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Pyromancer

Pyros

Pyromancer

You are part of the Pyro team. You win when all remaining alive players are part of the Pyro team or Unaligned.

what role are you

BUUURRRRRRRRNNNNNNNN

20:37

Oop

20:38

Pyromancer

I absolutely hate playing solo

o7

20:38

Solos are fun to play though

I keep getting solo

20:39

okay well anyway it is what it is

We can only hope you don’t get meta killed again

Tunnelbana, Stockholm

I keep getting solo

genuinely random

20:40

list randomiser gave you this

yea

20:40

Gonna file a lawsuit against the randomizer

20:41

I hope somebody appreciates my metro line hair

20:41

its the stockholm metro

I definitely will now that I’ve noticed it

20:42

Very nice hair

And there is no ccs at the start either??

Mhm

20:47

One every two phases

20:48

Only two of us though but we can better coordinate

I suppose the best town play is to claim Runner

20:50

then for wolves to ctc

20:52

suggestion: I convince you to ignite immediately for strategy reasons but secretly powder myself

20:55

what do we claim in this

Journalist is claimable and the amnesiacs are wildcards

Tunnelbana, Stockholm

suggestion: I convince you to ignite immediately for strategy reasons but secretly powder myself

I don’t catch your meaning

So basically I come up with a convincing argument how me powdering another person and you igniting is a great N1 strategy

20:57

You then choose ignite

20:57

But I powder myself (instead of another person) (edited)

20:57

And thus die

20:57

Do you see the brilliance in this strategy

20:58

anyway the only data we have to go on is ddd's claim and it is dubious if this can be used

Tunnelbana, Stockholm

And thus die

If a Pyromancer is powdered and ignited, and thus attacked, the ignition fails and the attacker is informed.

20:59

not letting you off that easy bitch

Lmao

see that is the true brilliance behind the strategy

20:59

I will then claim attacked runner

20:59

and as the attack didn't go through it will all add up

There still scared wolf

21:00

Your plan isn’t foolproof

true but its an extremly solid plan

It’s going to just bring unwanted attention early on

see that is the point

21:00

I will then get lynched D1

Do you really hate solos that much?

No

hes just having a tantrum

But I love the bit that much

he'll get over it

I was over it about 2m after game start

ts stands for toddler strop

I'm just playing for time until I have a genuine strategy

21:02

Anyway the true brilliance behind the strategy is that I then reveal im actual Angel

21:02

but in a way where they think I slipped

21:02

I then dont get lynched and can hang around until the rest of the game

Again very risky and there is a chance that you are scared wolf for town

But you see we then powder and kill me again N2

Wolves will know that you’re not a wolf and will want to kill you

And you claim to be AT who saw me as not a threat

21:03

And wolves will kill me too so there will only be one kill

21:03

thus you become TT

You’re putting a lot of trust in me as a wwr player

I'm suggesting nonsense just to be clear

21:05

There is no "the failed pyro attack" and the "attacker runner" claim add up because nobody would expect a pyro attack so it would absolutely not add up as there'd still be the same amount as expected kills

I’m aware

Good

I’m also super distracted by being on a call

You see that is the true brilliance behind the strategy

21:06

Make sure everyone is distracted by a call

21:06

They will then be unable to comprehend my strategy and think it must be valid

21:06

And then we win

Ooooohhhhhhh that makes sense

21:07

Yes yes

Excellent

21:07

You start

Hello? Is this an Arby’s

Yes

21:12

Okay these are our claim options: AuraTeller

AuraTeller

Aura Teller Priest

Priest

Priest

Amnesiac

Amnesiac (2)

Journalist

Journalist (2) Butcher

Butcher

Butcher (2) Runner

Runner

Runner

Cleric

Cleric

Angel

Angel

21:12

I would say Angel is out

21:12

Because Angel sucks and is lame

21:13

Idk why I puts Butcher on the list but uh no

that would be an elite strat tbf

it would take a lot of guts

i will give u 10 tokens if u pull it off successfully

Why do you keep encouraging my gamethrowing strategies, im at the end of my wits

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Alrighty, its time to start the gamethrowing then

21:19

Gotta get that streak of resets going

21:22

AuraTeller

Aura Teller Priest

Priest

Priest

Amnesiac

Amnesiac (2)

Journalist

Journalist (2) Runner

Runner

Runner

Cleric

Cleric

21:23

I think Runner is just guaranteed to go for a claim ctc play D1

21:23

so it has an extremly high chance of having to public claim D1 in a three-way claim

21:24

which would leave Cleric, Journalist, Amnesiac, Priest and Aura Teller as valid claims

21:30

Is it a good strategy for butchers to public claim?

21:30

I would think so(?)

21:31

It is advantageous for pyros to know butchers

21:31

But would it be pyroish to ask for butcher public claim thonk

thonk

21:31

(In general we can expect at least like 2? butchers to die by other means so I think they dont make great targets, probably)

21:33

When ddd claimed "metro" was butcher the only other metro to have spoken is "Budapesti Metró"

21:33

swurtle explicitly claimed not butcher

21:34

Roles

@Paris Métro

@Montreal Metro thight

thight

@NYC Subway Runner

Runner

Runner

duckgive

@Metro Warszawskie - Butcher

Butcher

Butcher ❤️‍

@Metro de Lisboa (they/them) Runner

Runner

Runner

@Chicago "L"

@Toei Subway

@Budapesti Metró

@Berlin U-Bahn

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@Melbourne City Loop token

token

@Hong Kong MTR

@Muni Metro / @Tashkent Metro Butcher

Butcher

Butcher

@Metro de Barcelona Cleric

Cleric

Cleric

@Osaka Metro

@Seoul Metropolitan Subway

Pyromancer

Pyromancer

@MBTA Subway Runner

Runner

Runner

@Metrô de São Paulo

️ @Tunnelbana, Stockholm

Pyromancer

Pyromancer

@ToxinsLittenUwU

@Toxin -

Butcher

Butcher

Butchers

Has "Metro" in name and thus might be who ddd meant to claim as butcher (edited)

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21:37

there's so many metros did ddd just say metro to make his claim seem slightly believeable but he is not butcher

21:39

the thing is what purpose would this play have as scum

21:39

wouldn't make any sense

21:39

also it would be the same play as in the previous game then (mostly) which would be unlike ddd

21:39

so I would think maybe higher odds on it being true

21:40

im gonna roll a player that is not ddd, you, me or a metro

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21:41

▶️ Selected @Budapesti Metró (

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THAT IS QUITE LITERALLY A METRO

21:41

ah I didnt do wl

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21:41

▶️ Selected @Toei Subway (

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^ delayed powdering this perosn

21:44

realistically mat can maybe also be excluded as she instantly talked and mightve been harder to miss as she may have done the same in a potential group

Oops

22:47

Yeah

Syntax error. Unknown command wl!

Oops

Syntax error. Invalid Player: <:thight:836385531289927690>,!

22:48

Syntax error. Invalid Player: 🎨,!

22:48

Syntax error. Invalid Player: 🏹,!

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Syntax error. Invalid Player: 👁‍🗨,!

22:48

Syntax error. Invalid Player: <:token:1162000508693774377>,!

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Syntax error. Invalid Player: 🐟,!

22:48

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▶️ Selected @Toxin (

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That is not what I wanted to do

22:52

Ohhhh I know what I did wrong

22:52

I'm such a dumbass

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22:52

▶️ Selected @Toei Subway (

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22:54

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22:54

▶️ Selected @Berlin U-Bahn (

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Here's to me getting the command wrong four times QwQ

Tunnelbana, Stockholm

^ delayed powdering this perosn

Is this who you're powdering?

Yes

Swurtle and fish claim runner

12:41

Ocean claims cleric

alex toxin butchers

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 3-12-2024 13:04

sarvak claims runner

voting swurtle: kalimoor mrrfiish sarvak_deshnaur pokemoncross

15:18

pokemoncross votes for fish mayor

15:23

ah I didnt realize ghost died

wow mean

i was at work

17:12

anyway this sure does suck

17:12

I dont think there is a winning play here anymore

17:12

so I'll likely not ignite unless there's significant reason to do so

17:14

ill do the smartest powder choices I can think of but I dont think that would lead anywhere

17:15

Powder Choices

@Paris Métro

@Montreal Metro thanger

thanger

TownsfolkCard

@Chicago "L" Angel

Angel

@Budapesti Metró offline

offline

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@Melbourne City Loop TownsfolkCard

TownsfolkCard

token

@Hong Kong MTR thanger

thanger

Mayor

❓

@Osaka Metro offline

offline

@Metrô de São Paulo HellCard

HellCard

@ToxinsLittenUwU thanger

thanger

Swurtle Lynch Vote Mayor

Mayor

Fish Mayor Vote TownsfolkCard

TownsfolkCard

Lean Townie Angel

Angel

Mentioned Angel as an option when nobody else has offline

offline

IA

HellCard

Odd in regards to Hell (edited)

17:15

pyromancers are out obviously

17:15

runners and butchers are out as they're very game involved right now and thus unlikely to survive long

17:15

cleric claim is out as they public claimed cleric

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and are thus a good attack target

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unless its a smart DF play

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If its a DF play it could be a solid chance but I have no reason to risk it

17:17

vera was powdered by ghost from what I understand

17:18

lightpulp by me

17:18

so 9 options remain

17:19

two of these are swurtle lynch voters

17:21

sharl talked about amnesia(cs) a lot in town square and like nothing else

17:21

its joking only but still

17:22

kal notably didnt understand that we are not lynching a butcher

17:23

which would indicate he is not part of a group that is discussing how to deal with the publically suggested strategy of lynching a random runner or the group just doesnt discuss it

17:24

though there is another occurence of kal being confused about butchers https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313504659310121082

17:24

and he jokes about how three runners is ridiculous

17:24

lean townie?

17:24

ah he prompts butchers to come out

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also he correctly opposes the strategy of cleric public claiming

17:27

luffy raises the valid point that one of the runners might be angel

17:28

budapesti metro is IA

17:30

mat calls out bandwagoning which is very valid

17:32

pokemoncross is an incomprehensible enigma as always

17:33

snipe has not said anything game relevant

17:34

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313503523157311621 why?

17:34

why not hell

17:34

are you hell?

17:34

and know this is not a hell play?

17:37

this reduces the chances of the cleric thing being a DF play

17:37

even if its still valid

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but unlikely

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should be noted that arch is the only player to complain about a N1 start! https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313265226757439598

17:39

arch makes another pyro/wolf accusation https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313478362261622836

17:39

the thing is these are particularly weird as hell as a disguising solo team and is more likely to go for any weird strats

17:40

a realistic explanation could be that they simply missed that hell exists

17:40

however it is pretty damn hard to miss in the role list

17:40

even if you only expect a single solo team

17:41

straight up ad in ts lmao?https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1313227291270189188/1313523490304954551

17:42

nothing game relevant from them other than that

17:43

okay well thats my backreading on all potential powder choices

okay so assuming I cannot win my goal is to maximize Enemy Dead %

22:49

so I fucked that up

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And that also means I should be igniting tonight

22:50

But I don't really feel like that would improve the game in any meaningful way

22:52

Ive kinda been playing as I would as a town role but that's a bad strategy in this position as it's more likely to get me killed

22:52

But also the strategy to maximize ED% is to be relatively quiet

22:52

Which just sucks

22:53

Also I hate playing to maximize ED% as that requires me to kill other players (eliminating them from the game) when I dont even have hopes of winning myself

22:54

So I don't think I will try to rush out kills even if it doesn't maximize ED%

22:55

I'd rather have players be able to play longer from an admin view than to potentially gain an extra like 0.05p due to increased ED%

22:55

Actually thinking about it ED% keeps counting after my death

22:55

So I want to equalize the teams to have a long endgame, right?

22:56

The best outcome is a single survivor for an ed% of 5.55%

22:57

in this regard im not sure if pushing to not lynch fish is an action that will prolong or not prolong the game actually

22:58

regardless of what my objective should be I have beef with wolves because they killed my teammate so im hoping fish is town and it was the right town-sided play

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▶️ Selected @Chicago "L" (

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excellent AT is dead

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so I must side with town more

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