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Dead & Spectators

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This channel is for dead participants and spectators. A complete role list can be found at the top of this channel.

12:05

Players | Total: 22

12:05

yes

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Juror

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- @Radium Enjoyer (Juror) yes

yes

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Assistant

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- @Penniless Pickpocketer (Assistant) yes

yes

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Citizen

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wasted

- @Shrivelled Vegetable (Citizen) yes

yes

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Ranger

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- @Moonshine Maker (Ranger) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Apple Seller (Citizen) yes

yes

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SaboteurWolf

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‍

- @Mat Weaver (Saboteur Wolf) yes

yes

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Juror

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- @Lounging Longshoreman (Juror) yes

yes

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Juror

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- @Sleepy Security Officer (Juror) yes

yes

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Angel

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- @Mato (Angel) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Gold Hoarder (Citizen) yes

yes

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Priest

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️ - @Wandering Worker (Priest) yes

yes

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PlagueCarrier

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bobgun

- @Bootleg Coal Miner (Plague Carrier) yes

yes

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Assistant

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- @Befuddled Banker (Assistant) yes

yes

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Wolf

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- @Gruff Gangster (Wolf) yes

yes

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Wolf

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- @Decently Dapper Dairyman (Wolf) yes

yes

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Recluse

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- @Aspic Enthusiast (Recluse) yes

yes

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PlagueBearer

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- @Wrathful Grape (Plague Bearer) yes

yes

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Huntress

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- @Piffling Fisher (Huntress) (edited)

12:05

yes

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SneakingWolf

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bro_fist_kiss

- @Cranberry Bog Worker (Sneaking Wolf) yes

yes

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Tanner

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- @Startled Stockbroker (Tanner) yes

yes

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Hooker

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- @Haggling Hawker (Hooker) yes

yes

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TrackingWolf

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- @Oblivious Oil Tycoon (Tracking Wolf) (edited)

lol mat wolf again

@Cranberry Bog Worker it appears you LIED to me (edited)

12:05

you FOOL

lol

YOU FELL FOR MY TRAP

12:05

MUAHAHAHHAHAA

12:05

i feel so cool right now

12:05

im sorry bestie now i feel bad

12:05

Got sniped by a fish

12:05

Welcome

thank you my friend

12:06

this is my first time dying N1

12:07

and i brought a wolf down with me

12:07

im so happy about this

Seems like a pretty good trade

12:07

this is a fucking priest suicide isn't it

That would be so sad

lol, lmao

Anyway, about that factorio dlc

IM SO HYPED

12:09

it looks so good

Less than a month now, right?

12:09

The new machines look so good

its the 21st of october

12:09

so

Almost

i mainly want the SPACE SHIT

12:10

anyways im playing a game if i dont respond im not ghosting you

1

Cant wait to jettison junk into orbit

the planets look sick

Have you seen trupens video?

ye

Very cool stuff he said

the last planet is likely water based (edited)

12:11

its called aquarion

ice planet im assuming

Seablock but vanilla

ice/water

Ice could be cool

on one hand fish executed that one very well (eliminated huntress claimspace and took out a good wolf). on the other hand wolves now need to work reaalllly hard to prevent reporter so that it's not found that sneaking wolf is dead

Wonder what technology they will add there

wolves need to bank on cit mislynches

Werewolf Street Journal

wolves need to bank on cit mislynches

We will see if they can pull it off

this is a very good start for town

Haven’t really read thro hh the game but it’s cool that apparently there’s some new strats, or at least not wwr (edited)

@Event Host so is the event only for living players

Piffling Fisher

@Event Host so is the event only for living players

event hosts will be on in a few hours to answer but i would imagine you can participate while dead?

12:35

they let subs participate

12:35

they'll probably make u a ghost

ahh i see

Piffling Fisher

@Event Host so is the event only for living players

Your suffering doesn't end in death. Capitalism is for everyone.

YAY

13:02

i go sleep now gn gn gn

Nighty

Mood lol

Claim exchange!

good

14:07

get the claim exchanges back

14:07

theyre fun

Damn how long has it been

14:07

4-5 seasons

nah

14:08

shorter probably

Also this game's funny cause all the GMs have uber long nicknames

14:08

except martin

martin

Oh marten*

MARTIN

anglofied marten

look his username is feritin

14:14

so i got confused

18:01

realsad

18:02

bobgun

a range of emotions in 3 emojis

18:02

get his ass

WWR's Freelance Lobbyist

so i got confused

Vaardigheidsprobleem

Sticker

WWR HR Generalist (Dead)

Claim exchange!

Gotta love it when you agree to a claim exchange and the other party is ‘citizen’ potato

potato

how about Coining a Catchphrase, a new one for a claim exchange without citizen claims, maybe something like Citizen-less Claim-exchange

18:27

also known as CC

Sounds good

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1285904445955248292/1286366343066681436 lol

Sadly it’s for mayor

18:42

Would’ve been top tier entertainment if they lynched him in that way

Why did coal claim plague to juror

im assuming he thinks if he troll claims it enough they wont think he's actually plague

20:08

which could work, assuming jury doesn't proceed to check him

oh huck...unless she changes target luna is not a good kill for you

i mean

20:23

would it matter?

20:23

both of their abilities are on death so like

Piffling Fisher

would it matter?

luna is currently targetting huck

20:24

so if she dies, huck is outed as angel

20:24

as is entirely at the mercy of whichever team feels like giving him a pity win

oh yeah for sure for some reason i thought you said "he" and assumed huck was on luna

The Bank

Why did coal claim plague to juror

Why did coal claim to juror QwQ

Werewolves Broadcasting Company

Why did coal claim to juror QwQ

its an S tier play we just dont understand my friend

Yes

20:47

Indeed

how long until jay clocks huck as angel

20:52

when you're being sussed as scum angel is a fine line between looking sus or looking like an angel

20:52

will huck cross that line i wonder

btw does anyone want any beneficial laws to be made or changed?

WWR's Freelance Lobbyist

btw does anyone want any beneficial laws to be made or changed?

wut

I'm a lobbyist

can you make us more lobbies

20:54

i want to play co-op

I lobby government to make laws in a companies favour

Werewolf Street Journal

can you make us more lobbies

sure, lemme just take some politicians to dinner and drink alcohol with them until they're drunk enough to take suggestion

ohhhh please tie it with huck so he can snipe himself'

21:01

that would be so fucking funny

21:01

HILARIOUS even

21:01

i beg

lmao

Self snipes as angel are funny

remember that time someone (i dont remember who) convinced 1 other person to vote them on the lynch and then sniped themselves

angel on wolf

21:57

huge

@Cranberry Bog Worker can i just say that its really funny when prompted with ride or die, we chose die

22:21

the channel named ride or die was made and we both died N1

we rode and then we died as true besties

its true

22:23

i apologize for lying to you my friend but it was my plan from the start

22:23

i was going to keep it going for days if needed

22:25

i actually had a slight town lean on you but i stuck to the plan because my read was like 55/45 and i figured it was much more likely that if i died itd be at your hand and not just chance

if the game progressed id say people would call it pocketing lol

pocketing.... what do you mean exactly?

i talk far too much lmao pocketing is just a term for like buddying someone in mafia

fair fair

22:28

even if i thought you were town i was gonna keep telling you i was priest till i was sure so lol

kudos to you for it :)) it paid off

thank you my friend

22:29

oh also i DID actually $roll you twice by the way

22:29

its just the first was who to target and the second was who to CC and possibly change target to later

22:29

which is really funny

its like a 1/400 chance

22:34

wowee

22:34

someone do the math

22:35

thats even worse than the odds i rolled vigilante and it again after a reset of the game lmao (those were 1% odds)

you botc right

22:35

i got alsaahir 2 games back to back with one other in the middle, and guessed all evils correctly in both games

22:35

it was peak

22:36

oh yeah idk if you know but alsaahir is "every day you may guess the demons and minions. if correct, good wins."

22:36

so its PEAK

22:36

except for the fact i was poisoned in the 2nd game and we didnt win off it but still

22:37

some of the evils didnt know i was poisoned and i discombobulated them as i guessed the entire evil team lmao

oh lol thats rip

yeah it was tragic

22:38

it was a 5 person evil team WITH a demon pass too

22:38

and i got all 5 correct, 2 demons and 3 minions

damn thats a big game

yeah it was a 15 person game with a lord of typhon which makes it so "all evils are in a line. +1 minions. you are in the middle" which is a demon

one of my peak botc games would probably be as a baron (brings in two outsiders) and immediately upon game start me and my demon claimed recluse and saint in. a five person game

lmao?

22:40

thats... a weird play tbh

22:40

its peak though id totally do it

its rare

its something id do

22:40

well its funny cause there will be 2/3 evils in the 3 outsider claims

Piffling Fisher

yeah it was a 15 person game with a lord of typhon which makes it so "all evils are in a line. +1 minions. you are in the middle" which is a demon

thats so interesting lol

yeah, made it easier for my alsaahir guess

22:41

still hard to guess considering i have to assume its a lord of typhon when there are 4 demons on the script, since i need to guess 1 extra evil if its typhon

22:41

but at least if i assume lord of typhon i know i put it in a line

22:41

and i got the pass right so im still proud about getting it there

as you should be

thank you my friend

22:42

alsaahir is great

22:42

i dont remember the 1st game as well but i remember still being very happy, and we actually won that one from my guess

god it looks like huck will actually win this

23:24

huck went from almost getting outed to jury if not for a lucky tan, to almost getting mayored and killed, to about to snipe and win

hilarious

i would say i feel bad for wolves and i do but. town has only won once this season

23:24

ultimately i am rooting for plague tho

wolves are being hit hard

23:25

they may run into every single on death role at this point

23:25

huntress then angel then ranger

Mhm

they really have little choice but to kill ranger but killing ranger also eliminates the ranger claimspace

23:25

500 cit and assistant claims <3333

the citizen tide

23:26

it comes

what social deduction is meant to be

did you guys see my bait

Yes

they call me a fisherman because i have great bait

impressive

if wolves had tracked you instead of coal they would have thought you were priest (bc huntress never even crossed their minds) and killed you anyway

ye

23:27

i didnt ever fact check but i was sure huntress and priest both show as high threat

23:27

am i right

TK shows as major threat yes

i knew it!! but huntress is misc i thought

23:29

its just based on the fact it kills iirc?

23:29

im just wrong

23:29

lol

23:30

EITHER WAY i was right in it being high threat

23:30

this is why we stay CONFIDENT in our knowledge and DONT fact check it

the werewolves mantra

Or just adopt wwr reading comprehension and get the role wrong after reading it

my only regret is not saying something vague that people may look back at and realize i baited N1

kek

i was thinking about saying something but i was worried id out myself to wolves

Werewolves Bot B

yes

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Juror

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- @Radium Enjoyer (Juror) yes

yes

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Assistant

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- @Penniless Pickpocketer (Assistant) yes

yes

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Citizen

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wasted

- @Shrivelled Vegetable (Citizen) yes

yes

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Ranger

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- @Moonshine Maker (Ranger) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Apple Seller (Citizen) yes

yes

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SaboteurWolf

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‍

- @Mat Weaver (Saboteur Wolf) yes

yes

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Juror

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- @Lounging Longshoreman (Juror) yes

yes

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Juror

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- @Sleepy Security Officer (Juror) yes

yes

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Angel

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- @Mato (Angel) yes

yes

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Citizen

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- @Gold Hoarder (Citizen) yes

yes

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Priest

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️ - @Wandering Worker (Priest) yes

yes

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PlagueCarrier

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bobgun

- @Bootleg Coal Miner (Plague Carrier) yes

yes

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Assistant

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- @Befuddled Banker (Assistant) yes

yes

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Wolf

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- @Gruff Gangster (Wolf) yes

yes

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Wolf

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- @Decently Dapper Dairyman (Wolf) yes

yes

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Recluse

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- @Aspic Enthusiast (Recluse) yes

yes

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PlagueBearer

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- @Wrathful Grape (Plague Bearer) yes

yes

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Huntress

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- @Piffling Fisher (Huntress) (edited)

Btw It's been a while since this has been automated, there's loads of players who don't know that this used to be done by GMs only if they remembered

oh sweet redemption

00:02

for last time i slept on vote snipe as angel

Werewolf Street Journal

huck went from almost getting outed to jury if not for a lucky tan, to almost getting mayored and killed, to about to snipe and win

wait, did i get tanned last night?!?

yes

00:03

and jury investigated you

00:03

if you had been found as angel you would have been fucked

00:03

but you got veeeeery lucky

LOL

00:04

THATS SO FUNNY

WAYYYYY!!!

00:04

thats so funny!

also the storytime did not ping

what was i tanned as?

the @ broke

yeah it's cause he @-ed the nickname but the discord name

Did yall wanna see my art

00:04

I just finished it

00:04

But sadly perished

00:04

Before I could post

sorry sniper, i had to sniper the sniper

Gruff Gangster

Did yall wanna see my art

i'll open your channel back up gimme a sec

sure

and cuz austria, my only other option, helped me get to where i was.

how did wolves fumble this early

i kind of wish i dumped more information on my way out, but.... wtv.

00:06

dont wanna ruin the game with UA shananigans

00:06

people would yell at me and thats not fun.

Ur chillin

00:07

You win some you lose some

oh! you were wolf!

00:07

rip

Gotta say it wasn't my best play

00:07

But oh welll

i wanted to take out a town, but.... wtv.

I was just tryna interact with town

00:07

To appear townie

austira would have been a more assured town.

00:07

so i guess i didnt want it that bad

The issue with the split was

00:08

If I changed my vote

00:08

Would've just looked sus on me

00:08

I need to focus on studying anyways

00:08

The drawing break was fun tho

OH!!! i was tanned as tracking wolf?!?!?!

00:08

lmfao!!!

Werewolf Street Journal

yeah it's cause he @-ed the nickname but the discord name

Uhhhhhhhh I did?

thats so perfect!!

Werewolves Broadcasting Company

Uhhhhhhhh I did?

in the stortytime

How many places did I screw up o.o

Hustling Huckster

OH!!! i was tanned as tracking wolf?!?!?!

no. assistant

00:09

pretty sure

00:09

but jay was skeptical

Ngl I am so suprised u were actually angel huck even tho I knew u could be wolf

00:10

I figured u were just throwing as town or wtvr

00:10

Or had some weird play in mind

3rd game in a row for a cit claim lmao

00:10

i love cit

00:10

fav role

00:10

so much room for antics

00:10

anyways, thanks pack for tanning me as assitant lmao

00:11

what are the odds lmao

I just get distracted

00:11

By drawing game

also, i had no idea you were so good at drawing

00:13

thats cool

Meh those ones r kinda bad

00:14

Image attachment

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00:14

I did these ones forever ago

00:15

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00:16

@Hustling Huckster

00:16

Idk where the finished vers of the left one went

00:16

But there's the wip of it

damn! the fish one is really cool!

00:25

and the rainbow poop

it wouldve been so funny if i stole your art director job because i am HORRIFIC at art

sniper can still be an art director. he just needs to draw from the dead

well, maybe not all is lost for wolves. A jay and the juror thinks austria is scum helping angel. (but that may be debunked when either ranger or jury checks austria) though, suspicion may come out of that check due to public talk about it. B no lynch tomorrow C other shit (edited)

00:37

jay and the jurors

sick band name.

lynch tomorrow is possible

00:37

if double lynch is chosen by mayor

yeah

oh true

00:37

i forgor about that

00:38

is there anything else thats beating up wuffs?

well the fact i killed one

00:39

idk if you saw that already

00:39

sneaking wolf too

also. uhhh. is there anything against doing an info dump after the poll results come in? is that like... illegal?

Piffling Fisher

sneaking wolf too

oh, yikes. thats bad luck for them. that bluff is out for them. but also, unless they get rep, they wont know about that.

Hustling Huckster

oh, yikes. thats bad luck for them. that bluff is out for them. but also, unless they get rep, they wont know about that.

i baited

so wolves best to just murder the mayor and hope the check isnt productive

claimed priest to them and targeted them, i said we could both hardclaim and buddy all game

man, angel is so fun to play, its everything i want in a role.

00:41

permission to be chaotic.

i do love angel/jester

ye. pure unadulterated fun

they have to kill the ranger tonight too

00:44

which will get rid of more claimspace

00:44

if they dont then town gets reporter and things get rough

00:44

well they dont HAVE to but its the immediate obvious move

00:45

if ranger targets a wolf its ROUGH

00:45

its already really bad for wolves rn

00:46

BUT to town it can look like the opposite

00:47

if me and @Hustling Huckster both hit town its really bad for town right now

00:47

town has no real way to differentiate those two worlds right now

yeah, and i think if wolves just keep hitting town, and town doesnt elect a scum, wolves can pull it back. but im sure theyll elect a wolf eventually.

00:50

i wonder if wolves can frame jurors as a pack?

00:50

i kind of wish i dumped before i got the yeet that jay and derp were scum based on jay protecting derp

00:50

but i dont know if thats allowed

00:51

@Host for future reference. is it allowed to dump info between the moments when poll closes and i get the yeet?

yes

01:06

you can say whatever you want

01:06

ohhhhh if kruthers gets invested it's jover

01:06

plague is dead

01:09

it's so over

01:09

we are not getting the first plague win

damn, i should have dumped then

01:14

good to know for next time. i was 1 button away from calling jay and derp scum due to working together (the enter button)

01:14

not like it would have held water, but would have made things a bit more interesting maybe

01:14

and planted the seed of jury being pack

Would have been interesting yeah

01:30

Rip plague

01:31

Wanted to see them progress at least but coal literally claimed plague

Lmao, #claim_pls That’s how easy it is to get a random claim out of her

01:48

(Side note, I did tell Austria that Luna was going to ask, so there is slightly more to it than just that. But still kind of skipping the thinking of it lol)

Tanner [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each day, the Tanner may disguise up to two players as roles of the Tanner’s choosing. Each night, the Tanner learns how many living players currently disguised by them are in the wolfpack.

Details

Each day, the Tanner can weakly disguise up to two players, this can include the Tanner themself. Disguising players is an immediate effect. At the start of every night, if there is a living player disguised by the Tanner who is part of the wolfpack, the Tanner is informed by the Hosts that “At least one living player currently tanned by you is a part of the wolfpack.”. If the Tanner dies, the assigned players will keep their disguises for the night. All players lose this disguise at the end of the night or upon death. The Tanner is not a lycan, is not part of the wolfpack, and is not affected by strong disguises.

What you checking?

I just remembered that tanner gets the pack info at the start of the night instead of immediate lol

Are they finally reunited

02:01

Wolves and tanner

it seems like it

Since angel is dead

poor mat

Finally stein bad luck ends

02:04

Mat jfc

02:04

XD

at least plague gets another chance

I don't want to directly influence that

02:10

Is gamelog for resets still made?

uhhh yeah

I'll do that

02:11

It's good practice

NOOO

02:26

IM SO SAD

02:27

TOWN WAS DOING SO WELL

02:30

@Host can i talk in town square

02:30

i wanna join the festivities

02:30

pls

:p

thanks bestie

What did I miss

03:08

Oh shit

03:08

Host leaked the role list

03:08

Demote time

03:08

HAHAHHAHA

03:09

MY BAD PLAY DOESNT COUNT ANYMORE

03:09

THIS IS AMAZING

σ//σ

03:10

It's getting logged

No

03:10

Unlog it

03:10

Like y'all accidentally (edited)

03:10

Posted the

Werewolves Broadcasting Company

It's getting logged

do i get points for going hard

Role list

even though its resetting

I'm doing it tomorrow out of spite now

I was too busy drawing

kek

Like my job required

03:11

I'd like to see you handle a hardcore wwr job in this economy

03:11

Also I meant to ask

Piffling Fisher

do i get points for going hard

Can't say cause I don't know myself, but we'll probably talk about what happened this game after the reset finishes

Are roles truly randomized

Yes

Alright bet bet

I put it into the generator myself

Are all games here

03:12

Like that

03:12

Or just some

Most is what I've been told

Gotcha gotcha

03:12

Anyways

03:12

Which host

03:12

Can I bully

03:12

Now

03:12

That's my last question

Curated role lists are rare cause we gotta consider how everyone's gonna play their role

03:13

You can bully me

03:13

I'm joking about the spite bit

I know lmao

03:13

I'm joking about the bullying

Werewolves Broadcasting Company

Curated role lists are rare cause we gotta consider how everyone's gonna play their role

hosts watching in horror as they fail to predict i would kill myself N1 as assassin (it might prove a gallant fox was on me)

Wait, what happened to cause reset?

03:19

And do I still get my win if it gets reset???

03:20

Wait… why is fish alive role?

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1285904445955248292/1286480696529125396

03:20

@Hustling Huckster

cause i asked to talk in town square

And cause I ducked up :D

WTF?! How did that all happen?

I forgive you Gh0st

I posted a message intended for here into story time

Ghost! You never make mistakes! Stop learning from me!

And we're logging the reset

03:21

Your win is gonna be logged in the reset gamelog

For the love of our god Mike werewolf. Do I get my win?!?!

03:22

Like… maybe points and a token

03:22

im sad cause i think that was going to go good for town

03:22

they had a very good chance

03:22

and i wanted a win..

Town was 100% gonna win

No token for being lucky Huck

what about me

03:23

:pleading:

LUCKY?!?! No way!

03:23

I talked my way out of becoming mayor and also got others to vote me for lynch.

03:23

That must be something skill based.

Well yeah though that was you being scummy and you do that as town as well

Also. Someone must see how appropriate your name is for the mistake ghost

It's my fault huck won

03:25

I take the blame

QwQ

i want a token

03:25

i havent gotten one in a long time

I want a token. It was peak gameplay for me

Can we trade tokens or use them together?

I'll talk with Krem about how we're gonna distribute tokens after the reset game

You can give tokens to other people

I set up the derp thing day 0 to seem scummy the next day. Then let that simmer. Then wiggled out of mayor. I’m giving myself my own token

03:27

But I won’t be angry if I don’t get one. I respect our great corporations decisions

03:27

Gruff Gangster

Can we trade tokens or use them together?

I’ve been trying to use my tokens for months on a theme.

What theme did u want huck

03:28

Donuts?

Yes lol

03:28

Good guess

03:29

And the huck dating show. Like, the bachelor themed (survivors get roses and make it to the next day) and the survivors get to marry me (canonically)

I was hoping there was a way to use them to design really stupid roles

Roles are a tough thing to get in the game. There is a lot of balancing that happens before they get tested. And you need a champion to back the role.

That's too many words

03:31

Idk what I'm even doing here half the time

Lmao

I presume champion is a mod

03:31

Or sum

You’re my moral support of course

I get held at gunpoint to join

03:31

Dw

Yeah, champion is someone on the mod community in a way of saying

I wanna watch a mod only game

03:32

That sounds funny

You’d need to get in wwr vip.

03:32

One kind of just happened.

03:35

I’ve had a role in the maybe list for like, a century lmao

Sounds scary

But they wanted me to work on it but I kind of just gave up lol

I prefer peasantville

Pleasureville

What role is it

03:36

Am curious

Sisters of fate.

03:37

They thread people together and abilities used on them could go to anyone in the thread (including death) So it kind of messes up info incoming. They can also cut people from the thread if they don’t want them in there. And some other stuff

03:38

Iirc killing someone in the thread kills everyone on the thread. But I don’t remember.

03:41

Found it (less the details)

03:41

Sister of Fate | Solo Killing - Sister Team Basics The Sisters of Fate weave threads between all living people and may choose to cut the thread at any given time. Each night connect two people together to create a thread between them. Whatever effect happens to the thread ripples through all members of the thread. Details Each night, the Sister may choose to immediately tether two players together. Players tethered together are added to a shared secret channel, called "thread".

Bet

And they whisper to the channel with the thread

03:43

Hmmm… You know what I’m thinking sniper?

03:43

Shh, don’t tell

Sounds funny

03:49

I like it

Sniper, there is a good place to look for what they look for in terms of new roles. Pretty sure it’s in the suggestion section somewhere.

05:36

Tips for Role Suggestions When suggesting a new role, keep these things in mind: • Does the role fit well into WWR thematically? • Does the role fit well into WWR mechanically? (are there clashes or synergies with existing mechanics?) • Is the suggestion different from existing and previously suggested roles? (re-suggesting a role similiar to a rejected one will usually not help) • Are there any interesting interactions with existing roles? • Does this role make the game more interesting for all players in a game with the role in play?

05:36

@Gruff Gangster

more general

Oh. Mb.

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