Werewolves Revamped - the-runner-who-ran

@Cutie has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @The Stoic @Cutie

I think its safe to say that I got saboed and you were attacked

15:47

should have been the other way around, or not cause you wouldent get reporter

15:47

anyways im cit

15:48

you are now un counterclaimed runner

thats wild

16:25

I think it is likely I was sabotaged then

16:26

@Cutie you should probably promote me here / public claim this?

16:27

though there is one person that has not yet spoken

i think its possible that they checked me with sabo for being recluse

✅ Promoted @The Stoic!

I think it's likely they would attack and sabo me

16:30

Recluse is a low chance of a hit

16:31

Also people don't think of that

16:31

I didn't realize tbh

16:31

You should probably claim to be journalist

16:38

yeah I would say you can public claim journalist which confirms me except for sky quiet who I am left to assume is intetionally only speaking in SCs

16:38

claiming journalist mixes up the slots for other people for claim collection so it is better than claiming citizen

16:38

thoughts? @Cutie

The Stoic

Also people don't think of that

actually nvm thats obvious

16:39

I am not sure what I thought recluse was

yeh but i think the journal claim is good

ah so what they likely did is: 1. sabotage any runner claim 2. if they reply and claim recluse, attack the other, if not attack the sabotage target

16:40

but as long as you are not recluse and did not reach out to them, it should be me that is sabotaged

but sabo is end of night

as the "sabotage target reaches out to pack" case cannot have been hit

16:40

no its immediate

oh

so they thought I was more scummy, sabotaged me - but I didnt reach out even though I was active

16:41

thus they know im not recluse

16:41

then they attack me

yeh thats probably what happened

good of you to think of the recluse x saboteur wolf interaction

16:41

tbh I didnt even realize saboteur was ingame

16:42

yeah the I think you should go for a journalist public claim, then nothing is stopping me from claim collecting?

ok so only problem is if i claim journal now

16:42

oh

16:42

but 2 ctc

no but you have an excuse for not ctcing journalist, right?

oh yeh

because you were claiming runner

16:43

you can double check your public messages

16:43

to see if you were supporting swurtle

16:43

because your random eelection strategy is sound if we assume you are a journalist who knows another journalist is fake

16:43

but if you supported swurtle that is questionable

hmm i didnt vote in poll and never said anything much other than calling swurtle wolf

16:45

i did also call kal recluse once

16:45

eh ill just go for it

Dw about getting lynched for now

17:09

Hold on to journalist claim

17:09

I will be home in 20m and speak more

okay im back

17:37

fish saw you as journalist, but DO NOT MENTION THIS ANYWHERE

17:37

in my mind this confirms you

17:37

you could be wolf, but then fish would claim to have seen you as citizen

17:38

you could be hell but that's crazy

17:38

I guess it increases the despot chance but I kinda already ruled that out D1

17:38

I was RIGHT

17:39

I did consider the possbility of you being town (though I was leaning scum) but I thought it was wrong when you didnt come out end of day

The Stoic

fish saw you as journalist, but DO NOT MENTION THIS ANYWHERE

wait fish claimed to wager invest me and saw journo??

you werent particularly trying to make me seem scummy so I made sure to keep repeating that I know you are scum

Cutie

wait fish claimed to wager invest me and saw journo??

yup, confirms them as wolf and you as town

17:40

all other options are straight up bizzare or insane

17:40

you could both be wolves who: a) chose to do an unconvincing counterclaim b) go through with my switched claim plan c) and then immediately come up with another insane plan to claim to have seen you as journalist to make me trust you

yeh i dont think i could be seen as journal unless tanner but no tanner

but this sacrifices fish to make me trust you

17:40

when I likely was already going to mostly trust you anyway

17:41

so I do not really see a believable reality in which you and fish are working together

17:41

thus you are safe town and fish is safe wolf

The Stoic

you could both be wolves who: a) chose to do an unconvincing counterclaim b) go through with my switched claim plan c) and then immediately come up with another insane plan to claim to have seen you as journalist to make me trust you

yeh this sounds crazy

I was mapping out all saboteur combos as well

17:41

While I was driving

17:41

I was thinking that you made yourself a bit sus by not considering what I did

17:41

But I guess that's irrelevant thanks to fish

17:42

SWURTLE SAW PKR AS CIT

17:42

WHAT

17:42

IM GOING INSANE

17:42

HOW DOES THIS MATH OUT

there is sneaking

so fish and pkr are DIFFERENT confirmed scums

17:43

but I was ruling out fish as hell

17:43

since they got the wager

17:43

but maybe they chose NOT to send the wager then

17:43

unless pkr is not disguised devil

17:43

though pkr was active during D0

17:44

so fish is crazy hell team

so more than 1 cit claim other than me

pkr is sneaking wolf

17:44

though pkr was talking about souls

17:44

but in a way where it sounds like they didnt understand fully

17:44

though this could be fake

17:44

it could be devil or demon with inteitional citizen disguise as well

17:49

I really cannot think any reason why I should not be able to fully trust you

17:49

@Cutie any ideas?

well there are 2 cits idk how many claims you have but pkr could be real or could be sneaking

The Stoic

though this could be fake

more than likely

light is cleric

17:52

kal still claims journalist

17:52

sharl claims scum

@Cutie

Citizen

‍⬛ @Bird Chaser

@The Bright Kid Cleric

Cleric

@Serena

@The Fosterer ~~@Mr. Dappy~~

️ @The Stoic Runner

Runner

✨ @Eagle Eye SCUM yes

(seen as Citizen)

@Fair Kid

@Scruffy Claims Journalist DeadGameMaster

@Daredevil

️ @Young'un

@Worrywart

@Shybie

Despot?

(OR SCUM)

@Smart Alec SCUM yes

(claims Citizen)

@Stubborn Child (edited)

wait if pkr is seen as cit why scum. I think im missing something

sharl claims despot

18:08

lmao

18:08

in cc

I have no read on ddd

The Stoic

sharl claims despot

ofc

18:10

that would make sense also why no claim

yeah its believable

18:10

50/50 on scum or despot tbh

18:10

but I told him to public claim despot and I will sue claim collection to try to find a better lynch

18:10

idk if I will

18:10

but its his best shot

18:11

he can side with either team in the endgame then

yep that makes sense

im not gonna reveal I trust you or anything yet

yep that makes sense

do not share info in hi

18:12

you can use this as a backup should I die

18:12

e.g. devil soul kill

yep

18:13

got it

Sharl has advised against him asking for packless claims bc nobody would fall for it and at best wed get a townie claiming packless

18:20

I was asking so we can find a better lynch target

18:21

This is weidly accurate and helpful

and right now there is only 1 cc per person

18:24

so if someone dosent claim to you its sus

18:30

wait so what are the chances you are saboed

18:30

cause currently you are being voted

I wanted to think it through further

19:19

You suggest: wolves use sabotage as a recluse checker

19:20

under that assumption the following cases exist 1. they sabo me -> they find that i am recluse -> they attack you 2. they sabo me -> they find that i am not recluse -> they attack me 3. they sabo you -> they find that you are recluse -> they attack me 4. they sabo you -> they find that you are not recluse -> they attack you (edited)

19:20

1 and 4 are trivially excluded (edited)

19:20

case 2 is excluded due to fish

so given assumption "wolves chose to find recluse", they sabotaged me

19:34

which leaves the question on how likely this assumption is

19:40

@Cutie should we reveal you as TT?

19:41

then we could elect you

19:41

otherwise swurtle as shes bad at lying so I think she's legit but thats not safe at all

19:43

PKR says they knew about SnW showing as Citizen but did not realize devil's wager would be affected by it

19:43

They were trying to go for MAYOR!?

19:43

lol

19:44

I overread that previously

19:49

@Cutie strategy suggestion: we ask swurtle to resign (we publically say we suspect she is wolf but will hold off until tomorrow) and ask exactly one cleric to protect me and see if I survive

19:50

thoughts?

19:54

My bets are on PKR being the Sneaking Wolf and fish the devil or demon

19:57

okay but that means lynching PKR is the smart move

19:57

but I am also in progress of creating a weird fake reality where PKR is in town trusted

19:58

i feel like this might give me opportunities to terrorize wolves

@Cutie I think we gotta make you mayor, though I'm unsure how I can believably spin it

20:51

note: ocean and ddd chose not to claim so far

20:51

lean scum

20:51

(basing this on the fact that they have talked several times but not claimed)

I have just relaized there are 2 citizen

21:05

that doesnt change that fish is guaranteed to be fake, but pkr can totally be real

21:05

in fact they probably are

The Stoic

HOW DOES THIS MATH OUT

by there being 2 citizens..............................................

21:24

sky_quiet has 0 public messages or voting behaivor, so at this point it has apparently become valid to point this out and say that is sus

21:24

I assume they are a scum role and are talking in SCs. Otherwise I think there would've been action from Hosts

@Cutie looks like phase change is an hour early. I will go for: • lynch fish (confirmed scum) • elect you unless I hear from you

21:33

I do also think asking swurtle to resign has merit if we get a second cleric claim though we may only get the claim post phase change so this is kinda tough. It would give us opportunity to tell different info to both clerics and thus create a pseudo protection on both of us

21:40

I GOT MY SECOND CLERIC

21:41

Townsfolk TownsfolkCard

Journalist - @Scruffy yes

(Claim)

Journalist - @The Fosterer yes

(Claim)

Citizen - @Cutie yes

(Confirmed through fish claiming they saw them as Journalist and in general through strategy) Citizen

Citizen - @Eagle Eye maybe

(Claim), @Stubborn Child maybe

(Claim)

Cleric - @The Bright Kid (Claim), @Serena (Claim, less believable) Runner

Runner - @The Stoic yes

(no ctc) ~~Assassin - @Mr. Dappy (Reporter)~~ TownsfolkPlaceholder

Tattletale - @Worrywart yes

(no ctc)

Werewolves WolfCard

Sneaking Wolf - PsychicWolf

Psychic Wolf SaboteurWolf

Saboteur Wolf Wolf

Wolf ~~Recluse - @Smart Alec (Reporter)~~ ❓ Unknown ❓ @Daredevil scum

Intentionally did not claim, likely scum @Young'un scum

They chose not to speak, highly likely scum @Bird Chaser scum

Claims Assassin, Confirmed Scum @Fairer Kid scum

Cleric, but does not mention the prompt, likely scum HellCard

Hell Team HellCard

Devil

Demon

Unaligned UnalignedPlaceholder

Despot - @Shybie maybe

(edited)

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The Stoic

@Cutie looks like phase change is an hour early. I will go for: • lynch fish (confirmed scum) • elect you unless I hear from you

I SOLVED IT

21:43

I can say the following: fish confirms you as Journalist - thus I do think you are trustworthy. However they did keep this info secret which makes me not trust fish

21:43

okay now that I write it out that barely sounds believable

ok sounds good to me

Cutie

ok sounds good to me

Please vote the following •

@Cutie for @Reporter •

@Smart Alec for Lynch Reason: I have cced with yuki and I am now convinced they are almost guaranteed to be Journalist. It's not safe but it's better than running into "no reporter" situation with me, which I think is quite likely. Yuki's strategy is a known and extremly towny strategy and I have no reason to believe that this is the first time scum have attempted to pull a new variant of this. They have also been supposedly checked by @Smart Alec through the devil's wager - @Smart Alec confirms their role as Journalist. I do not think this is accurate, but it still supports the election. If you backread town square from today you will find that the information from @Smart Alec does not seem to be based on anything they knew, I think they in fact made this info up to cover the fact that they got the wager but did something they cannot share. They only "knew" this info after it already was common knowledge. Furthermore they did not reach out to either yuki or me at night even though at this point both of us would've likely been confirmed in their mind. Nor did they share this information publically. In fact if you backread they just stopped talking about the wager checks entirely at some point even though they were last discussing that they would check me. ----------- How does this sound? (edited)

22:03

will send in a few minutes if you're not here

yeh that sounds good

22:04

at least i think

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1374479433762869318 i think s13g7 i done it as chef

22:12

but that was a whole other mess

dont share anything in #i-wager-checked-you

22:13

chances still is one of them or both could be wolf

22:14

though im always tempted to believe anything that swurtle can keep straight for longer than a day

22:14

actually! feel free to backread pkr's chat and try to get a read

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22:14

I thought they were scum originally since i thought there is a single citizen but i have now changed my mind

22:14

Now that I have gained basic literacy skills

22:21

ANOTHER CITIZEN (turtle)

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 20-5-2025 22:25

okay assuming all goes to plan I will tell light to protect me and ocean to protect you

22:40

that way we should both be safe

22:41

one (or technically both) of them will be scum, but they will not be able to attack us without revealing themselves

22:41

I will also tell both that they are the only cleric

22:42

PKR does question my resignation strategy which is good because it is questionable

22:42

so another point in their favor

22:43

in case fsr an unhinged devil kills me for literally no reason, you should ask one of the two cleric claims to protect you, and the other to protect idk swurtle or someone

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for ocean im making it seem like you are a power role worth protecting

23:01

I tried integrating it in the message for light as well

23:01

but it was too obvious

23:02

if they respond I will integrate it at a later point

23:02

I want both to think that one of us is protected and the other worth attacking

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Report?

we got packless

23:02

but they got assassin

oof

fish=recluse dansan=assasin

awesome

23:06

lets see if my cleric plan pays off

23:08

im missing 5? claims

23:09

im gonna say im missing... like 3

yeh that sounds good

23:10

also sky still has no activity

yup

23:10

I asked jay if I can assume its intentional

23:10

Like if they had 0 messages they'd be out

23:10

so they ARE talking, SOMEWHERE

wild

Or hosts are pathetic and sad

23:11

But I know the hosts are not

23:11

So sky is scum

23:11

Thanks for coming to my talk

23:12

or they are monloguing an evil monologue in their sc like im doing

23:12

except mine is not so evil

yeh think unless we get someone more confirmed scum it would be a safe lynch

but uh what is there to monologue if you do not talk in public, scs or ccs

23:12

"today I did nothing"

23:12

"i have once again done nothing"

23:12

inbefore they are journalist with an insanely detailed journal

23:13

(yeah as if that would ever happen)

23:13

even if they are not scum they are a townie who has chosen to do... nothing?

23:13

so they have no value either way

does mayor resigning not show up in storytime

apparently not

23:14

I dont know if anyone has done it this year with the new bot tbh

well there is nothing is the formalisation about announcing it so i guess its intended

23:15

just make sure to let the clerics know

I told one cleric to protect you, one to protect me

in case they miss it

let me check which way around again

23:16

lightpulp will be protecting me

23:16

ocean will be protecting you

23:16

so if one of us dies, the others knows which cleric is fake

yeh but im saying let them know there is no mayor and they can protect

if both die we cry together in dead_spectator

The Stoic

if both die we cry together in dead_spectator

i think this cant happen unless pack wager kills

23:17

and both clerics are fake

I do not yet have all claims

23:18

so both clerics COULD be fake

23:18

but even then one of them will think they have to fake their defense

23:19

Who's the target boss who's kneecaps you need me to go check up

Are they claiming tattletale?

23:19

I lack basic literacy related abilities

The Stoic

Who's the target boss who's kneecaps you need me to go check up

Are they claiming tattletale?

assasin maybe? or cleric

23:20

ask for their specific role

oh assassin would be wild

yeh but it would be claimed by pack

I feel like that is generelly not done

i think ive seen it done

yeah it happens

23:21

they have not said their role and are now asking me if my defense is gone?????

what

23:22

this is bass

23:22

right

oh yea

oh then could be anything

lol

just tell him you are tt for x and x reason and to tell you his role

23:23

tt as in town trusted

gonna try

so you're claiming assassin then? cause ive been looking for one

to push him to an assassin claim??

oh yeh

23:24

thats a good bait for scum

IT IS

23:24

LMAO

no way

thanks for suggesting assassin lol

23:24

I was on TT

wait maybe we can tell we have a ctc and we will test if targets really die

oh fuck I did just say I dont have a ctc yet with 2 non-claims remaining

23:26

but I can say I got one of the claims later if necessary

so we can tell bas to like kill someone who is likey scum

23:26

yeh

but they cant?

23:26

like idk what the point of an assassin claim is tbh

yeh but it might get pack to attack hell

oh they are thinking sharl is attached to us

so no kills and wastes a soul

which is good

23:27

ive been thinking of spreading info that sharl is not actually despot to random people

23:27

in fact I should just straight up say that to #i-wager-checked-you and I can imply the same to [bass cc] (edited)

The Stoic

in fact I should just straight up say that to #i-wager-checked-you and I can imply the same to [bass cc] (edited)

no access to the second one yuukisob

my bad

23:28

thats the bass cc

ah yeh i think that works

oh also fyi there's a bit more to sharl as well, but I don't wanna share his actual role yet. though pretty sure he's town as well at this point, though less likely than anyone here

how about this for #i-wager-checked-you

23:30

bass is suggesting they have wolf targets

yeh think that works

Cutie

so we can tell bas to like kill someone who is likey scum

but ok what i mean by this. we tell bass there is a counterclaim (we dont know what scum bass is but likely pack). if we give bass a likely hell target and have pack attack hell for us we can get them to waste a soul

okay but who is likely hell lol

23:33

we could also leak a fake claim list to #i-wager-checked-you which contains bass as asssassin

yeh idk did tatteltale claim yet

I wish we had a bigger sc to leak info

23:33

The best leaking opportunities are the two cleric claims, i wager checked you and potentially bass right now

yehh or you can leak to bass that un ctced

he "figured out" he is not unctced now

23:35

bass is accusing amethyst and sky

23:35

easy accusations to make

yeh but also if they dont claim they could be hell

yeah so he should go ahead and kill one of them

hmm no tatteltale info though right

maybe I should tunnel on one of them for literally no reason

23:36

then that implies info about the other one

Cutie

hmm no tatteltale info though right

wait yeah

hmm yeh that could work

there should've been a second one by now?

yeh maybe pack got bothe

23:37

or ia?

23:37

The reasoning he gives is extremly basic

23:38

Should I tunnel on sky? amethyst has at least spoked (and also at the same time as me) so it is valid to see a connection between us

Cutie

yeh maybe pack got bothe

yeh there is 3 wm its unlikely but possible

So I will tell them "i think you are right about sky. you should attack them"

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23:39

its not really tunneling too hard but I cant make it too obvious

The Stoic

Should I tunnel on sky? amethyst has at least spoked (and also at the same time as me) so it is valid to see a connection between us

yeh

I will simply not discuss amethyst

23:39

which in turn might make them attack amethyst

23:39

and both outcomes are good

amethyst will be on in like the next hour

23:39

so likely to claim then

oh, should I hold off then?

cause australia

riight

23:40

Shall I just say I will get back to him later / ask how early he needs the target?

yeh that should work

23:41

bass should be up till like 5/6 hours before pc

okay good

also light is likely town

yeah I think so too

light speaks a lot less in town square as scum

23:42

as in duringday

ocean kept accusing me of being scum and then would not substantiate it with anything

23:42

which is entirely unhelpful

as scum convieniently misses the day

The Stoic

ocean kept accusing me of being scum and then would not substantiate it with anything

yeh that too

arch claims cleric

hmmmmmm

wait

23:43

only the real cleric will even realize they can protect, won't they?

oh maybe

I should NOT have asked both clerics

they might say they cant cause they wouldent get prompt

should've had them ask me if they should protect anyone

23:44

I will not tell arch

yeh see its too late for ocean and light

23:45

hmm so 1 real 1 pack 1 hell

aaaaaaaa why did I ping them

23:45

arch has not mentioned it yet

23:46

god tbh it is SOOOO obvious that we intentionally did the resign to any real cleric

23:47

actually if arch does end up being scum we can unlink them from pkr/swurtle which may help confirm those two

do we have info on wagered

no

23:47

should I ask if anyone claims wagered or TT info?

The Stoic

actually if arch does end up being scum we can unlink them from pkr/swurtle which may help confirm those two

oh yeh

The Stoic

should I ask if anyone claims wagered or TT info?

yeh i think so

23:48

it would be good to have

23:48

also any "threat" at this point has to be pack

23:48

right

23:48

cause no assassin

yea

23:49

Ts: but if you have any info or like anything let me know Arch: noted

23:49

we should switch swurtle's journal back to cit?

23:50

i feel really bad about it but I just think swurtle is so extremly bad at lying you can trust her by default

hmm possibly have the other cit confirmed

waiiiit

23:50

we have no journalists ctcs yet

since we have multiple

so possibly my journalist startegy is paying off double

yeh journal are both likely real

Should I ask arch if cleric is one use?

23:51

nah might be too obvious

23:51

I need something a bit more tricky

23:52

maybe something like "anyway we might need your defense tomorrow in case swurtle dies"

The Stoic

maybe something like "anyway we might need your defense tomorrow in case swurtle dies"

hmm yeh this might work

we're missing 3 claims: ddd (intentionally uncooperative) sky_quiet (intentionally quiet) amethyst (expected in 1-2h(?))

00:00

I need to create more trust relationships with people so I can have a higher chance of leaking data to wolves noowaoa

00:02

its between the 3 non claimers of who is TT and I guess who is faking TT?(???

00:02

did I fuck up?

00:02

did nobody claim TT at all

00:03

wait also no JOURNALISTS??????????

00:04

like yeah that was the point

00:04

so the final 3 claims should be: Tattletale x2 Journalist

Worrywart is TT

00:12

that is good. Journalist would've been bad

00:12

we now have journalists and TT unctced with only extremly sus people remaining

00:14

n1: checked dardevil (ddd) n2: checked scruffy (kal)

00:14

cced ddd, hes the last one remaining

00:14

were not getting anything out of sky

00:14

well i guess we couldve tried

00:15

but I rate our chances low

00:17

ddd says he will never trust somebody with 2 ctcs alive evne if they are retracted

00:17

mhm

00:17

for sure

00:17

sound legitimate

well without the full context its a valid reason to refuse claiming but not after everyone else allready did (edited)

The Stoic

Worrywart is TT

this checkes out

if ddd's claims is anything but Journalist it will be interesting

00:20

but realistically it is Journalist and he is scum

00:20

Though admittedly he probably is MORE cooperative as scum

00:20

But in this case he is now forced into a position where he must cooperate

its 7v4v2 and despot

00:23

we have all but 2 claims

sky quiet and ddd are both effectively claiming scum

yep

im not willing to consider strategies or scenarios that rely on a town player gamethrowing

00:24

I will give ddd a few more minutes to claim Journalists before I consider the Journalists confirmed

00:26

its been like 60 hours with no visible activity from sky at this point

yeh...

00:27

also i looked through turtles messages and idk if i belive turtle or pkr more as second cit

00:27

1 is definitly sneaking

i cannot hope to ever read turtle

00:27

he is simply too good

00:27

though he hasnt done much this game

yeh thats the problem

00:28

well he was subbed in for someone who left

last messsage to arch was

ou got any reads on anyone? Always useful to hear what everyone else thinks. i will let you know if we need your defense once swurtle dies but obvs i cant share anything for now

btw which did not get a reply yet

00:29

Also luffy sort of confirmed that resignations arent announced

00:29

Which is accurate according to role descs and formalizations

The Stoic

Which is accurate according to role descs and formalizations

yeh i mentioned the formalization not having an anouncment earlier

ah

The Stoic

Also luffy sort of confirmed that resignations arent announced

You can always check the discord roles

whats a wise TT check?

00:30

Citizen or Cleric?

00:30

I do think arch just didnt react in a way that implies he has a prompt....

00:30

And the other cleric we can potentially identify if one of us dies

00:30

though otherwise we cant

00:31

I would think PKR maybe?

yeh... i think arch is a good bet

wait how does SnW work with TT?

00:31

or devil

;tatteltale

❗ Could not find role tatteltale. Did you mean tattletale?

though it appears only SnW is claimign Cit

00:31

yeah so checking cit is pointless

yeh

epic (edited)

00:32

sky_quiet then for a sanity check?

yeh

like im definitely locking them in as scum, but a check would be good for my sanity

im leaning more for cleric

00:32

but thatalso works

i just think arch would've said it

00:33

they're a good player

00:33

they get pinged for the prompt

00:33

they would've mentioned it

oh yeh

we could check one of ocean or light

00:33

but then one of us might die anyway, exposing one of them

00:33

so it may be wasted

00:33

though arguably sky_quiet is definitely wasted

00:34

we have no move but to lynch them basically

yeh

if they are town then hosts just hate us and we're down a player for no reason

we need cleric to protect correctly

so I guess it is literally worthless to check

00:34

buuut my sanity noowaoa

00:35

now that arch is a cleric its unclear if I told my target to hell or wolf

especially with hell sk when they are about to be lynched

so my plan has severely increased chance of failing now

00:35

with just 2 clerics it was almost guaranteed we both live, as wolves would know not to kill one and cannot kill the other

00:36

however now they may not have any info on who should be protected

00:36

(in case one of light/ocean is hell and the other town)

00:36

but its still fine

00:36

a death is bad but it still confirms a scum AND a townie

yeh it will still out a fake

00:36

i think i may be dead

00:37

if ocean is hell

yup

or swurtle

00:37

i think they would just want to prevent guardian

00:38

and might not relise

well there is no mayor

00:38

LOLK

00:38

OHHH

00:38

if arch is the wolf cleric then there's a chance nobody got the info to pack

00:38

that'd be funny

thus the cit will be confirmed too

00:39

unless pkr is sneaking

ooh I should ask kal about his target

Cutie

unless pkr is sneaking

but snw doesnt get journal??

The Stoic

if arch is the wolf cleric then there's a chance nobody got the info to pack

.

oh wait but you could get the journal

00:39

wait cit is actually not great

00:39

cause youre cit

00:39

thats like

00:39

useless

00:40

I got to deep into my lies

00:40

I forgot you are not actually journalist

The Stoic

but snw doesnt get journal??

no but i mean about getting info to pack

ooh

00:40

yeah thats true too

00:40

but my realizatrion is true too LOOOLLLL

but also cit journal is good cause its the only way to diffrenciate snw

00:40

from cit

yeah but 50% you get it

oh

00:41

only 1 gets it

yea

hmmmmm

i dont even know what kal is on rn

00:42

I should ask

00:42

i told????? kal to ???? targhet celric

00:42

i do not recall

00:42

KAL's code is: Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

00:43

I didnt know I had this interaction

00:43

okay im gonna be gone for a bit and unless I have anything from ddd afterwards I will create a tt chat with: me, you, kal (but not swurtle because I do not trust her), and amethyst

00:44

there shouldnt be any issues with that, right?

yeh that works

00:47

i have a spare cc let me know if i should make it or hold off for now

Should we reuse the one I made with you?

00:55

Otherwise we can keep that one as proof for now, and you make a new one

yeh have that one be succession of lead

00:55

and make a new one for general conversation

00:56

and discussion

yeah sounds good

01:00

lets lock ddd in as scum

01:01

something I have just found: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1374406273680015542

01:01

he quite literally said we are now good to claim

Cutie

and make a new one for general conversation

go ahead and make it if you can. I also realized we have to review the assassin/basscy situation

01:03

we do not want amethyst killed now, actually

hmm oh yeh

might as well lock in sharl as despot as well

01:05

the only alternative is ddd/sky a cit claim to be despot

so its $cc create who-is-this :tools: :yeen: :sunflower:

01:05

just making sure i have the correct people

me -> tools yeen -> kal sunflower -> amethyst right?

Signed Up Players | Total: 16

- yuki_not_cutie (@Cutie)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) thight

- swurtle (@The Fosterer)

- dansan (@Mr. Dappy)

️ - mctsts (@The Stoic) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

- jeand.arch (@Fairer Kid) yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy) deadgamemaster

- ddd8000 (@Daredevil)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mrrfiish (@Smart Alec)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child) (edited)

looks good to me

yep ok i make it

uh

01:06

ah

what??

it took a while to show

ah ok

Any reason not to share everything?

01:07

its driving me insane that ddd did not claim, but I think i will still just straight up everything

01:08

if ddd ends up being real Journalist or Tattletale he'll have been gamethrowing

01:08

And I really cannot be considering that

yeh that makes senes

He was the first to say we can claim and then chose not to

and yeh it makes sense to share at least the claims

I can try contacting sky with the cc I stole from fish actually

01:19

it only contains public info anyway

yeh worth a shot i guess

HOLY SHIT SKY QUIET REPLIED

01:57

WHAT

yeh i saw

01:57

what?

in cc too

01:58

well I hope its not journalist

01:58

but if it is thats not on me

yeh

01:59

have they claimed?

no lol

01:59

lightpulp: Good morning! I got you (and myself) blessed! Feel free to have Assassin confirm by attacking me. If I'm legit, the attack would fail, which might at first seem like a waste of assassin hits but getting another mechanically town trusted is worth it. And if I'm fake, I'd be scum you want to get rid of anyway so Assassin attack goes through.

hmm sus

The Stoic

lightpulp: Good morning! I got you (and myself) blessed! Feel free to have Assassin confirm by attacking me. If I'm legit, the attack would fail, which might at first seem like a waste of assassin hits but getting another mechanically town trusted is worth it. And if I'm fake, I'd be scum you want to get rid of anyway so Assassin attack goes through.

solid?

yeh that works

light also suggests you and ocean are hell team

accually might be worth leaking that to maybe save me

02:13

idk

02:13

but that causes more confusion

02:13

but i think bass might also no relise hell can protect

I am considering if I should tell light I think hes sort of trustworthy as I did do the prompt test for his counterclaim and they didnt mention anything

02:14

I cant leak that to bass without him noticing, I think

02:14

There's not really any trust there

The Stoic

I am considering if I should tell light I think hes sort of trustworthy as I did do the prompt test for his counterclaim and they didnt mention anything

(not mentioning that there is 2 ctcs)

02:15

I do think its wise

02:15

if hes wolves then he might think hes the only prot active, if hes hell it doesnt meatter, if hes town we want to have trust anyway

02:15

so its useful in all possibilities

The Stoic

I am considering if I should tell light I think hes sort of trustworthy as I did do the prompt test for his counterclaim and they didnt mention anything

yeh that works

I wonder if ocean will bring up the same thing

02:17

its very towny of light to do it

02:18

its like 70% odds for light to be real, 20% for ocean and 10% arch, though I have yet to see ocean's reactions so this isnt based on much

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1374705234848256130 swurtle i said dont say who it is about

You can see why I'm not telling Swurtle anything

yep

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373861343534252104/1374800510489464895 what?

he wants journalist to target journalist

19:27

since there are 3 journalist claims

yeh but thats pointless in the first place

I should approve the suggestion and ask you to target journalist while swurtle stays?

Cutie

yeh but thats pointless in the first place

is it?

19:28

Should i claim that assassin seems to have hit hell team?

no

19:29

at least dont think so

but I will approve the journalist suggestion

19:29

and ping you to switch to journalist

19:29

I think it has merit

sure

The Stoic

Should i claim that assassin seems to have hit hell team?

i would say no just on the off chance pkr is hell and knows, i doubt it but yk just in case

ooh so true

might be worth it as night rolls around to ask for if town gets wager to contact you first (edited)

yeah

I will need to let pkr and swurtle know about our plans to switch vote to ensure they will be there