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Werewolves Revamped

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@Raymond Shields (they/them) has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Raymond Shields (they/them) @Shoe the Cat

Hey

22:58

So

22:58

I

22:58

Trust

22:58

You?

22:58

I think

22:58

I think I trust you

22:58

Your arguments make sense

22:58

You're arguing very townsy

22:58

You could be working with Kali and you're both scum

22:59

But I wanna play smart and not let caution make me a moron

22:59

So I'm gonna trust you

22:59

Could we claim swap?

yes i would be happy to

23:03

i always love a good claim exchange

I'm oracle

23:05

I checked you against Ethan and it said you guys were different alignments

23:05

So I'm choosing to believe you're town and he's scum

BASED okay

You?

im a boring role (assistant) BUT i did redirect a sab tonight

23:06

as ive told kal

23:06

i was trying to bait a redirect

Also I random checked the first night (I debated checking myself against someone to get an ally) and it said alpha and Lucas are the same alignment

23:07

So either they're both town or both scum

Raymond Shields (they/them)

I checked you against Ethan and it said you guys were different alignments

if it helps my own case, ethan has been playing extremely scummy by his standards

23:07

he would usually contribute so much more

Raymond Shields (they/them)

So either they're both town or both scum

also based

23:07

you're correct to save the self check tbh

Shoe the Cat

if it helps my own case, ethan has been playing extremely scummy by his standards

Yeah which is why I'm leaning towards you being town

Shoe the Cat

you're correct to save the self check tbh

Yeah I figured it was worth it to save a contentious CTC. If I checked someone and they weren't same, best we got was a night one lynch and that didn't seem as valuable as saving it

yeah

23:08

most people selfcheck n1 so im very happy u didnt

23:08

and it really shores you up as oracle in my mind

I debated it in my own channel

23:08

It seemed super smart

23:09

I get an ally, we can build tt

23:09

But I figured I could use it to get an ally at any point

23:09

So best to wait for more info

bc you're not vuln to disguises your checks are super important

There were pros and cons. Waiting meant scum got a kill which would've narrowed my potential for an ally. But waiting also meant if a TT formed I wouldn't need to waste a valuable power to get an ally

Shoe the Cat

bc you're not vuln to disguises your checks are super important

Speaking of, has anyone claimed FT yet?

23:10

I can self check against them to confirm or deconfirm our other TI

i wouldnt know

23:10

kal would

Oh I thought you were part of tt

23:11

Should we invite kal to this?

23:11

Make this our makeshift TT?

im happy to

23:11

obviously from his perspective neither of us are confirmed though

I think considering how cautious I was and how good your play has been for town, I think it leads credence to us being TT

yeah i do hope so

Shoe the Cat

obviously from his perspective neither of us are confirmed though

Yeah but we literally don't have a confirmable role

i think promote me and add kal (and promote him)

23:12

he can choose what info to share/not share

Shoe the Cat

i think promote me and add kal (and promote him)

Wait why promote you?/genq

Syntax error. Unknown command add!

23:12

✅ Added @Kay Faraday to the CC!

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Wait why promote you?/genq

so i can rename this cc to something cooler

Can I promote you to something that isn't owner?

Ooooh

(so if both of u end up dead and i need to add people i can - but you can do that later)

✅ Renamed channel to tt!

Ok yeah

def promote kal though

Werewolves Bot B

✅ Renamed channel to tt!

BORING

Uhhh

23:13

Ok I also trust jay

✅ Renamed channel to furries!

Cuz, alldat se

23:13

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the fact that didnt fully register makes it funnier

23:13

(it's queued)

Oh

(discord rate limits)

Fair

(channel names can only change once per ten minutes i think)

Oh it's eating all my commands

rip

23:14

we'll figure it out later

It hungy

23:14

Okso

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Like

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Uhhhh

23:14

Hmmmmmm

23:15

Yeah i trust all that reasoning

kal if you dont trust us fully you dont have to share all the info

23:15

but if theres anything you want help with or any suggestions we will be available

Shoe the Cat

kal if you dont trust us fully you dont have to share all the info

You see

23:15

Uhhh

It'd be helpful. I've been itching to be in TT after the last time I almost fucked everything up by being too cautious and not giving allies any info

Shoe the Cat

but if theres anything you want help with or any suggestions we will be available

A list of all roles (like fill in) please im getting bombarded

I wanna redeem myself

23:16

Town (13) Citizen x2

@Ema Skye (claimed)
@Olga Orly (Claimed)

Assistant x2

@Shoe the Cat (claimed, believed)
@Clay Terran (claimed)
@Will Powers (claimed)
@Missile the Dog (claimed)

Journalist x2

@Damon Gant (claimed)
@Larry Butz (claimed)
@Phineas Filch (claimed)

Priest

@Shi-Long Lang (claimed, confirmed)

Huntress x 2

@Furio Tigre (confirmed)
@Kay Faraday (basically confirmed)

Fortune Teller

@Wocky Kitaki (claimed, probable slightly believed)

Herald

@Matt Engarde (claimed)
@Wendy Oldbag (claimed)

Oracle

Me (claimed, believed)

Hooker

@Simon Blackquill (claimed)
@Adrian Andrews (claimed) Wolves (8)

Wolf x 2 Wolf Cub

@Lamiroir (checked by believed FT)

Pack Tanner x 2 Saboteur Wolf x2 Clairvoyant Fox Solo (1) White Werewolf UA (1) Riding Hood

@Valant Gramarye (claimed, could be goofy real or dumb not)
@Mike Meekins (claimed, not believed)

(edited)

1

23:16

From my cc

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Town (13) Citizen x2

@Ema Skye (claimed)
@Olga Orly (Claimed)

Assistant x2

@Shoe the Cat (claimed, believed)
@Clay Terran (claimed)
@Will Powers (claimed)
@Missile the Dog (claimed)

Journalist x2

@Damon Gant (claimed)
@Larry Butz (claimed)
@Phineas Filch (claimed)

Priest

@Shi-Long Lang (claimed, confirmed)

Huntress x 2

@Furio Tigre (confirmed)
@Kay Faraday (basically confirmed)

Fortune Teller

@Wocky Kitaki (claimed, probable slightly believed)

Herald

@Matt Engarde (claimed)
@Wendy Oldbag (claimed)

Oracle

Me (claimed, believed)

Hooker

@Simon Blackquill (claimed)
@Adrian Andrews (claimed) Wolves (8)

Wolf x 2 Wolf Cub

@Lamiroir (checked by believed FT)

Pack Tanner x 2 Saboteur Wolf x2 Clairvoyant Fox Solo (1) White Werewolf UA (1) Riding Hood

@Valant Gramarye (claimed, could be goofy real or dumb not)
@Mike Meekins (claimed, not believed)

(edited)

yah

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 8-10-2024 23:16

thank u sarv

I can spill the claims since the same read u had with jay i also had it, plus ethan claimed RH

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Town (13) Citizen x2

@Ema Skye (claimed)
@Olga Orly (Claimed)

Assistant x2

@Shoe the Cat (claimed, believed)
@Clay Terran (claimed)
@Will Powers (claimed)
@Missile the Dog (claimed)

Journalist x2

@Damon Gant (claimed)
@Larry Butz (claimed)
@Phineas Filch (claimed)

Priest

@Shi-Long Lang (claimed, confirmed)

Huntress x 2

@Furio Tigre (confirmed)
@Kay Faraday (basically confirmed)

Fortune Teller

@Wocky Kitaki (claimed, probable slightly believed)

Herald

@Matt Engarde (claimed)
@Wendy Oldbag (claimed)

Oracle

Me (claimed, believed)

Hooker

@Simon Blackquill (claimed)
@Adrian Andrews (claimed) Wolves (8)

Wolf x 2 Wolf Cub

@Lamiroir (checked by believed FT)

Pack Tanner x 2 Saboteur Wolf x2 Clairvoyant Fox Solo (1) White Werewolf UA (1) Riding Hood

@Valant Gramarye (claimed, could be goofy real or dumb not)
@Mike Meekins (claimed, not believed)

(edited)

im ass not journo

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ETHAN CLAIMED RH?

23:16

LOL

So that would confirm the info, sort of

23:16

Yes

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Hes

23:16

So cum

kind of cubbish i guess

Shoe the Cat

im ass not journo

I misclicked

Uhhh

ftr i dont think luffy has been behaving super townily

23:18

but i dont have a strong read on him

Luffy claimed assistant

mat has been very quiet again

Which is

swurtle i think has been scummy

XD

23:19

Damon claimed journo

23:19

Simon claims hooker

23:20

Adrian as well

alex claiming hooker as well is that?

Simon as in suso?

yes

23:20

oh btw sarv val was 90% rh

Yeah

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Like

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Lmao

that was 100% a play i can see val doing as rh

23:21

plus i dont think a wolf would have got the sab wolf mechanics wrong

The obviliousness just seemed far too honest

23:21

I was sobbing because it meant it was a dum slip

it couldve have been a very convincing but ill-thought-through fake claim

23:22

but i highly suspect he was real

Sharl claimed priest

plus ethan claiming rh in this scenario is one hundred million percent something hed do as wolf

Swurt claimed journo

✅ Renamed channel to furries_and_the_furious!

23:23

✅ Promoted @Shoe the Cat!

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✅ Promoted @Kay Faraday!

Wocky claimed ft

23:23

Lmao

23:23

Ok so wocky ft, n1 check laima as cub

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N2 check no-one yet

ft would be hard to fake as cf

Pokemon claimed cit

slightly easier to fake as pack

23:23

but probably kruthers is real

Mat herald

23:24

Hucj herald

23:24

Olga cit

23:24

Fish journo

in terms of pack tanners, the 1x claims and the better players are more likely to be disguised rn

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so depending on how many cit/assistant/journo claims we get and who claims them, those will be the better kruthers checks

23:27

we can have sarv self-check with a 1x tomorrow night

23:27

plus kal is confirmed so thats another possible confirmable if sarv lives that long

Yuh

23:27

It would be wise to get attention off sarv as much as we can

23:28

Since hes basically our replenishable source of tt

im worried sarv went too hard on the caution

XD

23:28

yeah

23:28

I read off he was important

oh kal make sure you're targeting ethan

And I decided to be patient on it to not Attract more attention

Sorry I could not read anything that's been happening

no it was fair

I've been frantically editing and finding @s

Huck also but huck reads so scum it's irrelevant

its just never a good thing to say out loud

What's going on?

I should tell sharl to water him if we don't get another lynch tonight

yeah actually

23:29

sharl watering ethan might work out well

23:29

actually ethan may well be www too

Oh also he said to check him with ft but like nah bro ur confirmed scum by now?

eh tbf

23:30

huck is a chaotic player

23:30

and mat has also been scummy

Kay Faraday

Oh also he said to check him with ft but like nah bro ur confirmed scum by now?

but this suggests tanned to me as well

Shoe the Cat

im worried sarv went too hard on the caution

I was kinda trying to come off as scum to see if wolves would contact me as fox

23:30

But I might have just seemed like a cautious TI

yeah i think that was more the vibe

Shoe the Cat

and mat has also been scummy

It's mats vs huck atm and huck has been MUCH mote scummy

unfortunately

Damn

i do think huck is scummier

23:31

we'll wait for more claims

What should i tell mats to herald

23:31

Btw

23:31

Mats and huck

23:31

XD

maybe put them on assistant or smth

23:31

no wait put them on oracle

Good idea

2 separate lists?

Am I checking kruthers tomorrow?

23:32

To confirm them?

Mm

we'll see

23:32

he may not even get counterclaimed

Or are we saying no ctc we believe?

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Am I checking kruthers tomorrow?

Well no we can kinda just ell them to check someone

wait idea

Because while they can be scum and guess they can also be normal and get f'd over by tanner

easy way to prove kruthers

23:32

get him to check me

Shoe the Cat

easy way to prove kruthers

Tanner

Shoe the Cat

get him to check me

Tanmrr

i cant be tanned

23:32

bc i wouldve redirected the tan

23:33

but i didnt, i redirected the sab tonight

23:33

I'll eat, be back in a bit

23:33

Okok

23:33

This should get our info confirmed

yah

And feed another check to sarv

23:33

Okk

if kruthers is wolf theres like a 5% chance hell get me right

23:34

like theoretically cf could have checked a pack member and myself

23:34

or he could get lucky

23:36

wolves are more likely to go for oracle as their risky TI claim than ft though

My check is valuable but I could also die sooner than later

Raymond Shields (they/them)

My check is valuable but I could also die sooner than later

Which is why we gotta paint better targets than u

Which yeah a non-redirdctable check in this list is useful, it's useless if I'm dead before I use it

Kay Faraday

Which is why we gotta paint better targets than u

Yeah we should be getting cit claims to wave big red flags

23:38

It'll give them something to do since cit is boring anyway lmao

Time to eat

chomp that food

Ill wait for kruther's answet

23:38

He cheking uou

oooh he chekin

Chekin

23:56

He hasn't yet thoug

23:56

But just ate

kruthersssss

23:59

@Kay Faraday another good move would be to make an inheritance cc with me

23:59

so that i can lead town if/when u die

Invincit claimed assistant aswell

23:59

Okaaa

23:59

Yeah will do because just words don't work

00:01

Waig

im waiging

@Shoe the Cat can we also confirm assistant claims

00:02

With ft

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Like 2 in one stone

not tonight

If we dont get messed over by tanner*

because of pack tanner

00:04

Who claimless yet

Alive Players | Total: 20 ▪️ - e_thsn (@Mike Meekins) wasted

wasted

- swurtle (@Larry Butz)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Adrian Andrews)

- sharleclaire (@Shi-Long Lang) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Ema Skye)

- captainluffy (@Clay Terran)

- kruthers (@Wocky Kitaki)

- lucas_lin_703 (@Lamiroir)

- shapechange (@Shoe the Cat)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Wendy Oldbag)

- sinisfuel (@Damon Gant)

- kalimoor (@Kay Faraday)

‍

- matstress (@Matt Engarde)

- alphaviki (@Athena Cykes)

- mrrfiish (@Phineas Filch)

- sniper__22 (@Missile the Dog)

- avaline. (@Olga Orly) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Blackquill)

- invincitank (@Will Powers) ❤️‍

- sarvak_deshnaur (@Raymond Shields (they/them)) (edited)

lucas, alpha, sniper, invi?

Invinci vlaimed assistant

oke

Uhhh

alpha will take absolutely forever to claim btw

00:07

perma afk

00:07

sniper will claim as soon as hes online

00:07

lucas idk

Shoe the Cat

lucas, alpha, sniper, invi?

Just those 3 are claimless?

should be

00:09

18 claims listed including the two dead, invi not listed, three unclaimed

00:09

all adds up

00:10

wait no that does not add up

00:10

no it does actually

00:10

bc one dead person we have no info on

Wait lami (lucas) (jokingly) claimed oracle xddd

00:11

But kruthers said they were wolfcub n1 check

i mean that would kinda add up

I hope

00:11

It was jokingly

00:11

But it doea add up

00:11

Ok

00:11

Kruthers said u were assistant

okay

00:12

so hes probs real

We can add him here now

00:12

?

ehhh

00:12

id hold off just a little longer

Aight

see if there's any counterclaims

But this means lami is our first confirmed scum

00:12

If theres no ctc

00:12

It also adds up with the oracle thing

lami is almost certainly scum but shouldnt be killed quite yet potentially

Shoe the Cat

lami is almost certainly scum but shouldnt be killed quite yet potentially

Nope

ethan is def not town and probably scum, could be www

We have other basically confirmed scum by now (edited)

00:13

Lami should be kept like very last

00:13

Also where do i tell the journos to put their stuff at

00:14

One to cit, one to assistant?

suso, sharl, and kruthers aren't yet ctc'd but we're missing claims, and we currently have no extraneous citizen claims

And we should check one of the hooker claims with oracle

Kay Faraday

Also where do i tell the journos to put their stuff at

for now i would point them all at assistant

Yeah

Kay Faraday

And we should check one of the hooker claims with oracle

well currently we only have one

Noh there are 2

oh yeah

00:15

alex

Suso and alex

@Raymond Shields (they/them) invi is an ass claim, alex is a hooker claim (currently listed as journo)

00:16

yeah we can oracle a hooker tomorrow

Thanks

Isnt it every night

yeah thats what i mean

Oracle [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same alignment as each other. Each player can only be selected once.

Details

Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same alignment. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Nonaligned roles have the same alignment as each other: roles with differing alignments do not. A nonaligned role does not have the same alignment as an aligned role. Some unaligned roles may gain alignments during the game (e.g. Cupid). The Oracle is not affected by disguises, but is affected by redirections.

Rn its night

okay something doesnt add up rn i feel

00:17

nvm its fine

00:17

we have 5 "extra" claims, 1 dead unknown, and 3 missing claims

00:18

that adds up to 9 scum

I can list all the claims again if needed

no its fine i think we're up to date now

@Raymond Shields (they/them) can you check between yourself and either alex or suso (both are 1x hooker claims)

sarv has already checked tonight though

00:19

we have to wait til tomorrow night

00:19

also kal make sure to do that inheritance cc

Whomst did they checc (edited)

if youre out of ccs i can do it

This is n2

me...

Where is the n2 info

and ethan

Whats the n1 check

00:20

Then

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Also I random checked the first night (I debated checking myself against someone to get an ally) and it said alpha and Lucas are the same alignment

.

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Raymond Shields (they/them)

Also I random checked the first night (I debated checking myself against someone to get an ally) and it said alpha and Lucas are the same alignment

Sob

no random check is good

Yuh

00:21

Uhhh

00:21

Waiy

honestly alpha/lucas is good bc theyre both unclaimed

Lucas

00:21

Was checked as cub

00:21

So careful there

OH YEAH

It's likely they're both scum

so we might know three scum already

Yeah

00:22

Alpha might be acum as well

00:22

We will see what they claim

00:22

If it doubly conflicts with anything

00:22

Thats our pair

if kruthers is real and lucas wasnt tanned d0, alpha is scum

Likely, kruthers is real

00:22

Oracle bypasses tanning

yes but ft doesnt

00:23

and ft is where we're getting the lucas scum info

Shoe the Cat

if kruthers is real and lucas wasnt tanned d0, alpha is scum

Why would they tan cub? They want cub killed

Same alignment Mmm

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Why would they tan cub? They want cub killed

No

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Why would they tan cub? They want cub killed

they could have tanned someone else as cub

They would tan the other person as ww

Ohhh

Therefore =

That makes sense

it would be a slightly unusual play tbh

I'll push for their claims

Yeah that would be weird

it relies on that person getting checked n1

Cause we wouldn't kill cub

Lucas,

so i kind of doubt lucas was tanned

Lucas alpha and sniper

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Cause we wouldn't kill cub

also true

Same

Our only unclaimed?

yes

I'm leaning alpha and Lucas are scum

me too

00:24

maybe put sharl on alpha

00:24

less likely to be www than ethan

Why on earth would www claim a 1x role

bc both www and rh are invulnerable to priest

oh

00:25

ohhhhhhhh

so priest watering a www who claimed rh, and can tan themself, would work well

00:25

wait

00:25

no

00:25

www is lycan

00:25

nvm

00:25

i lie

XD

Priest [Townsfolk Killing]

Basics

Each night, the Priest may use their holy water on a player. If that player is a lycan, that player will be attacked. Otherwise, the Priest risks their own death.

Details

If the targeted player is a lycan, they are attacked. If they are townsfolk aligned, the Priest dies. If they are not lycan and not townsfolk aligned, the target isn't attacked and both the Priest and the target live. Using holy water on a player is an end-night ability.

So what is our cum-list

00:26

I read huck as heavy cum

Edited main list to add it

00:27

Probable scum at the bottom

Yah

00:27

Ethan heavy cum as well

00:27

Lucas/alpha as likely cum pair

Very Likely Scum

@Mike Meekins (RH claim, checked against me)
@Athena Cykes (checked against lucas)
@Lamiroir (checked by probable FT as cub) Likely Scum
@Wendy Oldbag (reads, but ctc is also kind of scummy)
@Will Powers (reads, ctc is probably not pack)
@Larry Butz (reads)

1

Fish and luffy on mild

That works better

luffy almost certainly isnt pack

And also, i feel very good towards olga

he wouldnt have scuffed the huntress ctc

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 9-10-2024 00:29

i feel great about ava (edited)

00:29

he could be cf though

Edited out of mine

Shoe the Cat

luffy almost certainly isnt pack

It's more like he was against lynching uhhhh

00:30

The rh claim

eh i dont think he really was

Fish just cuz asking for claims n1 lol

Shoe the Cat

eh i dont think he really was

He was being non-commital He was suggesting making it reporter

00:30

Like wtf

he's a lil scummy to me bc he hasnt gone super hard on the contributions

00:30

but if he is scum hes probably cf

Oh yeah who's our reporter nominee

+ he has asked me weird things

Jay cause they can redirect sabo?

bc again, if luffy was pack he would 100% have gotten someone to ctc huntress

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Jay cause they can redirect sabo?

ive redirected sabo tonight

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Jay cause they can redirect sabo?

Can they do so more than once?

so we know im safe tomorrow

Okk

plus im a boring role

So jay

Yeah Luffy is too solid of a player

BUT this relies on kal not dying

Become mayor if i die

00:31

Im placing my knife on huck

all the journo claims are so scummy to me

Kay Faraday

Im placing my knife on huck

no dont

00:31

go for ethan or alpha

Why

00:31

Mmmm

they're practically confirmed scum

I wiould rather ethan

whereas huck is more chaotic and hard to read

Luffy would have organised pack by now, we would have basically no sussed scum outside of alpha and Lucas cause of ti

Ok emergency switch it is

put sharl/any other priest claim on alpha

00:32

and yourself on ethan

Oh just dies

00:32

Thought it was lynch

00:33

Oh yeah I'm guessing we're lynching Ethan tomorrow

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Luffy would have organised pack by now, we would have basically no sussed scum outside of alpha and Lucas cause of ti

yeah i feel like if luffy was pack we'd have seen way better claim organising from wolves

Shoe the Cat

yeah i feel like if luffy was pack we'd have seen way better claim organising from wolves

Exactly

we'll see who dies and lynch ethan > alpha > some other sus

I'm also inclined to believe fish is town

We have 2 lynches

Fish does stupid plays when they're wolf

oh shit true

I literally dread having them on pack

hes only been pack once i swear

Shoe the Cat

oh shit true

We can lynch huck and uhhh

Their play so far has been chill

and that was like his second game

Idk we dont have another strong sus

Shoe the Cat

hes only been pack once i swear

Yeah and it was a nightmare

00:34

I was in pack that game

he's played a million games since

00:34

and he's a great player tbh

00:34

so honestly i think he'd be way way better at pack now

Maybe I'm biased

Lmao

I took a break after that game I think

Ok sharl is ready

So maybe I missed their games since

yeah no hes been cool since

Apologies in that case

Kay Faraday

Ok sharl is ready

put that bad buoy on alpha

00:35

hey no worries i remember that fish game lol

00:35

i dont blame u

00:40

should we bite the bullet and add kruthers here

00:41

for more Intellect

00:41

but what if he's fake....

00:41

but like. no way he's fake right

Who do i tell the heralds to herald

uhhhh

Shoe the Cat

but like. no way he's fake right

Well he checked u as assistant

00:42

AND

that would be almost impossible to do as scum

Did hit a potentially scummy person

00:42

AND

and ft is so hard to fake

00:42

in this list

Oracle put the potentially scummy person along with someone claimless

00:42

AND

he HAS to be real

ft is a super risky claim

00:42

So like

00:42

99.5% sure hes ft

yeah lets just do it

Imagine sniper is ft

00:43

if kruthers is scum then how he knew i was assistant is beyond me

00:43

unless sarv is fake

00:43

but sarv isnt fake right

Oh oh

00:43

Wait up

Shoe the Cat

if kruthers is scum then how he knew i was assistant is beyond me

Listen up

00:43

Hes 100% real

00:43

Because they sabod u

00:44

No way he guesses u as assistant

00:44

If hes scum

i didnt have a target for most of D0

LOL

so if cf checked me d0 and found pack d1

00:44

it's theoretically possible

Because... Ww wouldnt target u with ability

but thats such an unlikely chain of events

What is cf

clairvoyant fox

what

00:44

is there

00:44

claivorant

00:45

this

00:45

game

Clairvoyant Fox [Werewolf Investigative]

Basics

Each day, the Clairvoyant Fox may investigate one player, and the results will be known to both them and the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Clairvoyant Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf.

Details

When the Clairvoyant Fox investigates a player, they see that player's role. If the Clairvoyant Fox survives the day, the result of the investigation is also announced to the wolfpack at the start of the night. The wolfpack only sees the result and that it is from a Clairvoyant Fox - they don't know who was checked. The Clairvoyant Fox is neither a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Clairvoyant Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not investigate that day, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack and investigating a player are immediate abilities. The investigation is affected by weak disguises and redirections.

ong...

god im just adding him

00:45

idc at this point

Well no you'd have just redirected him

00:45

Ezpz

but i didnt have a target d0

00:45

still its so unlikely

Shoe the Cat

but i didnt have a target d0

It checks at night no

and so bold

00:46

no

00:46

day

Day....

00:46

a

also kruthers would organise pack well imo

Well go ahead

00:46

Full on leap faith boots

✅ Added @Wocky Kitaki to the CC!

Hiii

kruthers we're not being boring this game

00:46

we're being fun

Pls don't tell paxk our secrets pls pls

and trusting people we probably shouldn't be

Shoe the Cat

and trusting people we probably shouldn't be

tbh we have done that twice

yeah

00:46

well u have

Yes

00:46

so i'm continuing the tradition

We will run out of luck and die to pack i swear

00:47

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1234689853040496731.gif?size=60

Embedded image

oh for sure

Kalimoor - huntress (confirmed) Invincitank - assistant (!!) Shapechange - assistant (confirmed) Olga - citizen Sarvak - Oracle (confirmed) Mats - herald (!!) Poke - citizen Ethan - rh Kruthers - ft (confirmed) Swurtle - journo (!!) Sharl - priest Luffy - assistant (!!) Huck - herald (!!) Alex - hooker (!!) Suso - hooker (!!) Sinisfuel - journo (!!) Fish - journo (!!) (edited)

00:50

These are all the claims

00:50

We know another huntress is dead

00:52

Roles without !! Are uncontested/fit the amount

lucas is online

00:52

bug him for a claim

Shoe the Cat

and trusting people we probably shouldn't be

Yeah playing too cautious has almost cost me multiple games

00:53

Gotta be a little risky

00:53

Or we wouldn't have this solid TT

Ok

00:54

So like

00:54

Lucas is bad LOL

yeah for sure lmaooo

Ill tell sharl to water alpha now

this is great we have three confirmed non-town

00:55

and they're probably all wolf

If alpha dies sharl is confirmed

LUCAS PUBLIC CLAIMED

Basically

Raymond Shields (they/them)

LUCAS PUBLIC CLAIMED

Yes And oracle

Wait we can use him

How so

sarv btw if youre scum youre insane

I could approach him but

Shoe the Cat

sarv btw if youre scum youre insane

No way he is JUST LOOK AT LUCAS

We can get him to check 2 sussed scum

oh yeah

If he says they're different to throw us off their scent, we know they're scum

go ask him for his checks

Okok

00:56

Wait up

If he says they're the same, they're probably trying to get us to Sus a town with a scum

Shoe the Cat

sarv btw if youre scum youre insane

I actually wish I was cause it'd be an easy mvp

00:56

If I was wolf this game, I'd literally never let anyone forget it

00:57

"remember that one time I created TT by faking oracle and pretending to trust jay?"

if you are wolf you are slaying and i respect it so hard

but i fully think you are not

No that would require insane luck as well

yeah

00:58

and also extreme braincells

Kay Faraday

No that would require insane luck as well

Btw make Lucas think you believe him

00:58

Say we have no oracle ctc, drop that you sussed someone they checked etc

00:58

Get them to believe they're feeding us bad information

00:59

Cause then we know what information they want us to know

00:59

Also, I'm fully willing to believe Luffy is town now

00:59

Luffy would not allow this clownery

00:59

Luffy 100000% would organise pack better than this, they're definitely town

01:00

01:00

What are they doinnnngg?

Yeah no rationale is going to help

01:01

He doesn't even want to cc me

01:01

️

sorry guys im having to investigate RACISM now

IM WHEEZING WHAT IS THAT CHECK

01:03

wait

01:03

this means that

Shoe the Cat

sorry guys im having to investigate RACISM now

WAHT

being a werewolves player is my secondary duty. my first commitment is always to making sure there are no racists in wwr

Whos the racist???

01:05

Lemme know so I can "have a conversation" with them.

okay good news there was no racism

01:06

just someone being extremely annoying

Ok sarvak don't talk that much in town square to not attrct much attention

01:06

They could gleam uur the actual oracle

01:06

Sob

Kay Faraday

They could gleam uur the actual oracle

Fair

01:07

I tried to show I'm not by like taking their claim seriously

01:07

But I could be doing it poorly

01:09

I hope that was good?

01:09

I'm bad at pretending not to be important

01:09

My VIP status is just inate

i think it was good

Fish said his code is "waga baga bobo"

01:10

Sinisfuel said their code is

~~url~~

(edited)

This gif

TOMATO

Tomato...

01:12

Btw if sharl waters successfully we just spawned in another tt

01:12

I point my knife to ethan yes

Ye

Uhhh

01:22

Herald on priest or hooker

01:22

I'd say hooker noh

01:23

?

01:24

Uhh

01:24

Oracle

code: deez nuts from swurtle

I'm going to bed

01:40

It's late and I have classes tomorrow

01:40

Someone give me a tldr in the morning please

01:40

Be safe

01:40

Sleep well

01:40

Don't be stupid, do drugs

01:40

Be gay, burn government buildings down and assassinate fascists

Okaa

01:46

Lmao

01:46

Sleep well sarvak

01:46

Can we soft clear the cit claims if nobody else claims cit

Kay Faraday

Can we soft clear the cit claims if nobody else claims cit

not quite bc of unknown dead person

Okok

@Raymond Shields (they/them) sniper claimed assistant aswell

03:41

2 cums in those ass claims

03:44

Invinci, sniper, luffy, you feel good about luffy cuz they wouldn't allow this to happen to pack? What abt packless xd

03:45

Well we have the full claimlist now!

03:46

Excepf alpha buf they dont matter because we are leaping of faithing theh re 99.99999% scum

Oh also

05:23

I think I'm pretty sure i'm dead tonight Ww won't want (town) reporter if ethan is scum and the dead would basically ctc him (and im 95% sure val was rh lmoa)

05:24

So if I don't die it's likely wolves will try to push for scum rep

05:26

Well

05:26

It might be worth convincing ethan that I believe him

05:27

That might just be enough for them to not kill me ~~even though I'm better dead by ww~~ so we get repo Then flip it over

Alpha claimed cum

06:16

I mean priest

06:16

I'll tell them tp water someone stupuid

06:18

Wait

06:18

Wait wait wait

06:18

We can prove an assistant claim with this

06:18

Because alpha claimed cum

06:18

I mean priest

06:18

Means they will sabo priest likely

06:18

Aka 1v1

06:18

But instead i fakeout

06:19

I disyrust luffy assistant claim the most

06:20

Talks like hes extracting info off me

The High Priestess

Her appearance in a reading can signify that it is time for you to listen to your intuition rather than prioritizing your intellect and conscious mind.

Ohhh ma ga

06:20

Yes see

06:20

Fortune says tell them luffy is priest!

06:22

Why this works, cuz they would sabo the hard-clear

06:22

In their eyes

06:23

We wait and see by reactions

06:25

If luffy gets feedback then they are practically clear

06:29

If not and people push towards luffy repo at just a mere mention (no ping/paragraph or whatever, assuming i die) then we document them Among them is pack

06:30

And luffy could be leaning scum depending on their reaction aswell

06:30

Let it be known I do sus them as scum

Hello

hi kruthers

10:59

are you scum

No

@Shoe the Cat did Kali leave you a trusted cc?

yes

12:45

dw

12:45

also i think sharl is proven

probably gonna go for assistant lynches today

✅ Added @Shi-Long Lang to the CC!

list is pinned

oh great

technically sarv and kruthers aren't fully fully confirmed, but sarv is like 99% and kruthers is 98%

Shoe the Cat

list is pinned

I should be confirmed on the pinned list now

sarv will update it when they wake up

Shoe the Cat

technically sarv and kruthers aren't fully fully confirmed, but sarv is like 99% and kruthers is 98%

I see

we've got a confirmed scum in lucas

14:16

but he's cub so

hmmmmmm

one of ethan or val (probably val) was rh and the other was scum

ah I see

14:17

we've lost both huntresses

yeah i mean that was known

14:18

uhhh we can confirm either the herald business or the hooker business tonight, and the other one the night after hopefully

14:18

i lean towards confirming the hooker

14:19

luffy, alpha, and invi all claim assistant but I'm confirmed assistant so i lean towards lynching two of them

14:19

not alpha

14:19

sniper

14:19

alpha claimed priest lol

14:23

i think invi is scum

14:23

the election vote when wolves think I'm sabotaged is suspicious, esp when no-one else is voting

Shoe the Cat

luffy, alpha, and invi all claim assistant but I'm confirmed assistant so i lean towards lynching two of them

how did you get confirmed?

Shoe the Cat

alpha claimed priest lol

lmao

Shi-Long Lang

how did you get confirmed?

sarv checked me against ethan and claimed to me, then ethan was an rh claim

14:40

i also redirected a sab last night

ah lol

14:40

at who?

I'm not 100% mechanically confirmed, but it's a combo of reads and mechanics

14:40

alpha

lmao

@Participant thinking of invi lynch, sniper/luffy lynch, and either suso or alex mayor. thoughts?

14:58

I'll tell the heralds to target assistant

idk much about luffy and invi

What have susp and Alex claimed?

sniper seems fine

hooker

anyone mayor is fine

maybe we should go for a more unexpected mayor though

Heya

14:59

Sorry I didn't interact much today

Shoe the Cat

@Participant thinking of invi lynch, sniper/luffy lynch, and either suso or alex mayor. thoughts?

Could be worth it to have a scum mayor to guarantee reporter, then have priest kill them later, maybe?

15:00

Or is the double lynch more valuable?

I mean a hooker mayor should also live

15:01

And given one is scum we may get a scum mayor anyway

Shoe the Cat

luffy, alpha, and invi all claim assistant but I'm confirmed assistant so i lean towards lynching two of them

Alpha is confirmed scum cause they're same as Lucas who's basically confirmed scum. If we lynch alpha and invi (I genuinely believe Luffy couldn't be pack with how bad pack has been this game) then we have can make better use of our limited TI checks

alpha is dead

15:02

sharl got him last night

15:02

i meant sniper not alpha

Oh sorry

15:02

Oh so that's why sharl is confined makes sense

I'm torn between sniper and luffy but leaning sniper

What's the logic behind believing sniper?/genq

15:03

Luffy could just be playing badly, or hasn't had a lot of time to organise pack

15:03

Or people could be ignoring them

15:04

I know I'm harping on about Luffy being town but it's possible I'm missing something

15:04

So if you think sniper has good reasons to read as town it's worth hearing them

the only thing is thatd id expect cf to maybe claim assistant

15:04

and i dont think Luffy has been super townie

15:04

so he could be cf

15:04

but i also don't think sniper has been townie so im leaning towards him and invi

Is there a role we 100% need confirmed?

15:05

There's a good chance I'm dead soon and I'd like to use my guaranteed confirm by then

15:05

So if there's a role we're prioritising it'd be helpful to know it

we should probably go for either hooker or herald

15:06

leaning towards hooker

Hooker would be good to confirm

kruthers if youre scum I'll be mad

Lol

So am I checking Alex?

yeah

Ok I've delayed it

huck very very likely scum now

18:33

he's casting doubt on my being trusted in ccs according to invi

Hum (edited)

thinking of switching to him

18:36

but at the same time. it's huck.

What did they claim?

huck claims herald

18:37

ctc is mat who feels townie i would say

18:38

I'm also leaning towards real hooker being suso bc alex seems to think alpha was def killed by www

I recon we keep huck alive for now

18:39

who do we have the journalists targeting? (edited)

I don't know actually

18:43

i think maybe assistant

18:44

ugh i feel way better about invi now

18:45

but that immediate rep vote on me just felt off

We could get them to target hooker or herald

we'll prove hooker tonight

ok

okay nvm huck seems like very scummy to me

18:48

i asked him if he had any reads on invi and he said he "made a cc to mock him" but didnt mention anything about conspiring with him

Jay, I think switching back and forth is going to give scum a lot of confidence

19:22

Huck is very scum to me

19:23

But we should stick with the final switch

huck was very very scummy to me UNTIL his genuine annoyance

We confirm hooker tonight, we get reporter in either you, me or actual hooker if Alex is fake

yeah we're 100% getting rep tomorrow i think

We have no protection unfortunately

19:24

Very easy for wolves to just kill mayor all game

mayor is either wolf or hooker

19:25

if he's wolf, www might kill him

19:25

which would suck

Yeah sorry that's what I was refering to

19:25

Very possible WW kills them, or even worse convinces pack to do it

ive never seen huck actually get annoyed at the game before

19:28

it's so out of character

19:30

im more stressed than usual bc i really really just do not have time for this game

19:32

kruthers should probably check either mat or a journo claim tonight

19:34

sniper and suso still voting huck over invi - sniper at least i think has been around since i asked for the switch

19:39

tomorrow i would say lynch swurtle and maybe fish

19:39

oh nvm only one lynch tomorrow

19:39

probably swurtle

@Raymond Shields (they/them) if it turns out alex was sabotaged, dont check him

Shoe the Cat

kruthers should probably check either mat or a journo claim tonight

can do, whats mat claimed again? (edited)

herald

22:02

but dont check yet

Shoe the Cat

@Raymond Shields (they/them) if it turns out alex was sabotaged, dont check him

Wait why not? We still want to confirm hooker, right?

Shoe the Cat

but dont check yet

all good

so who we yeeting tongiht?

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Wait why not? We still want to confirm hooker, right?

because if alex was sabo'd it suggests he's wolf

22:16

the chances of wolves magically hitting the hooker with a sab are low

22:17

@Raymond Shields (they/them) go ahead with your check now

Shi-Long Lang

so who we yeeting tongiht?

depends

22:17

if suso is scum, suso

22:17

if alex is scum, probably not alex - will depend on ft check

lol ok

22:18

just tag me ig

22:19

with full reasoning lol

yah

Shoe the Cat

@Raymond Shields (they/them) go ahead with your check now

So am I checking Alex to confirm hooker or am I checking someone else?

22:25

Or am I checking 2 claims to see if they match alignments?

Raymond Shields (they/them)

So am I checking Alex to confirm hooker or am I checking someone else?

alex

22:26

best case scenario alex is town, but i think he might be scum

22:26

he seems so certain that www attacked

We're same

22:28

So he's confirmed town

great

Other hooker is scum

22:28

Wait

22:28

Let's not kill them yet

22:28

We can use the fact we know they're scum to check a different claim

✅ Added @Adrian Andrews to the CC!

Raymond Shields (they/them)

We can use the fact we know they're scum to check a different claim

no we cant

22:28

one check per person

Other hooker

22:28

I checked myself against alex

true

We can check the other hooker against someone

but we need to prioritise getting scum out

22:29

we can still check someone against sharl remember

If they're different, non-hooker is town

and kruthers

hello

@Shi-Long Lang attack suso - we checked alex and he's town, so suso is scum

oh ok

oh so i had a hooker ctc

what is alex role?

yep

22:30

hooker

ah ok

22:30

great

You sleeping with anyone tonight?

he will do

sus

yes

Alive Players | Total: 15 wasted

wasted

- swurtle (@Larry Butz)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Adrian Andrews)

- sharleclaire (@Shi-Long Lang) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Ema Skye)

- captainluffy (@Clay Terran)

- kruthers (@Wocky Kitaki)

- lucas_lin_703 (@Lamiroir)

- shapechange (@Shoe the Cat)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Wendy Oldbag)

- sinisfuel (@Damon Gant)

‍

- matstress (@Matt Engarde)

- mrrfiish (@Phineas Filch)

- avaline. (@Olga Orly) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Blackquill) ❤️‍

- sarvak_deshnaur (@Raymond Shields (they/them)) (edited)

We're pretty sure myself or jay will be targeted

i was thinking maybe austria

So don't sleep with us best bet

i wasnt going to

definitely don't sleep with suso

Lol

the dead unknown (turtle's huntress kill) was probably either cit, scum, or ft

22:31

but we're just assuming kruthers is the real ft

22:31

bc he got my role right N2

22:31

so uh if hes scum. rip

no other ft came forward

22:31

?

Yeah we're playing a little risky for the sake of fun

Adrian Andrews

no other ft came forward

nope

22:31

tbf

22:31

ft claim would be very odd for wolves

so

kruthers cf, dead ft

or

kruthers ft and we chill

Shoe the Cat

ft claim would be very odd for wolves

There's equal chance shar is www tbf

i didnt even consider that

22:33

wait no its not possible

22:33

bc if sharl is www then alpha was priest

22:33

(alpha couldnt be wolf bc then pack would have double-claimed)

Oh wait yeah

22:40

I didn't consider that

22:40

Me dumb

22:40

You smart

22:40

Apologies

both herald claims said they got no assistant ping

22:42

expected but sad :(

22:42

however if sarv doesnt die tonight then we can confirm one of them

22:43

@Participant who were we thinking kruthers should check? i was gonna go for a journo maybe

hold on i gotta move discord on my main monitor for this

theoretically, if we're all town (which mathematically i am 99% sure we are), then there's one fake journo, one fake herald, probably one other fake journo/cit, and potentially one luffy left as scum

22:49

~~ethan/val~~ lucas - cub ~~alpha~~ suso mat/huck ~~sniper/invi/luffy~~ sniper/invi/luffy sinisfuel/swurtle/fish one extra (could have been the dead guy) (edited)

22:49

after tonight we will have maximum five living scum

and if not extra its one of the cits?

no extra includes the cits

22:50

extra could be any of the cits, any of the journos, any of the assistants, and the dead guy

22:50

however considering how pack has spread out its claims i suspect that one of the cits or the dead guy is/was scum

Shoe the Cat

after tonight we will have maximum five living scum

we could have as few as three if turtle was based and luffy is real

Shoe the Cat

@Participant who were we thinking kruthers should check? i was gonna go for a journo maybe

Probably one of the heralds? It's kind of impossible to actually trust FT info since we have 2 sabos

22:55

Tanners

22:55

Not sabs

22:55

Brain

up to 3 potentially

Yeah exactly cause of www

22:56

Getting rid of fox should be a priority, especially if they're in contact with pack

22:56

Fox probably claimed something non-invasive to the claim space

22:56

Rocking the boat gets them targeted

wouldnt fox be an assistant claim

22:56

since there was 2 fake assistants (edited)

Adrian Andrews

since there was 2 fake assistants (edited)

almost certainly

22:57

it looks like pack claimed one of every role (cit, journo, assistant, herald, hooker, priest, oracle, rh)

reasonable

given the fairly wide claiming possibility it would indeed be odd if two pack claimed assistant

wait who was the priest claim

alpha

ah

22:59

oh that's what you mean by double-claiming

22:59

i didnt know alpha's claim

honestly it probably wouldnt be a bad move to lynch luffy tomorrow

22:59

that way we'd know we had two scums out

22:59

but if we can find a scum tonight thats better

22:59

opinions on mat vs journo check?

why mat

23:00

am i missing something

herald v herald

23:00

it's a 50/50 rather than a 66/33 too

oh wait we have a ft check left not oracle

Shoe the Cat

honestly it probably wouldnt be a bad move to lynch luffy tomorrow

if suso doesn't die we can lynch him and find out if luffy was fake by reporter info

23:02

tanners aren't lycans

Pack Tanner [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each day, the Pack Tanner may disguise one player as a role of the Pack Tanner’s choosing.

Details

Each day, the Pack Tanner can weakly disguise one player; the night after, to roles affected by weak disguises, their role will appear to be what the Pack Tanner has disguised the player as. The Pack Tanner may disguise themself, but they may not disguise the same player twice in a row. Disguising a player is an immediate effect. If the Pack Tanner dies, the assigned player will keep their disguise for the night. The player loses their disguise at the end of the night. The Pack Tanner is not a lycan, but is part of the wolfpack.

ughhhh

23:03

true

imo lets do herald check here

we can at least lynch him

23:03

yeah okay

23:03

@Wocky Kitaki check mat please

after we have reporter info we can commit both TIs to solving the reporter 1/3

23:04

(ideally some tanners died already)

ideally ethan and one of invi/sniper were tanners

23:04

the problem is choosing a reporter though

23:04

youll def be sabotaged

Shoe the Cat

he seems so certain that www attacked

i just thought it was really unlikely to have enough information that we'd commit a priest attack so early

and if i live i probably will be too

Adrian Andrews

i just thought it was really unlikely to have enough information that we'd commit a priest attack so early

okay fair

yeah since we're the 2 public claims it's safe to assume we're both sabo'd

23:05

well not so much a claim in my case

23:06

at that point just give it to one of the TIs

23:06

or the herald if mat comes up as scum

true

23:06

we could give it to kruthers if sarv lives

23:06

considering pts he's not the most useful

reporter gives us way too much info here to risk it

23:07

getting journalists to be targeted could also help

cant really trust the journos though

yea

23:08

maybe later on with guardian

Shoe the Cat

considering pts he's not the most useful

I think me being rep makes more sense. If we get tanners out, FT is gonna be more valuable and I already have a target on my back. Rep is useful for an immediate burst of information and putting a target on someone who doesn't have one will just get us both killed

tbf it seems like wolves may be dumb

23:13

i genuinely think they may not have picked up on your vibes

Maybe but we gotta play like they're smart

it basically all depends on how many pack tanners we think we have out

23:13

bc there's def 2, maybe 3 (www) (edited)

23:13

and as long as one exists we can't trust a good chunk of kruther's info

Yeah, but I feel like we play to a good case scenario

23:14

If we rep and reveal we lynched both, it'll feel much worse knowing our FT is probably dead now

realistically, if suso dies to priest tonight then we have at least one pt living

reasonable to assume that pack tanners disguise packs into their claims and not randoms into wolves right?

Adrian Andrews

reasonable to assume that pack tanners disguise packs into their claims and not randoms into wolves right?

pretty reasonable

Yeah

23:14

Thats general tanner strategy

so ft finding scum is pretty reliable

during endgame it can sometimes go the other way

23:15

but at this stage theyll likely be disguising themselves

23:18

we could also check austria

23:18

i would peg austria and swurtle as scum potentially

23:18

but tbh it could easily be fish instead of swurtle

do we sus matt?

Shi-Long Lang

do we sus matt?

mat and huck are counterclaims

isnt it better to find herald than to find citizen

its hard to differentiate between them imo

Adrian Andrews

isnt it better to find herald than to find citizen

herald is more likely to be disguised

ok. Imma just fuck around in town square so that people don't try and kill me tonight

Shoe the Cat

herald is more likely to be disguised

true

ft check is instant right?

yes

23:31

im in way too many ccs

the fate of the tt

Mat came back as herald

shocker

23:33

knew we should have checked austria

23:33

oh well

23:33

if suso doesn't die tonight, lynch suso

23:33

if suso does die, lynch probably luffy, maybe austria or swurtle

23:34

or fish

23:34

one of those four i would say

surely priest won't hit immunity 3 nights in a row again :^)

i think sinisfuel and ava are town, i think heralds we should leave for a potential oracle check

Adrian Andrews

surely priest won't hit immunity 3 nights in a row again :^)

HEY I GOT THERE EVENTUALLY

23:35

it's so funny that we're tt together again though

let's go for 3 in a row

Shoe the Cat

if suso does die, lynch probably luffy, maybe austria or swurtle

if we do luffy we know that we've got two scum out from the assistant claims so

we'd also be almost sure cf is out

23:36

it's a good lynch (edited)

yeah

23:36

suso is a better lynch if needed though

yeah of course

23:36

dont want to lose majo anytime soon

23:38

journal still gets passed on when we lynch right? journalist lynches could also work

23:39

as far as getting info goes they might be even better

of the nine scum, we think they claimed:

cit claim (probably austria or ~~deadguy~~) [pack]
~~assistant claim (probably sniper) [pack]~~
assistant claim (~~invi~~ or luffy) [cf]
~~riding hood claim (ethan or val) [pack (pt?)]~~
~~priest claim (alpha) [pack, lycan]~~
hooker claim (suso) [pack]
journalist claim (probably fish or swurtle) [pack]
herald claim (huck or mat) [pack]
oracle claim (lucas) [pack, cub]

Shoe the Cat pinned a message to this channel. 9-10-2024 23:41

lynch fake journalist -> we know easily lynch true journalist -> easy confirmation for herald/citizen

true

23:41

still, i feel like it's more numbers we want rn

as long as we hold a decent number majority it's a really good lynch

rather than info

yeah

23:41

it's just a good strat to keep in mind

i would say leave journo lynches til the day after

23:41

yeah

so basically

23:42

suso dies -> lynch 50-50
suso lives -> lynch suso

23:42

day after if we dont have confirmed scum we lynch journal

23:43

we have so many tactics available it feels to good to be true

when lynching journos, be confident your reporter candidate is not sabotaged

how is that related

well bc otherwise you cant be fully sure if you lynched a true journo or not

you can

and a fake journo may pass along a fake code to a fellow pack member

ah

23:44

i didn't consider that

23:44

so we hope they didn't soulread sarvak or kruthers

23:44

and sabo'd them

23:45

keep in mind if me or jay get attacked tonight then only one sabo will be on us, the other is still at random

23:45

if you think they're sussing sarvak we'll have no choice but to give reporter to kruthers (edited)

suso died

10:58

we've got pack tanners to deal with it seems

10:59

@Raymond Shields (they/them) who have you not used oracle on, we gotta figure out who to give reporter

Can we get a list of all claims we have currently and who we have confirmed

The ones currently pinned are pretty up to date

11:45

Vienna added me to a cc and asked for my claim lmao

11:45

Not sure if it's scummy but it is really funny

Vienna

Wait was it Austria

11:49

Lmao

11:49

Well regardless, she's pushing me really hard for a role now

11:51

I think we should do it like this: Kruthers/sharl/sarvak reporter Luffy hangs At night oracle checks 2 of the 3 journalist claims and ft checks a 50-50

11:51

@Participant thoughts?

Adrian Andrews

I think we should do it like this: Kruthers/sharl/sarvak reporter Luffy hangs At night oracle checks 2 of the 3 journalist claims and ft checks a 50-50

I mean I checked mat last night may be worth us both checking journalists tonight so we can get one of them in a role that will get them killed

I'll explain my reaaoning in a bit

I mean we should wait until we have reporter info before deciding who to check anyway

12:13

As it may clear some of our 50/50s

12:13

It would make sense for me to be reporter as pack tanner does reduce my ability

12:15

Both priests and oracle have more use then me

12:16

And if we can clear a journalist tonight we could reveal them as trusted before phase change to try and bait out pack

Wocky Kitaki

Both priests and oracle have more use then me

i agree

12:58

checking 2 journalist claims with eachother is always going to be a positive for us:

same alignment: they're both town and the third claim is confirmed wolf
different alignment: the third journalist is confirmed town and we're left with a 50-50

(edited)

12:58

also mat just told me the last assistant died last night

12:59

if we're to believe her then luffy is confirmed scum, though we were going to hang luffy regardless

Adrian Andrews

checking 2 journalist claims with eachother is always going to be a positive for us:

same alignment: they're both town and the third claim is confirmed wolf
different alignment: the third journalist is confirmed town and we're left with a 50-50

(edited)

the only reason not to do this is that we can 100% solve a 50-50 with oracle tonight

Adrian Andrews

@Raymond Shields (they/them) who have you not used oracle on, we gotta figure out who to give reporter

I've only used it on me, you, jay, Ethan, Lucas and alpha

13:02

So everyone else is available

okay we are chilling and definitely keeping you alive as long as we can

Sharl is our 100% confirmed town so we can use them as a confirm

13:03

Kruthers is basically confirmed but I'm just wary

if we check 2 journalists we get another confirmed town

13:03

unless dead townie was journalist

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Kruthers is basically confirmed but I'm just wary

i'm also wary

13:03

who did oyu check n1

13:03

alpha and lucas?

Yeah

13:04

And they returned they're the same

we know sharl is confirmed priest because he got kills 2 nights in a row, cant be scum we know alpha is scum because sharl watered him we know lucas is same alignment as alpha kruthers checked lucas n1 and it came up as cub

Then jay against Ethan, who were different.

all info checks out

Then me against you

13:05

And we're

13:05

Same

13:05

Kruthers would have to get so fucking lucky is the thing

yeah

Like to get that Lucas was cub

13:05

And he checked jay and knew jay was assistant

13:06

Like that's not realistic to just guess

13:06

Like that's basically confirmation

13:06

I'm trying to be less paranoid

13:06

I say we just believe kruthers

13:06

If they're scum they deserve a win after such insane guesses

i mean if he's pack he'd know lucas was cub, the jay assistant read would still be wild (edited)

13:07

and jay died so he's confirmed town (edited)

13:07

so gambling on assistant being made tt makes absolutely no sense

Yeah

13:09

If we wanna be absolutely 10000% sure we could check sharl against kruthers

13:09

But that wastes our confirmed check

13:09

And if they return same we also wasted a kruthers check for another confirmed

13:10

And it wastes 2 nights

13:10

Which are already valuable

13:10

Sorry wastes 1 night

13:10

But still

i mean we could give you reporter if we wanted to be 100% safe but i agree with kruthers, oracle is way more valuable in this end game

13:10

you have sharl

13:10

and then we also have a confirmed journalist

Wait we do?

13:11

Who?

uhhh

13:11

not rn

13:11

we need one night to at least confirm one journalist and if we get lucky confirm both and a scum

Adrian Andrews

checking 2 journalist claims with eachother is always going to be a positive for us:

same alignment: they're both town and the third claim is confirmed wolf
different alignment: the third journalist is confirmed town and we're left with a 50-50

(edited)

.

13:12

problem is unless we have reporter we cant be sure wolves didnt just double claim journalist

13:12

though i very much doubt that

Oh I thought you meant we had one to be reproter

since nobody came forward

13:12

no

13:12

sadly not yet

13:12

ideally we give reporter to kruthers, they die

13:12

and then we give it to a journalist

13:12

to confirm another 50-50

That plan makes the most sense

13:13

Who's kruthers checked so far?

problem is the infinitely small chance kruthers is having the best scum game ever

13:13

lucas, jay, mat

Adrian Andrews

problem is the infinitely small chance kruthers is having the best scum game ever

Yeah which when you put it like that it sounds stupid to doubt him

btw mat gave me herald info that last assistant died last night (jay) (edited)

Like realistically we wouldn't be having this conversation. No one counter claimed him, he's gotten the right assistant guess

Adrian Andrews

btw mat gave me herald info that last assistant died last night (jay) (edited)

Did kruthers get that mat was herald?

yes

13:14

mat came up as herald last night

Wait why don't we make you reporter?

13:15

You're probably gonna die for being mayor soon anyway

cause i was tt so its likely they sabo'd me

Oh yeah

im hooker im pretty unlikely to die

Crud

13:15

I forgot about sabo

also

Sorry my brains all over

sharl got a kill twice in a row, so neither of those kills could have been sabo

13:16

realistically at most one sabo died but its also very possible both are alive

Fair

13:16

And www could have picked sabo

13:16

So we could have 3

doesnt www get random role?

13:16

but yeah regardless its possible

Random of the present

13:17

So 3 wolves 3 sabos 3 tanners or 2 cubs

13:17

We kind of have to play like all of those are present

13:17

Cause any of them could be

hello ppl

13:17

Sussy susso is gone

13:17

yay

cant be 2 cubs

13:18

www copies the most numerous role

13:18

if theres multiple it picks one of them at random

13:18

so 3 wolves 3 sabos 3 tanners

13:18

tanners we don't really care about

Oh yeah

13:18

Brain not braining

it also an option to give sharl reporter and sacrifice priest now

I'm gonna stop talking before I make myself look scummy

then we'd have to lynch correctly but we can guarantee correct reporter info (edited)

13:19

and with 2 TIs left in end-game im not worried about mislynches

I don't think that's worth it. If we do fuck up and wolves draw parity with us, or the smarter ones get people to doubt town trusted, we lose our ability to win

13:20

Actually

13:20

No

13:20

Ignore me

13:20

It's our only way to guarantee reporter info really

calm down and go sleep

It's mid day

Raymond Shields (they/them)

It's mid day

and why should that stop you

Gonna go eat something

@Adrian Andrews you're going for reporter as well I guess?

okay so our options:

kruthers reporter, really really low chance they're scum but we're left with 2 strong roles in endgame if they die
sarvak reporter, possibly sabo'd and oracle is worth more than ft, confirmed correct info
sharl reporter, priest dies and we can send them to one last priest suicide mission but then we can't afford mislynches, confirmed correct info

(edited)

13:22

this is assuming whoever we make reporter today will die

I would love to be reporter but also, not good to make priest reporter

its a tradeoff

also, I've tried to act sussy in public

13:22

so don't make me reporter lmao

13:23

hooker reporter is the best right

i cant

13:23

im the most likely to be sabo'd

hmmmm

13:23

Sarvak then

so we risk losing oracle early?

13:24

then we have to resolve 50-50s with ft and priest

13:24

i like our chances tbh

13:24

right now i trust mat A LOT more than huck for hooker

Yeah I'm not a good choice. Likely to be sabod for how I acted early and losing oracle is worse than losing ft with potentially 3 tanners

and we still have journalists to solve them

13:24

imo we're in such a strong position that we could afford making kruthers reporter

13:25

they had a lot of chances to betray and would have had to get really lucky with reads to be this trusted (edited)

13:25

and even if they're scum we can realistically just power through with numbers

13:25

im not announcing who i sleep with here

We could time our abilities? I check sharl against kruthers, if they're different, sharl waters them. Scum get reporter info but we can elect a confirmed town for reporter the next day

Adrian Andrews

they had a lot of chances to betray and would have had to get really lucky with reads to be this trusted (edited)

Yeah I definitely would not have lived this long if they were announcing stuff to pack.

we no longer have confirmed town tomorrow

13:27

nor would we have a guaranteed lynch target (edited)

Fair...

well we have sharl and you

13:28

but the point is to not make either of you reporter

13:28

what is a possibility is that both sabos are dead

13:28

and i can go for reporter

Raymond Shields (they/them)

We could time our abilities? I check sharl against kruthers, if they're different, sharl waters them. Scum get reporter info but we can elect a confirmed town for reporter the next day

kruthers could also be pt so we'd waste the water too

Well we've killed 4 scum, right?

uhhh

Adrian Andrews

kruthers could also be pt so we'd waste the water too

Oh yeah that'd kill sharl too

13:29

I forgot pack tanner isn't lycan

it wouldn't

13:29

sharl only dies by watering town

Ohhhhh

13:29

Wwr reading comprehension

Adrian Andrews

right now i trust mat A LOT more than huck for hooker

you mean for herald

1

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Well we've killed 4 scum, right?

suso ethan/val alpha luffy/invicitank/sniper luffy/invicitank/sniper

13:30

we have 5 confirmed scum kills

13:30

not even counting riding hood

13:30

after luffy hangs

Adrian Andrews

and i can go for reporter

go for this

no

13:31

def not today

13:31

we need reporter info to take that big of a gamble

cool

13:31

hmmm

13:32

what's the current game balance?

Alive Players | Total: 13 wasted

wasted

- swurtle (@Larry Butz)

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Adrian Andrews)

- sharleclaire (@Shi-Long Lang) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Ema Skye)

- captainluffy (@Clay Terran)

- kruthers (@Wocky Kitaki)

- lucas_lin_703 (@Lamiroir)

️ - huckhuck55 (@Wendy Oldbag)

- sinisfuel (@Damon Gant)

‍

- matstress (@Matt Engarde)

- mrrfiish (@Phineas Filch)

- avaline. (@Olga Orly) ❤️‍

- sarvak_deshnaur (@Raymond Shields (they/them)) (edited)

worst case (first huntress kill being citizen) 4 wolves 8 town

13:33

with town having mayor

13:33

and we know lucas is confirmed wolf

Ok so let's say we sacrifice priest after watering confirmed scum

13:34

We have 3 wolves, 8 town

13:34

Priest dies

13:34

3 wolves 7 town

13:34

Assuming reporter info gives us a good lynch target

13:35

2 wolves 7 town

13:35

They kill

13:35

2 wolves 6 town

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Ok so let's say we sacrifice priest after watering confirmed scum

priest is not guaranteed to kill

Then assuming we don't get a guaranteed lynch for 2 nights

13:35

2 wolves, 4 town

13:35

We get a lynch

13:35

1 wolf, 3 town and then we win killing lucas

Adrian Andrews

priest is not guaranteed to kill

Do we not have a confirmed scum to kill right now)

13:36

?

we can have one but they can be pack tanner

Hmmmm

but tonight

13:36

we can get a guaranteed lynch target

13:36

with your ability

13:36

by checking a 50-50 with sharl

13:37

we dont need to check kruthers

13:37

cause reporter info on sharl instantly confirms them (edited)

So are we sacrificing priest?

lets run the numbers again

Adrian Andrews

we can have one but they can be pack tanner

If it doesn't kill, we know who tanners are to make FT more reliable

yeah ft becomes stronger with time, for all we know we already got rid of one

13:39

thats why im not worried about losing priest early

13:39

we have 2 tis possibly and 2 journalists

8 town 4 wolves priest waters pt and dies 7 town 4 wolves hang guaranteed wolf (herald 50-50 / kruthers), elect idk me for reporter we dont really need it again 7 town 3 wolves check for another guaranteed wolf with oracle (citizen 50-50 if kruthers is FT) wolves somehow kill someone other than me 6 town 3 wolves hang citizen 50-50 result 6 town 2 wolves if one of the tis is still alive check journalists town dies 5 town 2 wolves

13:48

with a cub left and last wolf hidden in the journalist claims

13:48

but if kruthers ends up being scum the citizens are no longer a 50-50

13:49

and we gain both kruthers and the herald 50-50 as confirmed lynches

13:49

no matter what happens we need to make sure tis stay alive long enough for us to be able to solve the journalist 1/3

13:49

if i stay alive with mayor on me we can also afford a mislynch

13:50

and we can make the journalist mislynch send an overly complicated password to the other journalist claim

13:50

cause in that situation everyone but the journalists would be confirmed

13:50

and would know the password

13:51

so even with one mislynch we're guaranteed to find the last journo as long as i stay alive

13:52

@Raymond Shields (they/them) @Shi-Long Lang so i think we're pretty safe to give sharl reporter?

13:54

this could maybe backfire if both kruthers is scum and they kill sarvak instead of sharl though but then we can get guardian

Adrian Andrews

@Raymond Shields (they/them) @Shi-Long Lang so i think we're pretty safe to give sharl reporter?

That logic checks out for me and I'm down for safety

13:55

If kruthers is safe we have 2 powerful tis and if they're not we're glad we gave sharl reporter

yeah

13:56

if they're not we also have 2 confirmed hangs

13:56

and its always possible they're not PT and sharl gets a third kill tonight

13:57

which gives us even more time to find the fake journalist

13:57

the dead townie has to be citizen or ft imo

13:57

and with how its playing out im fairly sure its citizen

13:58

let's see what sharl says i could have made a mistake somewhere

13:58

wolves are down really bad here so i doubt www if alive would even attack

13:58

and its still possible the dead "townie" was pack and both citizens are alive

btw i asked in my secret channel if you water a www disguised as pt the www still dies

luffy is right that by getting reporter we confirm them

15:22

but there's also the chance we'll never take another 50-50 since we have TIs

15:25

do we want to try hanging a journalist actually

15:25

no cause that potentially leaves clairvoyant fox alive right? (edited)

@Shi-Long Lang im gonna announce you as reporter sometime soon, i think it looks good for us if i do

Adrian Andrews

do we want to try hanging a journalist actually

I think it's worth it. Hanging Luffy and assuming he's town where we could confirm him in literally a day fucks us over potentially

Also

15:37

Not considered

15:37

Hanging Luffy confirms mat

15:37

Mat claimed jay was last assistant

15:39

It's such a high value lynch it's insane

Tk as reporter?

Wocky Kitaki

Tk as reporter?

tldr yes

16:08

100% confirmed reporter info and 2 TIs are at least as valuable as priest here

16:09

im just waiting for your / sharl's perspective before i announce

Adrian Andrews

@Shi-Long Lang im gonna announce you as reporter sometime soon, i think it looks good for us if i do

ok

16:33

There is one issue of time zones though

16:34

night starts at 12am for me

16:34

and ends around 11

16:34

and I have classes from 8 to 12

16:34

uhh

16:34

does it work if we just let you know who to water

16:35

you give us reporter list before sleep and water someone when you wake up or something

16:35

chances are slim you survive tomorrow

or is phase change already too late at 12am @Shi-Long Lang

probably too late at 12am ngl cuz of early class tomorrow looking to sleep by 10

okay yeah that's fair

16:46

im def awake before phase change idk about kruthers and sarvak though

16:46

we'd have to do everything in the morning

@Raymond Shields (they/them) @Wocky Kitaki are you here before vrijdag 11 oktober 2024 11:00:00, if not i think we have to give kruthers the rep

(edited)

17:00

timezone diff

Adrian Andrews

@Raymond Shields (they/them) @Wocky Kitaki are you here before vrijdag 11 oktober 2024 11:00:00, if not i think we have to give kruthers the rep

(edited)

Like will I be up before 12 GMT?

up and available for like 15 minutes so we can decidwe

Like 12 at night? That's when phase change is, right?

17:02

Yeah I'll be up

nono

17:02

not this phange change

17:02

the next one

17:02

9utc+0 (edited)

Yeah I'll be free

17:04

Classes end at 11

vrijdag 11 oktober 2024 11:00:00

17:04

30 minutes before this

Class starts literally at that time

17:05

I set off 15 minutes before then

17:05

So yeah 30 minutes before that I should be free

feels like im scheduling tournament matches again lmao

17:07

actually i think no matter what the dead list looks like you check heralds and kurthers checks a journalist

17:08

nah ill see

@Adrian Andrews Am I checking 2 of the journo claims against eachother?

Raymond Shields (they/them)

@Adrian Andrews Am I checking 2 of the journo claims against eachother?

lets wait until we have reporter info in the morning

Adrian Andrews

lets wait until we have reporter info in the morning

I meant for this nights check

yeah you do the night check before phase change

20:16

cause thats when sharl wakes up

Wait what?

20:16

We don't get reporter info until morning. I have a check that wears off in the morning

20:17

Are you saying to do my check right before it changes to morning?

yes

Why?

we have reporter info

Shi-Long Lang

probably too late at 12am ngl cuz of early class tomorrow looking to sleep by 10

btw i remembering seeing people say that you're in switerland, in which case phase change is at 10pm xD

Adrian Andrews

btw i remembering seeing people say that you're in switerland, in which case phase change is at 10pm xD

oh my bad. (edited)

20:36

yeah you're right

20:36

10. But sometimes it takes till 11 lol

btw go to sleep when you want lol we're not in a hurry for the info i wasnt implying that you should wait for it

I was randomly awake till 1 am yesterday (today actually) finding out that in the NFL, kickers and punters use different balls

20:37

not the same ones that are used in usual plays

nfl is american football right?

yes

i have a gut feeling ill be up at 4am writing an assignment

Adrian Andrews

i have a gut feeling ill be up at 4am writing an assignment

ooo

20:39

what topic?

that's the fun part

i dont know

wha

20:40

what course

i said assignment cause it was simpler but im basically trying to find a theme for my thesis

oooooo

20:40

bachelors or masters?

bachelors

what's your major?

theme is disentangled represetations (machine learning stuff)

and when's the deadline?

deadline idk it's more or less up to my pace

20:41

i just started the semester and got into contact with an ML prof

Adrian Andrews

theme is disentangled represetations (machine learning stuff)

ah thanks for clarifying that it's ML

now we need to find a specific topic in disentanglement

My first thought was algebra

20:41

cuz I'm a math major, and a bunch of my friends work in representation theory lol

so rather than assignment i need to research topics for my appointment with him tomorrow

and algebraic geometry

Adrian Andrews

so rather than assignment i need to research topics for my appointment with him tomorrow

aaahhh

might be adjacent

Shi-Long Lang

what's your major?

software engineering

20:42

but im trying to switch to data science for masters so im doing my thesis in ML

Adrian Andrews

software engineering

basically coding part of CS?

yeah more or less

20:43

more high level programming

20:43

than other CS majors

20:44

did you start at ETH

20:44

(i dont know other unis in switzerland)

there's UZH, ZHAW, EPFL, University of Bern

20:44

Basel

20:45

so a bunch of good unis here

hows life in switzerland

expensive lol

20:46

but nice

i predict hell say expensive

good public transport

damn

20:46

didnt type that out fast enough

Adrian Andrews

i predict hell say expensive

you were right lul

I was in geneva for a few days

20:47

it was so expensive

too much pubic smoking

20:47

my

be

realsad

i grew up in a small romanian city so for me the people who went to switzerland to study were the rich and really intelligent ones

Shi-Long Lang

too much pubic smoking

weed?

no.

oh

20:48

damn

cigs

wouldn't have expected it

20:48

really not a problem in austria

I believe weed is illegal here though when does that ever stop anybody

Weed is legal in germany

oh you know there's shops on the german side of the border that sell it lmao

20:49

easiest investment ever

I think it is legal here in a small amount if prescribed by a doctor or something like that

its legal since april

is it legal in austria?

i dont think so

I hate both cigs and weed cigs more cuz they also fuck my lungs other than the terrible smell

maybe only as a med

wouldn't have expected it

weed is just terrible smell

Shi-Long Lang

I hate both cigs and weed cigs more cuz they also fuck my lungs other than the terrible smell

same

there's a cannabis candy (i think) store everywhere here

that i know

20:50

Like 10 mins away i have like 3

idk i dont know much about drugs other than what my friends tell me

on the mahü (edited)

but my perception was that weed is one of the tamer ones

20:50

yeah mahü is full

i think it is a tamer one

Adrian Andrews

but my perception was that weed is one of the tamer ones

effect wise yes it is used for certain medical purposes

been to parties where people did it and it smelt horrible

20:51

hate it

a pain reliever

cigs too but half my group smokes so i just gotta tank that one

20:51

at least they're civil enough to let me sit on the side where smoke doesnt flow

I dislike smoking but like I cant go up to people and spray them with water

i mean its their choice

ye

if they smoke on the street though

20:52

im not tough enough to get into a fight but i will give them nasty sideyes

20:52

i hate being stuck behind a slow walker that's smoking

My father was a smoker so I am very biased against smoking

20:52

he stopped like 10+ years ago

based

20:53

my mom wants to but can't

its hard

she's also really stressed all the time even with smoking so when she tried my dad just bought her more cigs to help her calm down

eyy

20:55

1:0 Austria

who they playing

Kazakhstan

20:55

a must win

world cup qualifiers?

Nations league

oh

20:55

heard romania was doing well

which is important for wcq

austrians are crazy for football

Romania plays on the 12th (edited)

i only watch as a social thing

understandable

20:57

like world cup and euros

during euros it was impossible to find a single bar that wasnt booked out

until austria got turked

lmao

3rd turk invasion of vienna (edited)

wait wasnt the match shown in rathausplatz

was in england

20:59

i hated on england so much my grandfather wanted to hate on austria. but then he realized that I hate on austria a lot too so he didnt even say anything

universal hater

Why we hating on england now???

never needed a reason to hate on anyone

But England is amazing

21:06

We had the biggest empire and look at our size!

(intentionally did not vote btw)

does anyone read votes in wwr

I do lol

Adrian Andrews

does anyone read votes in wwr

not useful ngl, until late game when it's very important

can only see it being useful when wolves and town are tied in votes

yes

Wait has phase transition happened yet?

i think they're working on it

the polls have been closed

22:10

am waiting for reporter

Sweet

and then I'll yeet to bed

Hopefully you can stay up till then

Wocky Kitaki

We had the biggest empire and look at our size!

That's not a point for us

22:11

That's a very very big point against us

22:11

We could've done nothing else and the British empire would've been justification enough to hate us forever

nah you respected the locals' right to self-determination, which is based (edited)

i have reporter role

22:11

but can't see the channel yet lol

Sweeeet

22:11

Oh

OH thats a bug lol

Shi-Long Lang

but can't see the channel yet lol

if you dont have it after stroy time ping hosts

22:12

bot done fucked up (edited)

Furio Tigre was a Huntress skrundead was a Saboteur Wolf Valant Gramarye was a Riding Hood ay Faraday was a Huntress Athena Cykes was a Wolf Mike Meekins was a Pack Tanner Will Powers was a Assistant Missile the Dog was a Pack Tanner Simon Blackquill was a Wolf Shoe the Cat was a Assistant Clay Terran was a Clairvoyant Fox

1

i think we just win?

@Wocky Kitaki you are now 100% confirmed XD

22:19

Imma water huck @Participant

And we don't gotta work about tanner fucking FT up

both pack tanners and cf are dead, sharl will kill anyone he waters

ok ye attack all assistant claims, citizens are now confirmed too

yeah cits are confirmed

22:19

just the 3 journos left

Ok so who am I checking?

which we can almost certainly confirm tonight

2 journos against eachother?

Raymond Shields (they/them)

And we don't gotta work about tanner fucking FT up

yup

Raymond Shields (they/them)

2 journos against eachother?

yep

sarvak checks 2 journos first

then if they dont align ill check one

@Wocky Kitaki can you check huck?

nonono

22:20

huck is confirmed scum

Ill wait for journal checks

I don't wanna hit wolf cub

22:20

ah ok

Swurtle Vs sin?

meh. Does not matter

Shi-Long Lang

I don't wanna hit wolf cub

That's lucas

fuck it

22:20

Imma yeet huck

22:20

goodnight guys

22:20

ggs

nice

22:20

ggs

Shi-Long Lang

I don't wanna hit wolf cub

thats lucus i checked them N1

very good

22:20

bye all of ya

@Raymond Shields (they/them) check sin and fish

we will save them for last

and bye bye huck

Oh shit

jay thought swurtle was scum

22:21

i wanna see if he was right

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Oh shit

also update your pinned list

I forgor

Adrian Andrews

@Raymond Shields (they/them) check sin and fish

Aight

huck? more like his life sucks after he gets splashed by my water

i knew huck was full of shit

22:22

he's been spamming me in cc all day

22:22

trying to make austria seem sus

one last thing before I go we have only wolf cub, www and one sab wolf remaining right?

yes

and one of them die

22:23

tonight

dont boast in all chat yet maybe they don't know how bad the situation is

Shi-Long Lang

and one of them die

Wait have your watered already?

huck dies

Wocky Kitaki

Wait have your watered already?

watering huck

oh wait you can kill the WWW so we are good

22:24

ok

any lycan dies (edited)

Wocky Kitaki

Wait have your watered already?

we kept this from you but huck and mat had opposing herald claims on last assistant

22:24

so they made it really easy

when I water

for us to confirm

Fish and sin are same

22:25

So both town

22:25

Swurtle is scum

jay is actually

22:25

insane

LOL

how did he predict every single scum remaining

experience ig

22:25

and the fact that wolves did not counterclaim early

22:25

making life hard for themselves

Adrian Andrews

we kept this from you but huck and mat had opposing herald claims on last assistant

i know they did i checked mat, who was evidently tanned

i mean their claims weren't horrible

Goodnight for real this time XD

mat came up as scum tonight?

22:26

goodnight sharl

Adrian Andrews

mat came up as scum tonight?

no last night

yeah wasnt tanned mat is real herald (edited)

oh

22:26

ye sorry i miss read that

we're watering huck because he said jay wasn't the last assistant when he died

oh lol

risky gamble to keep luffy alive

who should i check anyway

22:27

for the lols

we have everyone's role

22:27

wanna check uhh

22:27

lucas again

22:27

to make sure he isnt fake cub

22:27

or something

we dont know bettween WWW and last sab

your info wouldnt help us either

22:28

cause www can be strong disguised as sab

i know i want to confirm it just so we have the whole role list (edited)

actually no you're right

22:28

so lucas cub

22:28

huck ?

22:28

swurtle ?

22:28

check swurtle ig

Ill check swurtle

huck could be tanned

I recon if anyone Swurtle is the WWW

fair

22:29

if i sleep with WWW tonight im guaranteed to survive too

Adrian Andrews

huck could be tanned

dont think the effect lasts once they die

Pack Tanner [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each day, the Pack Tanner may disguise one player as a role of the Pack Tanner’s choosing.

Details

Each day, the Pack Tanner can weakly disguise one player; the night after, to roles affected by weak disguises, their role will appear to be what the Pack Tanner has disguised the player as. The Pack Tanner may disguise themself, but they may not disguise the same player twice in a row. Disguising a player is an immediate effect. If the Pack Tanner dies, the assigned player will keep their disguise for the night. The player loses their disguise at the end of the night. The Pack Tanner is not a lycan, but is part of the wolfpack.

they do

and they have been dead since Night 3 and its a day action so no tanned today

Town (13) Citizen x2

@Ema Skye (confirmed)
@Olga Orly (confirmed)

Assistant x2

@Shoe the Cat (confirmed)
@Will Powers (confirmed)

Journalist x2

@Damon Gant (confirmed through oracle)
@Larry Butz (claimed, confirmed scum through oracle)
@Phineas Filch (confirmed through oracle)

Priest

@Shi-Long Lang (claimed, confirmed)

Huntress x 2

@Furio Tigre (confirmed)
@Kay Faraday (confirmed)

Fortune Teller

@Wocky Kitaki (confirmed)

Herald

@Matt Engarde (confirmed)
@Wendy Oldbag (claimed, confirmed scum)

Oracle

Me (confirmed)

Hooker

@Adrian Andrews (confirmed) Wolves (8)

Wolf x 2

@Simon Blackquill (confirmed through reporter)
@Athena Cykes (confirmed through reporter)

Wolf Cub

@Lamiroir (checked by confirmed FT)

Pack Tanner x 2

@Missile the Dog (confirmed through reporter)
@Mike Meekins (confirmed through reporter)

Saboteur Wolf x2

@Larry Butz (confirmed through FT)
random fucker that left (confirmed through reporter)

Clairvoyant Fox

@Clay Terran (confirmed through reporter)

Solo (1) White Werewolf UA (1) Riding Hood

@Valant Gramarye (confirmed) Scum:
- @Larry Butz
@Wendy Oldbag
@Lamiroir

(edited)

1

22:30

Updated list

if swurtle is www

22:30

wanna add her to the channel and convince her to kill lucas

22:30

xD

no they would see we have the upper hand

upper hand be damned i dont think there's a single way we could lose here

tbf they already know so

Adrian Andrews

upper hand be damned i dont think there's a single way we could lose here

no no no

There absolutely is and I'm too stupid to see it

22:31

Regardless

22:31

No

22:31

I wanna secure the win lol

fair

Last time someone said that and there was more then 1 wolf left they lost

did you check swurtle btw

Also tomorrow, as long as tonight goes to plan will probbly be FF

Adrian Andrews

did you check swurtle btw

yes i have not got a role back

ah okay fair

Wocky Kitaki

Also tomorrow, as long as tonight goes to plan will probbly be FF

if sharl dies we end it in 4 phases, if they do not we end it next night

22:34

Came back as Sabo

22:35

so could be WWW or could be actual sabo

yeah

22:35

that's the result where we dont actually know

22:35

rough

ye

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 10-10-2024 22:36

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 10-10-2024 22:36

2 sabos alive during votes today

22:36

that could have easily gone wrong

22:37

imo priest sacrifice was the correct play cause sharl was low-key

Wait only 2?

22:37

I didn't see any dead

sniper

Sniper was tannee

wait

ye one died 2nd

it was the random huntress kill

22:37

n1

ye lol

22:38

that random huntress kill has so much risk but was perfect (edited)

Oh the bugger that left

yep

you can add huck to saboteur wolf list

22:39

actually you cant

22:39

www wonky

Yeaaaah

swurtle just had to come up as sabo

Well once priest goes through we'll know

yea

22:39

i mean we wont

22:40

cause they're probably also dead

Oh yeah lmao

Ye

22:40

well we will see

ill sleep with sin or something

No use for me now

22:40

Since we already know who's scum

Nah sleep with scum (edited)

Funny how we went from me being most valuable to me being literally useless now

incase the pack try to kill one of us randomly

what if www randomly kills

Why?

22:41

Pack has 3 people left

yeah fair

www would literally be throwing if they killed pack right now

my dumbass was about to go sleep with huck

I mean they could but it will just sabotage them even more

Adrian Andrews

my dumbass was about to go sleep with huck

ahh yes kill the preist for pack

doesnt kill the priest but i die cause huck gets attacked

Throwing is against the rules. Literally no one could say that killing pack in this position isn't throwing

22:42

I struggle to find the reasoning

yeah no its just paranoia

22:42

im safe on pack

No WWW pack kill makes sense, if they kill cub to try and get double kill tomorrow we can just lynch the last one (edited)

town has overwhelming majority

22:43

and they know RH died

ye

Yeah exactly

www can't win by killing wolves here

They need at least a mislynch before they double kill

tbf we have significantly more informatio nthan wolves

Literally their only chance

22:44

Even if literally everyone here died right now, town would still have majority

yep

(we have mayor too)

Ye

i could commit hooker suicide and i think we'd still have majority

its painful to wait all night just to see if pack kill sharl

Yeah I feel like this should be a fast forward

22:45

Though tomorrow it probably has to be

22:45

Game is solved

Ye tomorrow will

22:45

but tonight if they kill sharl it takes 2 days to lynch them, if they dont we kill them by the end of that night

Huck gets watered, we lynch non-cub, one of us dies and we kill cub to end it off

22:46

This was probably the cleanest town win I've been a part of

22:46

Bravo gentlepeople

I feel like they could FF acutaly tonight, lets just get a lynch order

Wocky Kitaki

I feel like they could FF acutaly tonight, lets just get a lynch order

swurtle -> lucas

Yeah

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Bravo gentlepeople

well done to you all, you some how were all always active when i could not get to my phone

Literally impossible for wolves to win here

Everytime there was lots of talking happening i would be either driving, or working on a roof and climbing

im only working on my thesis rn so im pretty much always active

22:48

tt is really fun to play too

Even if they kill priest, we somehow mislynched, www killed cub for a double kill, we mislynched again, we would still win

i have lots of free time just not when people are active apparently thisgame

Adrian Andrews

tt is really fun to play too

It's stressful though lol

22:48

Feel bad for non TT

i enjoy it

It's boring as sin waiting for everyone else to solve the game

but yeah WWR as opposed to like ToS is pretty boring if you're a random town

Tos?

talked to ts about citizen balancing during the last event and it's sad but the role is pretty much needed here (edited)

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Tos?

town of salem

22:50

almost same game but matches are 20 minutes long

Is that a different discord server?

and every role does something

22:50

no it's an actual game

22:50

on steam now, used to be on browser too

can we get mat in here

00:40

actually do it after huck dies

00:41

i told her the info she gave was really helpful and she asked to join tt chat (edited)

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Tos?

Terms of service

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Town (13) Citizen x2

@Ema Skye (confirmed)
@Olga Orly (confirmed)

Assistant x2

@Shoe the Cat (confirmed)
@Will Powers (confirmed)

Journalist x2

@Damon Gant (confirmed through oracle)
@Larry Butz (claimed, confirmed scum through oracle)
@Phineas Filch (confirmed through oracle)

Priest

@Shi-Long Lang (claimed, confirmed)

Huntress x 2

@Furio Tigre (confirmed)
@Kay Faraday (confirmed)

Fortune Teller

@Wocky Kitaki (confirmed)

Herald

@Matt Engarde (confirmed)
@Wendy Oldbag (claimed, confirmed scum)

Oracle

Me (confirmed)

Hooker

@Adrian Andrews (confirmed) Wolves (8)

Wolf x 2

@Simon Blackquill (confirmed through reporter)
@Athena Cykes (confirmed through reporter)

Wolf Cub

@Lamiroir (checked by confirmed FT)

Pack Tanner x 2

@Missile the Dog (confirmed through reporter)
@Mike Meekins (confirmed through reporter)

Saboteur Wolf x2

@Larry Butz (confirmed through FT)
random fucker that left (confirmed through reporter)

Clairvoyant Fox

@Clay Terran (confirmed through reporter)

Solo (1) White Werewolf UA (1) Riding Hood

@Valant Gramarye (confirmed) Scum:
- @Larry Butz
@Wendy Oldbag
@Lamiroir

(edited)

great job putting this together

Adrian Andrews

my dumbass was about to go sleep with huck

bruh

We're all alive

Fuck they let you live sharl?

Well kills haven't been announced

11:06

Possible bots acted before hosts

Right who we we lynch and who do we water?

They killed austria (edited)

Raymond Shields (they/them)

Possible bots acted before hosts

Hosts make the polls

Sharl is alive

how am I alive

Wocky Kitaki

Hosts make the polls

I did them

11:06

Cause they arent alive

If Huck is dead, we lynch swurtle then water Lucas, right?

I think huck was trying to bait me into sleeping with Austria yesterday

11:06

Or something

Ema Skye was a Citizen Wendy Oldbag was a White Werewolf Lamiroir was a Wolf Cub

Lynch swurtal and then night kill lucs?

what

11:07

even

11:07

is

How the hell did Lucas die?

happening

Fast forward?

Adrian Andrews

How the hell did Lucas die?

www?

Adrian Andrews

How the hell did Lucas die?

WWW?

Oh shit

11:07

Well

Damn www actually attacked

We literally win still

So just swurtal to kill?

Yeah just swurtle

they probably planned that

Surly we can FF then ye

cuz we weren't killing cub

11:07

they killed cub in order to get an extra kil

Still, that was suicide

11:08

They still lose

Ye same they won't get the rewards and means they don't given get to kill 1 more of us

To be fair for them, they had no idea how much town knew

True

yeah

I slept with the only scum that didn't die

Well we just lynch swurtle today and there's nothing they can do

Just do a ping to kill swurtal nominate a guardian the we can call for a FF

Adrian Andrews

I slept with the only scum that didn't die

lol

Might as well release all the info so the citizens and journalists know they are in the clear

LETSSSGGGOOO

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