Werewolves Revamped

S12g7 | CC 1 / duck_meets_swurtle

@Draek has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Draek @Elbio

hello

11:32

you are wolf

11:32

i am warlock

Oh hi Alex

11:33

Glad we already met up won’t leak pack info unless pack wants me to

of course

11:33

you dont have to tell me what pack will claim, just tell me who to check and what to claim myself so our claims dont clash

11:33

tyt and discuss with pack

wait did you not attack

uh I voted random one other pack member said yeah let’s do random although gave a vague reasoning for someone else but vote that person instead of random…

14:03

wasted

ok so you did attack

14:03

and got idiot/hooker

14:03

ain't no way clerics used ability n1

No we failed

14:04

Poll was tied

wait

14:04

bruh

14:05

you know what

14:05

one of you could claim hooker/idiot now (edited)

Good idea

14:06

Wait or runner

Townsfolk Miscellaneous

Alcoholic

Alcoholic

Assistant

Assistant

Amnesiac

Amnesiac

Bartender

Bartender

Child

Child

Citizen

Citizen

Coroner

Coroner

CursedCivilian

Cursed Civilian DevoutVillager

DevoutVillager

Devout Villager FortuneApprentice

FortuneApprentice

Fortune Apprentice Idiot

Idiot

Idiot

Journalist

Journalist Macho

Macho

Macho

Ranger

Ranger

Runner

Runner

TownCrier

Town Crier

Trickster

Trickster

14:06

Runner [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

Once per game, if attacked by a wolfish player, the Runner shall escape.

Details

When they are attacked by a wolfish player, the Runner will not die, but will be vulnerable to future attacks. If a Runner is targeted by any attack other than by a wolfish player's attack, they will die the first time. Runners are informed that they were attacked. If a Runner evades a wolfpack attack, the wolfpack is told their target ran away. If a Runner evades any other attack, the wolfish player responsible is informed instead.

14:06

Idiot [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

If the Idiot dies for the first time, they instead live, but lose their voting power.

Details

The first time the Idiot is lynched, attacked or killed, they will survive. However, the Idiot loses their vote and is informed about this. If the Idiot is Mayor, they will still have their Mayor vote.

yo

14:06

if you have sab wolf

14:06

you can have someone claim idiot

14:07

or not sab

14:07

the one that gives -1 voting power

Corrupt

yes

14:07

and it's "confirmable"

Is sniper pack

No

@Draek what are you gonna claim when it’s time

You tell me what options I have

16:45

I don't want to double a wolf claim

huck's not wolf is he?

21:41

Town (8) Apothecary x1 Cleric x2 Aura Teller x1 Town Miscellaneous x3

huck (runner)
sniper (runner)

Any x1 (edited)

21:41

if i find aura teller tonight ill claim fortune apprentice

21:41

otherwise i might claim aura teller

Draek

huck's not wolf is he?

No

22:28

Uh claim one of the any or tms slots that’s what the pack thinks is best

uhhh ok

22:29

wait why

Draek

wait why

Cuz someone in the pack wants to claim at using your info

aight

22:36

do you have cleric claims

We’ll have someone claim cleric

okay

22:36

ill do herald or something

22:37

let me see what i find in night phase

Sure herald is good

not staying awake until phase chance though ill check when i wake up

22:53

let me know who

Got it I’ll tell you who to check

Ok turns out I'm here at phase change who needs rest

@Draek check sarv

Aight

Turtle wasn't wolf right?

Draek

Turtle wasn't wolf right?

He replaced one

Well he got lynched

01:05

Bruh

01:06

N2 already uphill battle

@Draek lmk when you find out warlock results

I asked

01:11

I hope I get them soon

01:11

Huck seems to be horse unless you guys sabo'd sniper

01:12

His war doom claim is pretty solid

01:12

I doubt there's 2 runners

Draek

Huck seems to be horse unless you guys sabo'd sniper

We didn’t

At least they don't have a town lead

We could try to work with honse maybe

Pls get a kill tonight give_duck

give_duck

01:14

Uhhh

01:15

We can just let horse live for now

01:15

See if anyone dies to death tonight

01:15

O

01:15

SARVAK IS WAR

OH

I have no idea what to do with that information

01:15

Tell me what pack decides

01:16

I'm off now

01:16

Don't attack horses yet imo let town have more hang targets

Got it

town is clowning on wolves so much this game

14:07

what did you think krem was

14:10

also what are your reads on honse

14:11

nobody died tonight but i really think there's a death horse in the game since runner + double cleric so huck might be death horse who found sarvak n1

14:11

we know sarv is war

14:14

or huck could be angel or something idk

Draek

or huck could be angel or something idk

Huck could be despot

Despot [Unaligned Miscellaneous]

Basics

If the Despot is elected, they win. The next day, the election will be cancelled.

Details

When the Despot wins, the Despot ascends and stops playing. The game continues. The Despot may strongly disguise themself as any role. The disguise is applied immediately. They can update this disguise once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Despot wants to. If the Despot changes role, the disguise is lost. The Despot is nonaligned.

cannot be despot

Wait nvm can’t be

would have ascended

I think Huck is honse

i am quite sure it's not double runner

14:17

so honse / angel / rh

14:17

no

14:17

cant be rh

14:17

wouldnt claim runner

14:18

if horse do we think triple horse or just 2

Draek

if horse do we think triple horse or just 2

It’s just 2 the other one is a uam

im trying to read the interactions between sarv and huck

14:20

did anyone on wolf team get doomed

14:20

im not doomed

Draek

im trying to read the interactions between sarv and huck

huck finding sarv n1 as death is really unlikely so i'd think he's famine if he's any (edited)

14:22

really wish we found the any town last night

14:22

i would just publically claim herald

14:23

ask pack what they think, i might still do it

14:23

its only risky of the true town any can confirm themselves

14:23

or already has

14:24

point is getting reporter

14:26

could try to push sniper and if he hangs say he was last runner and make huck a target for next lynch

ok if sniper hangs today ill publically claim herald tomorrow and say he was last runner

17:18

and get huck to hang

17:19

if huck is UA and not horse (we'll know soon) i'll cc him tomorrow

17:19

if he's angel ill ask him to kill someone for us

17:20

can a wolf try to get reporter

17:23

just to make sure, im the only packless right? @Elbio

17:23

is sniper 100% town (edited)

huck can no longer be horse

17:32

double doomed is the easiest thing to confirm with war around

17:33

either he's angel trying to get hung or runner

please tell me austria is fake cleric

Draek

just to make sure, im the only packless right? @Elbio

Yes

okay im sure huck is scum now but sarvak really shouldnt be putting himself out on the front lines

If sniper gets lynched here that will be good

yeah

22:09

but i need to claim town after

22:10

idk if i want vote to come from me

22:10

if huck is horse then sniper dies and they hang huck tomorrow (edited)

22:10

if huck is angel he dies but takes ddd/fish/sniper down with him which is not bad

22:10

and then i can push sniper myself by claiming herald

we're gonna need last pack to vote for you though

Draek

we're gonna need last pack to vote for you though

We have a corrupt wolf they corrupted themselves -1….

22:26

Trying to do a trickster/idiot claim

oh god

Corrupt Wolf [Werewolf Power]

Basics

The Corrupt Wolf can manipulate a player's votes in the next day's public polls.

Details

Each night, the Corrupt Wolf may select a player and a number of votes (-1, 0, 1, or 2). The next day, the selected player has the chosen vote value instead of their usual value. The number of votes replaces the player's vote, it is not additive. However, the Mayor retains their extra vote. Manipulating a vote is immediate. The Corrupt Wolf may manipulate a member of the wolfpack. The Corrupt Wolf may also communicate with their chosen player in a whispers channel. The Corrupt Wolf is a lycan and also part of the pack. The Corrupt Wolf is not affected by redirections.

also TK is/was direwolf right?

22:27

there's no way you have alpha wolf and didnt kill n1

Also corrupt wolf will vote on Austria if she beats me

22:28

Or ties

so pack is

22:28

you kathy

22:28

and arch/sunny?

It’s me fish and sinisfuel and turtle was in there too

FISH IS PACK?

22:29

that's actually crazy

Fish is knowledgeable wolf, sinisfuel is corrupt, and turtle was direwolf

okay direwolf death wasnt that bad (edited)

22:30

can we just make a cc now

They didn’t know I said what the other wolves are fish didn’t want me telling but uh I had a hard time keeping info from you

22:31

this is why people don’t tell me shit in wwr

fortunately i am warlock

I know I trust you but fish is like you don’t need to know who pack is yet wasted

wasted

i can create the cc myself or i can let you save face for one more day lmao

Hold on I can try to save the situation

anyway

22:33

sarvak is glazing huck really hard

22:33

and they're both really for austria

22:33

so idk what to think

22:34

we're gonna have to frame someone as trickster if sunny votes

Bruh I asked fish if I can tell you and he’s like ask why you would need to know

Draek

sarvak is glazing huck really hard

so there's a good chance huck's vote will count and he's claiming doomed as angel

Elbio

Bruh I asked fish if I can tell you and he’s like ask why you would need to know

cause i was this close to asking you to kill fish tonight

22:34

also timezone diff

Draek

cause i was this close to asking you to kill fish tonight

WAIT REALLY

hold on

22:35

ill give you my list

Ok

Town (8)
Apothecary x1
Cleric x2
- Austria
- DDD (?)
Aura Teller x1
Town Miscellaneous x3
- Sniper (doomed runner, UA/town)
- Huck (doomed runner, UA/horse)
- Sharl (child)
- Katy (trickster)
Any x1

Wolves (5)
Wolf Investigative x1
- duck (warlock)
Wolf Killing x1
- Direwolf or I'm MAD
Wolf Power x1
Wolf Miscellaneous x1
Any x1
- Swurtle (wolf)

Unaligned or Solo (3)
Any x3
- sarvak (horse of war)
- huck (horse of death(?))

For sure not pack:
- DDD
- Fish
- Sarvak
- Huck
- Sniper
-  Me

For sure pack:
- Swurtle
- Turtle

Left: 
- Austria
- Sin (probably pack)
- Kruthers
- Kal
- Katy (probably pack)
- Sharl
- Arch

(edited)

22:35

this was my reads

22:36

for sure not pack: fish

22:36

cause

Ah

HE DIRECTLY CONTRIBUTED TO TURTLE DYING RANDOMLY

22:36

I JUST REALIZED

Lmao

22:37

@Draek KATY IS TRICKSTER

how'd you find ouit

Fish

oh

22:37

wait

Idk how he found out

since we have corrupt wolf

22:37

it makes sense

Trickster [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

On all public polls the Trickster's vote is counted as negative one.

Details

When the Trickster votes on public polls, their vote appears normally, however internally it is counted with the value -1. While they have the mayor's extra vote, the Trickster's vote is counted as -2 instead. Results of players that receive 0 or less votes are not displayed. If the Trickster loses their role, their vote will count as that of a normal player.

The knowledgeable wolf list had that in it hold on

katy is voting you btw this is really bad

22:39

reporter might get tied

Yeah trying to get sin to vote on Austria

not gonna help with huck has his vote

22:39

cause he's +2

22:39

it's still gonna be tied

FUCK

i mean as long as town doesn't get reporter we're kinda fine

Yeah

22:41

Oh here’s fish updated list

22:41

Town (8)

Apothecary x1 Cleric x2 Austria DDD Aura Teller x1

Town Misc x3

Child - Sharl Assistant x1 Runner - Sniper/huck

Town Any x1

Trickster - Katy

Wolves (5)

Warlock - Alex Direwolf - Mat Corrupt Wolf - Sunny Knowledgeable Wolf - Mr. Fish Wolf - Swurtle

Solo/UA

Horseman x2 War - Sarv Unknown - Huck Unaligned Miscellaneous x1 Also maybe huck

Claims

Alex - Herald Fish - Aura Teller Swurtle - Journalist

what roles did fish get at the start

Also the knowledgeable wolf info: 1x Runner 1x Trickster 1x Assistant 1x Child 1x Warlock 2x Horseman 1x UAM

OH

22:43

town any is TM

22:43

my herald claim is chilllllll

22:43

nobody can hard ctc

22:43

so sniper is confirmed runner

22:43

fairly sure huck is angel

Yeah we basically know the entire rl except what uam is which is either despot or rh

Draek

fairly sure huck is angel

Angel is uak

oh

22:43

okay okay

22:43

and huck is 100% not rh

22:44

ok

22:44

huck is horse

22:44

we got both horses

22:44

rh wouldnt claim runner

22:44

that's insanely stupid

Yeah that’s how we figured out Huck was honse lmao

that would have saved me SO much trouble

22:45

ok so sniper hangs if we do nothing

22:45

and then huck hangs tomorrow

22:45

ddd might be rh

22:45

sniper hanging would be really good too

22:45

and nobody gets rep

BRUH FISH DOESNT WANNA RISK MAKING A CC RIGHT NOW

22:46

wasted

i mean if i make it he has no choice but to work with me

22:46

thanks for trusting me in the most easily trustable situation

NP

we could have killed apothecary/assistant/uam aleady

He’s says he’s fine just slightly worried

if we lose this is on fish though

Well you can make the cc now I’m on mobile and discord mobile is doing a werid thing with me recently where it either erases the message when I move to another chat or keeps that message as I move to a different chat

aight will do

✅ Added @Timin to the CC!

backread to your heart's content (edited)

22:51

i cc'd swurtle the second i had a search result

22:51

on wolf

i see you flamed me for killing turtle

so we're almost sure huck is horse and will hang tomorrow and sniper hangs today cause of mayor double vote

in my defense i was afk and they sniped it???

it's pretty good for us

idk what im to do there

22:52

lol

why would you have a vote on a pack member in the first place

22:52

do you think we killed assistant apoth or uam

because i was tying the vote!! i didnt think thatd happen smh

22:53

anyways uh

22:53

no clue!

also my herald claim is really strong here

yeah for sure

22:53

i was gonna tell sniper im AT soon by the way

22:53

before he dies

ill say i was on runner cause the only people hanging were huck and sniper and sniper was runner

and for the record

22:54

the reason i said katy is trickster is because she left a cryptic message for her reason of voting

22:54

and we know theres a trickster

22:54

i think its pretty clear

no chance austria is rh and horses are pushing her for rep right? (edited)

you can also look at past votes and she didnt vote in them and they have normalish counts (war is messing with stuff)

Timin

you can also look at past votes and she didnt vote in them and they have normalish counts (war is messing with stuff)

fair

Draek

no chance austria is rh and horses are pushing her for rep right? (edited)

definitely a chance but i doubt it highly

also

22:55

we know for sure war exists

22:55

so sniper cant be trickster

yeah, no one who has voted can be

22:56

in past polls i mean

99% sure huck hangs tomorrow so we're safe for now

22:56

no clue what horse he is

ye

22:56

same

i think death

22:56

and he found sarvak n1

22:56

which is why there was no kill n2 (edited)

howd you gather he is horse?

huck?

yeah

uhhh

22:57

well

22:57

there's no angel

22:57

and he's 100% not town

yeah fair lol

can't be rh because he claimed runner

22:57

and wolves wouldnt attack runner claim

22:57

and he was voted mayor

22:57

so he can't be despot

22:57

also sarvak is clearly working with him

22:57

and we know sarvak is war

22:58

whether he's death or famine or pestilence we can be pretty sure he found sarvak early

i agree

it would be WILD if he was rh working with war horse

22:58

like there's just no way for them to find eachother

yeah lol

btw if he hangs tomorrow they get clerics

22:59

do we want to get rid of a cleric tonight

i think we check an apoth candidate and kill cleric if we dont find apoth

23:00

specifically austria who will be reporter, probably

are any of you going to claim apoth if we kill?

23:00

reporter vote is tied

huck has mayor

23:01

we have -1 they have -1 so right now theyre 1 up

wait

23:01

it's not tied

23:01

oh deer

yup

hopefully austria publically claims what krem was

yeah i hope so

do we try to push for swurtle one last time?

we could also try to get in her ear

23:02

im walking home rn if i do anything its when im home

i was going to wake up early and jog but ill stay for phase change

23:02

im too invested

so true my friend

23:04

@Elbio next time you tell packless the pack without consent at least tell us you did it

23:04

i wouldve said yes to the CC if you had mentioned you already told him pack

Timin

@Elbio next time you tell packless the pack without consent at least tell us you did it

raton

we wasted a CC for no reason lol

23:05

id rather know packless knows

i was so convinced you were town btw

23:06

Town (5) ##

Cleric - DDD Aura Teller - Arch Child - Sharl Assistant - Kruthers Trickster - Katy

Wolves (3) ##

Warlock - Alex Corrupt Wolf - Sunny Knowledgeable Wolf - Mr. Fish

Solo/UA (2) ##

War - Sarv Death- Kal

Claims ##

Alex - Herald Fish - Aura Teller

Dead ##

Apothecary - krem Despot - Sniper Direwolf - Mat/Turtle Cleric - Austria Runner - Huck Wolf - Swurtle (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 7-11-2024 23:06

btw

23:08

do i claim herald

23:08

right at phase change

23:08

before austria gives away reporter info?

uhh for what reason?

23:09

like whats it accomplish

if she publically says sniper was the real runner me claiming herald accomplishes nothing

23:09

the risk is getting doomed by death

ahh youre saying youre on runner?

it makes the most sense here

so you wanna give out that runner died pre-reporter info?

yeah

i like that

problem is

go for it

i was going to say

23:10

i was on apothecary

23:10

until now

23:10

cause it's the only 1x town role

23:10

and it makes sense

yeah

23:10

thats fine

no its a gamble

23:11

if we killed apothecary austria will see that

ahh you mean if apoth is dead

23:11

i see

we can do it like this

23:11

search for apoth first things first -> if we find i claim apoth is alive

23:12

austria getting reporter gets in the way of my claim

23:12

we could also be lucky and she doesn't say anything

23:12

it's gonna be obvious that huck is scum because of his votes

23:12

btw

who do you think apoth is by the way

this is what i don't understand

and yeah itll be clear, he also wontbdie

why is huck so aggro

23:12

with only 2 horses alive

23:12

by claiming double doomed he cursed himself to die soon

23:12

and let sarvak do this alone

yeah i have no clue

but i also dont see any world

23:13

where they're not teamed up in some way

ye

23:13

sarv has been silently following his votes too

Timin

who do you think apoth is by the way

uhhh

23:13

i'd guess it's someone quiet

eh

what will sunny claim btw

1) thats activity meta i think 2) i disagree of it being that indicative

i dont think its activity meta this late into the game and 600 discussions deep

23:14

cause like

23:14

apoth had the chance to come out and get repo

23:14

with a very strong claim

23:14

but didnt

23:14

so what are the chances they would draw aggro in any other way

Draek

what will sunny claim btw

trickster or cleric i imagine, if we lose the vote sunny needs to back off the vote and claim cleric so they arent hard confirmed to both be cleric

also

23:16

if i hit assistant

23:16

ill never know

ah right

Assistant [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Assistant may select a player to redirect one werewolf action to. The action cannot be an attack.

Details

The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. The Assistant may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Assistant is affected by a wolfish player's power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolfish player being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

well ill know if it lands on someone's confirmed role

though itd be pretty lucky id assistant hits apoth

Timin

trickster or cleric i imagine, if we lose the vote sunny needs to back off the vote and claim cleric so they arent hard confirmed to both be cleric

trickster claim clashes with both me and swurtle and swurtle already publically claimed

Command error. You are not an owner of this CC!

Oh right…

23:18

Sticker

Timin

though itd be pretty lucky id assistant hits apoth

we'd just think whoever we searched was apoth

23:18

when in reality they're assistant

23:18

it could well be the worst results

yeah

23:19

the odds of us hitting assistant and them hitting apoth is slim though

fair

23:19

thing is

23:19

nobody acted as despot

23:20

or rh

23:20

well

23:20

ddd randomly pushing me might be him trying to make enemies out of wolves (edited)

23:21

if we get arch

23:21

to vote swurtle

23:21

it would be amazing

Or sharl

sharl is zzzmimimi

uhhh

23:40

we're screwed

23:40

if they can read votes

23:40

right

23:40

with 12 people voting it's pretty reasonable that most wolves will be on the same side of the split

23:41

or do we just claim that wolves were probably trying to prevent reporter

Draek

or do we just claim that wolves were probably trying to prevent reporter

yeah and also sunny is on the other side too so hey

So realistically apoth is/was:

Arch
DDD
Kal
Kruthers
Krem

So 1/5 chance I guess wrong if I claim herald We can check one of the 4 remaining players which has a 1/5 chance to find us apoth, if I find one he's gonna be alive for sure and I can claim comfortably If I dont find one then I go down to a 1/4 to get it wrong which is worse

NOOOOO ARCH WHY!?

23:50

wasted

what if sniper is horse and huck is actually runner

23:54

thatd be wild

yea i mean

23:54

23:54

if huck is runner i still come out as herald

23:54

lmao

yeah

i just need hosts to process my check

23:55

really really fast

23:55

or before austria gets to post dead list

23:56

wildest would be

23:56

sarv being assistant

lol

sarv and huck ar both town

23:57

and we just lose or something idk

indeed

ok i have a 3/4 chance to guess apoth alive correctly

23:57

im going for it no matter the result i thin

23:57

its worth getting that influence

Timin

what if sniper is horse and huck is actually runner

cant be true

23:58

forgot because of how chaotic it's been

23:58

but we saw sniper's vote be nullified

23:58

on the last poll

23:58

sniper can only be UAM but even that would be wild

23:59

sniper despot (since he went for mayor d1) and huck actual runner

23:59

and then one of the last 4 is horse (edited)

23:59

Arch DDD Kal Kruthers

00:00

wait @Timin now that i write it out like that

00:00

huck really has no reason to claim double doomed as horse

00:00

and sniper did go for mayor on the first day

00:00

he claimed runner so wolves wouldnt kill him

00:01

the only problem then is sarv voting with huck

00:01

and siding huck

00:03

if huck is double doomed runner then the lynch vote will be tied and i cant claim shit

btw kruthers claimed assistant to me

LETS GO?

also why isnt sunny in here

00:05

add sunny

you demoted me

00:05

ok do i want to check

00:05

arch ddd or kal

00:05

there's a chance we killed honse too

that was in the other channel

00:05

you still have this one

oh

00:07

sinisfuel no>?

ye

✅ Added @Sandoval to the CC!

Draek

arch ddd or kal

what are we thinking chat

wha is this

pack

wolves chat + warlock

O

but i didnt realize you werent in here

00:08

lol

i didnt add you cause i didnt want to accidentally add someone else and then we started yapping

00:08

this game is a clusterfuck

meow

so right now:

huck horse (will be outed with votes)
sniper runner

huck runner
sniper despot
ddd/arch/kal 2nd horse

00:10

sarvak is working with huck against sniper

00:10

and sniper is the only confirmed doom within 2 days

thoughts on me claiming apoth today for reporter?

00:11

if apoth is dead thats HUGE and if apoth is alive then thats A BIT WORSE but ill still have a day of being alive while hogging reporter

00:11

since poison will take some time

will draw the other apoth out if they exist so i can claim herald in peace

00:12

do we need to though

00:12

should i jump ship

00:12

and vote for someone else

00:12

im increasingly thinking huck isnt horse

00:12

but runner

same lol

then the lynch being tied is good for us

00:12

you just pulled way too much aggro

yeah

00:13

do you think i should claim apoth @Participant

00:13

cause im down....

i think its a better clai mthan late ft, they'll just flame you for not coming out earlier

00:14

so you better have an excuse prepared

hmm

00:14

good point

00:14

wanting to not come out and die is fair enough of one i think but idk

i dont think you can get repo here

00:15

dont jump ship imo

00:16

huck and sniper are tied atm but huck will eventually die to death i hope

00:16

so that gets rid of runner

id agree at this point. im gonna stick to AT and say i had DDD as not a threat N1 to explain my insistence on trusting him

and if huck really is runner

00:17

and doesnt die

00:17

swurtle gets repo here

00:17

we're tied on votes but his votes don't count

00:17

but

00:17

if you agree with him you can't vote swurtle

00:17

can we maybe equalize votes

00:18

like

00:18

you say you trust huck now

00:18

and get off swurtle

00:18

nobody getting repo would be fine for us

00:19

if we stay the way we are swurtle gets repo the question is can we convince them none of us are wolves

00:20

also i dont need to claim herald yet if neither sniper nor huck hangs

uuuuugh

00:21

it ties now

ties reveal both corrupt wolf and trickster

i'll just claim trickster when that happens sighh,,,

ok we jump ship and give austria repo?

Sandoval

i'll just claim trickster when that happens sighh,,,

idk man i think cleric is a better call here

UuUuuahwhe can't you guys do it

doesnt matter who does it

00:22

problem is

00:22

im gonna claim the only town any role in the game

00:22

and swurtle already claimed TM

00:22

granted people think she's scum

Draek

ok we jump ship and give austria repo?

yeah i think so

still

00:24

now that they've talked a lot

00:24

who do you think is apoth

00:24

if any

00:24

what do you think of kal ddd and arch

i was assuming kal earlier

00:24

to be apoth

00:24

i could see it being arch though

do you read ddd as town

00:25

i can honestly never read ddd

00:25

he's always scum in my eyes

i have no clue tbh

00:26

2 cleric claims though

00:27

uncontested

00:27

so

we should have contested that

00:27

way earlier

00:27

if anything

00:27

you should have claimed first

00:27

no we could potentially be stuck in a double cleric endgame

00:28

wait

00:28

what do we do

00:28

with corrupted wolf vote

hm?

right now there's -1 on each

00:29

but katy can have a stronger case for trickster

00:29

since she was on swurtle

00:29

maybe if you establish yourself as AT you can push her

sunny can just unvote if he wants

00:29

and yeah

honestly at this point getting AT out might be our best move

i need to decide AT results

n1 ddd safe

im gonna say DDD not a threat N1 for sure, possibly sarv not a threat N2 because yeah, then N3 i think i should say someone is a threat

try to push katy?

00:30

we say she stayed on swurtle to clear herself as trickster

and say she is a corrupt wolf or?

yeah

00:31

but

00:31

then

00:31

sin staying on austria

00:31

works against us

00:31

and people already saw him vote

i just got off

00:31

who caress

yeah just hope people dont notice i guess

i never voted you're crazy you're crazy wake up

(this is why i say keep vote neutral so you dont mess up your own story)

00:31

you could say you were doomed if questioned

Yea sure Ok

and just didnt wanna muddy the waters

wait

00:32

so

00:32

we have

00:32

3 tm 1 any

yes

00:33

the any slot is a TM lol

swurtle (public)
sharl (public)
kruthers
kathy
me
sin
huck (public)

(edited)

00:33

7 people on 4 claims

00:34

that is if sunny claims trickster in a 50-50

00:35

who can we push here

00:35

also huck might die tonight

00:35

we really hope he will in fact

00:35

urghhhhh

00:35

we cant have reporter stay on austria

yeah its a bit late for that

problem is

00:36

if we kill AT

00:36

and you claim AT

00:36

you're dead

00:36

and

indeed

00:36

we'll need to kill horses at night

00:36

before they get everyone

00:37

there's too many for us to kill

00:37

we need mislynches

00:37

sniper hanging here is bad

00:37

you should not have outed him

00:37

the tie was better and we could have tried to work together (edited)

Draek

you should not have outed him

yeah youre right

00:37

a tad late, however

00:38

it was very impulsive as it jumpscared me

town can't find horse but can sure as hell find you

indeed

and if we kill horses too early town overpowers us

Oh rip me getting reported

death has to stay alive

pensivegayblob

we keep sarv alive as long as we're not doomed

we would be in a much better spot if we didnt miss N1 kill

00:39

yeah...

00:40

is it even worth for me to publically claim herald here

00:40

surely it is

00:40

but people know sniper is despot

00:40

so im literally just taking a gamble on the apoth

yeah

we're in the worst possible position we could be

00:41

after hang and repo

we cant push town either if austria stays alive

we might be forced to kill austria tonight

00:42

because itll be right before clerics come online

well if huck dies we elect mayor tomorrow

00:42

and if he doesnt there's still no clerics

00:42

we're not hanging huck for a while either

00:42

i think we're good on the clerics

00:43

in any case we need to get rid of town

00:43

and push TM claims

00:43

including swurtle

00:43

which is why i said sunny pretty much needs to claim cleric here

yeah i said the same, in fact @Sandoval you probably should do that like... sooner than later?

if he does it wrong he becomes a target

00:44

i think he should stay hidden and maybe claim in ccs

issue is theres already 2 public cleric claims

yeah exactly

00:45

he can say he wanted to stay hidden

00:45

in case he would be useful later on

00:45

cause right now wolves can just hunt clerics down

00:45

and he can maybe claim to someone in dm

Timin

yeah i said the same, in fact @Sandoval you probably should do that like... sooner than later?

What

i mean, theres 2 on the list, so itd make sense for him to publicly counterclaim since one of those is likely scum

00:45

from a town perspective

the ctc is already quite late (edited)

yeah

ok what if

00:46

we keep austria alive

00:46

she's gullble

00:47

you claim AT

00:47

and say

00:47

you found 3 non-evils

that was my other thought, we could have someone talk to her

and say

00:47

statistically one of the 3

00:47

has to be honse (edited)

00:47

and then namedrop sarv ddd and one more

true true

we dont know what sarv and the other horse will claim

00:47

but im fairly sure its gonna be TM

Draek

the ctc is already quite late (edited)

yewaa that's what i thought

Sandoval

yewaa that's what i thought

we can maybe push ddd as potential horse cleric claim

00:48

later on

00:48

for all we know he might be horse (edited)

00:49

4 cleric claims force a 50-50 we're willing to take

00:49

i wish we find apoth or AT

00:49

ideally apoth

ideally apoth yeah

if we find apoth ill insta claim herald

00:50

no

00:50

ill claim it in the morning

00:50

its smarter

00:50

since the hang is despot for sure

ye

problem is if apoth is dead (edited)

00:51

then they'll grill my ass

00:51

for not announcing

00:51

i can say i was on AT though since i found it more likely someone would fake claim that

00:56

i dont think arch is the horse

00:56

did we kill a horse

if so its so cooked

yeah if we killed death specifically it would be really bad

00:57

maybe i can get guardian tomorrow

00:57

as only tpow

thatd be nice

did katy take the vote back

yeah to hide she is trickster

ill check arch

01:04

austria not revealing results can work in our favour

indeed

01:04

tell me what you see in arch

we really need her to throw to stand a reasonable chance

01:05

try to stall

01:05

if i get arch back as apoth

01:05

ill cc austria

01:06

with a correct herald will

01:06

@Timin ARCH AT

ahhh

01:07

interesting

man claiming herald now is really hard

01:07

do we keep arch alive and you ctc FT and kill him one austria is gone?

01:08

or do we kill him to confirm herald and you claim something else

hruhhmmgghh

if you claim FT now maybe she'll tell you reporter info

01:09

worth a try?

01:09

and i can find something else to claim

ill do it

Townsfolk Power

Exorcist

Exorcist

Fletcher

Fletcher

Grandma

Grandma

Herald

Herald

Hooker

Hooker

Medium

Medium

RoyalKnight

Royal Knight Stalker

Stalker

Stalker

Ravenkeeper

Ravenkeeper

she is telling me and kal reporter info rn

01:09

but not saying the roles

01:09

im pressing a bit

what is reporter info if not the roles

just "turtle wolf" "sniper despot" (role) and "krem town"

ok what if i cc her

01:10

tell her im herald

01:10

and i was on AT

01:10

say AT is not dead

01:10

since we know that for sure

01:10

and that i can confirm sniper was despot

01:10

and ill stay on AT tonight too

01:10

too forward?"

let me claim AT and ask for full info first

alr

01:11

who you going with

01:11

ddd n1 sarv n2

she is gonna tunnel on arch scum

01:11

lmao

ok we need to kill her

01:11

if she does

01:11

but we gotta make sure she leaves a will behind

ddd n1 sarv n2, both not a threat, then i guess i can just ask who to check

Draek

but we gotta make sure she leaves a will behind

saying arch is scum

Timin

ddd n1 sarv n2, both not a threat, then i guess i can just ask who to check

works

Meow

we can fake AT on anyone in the game lmao

Draek

we can fake AT on anyone in the game lmao

and Kremblin is Apoth

okay okay

massive read from me btw just saying...

oph

01:15

i thought she told you

she did

01:15

but im the one who wanted to kill krem

okay

for being a TK/TI

do you think we'll both get sussed out if i come out now and say i saw apoth die?

01:15

for not claiming during the day

01:15

yeah i think i need to say i was on at

01:16

so

01:16

kal and ddd

01:16

are

01:16

cleric and horse

01:16

none of us got horse'd

01:16

wait

we may get horsed

01:16

we dont know yet

nono

01:17

almost everyone alive

01:17

voted

01:17

look at votes

01:17

did anyone's get cancelled

01:17

if so we know who got war horse'd

nooo i got doomed

just huck

who didnt vote

austria wants me to check swurtle

kathy and sunny?

i imagine i just say not a threat

uhhh

but i dont WANNA do it for swurtle

i think they want to hang swurte (edited)

(no offense swurtle)

depends if we kill austria i guess

01:18

is it worth throwing her under the bus here

~~url~~

(edited)

do you know kal's claim here?

we do not

01:19

we know most of the list, kal has to be horse if no one so far has lied (doubtful, i think kal is town)

Timin

we know most of the list, kal has to be horse if no one so far has lied (doubtful, i think kal is town)

ok but

01:20

hear me out

01:20

DDD took his vote back

01:20

check the polls

oh true

only kathy and ddd were voteless

01:21

well sunny too but we know he didnt get doomed last night

i bet DDD was doomed, then

which would make kal horse

yeah

probably death horse

i can believe that

so we know everyone and it's up to how well we lie

01:21

i hate this but its gonna be insane if we win

yeah

01:22

i wish we killed trickster N1

Werewolves Bot B

Click to see attachment 🖼️ (edited)

What kind of a gif is that

what is it i didnt look at it

what scum is huck talking about

lmao

01:22

sniper, i think

ok good

01:23

it would be a disaster if she told arch to check you

01:23

did you tell her result on swurtle

nah

01:23

ive been discussing other targets

01:23

she asked me to check katy

01:24

i will say threat, of course

we might need that

01:24

but it could backfire

01:25

ok i think you have to convince austria kathy is sus and then we have to kill austria

Corrupt Wolf [Werewolf Power]

Basics

The Corrupt Wolf can manipulate a player's votes in the next day's public polls.

Details

Each night, the Corrupt Wolf may select a player and a number of votes (-1, 0, 1, or 2). The next day, the selected player has the chosen vote value instead of their usual value. The number of votes replaces the player's vote, it is not additive. However, the Mayor retains their extra vote. Manipulating a vote is immediate. The Corrupt Wolf may manipulate a member of the wolfpack. The Corrupt Wolf may also communicate with their chosen player in a whispers channel. The Corrupt Wolf is a lycan and also part of the pack. The Corrupt Wolf is not affected by redirections.

wait

01:26

i have an idea

01:26

if sin gives kathy +2

01:26

and she has -1

01:26

it'll look like she's fake trickster

01:27

right? @Host

worth mentioning katy will know she is being corrupted

yeah but

01:27

she'll have AT pushing her

What's the question

corrupt wolf + 2 on a trickster

01:27

end value is +1

01:27

no?

Timin

worth mentioning katy will know she is being corrupted

try convincing austria she's scum i guess but we must kill austria tonight if we push kathy tomorrow

01:28

ill come out as herald to make her claim even less likely

01:28

then we need to go for swurtle/kruthers

The value isn't cumulative, it overwrites

so then

01:28

corrupt wolf would have to do 1 on trickster

01:28

and the trickster's vote will count as 1?

01:29

like CW > trickster in terms of priority?

alright, should i tell her katy is a threat?

That conclusion for your hypothetical scenario is correct

Timin

alright, should i tell her katy is a threat?

i think that's the play, you should vote to kill austria too

sure thing

@Sandoval can you overwrite kathy's vote with 1?

01:30

we lock it in

01:30

i need to sleep

What

Sandoval

What

we're making kathy look suspicious tomorrow

Timin

sure thing

idk do your magic and try to marinate austria

01:31

you always get people to trust you for no reason

Draek

@Sandoval can you overwrite kathy's vote with 1?

Oh so I corrupt her? With 1

01:32

I'm slow idk

Draek

you always get people to trust you for no reason

i think currently im generally distrusted

kruthers trusts you

this is true!

so does austria and people trust austria vote

but in general otherwise i am unsure

i doubt tomorrow we'll see anotehr 9v9 split

01:32

so having a few allies helps

01:33

also if austria trusts you it would be good enough

01:33

cause

01:33

if she dies at night

01:33

people know she was not wolf

01:33

so if she can push our enemies for us before she dies we're looking good

Sandoval

Oh so I corrupt her? With 1

yes

01:33

we make her look like a normal vote

01:34

should i also cc her @Timin what do you think

mm

01:34

its your choice

01:34

i kinda wanna take a werewolf break for some time lol

01:35

ive been on since i woke, basically

that is fair

oh yeah i assume swurtle told you but for the record we tied the vote N1 and thats why we didnt kill

she did

its really tragic

it's how i guessed you had a direwolf

whats that have to do with direwolf

alpha wolf doesnt tie the vote

01:43

and i doubted lone wolf

right right

since i was already packless

01:43

ngl

01:43

direwolf here

01:43

would have been good

indeed

instead of vanilla wolf

i know its kinda my fault turtle died but idk in what world a snipe would be expected as wolf there

yeah its fine

01:45

we play with what we have

01:45

and if we lose its not my fault raton

raton

01:45

i think ive generally played well this game

surely they'll just take the bait

its very unfortunate though

the only imo big mistake was outing sniper

yeah thats my bad

01:46

i can agree there

i could have claimed huck wasnt runner as herald to get him mayor at the end

it just jumpscared me + he was already dying so i wanted town cred for outing a non town

well

01:46

that town cred better come in handy tomorrow

01:46

when we up arch and kathy

i hope so!

(i think swurtle hangs tomorrow though)

i think so too

at least it'll "out" kathy as non-trickster

01:47

problem is also getting the next reporter

01:47

there's so much to do raton

raton

i mean

its 2 am ill sleep

what if katy just Doesnt Vote

01:48

oh yeah also im doomed

01:48

01:48

i may die

Timin

what if katy just Doesnt Vote

if you publically out her she'll have to vote to confirm herself as trickster

Timin

oh yeah also im doomed

HOW DID THEY HIT 2 WOLVES

youch!

well one of them has gotta be war, there was too big of a delay between you getting doomed and sin getting doomed

yeah

bruh

01:50

this is looking like horse win ngl

we're getting owned and town can't beat horses

01:50

or find them rather

if ever theres one of us left and they're being lynched we should totally go "blank and blank are horses" and have it be town lmao

so true

01:51

i will always root with scum as scum

same same

01:51

but my own team first obviously

01:52

as UA ill go either way (hasnt rolled UA yet)

Draek

we're getting owned and town can't beat horses

It’s so joever

ill try to keep swurtle alive today by saying we need to hang a hrse

10:48

actually

10:48

ill claim huck wasnt runner

10:48

but wolf

10:48

it also gives us more space to claim TM

Good idea

Depends how much people trust huck after last night

correct me if im wrong

14:07

but i think sin should maybe ctc katy for trick here?

14:07

i think sin is war doomed

14:07

so they can "confirm" themselves as -1 (edited)

corrupted channel what

14:18

players know they're corrupted?

14:18

now fish will be sus as fuck if he pushes kath

14:20

my bad

Draek

players know they're corrupted?

you didn't know??

ftr we've kept it in the pack for now she isn't crazy credible

yeah

14:31

but will people rather believe fish or katy + arch

me

Draek

but i think sin should maybe ctc katy for trick here?

i,, hope

Oh shit huck wasn’t honse he was telling the truth and hod doomed

Elbio

Oh shit huck wasn’t honse he was telling the truth and hod doomed

wasted

Elbio

Oh shit huck wasn’t honse he was telling the truth and hod doomed

well he wasn't wolf so sstll a win

Do we push a sarv lynch?

uhhh idk will tryhard again in the evening

Lmao

SWURTLE?

17:07

actually

17:07

might be ok

Draek

SWURTLE?

Listened I panicked and I did this to save myself

just dont leak pack info that could make us look sus

17:10

but you can cause chaos

17:13

they're never gonna believe sarv is evil now

Well I’m dying cuz I got at and oracle confused

there was very little saving you to begin with

IT COULD OF WORKED IF I DIDNT DO THAT

i bet sarv had a panic attack reading that ping at least

Wait who was despot

sniper

Do we know what Katy and Austria were

katy was and still is trickster

17:15

austria was cleric

17:16

sniper was despot

17:16

huck was runner (but i claimed he wasnt runner)

17:16

check pinned

17:16

we know what everyone is

Got it

HORSES PLEASE CTC CLERIC

17:18

ok yeah i dont see how we could win this

17:21

maybe tell him to claim if he's not horse

Draek

maybe tell him to claim if he's not horse

That didn’t work

i dont really know how to nagivate this

17:23

i wasnt prepared for the bomb you dropped

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I PANIC

Draek

players know they're corrupted?

(i said this)

17:26

(i also said not to corrupt her due to it)

there was too much going on

17:26

its alright

17:29

backreading...

17:29

swurtle...

I PANCIKED

17:29

I tried saving myself and failed horribly

ok

17:30

arch made a cc with me

17:30

he believes huck is wolf or cit

17:30

and he told me he checked me

17:30

im trying to get info

17:30

N1 - Krem a threat (apparently reporter said hes apoth) N2 - Fish a threat (also endorsed swurtle iirc so i bet hes a scum since we know apoth) N3 - You, not a threat

17:31

its so over

17:36

@Timin arch knows krem was apoth

17:36

and huck told him that turtle was apparently direwolf

17:36

but trusts me more than huck rn

17:37

and wants to give me mayor

17:37

problem is

i see i see

if reporter is out im dead

17:37

cause i lied

im putting kal in my thing as a threat

17:37

we cant risk more death dooms on us (i will die tonight)

17:37

tonight we can kill arch and we will both die at the same time

arch doesnt seem to know about you i dont think austria told him

17:38

problem is i dont know who austria talked to

i was insisting she doesnt tell anyone about me so

17:39

@Sandoval you might want to claim cleric and say you were hiding but idk if its a good idea

puts him on the radar too

17:39

we need death horse to kill for us and maybe get war horse out of the game at some point

17:40

if they trust me enough for me to stay alive and win on votes it could work but i'd need mayor since i cant vote in pack

17:40

its really just a bad situation

17:40

both bad luck and misplays from everyone

Draek

we need death horse to kill for us and maybe get war horse out of the game at some point

well im probably dead

Yeah

i cant imagine death was on sunny over me

So it's just me and sunny but sunny is claimless

you see thats the issue with somehow magically gaining trust

17:51

you get KILLED

Since war was on sunny they could claim trickster but it's their claim vs kathys (edited)

17:51

And we corrupted kathy

@Folium remember that game where i charmed you and claimed town crier then fucking died because wolves thought i was TT

Draek

Since war was on sunny they could claim trickster but it's their claim vs kathys (edited)

i mean, DDD will collect claims if we dont counter cleric

Yeah

17:52

arch believes he's guaranteed to die tonight if huck was wolf

maybe we have @Elbio tell sarv evil NEEDS a cleric counterclaim

17:53

and get one of them to do it

17:53

we can threaten them with us outing them lol

Yeah we could have swurtle coordinate our claims with horses

id do that

But it's at the risk of horses knowing more about us

meh we only need to say "we know both of you, claim cleric or we will out you"

Ok town might know apothecary is dead so swurtle could tell them to make war claim apoth

17:54

Fair

17:54

Also

17:54

DO NOT

17:54

Tell them the other hoese

17:54

Just in case they didn't meet (edited)

indeed

17:55

swurtle has to do this for obvious reasons

I'll try to stay alive for as long as I can

17:55

Yeah

17:55

I'm walking home can you walk her through it

she isnt here anyhow rn

17:56

im about to leave for a 6 hour roadtrip

Enjoy

thank you luffy i hate long car rides

Draek

So it's just me and sunny but sunny is claimless

my tummy hurt

Timin

@Folium remember that game where i charmed you and claimed town crier then fucking died because wolves thought i was TT

Perchance

Arch just told me in cc

18:14

That sin might be the other cleric

18:14

Who's been inactive

right yea Totally

18:15

Who did suwrtke say they were 3giving the journal too

Swurtle outed herself as wolf

Oh :/

And tried dragging sarv down with her but might have made them stronger in the process

then why are they giving her mayor

Cause they want clerics to be active tonight

Jahsirheueu Guess ill sketch yo then themifyougwnantmeohamjeuut

18:21

Fucking hell I can't type

18:22

Ill claim then if necessary I meant to say

They're never gonna believe you over DDD :/

18:24

We'd need a horse to claim cleric

Draek

They're never gonna believe you over DDD :/

how is dikla better than me

18:26

ffs

18:30

cam we kill ddd Tonight Just his existence in this game is making me mad

problem is we canät

18:37

since heäs cleric

18:37

actually we could try to read that he won't defend on the first night but idk if its worth the ris

id rather just kill arch

ddd can save himself and one more

18:39

and if we kill arch your AT claim falls flat

18:39

actually no

18:39

you die on the same night

yeah

18:41

we both die

18:41

so its then just who trusts which one more

so we need to somehow get him to protect me or something

18:41

or you

should i say swurtle was corrupting wolf (edited)

20:49

when she hangs

20:49

that would confirm kathy

20:50

ill say she wasnt cw (edited)

for the record i like pc better i need those 20 messaged Argue with me

oh okay lmao

kekw

lmao?

Timin

maybe we have @Elbio tell sarv evil NEEDS a cleric counterclaim

Maybe

nah you should do it

21:31

CC sarv and say we will out both horsemen if they dont have one of them claim cleric

please don't dox wolves if you do

yeah

21:31

dont do that

21:31

lol

I won’t

and don't dox kal

21:31

to sarv

21:31

in case they didnt meet

ye

Elbio

I won’t

you were 2 messages away from telling me pack's address, credit card number and SSN

Timin

CC sarv and say we will out both horsemen if they dont have one of them claim cleric

I technically outted sarv so isn’t it just me outting the other one

yeah

21:32

lol

21:32

but we can also say we will out them later too like

21:32

its just more enemies for them

Got it

For real

Ok done

21:34

Named the cc blackmail lmao

prak

21:35

peak

ok that's really funny

i was literally just telling my friend in the car with me about my adventures blackmailing the other evil team, lol

21:36

must suck being stuck in a car next to a WWR player for six hours

Sarv said no but thought it was funny

Ok well let them all claim TM and we'll also all claim TM

21:36

It's gambling time baby

ask if theyve met up with their teammate and can ask them to do it perhaps

Don't name-drop Kal during that question (edited)

thats why i phrased it like that

He’s denying he’s war honse

Bruh

lol

We should kill war just to make a statement

imagine the assistant jumpscare though

Unlikely

yeah i doubt it too

21:38

tell sarv we know both horses >:(

Oooo ctc cleric or wolves will kill you I like it

Problem is sarv is almost untouchable cause swurtle pushed him

Timin

tell sarv we know both horses >:(

I told him that

smh sarv

21:38

did sarv answer about the meeting up question

Ok I told sarv if he doesn’t ctc cleric wolves will kill him so you gotta keep your end of the deal lmao

21:39

*them

meh say we will kill death instead

terrorist threats

Sarv doesn’t trust me

it actually benefits us to kill death

21:40

though we dont actually need to do it

no it doesnt

21:40

there's about 289317381 towns left alive

true true

we need to get rid of war

Timin

meh say we will kill death instead

That's an oxymoron

Thanks Luffy

thanks luffy

i dont think its an oxymoron

Thanks Luffy

Thanks Luffy

Thanks Luffy

21:41

(can you delete my messages i dont want to be the loser who broke the chain)

1

How can you remove death via death (edited)

no i get that im just arguing the semantics of what an oxymoron is

21:41

"A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist. "

Diyan

How can you remove death via death (edited)

is death dead or is death just a bringer of death

Draek

(can you delete my messages i dont want to be the loser who broke the chain)

Nah keeping it in there for the quality ccs

not the public execution (edited)

21:42

Draek

"A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined, as in a deafening silence and a mournful optimist. "

Is that not what it is?

well death and dead are not contradictory terms

idk ask the horseman

that would be very funny

Close enough tbh

luffy just dropping in a secret channel like "i was arguing about oxymorons with someone can you clear that up rq"

21:44

holy shit my english took a dive

Diyan

Close enough tbh

chatgpt agrees with you

and we all know thats the pinical of knowledge, completely infallible

by the law of mental gymanstics it also means you're an AI glazer and deserve no respect

tbh i think i use ai much less than most people

21:49

i try to do the work myself

if im trying to solve quick tasks for my sheets ill use it

21:49

but for uni stuff i mostly use it when i need to understand concepts

21:49

the code it writes is unreliable

ive had to tutor peopole who tried to code with it, its usually a big mess

21:50

i like honest normal work

21:50

but it is good for cutting corners

it gives you a slightly wrong output and then instead of debugging you try to get it to debug itself (edited)

21:50

4 hours gone and then you google the issues and its the first stackoverflow link

Draek

chatgpt agrees with you

Lmao

Diyan

ive had to tutor peopole who tried to code with it, its usually a big mess

They’re trying to work smarter not harder but failing also computer science majors like to code all of their problems even though there are simplistic solutions

i learn better by doing it myself

@Sandoval need you to vote swurtle on the polls

21:58

i need a missing vote to exist so it can look like im war doomed

what if i try to push sarv tomorrow

22:01

for the reason that

22:01

uhh

22:01

he has voted on all polls and his vote counted

No kill sarv

so he couldnt be doomed

I want my blackmail to actually work lamp

22:02

*lmao

is there a risk of apoc happening

Idk how many people are doomed

doomed:

sniper
huck
sin
fish
ddd / kathy 100% not doomed:
swurtle
me
arch could be doomed:
kruth
sharl
kathy / ddd

(edited)

22:03

this we know for sure

22:04

100% not doomed:

swurtle
me
arch

Ok uh there could be risk of apoc if there only 3 people left

22:06

That aren’t doomed

if we try to track then

22:12

N1:

War: Sniper, Sharl / Katy / Krem / Turtle / Death
Death: Turtle / Krem / War N2:
War: Huck, DDD
Death: Huck N3:
War: Fish, Kruth
Death: Sunny N4:
War: Alex / Sharl / Katy / Death
Death: Alex / anyone tbh

(edited)

1

22:12

since they double tagged huck i doubt they found eachother n1

22:13

and ddd or kathy must've been war'd n2 since they're the only ones who didnt vote

22:13

im gonna lock in ddd there but that's my read

22:14

at their absolute luckiest they'd have gotten Sharl N1, Kruth N3 but not eachother

22:15

which means they could start apoc tonight but they'd have to guess where the other went correctly

22:16

if they didnt get lucky n1 then even if they're teamed up by now they'd need 4/5 more dooms before apoc

22:16

votes today also fill in this list

❗ Could not find role apocalypse. Did you mean apocalyptic horseman (aka Apocalyptic)?

22:16

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 8-11-2024 22:16

we might have to kill sarv if i cant push them tomorrow

Timin

@Sandoval need you to vote swurtle on the polls

Ok

I'll wake up like 6 hours before phase change

00:22

Hopefully not too late to decide on a kill

Arch seems to really trust me

00:38

He also distrusts sarvak and will claim to ddd

00:39

And I'm trying to convince him to check kal

sharl threat or not?

05:24

ddd wants me to check him

Arch checked Kal as threat

I think I'm death doomed

Timin

sharl threat or not?

Idk but should I throw you under the bus if you die

08:16

Like say you were not last at

08:16

Ideally both you and arch die (edited)

DDD wants me to herald check assistant

08:32

@Timin

08:32

no clue what that means

just means he is checking kruthers with you

09:55

wdym

Timin

just means he is checking kruthers with you

i know

09:59

what i meant was

09:59

what does it mean in terms of who's protecting

09:59

if he wants me to check kruthers then he's definitely not saving kruthers

09:59

and i cant just ask him who he's protecting

fair

10:00

im on arch right now

i think that's fine

10:02

if ddd is protecting him though it'll confirm him

10:02

idk if we can fake you being the wolf kill

10:03

i just hope ddd protects you

Draek

i just hope ddd protects you

if im death doomed it doesnt save me so

yeah i know

10:22

but i want both you and jean to die

10:22

so i dont have to pick a side

10:23

if he protects you we're free to kill whoever

10:23

if jean survives i need to side with them hard and they'll check sin next

fair

do we know who sunny corrupted

nope..

Draek

if jean survives i need to side with them hard and they'll check sin next

and i cant kill so i'd have to win by votes

10:24

i'd much prefer if sarvak hung today (edited)

10:24

but it might be kal

Timin

if im death doomed it doesnt save me so

ok i should have asked this earlier but what did you claim to ddd

11:14

@Sandoval who did you corrupt

11:18

also can you public claim that you were doomed

11:18

and preapre a fake tm claim for ddd

11:18

whatever tm you want to claim

Draek

also can you public claim that you were doomed

during n3

@Timin you're alive

14:03

that might be rough we need to convince ddd arch was scum and died to death horse and you need to claim you were doomed to make katy seem suspicious, otherwise the +1 we gave her "confirms" cw for the wrong reasons the silver lining to that is that ddd didn't protect arch so at the very least he didn't fully trust him (edited)

ddd said kal is hanging because of ctc stuff, not because of arch's check

Draek

ok i should have asked this earlier but what did you claim to ddd

wdym? AT and i said sharl wasnt a threat

Alright

17:45

We claim arch was wolf who died to doom, sunny was town and kruthers/Katy are last 2 scum?

17:46

He asked me to check for assistant because kruthers was doomed and he wanted to confirm him if he was death doomed

17:46

Problem is I'm trusted a lot but I can't kill so you're the one who needs to survive longer

yup

I think I can push arch a lot since he found 3 scums

as in the dead arch?

Yes

17:47

Arch claimed to ddd

17:47

That much I know for sure

17:47

They both trusted me

17:47

So they told me

yeah fair

Since arch died we have to make it seem like he was scum

17:48

Also if you claim you were war doomed to DDD we can maybe convince him Katy is fake

17:49

Cause then vote counts check out with you being -1 on both polls and Kruth on second one

Sharl contacted me in private I think he also trusts me

17:57

At least a little

I'm gonna be really suspicious if I ask DDD who he saved but I'm gonna guess he bluffed and still has the cleric save

yeah dont ask

18:05

id believe it

Problem is I kinda wanted him dead this night

18:06

Otherwise we might have to kill sharl

18:06

And try to double lynch last horse and a town

18:06

I'm doomed so I might die too

yuuup

18:06

oh god

Gotta make sure you're trusted as much as you can be

18:06

Before I go

i cant solo :(

You might be able to if we play our cards right

18:07

Kruth trusts you and sharl didn't keep up so I'm trying to make him distrust ddd

18:07

And I'm gonna push the hell out of sarv

i mean im pretty busy irl so i cant keep up my usual activity

Rest is up to how much you can seduce ddd

18:07

Damn :(

18:07

Well I'm voting today to confirm if it's war or death on me

yeah fair

ddd is pushing Kal but Kal still votes me for mayor

18:08

Knowing Kal is death could only mean he knows I'm not a threat as mayor

18:08

Makes me think I'll die

18:09

Or that horses somehow found eachother

"we need death alive to kill townies" mfs when kal hits 2/5 wolves

Yeah I mean that's just unfortunate

18:09

Cause we're also trying to hard push horses now

18:10

Ideal result is sarv getting apoc and killing a town tonight lmao

18:10

And both of us living

18:10

We don't need a kill in the endgame if I can somehow get mayor

ye

18:10

we do need to stop reporter though

18:10

or We Lose

Yeah I mean reporter just instantly confirms me as scum

18:11

For now me getting mayor voted is good

18:12

Means reporter is delayed for the next 100 years

18:13

Or rather getting mayor voted

18:13

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1303343397385539615/1304856287443419136

18:13

That's so fake lmao

big if true

Draek

Yeah I mean reporter just instantly confirms me as scum

me too lol

if you dont die we win

19:06

oh wait katy exists

19:06

we dont win cause katy exists

19:06

lol

19:06

i was gonna point out we have 2 on 6 votes right now, counting sarv

19:07

and kal

19:07

mm my math was wrong anyways

19:07

or wait no it wasnt im dumb

19:07

we would have 3 on 3 if katy didnt exist

19:08

if katy dies to death doom we just win

19:08

i think

We don't know who was death doomed if it wasn't me

Timin

we would have 3 on 3 if katy didnt exist

Who is our third vote

19:09

We can't kill horses at night once they turn apoc and I'm 99% sure they turn apoc tonight

you lol

19:09

cause mayor

If I don't die I'm war doomed

19:09

oh yeah

We need to hang horse today and tomorrow

19:10

Kill a town

19:10

And convince them to hang a town after

i imagine we will have to kill DDD or katy tonight

It's a bumpy road and we need people to trust you enough to hang like Kruth over you

19:10

And in the meantime horses could kill one of us too

19:11

If someone else is death doomed at the moment and apoc kills another town we can mega win

ye

If I die you'll need to pull the greatest comeback of all time

19:13

No matter what we do sarv needs to hang tomorrow though

19:13

And you need to survive

19:13

I'd need to fake everyone else AND get mayor to win this alone

19:13

For like 3 days

Draek

If I die you'll need to pull the greatest comeback of all time

im NOT ready for this

It's okay fish I believe in you

i dont im going hiking later

19:18

and a party

19:19

and an escape room on monday

19:19

and idk what im doing tomorrow

O have fun that sounds good

Kruth messaged me too

21:48

And sharl said he doesn't like ddd

21:48

Town is all over the place this might be doable

21:54

Kruth doubts ddd is pack

I was war doomed

01:02

We got a chance

01:02

Gonna sleep

01:04

Nevermind?

01:05

I'm death doomed oof

01:07

Ok at least you can kill DDD this way

01:07

I'll tell sharl to trust you

01:14

And try to make people distrust katy

01:14

And push sarvak hard before I die

01:14

Rest is up to you and horse getting a kill that helps us tonight The line I see is: Kill ddd tonight Hang sarvak tomorrow Kill katy night after Convince sharl to vote with you against Kruth I'll do my best to convince sharl to vote with you when the time comes and push sarvak (edited)

@Draek im gonna miss you

02:21

ddd wants me to check kruthers

Hi

02:22

I can't fall asleep

unlucky

Idk what you should tell ddd but my plan was for you to kill ddd tonight and in the morning I'll make a cc with you me and sharl

02:23

Saying we have an almost guaranteed win

02:23

And making up a dead role list so that Kruth ends up being last wolf (edited)

ill say not a threat if he insists but im gonna offer checking someone else

Ill also try to convince Kruth to push sarv

02:24

If all goes well we can win without you being online a ton

Timin

ill say not a threat if he insists but im gonna offer checking someone else

Checks out I was going to tell sharl Kruth is warlock

im telling ddd i trust kruthers to try to flip the check onto katy where ill say threat

02:25

i dont wanna give so many not a threat checks lol they feel too "safe" which might sus me

I told ddd huck's mayor chat said Katy is sus

02:25

Thing is ddd must die tonight

02:26

So whatever you tell him is a question of whether he'll tell anyone else afterwards

oh yeah i know

I think pushing kruth and killing Katy will be easier if you can hang sarv tomorrow

he says he has a reporter lined up btw

02:27

he says if they die ill be the backup

For now I'll use the trust everyone has in me to keep you safe

who can it be

02:27

sharl?

02:27

his reporter, i mean

Probably

well you die so we dont need to worry about that

Yeah

but theyll probably get mayor

Maybe you can give sharl mayor so he has extra reasons to vote with you in final 3

02:28

Though I think sharl gets war doomed tonight

02:28

So you could even get it yourself

02:29

I have a plan for what to tell sharl right before phase change so he can't confirm with ddd

if i get it thatd be lovely

First step is you not dying to apocalypse

02:30

That would suck

02:30

That and sharl dying

02:30

Are probably the worst outcomes

02:30

Cause then you need to convince someone else to vote with you

02:31

I hope sarv just attacks me or ddd

err

02:31

is sarv apocalypse?

I've been somewhat keeping track of dooms

sarv killing katy would be best but i dont think theyre apoc

I don't see any world where sarv doesn't get apoc today

yeah but cant kill you or DDD since youll both be dead by then lol

❗ Could not find role apoc. Did you mean apocalyptic horseman (aka Apo)?

02:33

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

Oh

02:33

Okay he's not apoc rn I don't think

02:33

This works for us

yeah i dont think so

Draek

Rest is up to you and horse getting a kill that helps us tonight The line I see is: Kill ddd tonight Hang sarvak tomorrow Kill katy night after Convince sharl to vote with you against Kruth I'll do my best to convince sharl to vote with you when the time comes and push sarvak (edited)

^ we should be able to go though with this

02:34

Depends how well I can convince them to vote sarv

❗ Could not find role apocalypse. Did you mean apocalyptic horseman (aka Apocalyptic)?

02:36

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

Hmmm is doomsday not publically announced

02:36

Well whatever I'll try to sleep now

02:37

Next time we'll talk will be when wolves have won the game

gn my friend gn

i said kruthers is a threat oops

04:30

04:30

i hope this is fine

04:31

i need to stop multitasking cause i always make mistakes when i do

04:31

he asked me to check mid codenames game :(

I've been doomed again

09:41

war and death had not met

09:41

This is good cause you can track votes easier

Draek

This is good cause you can track votes easier

how do you mean?

well if you didnt know who was war doomed

10:57

sarvak might get away

10:57

if not enough people vote

ah i c

me being war doomed means there's at most one vote you can disregard

10:58

im gonna guess sharl is also war doomed just cause i dont think he had been doomed before

10:58

it could also be katy but that would mean ddd got doomed 2 nights in a row

10:58

isnt it like 3 am west coast

Timin

i said kruthers is a threat oops

that should work

10:59

that way he might not share any more info with kruth

yeah i think itll be fine

until he dies

we shall see

10:59

i sleep now

im gonna make the cc with you and sharl right before phase change

10:59

gn

im busy all day tomorrow

10:59

probably wont stop me from being on wwr anyways

gn my friend gn

in too deep

we might be doomed

12:00

you need to get katy's vote

ok i dont know if i can do more

13:31

ill try to tell kruth to push sarv

13:32

but in case sarv doesnt die you cant be the one doing the pushing

13:32

or they'll kill you (edited)

im trying to make kruth doubt ddd

13:41

as a last effort

sharl

13:59

is

13:59

war doomed

13:59

keep in mind

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