Werewolves Revamped - fishybusiness

Werewolves Revamped

Os12c-But-Better | CC 1 / fishybusiness

@MBTA Subway has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Tashkent Metro @MBTA Subway

heya

07:42

i think it should be pretty clear im town from your perspective at this point?

07:42

have people been claiming to you?

Some

09:13

Like four people

no journalists?

09:13

id like some info if i may

but its cool if not

09:14

i will say if theyre claiming now its a bit late

No Journos

yippee!

I mean, if everyone in my CCs & public are truthful, I have all of Town accounted for except Cleric, so all non-claimers would be Cleric & the entirety of Wolf team

wild

But that's a big if

cleric claimed publicly

09:15

it was uhhh

09:15

who was it

09:15

i might be thinking of last game ngl

Huh

09:16

Let me know

09:16

I have course now

09:16

I'll try to be back before phase change (edited)

it was this game

09:16

oceancookie is cleric claim

Tashkent Metro

I'll try to be back before phase change (edited)

o/

Oh

10:12

What did the Reporter claim again?

10:13

Sorry, I was kinda swamped the entire time of this game

10:14

Nvm I have two Priest claims.

Tashkent Metro

Nvm I have two Priest claims.

can i know who?

10:39

press nonclaimers for claims

10:39

we will push them if they dont

10:39

imo

MBTA Subway

can i know who?

Not before I have all claims

10:48

Or I tell you right before phase change.

I'm so lost

10:58

I'm like 95% on Mat being scum btw

11:00

@Participant does it make sense to give Priests two different targets?

11:04

Non-claimers are

11:04

annoying

11:06

11:06

One of the Priest claims acted like the ability was immediate @MBTA Subway

11:06

I think we found scum

sorry im uh

11:08

playing league

11:08

thats wild

11:08

who was it?

No worries

11:09

They kinda walked back on it

11:09

So now I'm less sure

11:12

Five Wolves are alive, this is DISGUSTING

11:15

Okay, I'll have to trust someone in case I die. Kalimoor & Austria are the Priest claims. Kalimoor is watering Alex for a 50/50. Austria is watering Mat. Mat has been checked as a threat N2 to Vera (AT).

Alive Players | Total: 14

- sharleclaire (@Paris Métro)

- kalimoor (@Montreal Metro) duckgive

duckgive

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Metro Warszawskie)

- captainluffy (@Chicago "L")

- lightpulp (@Toei Subway)

‍

- matstress (@Melbourne City Loop) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Hong Kong MTR)

- mister.turtle (@Tashkent Metro)

- theoceancookie (@Metro de Barcelona)

- sniper__22 (@Osaka Metro)

- mrrfiish (@MBTA Subway)

️ - mctsts (@Tunnelbana, Stockholm)

- cha1nsaw.devil (@ToxinsLittenUwU)

- toxinfate (@Toxin) (edited)

thank you my friend

11:15

sorry for not talking much im with friends

If a Journo didn't claim, I'm blaming them for it.

promote me?

11:19

for later just in case

11:19

make a new succession CC too perhaps

So, if Kalimoor dies (and wolfpack kill appears accounted for), I'd wager that Alex is likely Butcher and we lynch the Mayor. If Kalimoor & Alex live, then Kalimoor is likely scum, possible Alex as well. If Alex dies and Kalimoor lives, Kalimoor is likely the true Priest. If Austria dies (and wolfpack kill is accounted for), the AT check was a mischeck and Mat was Amnesiac -> TK? This is very unlikely. If both live, either Mat is SK (Pyro/Devi), or Austria and Mat could be both Wolves. The chance that Mat is Town is unlikely given the AT check. If Mat dies, Austria is almost 100% confirmed, because wolfpack wouldn't target Mat (I don't think, although Pyros could ignite or Devil wager, I suppose).

11:20

Sure.

Alive Players | Total: 14

- sharleclaire (@Paris Métro)

- kalimoor (@Montreal Metro) duckgive

duckgive

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Metro Warszawskie)

- captainluffy (@Chicago "L")

- lightpulp (@Toei Subway)

‍

- matstress (@Melbourne City Loop) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Hong Kong MTR)

- mister.turtle (@Tashkent Metro)

- theoceancookie (@Metro de Barcelona)

- sniper__22 (@Osaka Metro)

- mrrfiish (@MBTA Subway)

️ - mctsts (@Tunnelbana, Stockholm)

- cha1nsaw.devil (@ToxinsLittenUwU)

- toxinfate (@Toxin) (edited)

We kinda suck right now, because we're at a 7 Town, 1 Pyro, 1 Devil, 5 Wolves.

11:21

And who knows w/ solo kills, who will die tonight and with Priest kills.

Command error. You are not an owner of this CC!

MBTA Subway

promote me?

You literally own the CC bruh

oh

11:22

yeah

11:22

sorry im very distracted right now LOL

If you're scum the game is lost anyways.

11:24

Just please make sure Mat dies next phase!

11:24

95% scum there

i shall, my friend

I'll give you the rl I guess

11:25

You have all relevant info anyways

i mean if im trusted, lol

You're the closest I'll get with non-claimers

yeah

11:25

it happens

11:25

it sucks though

Townsfolk

Aura Teller - ~~Vera~~ Priest - Kalimoor or Austria Amnesiac (2) - ~~Luffy (Assistant), Reporter (?)~~, Mat (Priest), Ts (Huntsman), Sniper (Exorcist) Journalist (2) - Fish, ~~Arch~~, Coal Butcher (2) - Turtle and Mayor Runner - ~~Sarvak~~ Cleric - Oceancookie/~~Lightpulp~~

Werewolves

Bloody Butcher - Alex Saboteur Wolf Psychic Wolf Scared Wolf Disguised Fox

Hell Team

Devil Demon - ~~Swurtle~~

Pyro Team

Pyromancer (2) - ~~Ghost~~

Unaligned

Angel - Sharl?? (could be coal)

Non-Claimers (shame on them)

Sharl (edited)

1

11:27

Wait, someone is unaccounted for

11:28

There are six scum unknown but only 1 duplicate (Priest) + 4 non-claimers

Signed Up Players | Total: 19

- sharleclaire (@Paris Métro)

- kalimoor (@Montreal Metro) thight

thight

- swurtle (@NYC Subway) duckgive

duckgive

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Metro Warszawskie) ❤️‍

- user left (@Metro de Lisboa (they/them))

- captainluffy (@Chicago "L")

- lightpulp (@Toei Subway)

- user left (@Berlin U-Bahn)

‍

- matstress (@Melbourne City Loop) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Hong Kong MTR)

- mister.turtle (@Tashkent Metro)

- theoceancookie (@Metro de Barcelona)

- sniper__22 (@Osaka Metro)

- user left (@Seoul Metropolitan Subway)

- mrrfiish (@MBTA Subway)

- user left (@Metrô de São Paulo)

️ - mctsts (@Tunnelbana, Stockholm)

- cha1nsaw.devil (@ToxinsLittenUwU)

- toxinfate (@Toxin) (edited)

im really sad that you may die before i can actually talk to you

I'm confused who I am missing

how do you mean?

Nvm.

11:29

I'm confusing myself

11:30

Austria is the one that acted as if the ability is immediate, claimed that Mat was Solo because nothing happened. Could be a genuine misunderstanding, but just keep that in mind. She said that she misunderstood and saw that she'd first get feedback end-night

scum not counterclaiming me is a massive misplay also for the record

11:31

kinda wild

Well, they could be in Sniper/Lighpulp imo, but they have yet to claim

11:32

There'll probably be another AMnesiac claim or something.

amne makes sense

11:32

if they counterclaim me while im TT im gonna laugh

Yeah, they've had enough time.

11:33

I just read Alex scum fsr because the Mayor felt quite towny, but could also be coached tbh.

11:33

Butcher chat is dead.

11:33

Alex was dismissive of Sarv's Runner claim

11:33

Could be Townie paranoia, tho

11:34

Also Austria asked for my role lol

11:34

I hope I don't waste Town killpower on a Butcher

11:35

OH I FORGOT COAL

11:39

Is Coal playing?

subbed in iirc

Not on the player list, is missing from my role list

now im confused

What

why isnt coal on the list?

I think the bot made a mistake

11:52

‍♂️

strange

Lightpulp just claimed Cleric

i wish you didnt include your reason in succession tbh

11:59

theyre gonna use it to be like HE ISNT CONFIRMED i bet

Yes, but I just want to be open.

12:00

In case you are actually scum, in the off-chance, that

12:00

people don't blindly follow me

thats fair but its kinda like you said, if im scum its COOKED

True.

12:01

I guess we hope that I stay alive then

ye

Ayy

oh wow

12:03

i did NOT expect that tbh

It looks like Kalimoor is legit

12:04

Died: Reporter, Lightpulp, Alex & Luffy.

12:04

I assume Pyro ignition.

12:04

Both Amne claims died lol

i also just finished league!

Mat didn't die, so Austria is probably scum.

im gonna go make some food though

12:05

and then we can talk

Sure

12:09

There is an off-chance that Mat is Solo and Austria is Priest/Kalimoor got lucky with Pyro ignition/got wolfpack to kill Alex.

12:09

But I choose not to believe that.

12:09

Pyro ignitions: N1 - 2 people N2 - 1 person N3 - ignition At most 3 can be pyro.

12:09

Less if one of them died.

12:10

2-3 pyro + 0-1 wolfpack + 0-1 Priest

12:10

Can of course also be overlapping.

food has been acquired

12:26

time to backread

Tashkent Metro

One of the Priest claims acted like the ability was immediate @MBTA Subway

can i get an explanation of how this went?

12:27

also WHEW we shouldve made a journo code before PC but i was too BUSY to THINK ABOUT IT

12:27

good thing i lived

12:27

and you!

I asked them to water Mat. Two minutes later they said that it didn't work - I asked for clarification, and she said she had watered Mat just then and that they must be Solo/UA. I said thanks, thinking this was a slip. A couple minutes later she comes back calling herself dumb, saying that Mat is still maybe Solo or UA based on a read. I ask 'wdym', and she clarifies that the ability is end-night. Last night she forgot to water someone, she claims. She asks me for my role

12:50

After phase change I asked whether Mat was watered. I got a yes, and that Mat must be Solo or UA.

asking you for your role is so real

12:55

sooo

12:56

alex died when kali watered them, mat/austria both live

12:56

kali is either real priest or killed as a wolf/pyro

12:56

and then austria left mat alive

12:57

mat claims... nothing?

12:57

wild

12:57

i think mat is by far the safest vote LOL

12:57

i forgot dead AT checked her

12:57

@Tashkent Metro i need you to announce yourself as reporter and mat as lynch, please

12:58

oh wait youre totally sabo'd

12:58

i guess maybe i go for reporter?

12:58

kinda unideal

12:58

i suppose i should go for it

12:59

would you wanna announce mat lynch and me reporter?

Hmm, I'll announce Mat lynch and Reporter tbd. I'd like to have a couple more claims.

13:04

Kalimoor suggested we go for a lynch on them

thats fair but i will say youre probably sabo'd

And then switch off

13:04

To throw sus on them.

thats funny and id be down if youre fine with it

But with a possible Wolf majority, I think it's too risky.

yeah i mean

13:05

it is a tad unnecessary id say also

I just don't trust inactive Town/Wolves to actually switch off tbh.

yeah

13:05

i do think i should be reporter though

13:05

i would very much like it

13:05

im already outed and have some sus so no shot wolves hit me, and im the last on-death role

13:06

@Tashkent Metro

Hmm.

13:06

Sure.

unless theres like an amne huntress or something

13:06

but yeah

13:06

thank you my friend

Alive Players | Total: 10

- sharleclaire (@Paris Métro)

- kalimoor (@Montreal Metro)

‍

- matstress (@Melbourne City Loop) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Hong Kong MTR)

- mister.turtle (@Tashkent Metro)

- theoceancookie (@Metro de Barcelona)

- sniper__22 (@Osaka Metro)

- mrrfiish (@MBTA Subway)

️ - mctsts (@Tunnelbana, Stockholm)

- toxinfate (@Toxin) (edited)

We're 11 people

that is NOT a lot of people for D3

Signed Up Players | Total: 19

- sharleclaire (@Paris Métro)

- kalimoor (@Montreal Metro) thight

thight

- swurtle (@NYC Subway) duckgive

duckgive

- aleeeeeeeeex (@Metro Warszawskie) ❤️‍

- sarvak_deshnaur (@Metro de Lisboa (they/them))

- captainluffy (@Chicago "L")

- lightpulp (@Toei Subway)

- venomousbirds (@Berlin U-Bahn)

‍

- matstress (@Melbourne City Loop) token

token

- pokemoncross (@Hong Kong MTR)

- mister.turtle (@Tashkent Metro)

- theoceancookie (@Metro de Barcelona)

- sniper__22 (@Osaka Metro)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Seoul Metropolitan Subway)

- mrrfiish (@MBTA Subway)

- jeand.arch (@Metrô de São Paulo)

️ - mctsts (@Tunnelbana, Stockholm)

- cha1nsaw.devil (@ToxinsLittenUwU)

- toxinfate (@Toxin) (edited)

how many nonclaimers died?

None. Lightpulp claimed right before phase change.

whew

13:13

thats good

13:13

well

13:13

or bad

We lost both Amne claims, a Cleric claim and a Butcher claim.

i kinda sus the nonclaimers more so...

So, assuming Alex as BB, we have 4 Wolves (at most), 1 Pyro & 1 Devil. 5 Town. This is if Lightpulp, Luffy & the Reporter were all town. In that case the six remaining scum are the four non-claimers, Oceancookie and Austria. This is the worst case-scenario. I think the Reporter was Town. Luffy was un-ctced, but could go either way. Lightpulp to me is a 50/50. The fact that as Cleric he was so aware of phase change ('in case I die tonight', 'I forgot about phasechange') might mean that he's scum. It's just a read I have. In that case we'd be 4-5 scum depending on Luffy and, likely 5, and 6-7 Town. This is what I'd prefer.

13:17

We have no idea how many Souls Devil has.

yeah im not sure how much we will learn pre-PC

The Devil has 2 + 0 + (0 or 1) - 1 + (0 or 1) = 1 to 3 Souls currently.

gulp

13:22

what are the odds i get blasted to kingdom come today

13:22

we need to make a journal code before that

13:22

who should i send it to?

13:22

its on priest rn

13:22

@Tashkent Metro

13:22

im now anxious about being blasted LOL

Do Priest or Cleric

MBTA Subway

im now anxious about being blasted LOL

Yes, it is a concern.

15:26

@MBTA Subway Mat claims Amne -> Priest

15:30

What is more likely, this or Austria

Coal claimed journalist but said he RNGed the target as 'ur mom'? So I'm kinda like

15:40

Confounded

I got three Amne subs

17:43

claims*!

17:44

Amne -> Priest - Mat Amne -> ? - Reporter Amne -> Assistant - Luffy Amne -> Huntsman - Ts Amne -> Exorcist - Sniper

Coal is acting very angel-y, now I'm confused as to what Sharl is?

17:54

Ts: Sarvak N2 (no) Fish N3 (no)

17:57

I think Mat lynch is fine. 3/5 to be scum (Amne claims). Also like after the AT check there were 7 scum roles that would have shown up as threat and max. 3 Town (Priest, 2x Amne->TK). With two Priest claims, though, and at most 1x Amne->TK imo, the odds are 1/8 for Mat to be Town in that case.

17:57

So like statistically I'm just kinda

17:57

Mat is the best bet.

17:57

And this might be the one time where it's the 5% off-chance

17:57

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17:57

Oh well

17:58

In light of new Amne claims I think Mat is lying, Reporter is truthful and one of Sniper/Ts/Luffy is truthful.

17:59

2x Priest seems a bit TK heavy and hard to balance. Huntsman + AT seems TI heavy. Exorcist could be, although it has no effect on Hell, so it's only half-effective.

17:59

Ts scares me because he's very consistent in all his info, but I know he's a really strong player

17:59

I'm going offline soon, enjoy all this mediocrity

I put Kalimoor as our Replacement in case we both get soul-killed. I think the Alex kill confirms them. If they're scum we've probably lost either way.

@Tashkent Metro just woke, are you around to make a code?

22:32

for now im just gonna say "fishybusiness" with priest

22:32

i forgot i can do it alone

22:32

ill tell them to go to you

22:32

"This is some fishy business"

1

Okay

22:34

Kalimoor asks that you make a succession cc with him at some point

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 5-12-2024 22:34

I'll ask HunTsman to check Coal.

22:34

Also I'm going to bed now.

Tashkent Metro

Kalimoor asks that you make a succession cc with him at some point

is kalimoor confirmed confirmed?

22:35

ill add kali to the journal code

No

22:35

Kalimoor is a Priest claim.

22:36

I haven't given them much info, it's just with Alex dead, they seem very legit. Whereas their counter-claim doesn't.

right right

22:36

i get it

Tashkent Metro

Townsfolk

Aura Teller - ~~Vera~~ Priest - Kalimoor or Austria Amnesiac (2) - ~~Luffy (Assistant), Reporter (?)~~, Mat (Priest), Ts (Huntsman), Sniper (Exorcist) Journalist (2) - Fish, ~~Arch~~, Coal Butcher (2) - Turtle and Mayor Runner - ~~Sarvak~~ Cleric - Oceancookie/~~Lightpulp~~

Werewolves

Bloody Butcher - Alex Saboteur Wolf Psychic Wolf Scared Wolf Disguised Fox

Hell Team

Devil Demon - ~~Swurtle~~

Pyro Team

Pyromancer (2) - ~~Ghost~~

Unaligned

Angel - Sharl?? (could be coal)

Non-Claimers (shame on them)

Sharl (edited)

update this?

Tashkent Metro

@MBTA Subway Mat claims Amne -> Priest

i kinda feel like its just desperate for a counter to AT ngl

22:44

wait

22:44

no it cant be, right?

22:45

amne is N2 i thought? and she was checked N1

Amnesiac [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Amnesiac has forgotten their role and only has a vague idea of what it was. They will remember it at the start of Night 2.

Details

From the start of the game until the start of Night 2, the Amnesiac is a normal citizen. At the start of Night 2, they will get to know their role. This role will not be known to the rest of the players, but it will be one of three townsfolk roles that the Amnesiac is told at the start of the game. If the Amnesiac changes into a role that has a power limited to a Day or Night that has already passed, they have to use it in the following Day or Night. If they change into a role that receives information or is part of a group at the start of the game, the Amnesiac will receive the information or join the group directly after changing role.

meaning the check is irrelevant

22:45

or uh, role

MBTA Subway

amne is N2 i thought? and she was checked N1

Swurtle was checked N1 I think

22:47

Mat N2

one sec

22:47

lemme search

Tashkent Metro

Mat N2

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313857470233444455

Oh.

so hey

22:49

22:49

glad i ask those kind of questions

22:49

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mat is EVILLL!!!

It's on me for not bothering to backread what happened while I slept.

nah its cool

That makes me more hopeful.

we are already on mat anyhow

22:51

okay turtle

22:51

who do we trust MOST?

22:51

cause if we both die its kinda COOKED i think

Kalimoor imo.

i hope we can get a guaranteed scum hit for the priests tonight

Austria can be real Priest is Mat is Pyro/Angel/Devil. Although, would AT be affectef by disguise? I guess not.

im gonna post the full role list in my journal

Guaranteed scum hit is Coal imo

i just remembered thats a good idea since theyre town

Journalist claim

GAH

22:53

KILL

22:53

KILL

22:53

KILL

22:53

KILL

Who gave journal to my mom and then RNGed it to Scared Wolf or something anf then retracted it?

...what?

He apparently RNGd to give the journal to Saboteur Wolf?

SURELY you trust me more

22:54

either way im already in here

22:54

can you update the role/claims list please?

22:54

im gonna put it in my journal to send to priest so they can eldritch blast any obvious scum after we die

22:54

if we die, anyhow

Oh, nvm. He said someone told him to give it to Sab W and he refused and isn't targetting

MBTA Subway

can you update the role/claims list please?

Sure

Tashkent Metro

Oh, nvm. He said someone told him to give it to Sab W and he refused and isn't targetting

either way i dont care cause like

22:55

>dead journalist

22:55

>am journalist

22:55

who is THIS IMPOSTOR???

22:57

i cant wait to get reporter and see journalist is alive and you lied and its over

22:57

that would be so unfortunate

22:57

LOL

22:57

i highly doubt it though

Tashkent Metro

Townsfolk

Aura Teller - ~~Vera~~ Priest - Kalimoor or Austria Amnesiac (2) - ~~Luffy (Assistant), Reporter (?)~~, Mat (Priest), Ts (Huntsman), Sniper (Exorcist) Journalist (2) - Fish, ~~Arch~~, Coal Butcher (2) - Turtle and Mayor Runner - ~~Sarvak~~ Cleric - Oceancookie/~~Lightpulp~~

Werewolves

Bloody Butcher - Alex Saboteur Wolf Psychic Wolf Scared Wolf Disguised Fox

Hell Team

Devil Demon - ~~Swurtle~~

Pyro Team

Pyromancer (2) - ~~Ghost~~

Unaligned

Angel - Sharl?? (could be coal)

Non-Claimers (shame on them)

Sharl (edited)

Updated?

angel shouldnt be coal because sharl was checked by the old reporter

22:59

so if we trust old reporter we trust that sharl is angel

22:59

meaning coal is wolf 9/10 times id say

Yeah, but we don't KNOW if old Reporter was truthful, we don't even know their role.

22:59

Yeaj

this is true

I agree

22:59

I do trust the report a bunch.

same

Because it just makes like perfect sense.

im gonna post your list in my journal now, and say that coal is 100% evil please nuke them

But hopefully you can check for yourself

ye

MBTA Subway

im gonna post your list in my journal now, and say that coal is 100% evil please nuke them

I'm sleeping now, but please send Report info asap in case you get SKed after phase change

gn my friend

23:01

and yeah i will but also i can only be SK'd in day, no?

MBTA Subway

im gonna post your list in my journal now, and say that coal is 100% evil please nuke them

I asked Ts to check Coal, is this fine? Or a waste?

23:01

Thanks, goodnight.

Tashkent Metro

I asked Ts to check Coal, is this fine? Or a waste?

a waste in my eyes

MBTA Subway

and yeah i will but also i can only be SK'd in day, no?

No, Soul-killing can be anytime.

check Not Coal

23:01

this is from my biased perspective of Literally Being A Journalist

True. I guess it will depend on Report. You go tell Ts what to do. I'll tell him you'll be in contact.

gahh i have to make a CC to do that

23:02

do i even have one

23:02

(the answer is no i dont)

23:02

could you please do that lol

23:02

just add me to it perhaps?

Ok

why are you so sure about alex being BB, by the way?

Not owner

ah right

MBTA Subway

why are you so sure about alex being BB, by the way?

Read + killed by Kalimoor

Tashkent Metro

Not owner

tell him to change targets then, please?

Tashkent Metro

Read + killed by Kalimoor

right right

But yes, it is not confirmed.

23:06

Mayor could be coached.

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