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Dead & Spectators

This channel is for dead participants and spectators. A complete role list can be found at the top of this channel.

12:04

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Players | Total: 16

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yes

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Citizen

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- @Cutie (Citizen) yes

yes

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Devil

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‍⬛ - @Bird Chaser (Devil) yes

yes

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SaboteurWolf

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- @The Bright Kid (Saboteur Wolf) yes

yes

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Cleric

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- @Serena (Cleric) yes

yes

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Journalist

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thight

- @The Fosterer (Journalist) yes

yes

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Assassin

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- @Mr. Dappy (Assassin) yes

yes

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Runner

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️ - @The Stoic (Runner) yes

yes

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SneakingWolf

| ✨ - @Eagle Eye (Sneaking Wolf) yes

yes

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Demon

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- @Fair Kid (Demon) yes

yes

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Journalist

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yeen

- @Scruffy (Journalist) yes

yes

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Citizen

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deadgamemaster

- @Daredevil (Citizen) yes

yes

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PsychicWolf

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️ - @Young'un (Psychic Wolf) yes

yes

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- @Worrywart (Tattletale) yes

yes

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Despot

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- @Shybie (Despot) yes

yes

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Recluse

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- @Smart Alec (Recluse) yes

yes

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Wolf

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- @Singleton (Wolf) (edited)

Mentors | Total: 3 thight

thight

- thekremblin (@Artsy Kid) for swurtle (@The Fosterer)

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) for ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child) for _singleton (@Singleton) (edited)

The Ferryman pinned a message to this channel. 18-5-2025 14:03

Oh no bass is the devil

Lmao - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601273315590184/1373669895849639997

16:34

The bear skin pack is superior

I feel like both stein and bass have scum reads when they are scum not sure how well the underworld team will do! Let’s see

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Yayyy

16:58

Lmao special reminder for bass - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601208115134535/1373602765892354210🤭

16:59

Spectating is so fun it’s like watching a social experiment watching the little lab rats run around

Oh no how did Swurtle check pkr for wager QwQ

does swurtle not realise theres disguises in play??

Underworld is actually so fun wtf

07:07

They have so many abilities

07:09

Omg assassin getting killed night 1

07:09

Cooked

Town is cooked already

NOOOOO

12:27

That was my first tk game I was excited

QwQ

I think light organizes the wolf pack very well

Underworld team is so strong

00:45

This is so funny - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601273315590184/1374144668899610666

00:46

Weirdly quiet game for some people

00:48

It’s kinda weird I’m just talking to myself

I’m too sad I got random rolled

00:57

It is a very quiet game for some reason, lots of warnings went out it seems

00:58

Pkr doing a good job tho

Yeee

01:27

I’m sorry that you died

01:27

It’s pretty sad

oh interesting

07:52

devil calling for their recipient to say something to get wagered again

07:52

i dont think ive seen that happen before

07:52

cant trust a recluse tho lmao

lol I don’t even know what bass is saying my English isn’t that good

I don’t know what he’s saying and English is the only language I know

lol

16:15

Old English is pretty much a completely different language to modern English

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374401415643926589/1374401843110871110 checkmate

Damn caught

17:12

Pkr still in tt so let’s see how this goes

I’m not following

17:41

Oh I see

17:43

Pkr is confirmed scum since when

Mr. Dappy

Pkr still in tt so let’s see how this goes

That did not age well

Lmao

Ts is good at this lol not surprised

Wolves thinking ts is hell team despite getting the run away message

Despot is so difficult

20:34

I feel pretty lost I don’t think I’ve been keeping up

20:36

Just realized that arch subbed in for stein

Noo - https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374382701032771635/1374463013209243820

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374382701032771635/1374480341242220696

22:24

Ts is too good at this game

@<277156693765390337> yeah so like i was playing DBD so i was too lazy to think but immediately after saying yuki was journo i knew i was cooked because yuki plays funny and i knew no way theyre really journo and i was right LOL

23:08

i also didnt have much of a reason to lie i just did it cause i was multitasking and not paying enough attention

Jays new name is realsad

realsad

its true

23:08

chimi its funny cause i was in vc with jay and said "yeah so my prediction for today is that yuki isnt journalist and TS announces my lynch today"

23:08

Smart Alec

chimi its funny cause i was in vc with jay and said "yeah so my prediction for today is that yuki isnt journalist and TS announces my lynch today"

@The Ferryman luffy this happened earlier

23:11

its so funny

23:11

i predicted exactly how i died

maybe youre a real life clairvoyant fox

i mean i knew i was playing dumb

23:11

i shouldve paid more attention but i was GAMING

eh its ok, if it wasnt you then itd probably be sky

23:11

which would be worse cuz they are psychic wolf

yeah

23:12

i get upset with myself in wolves cause i always do dumb stuff while multitasking then immediately realize why it was dumb

23:12

in this case lying for no real reason then realizing "wait no way is yuki actually journalist duh"

You probably shouldn't have even said you got the wager

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601280018092102/1374493364266864730 it may have been a trap but i kinda set the trap myself

The Ferryman

You probably shouldn't have even said you got the wager

that was also done while multitasking

23:13

i am very susceptible to autopiloting in this game ngl

23:14

i think i can play well if im trying but i often am like "ugh i dont wanna close <other game>" and then do stupid stuff

Probably got lazy from being wolf 5 times in a row

23:15

A nice town game might be a good reset

this was actually my 5th i miscounted

23:15

4th*

23:17

BUT funnily enough even before that i had a ton of scum games and games where i was town but kinda IA so i spent more time on scum games

23:18

it isnt true but i FEEL like i havent been town in months

23:18

well i mean technically its been 2 months since i was town but it feels like longer i mean

Chimi

Jays new name is realsad

realsad

it's a user id

Smart Alec

chimi its funny cause i was in vc with jay and said "yeah so my prediction for today is that yuki isnt journalist and TS announces my lynch today"

Oh no

you know you were doomed before your fate was announced

23:30

I know but I kept thinking my phone is being weird and not rendering your name

@Vera

23:39

omg its vera

What lmao

23:46

I thought this was jays id this whole time

23:50

bass is cooked

The fact ddd is citizen but refusing to claim

He actually public claimed

00:21

But i guess ts doesn't know that's his real claim

00:21

Or forgot

Ngl might have to mark ddd as gamethrowing if this keeps up

01:02

Idk how big of a suspension that would be

Wolf claims: Fish - cit Turtle - cit Pkr - cit Light - cleric Sky - scum

The Ferryman

Idk how big of a suspension that would be

well he's just got off one so massive probably

The Ferryman

Wolf claims: Fish - cit Turtle - cit Pkr - cit Light - cleric Sky - scum

ok so for the record this isnt my fault i am free of sin

01:45

how did that even happen

01:45

why would 2 pack claim cit and light claim cleric

01:45

i feel like cit makes the most sense for recluse in this list too i thought it was obvious i would claim it

01:46

also wdym sky scum (i havent read any chats)

Ts says they claim scum

i definitely fumbled but tbh i feel like pack fumbled more with those claims

Yes why would two pack members claim cit

02:07

Ddd throwing again realsad

realsad

Technically sky did too

Oh no

02:07

That’s not good

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374510334663983105/1374547325191454793

oh he is straight up throwing

Why ddd why

<277156693765390337>

oh he is straight up throwing

yeah but you cant really call him out yet cause itd be host interference methinks

02:48

(thought process of technically TS could be scum and if you call him out it indicates otherwise)

yea

02:49

maybe he can salvage it but rn its looking like a game throw rating

Smart Alec

yeah but you cant really call him out yet cause itd be host interference methinks

yeah fs

Did he actually think Ts is scum

and can't sub him out bc that would confirm he's town to ts

i mean tbf if he genuinely believed TS could be scum itd be fine. but he is just withholding a claim that he himself has commented on already being public in his CC

Chimi

Did he actually think Ts is scum

nope

Yea he’s refusing to claim because he publicly claimed

he's acknowledged that the counterclaims have retracted and that ts is the only real claimer

Hmm so whyyyyy omgggg

Chimi

Yea he’s refusing to claim because he publicly claimed

yea i think thats what hes doing

The Ferryman

maybe he can salvage it but rn its looking like a game throw rating

the problem is that this would put pkr in trusted

in his weird logic

which possibly fucks the game

Yea exactly

<277156693765390337>

he's acknowledged that the counterclaims have retracted and that ts is the only real claimer

i still think if even knowing that he believed TS were possibly scum (such as a devil kill N1) itd be fine

Smart Alec

i still think if even knowing that he believed TS were possibly scum (such as a devil kill N1) itd be fine

yea no i do agree

02:51

but he doesn't think ts can be possibly scum really

ok cool yeah im glad we are on the same page i dislike when people think something is throwing when its just being wrong

02:51

yup

i mean in this case i think its throwing

02:51

lol

yea lol

realsad

02:51

This could lead to a town loss please ddd

02:52

Idk I don’t really have a stake in the game but I’m a forever townie

im fairly sure hes just playing ts because he publicly claimed, i somewhat understand his brain at this point

flashback to me getting adminhelp PMs telling me to ban someone for something thats just the person being new to a game

you did that?

Nooo

of course not

That’s wild

ive gotten PMs reporting people for stuff but then im like "dude theyre just bad" LOL

02:53

that reminds me i need to go back to SS13 i havent been active in months and im an admin there

Smart Alec

omg its vera

i didn't even know

<277156693765390337>

and can't sub him out bc that would confirm he's town to ts

thats meta lol

06:53

basing anything off the fact that a player does/doesnt get subbed out should be considered as meta as substitution isnt game related

ts and yuki are so good this game

07:13

yuki's ctc retract strat was game saving tbh

Vera

thats meta lol

well obviously, I'm not stupid, but it wouldn't be conscious meta and I'm sure ts wouldn't use it - but it would unavoidably be in the back of his mind

well yea

08:55

so if he doesnt use it, then its fine

08:55

he might not even realise it, we can't know

he'd realise it

im genuinely having a hard time understanding how substituting someone out would cause ts to believe he's gamethrowing tho

09:06

i don't see how it would confirm anything

09:06

is it bc ddd would never sub out himself?

When we're substituting out ddd, it's always cause he's not playing properly or just being super annoying for hosts to deal with

11:10

Even if it is meta, it's not too big of a jump to assume that he's gamethrowing and withholding information on purpose

it is meta

I'm aware

i understand the idea of not subbing him out because of that

Sorry, poor word choice

nono

Despite being meta, it's not too big of a jump (edited)

i type my sentences seperately so i was starting a sentence

11:11

with "it is meta"

11:12

wasnt a comment on what you said lol

Oh

11:12

Cool

its meta, i understand that there will be suspicions that ddd might have been gamethrowing if he gets subbed out

11:13

but it cant be taken into account by the players

11:13

even if its in the backs of their minds

11:13

so i dont see exactly why substitution isnt just possible in this case

11:14

now if you were to give him the suspended role immediately after then yes, i understand

11:14

but that's genuinely all i can think of?

Like, I'm trying to weigh whether to substitute ddd or not

11:21

Wolves have really managed to mess up somewhere with their claims and random rolling this late into the game just shows that they're not playing well

Did something break? https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601208115134535/1374681508081565768

no

Why did devil check result in two runners

despot has a disguise

11:39

demon has a disguise

11:39

disguised despot checked disguised demon

Oh buh

11:39

Yeah

11:39

I have disguises noted down

11:40

Need to update players in the list

swurtle wtf

13:15

theres literally confirmed town and you're just gonna reveal info

13:16

town trusted isnt telling you shit for a very good reason

13:16

good precaution from ts wow

The wolves attacked bass?

14:34

Now they should know bass is hell team

14:34

Hell isn’t doing too great at all

Yeah wolves attacked bass

Ok wolves know bass is hell now

17:29

;underworld

17:29

Blah

17:29

They are not underworld

17:29

;he’ll

17:30

Hell only has 2 souls

17:31

1 soul now

17:31

Why sabo bass?

17:31

At this point if bass is recluse he would’ve known he was attacked by sky

17:33

Attack is a power or no? (edited)

17:33

It is it is

i love how no-one ever remembers that ttl is only affected by strong disguises

Sticker

sup

20:09

who's being mentored? i wanna read those convos lol (edited)

Swurtle

20:11

Journalist (swurtle), #tattletale (amethyst) and #wolf (singleton -> turtle)

MatMeistress

who's being mentored? i wanna read those convos lol (edited)

Those three

Vera

but it cant be taken into account by the players

we cant control peoples' minds like we're the thought police, if i see the entire role list for a split second and know every role as a player but cant legally use it rules wise, im not able to men in black mind wipe myself into going "ah yes this isnt a wolf hmm let me find the wolves" when i literally already know everything (even though i "cant" use it) (edited)

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20:34

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20:34

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lmao

Smart Alec

we cant control peoples' minds like we're the thought police, if i see the entire role list for a split second and know every role as a player but cant legally use it rules wise, im not able to men in black mind wipe myself into going "ah yes this isnt a wolf hmm let me find the wolves" when i literally already know everything (even though i "cant" use it) (edited)

i mean sure with the entire role list its a different story

i mean, i think the entire role list is just a much more severe version of the same situation

20:38

i would say it applies to lower stuff too

i think a player subbing out is a different situation

20:39

but maybe youre right

20:39

like i said, i genuinely am clueless in this situation

obviously its different i just think its the same idea where we dont want to give them any info even if they cant use it cause if they do figure it out they wont be able to avoid using it because brains. and yeah fair enough lol im just sharing my piece

The Messenger

Journalist (swurtle), #tattletale (amethyst) and #wolf (singleton -> turtle)

is swurtle on permanent mentee duty

yes

Aleeeeeeeeex

is swurtle on permanent mentee duty

yup

Aleeeeeeeeex

is swurtle on permanent mentee duty

i have a new suggestion for that actually

21:54

i think we should reverse the situation, make her the "mentor" (cant talk anywhere except sc) and have an experienced player guide her through what they do in situations

we can try that

22:06

bc the mentee thing is obviously not working out

yeah

22:06

like idk what other choice we have

Why was I force subbed???

We've been talking about force subbing you for the whole day ddd

22:41

I only did it now cause I was busy doing other stuff and got pinged multiple times to do it

I legitimately did not believe he was runner since when is making a mistake like that punishable

I would argue a point but I can't phrase it nearly as succinctly as the others

Daredevil

I legitimately did not believe he was runner since when is making a mistake like that punishable

If you want to read, the messages start here https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601167967387763/1374548811094954054

It just looks like you guys thought I did believe TS and was just trolling bruh

22:47

When have I ever legitimately trusted someone and withheld info???

Yes we genuinely thought you were trolling cause you have a track record!!

Stereotyped me

22:54

If anything blame the two people that also counterclaimed the runner then uncounterclaimed and somehow trusted ts after

22:54

That whole situation made it even more sus to me

Even if you did think he was fake, you didn't do anything about it

Seemed like two scum working with a third scum they did not know

Or answer his very legitimate questions in the cc

22:55

Just said dramatic

Because I thought they were scum lmao why would I bother talking with him

Oh

i was only demon lol

23:53

But ok

Well i was spot on about light/turtle being wolf

00:01

Hopefully they wager cuz wolves already fail attack once

00:01

00:01

I was thinking of sitting the poll since i was hell team but i didnt bother cuz i was only demon

00:04

On hindsight i shouldve just claimed despot LOL

00:05

i forgot it had a strong disguise (edited)

Not your fault

00:05

It wasn't your disguise

No but if i had claimed despot wouldnt it have saved my ass

00:07

Why did town think hell is winning, we lost one soul and i think they can figure that out lol

Fairer Kid

Why did town think hell is winning, we lost one soul and i think they can figure that out lol

They thought wolves hit cleric or something

Oh

00:09

lol

00:11

They should kill TS on pack poll and Yuki on devil wager it will be funny to only have swurtle as town elected (edited)

00:14

The duality of man

00:14

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374523773859922041/1374856222909403216

00:14

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601419910971433/1374859066869944474

Lmao why did wolves sabotage me over other people

Bass stopped speaking in old English

Lol

The Ferryman

Even if you did think he was fake, you didn't do anything about it

thats dumb to say because he could just think he is not confirmed and its fair

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Lol wolves think recluse is alive

Basscy oversharing info

05:19

Youre not getting any customers this way boy

05:24

I dont know which is worse, bas not paying attention or him oversharing info

05:25

I shouldve told him more but i think he wont listen lol

Arch did you think the psychic wolf moment was funny

Which one

05:27

Checking swurtle?

05:27

I dont know why they dont think recluse is dead

05:27

They never mentioned fish being possibility

Fairer Kid

Which one

Checking luffy

LMAO

05:29

Wasnt it typo

Yea

Why the hell are they killing bas with wager, a KNOWN devil?

05:38

Get town, stupid wolfs

05:38

@The Ferryman can u say hi back in #wolfpack

05:39

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601388411490375/1374954393652432969

I don't usually do ghost messages

Damn ok

05:40

Would asking ghost be appropriate since its his name

05:43

So uh

05:43

What did ddd do that is considered gamethrowing? I ddint pay attention to him

Read down from here

05:44

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374510334663983105/1374510340733141154

Oh

05:46

Someone can subconscious meta it by saying "oh ddd might be town cuz hes considered gamethrowing doing this silent strat"

05:46

But

05:47

They wont say it aloud that theyre meta-ing

If ts dies who will succeed him

Damn i wish wolves change the wager target to town

09:06

Town would have panicked (edited)

hell will be at 2 souls then right?

09:12

so its still dangerous for town

Alive Players | Total: 13

- yuki_not_cutie (@Cutie)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) thight

thight

- swurtle (@The Fosterer)

️ - mctsts (@The Stoic) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child) (edited)

Yeah i guess

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1375030832858660877/1375034336490815488

10:56

Sticker

Id cut him some slack, iirc he mentions he's dyslexic

great game @The Stoic

Really good game

Does pkr think I ever trusted him?

12:21

Surprise yourself pkr

12:22

Everything I said was specifically constructed

12:22

I hope town works it out

12:23

Couldn't say pkr is scum because it's meta unfortunately

12:25

Single death tonight was the only path to victory

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I hope they can make it workout without me alive

Fairer Kid

Why did town think hell is winning, we lost one soul and i think they can figure that out lol

We didn't we were thinking wolves are winning

12:30

By getting wager

12:30

Thus eliminate wager to beat wolves

meh im sad that i got subbed in late and i cant have changed my disguise

12:35

and hell was super unlucky cuz wolves rando killed on night TWO on bas

12:35

or was it 3

so my final assumptions for every single person was right (edited)

12:35

i am happy

12:35

no surprises

why are wolves sabbing known hell team smh

only shame is I couldn't say anything absolute about pkr as my opinion was too much influenced by meta reasoning

12:40

but if they lynch bass and sky quiet first as I have said that still works out

well i hope bas soulkills some town in the process

i hope the actual tt gets online to prevent the pkr guardian

12:53

rooting for town here

The smart move for tt is to do nothing

12:54

And hope bass soul kills Swurtle and pkr

hm fair

12:54

killing pkr would get tt back into action

soul kill town mayor?

12:54

and let the despot win i asume

that would work out yea, if tt can get a new guardian in time thatd be ideal

12:55

but this really depends on bass soulkilling

Yeah

12:55

I think it's a probably a loss

12:55

But this is not on us

12:56

We did much better than anyone should really expect

12:56

Tt would be wise to do nothing to not reveal themselves for now

12:57

This is the lynch my plan called for

12:57

But they probably will reveal

this is the funniest outcome

13:25

full on chaos

Chaos

I wish I didn’t die n1 this game would’ve been so good

14:42

Ts ur so good lol

@The Stoic does this recent strat change your opinion on cleric?

Cleric is cool it’s not just glorified citizen

Hell doesn’t lose a soul when attacked?

17:19

Oh I guess they got one from light?

tt idling is brutal

The Ferryman

@The Stoic does this recent strat change your opinion on cleric?

what is my opinion on cleric?

17:27

I like cleric

17:27

I forced you to make cleric this way

17:27

And I think this game proves that is much more interesting to work this way than to just be a free protect

Mr. Dappy

I wish I didn’t die n1 this game would’ve been so good

this would have been a great win if you had not died

17:28

your ctc barely tried to be believable

17:28

but ultimately its on hosts, demon is so extremly unnecessary in the list I dont know what they were thinking

17:29

also so in the end ddd was just straight up not claiming cit to me just to annoy me

17:29

fun

17:29

good to know

The Stoic

tt idling is brutal

not helped by a basically inactive mentor too

if we lose this which is decently likely it will be my best losing game ever

17:31

i think bass's soul kills will decide the game, if he hits 2 townies we lose, if he hits a wolf and a townie we are probably in a better position than before

17:32

i soooo hope that bass will kill swurtle and pkr

17:32

eliminating the most problematic scum and town

17:32

If only ddd had not gamethrown we could've identified the citizens correctly, maybe and this would be a much more likely win

17:33

or well identify correctly without meta

17:33

because there wasn't really any question anymore last night

we'd usually reset for cases of gamethrowing obviously but hosts insisted on not doing so

its fine

i imagine this will probably be half weighted or smth

tbh the chances are pkr would have been more convincing than sin even if sin was playing all along

kind of a shame for this to be the season ending game tho

The Stoic

tbh the chances are pkr would have been more convincing than sin even if sin was playing all along

probably

17:34

pkr was good this game

I knew ddd had to be citizen because I know ddd

17:34

and thus I knew pkr had to be scum

definitely too pushy D1ish but got himself sorted out

yup he was a bit suspicious by not bringing up potential concerns on how he could actually NOT be citizen

17:35

which a real citizen should do

17:35

but he tried the most to do anything

17:35

even turtle has not done much of significance

okay solution: we make this offseason and host a proper end of season game

17:37

id suggest a slightly counting off-season in that case

I'd be down, I'll play again

like a 0.5

Vera

okay solution: we make this offseason and host a proper end of season game

i like this idea

17:37

i wanted an os before the last season game anyway lol

unfortunately waiting for next week is probably too long between games so i cant play or host

i def cant do either

i wouldve loved to play again for once

i realized playing while working isn't too bad

17:38

im home early enough for the most active part of the day

17:38

I barely checked my phone outside of lunch break and it was fine

Vera

unfortunately waiting for next week is probably too long between games so i cant play or host

well this game still has to finish

17:39

which could take another two days

or four

17:39

I think the option where town wins takes like another 4 days

17:40

im happy my lying about absolute random things really paid of this time

17:40

I always enjoy lying about the mundane things that dont matter to see if I get anything out of it

<277156693765390337>

well this game still has to finish

i can only possibly play or host starting friday

And it really really paid of this time

next week friday that is

we'll see when this finishes ig

Not getting a counterclaim to Journalist in this setup is genuinely wild

yeah lmao

wolves messed up their claiming i think

17:41

tbh

they had 3 public journalist claims tbh

17:41

like I can see why they didnt ctc it

its like that one time nobody fakeclaimed cit and all cits were immediately confirmed

The Stoic

they had 3 public journalist claims tbh

it was two for a very long time

yeah but they didnt necessarily have to pick claims until claim collection

i feel like with the meta being what it is rn they should probably have covered their bases

swurtle baiting for a soulkill here would be ideal

guys she actually thought critically today it was a miracle

17:44

she didn't trust yuki for a bit bc she was pressing for info too hard

krem was going hard on the mentoring today

tt didnt realize bass was devil?

17:55

what

17:55

I even put him as devil on the role list

17:55

I only didnt put pkr/sin/turtle because I couldn't separate meta reasoning from ingame reasoning

YES BASS FELL FOR THE BAIT

are you stupid?

17:56

okay we were so close to a chance of recovering

a cit is now confirmed tho through my journal

17:57

i didnt know how else i would get confirmed

well you just lost us the game

17:58

unless bass kills sky too which would be extremly stupid to do

i thought with journo you want to die to get yourself confirmed and get the journal passed on

you want to die over power roles

17:58

you do not want to die over wolves

What happened

jesus christ

Did town lose

yup

Bass soul killed?

swurtle asked to be killed for literally no reason

17:59

yup

swurtle begged him to soul kill

The Stoic

well you just lost us the game

the plan overall was not swurtle's as far as i can tell

So hmm

Alive Players | Total: 11

- yuki_not_cutie (@Cutie)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child) (edited)

you can't really blame her for a plan other tt confirmed with her

what?

Wolf and town are tied? (edited)

ah okay nvm

they asked swurtle to stop

yeah i just checked

they literally asked her to not do this

Rough

which is weird bc their plan relied on bass soulkilling??

18:00

i think??

18:00

they were gonna swap back to him

Hmm

they were hoping they soul kill sky to proof themself

18:01

which would've been a game winning move

Oh jeez

18:01

Ok I guess it’s over

if bass uses last soul on a wolf it's still fine for town

18:02

and sharl is siding with them so

<277156693765390337>

if bass uses last soul on a wolf it's still fine for town

why would they?

They aren’t lynching bass then or is bass just acting out

they need leverage

Chimi

They aren’t lynching bass then or is bass just acting out

bass killed swurtle only because swurtle begged

The Stoic

why would they?

well i'm clearly not saying they would

Whyyyy

uh

18:03

what

kal is also just as brain dead

tt is nothing without you apparently

no yuki is competent

so they told swurtle to stop and swurtle went on?

18:04

or did she stop

yuki told swurtle to stop

18:04

swurtle went even harder on the strat

thats gamethrowing

kal was joking clearly but it was still extremly brain dead

my impression was yuki only told swurtle to stop after it was too late

18:05

but it's hard keeping track over multiple ccs

no it was way in advance

The Stoic

kal was joking clearly but it was still extremly brain dead

okay i let "stupid" slide but can we not use "brain dead" please

10m or so before they first pinged

so keeping swurtle out of tt is just as bad as keeping her in tt

18:06

she either spills or recklessly goes off on her own

18:06

eg following pkr without doubt until krem yelled at her and just going full haywire without discussing properly with tt

18:07

but hey at least sin got confirmed

What can town do from here?

So ddd gamethrowing made you town read him?

yes

kal trolling is bad

18:08

wtf is going on

Chimi

What can town do from here?

if they're smart about this, they can use bass to get into a better position

18:08

i believe they will know most/all scum after sin confirms himself

I think they have to get wager and soul kill tonight

Prob need to start giving up souls to kill

Alive Players | Total: 11

- yuki_not_cutie (@Cutie)

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- ineffable.amethyst (@Worrywart)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child) (edited)

if yuki drips bass the right amount of info she can probably dissuade him from kingmaking

18:09

he isn't very close to a win

Why is tt in shambles

yuki, ocean, sin, kal, amethyst vs light, turtle, pkr, sky vs basscy + sharl (edited)

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Need to lynch light + soul kill

they still cant wager kill tbh

18:11

cause that gives hell a win

18:11

so its the live lose scenario

Huh why

soulless

Oh cuz you can’t get rid of hell?

if bass has 2 souls he can threaten any team a loss at any time

18:12

so neither team can get rid of hell

I guess maybe sniping

only one person is soulless rn surely? just light?

He has 1 soul now right?

18:12

Just light

if wolves attack him, he can kill a single wolf and town wins

18:12

if town lynches him, he can kill a single town and wolves win

18:12

so town does have to snipe lynch him today

insane situation hes put himself in

Loool

"devil is weak" look how its going now bass

Wait so lynch counts as 1 attack?

Ts do you think ddd should get a suspension (i assume yes), and for how long

The Ferryman

Ts do you think ddd should get a suspension (i assume yes), and for how long

this is a postgame matter

Or can you get rid of devil just through lynch

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1375051427738685502/1375144146594955355 strongest role by far in the game

and should NOT be discussed in this channel

yea

The Ferryman

Ts do you think ddd should get a suspension (i assume yes), and for how long

this is postgame and should be discussed in gm channels

Mb then (edited)

cmon luffy basic stuff

Smh Luffy

swurtle you have nothing to say here

18:14

lol

Not looking great for town

18:14

Wait so does lynch kill devil ? No matter how many soul?

yes

Devil is so complicated

18:14

Ok ok

lynch kills devil yea

Vera

swurtle you have nothing to say here

what she did was frustrating, especially for ts, but i think this is a bit excessive especially since you weren't playing

Snipe lynch bass

thats why we snipe lynched arch

I guess

swurtle absolutely fucked up and ts being frustrated at that is extremely understandable

18:15

but let's try to keep it friendly

<277156693765390337>

what she did was frustrating, especially for ts, but i think this is a bit excessive especially since you weren't playing

it was more of a lighthearted comment meaning "he made a mistake but look at your mistake", not meant as a direct "you did it worse and you should shut up"

well what kal did is worse

it was a light jab

swurtle used bad logic and ignored tt

Vera

it was more of a lighthearted comment meaning "he made a mistake but look at your mistake", not meant as a direct "you did it worse and you should shut up"

ah fair enough, i dont think it came across very well

kal just straight trolled town to a loss from a position that was a likely win if the sky kill would've gone through

my apologies

all good lol

at least swurtle had good intentions

swurtle is always trying very hard

this was absolutely the worst outcome for this phase id say

18:17

which makes it infinitely funnier imo

Yeah I just didn’t realize why me being in moments was bad

YOO SIN

Let’s go sunny

What did kal do? I was gone all day till now

Wolves are sniping?

The Ferryman

What did kal do? I was gone all day till now

told devil to kill swurtle

ok why is kal gamethrowing

he isnt

19:28

he just wasn't being very smart

19:28

he didnt expect anything to come from it

The Ferryman

I don't usually do ghost messages

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Someone can subconscious meta it by saying "oh ddd might be town cuz hes considered gamethrowing doing this silent strat"

i said this multiple times and was against subbing out ddd

it was a complex situation

20:33

and it wasn't the subbing out that got ddd meta'd

20:33

it was the gamethrowing

20:33

leaving him and subbing him out would both inevitably lead to meta in that situation

20:34

i suggested resetting to hosts but they were very against it

This game was doomed the moment the pkr check happened

it really wasnt

20:35

it was doomed the moment ddd gamethrew

I mean if we didn't sub him, it would be behavioral meta, which i don't think is as bad as substitution meta?

a) meta is meta. it's not the type of meta that matters (usually), it's the extent to which it affects the game b) if you didn't sub him there would be a gamethrower still ingame

What’s town planning to do

20:39

I don’t seem to understand

I dont feel like "i know ddd is town because he is gamethrowing" is preferable over "i know ddd is town because he got removed due to gamethrowing" (edited)

20:41

both should be invalid

Artsy Kid

This game was doomed the moment the pkr check happened

im so sorry...

The Stoic

I dont feel like "i know ddd is town because he is gamethrowing" is preferable over "i know ddd is town because he got removed due to gamethrowing" (edited)

how do you know he is town cause of gamethrowing though im confused

21:02

like what indicates throwing > scum

he was town throwing not scum throwing

yeah but how did you know he is town throwing

21:02

and not just scum

sheer skill and talent

so real

ive seen ddd before (edited)

btw TS i literally said to jay shortly before my demise "my prediction for today is that yuki isnt journalist and TS announces my lynch today" lmao

makes sense

i sent the journalist thing while playing DBD

i figured thats what you figured since you didnt put up a fight at all

and then went "wait why the fuck did i do that"

21:04

and couldnt think of literally any out

there is none

yeah

21:04

lol

21:04

i thought of going "oh wait i meant KAL sorry their emotes are similar haha" but there is just NO shot

(edited)

21:05

i didnt even have to lie there necessarily i just did it cause i was on scum autopilot

21:05

then literally immediately regretted it

oh yeah what did you do with wager?

i investigated ocean as cleric

21:06

lol

21:07

idk why i thought ocean was likely wolf

understandable

also as a side note if wolf wins with this claims list i will be flabbergasted

they were throwing our "your suspicious" based on nothing

Smart Alec

also as a side note if wolf wins with this claims list i will be flabbergasted

i wont be

21:08

the list was heavily scum sided

well i dont mean the role list

21:08

i mean that wolves had like 3 cit claims

doesnt matter

and a cleric i think

21:08

i mean yeah fair

we could afford something like -2 mistakes

we've made like -1 mistake

i donut deserve this win though LOL

21:09

all i did this game was make a blunder then check out

21:09

yuki really likes fake claiming roles as town it was extremely stupid of me to do what i did knowing that

21:10

to the point i even realized like a minute later they were probably not journalist

duckghost

Smart Alec

i donut deserve this win though LOL

are you winning son

@The Stoic is that a bug

22:09

Yuki has just subbed out as reporter

I guess

Oh it's just the discord role isn't swapped

Lol bas killing two townies

Yuki subbed out

I saw ocean being queued

Queued?

22:16

Ocean is going to be wagered right

Oh wait i thought shes gonna be soulkilled

I’m so lost what’s happening

22:19

Chimi

Yuki subbed out

am too stressed and tired to continue playing while maintaining my sanity with my role and involvment.

Yea I understand

22:19

Rest up

22:20

I feel it gets stressful

especially since the guilt of kinda throwing a possible win for town will keep swallowing me up for the next few weeks

Cutie

especially since the guilt of kinda throwing a possible win for town will keep swallowing me up for the next few weeks

Yeah unfortunately i feel that sometimes

there was no win

Nooooo

22:23

Don’t

22:23

It’s ok you didn’t do anything wrong

22:23

It’s also just a game

The Stoic

there was no win

was it not possible to snipe bass vote today if it wasent announced?

Yo yuki its been on my mind for some time but i like your pfp :3

22:24

Its a good art

Cutie

was it not possible to snipe bass vote today if it wasent announced?

unrealistic

Fairer Kid

Yo yuki its been on my mind for some time but i like your pfp :3

thank you its from my favorite artis i can afford to commission reguraly i got like more than half of my commissions from her

anyway yuki we have played the best losing game ive ever played

22:26

it was an honor

The Stoic

anyway yuki we have played the best losing game ive ever played

thank you

Cutie

thank you its from my favorite artis i can afford to commission reguraly i got like more than half of my commissions from her

Aww now i wanna learn drawing furries

22:27

Though I guess someone did commission me before for furry art

Cutie

thank you

and losing this was definitely not due to any mistake we've made

22:28

the math was already leading to a likely loss after we had gone through 2 deathless nights and had everything in our favor

Unfortunately assassin is really volatile with our current team ratios

22:29

Or whatever tk we have

22:29

We didn't have the double lynch mayor either

devil could've fixed it

22:29

but not with a demon

Double lynch mayor makes a bigger difference than I realized

yes

22:30

yes we needed either assassin to live, a backup tk like huntress, a double lynch mayor or being able to use devil's wager without triggering an instant loss

22:30

demon gets devil 2 players closer to winning

There was really no room for huntress in a tight list like this

We should have a role that gains a power based on the category of the first townsfolk to die

its a bad solution

22:31

that makes the first kill pointless

Might be better to have different team ratios in game sizes without double lynch mayor?

alternatively we can consider lowering the double lynch margin

Then it might be too strong for larger games

true

The Stoic

that makes the first kill pointless

well no you could exchange oracle for a weak invest

Unless you have it scale based on player count somehow

valid role could be gain a single generic power of the first category to die

The Ferryman

Unless you have it scale based on player count somehow

we can

22:33

condition "if less than half the players remain"

22:33

or something like that

Because double lynch mayor is like an extra tk

22:33

That is game size dependant

22:34

But we don't make our role lists to account for that

The Stoic

condition "if less than half the players remain"

yeah I think this is pretty valid?

Which can lead to some issues

2/3? of players are alive?

or something like that

Yea i think the 1st Assassin death screws town

it happened quite a lot recently where an important town was random killed n1

I think ts' mayor change is a good idea

22:39

We should do it after the game

22:39

To have more consistent town kill quantity

Cutie

am too stressed and tired to continue playing while maintaining my sanity with my role and involvment.

Yeah being town lead does that to you

What’s even happening in this game now lol

23:25

Feels like pure chaos

The Stoic

i soooo hope that bass will kill swurtle and pkr

this probably would have happened if i waited for kal to respond and i wouldhave been told to not announce, because swurtle allready tookover and announced the lynch i thought it was fine

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That was crazy

Wtf is happening lol

00:06

Town absolutely has to wager kill a wolf here right

00:06

RIGHT?

In most scenarios yes

00:10

But not all

Honeatly i think u can just sub in snivy for TT

00:19

Tattle

They're technically above activity limit

Players | Total: 16 Total: 8756; Public: 2346; Private: 6410

00:22

️ - @The Stoic; Total: 1932; Public: 483; Private: 1449

‍⬛ - @Bird Chaser; Total: 1287; Public: 208; Private: 1079

- @The Bright Kid; Total: 1167; Public: 237; Private: 930 ✨ - @Eagle Eye; Total: 1091; Public: 146; Private: 945 yeen

yeen

- @Scruffy; Total: 1085; Public: 337; Private: 748 thight

thight

- @The Fosterer; Total: 349; Public: 116; Private: 233

- @Just Mia; Total: 329; Public: 28; Private: 301

- @Smart Alec; Total: 297; Public: 257; Private: 40

- @Shybie; Total: 277; Public: 110; Private: 167

- @Serena; Total: 240; Public: 188; Private: 52 (edited)

00:22

️ - @Young'un; Total: 223; Public: 30; Private: 193

- @Fairer Kid; Total: 207; Public: 67; Private: 140

- @Worrywart; Total: 123; Public: 93; Private: 30

- @Stubborn Child; Total: 79; Public: 23; Private: 56

️ - @Burnt Kid; Total: 56; Public: 21; Private: 35

- @Mr. Dappy; Total: 14; Public: 2; Private: 12 (edited)

The Ferryman

They're technically above activity limit

So not sure if I can

This reminds me of the exact scenario of when Bas was town lead and Mia angel claiming open scum

00:24

Except ones role is reversed now

Is activity limit enforced on d0/n1? Realized I barely spoke this game

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D0 activity doesnt count in activity threshold iirc

Ah ok makes sense, d0 is usually pretty dead

Still means u should talk tho

Yeah for sure, that’s my bad

For info and stuff

We don't count n1 kills as inactive

Yeah i actually mean you should talk d0 to benefit town not in the enforcing rules sense lmao

Wtf

00:45

I guess this is how you add chaos without throwing

00:46

Now wolves should just skip or attack bass

00:46

Wouldn't that be fun

Lmaoooooooo what

01:15

How did light become guardian

01:16

What is this!!!

01:16

no clue but the person that took over from me is claiming demon?

They're doing great

Lmaoooo

01:39

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601388411490375/1375245129027158036

01:39

Checking sharl as despot is so fucking funny

01:40

Bas please read the desc and you cant kill soulless by any means!! So u cant get rid of light

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1375247380865220725

02:22

Just one hour ahead of me

02:22

Mia

02:22

Omg rise of asia players?!

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601253539713134/1375233312951369799

02:43

I love good liars in werewolves revamped!

02:43

(Sadly i am not one)

ive been told it sounds like i speak in code sometimes

Im not host but id vote PKR for Token tbh

02:47

If i was town id be fooled

Smart Alec

@<277156693765390337> yeah so like i was playing DBD so i was too lazy to think but immediately after saying yuki was journo i knew i was cooked because yuki plays funny and i knew no way theyre really journo and i was right LOL

this made me laugh

Fairer Kid

If i was town id be fooled

idk i belived it at first but as time went on the prying for any info just became suspicious

Vera

yuki's ctc retract strat was game saving tbh

i have to do it less or people wont belive my actual claims

I have to take notes and do this as actual cit

you just have to be 5 steps ahead and just go with the flow, i was accually considering claiming like a few minutes before ts but was like ugh too close to pc pings it will get missed so i was like wait an hour then claim so im sitting still on my phone and get ts runner claim ping so i also claim

03:11

also sorry to anyone reading what i type i am just not bothered to use punctuation half the time life's too short, and i get it wrong a lot anyway

You use more than swurtle at least

yeh but my best games so far have been me claiming hooker as chef and now claiming runner as cit, allthough this one doesent seem to be going to well. maybe should have like linked to the claimlist for whoever subs in

Probably should have left a message for your substitute

03:14

Partially my fault for not asking you to (edited)

eh its fine mia figured something out

03:15

but also i have no idea what that message would include

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601388411490375/1373996643283898429

03:25

wild list

03:25

also reading checkpoint

03:26

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601388411490375/1375283253501497525 When guardian is soulless

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601388411490375/1374607543011119134 wait they were convinced i was hell

Cutie

i have to do it less or people wont belive my actual claims

i mean yeah if i was thinking when i claimed i wouldnt have done it cause i knew like 90% your claim was fake

i think i might have allready overdone it and no one will belive my claims anymore

Cutie

yeh but my best games so far have been me claiming hooker as chef and now claiming runner as cit, allthough this one doesent seem to be going to well. maybe should have like linked to the claimlist for whoever subs in

Bruh you and the despot claiming runner made me not trust any of the claims lmao I was so sure runner died n1 and yall were all scum working together

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How would runner die n1 lol

06:33

Wager and wolves purposefully missing a kill?

that would be contradictive

It means he thinks swurtle killed dansan and wolves killed nobody

Swurtle n1 wager kill??????

06:38

Even in swurtle level... i dont think shed do that

06:40

Is it meta to think swurtle would make less bad plays or less leaking bc she has a mentor lol

06:41

Well we assume that she makes a more optimal play

The Ferryman

So not sure if I can

id consider not doing actions as inactivity in itself

06:52

so its fine to sub someone out for that, good that you give a warning first

The Ferryman

It means he thinks swurtle killed dansan and wolves killed nobody

What no I thought wolves hit same person a wager kill hit and that person was runner

07:01

Wouldn't a wager kill still be stopped by runner ability? Why would only the wager kill kill the runner

Because runner only blocks wolf kills

Oh that's lame I thought they blocked all kills

07:03

But only the first kill

07:04

That honestly makes it even more likely for runner to have died lol because it doesn't take two different kill targets

@The Stoic amethyst substitution failed, gonna need your help when you get on

Jesus so many subs this game

Thats wild

07:40

Soul is sold but nobody dies to wager tonight

07:40

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They can change their target but not the soul, no? #wager-recipient

appears they already executed it

weird

09:55

wager attack is end night

09:55

soul selling is immediate but after that i think target can switch or the recipient can even choose to protect instead, no?

09:55

;wager

09:55

yea

09:55

Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may change the target of the attack, or they may choose to change their chosen option to a protection.

09:56

seems like it might be formalized incorrectly then, as locking in a kill should not be possible as its end night

09:57

tho with protecting that's not the case?

09:57

feels very inconsistent

Hosts should fix it and manually kill if they fix the change?

~wager

Girl are they checking STRONGLY DISGUISED despot with psych wolf

11:09

11:09

Reading is banned in wwr

Watch them kill sharl bc they thought he isnt despot

11:20

That would be SO funny

Sticker

Fairer Kid

Swurtle n1 wager kill??????

If I’m town I’m not dumb enough to give hell a soul wolves I probably would depending on the situation and if I was despot I definitely would

yeah i think despot should

12:36

not town/wolf though

12:36

damn ddd is underestimating u

What happened

13:47

They tried to take devil

So many absent players

Yeah

14:17

They keep trying to kill devil

Alive Players | Total: 11

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

️ - sky_quiet (@Young'un)

- sharleclaire (@Shybie)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

Wait nobody died?

it's a 5v4 if sharl ascends and basscy is lynched, with a 4v4 come next day, so wolf win

The Stoic

Wait nobody died?

wolves attacked devil AGAIN

17:35

and wager attacked guardian prot

17:35

(town got wager)

Man why did they go for pkr

17:35

Sky was such an easy choicd

wait town can win if pack attacks bass again to make him lose

devil even tried to get them off pkr lol

The Stoic

Man why did they go for pkr

i have no clue

17:36

i think they relised too late

i like how theyre all assuming bass has no souls left

he has 1 right

17:48

yeh 1

yup

town havent done maths on winning numbers wolves havent done correct maths on souls no one has any maths ability

this has turned into a really interesting game rn

17:49

everyone is wrong about something and seeing them try and form plans is fun

except sharl

17:49

sharl is just fucking vibing

sharl has no choice but to vibe lmao

its 5v4v1v1 town needs an extra lynch or kill to win

bass is trying to save himself by siding with town, wolves are trying to kill bass not knowing he has a soul left, town is fooling wolves and sharl is sharl

i think since pack wants to kill bass it will give town the win since not enough souls to kill everyone

if pack kills bass, bass will try his best to make pack lose

17:52

bc hes salty he got attacked multiple times by pack wahaha

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1375501297939124334 light is not aware that wager attack on bas just gives him a soul

yup

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1375501583814754304 ...

lmao

no one that is not town will belive that

well nobody will care tbh

17:54

wolves thinking shes demon makes no difference

17:54

despot and devil know the truth

Vera

bc hes salty he got attacked multiple times by pack wahaha

DESERVEDLY

17:55

what were they DOING

RIGHT???

they attacked him once bc they thought he was recluse, then AGAIN because they STILL THOUGHT HE MIGHT BE RECLUSE?

they thought he had 2 souls so their plan was to get rid of his souls and then attack him

yeh, my playstyle invests too much into the game till the point i clouldent keep playing this time around

but didnt realise their wager attack on him did nothing

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1375503185602547732

"this will throw them into confusion" babe the reporter info....

amazing

18:10

this game is a comedy at this point

it really is

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374523773859922041/1375511555000635444 WAHAHA

#imconfused this is so funny and obviously fake

snivy is really nailing the chaos aspect

18:45

wolves have been fooled all game

The twist and turns I literally cannot keep up

also pack failed to kill 3 times

20:28

and one lynch failed

20:28

and game is still over 10 people because of it

This game has been a chaotic mess

There has been as many substitutions as people dead

22:25

This game has literally been a joke

22:25

I’m hoping that it’s a fever dream

The Messenger

There has been as many substitutions as people dead

lmao

22:38

sky voting themself

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22:39

for lynch

Im so confused, are town gonna lynch bas? He's basically the only night kill for town

23:10

If bas is lynched wolves win

Oh sharl is ascending lmao

Nice!

turtle is basically [logs on] "this strat is bad but whatever" [logs off]

Switching Mia in really was a genius strategic decision

It was not strategic

It was the perfect time to switch from our more methodical gameplay to absolute chaos

Sticker

The Ferryman

It was not strategic

Genius town strat

Bots being a bit slow

Does town still have a chance to win with the sky lynch?

town is still in with a chance, yes

00:02

as is devil

Does pkr believe that people still think he's town

Yea but town is gonna snipe hell tomorrow i think

if they kill pack or pack attacks bass

yeeesss

The Ferryman

Does pkr believe that people still think he's town

i think so

Congrats sharl

Congrats sharl

Shybie

yeeesss

congrats

thanks

Pkr is so funny

what's going on in the game btw

00:03

like, I just know finally everybody just wanted me out of the game

I was using the Swurtle pkr tt as one of several methods to intentionally leak data

Shybie

like, I just know finally everybody just wanted me out of the game

We were always planning to have you win

00:04

This game had very weird balancing

00:04

And assassin died n1

Also, ts, can devil wager attack switch targets after being chosen? It doesn't look like they can

The Stoic

I was using the Swurtle pkr tt as one of several methods to intentionally leak data

but you never said that it was tt in the first place

So we basically had all the info but barely any way to win

Fairer Kid

Checking sharl as despot is so fucking funny

LMAO

The Ferryman

Also, ts, can devil wager attack switch targets after being chosen? It doesn't look like they can

no

Yeet

i mean obviously they should be able to

00:04

but they cant

Alive Players | Total: 9

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

Yea the role desc says they can

The Ferryman

Also, ts, can devil wager attack switch targets after being chosen? It doesn't look like they can

Idk, they should but if they can't they can't

Bot issue?

obviously they can delay the actual soulselling and switch that way

Cutie

but you never said that it was tt in the first place

I was sort of vaguely pretending

but they can't switch after confirming soulselling

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sharl is just fucking vibing

I had 0 info. So as Vera said, no choice but to vibe

Fairer Kid

Bot issue?

formalisation issue i would presume

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turtle is basically [logs on] "this strat is bad but whatever" [logs off]

ahahahaha

Werewolves Bot B

Alive Players | Total: 9

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- theoceancookie (@Serena) ✨ - pkr1928 (@Eagle Eye)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

basscy light ocean ~~pkr~~ sunny kalimoor turtle mia snivy

The Stoic

So we basically had all the info but barely any way to win

how was town ok with giving me the win after I voted agianst them yesterday

The Stoic

I was sort of vaguely pretending

the only way bass found assassin was dead was cause swurtle took over for a bit afyer you died and justified a bass lynch because ts said basses claim was impossible

Shybie

how was town ok with giving me the win after I voted agianst them yesterday

Well idk at this point

00:07

But we were planning to have you win while I was alive

It was because you voted against them

I think at this point it was just a good way to get a volatile voter out

and what's up with Bass? Any hope for bass? and why were wolves constantly attacking Bass?

Now there's one less person voting against them

The Stoic

I think at this point it was just a good way to get a volatile voter out

I was hoping that would give me a win. Cuz there was no point in wasting a lynch on me

Yeah

00:08

Mayor was just gonna get killed anyway

Do you still hate despot ts

So election just became a lynch

The Ferryman

Do you still hate despot ts

Yeah

The Stoic

I think at this point it was just a good way to get a volatile voter out

thats basically it

The Stoic

So election just became a lynch

lmfao

Lol the assassin being dead is easily figured out Only a singular attack in the night after trusted was formed

00:09

Well for town nobody died

Yeah assassin being dead is trivial knowledge

Shybie

and what's up with Bass? Any hope for bass? and why were wolves constantly attacking Bass?

someone explain please

The game is broken

00:09

Hell is too strong

00:09

Neither team can act

The Stoic

Hell is too strong

never have I ever heard that in a WWR game

The Stoic

Yeah assassin being dead is trivial knowledge

well they think amethyst was ia assassin

Because then hell will kingmake against them

The Stoic

The game is broken

I love it then

00:10

Hell always gets easy lynched

00:10

good to see them get through

Basically the game has for the entire time been close enough that hell can make either team win at any time

Lets make other solos as strong as hell

00:10

Ez balancing

esp after them giving me wager and also helping me for the last 2 days

Fairer Kid

Lets make other solos as strong as hell

no

The Stoic

Basically the game has for the entire time been close enough that hell can make either team win at any time

that's very nice ngl

please no

Flute Player role that can kill enchanted

as a person who has struggled to win as a solo before, even if you play all the right cards

Shybie

that's very nice ngl

Well it's only because hell was too op in this setup

The Stoic

Well it's only because hell was too op in this setup

if assassin was not killed N1, might have not been op

Pyromancer that can disguise themselves

Shybie

if assassin was not killed N1, might have not been op

Yeah

What else

Fairer Kid

Flute Player role that can kill enchanted

flute want unenchanted to die

The setup was entirely reliant on Assassin surviving

It would be archs most deserved win ever if bass takes it

Deserved for me? I only lived for like one phase lol

The Ferryman

It would be archs most deserved win ever if bass takes it

why Archs most deserved?

Sorry bad joke

Smh

oh

00:13

lmao

I didnt think youd be sarcastic against me wtf

00:13

I thought you were nice

Arch won in one of the early seasons as hell/arcangel right

00:13

?

Uhhh

00:13

Tbh i forgot

The Stoic

Well it's only because hell was too op in this setup

town was underpowered in this setup really

Shybie

Arch won in one of the early seasons as hell/arcangel right

No, it was www

wolves were well-powered but did not play well except pkr

WHY DID WOLVES KEEP ATTACKING DEVIL?

Idk if i ever won as hell

and ftr i did tell hosts to pump up town a bit but they chose NOT❌ to follow my advice

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town was underpowered in this setup really

Yup

Did you? Somehow I didn't notice then

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and ftr i did tell hosts to pump up town a bit but they chose NOT❌ to follow my advice

Luffy is famous for that

i told u to replace cleric with something more powerful and u straight up said NO❌

Was town really underpowered? Assassin died n1 thats the issue

Fairer Kid

Was town really underpowered? Assassin died n1 thats the issue

That's the point

And wolves have no scared

A single random death shouldn't be an instant loss

Oh yeah the cleric part, I don't think cleric was the issue tbh

Fairer Kid

Was town really underpowered? Assassin died n1 thats the issue

if 1 death turned the tide so much yeb

Maybe RH instead of despot maybe?

Like by the time I figured out that winning is extremely unlikely /difficult we had pretty much done straight up everything right

Fairer Kid

Maybe RH instead of despot maybe?

# LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

And had all the info

this game for me was like >uh despot, let's see what happens >oh. runner fake claims. How obvious >I hate this role and game >Oh. Ts is nice to me. He relaises there is more important people to lynch >Oh damn. Wager. I can get towns trust perhaps by helping them (and the panic with the fact that I didn't have much time when I logged on) >Oh wow... everyone wants me gone now. I do not hate this role or game as much anymore (edited)

rh is not in a playable state rn

Wdym

00:17

Not in the bot yet?

no as in

00:17

it's a bad role

00:17

and we can't figure out how to fix it

Shybie

this game for me was like >uh despot, let's see what happens >oh. runner fake claims. How obvious >I hate this role and game >Oh. Ts is nice to me. He relaises there is more important people to lynch >Oh damn. Wager. I can get towns trust perhaps by helping them (and the panic with the fact that I didn't have much time when I logged on) >Oh wow... everyone wants me gone now. I do not hate this role or game as much anymore (edited)

You ended up playing quite well

Its a small list, and only one to three strong/confirmable roles can be in town for enough claimspace

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# LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

QI klaxon time?

yea

00:17

u get me

The Stoic

You ended up playing quite well

thank you

Maybe one of the cits should be huntress?

The Ferryman

Its a small list, and only one to three strong/confirmable roles can be in town for enough claimspace

Assassin is too powerful for the list

couldve done barber and strong amne probably

Don't have a single outlier that your list relies on

If i made it again I'd turn demon into a town

Damn i wouldve been town

The Ferryman

If i made it again I'd turn demon into a town

no

00:19

then hell would have been very underpowered

No

The Ferryman

If i made it again I'd turn demon into a town

just making hell lonely and weak

00:19

and not helping me in any way at all

devil is fucking hard to win as

Demon and devil in this list is madness

basscy has played lowkey incredibly actually

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devil is fucking hard to win as

yeah

But 2 hell is probably worse

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devil is fucking hard to win as

It gets easier without demon

tbf

The Stoic

It gets easier without demon

with demon you mean

00:19

without was the pain

i think devil with an extra soul at start

Shybie

with demon you mean

Without

or devil+demon with one less soul at start

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i think devil with an extra soul at start

2 is plenty

but devil alone with 1 soul is bad

Each additional starting soul makes it weaker

The Stoic

Each additional starting soul makes it weaker

yup

when you are alone as devil, it's all lonely. And someone figures out who you are 3 days in and it's curtains

true

It's why devil is getting weaker the more we use demon

you can create chaos, but winning becomes nigh on impossible

yeah i think 2p hell but with fewer starting souls wouldve been the way to go

A single sold wager is more valuable that a starting soul

Well i meannn i saved devil by making town think i was devil as demon

00:21

uglysmile

1p hell is obviously harder to get wager actions early but it's far too easy to eliminate

But more souls mean less selling

Though i don't actually know how to modify soul count, I don't have database access

Fairer Kid

Well i meannn i saved devil by making town think i was devil as demon

do both devil and demon have disguise?

yes

Yeah

I'm a bit lost with all the roll updates

00:21

ah ok

Why cant we change disguise lol

The Stoic

A single sold wager is more valuable that a starting soul

i think wager invest needs a nerf tbh

Also hell should have the wager role announcements in the hell chat

00:22

Not just devil

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i think wager invest needs a nerf tbh

Sounds reasonable

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i think wager invest needs a nerf tbh

wager invest has always been like this though

rn it's really strong with little consequence bc devil knowing ur role has almost never been a big deal

It's too good

so it's too tempting

Yeah

Changing a role that has been played forever in this community is crazy

The Ferryman

Though i don't actually know how to modify soul count, I don't have database access

Do you want it?

we change devil literally all the time (edited)

00:23

u guys just dont pay any attention

The Stoic

Do you want it?

Would be useful for when I host

Devil has evolved a ton

Cerberus comeback plz /j

The Ferryman

Would be useful for when I host

Dm me so I have the dm as a reminder

Fairer Kid

Cerberus comeback plz /j

Same

00:24

But we need an idea

a bunch of cerberus stuff still exists in the bot

00:24

weirdly enough

Imp too

00:25

Cerberus was not a good role at all loo

loo

L

dont give me that

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1375136896732233779/1375596579712536597 thanks Jay

Loo(l)

Shybie

I had 0 info. So as Vera said, no choice but to vibe

Except bara bada bastu lmao

The Fosterer

Except bara bada bastu lmao

lmfao

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i told u to replace cleric with something more powerful and u straight up said NO❌

Why do you let Luffy make rolelists and him veto your ideas

bc i am not going to exert dictatorial control over the rolelists

lol

wow everyone wants to sub

02:32

lol

nobody wants to play this game anymore lmao

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The Fosterer

nobody wants to play this game anymore lmao

I did

The Fosterer

nobody wants to play this game anymore lmao

town arent even throwing

02:51

hes just getting manipulated

lmao

yeah i wont sub him out because hes dying end phase (kal isnt even able to change targets so its guaranteed) (edited)

are wolves sabbing and killing the same person rn?

Vera

are wolves sabbing and killing the same person rn?

this pack has been sounding like a mess

Eh. I mean so many souls have been sold at this point that Hell's just gonna win

12:07

So town still did sorta throw from being so pro-Hell

12:07

I stick by what I said. And Hell team.. is, well, Hell. Actually miserable to go against

12:11

Actually to be fair we're the ones who have made it so town had a chance. And if I had killed the one who was not given the wager, town just loses. So

‍♂️

12:11

I guess town got lucky here

Eagle Eye

So town still did sorta throw from being so pro-Hell

siding with hell would be their only chance

13:20

its not throwing

Eagle Eye

I stick by what I said. And Hell team.. is, well, Hell. Actually miserable to go against

not attacking them at night and not giving them a soul wouldve been a start ahha

13:21

but you did what you could (edited)

13:22

tt saw through you from pretty early on

wolves thinking yuki is hell while town clearly sniped my lynch is so funny

13:24

yea i mean assassin died n2

13:24

n1

Fairer Kid

wolves thinking yuki is hell while town clearly sniped my lynch is so funny

yeh ... and pkr was in on the snipe

hell is their only weapon

damn i guess i shoulsnt have subbed out

13:24

couldve gotten that win

13:25

but hey

13:25

had to deal with stuff

13:25

and have to deal with upcoming stuff

i got lynched the day after i subbed in cuz i couldnt change my disguise

13:25

13:25

lol

whats the situation atm

13:26

can hell win rn or not?

Alive Players | Total: 7

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

i think town win cuz iirc they plan to snipe bas

1 hell with 2 souls and 2 soulless

Fairer Kid

i think town win cuz iirc they plan to snipe bas

Oh if they plan that then they might win. But Bass might revenge kill town.

2 wolves

13:27

4 town

Eagle Eye

Oh if they plan that then they might win. But Bass might revenge kill town.

thats why town plans to snipe

imagine wolves siding with bass for the vote KEKW

KEKW

(edited)

at least kal said that

town sniping bass without bass killing town might lead to a town win

yea

bass killing any town hands wolves the win

wolves attacking devil twice bigbrain

bigbrain

Vera

not attacking them at night and not giving them a soul wouldve been a start ahha

If we didn't attack them, hell would have 2 more souls rn and would've just been winning and been able to take out anybody with little recourse.

13:29

But ye

oh thats fair

13:29

town and wolves had to go against devil

13:29

but it's not town throwing to side with devil

Like town's winning because we went hard against hell team

devil mightve helped you guys if you didnt attack him lol

Yeah. Idk how Yuki got trusted over me but it is what it is

13:30

I did my best x3

yuki got trusted on the basis of retracting their claim

yeah i think youre the best wolf team member pkr

not much more of a trust than being checked by devil

13:31

but vibes and reads made them more towny ig

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601253539713134/1375233165706137610

13:31

kal said youre such a good liar

but ts had his doubts about both of you

Fairer Kid

yeah i think youre the best wolf team member pkr

Thank you >.> I tried so hard to play the social game. I realised for a while Mia was cit when I was called out. But then Mia did the whole Hell thing and my solve went out the window

Eagle Eye

Yeah. Idk how Yuki got trusted over me but it is what it is

because reclues claimed to see me as journo while I was cit

It's why I ended up just changing lanes quickly

Cutie

because reclues claimed to see me as journo while I was cit

with wager

13:32

and i claimed cit to ts

Cutie

because reclues claimed to see me as journo while I was cit

yea this solidified it

Cutie

because reclues claimed to see me as journo while I was cit

Oooof. So that's how our Recluse got outed. That sucks

ts was still pretty unsure about the cits bc of ddd, so to him you could both be cit

#the-runner-who-ran is the ts cc

but there was still the weird ddd claim he didnt wanna believe but had no grounds to deny

13:33

so it was a constant doubt of who was actual cit

13:33

yuki was there trusted the most bc of the recluse confirm (edited)

Hahaha, fair enough. It's unfortunate there I guess. If Recluse didn't do that, I might've stood a better chance in my claim

he got you pretty good with the swurtle fake tt cc

yeah 100%

and for example snivy was already added to the real tt, so no point convincing them

13:35

only sunny could be convinced but they got journal so it was from then on that you were confirmed scum

13:35

which they of course didnt make you believe

Yeah that's fair. I wasn't aware of it but had to try what I could. Else town just wins. I realised the possibilities of Mia Hell or Mia Cit. I also remembered Swurtle was using it on Cit, so that's how I realised Sin was lying about Cleric

demon still alive wouldnt make sense, as you even helped snipe demon

Town had numbers if Mia was town or Hell had too much power if Mia was Cit

Vera

demon still alive wouldnt make sense, as you even helped snipe demon

I mean wolves had no way to know that fully

fair

Eagle Eye

I mean wolves had no way to know that fully

in a hell game a snipe is usually done only for hell so they cant sk

I will say that the fact Kal was acting like the plan was to throw to Hell team still is a lil irksome. But I respect Kal trusted the right people in the end due to good ol' PoE

13:39

Like if you know town's winning just.. say that I'm outed tbh and tell the truth. Instead of making me think a throw is happening and taking away all my willpower to bother x3

13:41

I do kinda hope Bass realises town is in a winning position and so takes out town a bit. Because Bass said he was going to "keep things balanced" yet it sounds like a lie now too (edited)

kal did step out of line a bit

13:48

he also pushed bass to a swurtle kill, which wasnt ideal

13:49

it was really unnecessary but i think bass mightve still done it bc swurtle was literally begging

I just realised that Kal's basically given away that town has majority to Bass. So from Bass' PoV the only way to win would be to soul kill rn. So the fact it's not happened yet is fascinating

14:19

Like Kal made it so it's not a secret by murdering me. Bass knows that Mia's not Hell, so Bass knows town has 4. That and Kal literally said it lol.

Eagle Eye

Thank you >.> I tried so hard to play the social game. I realised for a while Mia was cit when I was called out. But then Mia did the whole Hell thing and my solve went out the window

You fooled me a sneaking wolf then again this is why I can’t trust checks affected by weak disguises…

Hahaha, I did a good job of acting like I didn't realise about the check being affected by disguises, aye?

14:32

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Hey Dan! Thanks for being my first ever kill, I'm sorry that lady luck wanted you dead though, you're a fun player x3

14:33

And ty

Eagle Eye

Hahaha, I did a good job of acting like I didn't realise about the check being affected by disguises, aye?

You did…

Haha its all good, this game wouldve been different if I got a kill or two out, but you guys got me out early which was great for yall

The Fosterer

You did…

I play a lot of werewolf and mafia style games. Blood on the Clocktower.. a fair few tabletop sim social deduction stuff

Like secret Hitler lmao

Yes. Secret Hitler, Avalon, The Resistance, Feed the Kraken, Shadows over Camelot, Shadow Hunters.

Ok haven’t heard of the other social deduction games that exist on tabletop sim lmao

And as I was saying in some of my chats I was actively playing werewolf last night. I was the Angel (Get executed D1 to win or become a normal cit), won as town. Then I was the Witch (Reracked), the Witch (Reracked), the Fortune Teller turned Thief turned Cupid

14:36

The original Thief sat next to me so stole from me and told me, so I just whispered and gave them my info

14:37

And I'll be doing more werewolves tonight ^-^ And maybe BotC too because I do BotC online a lot

I never see any BOTC games ran on tabletop sim anymore

Yeah but I play on Blood on the Clocktower Unofficial and sometimes do stuff on the official app

14:43

I'm known as Kiiruma there and I have a.. lot of meta to me. I'm so often evil and when I'm not I often become evil (Pit-Hag shenanigans and/or always accepting Mez words). I'm a very vocal player with my world building so being a wolf kinda comes naturally to me but I certainly prefer having mech I can use. So it'll be nice when I can be a non-vanilla lmao

14:45

Because as I stated in the wolfpack I've been Angel (Who chose what was essentially vanilla town), then Citizen, then Assassin who got murked immediately, then Sneaking Wolf (The citizen of wolves) yippee x3

cough we have a new mafia server thats more reads based than mech based btw

15:06

Tbh Mafia and Werewolves both suit me, but maybe cuz i am a long time mafia player

So, relatively mountainous games?

mountainous?

Vanilla Town vs Mafia Goons (No special abilities)

like lots of reading yes but last game was inactive enough that you can easily read

Eagle Eye

Vanilla Town vs Mafia Goons (No special abilities)

yeah, and roleblocker

Fair enough. I play a good bit of longform too. Blood on the Clocktower but on a forum for longform games, Throne of Lies but on forums and Forum Mafia.

15:09

But I usually enjoy rolemadness more than mountainous

Fairer Kid

like lots of reading yes but last game was inactive enough that you can easily read

How are y'all already having inactive games the server just started

idk tbh i think its just bc some people are more experienced in wwr

15:10

when turtle was playing the game was one thousand fold more active

15:10

hes a forum mafia player

Fairer Kid

like lots of reading yes but last game was inactive enough that you can easily read

There’s a reason why I like wwr more over mafia

Yep. I'm a forum mafia player, so makes sense, I think forum mafia activity vs werewolves activity can be quite different, it's why I try to improve my activity.

check out #partners

I'm.. a relatively controversial figure with regards to forum mafia history lol. But honestly, it's been many years, a mistake was made by someone I'm close to and I've had many years of good times since with no problems except being judged for the past

the server is new but im sure we can have more varied roles as it grew

I only play anarchy games in mmm cuz those are a lot more fun than normal mafia games those are boring. Although one day I want to see if I can get myself in a traitors org and see how I do in that lmao

15:14

Two of my coworkers did traitors irl last weekend which sounded like a lot of fun lmao

Eagle Eye

I'm.. a relatively controversial figure with regards to forum mafia history lol. But honestly, it's been many years, a mistake was made by someone I'm close to and I've had many years of good times since with no problems except being judged for the past

pkr lore ⁉️

It's not good lore at all x3 But I mean I've played a lot of games after that bad event and all of them have been fine

im not familiar with forum mafia at all so you're good lol

15:49

the only reason i am even in this server is bc jay invited me so that i could join a game that they were trying to make the biggest game on the server so far and then i never left because i am a masochist

Neat

i am the #1 mafia hater on this server but also i only ever played 2 mafia games in my life

18:15

i love werewolves tho, been playing that for years at archery events and one of my archery friends invited me here

i was brought into this world by the ineffable leilaboo

how did leila even get here

i dont remember

18:16

actually i do

18:16

some guy at a compsci camp she did i think

old server, right?

yup

18:17

i dont think he played much

leilaboo would never play wwr

it's true

18:17

leilaboo would never stream

actually she will stream

18:18

after march 31st

Vera

i love werewolves tho, been playing that for years at archery events and one of my archery friends invited me here

what your archery events have games like werewolves? damn we just git targets and a nervewracking clock

Serena

what your archery events have games like werewolves? damn we just git targets and a nervewracking clock

for the youth they organise sleepovers in the hall and sometimes a camping weekend on the outside field

19:05

theres also paintball-archery whre you shoot rubber-tipped arrows at eachother

19:06

and stuff like christmas shootoffs where you can win presents that other people have bought

Fairer Kid

i got lynched the day after i subbed in cuz i couldnt change my disguise

lmfaoooo

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374523773859922041/1375880309408530594 this is just wrong? noowaoa

noowaoa

Yeaaaa steins fault for not claiming runner asap

19:26

But ig cant blame him if hes busy

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601140716863519/1375140180255707277 I never saw this msg frikking hilarious

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https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601140716863519/1375140180255707277 I never saw this msg frikking hilarious

how often does the bot put these msgs?

19:28

like this phase, both deaths got some add on messages

It is a loot thing

Vera

theres also paintball-archery whre you shoot rubber-tipped arrows at eachother

gaah archery tag is soo fun

Shybie

how often does the bot put these msgs?

its an equippable loot item

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The Stoic

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374523773859922041/1375880309408530594 this is just wrong? noowaoa

noowaoa

should i correct

19:33

snivys got confused between late/lock i think

yeah dont yall correct false info like that

19:36

cant let them spread pripaganda smh

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should i correct

I think, maybe?

19:37

it is unclear but this is not something they could read up

19:37

So they have no chance of correcting themselves without intervention

Serena

gaah archery tag is soo fun

that was the word i was looking for and yes, its sooo fun

Shybie

like this phase, both deaths got some add on messages

the one from this phase was the reward for the last event game

19:38

the rating and a few others are generic loot box rewards

Vera

that was the word i was looking for and yes, its sooo fun

got to play it once at a sleepover at the archery club house. what a blast

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Serena

got to play it once at a sleepover at the archery club house. what a blast

i had no clue you did archery tbh, how long have you been at it?

dunno but i havent touched the bow in a while cause uni has been tough T-T (edited)

real actually

19:42

i havent actually done any archery in 3 years bc all my friends left the club

one day i wilm have my own back yard and shoot daily smh

but before that i had a weekly training for like 10 years

Vera

i havent actually done any archery in 3 years bc all my friends left the club

oof

19:43

oh wow that long

Serena

one day i wilm have my own back yard and shoot daily smh

thats the dream

Serena

oh wow that long

i read a book about archery once and got obsessed with it ahha

yeah i atleats want a slightly more remote forest nearbyx then i cam get my own target and shoot there but the closest one to my apartment rn gets too many visitors and doesnt have a good spot that isnt also populated by others

Vera

i read a book about archery once and got obsessed with it ahha

lmao when i was öittle i always imagined i would be an archer if i was in a fantasy book. didnt realise i could actuallh do it irl untill waay later

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yeah i atleats want a slightly more remote forest nearbyx then i cam get my own target and shoot there but the closest one to my apartment rn gets too many visitors and doesnt have a good spot that isnt also populated by others

have you shot at 3d targets? its so much fun

gaah no but i want too. my club has a forest area with a trail set up with 3d targets i think but ive never used it (edited)

the club has a pretty big field so sometimes theyd set up 3d foam targets like rabbits and badgers for us to shoot at

Serena

one day i wilm have my own back yard and shoot daily smh

I did when I was a kid. I lived with my grandma and she had acres of land and I would shoot at this massive foam die every other day

omg jelous

19:47

maan its gonna suck to come back to the club after being gone so long (edited)

19:48

anyways i go sleep gn yall

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‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

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- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

4 v 2 v 1?

20:45

Snivy is mistaken

Bass still isn't murdering a town yet despite that being Bass' only wincon since Bass should know that good knows they have numbers

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I dont think bass is thinking

Yeah seems like Bass isn't. F

21:49

Which means this is just a town win.

21:50

Like ain't a thing that can be done haha, for Hell / Wolves to win, Bass has to soul kill. Otherwise town wins

21:51

It's annoying that Kal killed me because I realise that's non-town's 1 chance and I don't think the other non-towns realise it else they'd rally together

Nice

Eagle Eye

It's annoying that Kal killed me because I realise that's non-town's 1 chance and I don't think the other non-towns realise it else they'd rally together

Hey you wanted out of the game didn't you

I didn't I was robbed

uh maybe somebody should let them know that votes past XX:00 may not count?

22:44

though I feel like they should know that?

i will say something bland

like the poll may close a few seconds later

22:45

but it might not count votes in the last few seconds

i wonder if all of town will make it

they need to if they want to win

yup

23:33

my prediction is they'll miss it

two people have not showed up yet

23:41

i guess kal will make it

23:41

sin hasnt spoken in several hours

23:41

23:45

wait they may only need 3 to snipe?

23:46

one of them better show up

all of them said theyd show up

23:50

so

23:50

we'll see

The Stoic

wait they may only need 3 to snipe?

they don't need sunny but they do need kal

yup

23:51

sin showed up

23:51

thats fine

23:51

oh nvm

god every snipe just reminds me of the time i had to convince swurtle luffy was lying to her

sunnyy didnt vote

23:53

kal

i suspect kal will show up

23:53

but he only really has a few minutes to

yeah

they have to spam him

they really should at this point

are you nervous ts

rip

awe

00:01

there goes towns chance

bass didnt even send a wager

00:06

this has to be one of the all time worst games we've ever had

~~should have been reset~~

not surprised the townies dont wanna play anymore

call it a draw at this point lol

town did extremely well with no mistakes and then was still losing mathematically, then they pull some chaotic shenanigans to have a chance again, and then one guy not showing up messes even that up

00:09

if this game was set in any sane reality it would've been a huge town win

00:09

(i mean wolves even thought the game was going in towns favor when we were losing hard after doing everything right)

watch wolves attack devil tonight

yeah possible

in a game with devil, even a town that plays perfectly can often lose

00:11

happened to me more than once

"often"

The Ferryman

in a game with devil, even a town that plays perfectly can often lose

doesn't seem like something that should happen?

if town plays perfectly, they shouldnt lose

00:12

devil shouldnt often win even if another team plays perfectly

00:13

it means hell is too strong or the other team is too weak

arguably a team playing perfectly increases devils chance to win, due to more souls being sold

??

because when a team is losing badly they will be more likely to sell soul to deivl

yea thats true, but that was not the issue here

The Ferryman

happened to me more than once

i feel like this is simply not true

00:14

and yeah definitely was NOT the case here

no lynch again

00:15

?

00:15

lmao

00:15

nice

town tried to snipe, but kal didnt show up

lmao

crazy, luffy was town in every hell win there has ever been

if bass get's a soul tonight, bass can win asap right?

he didnt send wager lmao

oh bruh

00:17

F

The Stoic

crazy, luffy was town in every hell win there has ever been

that is crazy lol

I don't think I've have been in a hell win game?

00:18

ever?

there have been four: S5G4, S7G4, S9G3, OS9A

I have been in a flute win game in VIP I believe

00:19

Luffy and Leila I think

00:19

Dennis and I were wolves town and us kept pushing the parcel to kill flute

00:19

and we pushed it too much

i was hoping the game would end here, but now its gonna go on for a bit longer

The Stoic

there have been four: S5G4, S7G4, S9G3, OS9A

ah. idr any of them lmao

what the hell happened in s5g4

00:20

how did hell win with demon dead

00:20

the log seems incorrect

Shybie

ah. idr any of them lmao

you played s9g3, apparently

Honestly, I don't remember most game numbers after S4G7 XD

Vera

the log seems incorrect

IA

The Stoic

you played s9g3, apparently

oh? What was I

The Stoic

IA

hilarious

huntress

00:21

you died D2

Shybie

Honestly, I don't remember most game numbers after S4G7 XD

but I do remember specific games. Like one where I held out for a long time as wolf. Fed was Executioner. but on the last day it was me against 2 child or something

i keep a list of every game ive played and significant things

00:22

otherwise i wont remember anything at all

and I remember being solo teammates with 3let like 3 times in a space of 6 games or something. That was a fun time

00:22

we never won, but we played well

if i forget a game, it probably wasnt interesting

i just remember most significant games

00:23

from memory

i have less difficulty remembering s3 games than recent games

without checking I remember like? s1g2, s1g3, s2g8, s3g1, s0g0, s7g7, s8g8 and thats it

I rmemeber I was Turtles waiter in turtles first game

00:24

I clearly remember S4G4 5 6 and 7

oh and s3g2

s7g7 was pretty legendary imo

Vera

s7g7 was pretty legendary imo

what was that?

the wizard conclave

00:24

where marten got killed and we had to figure out who did it

Shybie

and I remember being solo teammates with 3let like 3 times in a space of 6 games or something. That was a fun time

but I can't remember which season this was idr if it was S6 to S7 period or S7 to S8

we were on an insane wolf team

I see

it was the first mystery game

i fakeclaimed hag and we got witch killed n1

also one of the only games ever to have fully themed prompts and everything

00:25

we have barely ever done that on this server

i remember the plague maths we did that game

00:27

i only remember a few games tbh

00:27

s3g1, s3g5, s0g0, s7g7

Vera

we were on an insane wolf team

apparently I was in your team in that game lmao

which one was s3g5?

00:27

2nd game here I guess?

ok now I vaguely rmemeber the game

s3g5 first split game

ah

i went insane

oooh

great roleplay tho

mansion party

yea

one set in the past one in the current time

00:28

where you in the modern or the medieval one?

medieval

probably the more interesting one for rp

the game on minis

00:29

was cupid connected to medium

oh wow we had medium as early as s3g5?

wait what happened

wasnt medium MWR?

Cutie

wait what happened

kal didnt show up to his own snipe noowaoa

noowaoa

yea

The Stoic

kal didnt show up to his own snipe noowaoa

noowaoa

...

s3g5 was during minis great time

00:30

the height of minis

I can't find the data sheet for S7G7 for some reason

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601162468786226/1375956702045933659 lmao

oh i also remember v1g1

00:30

amd s3g2

00:30

oh amd s3g3 where i was flute? iirc (edited)

Shybie

I can't find the data sheet for S7G7 for some reason

someone plis help find this

Shybie

someone plis help find this

data sheet?

Vera

i remember the plague maths we did that game

what exactly did we do?

plague maths?

00:31

figure out who was gonna die when

Vera

data sheet?

the one with days we were alive, subjective score, etc

00:31

for each game

the old ones are usually hidden

old ones often are hidden

00:32

you can make a copy of the entire thing and search for them

Vera

figure out who was gonna die when

ah. I vaguely remember this part. I do remember you pulling off a blinder and being town trusted the whole game

yea hags were new and somehow everyone trusted them

00:32

they were easier to fake back then

there was this game this season (or late last season?) where I essentially figured out the entire player rolelist with just logic

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but then died at night

00:36

idr which one

00:36

I have a picture in quality cc's of my guess also

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ah

00:37

nice

Whats happening lol

01:03

Peeps burnt out?

omg

01:11

Is this game ever ending

01:12

Omg can we hmm end this game somehow

01:13

Everyone wants to sub out

Maybe we can sub back in the dead players since we're out of subs

Loool

01:14

I shouldn’t have spectated

01:15

Bass forgot to whisper

01:15

Ok this game is a hot mess

if sin dies then bas can win tomorrow by killing the people with souls

01:17

3 people have no souls rn

I shouldn’t want this as host but the game needs to end

01:32

I genuinely don’t know how I’m gonna write two more deaths after N7 phase change

01:32

What do you mean their bonds deepen QwQ

01:33

It’s lord of the flies

Chimi

Ok this game is a hot mess

yeh ...

01:42

stop

01:42

fuck again

Cutie

stop

minecraft server...

if town gets killed this night town can no longer afford bas lynch lol

02:09

devil will either win or become kingmaker

02:10

uh wait nvm math is hard

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‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

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- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

2 v 4 v 1

02:11

yeah wolves are forced to vote with devil for a chance

The Messenger

It’s lord of the flies

this is fully your fault for running a lord of the flies game when NEITHER OF YOU have READ LORD OF THE FLIES

Eagle Eye

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this is fully your fault for running a lord of the flies game when NEITHER OF YOU have READ LORD OF THE FLIES

Lmao

theyre fr killing sin lol

04:25

i HOPE bas knows who to soulkill

04:25

ik it wasnt intentional but not wagering is the best option here imo

At least it’s almost over

06:29

Free the players

06:32

Is it almost the end of the season

its the last onseason gamr right?

06:34

will we get some offseasons before new season?

Fairer Kid

theyre fr killing sin lol

Yeah idk why. Like it's obvious to be killing those who have probably given their souls. But

‍♂️ Guess Hell just wins

unless bass doesnt realise lol

Chimi

Ok this game is a hot mess

why?

Yea lol

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- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

️ - sinisfuel (@Burnt Kid) yeen

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- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

Shybie

why?

I assume she means that nobody was voted and nobody was wagered last day

11:53

People lost interest or busy

Serena

its the last onseason gamr right?

this is going to be switched to offseason post game

^

bas come on

13:30

he can just soulkill snivy and mia right

13:30

wait no

13:30

tutel also has his soul

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this is going to be switched to offseason post game

?

says on the tin

14:49

the game went so badly we don't want to count it as season

14:49

so it'll be a half-weighted offseason

noooo. I got a despot win

Lmao thank god it’s an off season game

Can bass win?

I only joined it with an exam coming up cuz it was an inseason game

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@Burnt Kid congrats you’re out of misery

The Fosterer

@Burnt Kid congrats you’re out of misery

thank God

Vote Mia biches

18:20

Actually they can just tie

So soul kill Mia let’s say they lynch snivy then bass needs to kill turtle but he’ll have one soul will wolf attack him?

18:22

Idk devil makes it so complicated

why is mia voting kal

if bass gets lynched here, wolves win if a non-soulless gets lynched here, bass wins town need to lynch a soulless or tie to have a chance

Please let it be a tie just to drag on the game even further

22:52

I don't see how town can still win tbh

22:52

But a this point it would be extremely funny if it goes on another 2 days

The Stoic

I don't see how town can still win tbh

expert gaslighting and manipulation (i assume)

this game is STILL GOING???

Smart Alec

this game is STILL GOING???

u were so lucky

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u were so lucky

i was freed

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u were so lucky

btw jay i just had a PEAK locker play

23:18

i jumped into a locker mid chase, killer couldnt find me, by the time they went to check on the locker i had inner strength healed and then head on stunned them into a parental guidance escape out the exit gate

23:18

(eventually)

woag

23:19

that is pretty peak

23:19

also im free for like an hour tomorrow morning (midnight for u) if u wanted to do a short stream

sure if im awake and around

wake and round...

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23:20

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601172685979658/1375994364769075351

23:20

holy shit its actually a fucking prison

I feel like Mia is technically throwing

23:25

I do support it however at this point

23:26

I nominate this game for a game where all non ia, subbed out and throwers get result "Endured"

The Stoic

I feel like Mia is technically throwing

Maybe less technically and more straight up unless there's a secret plan I don't know

i mean rn mia cant unvote without town losing

23:45

but ill just check to see if thats why shes doing it or not

The Stoic

I nominate this game for a game where all non ia, subbed out and throwers get result "Endured"

Could do

town are just making up info at this point

23:56

"i dont think bass has souls" how could he POSSIBLY not have any rn

LMAO

23:56

Town had a chance but a missing vote yesterday ruins everything

Bass could kill mia, get turtle lynched as a result, and then kill the last soul person

23:57

And end game

Alive Players | Total: 6

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid) yeen

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- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

yea

Mia is wagered but idt she is gonna do anything to sell her soul

23:58

Actually killing wolf (again) might give town a chance to win?

If turtle is lynched then bass has enough souls to just win

Except he wont be lynched i think

Fairer Kid

Actually killing wolf (again) might give town a chance to win?

no

23:59

shed become soulless and bass would have more than enough souls to eliminate the remaining two soulless

True but it doesnt seem like he keeps track on soulless

00:00

Lmao

00:00

Eternal game

00:01

Lets see if mia sells soul

00:01

Oh its snivy

day 11 draw sounds lovely doesnt it

Oh its Mia lol

00:02

What is the longest game record again

Omg

00:05

00:06

At this point

00:06

This game will never end

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i mean rn mia cant unvote without town losing

Oh I meant in the 4-3 vote situation

ah

Alive Players | Total: 6

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid) yeen

yeen

- kalimoor (@Scruffy)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

I don't know how it changed to 3-3 at this point

00:20

I meant 4-2

00:23

Has switched ig?

00:23

Bass

it is actually impossible to run through all paths for this game

00:23

theres just too many

Maybe if i was an ai I could

i was gonna try run through all the "wolves kill kal" paths but i actually cant

No one is playing optimally everyone just does whatever

The Ferryman

Maybe if i was an ai I could

if u were an ai would u be gay

Id probably be asexual

00:24

What is this line of questioning

;wager

Btw how do we fix the formatting on this

This game has been stuck in the neither team can act as otherwise devil makes them lose for days now

we could honestly call it a draw at this point

00:25

i think that might be the best option

Omg can we please

00:25

Maybe devil isn't as good as i thought it was

Just end it with endured

it's a perfect hatch stalemate

But you know what I think hosts should suffer

The Ferryman

Maybe devil isn't as good as i thought it was

devil is great

00:26

if bass had been paying attention he'd have won last phase

Well town could’ve won if they sniped

Ok should I make a poll for a draw?

00:26

For living players

no dont poll the players

Just suboptimal play all around

a "draw" situation is a decision for hosts to make

00:26

not players

Poll the spectators uglysmile

uglysmile

i think it's the right decision here

00:27

but it's up to you two

As a spectator I support jay

Nono

00:27

Keep going

realsad

don't

Otherwise people. Will be super annoyed

Ts likes suffering

please i want this game to be over so i can mute the server

That’s why he’s the stoic

Nope can't end it now

How come you wanna mute the server?

Huh why

Should've ended it days ago

00:28

But you missed the chance

End the suffering

Now you gotta commit to it

00:28

You couldn't commit to the rest days ago

thight

A reset now is just a slap in the face for everyone who suffered for like 4 days after the game should've been reset

I mean, they probably want a reset though

it does work

Well not a reset

00:29

Just an end

I mean that's a reset

destroy the game

End the game!!

erase its existence

Nope

The Stoic

A reset now is just a slap in the face for everyone who suffered for like 4 days after the game should've been reset

this is ur fault for not wanting a reset btw

Well a reset implies we're restarting

No don’t res set

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this is ur fault for not wanting a reset btw

I was a player tbf

It prolongs the suffering

00:31

realsad

The Ferryman

Well a reset implies we're restarting

Which we are doing

Let it go and forget it existed

We wouldn't just end it and do new hosts and signups?

I wanna see how much longer they can prolong it

I think that’s a terrific idea

Like can we reach day 9?

In replying to Luffy not Ts

Ilm take over hosting if you're tired of it

Loool Ts really wants this to go on

Okay, no draw then, since you feel so strongly about it

ts i will mute u

The Ferryman

Okay, no draw then, since you feel so strongly about it

DRAW.

Nooooooo

<277156693765390337>

ts i will mute u

So valid

00:33

Ts is the despot

I’m happy to end with draw

COOL

00:33

DO IT

Oh yayyyy

Make a poll asking if anyone wants to keep playing

Worst game I ever hosted lol

Loool

The Stoic

Make a poll asking if anyone wants to keep playing

For formality we need to do this

The Messenger

For formality we need to do this

NO U DONT

00:33

thats not how a draw works

00:34

it's not like an ff

I’d like to ask

it is solely a host decision and should never be delegated to players

I pretty sure everyone knows the outcome in this case

a draw isn't "ohhh we dont wanna keep running the game" it's "this game is in a situation where no team can win without another team deliberately sacrificing their chance of winning"

A draw is a reset tgat counts

yes

00:34

sure

00:34

whatever

But this already doesn't really count

00:35

So really it's just a reset

a draw is a reset that kinda counts

<277156693765390337>

a draw isn't "ohhh we dont wanna keep running the game" it's "this game is in a situation where no team can win without another team deliberately sacrificing their chance of winning"

this game is inarguably a stalemate and player opinions on it dont change that

This game could legitimately still be won by I think wolves and hell

u wouldnt ask players to vote if they think wolves should win

<277156693765390337>

this game is inarguably a stalemate and player opinions on it dont change that

I don't think it is

The Stoic

This game could legitimately still be won by I think wolves and hell

it could legitimately still be won by town, i believe

It is just super horrible

<277156693765390337>

it could legitimately still be won by town, i believe

I'm not sure I even want to know how

oh it's a terrible winding pathway

See so we have to keep going

im muting you again

Rude

The Stoic

I'm not sure I even want to know how

Devil kills turtle and devil is lynched

as in. theres a way for town to do it without any other team knowingly sacrificing their win chances

00:37

but

00:37

the reason this should be marked as a draw

00:37

is that it sucks

00:37

i was gonna type out an actual answer but i cba

00:38

the reason this should be marked as a draw is so that i can mute the server before my exams start

Okay but this game sucked days ago

00:38

It should've been reset then

The Stoic

Okay but this game sucked days ago

AND I TOLD THEM TO RESET THEN

00:38

AND THEY DIDNT

00:38

NOT MY FAULT

If you reset now you just made people suffer for 4 days for no reason

00:38

Like literally just making them suffer for fun

Except it wasn't fun

<277156693765390337>

AND I TOLD THEM TO RESET THEN

Well I know that

00:39

So not your fault

u also told me to tell them not to reset

The Ferryman

Except it wasn't fun

But if you let one team win there was at least some sort of purpose in the suffering

00:39

And it wasn't for no reason

What if I just let everyone alive win and everyone else loses

but if u let a draw happen there was a purpose in the suffering too (watching everyone get really mad)

Can we phase fast forward then

<277156693765390337>

u also told me to tell them not to reset

I don't think I quite did but I simp ply did not want to give up

00:40

Which is kinda valid

00:40

Like asking for a reset is giving up

00:41

So I was never gonna do it

The Ferryman

What if I just let everyone alive win and everyone else loses

thats pretty much what a draw here is

The Ferryman

What if I just let everyone alive win and everyone else loses

That's even worse wow

^ mad bc he wnats the win

You can offer phase wise ff

<277156693765390337>

^ mad bc he wnats the win

So true

whats the point in ff'ing if it's a draw

Endured then?

<277156693765390337>

whats the point in ff'ing if it's a draw

I feel like if it plays out wolves or hell will win

endured is a dumb result

Likely tomorrow

00:42

So it feels unfair to end it now

The Ferryman

What if I just let everyone alive win and everyone else loses

just do this and give it a 0.25 weight

00:42

then give ts a token

00:42

so he doesnt complain

The Stoic

Likely tomorrow

dont think a win tomorrow is possible

00:43

unless wolves/hell misplay

Idk based on vibes I think it is

im muting u again

<277156693765390337>

just do this and give it a 0.25 weight

Ok I'll do this

00:43

Sorry ts

I'm arguing against what benefits me

Wow

00:45

It’s finally over

Phase wise FF is still kinda valid, resetting now however just is dumb

Maybe we can add sin into the draw list since he was there for a long time too

Not how it works?

just mod kill everyone and say everyone lost

If you want the game to end in a somewhat legitimate manner do phase wise ff

The Ferryman

Maybe we can add sin into the draw list since he was there for a long time too

bad

Anything else is just a reset with flavor

The Stoic

If you want the game to end in a somewhat legitimate manner do phase wise ff

this isnt fair at all

He suffered

bc several players wont be online and stuff

<277156693765390337>

bc several players wont be online and stuff

Wait for them

The Stoic

Anything else is just a reset with flavor

reset with flavour is the correct outcome here

FF when everyone is online

Ff doesn't work in a game where sniping is a requirement to win

Then don't end it

00:48

Like either commit fully to resetting or fully to not resetting

00:48

A draw makes sense after gamethrowing

you are a living walking fallacy

bribe everyone who complains with coins, regardless how you end the game

maybe not living

<277156693765390337>

you are a living walking fallacy

Elaborate

everyone gets 1 coin

The Stoic

Elaborate

no i need to continue revising

I think everyone who has spent 4 days alive suffering shouldn't now get fucked over by a reset

I guess ts needs to play again this season to meet the quota

The Stoic

I think everyone who has spent 4 days alive suffering shouldn't now get fucked over by a reset

They technically win though

I've played os only before

The Ferryman

They technically win though

They don't???

00:50

A draw is not a win

00:50

It's like a half win at best

Hmmm

00:50

I wouldn’t complain about a draw personally

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Lmsoooo

00:51

Useless red circle

Chimi

I wouldn’t complain about a draw personally

Valid but I feel. Like there can't be mu Un left of this game, right?

00:51

Can't Bass win tomorrow with a sk?

What does mu un mean

Much

Ohhh

00:51

Idk

00:52

I kinda feel like each side has fumbled enough to warrant a draw

The Ferryman

They technically win though

What wasn't it decided as a loss during the pokemon game

Yeah a draw is not a win

00:53

It's a live loss iirc

00:53

If I was playing I could be fine with alive loss on like d4 of this game

00:53

But not n8

00:53

Hosts missed their chance imo

Mhm

00:54

We missed our chances on so many things though

They kept tying votes (edited)

Luffy's games tie a lot

If wolves kill Kal tonight italmost guarantees a lynch tomorrow

00:55

Which gets the game to 3p

insert another afk player

At which point the outcome is likely trivial

How about we fast forward

They might attack bass

Chimi

How about we fast forward

Seems fine

00:56

There's 3 possible actions this phase

00:56

If all are finalized the phase can be ended

Theres a good chance the game goes on for 2+ more days

Too bad

In terms of what I know for next time:

Bot handles phase change until it doesn't and be prepared to spam ping Ethan when it dies
Scrutinise plays for meta much more often
Don't hesitate to substitute people out
Don't run a theme that you don't know sh*t about
And damn we really should end the game cause everyone is suffering and wants a new game

Yeah in hindsight the game should have ended even before I died

00:58

But obviously I wasn't going support that as a player

It really should've

Everyone spent so much time i didn't want their efforts to go to waste

I mean we should've known by the time that we were bringing in substituted outside of the game

The Ferryman

Everyone spent so much time i didn't want their efforts to go to waste

Yeah but at least at that point it would've been justified

01:01

So I guess we learn from that

01:02

I support ending it if nobody wants to play, but if we don't wanna do a poll we can't know (edited)

We can do a poll

All of current town has called for substitution and bass clearly doesn't want to continue playing as devil

01:03

We can ask pack I guess

Then ask if anyone wants to keep playing or if we should just reset

01:05

If nobody wants to play then nobody will mind a reset so that's fine then

01:05

And nobody's chance to win will be taken

Welp

01:05

There's bass

Great

01:06

I mean I would've been annoyed as well if we ended while I was alive

01:06

But once again at that point there was a very clear reason and justification

01:07

At this point the reason just is nobody wants to play, which I guess is inaccurate

Can we ff looool

Lmao

Even bass wanted to ff

I want to ff

01:31

Mmm

Bro is itching to pull the trigger

Do it ghost

01:32

You’ll be the hero of the story

This is your child ghost fast forwarding it is like not letting it live it's full life

lol?

01:32

ddd you have no idea what mood I am in now

01:33

Actually, give me a sec

01:33

I'm gonna go strangle my blankets

FF seems good

01:35

There not much in this phase

Ts is the real devil

01:36

Bass is just an imitation

So, just pack voting tonight for who to kill?

01:38

Guardian is on turtle

01:38

Wager recipient doesn't have any options

Probably can't ff because light and turtle went to sleep

Fudge

01:40

This is the only time I can actually run anything

01:41

Stupid work taking all my time away :)

You need a vacation

I just need to get this game sorted

From the outside the game looks super exciting I'm surprised people hate it so much

01:54

Yeah a lot of misplays but still interesting

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1375136896732233779/1376322598798889030

02:19

Lmaoooo

They're turning on each other like savages lmao

02:20

I love a sassy devil

Kek peak

02:49

That should be all actions for ff

Disagree from the outside perspective it’s odd and confusing

That's the best part

02:52

ITS CHAOS

02:53

It’s just watching a puppy trying really hard to climb up a staircase and failing

02:53

Makes me feel realsad

realsad

Eagle Eye

used /result

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Category

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slimeball

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slimeball

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If mia kills devil wins If mia doesnt kill wolves win (edited)

05:20

Ez tbh

05:21

Or town is forced to tie the poll with devil tomorrow lol

05:21

And so on and so forth

05:21

Prolonging the game

lmfao what is happening

STOP THE COUNT!!!

09:02

STOP THE COUNT!!!!!

just end it in a draw or a tie or whatever

Loool how is this game still going on

What's happening

13:26

Are we not ff

Apparently not. Yippee

Yayyyy

14:03

Freedom

14:04

That was so painful

Vro why isnt bass winning yet

14:14

Light and sniv are souless he just has to soulkill turtle and mia

14:14

Is snivy soulless?

Chimi

Is snivy soulless?

Is snivy not

Idk I don’t remember

14:18

I don’t think so

I think we used snivy soul to kill pkr

14:18

So yh

Oh

14:18

What

No

14:18

My soul

lol

But i think snivy was souless too

14:18

And light

At this point can we draw this

14:18

I don’t think so

14:18

Hmm

14:19

I don’t remember!

Please end this

14:19

This is a hell win

14:19

snivy isnt soulless i think?

I don’t think so

kal, light and ocean were

o

It’s just a tie forever

14:19

Can we soul kill bass

He still has 2 souls if he gets mayor he wins

14:19

Oh my god

14:20

This is still a draw

14:20

Because if wolves dont cooperate bass just explodes them

I think at this point it’s a draw

Its crazy that we had to orchestrate like a bajillion snipes

Lmao I was so excited for town

14:20

Like i get the point of surprise but when you have to do it 3 times correctly to have a chance to live its Not fun

Chimi

Lmao I was so excited for town

shit happened irl I won't elaborate

Scruffy

Like i get the point of surprise but when you have to do it 3 times correctly to have a chance to live its Not fun

And having to deal with the ias and the info of whatever the hell ddd did and slowing wolf votes down and gaslighting bass to convince him he can't win yet uuughhh

14:22

Despot is the only winner of this game

14:22

Sticker

Alive Players | Total: 5

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- mister.turtle (@Stubborn Child)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

if someone that's not bass dies, bass can kill wolves to force a tie with town

14:27

if a non-souless dies, bass wins

14:27

if bass dies, wolves win

Vera

if bass dies, wolves win

Where is the town wins?

14:27

no clue

Dawg

bass killing wolves right now

14:28

and then town lynching bass

14:28

that's the only way

So bass kill turtle basicallu

14:28

killing just turtle wont do much

14:28

that leads back to bass winning or town and hell tie (edited)

It’s ok rl stuff more important

Vera

that leads back to bass winning or town and hell tie (edited)

this game is eternal oh my gó

Chimi

It’s ok rl stuff more important

Still sux a bit since i was the originator of the pla nā

Loool it’s okkk it’s just a game

14:33

I was so shocked tho

14:33

Sharl did good

Eagle Eye

Like if you know town's winning just.. say that I'm outed tbh and tell the truth. Instead of making me think a throw is happening and taking away all my willpower to bother x3

It worked stupendously

14:37

14:37

well at the expense of pkr

Sorry but the whole point was to slow votes and erode wolf morale enough so we could sprout a swift win based on that

14:38

And it was gonna work w

Chimi

Sharl did good

Sharl didnt know what was happening

14:38

Just wanted to win

14:38

Yes but like .. most people didn't

14:39

Tbf it didn't rlly affect everyone but devil and I genuinely didn't want sharl to be terrorized by all sides when their win was practically guaranteed anyway

Just a weird game (edited)

"Weird game" is such a stretch

Wolf kinda made some blunders otherwise it should've been a wolf win

Chimi

Wolf kinda made some blunders otherwise it should've been a wolf win

Well no if wolves revolted town just asks bass to kill them or lose

Its a stretch? Or like hmm it's an understatement

Generally the winning side lost

Devil is too strong in this role list

Devil was far too strong yh

14:41

Town was basically in for a very rough game since assassin n1 kill

14:41

With a despot that was a scum vote the moment it was outed

Scruffy

Please end this

Why did you get bass to soul kill me lmao

The Fosterer

Why did you get bass to soul kill me lmao

what

14:43

I was a pebble in comparison to the boulder that was you begging for it

14:44

14:44

It was funny though

I thought dying as journal was a good thing so you can confirm someone else

The Fosterer

I thought dying as journal was a good thing so you can confirm someone else

Well........ You were our mayor

14:44

Dying to soulkill is lowk not ideal

14:44

Better to soak a wolf kill

Scruffy

Where is the town wins?

If you were able to snipe Bass it was there for 'town wins' but you got busy which is fair, life happens

Level up!

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Oooh neat

Eagle Eye

If you were able to snipe Bass it was there for 'town wins' but you got busy which is fair, life happens

No i mean now And well that yeah

I can't tell if turtle dying is good or bad for town

This game is so fun to watch either way

I feel like wolves just won?

18:14

By turtle dying?

18:14

Somehow?

So basically town has to force a tie

18:16

Actually if bass has no more souls they could just kill light

Bass believing devil is weak is still the funniest thing ever

The Stoic

By turtle dying?

They were on track to win anyways

I guess town should aim to tie?

That would make more sense i think

18:18

Now they can tie instead of lose

18:18

If they notice it

Though they tie if they lynch light

There is no way they don't notice it light just admitted he can just kill the mayor in the night openly lmao

Which should be a desirable outcome for bass

Daredevil

There is no way they don't notice it light just admitted he can just kill the mayor in the night openly lmao

?

For town the notice they need to tie

I think if they lynch light it ends in a hell tie

18:25

Immediately

18:25

If they tie it's still unclear

Unless Mia still gets mayor

18:31

Actually nvm

idk about you guys

19:46

but this game is actually great

19:46

so much thought having to be done

19:46

and in the balance for so many days

19:46

a true thriller

Welp

19:50

Turtle died

19:51

So lynch light this is a tie?

19:51

Or no

19:51

Devil can soul kill snivy and mia?

19:52

Does the devil die if they have 0 soul

19:52

;souls

19:53

I don't get it realsad

realsad

Chimi

Does the devil die if they have 0 soul

well if they get attacked yes

Oh

the devil can always get more souls so reaching 0 souls doesn't mean they're out

I realized bass only has 1 soul left

19:54

Gotcha

at least i would assume so

19:55

i played with devil a couple times i feel like i would remember if they just exploded at 0 souls

Ok ok makes sense

19:55

So this is a town/devil tie then

wait game is still going ...

We can never escape

19:56

It’s the never ending game lmao

escape what you're not even playing

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realsad

19:56

I wanna spectate a different game

ban chimi 2025

Noooo

Aleeeeeeeeex

escape what you're not even playing

Says someone else whose not even playing

im not asking to escape

hes demanding

cant believe stein outlasted me as a player

Oop

Fair Kid

hes demanding

*shes

Saw that one coming.

The Fosterer

*shes

alex is a she?

swurtle he was talking about me..

@Aleeeeeeeeex statement?

Fair Kid

alex is a she?

Oh I thought you were talking about chimi

Fair Kid

@Aleeeeeeeeex statement?

quack

Aleeeeeeeeex

quack

honk

‍

Sticker

19:58

Sticker

I’m only thinking for the well being of the players

reading 100

Fair Kid

honk

p***uin

Sticker

uglysmile

19:58

I’m an advocate for the voiceless

Chimi

I wanna spectate a different game

^

Chimi

I’m only thinking for the well being of the players

the moment you join this server your well being is no longer a thing

Sticker

realsad

The Fosterer

Click to see original message

That’s what this game has been

That is true

so true (i have no idea what's going on)

19:59

raton

Hmm me neither

me neither

That’s so truuuuue

Typical wwr convo

Chimi

I wanna spectate a different game

Not play?

The Fosterer

That’s so truuuuue

MADE IT OUT ALIVE BUT I THINK I LOST IT SAID THAT I WAS FINE I SAID IT FROM MY COFFIN REMEMBER WHEN I DIED WHEN YOU STARTED WALKING THATS MY LIFE THAT MY LIFE I PUT UP A FIGHT TAKING OUT MY EARRINGS DONT YOU KNOW THE VIBE DONT YOU GET THE FEELING YOU SHOULD SPEND THE NIGHT CATCH ME ON YOUR CEILING THATS YOUR PRICE THATS YOUR PRICE

The Fosterer

MADE IT OUT ALIVE BUT I THINK I LOST IT SAID THAT I WAS FINE I SAID IT FROM MY COFFIN REMEMBER WHEN I DIED WHEN YOU STARTED WALKING THATS MY LIFE THAT MY LIFE I PUT UP A FIGHT TAKING OUT MY EARRINGS DONT YOU KNOW THE VIBE DONT YOU GET THE FEELING YOU SHOULD SPEND THE NIGHT CATCH ME ON YOUR CEILING THATS YOUR PRICE THATS YOUR PRICE

ban

Swurtles just kinda spamming random stuff lol

yeah its Monday

and its Swurtle

The Ferryman

Swurtles just kinda spamming random stuff lol

I was singing a song you just don’t know it

The Ferryman

Not play?

I wanna play

Chimi

I wanna play

play some video games

realsad

20:18

Animosity

I am deliberating of buying a game similar to stardew

20:19

fields of mistria

Specifically that game or any game similar to stardew?

that game

20:20

its still early access

Farming sims

Is it good

I don't even recommend early access games anymore they kinda force you to keep coming back to a game and sometimes takes years to finish

im manning a booth for an indie early access game ive never touched this week

bigbrain

Alive Players | Total: 4

‍⬛ - basscy (@Bird Chaser)

- lightpulp (@The Bright Kid)

- miaa_006 (@Just Mia) ❤️‍

- aliisniv (@Scaredycat) (edited)

Win not possible

Yeah the best town can go for is a tie

21:29

Which I mean, is probably the best wolves can hope for too so lol

Eagle Eye

Which I mean, is probably the best wolves can hope for too so lol

?

21:30

Bass has 1 soul rn?

I think so? Don't remember fully. But I mean town's not wanted to cooperate much with wolves.

Eagle Eye

I think so? Don't remember fully. But I mean town's not wanted to cooperate much with wolves.

Cooperating with wolves even once was town losecon

21:39

Killing bass removes variance and enters endgame where it reduces down to votepower

Yeah, I'm not denying yall weren't wrong for doing so

I'm just saying at this point the best we can now hope for really is a tie (edited)

Wolves always had the power to equalize, or had greater vote power than town, and since wolves can directly kill they can get themselves out of stalemate

Eagle Eye

Yeah, I'm not denying yall weren't wrong for doing so

I'm just saying at this point the best we can now hope for really is a tie (edited)

Yh

How do wolves tie this if light is lynched?

Scruffy

Wolves always had the power to equalize, or had greater vote power than town, and since wolves can directly kill they can get themselves out of stalemate

Yeah we absolutely could have. If we left Hell completely unchecked. We used 2 night kills on Hell

21:41

Because Hell can only murder 1 person.

21:41

And that creates a tie

Scruffy

Wolves always had the power to equalize, or had greater vote power than town, and since wolves can directly kill they can get themselves out of stalemate

The only case where this wasn't true was the 4v2v1 that won for town if bass was lymched and disnt kill

Yes but it’s a wolf loss or no

IDK. If it is then that just sucks lol

It is

Chimi

How do wolves tie this if light is lynched?

No tie between town/hell

Okie

21:42

Makes sense which is increasingly more likely to be the case

Welp. So we lose because despite us actively helping town to try and deal with hell, we lose because screw us I guess.

It will happen

21:42

Neither are souless aeaw

Eagle Eye

Welp. So we lose because despite us actively helping town to try and deal with hell, we lose because screw us I guess.

If hell was dealt with it was a wolf win

Sad

On the spot

Yes. So this setup just feels like an inevitable town has to bargain with hell and creates just a wolf loss?

21:43

Neat

Eagle Eye

Yes. So this setup just feels like an inevitable town has to bargain with hell and creates just a wolf loss?

There was a power imbalance

21:44

Town was on the losing end

21:44

Hell profits from a losing side

So now town ensures wolves are on the losing end instead

Again

21:44

The winning side was gonna lose

21:44

I suspected this and was entirely the reason why i didn't end up genuinely throqing

Eagle Eye

So now town ensures wolves are on the losing end instead

Well as long as it isn't town themselves

That.. doesn't make sense? It just feels like kingmaking. Which is funni, because this isn't even going to be counted as a full game for the league

Yeah it's basically that

So yay for kingmaking, this doesn't mean anything anyway :3

21:46

The fact that this would be a tie for Hell team when they were just playing outed anyway is quite something and just tells me I'm probably never going to like Hell as a faction

Sorry for doing one of the dirtiest strategies in the book on you btw Attacking the motivation to play itself steemed from the need to control vote dynamics that led up towards EoP Wouldn't have used it otherwise

Eagle Eye

Yes. So this setup just feels like an inevitable town has to bargain with hell and creates just a wolf loss?

I don't think it's inherent in the setup.

Hell can't choose to work with us for the tie because we can attack them down. Town can't choose to work with us for a tie because of kill power. It's inevitable they have to team up

21:47

This is either going to be a town win or a hell win if people realise that soon enough. Or a tie between non-wolves if they don't

Eagle Eye

The fact that this would be a tie for Hell team when they were just playing outed anyway is quite something and just tells me I'm probably never going to like Hell as a faction

I like hell, you can think of it as a faction that profits from equalizing the game So unless the game is very inequal and either side knows/feels it is losing hell usually tends to lose

21:48

Here something happened with hell though

21:49

I think the issue steemed from day soulkills

But if teams choose to have hell lose, it's because one team is already going to win anyway. If there's a decent balance in power like we've had in recent days, Hell just wins or causes a tie

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Having to be forced to votesnipe so many times to have virtyally any chance to win is

21:49

Not normal

21:49

And definitely was not fun

Eagle Eye

But if teams choose to have hell lose, it's because one team is already going to win anyway. If there's a decent balance in power like we've had in recent days, Hell just wins or causes a tie

Yeap

21:51

Wolves were paradoxically at a disadvantage because of having the advantage

21:52

The "winning" team was never going to win

Eagle Eye

This is either going to be a town win or a hell win if people realise that soon enough. Or a tie between non-wolves if they don't

Well, now yes. But that wasn't inherent in the D0 setup. There was at least once, if not twice, that we could have ridded us of the Devil, but in hindsight it did not work out.

Stubborn Child

Well, now yes. But that wasn't inherent in the D0 setup. There was at least once, if not twice, that we could have ridded us of the Devil, but in hindsight it did not work out.

Town was reared against a wall when we realized in this setup despot is a scum vote and we lost assassin n1

21:53

So kinda have to nuke wolves

21:53

If assassin were alive though even until n2 this all would have happened fiffreently

But if town was winning it just.. causes the demon to work with wolves and inevitably fight against wolves too because they can't deal with being attacked? It's rough to realise in retrospect now that wolves have to be an enemy of hell. (edited)

21:54

Like no matter what, wolves aren't an option to work with(?) but town is if things go, well, how they went x3

Eagle Eye

But if town was winning it just.. causes the demon to work with wolves and inevitably fight against wolves too because they can't deal with being attacked? It's rough to realise in retrospect now that wolves have to be an enemy of hell. (edited)

If town is winning devil bargains with wolves to nuke town, if wolves accept it is a hell win So yeah accurate

21:56

Generally wolves have to get rid of hell very fast even if it seems innocuous because the moment town realizes they are in trouble hell is going to become untouchable

Which.. I tried to have us fight pretty hard against hell haha

Eagle Eye

Which.. I tried to have us fight pretty hard against hell haha

Me knowing u were a wolf all along:

21:58

I knew i had to convince you sin was journaled cleric, tunnels you further since light outed wolf was a cleric claim iirc

Oh to be fair I didn't trust Sin was Cleric for a second, I killed Ocean knowing Cleric x3

Pmaoo

21:59

I wasnt gonna tell you they were journod cit tjough

This game just really got fucked by devil being so extremely powerful

Oh I knew they were journo'd cit because I came up with that plan >.>

Though I think the main fix needed is extending double lynch mayor

Eagle Eye

Oh I knew they were journo'd cit because I came up with that plan >.>

Kekw

We pretty much knew every role by the time I was alive and couldn't do shot about it

The problem was rooting somewhere from voting yeah

22:01

Town was helpless even if they had a lynch plan already

22:01

But consider there was assassin

Yeah

They just

22:01

Died

22:01

Assassin + vote power would have done ok for example

Yeah that was bad design

At that point though you're just.. forcing wolves to kingmake. And that sucks lol

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Eagle Eye

At that point though you're just.. forcing wolves to kingmake. And that sucks lol

Yeahhhhh

22:02

I think having to play around soulkills was unfun, as well

The Stoic

This game just really got fucked by devil being so extremely powerful

Yes, I don't know why people are so intent on soul-selling.

Stubborn Child

Yes, I don't know why people are so intent on soul-selling.

If town didn't, town lost

22:03

Wolves were going to mow down devil when town was wiped

I mean in general, a wolf soul-sold too.

How are they planning to snipe?

22:43

Regarding light and bass

Are they prolonging the game zzzz

Chimi

Regarding light and bass

Tie

23:06

Yes,

23:06

This game is going for

23:06

Another day

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Oh god (edited)

Light kills either

lol

Oh

23:07

Ita a live loss

23:07

So its better ig

Light live loss

23:08

Since soulkill sniv

23:09

Stubborn Child

Yes, I don't know why people are so intent on soul-selling.

I still think adding a demon to this List was waaay too much (edited)

idk can i make a radical suggestion

23:12

Since ccs and teams are a thing

Hm?

The Stoic

Hm?

I was going to suggest vote anonimity for last minute(s) of any poll but realized that may be a bit borked for many reasons

So many ties

Is there any salvation

So what happens today? Light can’t kill anyone without losing

He can attack the devil

00:24

That's it

Ok he attacks bass

It's his only non losing option

Tomorrow they lynch light then bass

00:25

Town win?

They probably can't lynch light

00:25

If bass votes with ligjt

Ok

00:25

00:25

So then light attacks bass

00:25

Bass dies

00:25

Wait

00:25

Hold on

00:25

Hmm

00:25

Idk

Infinite stalemate

Bass won’t tie with light because that means bass will die so bass will prob vote with town to lynch light

00:26

But then bass won’t have a soul so town can lynch bass

00:27

So bass would have to tie

Off

00:27

Omg

00:27

Can we call this a three way tie or ?

00:27

Wait

00:27

But if bass ties he’ll die to light

Yes but only if that happens

That night

Light wouldn't be able to attack anyone there without losing

00:28

So light might not attack

That is also true

00:28

I think light shouldn’t attack tonight

00:28

It’ll be a 3 way tie

00:28

Well if anyone plays optimally this game is a 3 way tie no?

00:29

Can someone verify this?

00:29

Brain not working

Chimi

Well if anyone plays optimally this game is a 3 way tie no?

I think so yes

00:29

Big if though

Ok thank you hmm .. should we just call this a tie then?

Only if they play optimally

00:30

infinite loop until someone forgets to vote

Shorten phase change by and hour each time

Let’s just turn it into a mini wwr game

00:34

10 min phase changes

The Ferryman

I think so yes

Wellnno?

00:35

Its town OR wolves tying with hell

00:35

nvm

00:35

Stalemate

00:35

We reaching day 20 with this one

If its stalemate we would end game in a draw

Light attacks bass bass feels threatened town lynches light and bass complies

see this is what i came up with

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Light attacks (someone else) bass soulkills other town bass wins

00:36

Bass doesnt brain and doesnt feel threatened by light even post attack wolves win

You just made a coding flow chart lol

i had to this situation is too complicated for language

Its a bit wrong though

oh yea?

If bass is attacked and bass ties the vote

00:37

Its not a town win

00:37

Light can then either kill bass, a town, or nobody on the following night

bass ties the vote? wouldnt light be lynched?

He would have to tie

00:38

Otherwise he loses

right

00:38

wait hold on

00:38

LOL

00:38

ok

00:38

light can also attack a townie to a stalemate

00:40

ok it is fixed?

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Third option of nobody

NOOO

00:40

AHH

00:40

idk

Also a third option of nobody tonight

if Light kills a townie is a wolf win

00:41

yea if no body then backs to current state

Yes if light kills a town then its not necessarily a wolf win

00:41

Complicated game

bass is losing no matter what? unless light night kill a townie (edited)

Bass wins if light kills a town

Image attachment

00:42

i think this is good

00:42

bass will be the king maker tomorrow i guess

00:43

unless light blunders

Light killing a townie in the end, likely results in his lynch because then tkwn can tie instead of lose

hmm real

00:43

wolf win is pretty unlikely

Or if bass votes with light then bass wins due to light being souless

true

Unless light is voting bass

hmm

00:44

yea

Which is more likely (edited)

right so then bass can vote with the town to get rid of light

00:44

and we have a draw

00:45

yea its a draw

So the optimal path for light is to attack bass 1 time

00:45

And then tie forever

00:45

For a tie that includes him

yea so

00:45

can we just declare this

00:45

as a draw

Well no because we don't know what light will do

00:46

fine

He hasn't figured out the optimal path yet

here

Image attachment

00:46

final answer

Theres still the 3 way draw you're missing (edited)

00:47

its too complicated

00:47

LOL

Yea but as a coder this is like, something you're supposed to do for every job

LOOL

00:49

just pretend there is an arrow going back it will be an infinite loop

The Ferryman

Theres still the 3 way draw you're missing (edited)

Im crying is this the first ever 3 way draw we will get

01:06

Rock paper scissors in WWR before gta 6

Chimi

here

If light night kills bass wolves win

01:07

If he does a 2nd time

That is true

i wonder what pkr would do if he was alive

If town votws with light wolves win

Wait no

01:07

Wolves don’t win

The Ferryman

i wonder what pkr would do if he was alive

gaslight everyone and win

Town will vote out light

He's a strong player

01:08

I did such a nasty sucker punch of a move

01:09

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1374523773859922041/1376697891187462184

01:09

01:10

We got to a point where dying is more fun than playing

01:11

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1373601154809856151/1376699135222218863

01:11

This correct

01:13

This game has so much meme montage material it sucks idfk how to edit

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Chimi

here

vote with town is wolf win

‍

Chimi

here

Add in "wagerkill = hell win" too

01:16

Wait

01:16

Wait wait wait

light needs to attack luffy

What about mayor

doesn't matter

01:16

if they're tying lynch they tie mayor

It breaks the tie

oh

It makes the game untieable

no

01:17

but

01:17

who would be voted mayor

Bass

01:17

If that happens it is devil win too is it not

Chimi

here

no attack =/= bass being attacked

Scruffy

Bass

why would 2 town elect bass

01:19

they can elect mia

Ethan

why would 2 town elect bass

Idk tbh

01:19

What if they forget

01:20

Current state is a stalemate

01:20

If light/wager do a move someone wins and it is usually hell

bass wins if it's 0 souls and tutel/mia + light + himself

01:20

he votes with light to vote out the town

01:20

and wins

Is a tie worth more than a live loss

Ethan

bass wins if it's 0 souls and tutel/mia + light + himself

Bass has 1 soul

oh wait

01:21

tutel died

01:21

sorry snivy

Scruffy

Bass has 1 soul

yeah

01:21

but

01:21

cause light is soulless

01:21

hell wins

Yeah

01:22

If anyone becomes souless or someone not souless dies hell wins (edited)

01:22

Instantly

yeah

‍

01:23

I’m not putting more mental power but I hope it ends soon

01:23

Snivy is not soulless

01:24

Idk wtf is going on anymore

It is great

Bro

01:28

Game has not ended? Lol

this is ground hog day instead of lord of the flies

It's a whole JoJo episode

idrk too much about Jojo

Image attachment

jesus

01:53

can we just pick the most common occurence

01:54

and end game

3/13 Hell win 2/13 Hell/Town tie 4/13 Town Win 4/13 Wolf Win (Made 1 mistake)

Image attachment

hmm

01:56

how about a 3 way tie

technically not allowed

01:56

but if it loops enough it's a draw

Isn't there a difference between a draw and a tie. I can't remember what it was.

tie all players alive win draw all players lose except those who met their win condition like ua

Ah

cool

02:01

i just wanna play the next game realsad

realsad

Ethan

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Lmfao

Daredevil

It's a whole JoJo episode

Coincidentally watched that jojo episode today lmao

I know

Wait light is killing snivy

02:52

Which scenario is this

02:53

what

02:53

its a devil win

02:53

HA

02:53

NO WAYYYY

02:55

gaslighting ftw

Lmaolmaolmaolmaolmaolmao

Chimi

its a devil win

No its a wolf win

03:19

Mia will throw for wolves

How ?

Wait no

03:19

Soulkill

03:19

lol lmao

Soul kill Mia is over!

03:19

Lmao

honestly

I can’t believe this is the ending

03:20

Anticlimatic (edited)

Light should have realized it's better to stalemate than to act and lose

Where’s my infinite loop

Where is our day 20

03:20

We check back midway through june

lol

03:31

Snivy came to the wrong conclusion too

03:31

If you were ligjt what would you do chimi

I'd do nothing bc I love infinite loops (edited)

would you have thought of it

Chimi

I'd do nothing bc I love infinite loops (edited)

that is a coders worst enemy

03:43

crashes your code

Blame the coder not the code

03:44

The code is doing its best

Chimi

Snivy came to the wrong conclusion too

Tbf snivy doesn't know how many souls bass has

03:53

But I guess defaulted on bass having 0 souls

Tomorrow bas soulkills light and its a tie

06:16

Nvm light is SL

06:16

Soulless

thats a devil win

12:04

bass kills mia and wins

Yeap

12:04

Light threw by doing anything

12:04

12:07

Will vass remember to soulkill this whole phase? Let's find out!

God i hope bas pays attention

14:11

Pays-Bas mentioned.

Yay

14:22

Not my problem~

poor light is stuck alone in limbo basically

I love this

14:54

basssss please win

14:54

please please

Lame.

Stubborn Child

Lame.

why?

14:55

Bass helped me get my win

14:55

and a solo win is always nice

We helped you get your win too.

Easy easy bass just needs to do a soul attack

Shybie

Bass helped me get my win

Uhm

15:18

Bass was intent on soulkilling you if you didnt vote properly

“She”

16:11

I am not beating the allegations

rip

Oh no who did that I hope it’s not me

What’s devil doing

Devil wake up

Devil sleep through entire phase pleek.

Chimi

Oh no who did that I hope it’s not me

mia lol

Oh haha

i think i did before too

They are crashing out this shit is so funny

i dont even know whats happening at this point

18:34

its been going on for so long

Im so glad i died early tbh

18:38

@Host what is the difference in conditions between a draw and a stalemate?

18:38

And functionally

Scruffy

@Host what is the difference in conditions between a draw and a stalemate?

Draw happens when both parties would die when one tries to kill the other

18:40

Think of vanilla wolf and huntress

18:40

During daytime lynch, the two tie the lynch poll

18:41

At night, the wolf would die if it attacks huntress

18:41

Stalemate happens when there's no other way to kill each other other than the lynch

18:41

And lynch gets tied every day

18:42

In this case, devil who doesn't have a soul to use for soulkilling and a townsfolk

o

The Messenger

In this case, devil who doesn't have a soul to use for soulkilling and a townsfolk

Is there a difference for end of game scoring?

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Buhhhh I'm not sure about that

19:03

Haven't ran enough games to know that yet

Can thos game end in wolves lose everyone else holds hands and wins

Scruffy

Is there a difference for end of game scoring?

yup

19:12

in a draw, everyone alive gets a live loss and everyone dead gets a dead loss

19:12

in a tie, everyone alive gets a win and everyone dead gets a dead loss

19:13

in a draw, any unaligned who have already ascended also win

19:14

for the scores, anyone with a draw score gets their points with a factor of .7

19:14

in a tie, that's instead a normal factor of 1

Damn

19:26

@Vera in the case that Light realized killing meant he lost Town realized they would never outvote scum Bass realized soulkilling anyone meant he lost Would it have been a 3 way tie, or a 3 way draw?

19:26

Since using killing power as scum would lose the game and lynching could never happen

well its straight up not true bc soulkilling would make bass win immediately

Vera

well its straight up not true bc soulkilling would make bass win immediately

I mean as in the teams (hell/town/wolf) When sniv was alive

if everyone just gave up it wouldve probably been a draw (edited)

19:35

but im not host and im not making decisions for them

o

19:36

Ic thanks for the info

19:36

Weaponizes this in future games

19:36

-# (Really the situation for it to happen is so slim I'll probably never get the chance)

If everyone cannot act or realises they should not act it's a tie

19:57

See s3g2 www vs huntress tie

19:58

Www was still able to act but would've lost, since they realised this the game tied

20:01

If everyone gives up without knowing then yeah I'd say it's a draw

The Stoic

If everyone cannot act or realises they should not act it's a tie

So this COULD, at some point, have been a 3 way tie?

20:05

damn

I think so, yeah

20:06

But I don't think anyone did the full hell math to know for sure

Omg

20:42

It’s over

@Host @The Stoic has bot failed to process win condition?

I'll wait about 10min for ts to get on, if not then I'll end it

Might only reevaluate next phase change

20:45

A mid phase death doesn't trigger win conditions

that should probably be fixed

No that would break things

ah

I can’t wait for the next game

fascinating

uglysmile

20:45

Put this behind us

Deaths shouldn't trigger win conditions as that's not how we evaluate wins

It should re evaluate win conditions after every death, even if its mid phase (edited)

i can PLAY A GAME

remove everyones votes from the polls and end it (dont listen to whatever i say)

The Ferryman

It should re evaluate win conditions after every death, even if its mid phase (edited)

No it should not that would cause some wins we wouldn't want

It would?

it should re evaluate win conditions every hour

20:46

obviously

20:46

nothing could go wrong

<277156693765390337>

nothing could go wrong

something goes wrong

The Ferryman

I'll wait about 10min for ts to get on, if not then I'll end it

u could try phase nexting ig

Ff?

to end it properly

Yeah, e.g a fp could win if their last missing target dies before then at phase change

Isn't that the intended outcome

No

no

20:47

bc bot kill order

It's a fp loss

like if ass killed fp and wolves killed last unenchanted

20:47

and wolfpack kill got put first in killq

Oh I misunderstood what ts was saying

it would register as fp win

We consider all stages of phase change before reevaluating win cons

but shouldnt

Though I can add a command to manually reevaluate win conditions

thatd be good

Would take like 3m

would devil win here even if phase change lynched it?

20:48

is there a win order like executioner in mafia

<277156693765390337>

would devil win here even if phase change lynched it?

No

Ok I'll phase next

No

me: would phase nexting here give the right outcome ts: no luffy: okay ill phase next

Oh I missed that

20:49

Ok what should I do

how many souls did he have

The Ferryman

Ok what should I do

run $reevaluate

Just Mia

how many souls did he have

one

20:51

the perfect amount

so he didnt protect himself

@Fairer Kid you did it

i assumed 0 and he protected himself just in case so in case shivy uses soul he gets it on time to kill me pepesadsip

pepesadsip

your many valuable contributions won the game

Just Mia

so he didnt protect himself

Why would he? It's passive protection

Just Mia

i assumed 0 and he protected himself just in case so in case shivy uses soul he gets it on time to kill me pepesadsip

pepesadsip

devil and demon get autoprotected

The Ferryman

Why would he? It's passive protection

wait its passive

20:52

no idea i didnt read devil bio

<277156693765390337>

devil and demon get autoprotected

oh

kind of real

cat_standing

The Stoic

Would take like 3m

i delivered

my life's aim is to simplify the devil desc to be readable

and thats with my pc turned off

20:53

new command any% wr

real

i just didnt care enough to read it when its basically town lose

okay well this was the worst game ive ever seen

20:54

even though I do know that s1g6c and like s2g1 have it beat, easily

went crawling through the logs bc this reminded me of the best ever win https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/749351548357967893/750804543964577865

21:01

i believe the only game we've had where the only non-ascension winner was dead

One of my first games

well its because the IA winner is not tracked as a winner

I remember that

goood job mia <3

Jay was like "don't you f*cking soul kill me" on the last day (edited)

War is over

21:07

Did bass not realize he’s won

I'm free

lol

Buff devil that was miserable

21:09

I couldn't do anything

You won

I was trapped in my own hellscape

The Ferryman

You won

I think I would have been excited in popping off if I won 3 days ago but now I'm just exhausted

lol

21:10

Should’ve stopped the game when you had the chance

Bird Chaser

Buff devil that was miserable

currently discussing devil in #deleted-channel

Bird Chaser

Buff devil that was miserable

lmao

21:12

funniest statement on this server

Will you play again this season ts

oh no, my role is so weak that I was able to win the game on my own after being exposed on Day 2

21:13

but nobody was able to kill me for like 7 days straight

The Stoic

oh no, my role is so weak that I was able to win the game on my own after being exposed on Day 2

Not the role that was the player skill

‍⬛

21:13

Don't forget I did the same thing with flute team

21:14

New meta incoming

uh I had the outcome as a hell win as far back as when I was alive

meta from 11 seasons ago coming back

The Stoic

uh I had the outcome as a hell win as far back as when I was alive

Don't be a hater just say good job

21:15

realsad

I don't think you did anything exceptional nor did you have opportunity too

21:15

you should've died early in the game as you got exposed quickly

21:15

but your role is so insanely powerful that nobody could kill you

21:16

So I understand why the experience was boring

21:16

Devil is best when it stays hidden and can act from the shadows the entire game

its like that one time luffy complained about reaper? i think being very underpowered when he was winning

The Stoic

but your role is so insanely powerful that nobody could kill you

My words made that happen just like flute game

Vera

its like that one time luffy complained about reaper? i think being very underpowered when he was winning

admittedly reaper has a lower base strength and higher max strength

21:17

whereas devil is just consistently always extremly powerful

Bird Chaser

My words made that happen just like flute game

not really!

Vera

its like that one time luffy complained about reaper? i think being very underpowered when he was winning

I don't think a solo should have that little agency especially late game

nobody could afford to kill you, we know that the entire time

The Stoic

not really!

L hater

Bird Chaser

I don't think a solo should have that little agency especially late game

Devil has the most agency of any role

Bo

21:17

You're wrong

You simply were limited in your options as you got exposed so early

Nope

Feel free to disagree with what's fact

The Stoic

Feel free to disagree with what's fact

Go recalibrate them you might be out of touch

thats very uncalled for

Are you trying to take ddd's spot of the unreasonable antagonistic annoying person?

asking the person who made the most roles if they're out of touch is a new low tbh

Like im not giving an opinion, I'm describing how the role has worked for like 8? years

21:20

over tons of games

21:20

And it didn't work well in this game

The Stoic

Are you trying to take ddd's spot of the unreasonable antagonistic annoying person?

Ya I miss him

Me too

Did you ban him?

I don't think he is banned

he's not

I had no way of knowing all I know is that he was thrown out of the game

21:22

I don't even know why

Gamethrowing

Bird Chaser

I had no way of knowing all I know is that he was thrown out of the game

he's still in the sidebar?

OMG

21:26

BASS WON ALREADY

Can't believe this game is over

ITS

21:28

OVER

21:28

FINALLY

I barely even remember playing at this point

omg

21:30

finally at the end of the tunnel

21:30

freed from limbo

I think the biggeest issue is that devil can control their own handling at day @The Stoic

21:30

Like they are such a hot coal to touch

21:30

If they feel they will lose they will launch an intercontinental ballistic missile to your team instantly and u lose

yea

21:31

demon was way too much imo

Especially harmful for town

hell team was far far too powerful in this game

Bass being outed d2 and winning goes hard

we knew bass was devil back when I was alive which feels like ages ago

21:31

but genuinely nobody could do shit (edited)

The Stoic

we knew bass was devil back when I was alive which feels like ages ago

Like a week ago in real time

21:31

4 days and a hald

21:31

Crazy

congrats arch bass and sharl for the win

Sharl got handed the win mostly because town wanted to reduce scum votes and it was either sharl has the win or eventually gets dragged to us losing

21:32

wanted to remove that variable before wolves could threaten ASAP

If you lynched bass instead of arch

21:33

It would be very different

We didnt know tha pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

21:34

What if arch was devil

21:34

Pro epic gaming town win

well it was a 50/50

21:34

at that point we hadn't read bass as devil

21:34

that was only in that night iirc

21:35

i mean pretty much like I said back then it was the 50/50 on arch being devil that would either mean we could win (arch is devil) or hell would win (arch is demon)

Scruffy

Bass being outed d2 and winning goes hard

This is the second game where I've been out at day two and won

yeah that's a design problem

21:44

we're working on this one

21:44

idk the other one

The other one was flute

21:45

Both sides tried to force the other to be the one to kill flutes and then flutes ended up winning

@Bird Chaser congratsss

The Ferryman

Both sides tried to force the other to be the one to kill flutes and then flutes ended up winning

you and Leila iirc

21:57

Dennis and I were on the wolf team

21:57

in VIP

i am so incredibly scared of devil every time i played with it

21:58

saying its a weak role is crazy

its by far the strongest role there is

you're unkillable at night

21:58

and town doesnt want to push you at day

21:58

out of fear of getting nuked

i have suggested a series of buffs and nerfs: https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1376998240209080421/1377011291331498055

last time we managed to snipe devil and even then only got lucky cause ddd had unforseen circumstances right at phase change

21:59

and another time wolves were getting owned and then insta-won when devil nuked 2-3 towns before hanging

i think sniping is a bad mechanic and should be avoided

feels like the only thing you can do vs devil sometimes

yeah thus I propose removing day soul killing

Aleeeeeeeeex

and another time wolves were getting owned and then insta-won when devil nuked 2-3 towns before hanging

Wasn't this @MatMeistress

22:04

That was far too funny

it was yeah

"Oh ur pushing me"

22:04

kills 3 towns

22:04

"Ok byeee"

yeah kingmaking is bad too

lmfao

it was the game where you just randomly wager killed no?

Aleeeeeeeeex

it was the game where you just randomly wager killed no?

As priest yes

that pissed me off so bad

22:05

i still remember it

22:05

lmao

so kingmaking and sniping are two reason to remove day soul killing

Aleeeeeeeeex

that pissed me off so bad

Well it ironically ended up being a good play since TT formed out of it

22:06

And I got value out of my

yeah you killed me

22:06

mf

lmfao

mat nuking town was just karma

22:06

Hey

22:06

RNGesus chose you

22:06

Not me

22:06

i think it was just turtle scumreading me

22:07

you killed me the night after the incident

No i literally did $roll ^ soulkill this person

22:07

yeen

it was also when sharl helped us win as UA then got nightkilled during ff (edited)

(by us)

22:08

lmao help

The Stoic

we're working on this one

I did it twice though

The Stoic

yeah thus I propose removing day soul killing

Lots of other proposals should be made as well I think a full revamp is in order

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Bird Chaser

Lots of other proposals should be made as well I think a full revamp is in order

uh, no

22:15

it's the most well liked role

Ethan

3/13 Hell win 2/13 Hell/Town tie 4/13 Town Win 4/13 Wolf Win (Made 1 mistake)

Lmao clearly the people playing the game weren't the only ones who went insane this is a giant giraffe what were you guys cooking up

The Stoic

it's the most well liked role

It might not be after this game lol

22:18

We hit that 3 and 13 though

22:18

Doing a probability graph is crazy

Bird Chaser

It might not be after this game lol

probably unlikely to drop because of one game even if it sucked this game

I agree keep it but tweak it

or well it might trade around with #2 or so but not like we can get accurate data (edited)

Bird Chaser

I agree keep it but tweak it

literally what we are doing!

Pog

we should do another survey, but nobody can be bothered to rate all roles, lets be real

I can do it and then it'll be solely based on my opinion.

22:27

Which is a good compromise.

Offseason tweaked devil game

The Stoic

we should do another survey, but nobody can be bothered to rate all roles, lets be real

And I haven't played enough roles do rank them all

22:46

Was this a season game?

unclear

22:47

no?

22:47

it got downgraded for sucking I think

22:48

work hard and one day you can have graphs as fucked up as this

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22:48

(vera)

WP 3.3%

22:48

poor things

Pog Graf

The Stoic

work hard and one day you can have graphs as fucked up as this

It looks vary nice

actually even now, dennis has more tracked games (edited)

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22:50

about 20 or so more than vera

What are the two ‘other’results

swurtle moment and ddd

Scaredycat

What are the two ‘other’results

1x Endured 2x Invalid/Unk. for Vera

who ping

Scruffy

"Ok byeee"

Endured

Yeah

23:34

The game is being demoted of an offseason game

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… we’ll get to have another one for this season to close it out

The Messenger

The game is being demoted of an offseason game

thank you for the effort regardless ❤️

1

23:36

@The Ferryman too

Thank you, sorry it turned out like that

i forgive you luffy'

Who is Dennis

how does one explain dennis

link an scp foundation page (idk who dennis is)

he was a key figure in the succession war of 2021

the succession war of 2021

00:06

btw ts can i get duck icon and if not can i get rodent icon

00:06

with my item

uh do you have it

im level 25

if so remind me tomorrow I wanna go sleep

sure

i mean I wont but still

Aleeeeeeeeex

the succession war of 2021

Wait you mean there was someone before TS?

dont ask me ive been here for like 1 full season

Bird Chaser

Wait you mean there was someone before TS?

here's the full short history of ww(r) drama Randium created an old server in 2017 and ran S1 then left, transfering ownership of the server to another (inactive) person Other GMs joined through S2 including marhjo (Mark) and me. Throughout S2 and S3 we pretty much setup all the things the server was using, such as bot, rating system and rule book. I also created Mini Wolves. first succession war So at some point we collectively asked if we could get ownership of the server as we had made every aspect of it at this point. Instead of saying no or yes or any other reasonable response they decided to ban/kick/demote the entire gm team which was a wild decision, so marhjo and me created this new server and the rest of the gm team joined we ran it for a while. Vera eventually became admin as well. The old server was then at some point deleted since everyone moved over here, I guess? second succession war marhjo and I lost interest in the server. He got inactive and I left, Jay became Admin to replace me. At some point he decided (?) he didn't actually like any of the other people on this server (?) [citation needed] and transfered ownership to Dennis, which was extremly random as he was not even an Admin. Dennis then transfered ownership to one of the other Admins after a while (edited)

00:22

hope this helps

The Stoic

here's the full short history of ww(r) drama Randium created an old server in 2017 and ran S1 then left, transfering ownership of the server to another (inactive) person Other GMs joined through S2 including marhjo (Mark) and me. Throughout S2 and S3 we pretty much setup all the things the server was using, such as bot, rating system and rule book. I also created Mini Wolves. first succession war So at some point we collectively asked if we could get ownership of the server as we had made every aspect of it at this point. Instead of saying no or yes or any other reasonable response they decided to ban/kick/demote the entire gm team which was a wild decision, so marhjo and me created this new server and the rest of the gm team joined we ran it for a while. Vera eventually became admin as well. The old server was then at some point deleted since everyone moved over here, I guess? second succession war marhjo and I lost interest in the server. He got inactive and I left, Jay became Admin to replace me. At some point he decided (?) he didn't actually like any of the other people on this server (?) [citation needed] and transfered ownership to Dennis, which was extremly random as he was not even an Admin. Dennis then transfered ownership to one of the other Admins after a while (edited)

How are you back then if you left and back in power and what happened to Dennis

I think I left for a year or so and then came back

00:24

And idk dennis is just chilling

00:25

He was an extremly active player on mini wolves in the golden era of mini wolves, that's why he has the most games on record of anyone

00:26

he was a gm for a year after until 2022 or so and then got too busy I guess

@Bird Chaser thank u for winning

00:29

Also at one point town tried to snipe you and they missed one person so they tied instead

00:29

What luck lmao

Oh yeah I'm free now

01:05

Seriously please don't leave me alone like that again why do I keep getting into these last-wolf situaions

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I did suspect Bass had one more soul left but I wasn't sure, especially since a misplay there means town auto wins

01:07

Well I did a lot of misplay and as soon as the other wolves were gone I didn't have anyone to discuss with (read: beg for a plan)

The Stoic

here's the full short history of ww(r) drama Randium created an old server in 2017 and ran S1 then left, transfering ownership of the server to another (inactive) person Other GMs joined through S2 including marhjo (Mark) and me. Throughout S2 and S3 we pretty much setup all the things the server was using, such as bot, rating system and rule book. I also created Mini Wolves. first succession war So at some point we collectively asked if we could get ownership of the server as we had made every aspect of it at this point. Instead of saying no or yes or any other reasonable response they decided to ban/kick/demote the entire gm team which was a wild decision, so marhjo and me created this new server and the rest of the gm team joined we ran it for a while. Vera eventually became admin as well. The old server was then at some point deleted since everyone moved over here, I guess? second succession war marhjo and I lost interest in the server. He got inactive and I left, Jay became Admin to replace me. At some point he decided (?) he didn't actually like any of the other people on this server (?) [citation needed] and transfered ownership to Dennis, which was extremly random as he was not even an Admin. Dennis then transfered ownership to one of the other Admins after a while (edited)

This story is wild

sounds about right for a discord community this big

"Big"

01:35

I guess fairly big active members yea

01:35

I was also there during the succession wars

01:35

Randium, ubq, spikedcoffee who else

i mean it's a pretty big community

01:36

its just that the admins put in so much work that it feels it should be 10 times bigger

The Bright Kid

Seriously please don't leave me alone like that again why do I keep getting into these last-wolf situaions

We are free from hell

I was just a sub, dying as a sacrifice instead of devil a day later, ???? and win

Get substituted, ???, profit

05:16

Ironically arch and sharl were the biggest winners

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The Stoic

here's the full short history of ww(r) drama Randium created an old server in 2017 and ran S1 then left, transfering ownership of the server to another (inactive) person Other GMs joined through S2 including marhjo (Mark) and me. Throughout S2 and S3 we pretty much setup all the things the server was using, such as bot, rating system and rule book. I also created Mini Wolves. first succession war So at some point we collectively asked if we could get ownership of the server as we had made every aspect of it at this point. Instead of saying no or yes or any other reasonable response they decided to ban/kick/demote the entire gm team which was a wild decision, so marhjo and me created this new server and the rest of the gm team joined we ran it for a while. Vera eventually became admin as well. The old server was then at some point deleted since everyone moved over here, I guess? second succession war marhjo and I lost interest in the server. He got inactive and I left, Jay became Admin to replace me. At some point he decided (?) he didn't actually like any of the other people on this server (?) [citation needed] and transfered ownership to Dennis, which was extremly random as he was not even an Admin. Dennis then transfered ownership to one of the other Admins after a while (edited)

he didnt wanna give it to me bc he knew id demote him wahaha

08:34

he didnt wanna give it to jay bc jay is my friend

08:34

so the only gm he really "trusted" was dennis bc dennis was his friend!

08:36

i got ownership back at some point bc he apparently trusted me again (edited)

08:36

6 days later i demoted him for severe inactivity (he hadnt hosted, played or had any input in roles or server upkeep in months)

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