Werewolves Revamped - actuallyimabigfanofmallards

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so is this a reaction lynch or a genuine lynch

I'm also a big fan of mallards

they're my faves

18:32

but seriously, i know I'm not fully confirmed by any means but I'm definitely more confirmed than stein so I don't know why he's trusted enough to be reporter and liase with you but I'm not trusted enough for you to lynch ddd

18:32

if it's a reaction lynch - good plan i approve

18:32

if it's genuine - why

I don't trust either you or stein

18:34

Let's just say town was put in a difficult situation

18:34

I'm confirming priest tonight though

18:35

The lynch is genuine, I trust stein a decent amount and if he's town we have a 66% chance of hitting wold

oh god you're gonna waste a check? i get wanting to check me but if you're going to waste one it should have been last night!

Wolf/scum

18:36

Check's definitely not wasted on you lol finding true priest is huge and I have no reason to trust you

i counterclaimed pack

18:38

you can 100% trust that i am not pack, i know you don't know my playstyle but check with anyone and they will tell you i would never claim priest as solo (it's dumb, wolves will probably kill you if they get into trusted and I would've expected wolves to ctc it anyway, way easier and safer to claim TM as solo), and tanner is dead which means the only scum role i could possibly be is recluse

18:39

I'll add you to my cc with fish and you can read back my D1/N2 activity if you want if it helps confirm I'm town but for the love of god at least check a ranger claim tonight considering tanner is dead

18:41

you're right, you can't 100% trust me, but checking me is eliminating one risk and exposing yourself to a different one. there's no option here that isn't risky and i think you don't realise that. the lynch i don't mind so much as the wasting a check

thing is

18:42

with this role list

18:42

i dont want priest to die early

18:42

we need one late game for the citizen claims

18:42

if i mislynch priest here its really bad for town

it is day 3

18:43

again I think ddd is the better lynch but i can understand the reasoning on lore, i don't mind it so much

18:43

it's the check which I think is a massive mistake

18:45

if wolves see through the huntress bait (they could check you with trw) then tonight will be your last check and you should at least do the rangers bc there's no other way to differentiate them, they're a solid 50/50

18:45

with me you can at least throw me at a cit claim

will keep the lynch on lore for now and think about it during the night

okay

18:47

I'll add you to my cc with fish

you have some good points but i need to leave rn

18:47

okay

i forgot I wasn't the owner. i will not do that i am sorry

What timezone are you btw (edited)

brit

19:15

phase changes are at 11 for me

I can't pay attention to the whole debacle in town square

21:44

Can you check who pushes with katy

I'm keeping an eye on it

21:57

but I haven't noticed anyone really siding with her

21:57

mat has been saying useless things though, as has austria

21:57

whilst sniper and kal have been more pushing against her

ok im back home now

23:24

will do some back reading

23:24

and see what we do

okee

how much do you trust steini

23:25

if he says lore was assistant will you confirm yourself on one of the other assistant claims

@Radium Enjoyer stein says lore was assistant

yep im talking to him too

00:03

im thinking

00:03

i think we have to risk me on an assistant claim

00:03

worst comes to worst, it confirms stein as scum for you guys

yea

00:03

thing is

00:03

i believe one of the assistant claims to be plague

probably true

i dont think pack would have 2 assistant claims

one could be a recluse keep in mind

00:04

although i sort of think ddd is recluse

00:04

he's either recluse or plague

you would have killed recluse no?>

nope

00:04

i kill lycans

00:04

recluse isn't lycan

oh

00:05

who do you want to hit\

00:05

swurtle or mat

mat

00:05

shes read so scummy this game

was thinking the same thing

though i think if either of them are plague, mat is

hm

what about cits? how many cit claims do u have?

5

00:06

with 3 towns alive (edited)

00:06

if we're to trust steini then assistants are safer to hit

alright let's see

00:10

our counterclaims: two cit two ass priest ranger our living scum are (if stein is telling the truth): wolf <- probably the ranger? sneaking wolf <- cit claim tracking wolf <- probably ass claim recluse <- priest or cit/ass claim plague bearer <- ass claim plague carrier <- priest or cit claim (edited)

00:10

(pb and pc swappable ftr)

00:10

let me narrow this down

im checking ranger

good

00:12

so according to this mat and swurtle are pb and tracking wolf

00:12

which are the two most dangerous roles

00:12

so i'll def go for one of them

00:12

i'm gonna chat to swurtle more for a bit and see if i can get a better read on her

btw stein says val claimed to be contaminated

believable

00:13

don't tell stein who you're protecting

00:13

probably go for yourself but ill leave the choice up to u

i told him im protecting the other juror, did not give a name

00:13

and ill go on myself

okay sick

the other juror is not known

good

it's cheap bait

he may have figured out the other juror, keep that in mind

stein played this very very townish

Apple Seller

btw stein says val claimed to be contaminated

if one of the rangers die to contamination tonight we can confirm the other no?

yep for sure

00:17

make sure val is on an assistant or cit claim

00:17

including stein - could be helpful

apparently val has already visited stein

okay he's probs scum

and he will die tomorrow night

00:18

who are you holy watering, ill tell stein to make val visit the other assistant claim

switch off the ranger claim - if val doesn't die we know he's scum

yeah

i'll water mat

do i confirm steini here?

00:18

okay

Apple Seller

do i confirm steini here?

i'm kind of thinking you go on a cit

yeah actually true

if i die, we know stein is scum

00:19

also you don't wanna contam yourself

00:19

(you might be contammed tonight anyway ftr)

i feel like people forgot about me since stein took all the heat

00:20

that was the plan we were going for

btw my number one bet for second juror based on town square behaviour would be sniper rn

00:22

so if it is sniper, maybe tell him to tone it down a little

00:22

if im wrong disregard

im putting val on a citizen claim too

00:30

in case he's actually ranger

okay

00:31

keep in mind that ranger doesn't see past snw disguise

i know

00:31

im looking for the one citizen that's not snw'

yea, just making sure

or as fish would call him

00:32

snolf

Our priority here is to lynch plague right?

02:02

If your attack on mat fails we've got a 50-50

02:02

On recluse vs plague

02:02

Should I not check ddd instead to confirm if it's recluse or plague? (edited)

agh we dont get a double lynch tomorrow i forgot

Apple Seller

Should I not check ddd instead to confirm if it's recluse or plague? (edited)

possibly a good plan - at the same time, we do know they're both scum and it might be better to try find other scum

02:04

i would hedge my bets on mat being plague over ddd if my attack fails

It's about tempo right

02:04

If we get the plague wrong we might lose too many towns

02:04

If we get it right without wasting a juror check that's best case

my main thought is that plague seems super unlikely to claim priest

02:05

but it's ddd so i really don't know

The question is

02:06

Can we afford one juror check on ddd to confirm plague and still have a reasonable shot at finding the other plague

02:06

Or do we need to risk it

02:07

I did see that both swurtle and mat pretty much instantly voted the fake hooker

02:07

But I don't know them well enough to make a read

~~i mean there's still a chance that stein is lying~~

02:07

mat voted SUPER early

02:07

if stein is right, then mat is probably plague actually

02:08

like immediate vote

Do you want to hit swurtle instead?

i think im gonna hit swurtle yeah

I have a decently good reason to trust stein here

02:08

Actually let me just check what fish told you guys in the cc again

02:09

At this point if either you or stein is lying I can't see town getting a W outside plague misplaying hard so I'll have to rely on you

hey i've just realised something

02:09

it's entirely possible that mat and ddd are plague together

Yeah

02:10

Realistically we have 2 checks

02:10

Unless they leave me alive next night for whatever reason

can i ask you to take a risk and tell me who the other juror is

02:11

bc then i think i can get better reads on the cit claims

You don't need that info right now, will do next phase (edited)

or wait until morning - yeah

02:12

i dont have time to do reads rn anyway

02:12

silly ask of me

I check ddd now and we trust stein -> find plague -> hang -> still no clue on second plague -> jury must find

02:14

I check citizen/mat now -> hang ddd / mat -> stein confirms?

02:15

It we want to be comfortable we actually require 2 plague hangs

02:15

And at this point we can either risk the first one or the second one

02:17

You know what, it would be cool if val was actually ranger and he can check scum for us after he dies of plague

02:17

I really can't see why he would claim contaminated as scum (edited)

okay how about you get val to target ddd

So hedge the bets?

02:18

Do I check mat in case they're both plague?

02:19

Or do we read mat as plague because of the fast vote

hang on im cooking

I'll make sure my reason for trusting stein is valid rq

02:23

Ok it seems fish didn't blub too much

02:24

Stein should be good here

02:24

Or plague in which case good game to him

okay i think ive come to a conclusion

02:27

i don't think recluse would claim priest because there's a decent chance pack will claim it

02:28

(again it's ddd so i can't be sure of this but)

02:28

i think, if i had to assign roles to the three, i would go swurtle pack, mat recluse, ddd plague

02:31

i don't think elle (who i presume is a cit claim you checked N1) is plague. i do think bobloy has been weirdly quiet, so i would hedge him as plague if he's not juror. i also think huck was acting kind of plaguish, so if bobloy is juror i would check huck.

I currently have my check on bobloy

okay

02:32

i think bobloy is best check

Who's Elle again?

charmo

Yes, not plague

could be random-tanned so it's not certain

02:33

could also be juror! idk!

I'll put val on mat (edited)

yeah i think that's sensible

02:34

at the very least i think we'll know who most scum are in the morning

02:35

you're not gonna die, hopefully your juror partner isn't gonna die, i may die if stein is scum but i increasingly think he's real, stein may die if he's real

Stein dying confirms him as real

if stein dies i suggest myself for rep and you prot me tomorrow night

Wolves know I'm not huntress easily but town probably doesn't so I can come out tomorrow (edited)

02:39

And make you repo

02:39

If stein dies

yeah wolves will probably trw check u tonight

Btw

09:35

There was the whole interaction

09:35

With katy and huck

hmm?

apparently huck claimed recluse

10:32

in a cc with katy

10:32

and katy pinged participants

10:32

and outed him

10:33

idk if you can read that as anything

sorry, checking ddd tonight

10:51

if priest town doesn't just straight up lose

10:51

if plague we have a guaranteed lynch target

10:51

if recluse you're trustworthy and we can lynch based on swurtle dying or not dying

10:51

and then i try to find second plague with the next check

10:54

no thats too slow i need to check bob

10:54

Apple Seller

idk if you can read that as anything

oh yeah

11:51

eh

11:51

I'm just gonna ignore that, those things are so hard to read

shouldve gone for mat

ddd plague

Radium Enjoyer

shouldve gone for mat

swurtle didnt die?

nope

ok this isn't that bad

so swurtle plague or recluse, mat recluse or pack

the assistant claim that died was tanner

13:33

i'd think pack has at least one claim

13:33

we hang ddd today

13:33

you kill mat

13:33

hopefully austria revealed someone good

ok so the reason i trusted stein is'

13:56

on the night coal died

13:56

we actually checked coal

13:56

and saw hooker

13:56

when he gave me repo info he told me coal was hooker

13:56

and wanted to push katy himself

13:57

fish had not told him we're checking coal either

13:58

he had no idea we were checking coal and didnt know the claim list

okay cool