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Werewolves Revamped

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Dead & Spectators

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This channel is for dead participants and spectators. A complete role list can be found at the top of this channel.

17:29

Players | Total: 16

17:29

yes

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CultMember

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- @WEPC New President Fox (Cult Member) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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duckgive

- @Head of Propaganda (Scared Wolf) yes

yes

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Child

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- @COYOTE Hacker Wallace(they/them) (Child) yes

yes

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Pyromancer

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uglysmile

- @COYOTE Explosives Expert Joey (Pyromancer) yes

yes

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AuraTeller

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‍

- @Security Officer Elena (Aura Teller) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Cat Lady Candace (Citizen) yes

yes

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Firebug

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- @WEPC President Werewolf (Firebug) yes

yes

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CultLeader

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- @Head of Weapons Development (Cult Leader) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Middle Manager Midas (Citizen) yes

yes

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TrackingWolf

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- @Head of Research (Tracking Wolf) yes

yes

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- @Head of Public Safety (Greater Coyote) yes

yes

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CorruptWolf

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- @COYOTE Leader Spencer (Corrupt Wolf) yes

yes

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Cupid

| ✂️ - @Mafia Boss Charlie II (Cupid) yes

yes

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- @Head of Space Program (Lesser Coyote) yes

yes

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Runner

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token

- @Top Manager Beatrice (Runner) yes

yes

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Stalker

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- @2nd Head of Urban Development (Stalker) (edited)

Subway Operator pinned a message to this channel. 14-12-2024 17:35

i like how we saw how runner going for monarch is not a great strat last time so we're doing it again this game

well it is austria

22:29

so yeah

Top Security Officer

i like how we saw how runner going for monarch is not a great strat last time so we're doing it again this game

no no it will work the second time

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317528929208238171/1317605029569364092

22:34

how naive

22:35

the fools dont realize im hosting (i didnt have any say in the UA but i totally wouldve been pro cupid)

Best UA is none

None [Unaligned Miscellaneous]

Technical Role

Basics

The main goal for the None is to ping the Game Masters, so they realize they forgot to assign a role to the None. After night 1, the None may choose a Game Master to kill each night.

Details

The None is a rare role that is theoretically possible to gain, but should seldom appear in games, since it is only obtainable via the bot being broken, or the Game Masters forgetting to assign a role. The None can win with any team except the wolves, even if their win condition is to kill all others. Killing a Game Master is an end effect.

true!!

Head of Robot Resources

no no it will work the second time

it might, but runner is not a great role for monarch

22:38

I like how jay is basing logic on my influence on the role list

22:38

But they should know I did not influence the role list really

22:40

please dont tell me wolves will be attacking runner again

Top Security Officer

please dont tell me wolves will be attacking runner again

they did not last time actually

22:41

keep up SMH

22:41

(they attacked the medium)

ah

22:41

yeah I have no clue

Top Security Officer

it might, but runner is not a great role for monarch

I was being sarcastic lmao

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317528942093013082/1317674256766599249

03:07

OH GOD

03:07

oh wait its a coyote

03:07

still WILD PLAY

03:07

ohh kay they arent outing stuff

03:08

based on wolfpack stuff i thought they were gonna out things lmao

ROUGH tracking wolf check

@Mafia Boss Charlie II you can NOT catch a break what the HELL

bruh.

11:35

literally bruh.

motherfucker really

12:26

okkkkk.

Security Officer Elena

motherfucker really

the gods of $roll

13:37

BABE ITS NOT MY FAULT

13:37

BOTH TIMES

oh damn

03:09

that slip in cc is crazy

03:13

damn vera

03:13

pop off queen

rules are rules

amen to that

hes lucky ghost is coyote

very very lucky

this might get wolves and coyotes connected now

lucky smh

Yeah that slip was crazy

XD ghost

lmao

poor snivvy

03:26

fighting a losing battle

i feel kinda bad for him but the rules are written out

it'll end up being maybe good for em

he's getting so worked up even tho its the best person he couldve slipped to

dramatic irony or whatever

true

03:38

lmao

03:38

he'll come to terms with it

i wonder what ghost is gonna do w this info now lol

i really hope ghosts realises what it could mean

03:39

cult seems to be killing ghost rn tho

i thought jay warded ghost

omg

03:39

thats amazing

03:39

firebug in action

03:39

i really hope they stay on their targets

yuh

03:40

thatd be a W

it'll get cl killed if they stay on ghost

03:40

that'd be an insane turn of events

woop woop

sniper, poke and turtle lol (edited)

10:54

imagine if wolves kill kruthers lmao

yeah

10:54

cult member attacks right?

10:54

not CL?

no always CL

or is it CL

10:54

ok

The cult’s attack is an end-night ability and is always reactively executed by a Cult Leader.

thank you!

all good

uhh doesnt lightpulp die too?

10:55

or did i make a mistake

10:55

gahh

10:57

turtle, austria, wolfpack kill, sniper

10:57

WHY did i have lightpulp down as powdered

10:57

PHEW

Yay I died.

11:10

Just kidding.

11:10

Sad.

11:10

But, I don't have to fake-claim anymore!

@Head of Research btw GC was in the random list

Yes, so good we attacked Child.

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317529053783134218/1318166063585689642

11:42

guys host meta is notoriously unreliable

11:45

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317529053783134218/1318161461461127209 i feel like i kinda gave away its firebug with this message, but it WAS my mistake not doing the cult kill earlier so it was much easier for him to miss that he didnt attack, so i dont think itd have been fair to not point that out to him imo

Syntax error. Not enough parameters! Correct usage: players [get|get_clean|set|resurrect|signup|list|msgs|msgs2|log|log2|votes|rl]!

11:47

Syntax error. Not enough parameters! Correct usage: players [get|get_clean|set|resurrect|signup|list|msgs|msgs2|log|log2|votes|rl]!

11:48

Players | Total: 16

11:48

yes

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CultMember

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- @WEPC New President Fox (Cult Member) yes

yes

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ScaredWolf

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duckgive

- @Head of Propaganda (Scared Wolf)

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Child

| ❤️‍

- @COYOTE Hacker Wallace(they/them) (Child) yes

yes

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Pyromancer

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uglysmile

- @COYOTE Explosives Expert Joey (Pyromancer)

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AuraTeller

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‍

- @Security Officer Elena (Aura Teller) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Cat Lady Candace (Citizen) yes

yes

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Firebug

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- @WEPC President Werewolf (Firebug)

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CultLeader

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- @Head of Weapons Development (Cult Leader) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Middle Manager Midas (Citizen)

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TrackingWolf

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- @Head of Research (Tracking Wolf) yes

yes

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- @Head of Public Safety (Greater Coyote) yes

yes

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CorruptWolf

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- @COYOTE Leader Spencer (Corrupt Wolf)

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Cupid

| ✂️ - @Mafia Boss Charlie II (Cupid) yes

yes

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- @Head of Space Program (Lesser Coyote)

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Runner

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token

- @Top Manager Beatrice (Runner) yes

yes

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Stalker

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- @2nd Head of Urban Development (Stalker) (edited)

first try

Office Aquarium Fish

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317529053783134218/1318161461461127209 i feel like i kinda gave away its firebug with this message, but it WAS my mistake not doing the cult kill earlier so it was much easier for him to miss that he didnt attack, so i dont think itd have been fair to not point that out to him imo

no that's correct

Head of Robot Resources

no that's correct

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317529053783134218/1318166538536222720

12:29

i meant to link that message

MarkdownContext { Depth = 1 }

12:30

eh seems fineeee

12:30

krem would have seen eventually

yeah i dont think its the biggest issue even if i theoretically shouldnt have

It's a very very minor mistake

12:31

plus it has to be pyros for that many kills in the list I think

ye

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317528929208238171/1318189265808654376

13:16

bro i didnt even CONSIDER this

13:16

host META

13:16

i literally typed it up without thinking about the causes or anything

no its just deduction

13:18

tho

13:18

yea host meta wdym "reads like a ... kill"

13:18

ugh

They could confirm Stalker if they put 1 vote on light only, and then ghost dies anyways

Yeah town is fucked

15:28

Losing AT First night and cult leader the next?

15:28

GGs lmao

15:28

I lost twice in as many days

15:32

Also I definitely should've revealed later when the lynches were more threatening, revealing so early just kind of doomed me and potentially another town in a lynch

15:32

Lessons for next time

Oop I dear

17:34

I can't tell if I played poorly

17:34

Or just got rnged

17:34

Because so many people can just murder me

17:37

I did probably play a bit too hard for an evil

17:38

My read on shape was correct though

or nvm lol

18:27

did i die or did i get swapped out

18:27

oops

18:27

mb

you unfortunately responded in the same second we started the substitution

18:28

this was epic timing

my fault

18:28

it's alright

We started subbing you at :25 and you replied at :26

LOL

18:28

it's ok

ohh wolves are going good this game

20:33

with krem trusting alex

Krem trusting Alex is completly understandable with Jay's slip

yeah exactly

The cit lynch seems unlucky

kinda sad how krem is taking so many things into account like "x role couldd be dead" but forgets that AT could also be dead

Top Security Officer

The cit lynch seems unlucky

its extremely unlucky bc 2/4 cit claims are actually scum

But he is correctly certain on one cit

up

20:36

it was a 2/3 chance to lynch scum but he chose wrong

Yup

genuinely so sad to see

20:37

interested to see how this is gonna turn out

Vera

kinda sad how krem is taking so many things into account like "x role couldd be dead" but forgets that AT could also be dead

I think he might assume two fake ATs is unlikely

20:37

What did ghost do to get mayor BTW?

20:37

Claim TP?

well there's not much else that scum can claim

20:38

yeah

20:38

well

20:38

they were sus of him first

20:38

but he got warded

20:38

and that means he could still be hooker

20:38

something along those lines

Alexs n1 check was genius

it was way more convincing tho

20:40

the scum read on jay + alex's more believable check

20:40

this is honestly such a good AT fake, considering the situation

Yeah

20:40

Also snivys slip was accidentally genius too

yup

20:41

if only they would just act on it

20:41

bc wolfpack is already pretty sure ghost is coyote

20:42

not revealing the cc gives away that ghost is wolf

During this day they don't really need to risk it yet

no other team wouldve kept something like that hidden

They should at night

yeah they're gonna do it during the night i think

20:42

they were talking aobut it in pack earlier

Love how wolves are confident Jay is real at

20:44

Means Jay may live

do you think jay might self ward?

They might again, but wolves shouldn't attack Jay

well they wont attack ghost

Since that would expose Alex

thats true

20:45

they'll probably attack krem tbh

20:46

it's the easy town trusted attack

Also not too difficult to predict

if jay protects krem thatd be suicide bc krem is so set on jay as scum, jay will get lynched the next day

20:47

tho im not sure if jay has noticed that

20:47

jay did notice that they slipped really bad

20:48

ohhh monarch revealed

i am not sure jay noticed that krem absolutely didnt buy it at all

20:51

its funny that nobody figured out why jay knew CL yet

20:51

but also completely understandable

wolves theorised it

did they?

but they of course knew more to it

20:51

yeah

ah I thought they were convinced jay was AT

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317529066664103988/1318223454788386896

20:52

yeah seemingly they now think jay is AT

20:52

but they had that at first, when jay posted the role list in town square

20:53

which is really good deduction from alex again

What's the logic for not letting light pulp prove themself by having a difference of 1 vote between him and ghost

because they literally havent thought of that

21:13

did light even claim stalker and claimed who they stalked?

21:15

+ they think hooker is more likely bc theyre currently electing ghost

Vera

did light even claim stalker and claimed who they stalked?

Yes to both

Subway Operator

What's the logic for not letting light pulp prove themself by having a difference of 1 vote between him and ghost

well it would mean missing a lynch

21:32

but anyways,t hey're way more set on ghost anyways i think

21:32

+ ewwwwww confirmable

21:32

+ its something you thought of, doesnt mean it's something other people in the game will think of

It wouldn't miss a lynch, if light was fake he'd die, if he was real then ghost would die

;stalkerr

❗ Could not find role stalkerr. Did you mean stalker?

21:35

Stalker [Townsfolk Power]

Basics

After Day 1, the Stalker may assign two extra invisible votes to a player in the current day’s lynch poll.

Details

After Day 1, the Stalker may threaten a player. That player will have two more invisible votes against them on the daily lynch poll. These additional votes are not revealed, instead the threatened player may win the lynch even if they dont have the most votes. The threatened player is not informed that they are threatened. Threatening a player is an immediate day ability.

well for one, light would have to come up with it themself

21:37

bc the rest of town square is just fully set on ghost being the actual tp

21:37

it's not neccesarily the first tactic that'd come to mind either

Idk if it's that difficult to think of, I thought of it instantly, but I guess town didn't so probably not

there's a bunch of newer players who have never played with stalker

21:40

stalker is also not on the list

21:41

so newer players will definitely not think of it

Though tbh I'd never put hooker on a list where it can be immortal

21:50

Only use it with horseman or plague or ig devil too

that'd be host meta

21:51

so they wouldnt be able to deduce that

thats just role list analysis?

21:53

or at least concluding that lack of roles that can kill makes hooker less likely

yeah thats fine

21:58

but not "luffy would never put hooker in a list where it can be immortal" wouidnt be (edited)

Top Security Officer

Alexs n1 check was genius

Who?

23:28

What

Vera

yea host meta wdym "reads like a ... kill"

yeah i was pretty sure he was referring to the fact i listed 3 kills and then 1 kill but i only did it like that cause of sarv's name and stuff

Top Security Officer

The cit lynch seems unlucky

town has 3 extra votes and theyre lynching 2 town members

23:30

this is kinda avoidable tbh

23:33

plus yeah them not trying to do like a 4 5 vote split on ghost and lightpulp is a bit yikes

Hiii

YAY I GOT MY "dies" MESSAGE RIGHT BEFORE PHASE CHANGE

you both did

01:01

so peak

We both died tho

Oh what the fuck

01:03

OH WHAT

Hm?

for the record lightpulp

Yeah they killed two towns LOL

you could have proven yourself

01:06

if you got a vote to 3/4 or any 1 number difference with the 3 being gh0st and the 4 being you

01:06

your 2 votes would push it to 5/4

01:06

and prove you while killing your CTC

Not really with monarch heir in play

i mean yeah that makes it a bit riskier but its also worth noting that monarch and their heir are within the town

01:07

and you couldve at least brought it up

01:07

which wouldve had the town members play around it

01:07

The fact the votes were so unanimously against me also meant even werewolves agree with the lynch choice

Plus it wouldn't just confirm you, it would also confirm you as fake if u were fake

2nd Head of Urban Development

The fact the votes were so unanimously against me also meant even werewolves agree with the lynch choice

obviously werewolves agree, the bad part is that town agrees, and town would work around it if you had said the idea so

Subway Operator

Plus it wouldn't just confirm you, it would also confirm you as fake if u were fake

An assurance Kremlin definitely wishes they had rn lol

i mean its fine i dont mean to come off as rude or anything

01:13

its just a play i think wouldve worked for sure

No no, I'm learning

01:13

What were misplays that I did? Considering the Stalker role

im very surprised no other town members thought of it either

2nd Head of Urban Development

What were misplays that I did? Considering the Stalker role

probably claiming at all tbh LOL

Awww

01:14

So from the very start huh

or at least claiming the whole uhh "i work after day 1 i can prove myself" and then not in fact proving yourself

Tbh u did fine

yeah it wasnt a MASSIVE issue or anything

01:15

its just that saying youre gonna prove yourself and then not doing it is a bit sketch

01:15

imo

01:15

also the fact it alerts wolves that they can kill you to stop it but hey they didnt do it anyways, and it could be a double bluff for hooker so /shrug

Public claiming a 1x Role is never really bad if ur not that useful of a role (edited)

stalker is SO useful

Office Aquarium Fish

or at least claiming the whole uhh "i work after day 1 i can prove myself" and then not in fact proving yourself

I thought I couldddddd

Office Aquarium Fish

stalker is SO useful

Town certainly didn't think so lol

Everyone's so active in their other channels too

01:17

Maybe I should have CC'd someone

i like to use up my CC limit

That always never hurts

See

01:18

I didn't even know

01:18

Firebug

Subway Operator

That always never hurts

unless you pull a snivy on the wrong target

Was a thing

But I could be falsely claiming to wolf

2nd Head of Urban Development

But I could be falsely claiming to wolf

you dont HAVE to claim

01:18

you could join in on the MrrFiish trademarked strategy of asking to do 3 for 3s

01:18

where you give 3 roles you could be and ask for 3

01:18

it gives minor info and gets talking going

01:18

but doesnt really 100% out you

Didn't u get that strat from somewhere else

you could also simply LIE

Subway Operator

Didn't u get that strat from somewhere else

yes i stole it from BOTC meta

I could be were wolf Scared wolf Or corrupted wolf

LMAO

Head of Weapons Development

I could be were wolf Scared wolf Or corrupted wolf

based

01:19

next game im pulling that out

It's so easy to lie in a 3 for 3s though

Head of Weapons Development

I could be were wolf Scared wolf Or corrupted wolf

i told alex i was something like "royal knight/assistant/gallant fox" last time i did it

01:20

i wasnt lying i was royal knight

2nd Head of Urban Development

It's so easy to lie in a 3 for 3s though

yeah thats fine

01:20

still gets more excuses to talk to people

That's fine???

i dont see why not

01:20

just dont believe everything they say at face value

I'll never do 343 with u

I guess that does solve my biggest issue which is that I had absolutely no one to talk to

Subway Operator

I'll never do 343 with u

(the coward's path)

01:21

why NOT luffy

Then suddenly everyone's against me

luffy hates me

01:21

Cuz it's not helpful to town and ill always try to pretend I'm town

it can be helpful though thats where youre just wrong

01:22

what if i make scum believe im a powerful role when im not, the opposite, or i find someone in town that i trust

I keep my info in trusted circles only

(the coward's path)

01:22

plus that game specifically, i died and alex was able to show that i had at least said i was RK at some point in a chat with him

01:22

granted it was in a 3 for 3 but it showed the claim existed

Subway Operator

I keep my info in trusted circles only

thats also just boring

01:23

so like

01:23

Krem still murdered me

unlucky

Accidentally

01:23

LMAO

lol

If I knew firebug was a thing

01:24

I wouldn't have attacksd

01:24

Cause that is like the obvious target there

U didn't know it was a thing or u didn't know what it did

Both

01:25

I thought they were both just tos arsonists

01:25

LMAOOO

well theyre different roles (firebug and pyro) (edited)

Head of Weapons Development

If I knew firebug was a thing

WWR final boss:

Image attachment

surely they cant both be the same thing

Office Aquarium Fish

WWR final boss:

Sticker

Swurtle

Click to see original message

thanks swurtle

id do a 343 with swurtle

Subway Operator

surely they cant both be the same thing

True

Subway Operator

id do a 343 with swurtle

coward

01:26

you hate me

01:26

343?

he hates me swurtle

exchange three roles thing

01:26

three for three

02:01

XDDD bro had one job

Oh lmao

uh oh did i heir scum?

11:27

also my initial read on light was rught dammit

11:28

ut he really wasnt provable woth monarc and somenone mentioned a werewold role that gives extra votes?

Cat Lady Candace

uh oh did i heir scum?

yup

fun

Cat Lady Candace

uh oh did i heir scum?

Everyone in-game is scum except for Krem.

Cat Lady Candace

also my initial read on light was rught dammit

lmao

12:03

sp no town win

12:03

why did i trust that silly duck just cuz ex cult told mr too T-T

They lynched two town

12:15

Lol

12:16

I wish I managed to point out that "having this many votes against me means that werewolves agree with lynching me, which they wouldn't do if it was pack"

12:17

Also if you backread the dead spectators had a good plan for checking stalker

yeah but we had already cobsidered that remember?

12:58

but the possibility of monarch or a wolf with an extra vote interfering made us give it up quick

That's easy, just ask monarch to change heir to lightpulp, and lightpulp will NOT vote in the lynch poll

13:00

Easy only because YOU are the monarch

but like what if we were team wolf and i was monarch and used it to cover your lie

13:04

thats already what they were thinking

13:04

i hope duck doesnt realise that only heir gets an extra vote

13:04

idk if we have a chabce either way tho

Head of Research

Everyone in-game is scum except for Krem.

lmao what

Alive Players | Total: 7

- thekremblin (@WEPC New President Fox) duckgive

duckgive

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Head of Propaganda)

- shapechange (@WEPC President Werewolf)

- kruthers (@Head of Public Safety)

- nottinghamshire (@COYOTE Leader Spencer)

- steinator (@COYOTE New Recruit Barret)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Head of Space Program) (edited)

wait that's crazy

13:23

R.I.P krem, comitted yeenocide, now kremocide follows

OH MY GOD GIVING KREM REPORTER IS SO EVIL

14:05

HE WILL SEE ALL OF TOWN IS DEAD

P U R G A T O R Y

krem is gonna quit wwr forever once he sees the reports

Why krem no understand

18:43

Why is KREM not the UNDERSTAND

poor krem

18:44

surrounded by scum

18:44

awaiting the sweet release of death

18:45

cant wait to see their reaction

18:45

the epic reveal

i feel really bad for krem

@WEPC President Werewolf bro jay town is GONE

01:01

theyve BEEN gone

01:01

theyre DECEASED

01:01

(except for krem)

LOL

01:03

VINDICATION

01:03

get fucked krem

01:03

(sorry krem ily)

01:03

thats so funny though

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1318163960662593536/1318730262816755793

01:03

CHAT

01:03

POOR KREM

01:03

WHY DID THEY GIVE HIM REPORTER

01:03

ITS SO EVIL

im so glad im here for the live reaction

the realisation that my dumb words killed more town than my dumb powders

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1318163960662593536/1318730441628581971

01:04

what even is this gif

WEPC President Werewolf

the realisation that my dumb words killed more town than my dumb powders

cupid hits AT N1

01:04

from a $roll

01:04

wolfpack $roll hits AT

01:04

both die

01:04

it all went downhill from there

01:05

Image attachment

actually being right about ghost and alex being wolves is so funny to me

01:07

im literally town mvp

01:07

name a town more mvp than me

WEPC President Werewolf

actually being right about ghost and alex being wolves is so funny to me

you missed snivy slipping that they were corrupt wolf on accident in gh0st's CC

WEPC President Werewolf

name a town more mvp than me

alex

saying something like "no corrupt tonight right"

Vera

alex

REAL

Office Aquarium Fish

you missed snivy slipping that they were corrupt wolf on accident in gh0st's CC

wait where

and then them never acting on it

snivy slipped and got angry

WEPC President Werewolf

wait where

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317674252975210577/1318037139736367114

01:08

the best part is gh0st is a coyote

01:08

and they literally never acted on it

if they act on it now, they'll win in the morning

HILARIOUS

01:08

OHHHH MY GOD HILARIOUS

genuinely such a funny game

nvm i fucking love this game

im enjoying this so much

i killed so many people

01:08

it was so fun

01:09

firebug is legitimately a great role bc it spreads kills out way more

i love how you went "wow town is powerful" and it just got steamrolled

Kremlin is powdered so they can win tonight

maybe, and i dont say this lightly, best solo role

Vera

i love how you went "wow town is powerful" and it just got steamrolled

the thing is

01:09

town should 100% have won this

01:09

based on the list

true but they got FUCKED

but everything that could go wrong went wrong

Vera

i love how you went "wow town is powerful" and it just got steamrolled

yeah my favorite part was jay constantly talking about powerful town as i watch with a 1000 yard stare as town gets obliterated

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

1000 yard stare cat

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WEPC President Werewolf

but everything that could go wrong went wrong

they also definitely couldve played better in some ways imo

01:11

AT/cupid dying N1 is pretty rough though

thats pure bad luck

yeah

01:11

it was quite literally a $roll for cupid and a $roll for pack on AT (edited)

it's like the night of jayanna all over again

01:12

the phase that got us to delete bard

WEPC President Werewolf

it's like the night of jayanna all over again

i need an explanation

#gamelog-s7g1 but it doesnt do it justice

I think firebug was a success and Coyote not so much

jayanna was bard and got targeted by something like three or four actions during the first two phases

Subway Operator

I think firebug was a success and Coyote not so much

not to be blunt luffy but coyote being unsuccessful was the fault of the list and not the role

WEPC President Werewolf

jayanna was bard and got targeted by something like three or four actions during the first two phases

whats bard do

01:15

isnt it like

01:15

be targeted by 3 actions and win

01:15

lmao

beard

01:15

bard narrated actions that got done to it

01:15

then it got revised to only narrate some things

Beard

then it got deleted bc it sucked

Subway Operator

Beard

yea, bear bard

The truth revealed!

01:15

Sweet catharsis!

anyway since im gonna pick up like 5 million points from the reset game hopefully thisll be enough for season bronze

WEPC President Werewolf

anyway since im gonna pick up like 5 million points from the reset game hopefully thisll be enough for season bronze

im scammed cause thatd have gotten me gold or whatever

01:17

if i was in it and did okay

oh its okay

01:18

we're gonna rank os11c

01:18

11?

01:18

12

silver not gold

partial ranking tho

or maybe it was gold

01:18

i forget

01:18

the admin cabal made me GM to stop me from climbing the ranks

fish can u dm me the rating sheet link

WEPC President Werewolf

we're gonna rank os11c

YIPPEE

it's in #goomgle-sheets

what the fuck is no access

or gm guide goomgle sheets

01:18

or smth

01:19

i cant mentiont the channel bc i dont have access

01:19

but it's got the word goomgle in

01:19

thanks

wait that isnt public is it

01:19

idk

01:19

no wait it is

01:19

im cool like that

01:19

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IVgVdjChyEnbiGS6LJrgVmtfaZLPnj2NouJPSy-Em0s/edit#gid=0

01:22

@WEPC President Werewolf why am i witnessing the ranks change what are you pressing

buttons, presumably

yeah im pressing buttons

01:23

(im removing the weights of all seasons except s12 to see what the badges are)

thank god

My talking perms

WEPC New President Fox

thank god

them giving you reporter is EVIL krem

torturing u

i have to say i was really close to leaving the server out of annoyance and the only thing stopping me was the fact that it would be an inconvenience to everyone

01:25

im still mad

yo

Head of Space Program

My talking perms

suffer

muting this now x

01:26

tell me when the game's reset

Damn

01:26

I subbed into a lost cause

k!hug krem not that that bot is here

My loss rates already over 50%

01:26

i think

my winrates like 30% LOL

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

I subbed into a lost cause

u subbed into a beautiful friendship

thats true

i burnt down the tavern and all

01:27

first and last time we'll ever be solo together

WEPC President Werewolf

based on the list

Can someone explain a clueless guy why this is? What had the deck stacked in Town's favor?

ong

Office Aquarium Fish

my winrates like 30% LOL

Count yourself lucky. Mine is something around 20%

U won now

After losing the last game (edited)

You won

01:28

but died

01:28

I dragged you down with me

Ggs

Going with you back to the pits of hell from whence your pyro self was born

01:29

But yeah

I got murdered by my own cult member

01:29

At least now I know what

01:29

Pyro thingy does

01:29

Or firebug

01:29

One of the two

WEPC President Werewolf

actually being right about ghost and alex being wolves is so funny to me

i also said kruthers was a wolf

01:30

he cced me

01:30

said hello

Head of Weapons Development

Or firebug

Firebug changes into pyromancer

and dipped

kek

Head of Space Program

Firebug changes into pyromancer

Yeah I thought they both were arsonists variants

01:30

LMAOO

WondisimoMagnifico

Can someone explain a clueless guy why this is? What had the deck stacked in Town's favor?

sure!! i gave a quick explanation in my sc ( #firebug ) but here goes 1. aura teller is a very strong invest, so it needs to be given certain role combos (claimable town killing roles, wolf/solo roles that don't ping as threats) in a list to be balanced. this list didn't have that; it had the most provable town killing role, cult leader, and only one non-threat scum, lesser coyote 2. this list had very little claimspace, especially for solos. cult leader and member weren't claimable; pyros couldn't claim the town power role, and usually wouldn't claim aura teller either. the two areas of claimspace - two citizens, two TM - didn't offer very much cover. 3. the pack was very small because we had coyotes; coyotes are designed for much larger lists than this. this meant that pack and coyotes wouldn't have been able to coordinate claims, which would usually mean they contradict each other and get found easily

my honk went unanswered

Head of Weapons Development

I got murdered by my own cult member

LMAO

WEPC President Werewolf

sure!! i gave a quick explanation in my sc ( #firebug ) but here goes 1. aura teller is a very strong invest, so it needs to be given certain role combos (claimable town killing roles, wolf/solo roles that don't ping as threats) in a list to be balanced. this list didn't have that; it had the most provable town killing role, cult leader, and only one non-threat scum, lesser coyote 2. this list had very little claimspace, especially for solos. cult leader and member weren't claimable; pyros couldn't claim the town power role, and usually wouldn't claim aura teller either. the two areas of claimspace - two citizens, two TM - didn't offer very much cover. 3. the pack was very small because we had coyotes; coyotes are designed for much larger lists than this. this meant that pack and coyotes wouldn't have been able to coordinate claims, which would usually mean they contradict each other and get found easily

its ok my mad scientist infecting wolf game will be more balanced

i cant wait for that

01:31

it can be the jayme

what the hell is a jayme

the jay game

is it you playing or hosting

01:31

well i gathered that

jay themed gayme

oh

i have ten tokens so i get to make hosts theme a game after me

lmao

WEPC President Werewolf

LMAO

Yeah I didn't wanna kill but krem was like we should

01:32

So I was like

01:32

Sure

honestly quite incredible

I love gambling

01:32

What's the worst that can happen

jay remember when we tried to set up a theme

the actual play for cult in this list would be to claim D0/1 and collect tbh

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

jay remember when we tried to set up a theme

german apocalypse

01:32

of course i remember

01:32

that was hell

setting that shit up was awful

WEPC President Werewolf

the actual play for cult in this list would be to claim D0/1 and collect tbh

I wanted to collect earlier on but krem said they would just cc us

01:32

I was like

the amount of redos

Okay then we

01:33

Murder them

01:33

LMAO

and having like 7 of them in the bot

Head of Weapons Development

I wanted to collect earlier on but krem said they would just cc us

nah

Really fun game

bc pack and coyotes were split

Really hard to confirm any role though

True

01:33

Not my best performance

01:33

Oh well

u were hilariously townie

Can someone link the infamous slipup

yah its up above

there were 2 of those

WEPC President Werewolf

u were hilariously townie

I was trying to appear as cit

Office Aquarium Fish

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1317674252975210577/1318037139736367114

.

Head of Weapons Development

I was trying to appear as cit

it worked!! really well!!

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/585943528249491468/1318388509400104960

unfortunately i then slayed u

I did my job. Subbed in. Somewhat active. Did my actions. Ended the game in style.

Ahahaha

town lost due to cl and at ealy deaths I think

Comedy gold

in the list town was incredibly strong

Nah they lost due to double lynching town

It just snowballed

01:35

Was the issue

yeah but they'd have had better info if at lived I think

well

AT actually found a threat N1

town lost due to MEEEEE

Well there was 2 non town claiming at so idk about that

WEPC President Werewolf

town lost due to MEEEEE

pftttt

at shouldnt have been rolled

proud of you jay

thanks babe

their own fault for being unlucky

So true

Cult dying was skill though

let me have a game where i don’t die d1

Mafia Boss Charlie II

let me have a game where i don’t die d1

I will join that game just to kill you n1 (edited)

love you too stein

<3

<3

Subway Operator

Cult dying was skill though

i initially thought "cult might attack ghost for maybe being hooker", then i realised wolves were more likely to attack ghost if lightpulp was scum, so i gave that as my reason. BUT I WAS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME

Mafia Boss Charlie II

let me have a game where i don’t die d1

i crave it

Yeah and I got lucky that they decided to protect me that night instead of lightpulp

i think that ward might actually be what lost town the game

also wolves got lucky

I need a solo game again where I play but everyone forgets i exist

snivy slipped to ghost

01:37

and that connected them

We didn't act on it

but it didn’t connect

what

it just sat there

01:38

and rotted

why not

anyway yea firebug is my new fave role

Head of Robot Resources

why not

bc ghost just uhhh forgor

We knew but things were going fine as is

@WEPC New President Fox yeenocide is paid by

I was prodding them all game XD

@Host get the subs in here

Head of Robot Resources

why not

snivy didnt corrupt anyone once and gh0st was waiting for corruption

01:38

LOL

pffffft

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

@Host get the subs in here

idk how

You are surrounded by 2 hot people, 2 people in fursuits and 3 furries

1. Read the docs 2. If it doesnt say then get someone to do it

I think just unsubstitute them

I gave subs perms now

hi @Substitute

Lol sup

01:40

How did wolf win quick

Well

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I has arrived.

Pyro?

They stinkied

Yeah, that game was speedran

Town got steamrolled by town, wolf and pyro

So glad i am a sub lol

This game so few ccs compared to usual

I subbed into a game where town decided to lynch 2 towns

Had*

Same arch. That lasted like, a day

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

I subbed into a game where town decided to lynch 2 towns

tbf i got kal lynched

01:41

like we cant really blame town for that

01:41

that was me

01:41

sorry yeenus

That was Jay

Head of Propaganda

This game so few ccs compared to usual

Because there are more groups from the start, we had cult, corrupted, wolves, pyro, etc

01:42

Town square was so empty so there was no way for town to have info on who to trust for cc

01:42

That was my experience, at least!

It's fine they can trust me instead

what's the most amount of triggers you can get on a firebug in 1 night I wonder

01:42

5?

As head of propaganda I strive to have absolute transparency and never lie

this aged well

Image attachment

How did cult get attack warded, just have CM vote and not CL lol

Jean D. Arch

How did cult get attack warded, just have CM vote and not CL lol

CL always attacks

Jean D. Arch

How did cult get attack warded, just have CM vote and not CL lol

cl always attacks

cm killed cl goated

CL always executes

they DID do that

Ohhh

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

this aged well

Ok so I was actually going to add everyone to it

wow we all just killed arch

If Krem died

arch just got hit by 1000 cuts

What's with GMs not knowing roles

(edited)

Lmao, fishes first game was a slaughter!!

Head of Robot Resources

What's with GMs not knowing roles

(edited)

in my defense i just got GM smh

Head of Robot Resources

What's with GMs not knowing roles

(edited)

average gm moment

i know every role

unless you dont

(i also didnt know CL always attacks i knew it was one of them but thought it was CM)

WEPC President Werewolf

i know every role

blessed wolf

i even know the special upcoming roles

01:44

like fisherman (coming 2026!)

WEPC President Werewolf

i even know the special upcoming roles

oh my god

Office Aquarium Fish

(i also didnt know CL always attacks i knew it was one of them but thought it was CM)

I thought it worked like mafioso and gm do in tos

yes

and judge

Immortal

fisherman (coming 2026!) is so hype

SURVIVOR COMEBACK?!?!?!

one day ill make judge

Let’s go fishing!

i must be the only person in this chat to ever have been immune survivor

judge should be a jury member

Head of Robot Resources

judge should be a jury member

NO

Trueeee

Off-season game where instead of plague team there's duck team

the whole point is so i can have a JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER GAME

I am sure minis had people as immune survivor

Head of Propaganda

Off-season game where instead of plague team there's duck team

ill literally do this

Functions effectively the same but instead of diseases they give ducks to everyone

WEPC President Werewolf

the whole point is so i can have a JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER GAME

never letting that happen sorry babe

okay 32 2l bottles of diet coke fiend

WEPC President Werewolf

the whole point is so i can have a JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER GAME

can we have a defence attorney and prosecutor role so we can have a whole court case? (edited)

prosecutor is already a maf role

WEPC President Werewolf

the whole point is so i can have a JUDGE, JURY, & EXECUTIONER GAME

where is the attorney, wittness, accused and prosecuter

so probs not

ive already planned my next offseason game and its because ive heard of these roles but never seen them cause they havent been used in 54 billion years

WEPC President Werewolf

okay 32 2l bottles of diet coke fiend

CHILL

Damn quick game lmao

like the coke?

Image attachment

01:46

my babies

gib

01:46

I NEED IT

actual fucking horror movie shot

non

Mafia Boss Charlie II

Click to see attachment 🖼️

what the FUCK

Judge Ability - when someone says something dumb, they judge it so hard until the person dies.

Head of Propaganda

what the FUCK

this isnt even the first time

ok chillllll

01:46

the other time it was like pre covid prices

👁

Judge Ability - when someone says something dumb, they judge it so hard until the person dies.

Oh god I would die so easily if I wasn’t that role lmao

HOW COULD I SAY NO

I CANT CHILL ABOUT THE COKE

Coal Will u ever play again

@WEPC President Werewolf if you know every role what does savant do?

WHY IS THERE NO WHITE COKE

Subway Operator

Coal Will u ever play again

i’ve been coerced

the powder

Head of Robot Resources

@WEPC President Werewolf if you know every role what does savant do?

she sav on my ant til i werewolves revamped

so yeah

Try to live longer next tjme

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

the powder

waiting for that to get pre covid prices too dw

lmao I just checked it's just the savant from BOTC

Subway Operator

Try to live longer next tjme

i’ll try my best

Was this the last s12 game

both times literally weren’t my fault

Head of Propaganda

Was this the last s12 game

might have os12d

Head of Propaganda

Was this the last s12 game

Last on-season game at least

probably we'll start s13 in the new year

o okay

offseason at most

Thief

so it depends if we have a game before then or not

Thief

HellCard

mayhaps

Christmas or new years themed off season game?

That was a game..

No Swurtle moments

Congrats guys

Yoooo not-very-corrupting wolf (edited)

@Head of Propaganda u did very good omg holy

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

No Swurtle moments

Cuz I wasn’t in it… sob

sob

I think os12d is in jan

Swurtle

Cuz I wasn’t in it… sob

sob

no i meant for the next game

give people tome for crimmus

Head of Robot Resources

I think os12d is in jan

thats what you might think

Head of Propaganda

Yoooo not-very-corrupting wolf (edited)

I choose my own role and this game I chose sneaky wold

Head of Robot Resources

I think os12d is in jan

nah

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

no i meant for the next game

I can try…

first game of 2025 will be s13g1

Head of Robot Resources

give people tome for crimmus

no crisis time only wwr time (edited)

Was ghost not a coyote?

COYOTE Leader Spencer

I choose my own role and this game I chose sneaky wold

It's illegal to point out a grammar mistake after it was fixed

01:49

You gotta be faster

ghost was killed by my fire

Ghost was coyote

Omg that’s so funny

WEPC President Werewolf

first game of 2025 will be s13g1

argue that with Ts

Minus the short time where I thought jay was AT

01:50

All of our reads were correct

also I think we need more time to finish stuff

We knew each others roles and was in limbo the whole game in the pokegaymon cc

Except kruth/stein/Kal where I had no idea

Head of Robot Resources

also I think we need more time to finish stuff

NO

01:50

he will do it all in the next week

Ok I sleep I need to wake up for border control soon

Head of Propaganda

Except kruth/stein/Kal where I had no idea

I mean my predecesor had a total of 13 messages of which only 3 were public

we still got 22 issues

so like

Is firebug tested enough now, it finally didn't die immediately

Head of Propaganda

Ok I sleep I need to wake up for border control soon

Sorry???

Subway Operator

Is firebug tested enough now, it finally didn't die immediately

no

01:51

it needs a few more games

you cant have an idea when it comes to me

Hello

@Head of Propaganda where you going?

Home

¿

Romania

aso

I think

Yep

I wanted to say romania

01:52

but like

01:52

I didnt wanna say somethig wrong

Isn't it convenient that my tiny ass town in Romania has a direct connection to Vienna

although I always say something wrong

Head of Propaganda

Isn't it convenient that my tiny ass town in Romania has a direct connection to Vienna

that do be hella noice

01:53

gl getting that sleep

01:54

can I set fire to dead-spec?

1

COYOTE New Recruit Barret

hi @Substitute

hi

Hi coyote

02:06

Why were there barely any cc this game woah

02:06

Did the cc meta die

COYOTE Leader Spencer

Why were there barely any cc this game woah

With limited ccs people only make them if they have to

Hm

well

02:16

gg i suppose

WEPC President Werewolf

sure!! i gave a quick explanation in my sc ( #firebug ) but here goes 1. aura teller is a very strong invest, so it needs to be given certain role combos (claimable town killing roles, wolf/solo roles that don't ping as threats) in a list to be balanced. this list didn't have that; it had the most provable town killing role, cult leader, and only one non-threat scum, lesser coyote 2. this list had very little claimspace, especially for solos. cult leader and member weren't claimable; pyros couldn't claim the town power role, and usually wouldn't claim aura teller either. the two areas of claimspace - two citizens, two TM - didn't offer very much cover. 3. the pack was very small because we had coyotes; coyotes are designed for much larger lists than this. this meant that pack and coyotes wouldn't have been able to coordinate claims, which would usually mean they contradict each other and get found easily

So what my peanut brain is understanding here is: 1) Aura person had little to work with or add to the town due to who the particular bad guys were in this instance. 2) There wasn't enough secondary roles for the bad guys to pretend to be townspeople with which made them easier to point out in the long run. 3) The bad guys had Teams A and B who didn't know about each other and were bound to trip up on each others lies and out themselves. And so the townies had plenty to work with and are not or did not use any of it. That sound about right?

2 and 3 totally right - AT was actually very strong, but died early so didn't get any use. you're pretty much spot on!

Office Aquarium Fish

it was quite literally a $roll for cupid and a $roll for pack on AT (edited)

A roll for ghost cc as well lmao

WEPC President Werewolf

2 and 3 totally right - AT was actually very strong, but died early so didn't get any use. you're pretty much spot on!

I'm smrt

N1 rando wolf kill is either a big jackpot (like AT this game) or flop really bad (hit solo or packless) theres no inbetween

Jean D. Arch

N1 rando wolf kill is either a big jackpot (like AT this game) or flop really bad (hit solo or packless) theres no inbetween

AT + town cupid, even

WEPC President Werewolf

2 and 3 totally right - AT was actually very strong, but died early so didn't get any use. you're pretty much spot on!

OK hold on, I re-read it and now I get it. The AT should've been able to point fingers in the right direction and make the game even easier for town but they died too fast and so the townies just went kaput.

Oh wow I was expecting a couple of more phases at least

wdym

wait we got points for the off-season game?

Sometimes they can be weighted 0.5 or 0.25.

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