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@The Fosterer has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Eagle Eye @The Fosterer

Hi pkr

05:14

I saw you as cit

Wait no please don't tell me you gave them a bonus soul aaaa

I’m journo currently targeting cit you could get my journo

Ah ok

Eagle Eye

Wait no please don't tell me you gave them a bonus soul aaaa

No investigation doesn’t give souls to hell team

05:15

In return hell team knows I’m Journo

05:15

Should I public claim journo like Kal did?

Ohhhh ok! Go for it

05:16

And I guess tell them you'd checked someone lol

Yee

05:18

I mean if you get my journo youre like double confirmed as cit lmao

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Hey Swurtle, what should I do claims wise? Do I just come out as a cleared Cit or do I try and take a bullet by claiming something more powerful?

05:24

I've thought through multiple plays this game

Hmmm

Like I'm a solid mayor thing because either they waste a kill on a cit or we get to reporter/guardian

Yeah maybe I should promote you in case I die so you can go for mayor if you actually get my journo

1

05:35

So there’s proof I trust you

1

I think that's not a bad idea. So am I going to just true claim or do I do some fakery to try and bait a kill?

✅ Promoted @Eagle Eye!

Eagle Eye

I think that's not a bad idea. So am I going to just true claim or do I do some fakery to try and bait a kill?

Hmmm

I'm trying to work out what the correct play is because I'm just.. eternally citizen-ish or dies immediately lmao

Well you being town lead would be good if you can survive long

05:38

I just wanna die so I can confirm someone to get town trusted started lmao

Yippee

If other cit gets journo, they’ll know your cit cuz made a note of if it in my journo

05:41

And I’ll tell them to push either themselves or you for mayor

05:41

Or just elected in general

That works for me honestly lol, I honestly hope the other cit gets it? Because then we can have a town trusted of cits and be gaming

Real

05:43

I hope Kal if he’s real journo didn’t target cit lmao

Oh my god, both of yall just like "Have the cits do things", that's a funny thought

Lmao

05:52

Real

@The Fosterer I did it :3 I've convinced them to Mayor you for now lol. I think you're good and if you're playing me.. well fml lmao

thanks

19:59

welp if i become town lead i hope i dont swurtle moment

nooo ts wants me to switch my target to runner

00:01

sob

You get to choose.

00:07

I think it's a decent strategy but

‍♂️ I'm fine with the citizens town trusted plan lmao

I wanna follow along with Ts’ plan cuz I wanna gain trust with him and knowing who real runner is would be useful

00:09

Anyways what’s your keyword?

Fragment

Thanks

It's funny that ddd thinks that me trusting you makes me a wolf when you're the one who made this CC because you learned my character x3

Lmao

Do we trust TS enough to like.. add TS here? Because if so we can plan the whole reporter thing and do our own machination here.

if he isnt runner we're fucked thi

Yes I know but like.. TS is claiming to have been attacked so it's hard to think what to do here. Plus it means we can properly organise like secondary mayor should you die and/or organise reporter between ourselves

15:17

I guess there's the risk that Yuki was attacked and just hasn't said it. So we should wait for Yuki? Like I just want to do whatever helps us solve and form a TT

i mean ts hasnt cced me yet and i would like to discuss it just him and i instead of public so maybe he doesn't have a cc available?

Hm.. So why wouldn't ts have a cc anymore?

Recluse talking to wolves? Used it on Kal? Used it on someone else? Those are the things really I'd guess?

yeah cuz if he suggested people cced me and send me their code why hasnt ts has done it yet

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well uh i guess we can add ts in here now if ts is only runner

Yeah let's do that

✅ Added @The Stoic to the CC!

hi ts

16:49

uh this is basically town trusted

@The Stoic hi TS, Swurtle is Journalist who checked me with the wager

16:49

Feel free to read up

hi

17:46

oh nice

17:46

epic town trusted moment

Yippee

17:48

But yeah we're going to have to think how we approach the whole repo and mayor stuff

yee and whether or not its worth you getting my journal or we try to confirm someone else

17:50

btw ts uh wanna add a keyword/code in my journo?

uh

Townsfolk (8) Journalist - Kal/Yuki/Swurtle Journalist - Kal/Yuki/Swurtle Citizen - PKR (Checked by Swurtle) Citizen - Cleric - Runner - TS Assassin - Tattletale - Werewolves (5) Sneaking Wolf - Psychic Wolf - Saboteur Wolf - Wolf - Recluse - Solo (2) Devil - Demon - Unaligned (1) Despot -

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18:31

This is what I've got

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 20-5-2025 18:31

Sneaking Wolf will show as citizen so I cannot trust you yet

19:24

We will see if anyone counterclaims citizen

Oh! That's fair

19:34

I read that Sneaking Wolf can disguise but I thought that the demon wager would be like 'immune' to it since you're giving away your role in exchange for it

devil's wager investigation is not particularly strong

19:36

it is affected by both weak and strong disguises

19:36

(in fact all investigations that see a role are affected by both weak and strong disguises - as weak disguises are sort of defined by only affecting role investigations)

Ah fair enough

The Stoic

Sneaking Wolf will show as citizen so I cannot trust you yet

are wager checks affected by strong disgusies if so pkr could be devil

I believe: a) wager check is affected by both b) devil disguise is weak

19:45

Lets double check

19:45

;wager

19:45

why would it not say

19:45

;devil's wager

Wager

You have received the Devil's wager! Wager

Wager

You can decide to either: 1. Attack a player who still has a soul, but sell your soul Soul

Soul

in the process. 2. Protect yourself or any player, but sell your soul Soul

Soul

in the process. 3. Check someone's role, but the Devil will see the result and also your role. 4. Ignore, and don't do anything.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

am I illiterate or does it literally not say

it doesnt say

I don't think it says, that's why I thought I was just.. clear?

@Host I think wager recipient isnt mentioning that investigating is affected by disguises (unless im illiterate). that is kinda critical. please fix or note

19:46

;wager

19:46

I SWEAR there is another message

The Stoic

@Host I think wager recipient isnt mentioning that investigating is affected by disguises (unless im illiterate). that is kinda critical. please fix or note

In fact please confirm wether devil's wager is even affected by disguises

Oh.. the devil knows I'm a Cit. So I can't pretend to be strong

As I cannot find the correct text

The Stoic

@Host I think wager recipient isnt mentioning that investigating is affected by disguises (unless im illiterate). that is kinda critical. please fix or note

It is

then where does it say that in the bot

Oh. I'm less clear than I thought. Welp

19:49

I thought you knew the ~ commands to check it ts

~wager

The Ferryman

I thought you knew the ~ commands to check it ts

I do

19:51

But there should also be text

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

I think there should be a wager info message which is fsr showing this instead

19:51

But I think this is a deleted message

19:51

actually devil will say it, maybe?

Devil [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Each day, the Devil may choose one player to send the wager to, who may then choose one of four options: attack, protect, investigate or ignore. Should they choose to attack or protect, their soul is sold and added to the hell team's pool. If they choose to investigate, the Devil will learn their role, and both will learn the role of the player chosen for investigation. The hell team can use obtained souls for protection or to attack players. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion of a member will fail in some manner. When everyone is dead, unaligned, or soulless, the Devil wins.

19:51

❗ Could not find role deveil. Did you mean devil?

19:51

Devil [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

Each day, the Devil may choose one player to send the wager to. The wager recipient may choose one of four options. The Devil can use the hell team's pool of souls. When everyone is dead, unaligned, or soulless, the Devil wins.

Details (1/2)

During the first phase, the Devil may choose a role as a weak disguise. This defaults to citizen. At the start of the game, the Devil's soul is added to the hell team's soul pool. The Devil then becomes soulless. The Devil may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Devil is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Devil. See $info souls for a detailed explanation. The wager is sent at the start of the night. The wager cannot be sent to a soulless player or redirected. During the night, the Devil can anonymously communicate with the wager recipient. The wager recipient may sell their soul to protect or kill a player; they may choose to investigate the role of a player, at the cost of the devil learning the Wager Recipient's own role; or they may do nothing. The result of a wager investigation is visible to both the wager recipient and the Devil.

Details (2/2)

If a player sells their soul, a soul is added to the hell team's soul pool. The player then becomes soulless. See $info wager for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. Any attempts at conversion or recruitment of a member will fail in some manner.

Nope, this does not say either

I'll put it in the issues channel

So I think nothing specifies thats how the role works

19:52

thanks

19:52

is it meta to say that this does make me think pkr is not lying?

Oh well, I hope that I'm able to be socially trusted at least

19:53

I thought that the devil's thing was more clearing than it was and I don't think it's 'good' to be able to clear me for it. What if I'm just.. evil and playing a blinder? Haha..

yeah though this entire interaction is difficult to fake

The Stoic

So I think nothing specifies thats how the role works

I swear it used to, idk if it got deleted at some point

yeah theres a wager info message

But yeah affected by weak disguises

the one that is mentioned in devil desc

19:55

it says run "$i wager"

19:55

but that pulls up the wrong thing

19:55

actually maybe there is a weird alias setup?

This was not how I was planning on being town trusted by having a social check on a mechanic

✅ Removed Wager!

;wager

19:55

nope

19:55

no clue

19:55

We dont even use "You have received the devil's wager!" anymore

Eagle Eye

This was not how I was planning on being town trusted by having a social check on a mechanic

idk feels kinda wrong to base it on this

19:56

but you literally couldnt know it as you couldnt look it up

i mean im still not gonna tell you much but it is a solid lead

I'm perfectly ok with that!

The Stoic

it says run "$i wager"

this used to be its own command i SWEAR. ive sworn this for ages

19:58

idk if it got deleted

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this used to be its own command i SWEAR. ive sworn this for ages

yeah theres a specific info message for it

Souls

Members of the hell team that can use Souls - soul users - may use a Soul to protect someone from all attacks for the current night. If used in this way during a day phase, the player will be protected during the following night phase. Using a Soul to protect a player is an immediate effect. Soul users may use a Soul to attack a player. The player will be attacked immediately. If the attacked player is soulless or a part of the hell team, the attack fails. The method of their death is not revealed (except to coroners). This ability may be used during both day and night phases. If a soul user is attacked during the night and there is a soul in the pool, the soul user will be protected and a soul will be used up automatically. A soul is used up for every attack against a soul user. If several soul users are attacked at simultaneously and not enough souls remain in the pool to protect from each attack, the devil has priority of protection. If any souls remain in the pool after this, subsequent protections occur in random order. When souls are used in an automatic protection, all members of the hell team are informed of who was attacked.

souls still exists

yup

20:01

idr when original wager got deleted/became inaccessible but it was a long while ago

Here: https://github.com/WerewolvesRevamped/Werewolves-Roles/blob/main/_info/misc/wager

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https://github.com/WerewolvesRevamped/Werewolves-Roles/blob/main/_info/misc/wager

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thats the one we need

It's fine, glitches happen. At least we know now and can consider this for the other wagers

just found it myself lol

i cannot find the other one however?

The Stoic

thats the one we need

if u can tell me how to reimplement this as an info i can do this

no im like 99% sure its in a folder that is getting pulled

20:03

I think there probably are just two things with the same name

yea

I cannot find the 2nd wager however??

neither can i????

OMG

20:08

I deleted it in #1564 https://github.com/WerewolvesRevamped/Werewolves-Roles/pull/1564

Info Fixes by McTsts · Pull Request #1564 · WerewolvesRevamped/We...

https://github.com/WerewolvesRevamped/Werewolves-Roles/pull/1564

Info Fixes by McTsts · Pull Request #1564 · WerewolvesRevamped/We...

last week

20:08

I didnt realize because I deleted an entire folder

20:08

And we never synced the bot so the bot still has it

oh my god

an $im query should fix it (if the bot allows you to run that)

i will try

it might block it

20:09

most query commands will destroy the game

it does not

but $im query wont

20:09

fair enough

is there any way i can force it?

20:09

as in

20:09

it does not allow me to

20:09

not as in it does not block it

20:09

it does block it

nope

damn

have ethan check info table and delete wager (or do it yourself)

The Stoic

have ethan check info table and delete wager (or do it yourself)

whats the command

the command is "login to the database"

hmm.

20:11

the database.

20:12

at the risk of sounding like an idiot

20:12

the... database?

thanks ts

Wager

__ (1/3)

The Wager recipient may choose one of four options: 1) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their soul in order to attack another player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the hell team's soul pool. The Wager recipient then becomes soulless. At the end of the night, the devil will attack the player chosen by the Wager recipient. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the attack is not executed. Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may change the target of the attack, or they may choose to change their chosen option to a protection. They cannot otherwise revoke their choice of option. If the Wager recipient chooses to attack a soulless player, they will sell their soul as normal, but the devil will not execute the attack. The Wager recipient is not informed of this. The Devil is, but the Wager recipient is not, informed of whether the attack fails or succeeds. 2) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their soul in order to protect a player.

__ (2/3)

Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. The Wager recipient then becomes soulless. For the rest of the night, the player chosen by the Wager recipient will be protected from any attacks which target them. If the Devil dies before the night ends, this does not negate the protection. Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may not revoke their choice of option nor their choice of target. The Wager recipient may choose to protect themself. 3) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their identity in order to see a player’s role. The devil immediately checks the chosen player's role, and the result is shown to both the recipient and the devil. Afterwards, the devil investigates the Wager recipient's role. The result of this is shown only to the devil. Both of the investigations are affected by weak and strong disguises. Checking the other player is affected by redirections, but checking the Wager recipient is not.

__ (3/3)

Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may not revoke their choice of option nor their choice of target. 4) The recipient may choose to ignore the Wager. If the Wager recipient chooses this option, they may choose another option before the end of the night if they wish to. At the end of the night phase, the recipient is removed from the Wager channel. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, but no further wager actions may be executed.

^ works but is weirdly formatted

@The Stoic what do you think of ddd's thought that you might've been sabo'd and attacked?

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^ works but is weirdly formatted

guess it cant deal with not having sections

Eagle Eye

@The Stoic what do you think of ddd's thought that you might've been sabo'd and attacked?

I believe it

21:02

@Participant will both of you be available close to phase change? (edited)

I'll try to be

I’ll be available

excellent

Bare in mind phase change is an hour earlier according to hosts, right?

21:30

So we've got like 1hr 30-ish?

WHAT

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601140716863519/1374371137160740936

21:30

I gotchu :3

I am illiterate

yeah i read that

I will wait another 30m

The Stoic

I am illiterate

Sticker

Hahaha, I'm glad I helped then else you'd have just wanted us to be here 1 hr past day

yup

@Participant please vote accordingly

Command error. You are not an owner of this CC!

I cannot add yuki

22:11

I just want to clarify that we do now have 3 public claiming journalist and I have made it clear which one I trust most

22:12

So everything else based on swurtle is questionable

22:12

However swurtle is not good at lying

You want Yuki added?

so I'm gonna believe they are the second journalist

22:12

yes

I've been promoted

22:12

It's $cc add and then Yuki's ID ye?

yup

✅ Added @Cutie to the CC!

@The Fosterer please let me know if you are here. we need you in the next 45m

The Stoic

@Participant please vote accordingly

Wait yuki seems more towny over kal?

Yeah I'm surprised too tbh

22:18

Like I thought the way Yuki handled things this game felt likely to come from non-town

The Fosterer

Wait yuki seems more towny over kal?

Yes

22:19

Im pretty sure of my read

Although if fish says his role is journo but devil wager says otherwise that’s convincing

Eagle Eye

Like I thought the way Yuki handled things this game felt likely to come from non-town

Yeah I do kinda agree

22:19

But the strat did overall help town quite a bit

We'll see how things go then. I'm not confident this will go ideally because now I'm less sure about how much I should trust the journalists here haha.

Basically we cant trust either, nor can I trust you!

I see

Yeah, I agree you can't trust me for sure haha. Internally screaming at the whole semi auto-outing good but not as planned

@The Fosterer in fact, would you be able to resign as mayor as a show of good faith?

Sure

I.. why do we want Swurtle resigned as Mayor

We can't afford the risk of having a wolf mayor later in the game

Yes. But who would we choose to be Mayor?

we will see throughout the night

You're like 1 attack off dying. We have the triple journalists thing which likely has 1 non-town.

22:24

I don't know who I would even want Mayored haha

I need to get the remaining claims throughout the night

Like I'd say myself honestly but that's bias

then I can get some solving done

The Fosterer

Sure

It was an end ability, right?

22:26

So we will see end of phase?

Yes

awesome

22:26

thank you

22:26

would be funny if we re-elect you tomorrow

22:26

we'll have to see

I mean honestly I'd want to re-elect Swurtle lmao. And if Swurtle doesn't resign I don't know how I'd feel from then

The Stoic

would be funny if we re-elect you tomorrow

Lmao

@Eagle Eye I just want to clarify you have a dubious check from a dubious person

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22:50

I do think your chances of being town are quite high

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22:50

But I think yuki's strategy has significantly contribute to town's benefit

22:50

Whereas you have not done much

22:50

So in a situation where I have several not fully trusted people I would rather go with whoever did more - yeah they might still be scum

I see

But then they deserve it more tbh

22:51

Like I think everyone here is town

22:51

But its not safe at all

22:51

Yuki has most likely blocked a pack runner claim from occuring which is pretty valuable

22:53

Also admittedly yuki does have a wager check going for them as well

22:53

I mean it is made up by fish but yeah lol

oh also fyi there's a bit more to sharl as well, but I don't wanna share his actual role yet. though pretty sure he's town as well at this point, though less likely than anyone here so dont wanna add

23:32

lets just say his strategy was nonsensical but made sense once he explained it, but I did not want to publically explain it.........

Got it

what's your journal on now?

like what role are you targetting @The Fosterer

00:01

probably should be changed back to cit at this point

Ok I’ll switch it back to cit from runner

00:01

awesome thanks

@The Fosterer why would you public claim this noowaoa

noowaoa

I was debating just saying it in here but then people got curious…

How do you still not know the single most basic piece of social deduction knowledge

@The Fosterer are you down to be mayor again

yes that would be funny lmao

So, no deaths again huh? So, either hell team was attacked, a cleric'd person was attacked or recluse was attacked?

Wouldn’t recluse just die

No because aren't wolfpack still classed as 'wolfish' for the recluse's ability?

Yup

16:43

Recluse would live

Sweet, this time I didn't mess up an interaction x3

@Participant will you be around close to phase change in case I want to switch vote?

I'll try my best to be aorund like before

this game has proven tricky to solve

*around

awesome, thanks

19:25

its an hour early again today, apparently

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To be fair I.. still don't fully trust Yuki x3 But I mean we have a non-town in the journalists. I just wish assassin would shoot into them so we can solve things tbh

19:26

Journalist choosing Journalist so we can solve which Journalist is the fake one

The Stoic

@Participant will you be around close to phase change in case I want to switch vote?

yes

At this rate I'm just going to guess we have a dead assassin. As assassin would've solved so much for us by now

Eagle Eye

Journalist choosing Journalist so we can solve which Journalist is the fake one

yeah tbh that would work

19:30

@Cutie you wanna change target?

on it

I have no mechanical impact this game but I'm trying to solve how we can solve the best haha

all thoughts and reads are always helpful to hear

19:31

people often underestimate how much of an impact they can make as a not fully confirmed role

Tbh I'm kinda surprised the hell team hasn't given me the wager because I'd be half tempted to sell my soul just to give me power and let me do an attack. The other half is me thinking we should never be giving hell extra souls

Cutie

on it

cool cant wait to get the journal

And the hell team.. does learn that I'm cit because I was the one Swurtle checked, right?

hell team might be looking for a wolf at the current point in the game, so you wouldn't get it, I think

Are we concerned about the possibility Swurtle would be a decent sabo target?

it is a possibility I think

21:32

but we gotta risk it

21:32

I'm not sure if wolves would consider the re-election since its an extremly unusual strategy

@Participant im considering switching to another target..... ddd is either gamethrowing or claiming to be gamethrowing and that whole situation is BS and BOTH variants aren't allowed strategies. Also if we end up lynching ddd if he is in fact gamethrowing the game will just be reset......... this whole situation is stupid. you will both be there at phase change, right?

I'd rather just murder ddd with how they're acting but yes I'm going to try and be around

yeah but hosts have confirmed that both their acting as gamethrowing and gamethrowing are both illegal strategies..........

21:57

so I guess we have to consider illegal strategies inplay

So we're supposed to.. choose not to execute someone who's doing an illegal strategy because we're worried about a reset?

I guess??? noowaoa

noowaoa

Plus no offence but I'm happy to reset so I'm not forever vanilla lmao

The Stoic

@Participant im considering switching to another target..... ddd is either gamethrowing or claiming to be gamethrowing and that whole situation is BS and BOTH variants aren't allowed strategies. Also if we end up lynching ddd if he is in fact gamethrowing the game will just be reset......... this whole situation is stupid. you will both be there at phase change, right?

Yes

Eagle Eye

Plus no offence but I'm happy to reset so I'm not forever vanilla lmao

And so we can just forget me Swurtle Moment ing the revealing the tt in public

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22:08

*tt info

22:09

Damn ddd is gonna get suspended again lmao

Eagle Eye

Plus no offence but I'm happy to reset so I'm not forever vanilla lmao

eh we gotta try tbh

We gotta try to kill evils, I think ddd's behaviour is non-town

Yes, ddd will need to be lynched too

22:28

But there is a better target today, I think

22:28

It will make sense once I explain it

22:28

Can you be there at phase change?

I’ll be here

22:28

Btw it’s the same time as yesterday aka in 32 mins

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yup

22:35

yeah so basically we'll give the sub a chance and then when they are unconvincing we can lynch them tomorrow

So who are we switching the lynch to?

I will tell you just in time

Oh ok

Got it

22:47

Alright sunny could end up with the journo if I die cuz they claimed cit

To be fair though I think a lot of evils.. have to claim cit due to how things have went down

Yeah I don’t trust Sunny unless somehow they end up with my journo

22:54

Uh so how close are you announcing the lynch to phase change!?

@Participant Lynch

@Fairer Kid the Devil Devil

Devil

/ Demon

Demon

Place your vote as soon as the clock ticks to 59 to avoid getting soul sniped.

Got it

K

@Participant NOW NOW NOW

Did it

Got it ^^

yeah so we're fucked, arch being devil was the only longshot path to victory we had

23:08

if wolves got the wager now they'll soulkill one of us and it will be a hell win

23:09

so fun

okay so here is what we will do: we will not be able to win, but we can maximize our score by getting a live loss over a death loss which is the next best thing. • we need to identify/find devil / convince them to come out • we can then work with the devil to lynch any wolf • we can ask devil to send wager to a townie [or not lynch - either way we can stop wolves from getting rid of devil through this method] • townie will use the wager to kill any wolf • wolves cannot kill devil as we will constantly resupply with souls • devil will win with at least a few townies remaining alive while soulless I assume there is a solid chance I will be one of the people that dies, but if we cannot win we can at least try to live while losing.

Damn

I don't think we're out yet. It's always a chance that both teams mess up, if we give hell team our souls we just lose always. The only chance at winning is us not doing such

Further to this you said that because of the possibility of wolves getting wager. Wolves hopefully don't have it, it's not over. We need to play for a win

Also I’m assuming reporter results aren’t looking good right now

I mean we also know that there's 1 evil in the journalists so it's possible that Yuki is lying and making us less.. confident than we should be?

00:59

I'm trying to play this game to win not to get more points and lose while alive

Gosh I wish hell team were giving me power but they just aren't. This sucks

i wish i could get wager again but i doubt

I think I have a plan for how we can win. But it'd require playing both wolves and hell off each other

How?

If you think you know a wolf I can talk to them and claim Recluse. If there's 2 hell team alive, we execute a hell team tomorrow and then make them give us the wagers and we can use them on our suspects or to heal ourselves

09:30

Like we need to try and dwindle the numbers of both teams.

09:30

By playing them on both sides

Eagle Eye

If you think you know a wolf I can talk to them and claim Recluse. If there's 2 hell team alive, we execute a hell team tomorrow and then make them give us the wagers and we can use them on our suspects or to heal ourselves

Hmm, you could try approaching bass, I know he's wolf bc his claim is not possible

I'll try claiming Recluse to Bass then

1

But we cannot hope to use devils wager as that's a hell win

True.. ugh.

10:16

I guess we'll have to threaten to use devil's wager.

10:16

To get wolves to work with

Starting them on 2 souls was pretty busted

10:17

Yeah we can use the threat of devil

That's our best chance at winning tbh. And hopefully TT can survive for a while jic we end up losing haha

I will take any shot we have at winning, but I'd rather have a hell win than a wolf win

10:19

So we'll have to see how it goes

I think the strategy where we make it so we have a chance to win, will make it so wolves are more likely to win than hell. But I'll take that gamble if we think it might give us a win.

10:24

I want to get a town win while town trusted. But I know it's highly risky.

10:24

If Hell once gives ability to wolves, I think wolves win this way

Eagle Eye

I'll try claiming Recluse to Bass then

Alright, I've made the CC. Will see when Bass is around

Ok Bass seems very confused

Alright, I tried doing it to Bass but very quickly Bass called me a liar and sorta feigned 'Oh no I don't mean to ruin your recluse game..'. It makes me think Bass could just be pack who'd checked me and realised I'm not recluse.

Bass gave me other candidates they were considering too. Which is interesting, since they're all kinda nothing slots, which feels like easy fodder / a distraction

Hmmm

Yeah makes sense

Nooooo Ts

12:01

Makes sense tho

Son of a..

What the fuck are we going to do for electing a guardian

Alright, so what are doing

12:02

LMAO

12:02

Same thought

We shared the same braincell

I mean I half think me taking it is good(?) it makes me a more attractive target for an attack. Plus we don't want wolves to be able to 2-for-1 and take out you. I don't trust Yuki as much as you and there's a non-town in the Journalists anyway so

‍♂️

Do we lynch sunny today?

Eagle Eye

I mean I half think me taking it is good(?) it makes me a more attractive target for an attack. Plus we don't want wolves to be able to 2-for-1 and take out you. I don't trust Yuki as much as you and there's a non-town in the Journalists anyway so

‍♂️

I was thinking that

I think if we want to go off what TS had thought, we could Guardian me and Lynch Bass?

12:04

After all, Bass was who TS most recently talked about

12:04

And my interactions weren't great

Sure let’s go off of Ts’ plan

12:05

But why bass lynch what makes him sus

12:05

I’m not against the lynch I just want some explanation for it

The Stoic

Hmm, you could try approaching bass, I know he's wolf bc his claim is not possible

Here

Got it

Bass apparently gave an impossible claim

Ah I see

And I think you're pretty trusted so if you do the @ participant ping and say the plan, hopefully people will listen

12:06

‍♂️

Well I think I’m just gonna announce you as guardian and bass for lunch now

1

We don't need to out I'm your checked cit

12:06

Just do the basics

12:06

Ye

Btw you were just fake claiming recluse to bass right?

Oh yeah, like I actually don't think I can be Recluse mechanically?

12:23

Can Recluse disguise themselves?

12:23

And.. I mean you saw I kinda didn't realise how the whole disguising thing / lack thereof happened with regards to your devil's wager

@Cutie can you give the reporter results in here?

Yeah ok I looked it up on the site, doesn't seem to mention disguising so unless you lied about your result then you know I'm not Recluse and I'm just Cit haha

@The Fosterer I had to give Bass a few lil snippets which didn't help that much just to try and see what I could draw out of em. Hence why I was discussing about my theories on Dan and whatnot there

Yeah I still have no idea what bass is supposed to be tho

Same

12:37

Like for someone who has info to share, Bass has very little info to share

12:37

And it just seems like Bass is trying to garner favour with us

12:41

Ok. So Bass is just straight up dying right

Yes

12:41

Kill him

12:41

He ain’t being any use to us

I do not believe for a second the 4th journalist claim

Me neither

Hm.. now I don't know how much I believe this claim either. It's certainly better but I think Bass even for a second thinking of lying means Bass is less towny when Bass claims to trust us both fully

‍♂️

I made a cc with ocean getting her claim cuz I might make her guardian instead

12:51

Depending on what she claims

I'd rather keep as much power as I could do here. Mostly between you and me and maybe with Ocean afterwards if we trust there

12:54

Right now I still have a.. few too many blanks

12:55

And by that I mean kinda everyone's a blank >.> But I'm presuming we're going to have like 6 cit claims or some nonsense

Light is cleric

Oh neat

12:57

I mean.. do we trust Yuki enough to keep Yuki here? x3 Because now we're sharing that and we prob should be doing that in just a duo chat haha

Yeah I do for now

Aight

12:57

I mean fmpov we have a 50/50 on Yuki if you're good, which is why I was a lil more questioning of it

Plus I don’t have the ccs to make a new one with just us

13:02

Apparently the reason why Ts wanted me to resign as mayor was to make light protect Ts which may or may not have worked

I mean there was a night of no deaths there, right? So I guess it might have been successful. Neat. I don't know how much I trust Light but it's a fine claim

The fact wolves might of attacked ts 3 nights in a row kinda insane

Now that I think about it another possibility would be Recluse for the Tattle info because Recluse is a non-threat.

13:04

Recluse is not a lycan

Yeah

Nor a killing role

13:05

Despot, Recluse, Sneaking or good. Which isn't exactly the best odds lol

Yeah…

Yay for our info being shaky at best

I mean light as guardian might not be bad cuz he can protect himself while protecting others

13:09

Assuming he’s even real

13:09

Which I need more claims to even do that with

Isn't the Cleric a once per game?

13:10

Yeah 'May once per game bless a player at night'

13:12

So that would mean Cleric couldn't protect anymore

Ah I see

I try and skim read all roles for games I join but sometimes miss bits and pieces

@Cutie can you at least explain in here first what’s happening before public claiming that your the successor of ts I thought I was

Yeah

The Fosterer

@Cutie can you at least explain in here first what’s happening before public claiming that your the successor of ts I thought I was

due to concerns of leaking info ts decided to exclude you from reciving claim list

Ok makes sense…

Cutie

due to concerns of leaking info ts decided to exclude you from reciving claim list

So I’m assuming your not sharing reporter results for the same reason)

pkr can still well be sneaking wolf

That's literally the only evil thing I can be. Plus feel free to read up with how things went with TS admitting that it was 'pretty unfakeable'

also we have like 4 unconfirmed cit claims

Also that just sounds like tattletale info helps say you're good which doesn't help when that then means you can be Recluse or Sneaking too

with you being 1

Ight if ts trusted yuki over me than you can gladly take over being town lead

Cutie

also we have like 4 unconfirmed cit claims

At least PKR is somewhat confirmed compared to the other cit claims

I'm the most confirmed of the cits and TS said that things in here were pretty unfakeable (I can't remember exact words).

pkr is most likely the real one but still

Based on what TS is saying with regards to you for the trust it just makes me think that TS received tattletale info on you which honestly.. doesn't clear you? And actually means you're technically less confirmed than me since it'd leave you with more evil possibilities

thats what the journals are for

Eagle Eye

Based on what TS is saying with regards to you for the trust it just makes me think that TS received tattletale info on you which honestly.. doesn't clear you? And actually means you're technically less confirmed than me since it'd leave you with more evil possibilities

there are other ways to be confirmed other

I'm not saying you're evil, just that I don't want to trust you over Swurtle just because of TS' thing there

Cutie

there are other ways to be confirmed other

like me not being journalist but shh dont tell anyone

Cutie

there are other ways to be confirmed other

How.. the devil's wager was the one Swurtle had. Tattletale is less clearing than devil's wager.

Cutie

like me not being journalist but shh dont tell anyone

Gosh darn it Yuki lol. But in that world I think we probably don't want to give you too much power since that can lead to you dying quickly

13:32

Like if we're not disagreeing about things, I think we keep things on the down low and not inform evil more than they need to be informed

Cutie

like me not being journalist but shh dont tell anyone

Your not journo or runner then what are you!?

1

its fine game is almost solved and all of town will be informed of the plan wait patiently till then

So Kal is probably real journo then

@The Fosterer could you mention the change that im next lead in story time please and that the targets will be likely chanhed thanks

@The Fosterer dont give ideas

sorry

17:42

hey im trying to see if he can kill me cuz that'll confirm me

17:42

i just dont wanna make it too obvious

@The Fosterer STOP BAITING

ok i'll stop

I'm trying to get Bass to work with us because realistically his best avenue to winning is just working with wolves during the day and us during night

Eagle Eye

I'm trying to get Bass to work with us because realistically his best avenue to winning is just working with wolves during the day and us during night

where is journal

18:31

???

18:31

you messed up

Oh honestly I'm just busy trying to work out what's going on. Bass is planning on voting with wolves today so I'm in panic mode. I don't know why I don't have journal. Does only 1 random person with the correct thing get the journal??

18:39

Yeah one of them gets it when several people have the same role.

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

@Cutie

... you will see

?????

18:42

I'm beyond confused rn

@Eagle Eye can you help me with all of this

22:22

i really need tldr of roles

Hi. I'm Despot who's been acting like Cit. Swurtle and Kal are Journalists. You're Tattle(?). I think Sin is Cit. Ocean is.. cleric(?). Bass is hell team apparently and is going to be working with me, I'm going to probably kill Turtle or Light tonight. Bass is working with wolves today and then will be working with me tonight because they know I'm mechanically non-wolf and have been working with town

22:27

I strong disguised myself as Cit

22:27

Swurtle checked me using devil's wager

22:27

As you can tell earlier in the convo

so you win by becoming mayor

Yes

im down to help you win

22:28

@kal

Kal ain't here

oh

This was made by Swurtle for me and Swurtle to chat. Then I added TS because TS was Runner

22:28

Then TS asked me to add your slot

22:28

You're Tattle, right?

yes

22:29

im just trying to figure remaining information okok

Yeah all good

i need a wolf out

Do you think I use the devil's wager kill on Light or Turtle or who tonight? I'll work with town

whos confirmed wolf

Eagle Eye

Do you think I use the devil's wager kill on Light or Turtle or who tonight? I'll work with town

kill light i think

Aight

this is rough

22:34

anyway

22:34

are you wolf

22:34

despot died

22:34

so im not sure what are you

@Just Mia what's the info you've gotten as repo. I needed to test you

Eagle Eye

@Just Mia what's the info you've gotten as repo. I needed to test you

if you are wolf does it make sense for me to tell you

Mia, please look to early in this convo, I'm a cit

22:35

I wanted to try and see what you claimed to have

i mean

22:36

my slot is reporter for a reason

22:36

too much info missed

The Stoic

yeah though this entire interaction is difficult to fake

From TS, a confirmed Runner

22:36

Please give me info

22:36

I need to help solve

why yuki didnt give it

22:37

despot died btw

22:37

so you arent despot

22:37

so you can be sneaking wolf

I don't know. But Yuki also wasn't giving much to Swurtle and actively thought against Swurtle despite there supposedly being info confirming

22:37

Mia, the whole 'this interacting is difficult to fake' is surrounding the sneaking wolf thing

22:37

Lol

22:37

TS was saying it's difficult for me to be sneaking

thats social aspect of the game and ts can be wrong

22:37

but why did you lie to me

22:37

that you are desp

Because your slot is less confirmed than Swurtle's was fmpov and your slot wasn't filling in Swurtle with things that there should be

whats the point of me asking you are you wolf if am i wolf

22:38

you seem to panic

22:38

why

Because you could've been Recluse or Hell fmpov and I wanted to see what was going on from a fresh slot

22:39

You seem good

22:39

That's why I wanted to point you to things earlier in the convo

22:39

Because I am good and you are good.

22:40

I am a citizen who kinda.. socially proved myself due to the whole interactions

Alive Players | Total: 11

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) (edited)

Please, I've been lacking information. And Yuki didn't even give Swurtle information despite supposedly knowing that Swurtle had to be journo

22:42

That's why me and Swurtle didn't trust your slot

bro im uncced tat you are cit with 2 cits and 2 roles which can be seen as cits

22:42

Skull

22:42

my slot is NOT qustioned here

I'm telling you how it was because Bass was claiming Tattle until outing as hell team

22:43

And I thought Tattle could just be dead

22:44

Mia, we worked well before, please trust me here

22:44

TS did, it's why TS said exactly what TS said about the interaction being difficult to fake

22:45

Bass has been arguing he's a solo Hell member and so the other hell member would be dead @Just Mia

22:45

So I'm just trying to work out the truth

who are we supposed to kill here

I'm going to use the wager to kill like.. Light tonight.

22:46

But I think Kal's being exe'd today because hell's working with wolves to force us to work with Hell during nights

whats wager

Devil's wager

22:46

I'm going to have to sell my soul to kill a suspect

kill sky tonight

Ok

it might change

22:46

i will tell you

Can you please provide me with the info anyway from your repo stuff?

no

Like it's really important so we can be informed of what Bass is doing

you arent confirmed

Mia. Bass is claiming that they're a solo hell atm

22:47

Is this a lie?

how could i know that

Because.. did the Demon / Devil die and show up in your repo info?

22:48

If not then Bass has been lying

22:48

I've thought that Dan's an Assassin the whole time

Eagle Eye

Because.. did the Demon / Devil die and show up in your repo info?

oh you mean there

22:48

no idea

22:48

i just saw dep died

.... Mia.

22:49

You have like 4 things that have died

sadly

And 2 of them are hard confirmed to be Journalist and Runner

22:49

So please lmao

22:49

I need to be aware if Hell team's more of a threat than we think they are due to them having 2 members alive

22:50

As this strongly changes how we have to play this

22:50

If there's 2 Hell alive then Hell have a stronger position than Bass is presenting

22:51

If there's only 1 then we probably win by going back and forth

hmm

Eagle Eye

Townsfolk (8) Journalist - Kal/Yuki/Swurtle Journalist - Kal/Yuki/Swurtle Citizen - PKR (Checked by Swurtle) Citizen - Cleric - Runner - TS Assassin - Tattletale - Werewolves (5) Sneaking Wolf - Psychic Wolf - Saboteur Wolf - Wolf - Recluse - Solo (2) Devil - Demon - Unaligned (1) Despot -

This is the list I had.

22:52

You can even say I had Cit there

22:52

Kal/Swurtle are the Journalists. Your slot is supposedly the Tattletale who lied about being the Runner and then backed into lying about being Journalist. Funnily enough I didn't find it easy to trust your slot

22:52

I've been lacking so much info and I'm trying to do what it takes for us to win rn

22:53

I'm having to act like a recluse to evil and Bass can even confirm I tried to pull that play. Heck, I can prove to you that I tried to pull that play

22:54

Mia, please, what's the reporter info? This determines what we need to do to win and I can prove that I've tried to trick evils by adding you to the Bass CC for example

22:54

@Just Mia

22:55

You've got the whole CC to look at how things have went here, you shouldn't be distrusting I'm cit.

3cBread

22:57

why are you panicking

22:57

im smelling fear from you

Internally screaming Because I've wanted info and Yuki didn't provide any to me or even Swurtle for a good while despite Swurtle being mechanically proven

22:57

So I want to know what the info is so we can plan

maybe

What do you mean maybe

trusting people is hard

23:01

anyway

23:01

yuki didnt give you info for a reason so

Mia trust fall me like we did for my first game

well

23:01

still i will just trust yukis decision

Also Yuki didn't give the info to Kal or Swurtle despite them being confirmed.

23:01

So you can't make it sound like Yuki's decisions all make sense

i will give info to kal then

SIGH

23:02

Like if your slot is Tattle, then mechanically Yuki knew Kal and Swurtle were good but weren't sharing things

my moto is dont trust people 2025

And both TS and Swurtle trusted me. So listen to 2 good players

23:03

Instead of just your predecessor's slot who already did questionable(TM) things

i know my slot is good....

23:04

so

23:04

um

Then please, listen to the 2 slots you know are also good (TS and Swurtle)

23:04

I want to be able to be in town trusted here so we can just solve with all the info

23:04

I'm literally needing to use a bullet tonight so the more info I have the better

23:05

Also Kal's dying anyway

23:05

Based on the execution

23:05

So it'll just be you and me again

since when is swurtle good

23:05

isnt she polarized

23:05

they know what alignment she is

Yes. Swurtle died my friend. Swurtle's the journalist. They should know Swurtle was good

23:06

Like Yuki mechanically knew both Journalists had to be good but wasn't claiming it so..

23:06

Let's just solve this using the info you have

23:07

You should have info on the flips of Dansan, MrFish, Arch, TS and Swurtle.

this game is a mess

23:08

im afking it

Mia no. We need you

23:08

Stay with me here please

nah this game is a mess

23:09

i dont even have a notes

23:09

50 possible cit roles

...

23:10

Mia what's your repo info so I have a chance at solving with you

23:10

Please you know TS was good and you know that Swurtle was good due to your reporter stuff, right? So you should be able to know I'm good since both of them were vouching for me pretty hard as I've shown

ts was wolf

Pardon me.

yes

How is the Un-CCd Runner a wolf?!

i have no clue

Mia please, full info.. now. Because if the info is that fucked, I need it

23:12

Like giving it to Kal's not going to help when Kal's being executed

town lost this

23:12

no point trying

23:13

both demonand devil are alive

23:13

no wonder yuki subbed out

Then why are you 'trying' to hide from me

23:13

Please give me everything

Just Mia

both demonand devil are alive

Knew it.

nah if you are wolf i dont want you to win

23:13

i can sabotage you lmao

~~url~~

(edited)

✅ Added @Scruffy to the CC!

nah pkr snitch bruh

I'm having it so Kal can see for themselves smh

23:23

Feel free to see that TS and Swurtle both said I'm just good

Oh zamn

I don't know whether Mia/Yuki slot is just evil and TS was wrong but the nonsense that's going on is insane

Eagle Eye

I don't know whether Mia/Yuki slot is just evil and TS was wrong but the nonsense that's going on is insane

im demon

23:26

so yes

23:26

you are correct

Feel free to start reading from near the beginning of it because TS said that things were difficult to fake.

23:26

@Scruffy

So ur claiming sneaking wolf?

NO for fuck sake

i think pkr is claiming sneaking wolf

I'm literally a citizen. The whole thing that happened was TS saying it was difficult for me to even be sneaking

23:27

Bro why am I being trolled

no

Wym no?!

;wager

Eagle Eye

Wym no?!

im demon

Is affected by guises so yh

Bro. I cannot even

23:29

I'm just a cit, yes I mechanically can be sneaking wolf.

ok this is enough proof

23:29

tbh

But that is the max. And 2 people you know to be good are saying I'm good

why does it matter what they say

Are you fucking reaction testing me

i dont need to

23:30

im smelling you are evil

I'm not though.

but you just admitted you are

I literally did not. (edited)

Eagle Eye

I'm just a cit, yes I mechanically can be sneaking wolf.

see proof

I said I am just a Cit in that

nah

23:31

false

Yeah you're just trolling me now

no

Pkr i must say your wolf gameplay is immaculate

✅ Removed @Just Mia from the CC!

I'm feeling done with what Mia's doing at this point

23:32

I'm not a wolf, Kal.

23:32

Two people who are pretty much proven to be town (Swurtle and TS) both said the interaction I had in this thread was pretty unfakeable

23:32

I'm just a citizen

23:32

I wish you were reporter so we could have reliable info because at this point I don't know how much I can trust Mia at all because Mia's doing whatever this is

23:33

Also despite Yuki knowing you and Swurtle were good, Swurtle wasn't filled in

23:34

So I genuinely cannot tell if Yuki slot (Mia) is just evil @Scruffy

23:34

Because Yuki should've been filling yall in otherwise in any world

Eagle Eye

I wish you were reporter so we could have reliable info because at this point I don't know how much I can trust Mia at all because Mia's doing whatever this is

Repo can be lying to us yes

23:34

But

23:34

We lowkey have been operating on their info for far too long

Yes, for far too long considering the fact Yuki didn't decide to give you and Swurtle info

23:35

Despite knowing that yall had to be good

This is tuff since we think the lynch may just have been a misslynch

23:35

We did get info though

23:35

If you arent bad rn many thing are wrong !!!!

Not any time recently, Yuki didn't give info to Swurtle and that's obvious when you read this chat.

23:36

Like Yuki should've known to give info to Swurtle but based on day start you know that's not what happened

23:36

So Yuki's slot has been bullshitting to someone who would be mechanically confirmed to be good from Yuki's PoV.

23:36

I am good Kal, I'm trying to solve here.

Eagle Eye

I wish you were reporter so we could have reliable info because at this point I don't know how much I can trust Mia at all because Mia's doing whatever this is

We are being held at soulpoint by hell anywa

23:37

We are rolling on the repo info being correct

So be it, we need Hell to be able to take out the wolves. I just wish that Mia wouldn't be trolling my ass

23:37

Because I know I'm just mechanically good

23:37

(Or exactly Sneaking which TS said was very unlikely which you can read up on yourself)

How are u mechnaiclay good can u give a tl;dr

Please.

23:38

Kal, I need something here. I wanted to try and get Mia to give the info so I could help solve and instead Mia decided to troll me so idk how much I can trust there.

23:39

Heck I think a very viable reason why nobody tried to stop guardian election is because there's an evil who had power. And I do not think it was Swurtle

23:39

So think about why wolves chose to give us guardian if Yuki is good. Because fmpov that's a big misplay

Scruffy

How are u mechnaiclay good can u give a tl;dr

^ miuai

It instead makes more sense if Yuki or Swurtle was evil. Which I mean based on everything Mia is doing, I'd think it's Yuki slot

Shooot

23:40

Like either we are being gaslit by hell or

23:41

Ur actually bAd But we dont have much choice in the matter odfk why would they pick you specifically

Scruffy

^ miuai

TL;DR - The whole wager thing not showing up properly in the bot made it so that upon investigating, TS realised I was just good socially from how things were going down. I reacted the way I did because I knew I was good and so didn't realise about the discrepancy by the bot at that time - a thing which TS commented upon and that's why it was very much unfakeable

Scruffy

Ur actually bAd But we dont have much choice in the matter odfk why would they pick you specifically

Because I'd been in here with Swurtle. It's the ideal frame.

23:43

It gives Yuki slot a choice to not back down and to then throw shade on you and Swurtle. Throwing shade on Swurtle then throws shade on me. So by making me the frame it works perfectly in reverse.

23:44

Throwing shade on me throws shade on Swurtle and Yuki wasn't backing down off Journalist to Swurtle and giving info despite the fact that town!Yuki always should've.

23:45

@Scruffy what are your thoughts because I am trying here.

23:45

Further to this I did plays where I tried claiming Recluse to people we suspected.

23:45

One such case was Bass

Hummm

23:46

Would sniping be

23:46

Would sniping work

I think Yuki's just.. evil in most worlds because of the treatment of Swurtle

Eagle Eye

Throwing shade on me throws shade on Swurtle and Yuki wasn't backing down off Journalist to Swurtle and giving info despite the fact that town!Yuki always should've.

I had to reread this so much

23:47

Ok shit

23:47

I guess

I'm just fucking good lmao

Fuck but what to do then

What info has Mia made up to have? Because at this point Mia's like.. likely a wolf or hell member right?

Mia is 300% hell

Then PLEASE divulge all the bullshit Mia has given you as her repo info lmao

Vote

Because I've proven myself as hard as I can

Mia for lynch

23:50

Right

23:50

Neow

Wait Mia's not an option

Well yuki

23:51

No wait

23:51

Do it as a snipe

Wait but that's like 2 votes

Is this gmae over

23:51

Can we convince

23:51

Wolves

I think I need to keep up my Recluse bluff???

23:52

And trick Light or some shit

23:53

Kal, what's Mia's fake info as a hell member?

Eagle Eye

I think I need to keep up my Recluse bluff???

Yyses

23:55

Fuck this gaMe

Oh dear lord we're cooked

Eagle Eye

Kal, what's Mia's fake info as a hell member?

Bmo info they told it to ts im trying to get her to tell memn

23:57

Arch was despot at the least

Bro... So you're saying that the info wasn't given to either person that should've been confirmed as good?!

23:57

You or Swurtle

Swurtle didnt get it?????

NO

Holy fuckrjtng shit

That's why Swurtle wasn't 'on the programme' originally with regards to Yuki

23:58

Yes. Like I think Yuki slot is outed fucking evil

23:59

Heck I'm tempted to add Bass here to town trusted at this point lmao

23:59

Because we need a miracle

Bruhhh

What the fuck was that

00:02

@Scruffy you got an explanation?

Ur bad go away

00:02

No I'm not.

00:04

Kal please read the things up

IDK I FEEL IM BETWEEN SCUM AND SCUM AND IM TRYING TO SALVAGE THE GODDAM GAME HERe

You know I'm not evil if you're reading it, I don't know what Mia's pulling right now

Scruffy

IDK I FEEL IM BETWEEN SCUM AND SCUM AND IM TRYING TO SALVAGE THE GODDAM GAME HERe

I'M TRYING TO SALVAGE IT TOO

00:05

You can tell because I am panicking trying to prove myself and show something because town's being fucking cooked

Like if i VOTE you and ur town hell instantly wins if i properly kill bass mia nukesbud and its a wolf win

Mia forced a tie because that is the best thing for Hell rn. Like Mia's just outing as non-town

00:07

Instead of listening to me Mia did whatever the fuck this is, instead of trying to give Swurtle info - Yuki didn't when Yuki should've known the truth

00:08

If Mia's town, Mia just sticks on the fucking Light execution when Light was an outed wolf.

00:08

Kal, we need to work together and idk how at this point.

Eagle Eye

If Mia's town, Mia just sticks on the fucking Light execution when Light was an outed wolf.

Mia is NOT town

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No shit sherlock.

Thats the goddamn issue this would have been remotely slightly better if

00:11

Ts didnt trust yuki for whatevet reason

Did you get the wager? Because Bass told me he would give me wager and I don't have it

Eagle Eye

Did you get the wager? Because Bass told me he would give me wager and I don't have it

00:11

THATS CRA ZY

mia told me they are wagering me

Why is Hell working with wolves

Im not wagered

00:12

00:12

Oh dear lord.

this game is coookeedddd

Ok Bass told me that apparently Mia was fucking given the wager which then makes Mia just wolf

Eagle Eye

Ok Bass told me that apparently Mia was fucking given the wager which then makes Mia just wolf

That is

00:15

What

Bro I don't fucking know anymore

Ooooh this game is cooked so cooked very cooked

It's fine. If I convince Light that I'm just Recluse maybe I can get myself protected. Of course the chances are higher that Light's just going to ignore me but I don't know what we can do anymore

Light contacted u???

00:17

Can u extract info from them??

00:17

Uhhhh

I can try. Light's not contacted me yet but I don't fucking knowwww

Woudltn bass just lie and tell u anything random of whoever got the wager

00:18

He aint gonna tell su

00:18

Im convinced mia is just demon because bass seems to wholeheartedly trust he r

Wait, can hell give hell a wager?

00:22

Actually, are there any others we think are.. just good?

00:22

Like, Sinisfuel was given Swurtle's journal, right?

Eagle Eye

Wait, can hell give hell a wager?

Noope

00:22

I thibk

And we're saying Ocean is the Cleric?

00:22

If so then I might need to add them here and we need to just solve

Eagle Eye

Like, Sinisfuel was given Swurtle's journal, right?

Yes

Because otherwise we're cooked

That confirms sinis

✅ Added @Burnt Kid to the CC!

@Burnt Kid hey so a TL;DR - I think this is town trusted. Yuki (Mia slot) has outed as non-town, Bass has outed as hell. Light outed as wolf.

00:24

We need to work things out as a group because we're in fucking danger

Ideally we snipe hell but with wolves working with hell well shit

Me and Kal don't have wager.

00:25

We need to know if you do.

00:25

And if not we need to try and work out who does

Please Sinis tell me you have it. We need some amount of control aaaaa

Eagle Eye

Please Sinis tell me you have it. We need some amount of control aaaaa

c1_myshake

Oh dear...

Alright, well, now we've dealt with that whole issue. I think Mia's Recluse, I think I was gonna be attacked but I convinced wolves of mutually assured destruction lmao

nso_bless

@Scruffy @Burnt Kid I had to reveal the plan a bit early since I'm doing Werewolves at my con now. Make sure to get town to follow suit, this is our only chance to win.

Eagle Eye

@Scruffy @Burnt Kid I had to reveal the plan a bit early since I'm doing Werewolves at my con now. Make sure to get town to follow suit, this is our only chance to win.

Uouugh

23:18

Listen

23:18

I got sent

23:18

A wall of text

23:18

If we lynch

23:18

Bass

23:19

Hmm

23:19

There is a decent chance of there being 5 wolves

23:19

4 town

23:19

2 hell

23:19

If we lynch bass

23:19

1 hell

23:19

And if

23:19

We get kileld

23:20

Its game over

23:20

Eolves just win

23:20

@Eagle Eye

23:20

Pls wakebup......

No we're fine. We have to kill Bass.

23:56

If they decide to kill us they choose to lose to work.

23:56

So we just have faith. Do not waver @Scruffy

Waht

Eagle Eye

If they decide to kill us they choose to lose to work.

No theres a very real risk of there being packless Please do not listen in to whatever bullshit light is filling your brain with

True. I should just shut light out but I guess at least now wolves somewhat like me?

Eagle Eye

True. I should just shut light out but I guess at least now wolves somewhat like me?

I think we should just Completely throw to devil I dont think theres an out of this

Why give it to the players who've threatened us?

02:03

Light at least was cooperative with us.

Like in all seriousness town's conceding to Hell who's just been super aggressive and threatened us, really? If anything we need to force Hell to work with us. Right now Hell is in such a good position. A single soul WILL give them the win

Why did ligjt cc me

11:54

Im gonna sob

Eagle Eye

Light at least was cooperative with us.

HES A SNAKEEE

Eagle Eye

Like in all seriousness town's conceding to Hell who's just been super aggressive and threatened us, really? If anything we need to force Hell to work with us. Right now Hell is in such a good position. A single soul WILL give them the win

A solo win is generally better than wolf wni imho

I'm going to try to play to a wincondition. Us eliminating one of Hell would have kept us in this more than we are now. (edited)

11:57

Like today we have to just hard side wolves and hope that they'll help us

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Eagle Eye

I'm going to try to play to a wincondition. Us eliminating one of Hell would have kept us in this more than we are now. (edited)

Like seriously can we win

11:57

With sniv turtle both being sus as fuck

Yes. I think we could have and now things are worse than they would have been.

Alive Players | Total: 9

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

We had to play both sides but now we've helped Hell more than we should have. We needed to keep things more balanced.

Gguhhhhhhhhh

Its not over yet. We need to get rid of a hell tonight because Wolves have to work with us.

11:58

*today

11:58

Idk for me it is night time when we have day times lmao

Eagle Eye

Its not over yet. We need to get rid of a hell tonight because Wolves have to work with us.

We pray

Eagle Eye

We had to play both sides but now we've helped Hell more than we should have. We needed to keep things more balanced.

But what else was do

11:59

I think there was wolf majority by a hair so we NEEDED to get rid of a wolf

12:00

I cast kaliblast.

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