeted

oh god what is that skinpack

flip!

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everything is just upside down

ah

@Sproutle make sure to backread if oyu havent already

23:14

stuff's going down

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don't react immediately, it's smart to first backread and get your thoughts together

Omg congrats Vera on the level up

ive levelled up like 3 times already this game its hilarious

So I see quantum got monarch

23:17

Lmao

Sproutle

So I see quantum got monarch

yup

23:17

do you understand the reasoning why?

Witch claim

yup

23:20

i recommend backreading from the ping onwards, you can get some reads on people

I feel like Quan isn’t real witch cuz why would witch claim this early

23:23

Bestie feels towny

23:26

Quan is asking for claims already but he’s unconfirmed

don't claim yet

23:26

he's not fully confirmed in any way yet

23:26

even though there has been no counterclaim, there still is time for people to counterclaim

23:26

think about people in different timezones etc

23:27

You could mention that if you really want to have an excuse

I wasn’t going to claim

But it seems he isn't really desperately asking

23:28

yeah, good on you swurtle

I see chimi is corrupted

backreading is next to impossible for me bc the chat keeps scrolling back to the current time on phone

Oof but I see the current light and bestie arguement and bestie feels more towny especially after that. But i would say light is scum either right now at this point

i see

10:53

thats the recent town square discussion, no?

Yes

Interesting conversation

10:56

Light is playing all "What if vamps" while Jay is playing for "Current Town"

10:56

make of that what you will

Yeah I side with Jay more right now

Jay's reaction is very passionate

10:57

It does read very towny but Jay can be just as passionate when scum tbh

10:58

What I'm saying is, don't go on your instincts and cc them "i think youre town" or something

10:58

eyes_sus

10:58

Im keeping an eye on you

Yeah I’ll pay attention more as well

You're doing well so far

11:01

No need to engage in conversation when you don't have anything to say, but still showing activity

Ok ddd last min witch claim feels like something ddd would do whether he’s town or scum

It feels very ddd, no?

11:02

It could've worked out if he didn't die, but now we're left with nothing to go off of

11:02

Stay alert and keep and eye on conversation

Got it

11:05

Was the two kills cuz of howling wolf?

possible

11:06

however, thatd mean that no other wolf could do anything

I have a hard time believing witch would kill n1

Sproutle

I see chimi is corrupted

which would go against this

11:07

theres a lone wolf too swurtle

Oh right forgot about the lone wolf

possibilities are witch, lone wolf, wolfpack and howling wolf

Sproutle

Oh right forgot about the lone wolf

stay alert

11:07

its been mentioned

Got it

i generally spam my cc with various theories (or town square, but thats not always as wise)

Ok light seems more scum for thinking ddd was just last min claiming witch to cause confusion

but do you believe ddds claim?

11:09

youre tunneling on light being scum for arguing with Jay

11:10

this initially means you trust Jay, or at least strongly read them as town

11:10

ddd could been witch or not witch

I think I believe ddd over Quan right now

FlorousBirds

this initially means you trust Jay, or at least strongly read them as town

I read Jay as town

Sproutle

I think I believe ddd over Quan right now

reasoning?

Sproutle

I read Jay as town

reasoning?

11:11

im just making sure you understand the possibilities

11:12

youre known for overreacting so its good to discuss the how and why

Jay seems towny cuz he’s providing all the possibilities of what’s happening meanwhile light is focusing on niche scenarios that are unlikely to happen

FlorousBirds

reasoning?

Even though it’s hard to tell whether or not ddd is town or scum at times I have a hard time believing as a scum he would stay up just to claim witch right before phase change

interesting

Oh might bringing up wolf cub where there is none is sus

11:31

*light

i hadnt even noticed

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355126995763204217

good catch

11:33

you can go in on it

11:34

yup

11:36

light is bullshitting, dont go in on it

11:36

let others carry the conversation

11:36

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355128380663791636 actually thats the funniest thing you could say at that moment

Lmao thanks

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355129064322633758 light is grasping at straws

11:40

you understand what's going on?

Yeah I see light’s scenario that could be plausible if pack somehow hit someone who turned undead or witch used protection already and hit a protected person

How would it be plausible tho

11:44

check the lone wolf description

It’s very unlikely

11:44

That was not me who looked it up in town square lmao

no but im telling you to read it

11:45

and then compare it to what light said

Wait if that’s the case ddd didn’t ensure against attacking Wolfpack and it was a lone wolf suicide

You're missing something

11:48

is it possible for a lone wolf to kill and suicide at that same time?

No

then how does light's statement make sense

It doesn’t

ddd ensures he might kill a wolf but how does that have to do with witch kill

It doesn’t relate

you can do it swurtle

11:52

make sure not to trust players on their definitions of how roles work, always check for yourself

Thanks Vera

no matter how experienced they are, roles change

11:53

thats this lesson here for

11:54

@Host for confirmation, LW suicide means that they don't attack the wolf team member, correct?

11:54

Seems to be some confusion about it in town square

FlorousBirds

@Host for confirmation, LW suicide means that they don't attack the wolf team member, correct?

If a LW attacks a member of the wolf team, the LW dies and there is no attack

Thank you!

11:57

I was doubting myself there but I can in fact read and other can't

Ye made me doubt myself too, I was like this role has not changed in forever right?

Yeah exactly

12:02

@Host Striking cry prevents Corrupt Wolf from corrupting, correct?

12:02

Why do people always argue instead of just asking

Cuz people jump to conclusions to early including me at times

Sproutle

Cuz people jump to conclusions to early including me at times

Pinging hosts is getting free information if youre unsure

12:03

It's important to work under correct assumptions

FlorousBirds

@Host Striking cry prevents Corrupt Wolf from corrupting, correct?

Yes when striking is used it stops all actions other the attaks

Thank you!

12:04

Go report that to town square swurtle

12:04

Make sure theyre aware that you read descriptions and look stuff up instead of blindly following what others are saying

12:08

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355136266710024255 congrats swurtle

Thanks Vera

Arch also reads towny right now for me

Ok what arch mentioned about ddd is interesting

12:33

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355141818106515607

12:36

With ddd’s inconsistencies it makes me think he could be scum

12:39

Ok arch saying ddd attacked jay and cuz ddd died so Jay is scum is too much of a stretch tho for me

chimi feels real idk why they would lie about being corrupted if she's -1 more likely not in wolfpack not ruling out vamps yet for her tho

it seems like more people are going to claim to quan cuz he feels real over ddd cuz of the inconsistences but im still hesistnt to claim to quan just yet

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okay whatd i miss

18:38

you claimed to quan?

18:38

reasoning?

18:42

huhhh why is he asking to promote

18:42

thats seems so weird

18:43

dont listen to him without getting an explanation first

18:43

there shouldnt be a need for you to promote him

FlorousBirds

reasoning?

quan seems like the more likely real witch over ddd cuz of his inconstencies so more people are starting to trust and claim to quan

do you think quan's request is reasonable?

18:50

why would cult not believe quan to the point the need your cc?

18:51

ultimately its up to you but think about it before you react

i aint promoting him until cult needs to see it

if you think its fine, you can go ahead

18:51

thats fair

18:51

tell him that

I’m confused why Luffy is being voted for mayor and Ali for the lynch

ask about it

21:19

ask for an explanation

21:19

if you think he won't answer in town square, you do have a cc with him

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i think that's the safer bet

21:19

thanks bot

@Sproutle make sure to keep an eye on town square and consider everyone's arguments

Got it kinda busy right now tho at dinner with my bf

21:50

So 4 claims of devout so I guess Quan wants to start lynching devout claims

FlorousBirds

@Sproutle make sure to keep an eye on town square and consider everyone's arguments

Ok Quan doesn’t wanna explain the Luffy mayor

yea

21:54

weird

21:54

also what the hell did luffy just say

that's a pretty unneccesary defense

21:56

but i get it

21:56

but he's being a bit unreasonable about it (edited)

21:56

just leave it for now swurtle

21:56

as cit, its sadly enough none of your business

Got it

it'll only put sus on you

21:57

and we dont want sus from the town's side

Probably for the best cuz as cit I have no to leak

a wrong kill or a mislynch would be bad

21:57

stay on the sidelines for now

21:57

but make sure they know that youve given up on wanting to know

21:58

so they know you've accepted their answer and won't try to investigate much further

21:58

sadly enough this game truly is sad for cits

22:00

no swurtle dont quote dream he's problematic

Ok sorry I don’t know how problematic he is I don’t follow him that well

he's got grooming allegations

22:04

Oh yikes

22:11

Also not the saying the r-slur either

DID ARCH JUST PUBLIC REVEAL MY CLAIM

04:24

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1354825569233010719/1355381679862186126

04:24

Or are they saying coal claimed cit

04:24

I can’t tell cuz I’m tired and need to eep

04:25

Oh wait they went back to when I claimed cit d0 for the monarch thing….

no you publically claimed cit

10:04

missed that

10:04

why the fuck did you do that

10:04

well

10:04

actually

10:04

why are others even believing that (edited)

10:05

theyre so unnecessary pushy on you

FlorousBirds

why the fuck did you do that

Well this was back for going for monarch thing

13:15

Well time for me to backread and go figure out the 3 deaths

good luck

Sproutle

Well this was back for going for monarch thing

well yeah but you didnt have a reason to go for monarch in the first place

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I see

monarch in itself doesnt benefit you much

13:17

you're not one to find info easily so you can't make educated decisions

Well people scum read bass so did witch kill him

and now that they're taking that claim seriously, your chances of baiting are out the window unless TT trusts you

Sproutle

Well people scum read bass so did witch kill him

theorize around it id say, what could have happened?

Pack killed time and mat cuz of howling wolf and witch killed bass

13:19

Also I guess pack didn’t go for Luffy in case witch protected him

Sproutle

Pack killed time and mat cuz of howling wolf and witch killed bass

how do you think so? (edited)

13:20

do you believe the sus put on bass?

13:21

and could there be missed kills bc of protected players or undead players?

13:21

don't end it at "this is what i see so this is what happened"

13:21

what if they put sus on a player to prevent them from being killed?

FlorousBirds

and could there be missed kills bc of protected players or undead players?

It could be but 3 deaths is a lot already so I doubt

how many killing roles are there in the game

FlorousBirds

do you believe the sus put on bass?

I’m going to have to back read his messages and see for myself

Sproutle

I’m going to have to back read his messages and see for myself

that's good

13:22

keep fact checking and keep reading

13:22

think for yourself

13:22

also whatever arch asked is really weird

13:23

he might be trying to see how you reacted to the kills

13:23

trying to see if you have any reaction to losing a teammate, for example

13:23

don't go in on it too much

13:23

he was already sus of your cit claim

13:23

just leave it be

13:24

reacting to stuff like this is exactly how you get yourself into stupid situations in the first place

13:25

anything you do and say in game channels can be taken in and out of context and can be used against you, so pretending to be sad bc of the kills can make it so people twist your words and say you're scum

Got it

13:25

But I don’t find bass scum after backreading

there's never a need to react to people if those people aren't confirmed in any way

13:26

arch especially likes testing you, it seems

Sproutle

But I don’t find bass scum after backreading

now go look at the killing roles please

13:26

and are we certain that the striking howl was used, and not any other kind of howl?

Oh chef can kill with poison food

???

13:27

that's a stretch swurtle

;tk

and not what im reffering to

Oh cult

look at the role list

13:27

there we go

13:27

cult can kill

13:27

but if youre convinced a striking cry was used, then how do we only have 3 kills?

I was getting cult and jurors confused in my head

pffffft

Sticker

theres no embarassment in looking up roles

13:28

fact-checking is very important

Sproutle

I was getting cult and jurors confused in my head

I was saying that cuz of this

and as this information is just freely available, there's no harm in checking all the time

13:29

check roles and mechanics, ask host questions

13:29

that way you stay informed

13:29

and keep everything into account

Got it so yeah could be cult, witch, and wolf kill

what could have happened

13:29

exactly

13:29

is there a possibility of undead? do you think witch protected?

Can’t rule out poison food either although a stretch

youre compeltely right about that

FlorousBirds

is there a possibility of undead? do you think witch protected?

I think witch protected cuz wanted to keep luffy alive

fair point

13:30

but what if that didn't happen?

Also probably witch protected Quan too

13:30

Oh wait quan protected himself

Sproutle

Also probably witch protected Quan too

this implies the suspicion or knowledge that quan isnt witch

Assuming he’s real

if you wouldve said that in public, people mightve questioned you on it

13:31

be mindful of what you send

Yeah that’s why I’m theorizing in here

yup

13:31

i think its decent if you want to theorize in public now

13:31

just name some possibilities, see what sticks

13:31

and ignore arch's invasive questions

Also I find arch’s questions now scum and also Mia cuz they believe bass was scum reading back which I don’t see anything he said as a slip or sus

that's a fair suspicion

13:33

have you thought about keeping a list of who you read as scum or not?

Good idea

its usually good to keep track of public claims, suspicions and known roles

13:33

that way you dont lose track of who claimed what and who keeps silent etc

Got it

13:35

Also was thinking about confronting Mia and Arch about I don’t read Bass messages as sus but I don’t think that’s a great idea cuz that could make me more sus in their eyes

13:36

And light being confused on how bass is scum too makes me think he’s towny now unlike what I thought earlier

Haru has been quiet

good job swurtle

14:21

i think youve worded some nice points there

Thanks, and also still ignoring arch

yeah good job on that

14:23

as long as you ignore him, you give him no reason to continue his weird sus on you

14:23

and he'll eventually stop

Oh chimi also read bass at sus wtf did I miss when backreading his messages I have no idea or maybe it’s just comparing his behavior now compared to previous game

i think its the latter

14:25

as open tt last game he was very pushy and active

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pushing for public activity etc

Ah I see

take that into account

14:26

what he says this game might not have been sus, but compare it to his previous games too

I didn’t notice how bass was acting in previous games so that was a my bad in previous games

and consider that his strats might change

Sproutle

I didn’t notice how bass was acting in previous games so that was a my bad in previous games

its hard to consider bc you cant look back on the previous games

14:28

we have previous game archive but we're not allowed to make them public bc of TOS

Yeah makes sense

Ok I should have not have asked what people thought of me just cuz I saw ocean do it

14:52

Sticker

14:53

And they’re noticing whenever someone accuses me of being scum I disappear and ignore it

Ok asking Quan if a journo claim died in public probably wasn’t the best idea I was just asking for clarification

youre only making yourself more suspicious

Ok I’ll stop yapping in town square

they're not being particularly nice to you tho

16:14

like damn calm down

Real

Ok chimi is unctced cult member hence reporter

16:52

Shit, I’m being voted out for a lynch along with Ocean

16:52

How do I get out of this lynch

16:59

Uh what other defense do I give

I’m trying my best to defend myself without you…

huj

17:44

lmao

17:44

you were too sus

17:45

just keep saying youre cit

17:45

and dont say like "lynch someone else"

17:45

say theres nothing you can do otgerwise

17:46

theres not much you can do but keep fighting

17:46

keep saying youre cit

17:46

the more you fight the more townie you look

Alright trying to fight but I don’t think they’re gonna listen

18:28

sobbing

FlorousBirds

say theres nothing you can do otgerwise

They’re saying I could of tried going for a fake claim as cit

hey listen im getting drunk

19:19

just say youre cit

19:19

keep saying it

19:19

theyll know once theres a rep

19:19

keep fighting

19:20

just keep going

19:20

doesnt matter what it does

19:20

make sure you seem town

19:20

keep on fighting

Lmao have fun getting drunk

FlorousBirds

hey listen im getting drunk

whoo alcohol!

drinkup

Well at least arch picked up that im persistent this time but I think its too late

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