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Werewolves Bot B BOT 4-7-2024 09:12
@David Cameron has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 1 @David Cameron
09:12
βœ… Added @Rishi Sunak to the CC!
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:12
Hi, if you're witch, I hope you target one of the butchers instead of the TK claims πŸ™‚
09:13
Almost forgot to mention
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:13
id rather hit who im hitting because i think i can imagine how things go afterwards and it shouuld be good
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David Cameron
Almost forgot to mention
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:13
whats up?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:13
I mean you could be wolf and tryna get rid of the provable TK....
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David Cameron
I mean you could be wolf and tryna get rid of the provable TK....
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:13
lol i mean, i guess?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:14
i think you shouldnt hit one of the TKs before they have a chance to prove themselves
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You could be wolf and just say the pack hit demon or smth
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:14
we will see
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:14
And kill the actual TK
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David Cameron
You could be wolf and just say the pack hit demon or smth
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:15
if that happens i will cry, the same can happen for butchers though
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i also may or may not be protecting tonight
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id rather not say so wolves, if i talk to any, wont know 🐟
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i do trust you the most of the butchers, though
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:16
Lol no, TK is more important than the butchers
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:16
this is true
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:16
As in if you hit say, ghost and hes actually barber, we are fucked
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:17
i dont think we would be fucked, necessarily
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:17
Anyway im showing this cc if tonights kills are sus πŸ‘€
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:17
lol thats fine
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is uh
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wager kill a night or day
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 4-7-2024 09:17
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Wager [Additional Info - Hell Team]
Details (1/3)
The Wager recipient may choose one of four options: 1) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their soul in order to attack another player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the hell team's soul pool. The Wager recipient then becomes soulless. At the end of the night, the devil will attack the player chosen by the Wager recipient. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the attack is not executed. Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may change the target of the attack, or they may choose to change their chosen option to a protection. They cannot otherwise revoke their choice of option. If the Wager recipient chooses to attack a soulless player, they will sell their soul as normal, but the devil will not execute the attack. The Wager recipient is not informed of this. The Devil is, but the Wager recipient is not, informed of whether the attack fails or succeeds. 2) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their soul in order to protect a player.
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Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. The Wager recipient then becomes soulless. For the rest of the night, the player chosen by the Wager recipient will be protected from any attacks which target them. If the Devil dies before the night ends, this does not negate the protection. Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may not revoke their choice of option nor their choice of target. The Wager recipient may choose to protect themself. 3) The Wager recipient may choose to sell their identity in order to see a player’s role. The devil immediately checks the chosen player's role, and the result is shown to both the recipient and the devil. Afterwards, the devil investigates the Wager recipient's role. The result of this is shown only to the devil. Both of the investigations are affected by weak and strong disguises. Checking the other player is affected by redirections, but checking the Wager recipient is not.
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Once the Wager recipient has chosen this option, they may not revoke their choice of option nor their choice of target. 4) The recipient may choose to ignore the Wager. If the Wager recipient chooses this option, they may choose another option before the end of the night if they wish to. At the end of the night phase, the recipient is removed from the Wager channel. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, but no further wager actions may be executed.
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:17
Night
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Rishi Sunak
i dont think we would be fucked, necessarily
David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:18
Why and how?
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:18
ok well thats a bit worse than i thought cause i thought mato could kill someone tomorrow but i still think we should be fine
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:18
no. He checked someone and contacted me
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David Cameron
Why and how?
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:18
well, if ghost is town, i may (or may not) have a protection and we know multiple wolves that we can kill pretty quickly, along with me knowing a good amount of protect targets
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also brb im grabbing water
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:20
You wont be mechanically confirmable unlike him tho
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How will you be confirmable as a witch?
09:21
If youre wolf, you will hit Ghost who is the actual Barber, and say that the other wolf kill is missing cuz you used the potion to protect someone
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Fish im ngl you sound like a wolf rn
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:21
i mean, the killcount is a pretty good indicator im a witch
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obviously me protecting doesnt mess with that but
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err
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does mess with it
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but surely i wouldnt protect the same night and mess that up
09:22
can i ask if mato hit a scum with an invest check?
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id be down to just stab them instead
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:23
???? I said he already checked? If he checked he cant hit anyone anymore
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:23
no i mean
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:23
The wager is used
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:23
did he invest a scum
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is what i was asking
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or did he hit town
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ok actually thats a stupid question youd have mentioned it by now
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can you at least tell me if he checked ghost?
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or me/sarvak?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:25
Why do you think you need to know?
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:25
well youre defending ghost
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did he check ghost as town?
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i feel like thatd be pretty good to know
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but i dont trust ghost lol
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:26
Maybe, but you're so keen on killing ghost without mentioning sarvak being a possibility
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:26
i was also thinking of killing sarvak
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either one of the two really but my thoughts are
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:26
Well anyway what im thinking is that if youre wolf there will be only 1 kill
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And you will defend yourself by saying its your potion
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:28
1) i think ghost is more likely scum based on reads 2) if i hit ghost and he is neutral/evil then we lynch sarvak who can throw the vote onto scum, confirming themself and then allowing me to protect both of us + mayor to get reporter with at least 2 confirmed town
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sarv has swurtle backing them up and no counterclaims (which i do still think shouldve happened at some point if they exist)
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:29
You didnt say anything about the 1 kill thing, bc im thinking of lynching you if there is only 1 kill, but then thrres a possibility that you and ghost are good
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David Cameron
Well anyway what im thinking is that if youre wolf there will be only 1 kill
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:29
yeah, that is an issue. im just gonna be honest with you because phase change is relatively near and many are asleep so if you are bloody butcher i hope you cant change it, but i do trust you of the three butchers, im saving my protection for tomorrow for this plan, i will not use it today and i will not claim to use it
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David Cameron
You didnt say anything about the 1 kill thing, bc im thinking of lynching you if there is only 1 kill, but then thrres a possibility that you and ghost are good
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:29
mr fish is typing
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:29
Why do you think barber is more fakeable than executioner?
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:30
i dont know if its necessarily fully that, its just that lynching sarv means we get a scum out no matter what because either A) sarv dies or B) sarv kills scum and confirms self as town
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and i just
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dont trust ghost
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:31
At least let him confirm himself first?
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Tomorrow we can lynch him
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If he fails
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:32
im not sure, we miss out on the sarvak lynch if we do that but, maybe. i like my plan and i do think its good. i am also slightly worried ill be attacked tonight but i think me just having a life potion should be enough to dissuade scum
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:33
bro just say youre pack and youre hitting our TK tonight 😠
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:33
if wolves kill like.. sarv, then im pretty obviously town there and we just do the same thing
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im not 😭
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i think the only issue arrises if wolves hit hell but i dont think thats really gonna happen? there are a lot of claims in the air and hell is probably just laying low, or is ghost
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:36
Yea i have a feeling youre wolf since youre also a TK claim and hitting ghost is so stupid
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:37
well, we will see how things go
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:37
we will get a message that ghost is barber (if he is), so if we dont get that message we can just lynch him
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Why are you against this plan so adamantly
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:38
who do you suggest i hit?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:39
ddd maybe
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:39
thats my other thought but
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:40
"But"
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:40
IDK if i trust mato, or even you for that matter, and ddd is so weird
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:40
You know its logical to not hit a potential mechanically confirmable role
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:41
it can be in some cases, especially when we have jurors, exec, witch, butchers and barber in the mix
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i swear half of the roles are mechanically confirmable or at least in some way or effect confirmable
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oh yeah huntress too
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from my view there is one (1) other TK
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:42
Even if ghost is fake, he should be hell and you wont be able to hit him with potion you know that right?
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:42
and i really just dont trust ghost, so id like to not have all of those TK running around
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David Cameron
Even if ghost is fake, he should be hell and you wont be able to hit him with potion you know that right?
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:42
yeah im fine with that and i think thats the most likely thing to happen, itll just drain their resources
09:43
and then sarv can get lynched
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:43
No thats just a waste
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:43
its still a drain on their resources and is more info than not hitting them
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:43
Wait why sarv lynch if ghost is fake
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:43
because sharl exists and could be TK, and if sarv is real they throw it onto ghost/DDD/anyone else who pops up
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and confirm themself
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then get protected by me so we get a town reporter
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:50
Its really weird you trust sarvak over ghost with your life and yet youre so unsure about me/mato/ddd lol
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:50
its because of the swurtle juror thing with no counterclaim
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:50
Like the risk is higher with the former
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Why would juror cc?
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:51
i think when there are 3 (4) TKs out and one is being protected by a fake juror, you should definitely out that because at the time when there were 3 TK claims, sarv being scum implies im town, and i can protect 3 people, so i can protect all of the jurors and the other TK
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them not coming out is weird
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if they exist, which i doubt it because yknow
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:54
I'll tell you this, a juror contacted the butchers some time ago. They said they are still alive
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**jury is still alive
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 09:55
so swurtle is just lying?
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or is it a juror with swurtle
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also why are all of these people coming to you lol
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 09:59
Yeah, that. I dunno, I guess they just trust me
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 12:16
sorry for just like
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disappearing
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i didnt really know how to respond and i was playing a game and kinda just forgot
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 12:18
yeha thats fine we will see how today turns out, sorry lol after last game i went very skeptical to you
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 12:18
its ok my friend 🐟❀️
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 12:19
anyway im tired and busy in b-lands, but ill tell more after we finish this
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sorry for my super agitative mood
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 12:19
ahhh dont worry about it, its all in good fun
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:09
so uh
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i notice a lack of ghost killing someone
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im terrified
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:12
heyy
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if ghost snipes mato we can just vote someone else
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:12
im up for mayoring you or me personally
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i feel im a snipe target though but
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probably you
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🐟
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no but
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:13
maybe, but i might be sabbed ugh
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:13
yeah i mean
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if the snipe already happened
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i might be a fine mayor cause i cant be sniped anymore
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ill protect 3 random people and ill also be immune so wolves have a high chance of missing a kill
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alternatively uhh
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sharl could be a fiiine mayor?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:14
oh yeah
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:14
yeah i just thought of it while typing
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:14
we need to be watching the poll closely though
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:14
huntress claim, IDK if its real
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:14
before phase end
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:14
yeah so like
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idk if ill be at PC
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ill try
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:14
i agree with sharl, i think hes least likely sabbed
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:15
ye
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well
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sharl came out during the night, could also be sabbed
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so many sab options IDK
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obviously we prioritize mato
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if mato is sniped we jump to sharl you think?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:15
yeah
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:16
works for me
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:16
sharl claimed pretty late
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so i thiiiink there is a chance wolves already sabbed someone else
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:16
is it immediate?
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 4-7-2024 13:16
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Saboteur Wolf [Werewolf Power]
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Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player to disqualify from the public election poll.
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Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player. That player can still be voted for in the election poll in the following day phase, but should they win, nobody is elected. The selected player can still be lynched and can still vote in the election poll. The Saboteur Wolf may not sabotage the same player two nights in a row, but can sabotage themself or others in the wolfpack. Sabotaging is an immediate ability.
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:16
yes
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:16
thats good it means they could just not have a second choice, sharl works
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just to make sure, if mato is sniped with like 8 (random number) votes, if we get 2 does it pass?
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:19
yeah we talked about it not too long ago, but i forgot what its called
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goddamit there was the term for this
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:20
IDK IT!!!
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:21
@Host hi uh there was the mechanic/rule in which the 2nd most votes on election is still elected after the 1st one dies midday, what was it called again? does that still apply?
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pretty sure it applied before
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i want to make sure if there are changes
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:22
as a side note is it just me or did ghost kinda just admit to being devil by asking why he was attacked
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:49
@David Cameron i didnt even think about wolf cause we talked about devils so much lol
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we might not get sniped
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still be vigilant obviously but
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he could be scared wolf right?
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thats just a weird play
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:49
yeah but why claim barber
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:49
and ive been reading him as hell
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yeah
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David Cameron
@Host hi uh there was the mechanic/rule in which the 2nd most votes on election is still elected after the 1st one dies midday, what was it called again? does that still apply?
Mr. Turtle 4-7-2024 13:55
Not sure what it's called, but it's true. In the event of the top candidate of a poll dying, the second candidate will be elected. At least that's how I'd handle it.
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:55
okay cool
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we need some ppl to vote on an alternate candidate
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:55
i might not make PC so i can if youd like
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well that might like
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show our plan
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maybe we should snipe it at PC
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:58
i mean we can vote now too
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:58
i dont really want ghost to see our votes
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until after he kills
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 13:59
oh true, but he cant do anything with just 1 soul but also your kill wasnt proven technically
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he could have 2 souls
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 13:59
in my world, he has 1
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can he attack twice with two? doesnt matter for ME but yknow
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 14:05
yes
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he can use as many as he likes if hes devil
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if he has 10 there can be 10 kills
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 14:05
that makes me feel better cause at first i thought he had 1 soul not 2 and i thought i negated him entirely
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at least i negated like half of it
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 14:13
so uh
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im starting to think mato is the bb
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but im unsure anymore
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its not that he did sus but his vibes come across as tryhardy to me idk
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😭
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but like ddd did nothing useful
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 14:14
well IDK i dont have the inner workings of your group but like i said DDD is weird
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yeah
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Mr. Turtle 4-7-2024 15:09
Sorry, Fish, I lied @Participants. A new rule change happened recently:
When a player dies during a phase, they still remain a votable option on all polls where they previously were a votable option on. Should a dead player win a poll this way, the consequences of the poll are not executed.
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It is in fact the opposite of what I said
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Sorry for the inconvenience.
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 15:09
Ummm bro???
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"Recently" but we had always been doing the pre change thing always
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😭
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Mr. Turtle 4-7-2024 15:10
Wha
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 15:10
I mean, okay, ugh
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David Cameron
"Recently" but we had always been doing the pre change thing always
Laura Kuennsberg 4-7-2024 15:15
Previously, we had vote neutralisation - i.e, the votes on a dead player were neutralised and essentially didn't count. We removed vote neutralisation at the end of S11, so a dead player can still be voted for and "elected".
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 15:16
Man that is unfortunate
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I guess its an indirect buff to devil team huh πŸ™„
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Laura Kuennsberg 4-7-2024 15:17
It wasn't designed as a buff or nerf, it was designed to resolve some annoyances about soulsniping.
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 22:04
i wake
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@David Cameron is there anything i should know
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 22:07
Uhhhh
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We need to have everyone remove the vote from mato if mato is soulsniped
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Just dont have him the majority vote
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Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 22:08
that sucks considering he has like 12 votes
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 22:08
But like if hes gone..... one of my bb suspects are gone. Idk. I think he was being sketch but ddd is there
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David Cameron
But like if hes gone..... one of my bb suspects are gone. Idk. I think he was being sketch but ddd is there
Rishi Sunak 4-7-2024 22:09
surely both of the other butchers are "one of your BB suspects"
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🐟
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David Cameron 4-7-2024 22:09
I knowww
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 00:31
Sorry i was wrong, ghost is some sort of scum after all
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 00:31
its alright gamer
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 00:32
But he didnt use any souls?
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 00:32
it confuses me too
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like
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he was obviously scum
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 00:32
I guess he could be scared wolf
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 00:32
but not devil? yeah i was about to say
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could be woof
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 00:32
I just didnt think why claim a mechanically confirmable role at all
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But also like he could be wolf cub and youre a wolf πŸ‘€ just sayin
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 00:33
i scum read him very hard but IDK whats up with the no soul kills
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David Cameron
But also like he could be wolf cub and youre a wolf πŸ‘€ just sayin
Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 00:33
this is probably a world too yeah
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but
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how did uhh
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harper die
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oh well
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we just killed her, right (edited)
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i forgot theres no confirmation i actually attacked ghost
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 5-7-2024 01:04
βœ… Removed @Rishi Sunak from the CC!
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βœ… Added @Carla Denyer to the CC!
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 01:04
This is my entire argument with fish starting from the above
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**from the start of this channel
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David Cameron
Well anyway what im thinking is that if youre wolf there will be only 1 kill
David Cameron 5-7-2024 01:38
Oh yeah and i said this too
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 5-7-2024 08:20
βœ… Added @Boris Johnson to the CC!
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βœ… Added @Ed(d) Davey to the CC!
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βœ… Added @Rishi Sunak to the CC!
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:20
what i wasnt even recycled
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 08:20
i dont want you to flood while sarvak read!
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Boris Johnson 5-7-2024 08:20
Carla replaced you
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:20
sarv isnt even HERE
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wtf
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oh wait
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duh
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 08:21
they are
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:21
wait what
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im so confused
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it doesnt show the chat from after i got removed
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it just says $cc remove @Rishi Sunak then us two being added
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Boris Johnson 5-7-2024 08:21
I can see it
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Ed(d) Davey 5-7-2024 08:22
I actually really didn't care about the contents I just wanted to be sure that this was a legit CC doesn't seem faked at all
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:22
lol
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 5-7-2024 08:24
βœ… @Ed(d) Davey left the CC!
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 08:24
lol
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okay then
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:25
i was so sad when you removed me arch
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:(
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David Cameron 5-7-2024 08:26
TLDR i think your decision to kill a possibly confirmable town the night before they could prove themselves is just so stupid, and sarvak while being backed up by swurtle, could be a wolf and UA play (this was my thought before the sarvak reveal)
08:27
but now its impossible to prove you anymore, which is convenient πŸ™„
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Rishi Sunak 5-7-2024 08:28
its INCONVENIENT!!
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