Werewolves Revamped

@Bonny has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 1 @Bonny

23:13

✅ Added @Pythe (They/Them) to the CC!

Hiii

23:13

I checked you as RK

Heya!

23:13

You FT?

Yup

Sweet so at least I'm confimed

Tanning as RK would be stupid anyway, so im positive ur real

I don't even think wolves have an info role so I can't doubt you either

23:15

Alliance?

Yeah sure

23:16

More like confirmed town chat

Fair

23:17

Just said alliance cause there is a chance I could be fake

23:18

I'll confirm myself fully eventually when I stop lynch

23:19

Should I claim that I've been verified by FT?@jeand.arch

23:21

@Bonny

You'll be killed n1

23:21

U cant use ur power until like d2

I meant in like CCs and stuff

We only have 1 cc rn but when the time comes yeah

✅ Renamed channel to town_chat!

Im gonna lie a bit and claim journo so i wont be targetted

14:29

But i wont insist on attacking the other journo claims, just fishing for reactions

14:30

And this way it discourages scums from claiming journo

im trying to pull my weight here so i dont get lynched randomly. fucking ddd and his stupid ass $ roll

Sorry I haven't been online

16:48

@Bonny can you check swurtle today?

so theres just mat and swurtle

16:57

i think theyre actually journos

16:57

since im ft trying to discourage fakecllaims

16:58

wait nvm theres dummo

@Pythe (They/Them) should i check swurtle? I personally think shes really journo and if she isnt, she might be tanned anyway

00:03

Im down to check a sus person if you have any

Mayor is very likely to be tanned cuz shes on the spotlight

i wanna check turtle bc he failed my vibe check

02:24

sarv let me know if ya really want to check swurtle cuz i think since shes mayor she might be tanned. if theres no response ill check her anyway. Turtle remains my suggestion for now @Pythe (They/Them)

Sorry I was asleep

06:43

But yeah she could be tanned, but does wasting night to check make sense? If we confirm tanned we can safely assume DDD is also scum, right?

Pythe (They/Them)

But yeah she could be tanned, but does wasting night to check make sense? If we confirm tanned we can safely assume DDD is also scum, right?

Ddd was on me not on swurtle

07:25

I think he trusted swurtle?

Yeah exactly

07:25

DDD was endorcing swurtle

07:25

Did DDD roll in public?

Yes

Oh sorry my bad then

Pushed me based on that

07:26

Im just saying that outside of me there are exactly 2 journo claims

Yeah, possibly not scum, but definitely too rushed to lynch rn especially with no info

So they might be real since we dont have a journal haver come forward if Dummo is one

07:27

Do u have any suspicion?

Bonny

So they might be real since we dont have a journal haver come forward if Dummo is one

Fair. Do we assume swurtle is telling the truth and focus efforts elsewhere then?

Yeah, personally i lean to trust her

Bonny

Do u have any suspicion?

My immediate thought was DDD using a roll as a way to cover a wolf endorsement

One problem is that idk what to do if you get randomly attacked tonight lol

07:28

Ok can we check ddd?

07:28

If u want

07:28

Or someone else?

07:28

We try not to check someone on the spotlight as theyre probably tanned

Did you check swurtle last night? Idk if you got the results yet

No, i havent sent the command yet

Oh

07:28

Mmm

07:28

Yeah I think we check ddd

Just reconsidering options

07:29

Ok we do ddd

Or we check the other journal claim?

Same reason as swurtle ig

07:29

Ok im gonna check ddd

Phantom also a good shout, since they joked about being journal but said they're lying, so we could maybe figure out what real role they were deflecting from?

07:30

But ddd feels like the safer shout

Ok we wait for host

07:31

Omfg

07:31

DDD IS SABOTEUR WOLF

OMG

07:32

So swurtle also scum? Why would DDD push so hard for a non-pack mayor?

lmao he could be tanned but like. I think one of the journo claims might be instead

07:32

He rolled

07:32

Got swurtle

Yeah but he pushed too

07:33

He didn't just roll, he pushed afterwards

He rolled for both lynch and mayor

07:33

Ok now the question is what do i do if ur somehow killed tonight randomly lmfaooo

I feel like he would've just "these are the rolls" if he didn't know his endorcemet was pack or not?

Bonny

Ok now the question is what do i do if ur somehow killed tonight randomly lmfaooo

It's unlikely, I haven't been active in town chat really I don't think I'm a target?

Well, the thing with him is that he "rolled" and killed the rolled result for fun on the town square as a wolf before

Oh so ddd plays unpredictable?

True but the almighty $roll command might smite you

07:35

Yeah hes chaotic

Noted

07:35

So don't trust any of his words or actions

There was a moment when he just neighed with emojis all game as a horseman

07:35

07:36

Yeah its impossible to read ddd

Bonny

True but the almighty $roll command might smite you

If I'm killed I don't think it really affects you lol

07:37

I'm kinda powerless here

Yeah but town has no lead

07:37

No way im stepping as a town lead

07:37

Maaaaybe i bite the bullet and cc one of the journo claims

Maybe I try and vibe check swurtle?

07:38

If they're safe, they're new town lead if I die

Swurtle might die too if shes town but why

07:38

I guess wolves wanted to prevent reporter

07:39

Wait if u want u can cc swurtle and vibe check her, ask what role she targetted her journo to

07:40

She should be targetting cit, imo

Oooo good idea

07:40

Who claimed cit again?

07:40

I remember someone claimed cit with the journal claims

Lucy and Mato

Alive Players | Total: 13

- relaxedmato (@Ketch)

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit) ❤️‍

- sarvak2 (@Pythe (They/Them))

- katyhawk (@Felir)

- jeand.arch (@Bonny)

‍

- matstress (@Ester) wasted

- swurtle (@Swan)

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty)

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy) undeadga

- ddd8000 (@Delly)

- louise0091 (@Lucy)

- mister.turtle (@Timmy) (edited)

Bonny

Lucy and Mato

Wait 2 cit claims?

Yeah mato claimed it

07:41

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1228348334775992351/1228851986825478175

Claims | Total: 13

- relaxedmato (@Ketch) - Cit claim, unconfirmed

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit) ❤️‍

- sarvak2 (@Pythe (They/Them)) Royal Knight claim, confirmed

- katyhawk (@Felir)

- jeand.arch (@jeand.arch) Fortune teller, confirmed

‍

- matstress (@Ester) wasted

- swurtle (@Swan) journal claim, unconfirmed

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty)

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy) undeadga

- ddd8000 (@Delly) Confirmed sabo wolf

- louise0091 (@Lucy) - Cit claim, unconfirmed

- mister.turtle (@mister.turtle) (edited)

hopefully ur not sabotaged

Bonny

hopefully ur not sabotaged

Tanned you mean?

07:43

Sabo affects votes doesn't it?

no, it prevents u from being elected

Saboteur Wolf [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player to disqualify from the public election poll.

Details

Each night, the Saboteur Wolf may select one player. That player can still be voted for in the election poll in the following day phase, but should they win, nobody is elected. The selected player can still be lynched and can still vote in the election poll. The Saboteur Wolf may not sabotage the same player two nights in a row, but can sabotage themself or others in the wolfpack. Sabotaging is an immediate ability.

OH I thought you meant cause you hoped I wasn't scum disguised lol

07:46

@Bonny am I vibe checking swurtle then?

07:46

What should I say?

i think shes asleep but you can try

Oh maybe we plan then

smth like "hi im trying to figure out which one of you three is fake, what role did u give ur journo to?"

07:47

thats only if u want

07:47

cuz im pretty sure shes asleep

If I come out that antagonistic, is there a chance if they're scum they target me?

uhhhh yeah of course, theres that risk

07:48

maybe not worth it after all

Maybe I claim to them, under the guise of wanting to form a town trusted?

claim bored cit maybe

07:49

and say that ur gonna do some reading cuz u have no power

I'd rather not unnecessarily lie, it'll just make me look suspicious later if I need to real claim

07:50

But also, note: I am bad

07:50

Lol

07:50

Like fair warning I do suck at the game

its a game about lying sooo

07:51

u can prove your role though

07:52

it doesnt matter if ppl sus you

Royal Knight [Townsfolk Power]

Basics

Once per game, the Royal Knight may cancel the lynch.

Details

After Day 1, the Royal Knight may cancel the lynch at any time of day or night, and it will apply to the current or upcoming lynch. If there are several lynches, the Royal Knight may only cancel one of them: they may choose which one. Cancelling the lynch is an immediate ability. However, the fact that the lynch has been cancelled will only be revealed at the end of the day. The Royal Knight also chooses whether they want to be revealed or not. If they choose to be revealed, both their role and name are announced: otherwise, neither is.

you can cancel lynch and ppl will trust you

Fair point

someones turned undead

12:07

Do we tell town that DDD is sabo to push for a lynch?

12:07

We can set up a town trusted super early into the game and start claim checking

idk, if you claim publicly you will be demonized and attacked, tomorrow ur gonna be undead

12:08

but we want town to unite

12:10

but we want ddd to be lynched today

Bonny

idk, if you claim publicly you will be demonized and attacked, tomorrow ur gonna be undead

We could just do that thing where we quietly vote for someone and hope people just assume "that's the person we're voting for" and don't say anything? We get a quiet lynch without drawing attention to our selves

So ur saying we snipe ddd?

13:36

Ppl will notice lol

13:38

I thought of a plan. Ok so u can claim rk, get reporter, and hopefully we know everyones roles. In the case you turn undead tomorrow, i will kick you from the chat and lead town on my own (edited)

13:38

Even if u have info as an undead, you wont know what town will be doing

Am I claiming?

Bonny

I thought of a plan. Ok so u can claim rk, get reporter, and hopefully we know everyones roles. In the case you turn undead tomorrow, i will kick you from the chat and lead town on my own (edited)

Sounds good

13:54

Should we push for DDD lynch? Since I have eyes on me anyway now?@jeand.arch

yeah

13:54

we should

I think they know you're FT now

14:08

You're backing me up, and voted with me

14:08

It's clear we've communicated externally

14:09

Did you get the results back btw?

urgh yeah well lets see if they bought my claim

14:10

results?

From the FT

Bonny

sarv let me know if ya really want to check swurtle cuz i think since shes mayor she might be tanned. if theres no response ill check her anyway. Turtle remains my suggestion for now @Pythe (They/Them)

From here

Fortune Teller [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Each night, the Fortune Teller may check one player’s role.

Details

Each night, the Fortune Teller can inspect a player. The Fortune Teller will be told what their role is. Inspecting a player is an immediate ability. The Fortune Teller gains more information, but is affected by weak disguises and redirections.

It's already been night, right?

its 2 nights

14:11

i only checked 2 ppl

Bonny

i only checked 2 ppl

Yeah so you checked me night 1, who was your second night check?

@Bonny

Pythe (They/Them)

@Bonny

ddd as sab wolf

14:24

remember

OH SHIT

14:24

Sorry I'm stupid

14:24

Could you target Gast tonight please? They've claimed as huntress and getting that confirmed could be good

i think its better that we vote ddd without the cancel and you prove that youre rk tomorrow by cancelling

14:25

to see if ur undead

They won't go for that

cuz undeads cant cancel anymore

They're saying me suggesting it just makes me sus

urg

14:26

theres also a chance that assassin already dead, or wolves can fake it and say whoever they target is demonized

14:27

i think the worst case here would be ddd undead and wont die from assassin, and you get killed by wolves

Wait, but if I get confirmed and voted in, if I turn undead isn't that super bad for town?

exactly

14:28

if u cancel tomorrow you will die if ur undead

14:29

actually, demonized will die from lynch

I probably shouldn't be saying this if I actually want to win XD

we can opt to lynch ddd tomorrow too, and shoot someone else

14:30

if youre still town u should be aiming for town win regardless

I'm joking, to be clear

or its gamethrowing to aim for undead win con

Fair

urgh i still want ddd dead today, thats annoying

14:31

cant really think of a good option

I've told swurtle my concerns, hopefully they see sense

14:33

@Bonny can we check ghost?

yeah i guess

14:34

but if he's uncontested, whats the point?

14:34

we know huntress is alive since we know if their target dies

14:36

just saying that if theres no counterclaim, we can assume ghost is real

14:36

if dummo was huntress we wouldve seen another death

im sorry, sarv, i just noticed that saying ddd is wolf is a blunder

14:46

if we didnt tell anyone hes wolf we wont worry about him being demonized

14:46

i shouldve seen it lol

Swurtle seems to be on board

whats she gonna do?

14:52

ideally we vote ddd and you confirm tomorrow

14:53

swurtle has double votes

14:53

but she has high chance to be undead

They think lynching DDD tomorrow is a better idea

sure, lets just not tell the assassin to kill ddd tonight

14:57

we will kill another scum instead

14:58

less odds to be demonized

Do we ping town again to alert assassin?

well it would also mean that they claim to you

Should we tell mayor or huntress you're FT? @Bonny

nooooo

15:15

swurtle is unconfirmed

15:16

just say u have the info from FT that checked u n1

15:16

swurtle can be undead

15:16

huntress will be confirmed if theres no ctc i think

I pointed out that agreeing to my play helps confirm they're not undead, since the original play would be much better for the undead team

15:19

Canceled the lynch cancel

just keep an eye on the poll wolves can snipe and in the case u have the most votes, u can re cancel it

Yeah I'm keeping a close eye

Pythe (They/Them)

Yeah I'm keeping a close eye

will u be up before phase change

When is phase change?

15:54

@Bonny swurtle is wanting you to confirm then as journo

15:54

SHIT

15:54

I said '"I'll ask"

15:54

Which confirms I'm in contact with the FT

15:55

I'm so stupid

Sure ig we can check

15:56

As long as u dont drop my name

Pythe (They/Them)

When is phase change?

In 7 hrs

Bonny

As long as u dont drop my name

I didn't

Bonny

In 7 hrs

Yeah I should be up, that's like 10pm for me

Ppl are doubting u but u can just say "if i was scum id be lynched tomorrow anyway. Faking rk as scum is basically suicide. But i got info from TI that ddd is sab wolf so if we get him out we can elect safely"

16:00

Sab means we may not get guardian

16:00

With vampire in play we need to take out scums asap

16:00

Phrase however you like but thats my argument if i were u

16:01

U can say u got the info from TI, just not drop names and it should be good

Pythe (They/Them)

Yeah I should be up, that's like 10pm for me

Sarv, do we want to confirm ghost or swurtle today?

Sorry, I didn't get pinged for this

Bonny

Sarv, do we want to confirm ghost or swurtle today?

Swurtle

Hmmmm

16:42

It depends for when u get reporter and what role dummo is

16:43

Actually she could be tanned idk

16:43

Or undead

16:43

We still dont know who the undead is

anyway i go to sleep. keep an eye on the poll. remember that swurtle has 2 votes @Pythe (They/Them) if possible i can try reminding u minutes before phase change

17:30

cant guarantee tho

I have an alarm set just in cass

17:32

I've got it delayed, just in case

@Pythe (They/Them) here to make sure you did delay the cancelling. Seems like we have to lynch ddd tomorrow lmao

Bonny

@Pythe (They/Them) here to make sure you did delay the cancelling. Seems like we have to lynch ddd tomorrow lmao

I've confirmed the cancel

Alright. After the night phase and you are confirmed, make sure to ping everyone to claim to you

Will do

You also chose to reveal right?

Yeah

23:01

THEY WERE PYROMANCER

23:01

Actually huge

LOL

Dummo that is

23:02

We still have one undead to keep on mind

And firebug, which becomes pyro

Anyway, can we decide who to check after you get everyones roles?

Makes sense

I still dont think swurtle is a good check

Matto public claim cit, mattress is doubling down on the journo claim

Bonny

I still dont think swurtle is a good check

Yeah we'll probably find a better one in future

Doubling down?

23:04

Oh she insisted ok

Like they're privately claiming it to me, and saying they're targeting journalist on their journo

Can u ask her to change to citizen

Gave me the codeword, so if they die it confirms or unconfirmed swurtle

Hmm

23:05

If swurtle is undead the journal is lost tho

23:05

I guess thats the point

I asked them to change it to cit

23:08

Turtle is claiming cit @Bonny (edited)

Yikes, remember when i suggested to check him lmfao

23:10

Anyway i think with assassin alive we should let them kill anyone who isnt ddd

23:10

And let ddd lynch happen tomorrow

23:10

Also wolves didnt howl yet

23:11

I thought its a perfect timing to howl to kill both you and ghost

Ping me if something important comes up, it's late for me and I'm getting ready for bed

We need to know assassin i think

23:19

Id say you ask for assassin to claim just tonight

23:20

I mean they dont have to shoot whoever you target starting tomorrow in case of undead

23:22

@Pythe (They/Them) can u ask for assassin to claim and shoot another target than ddd just tonight? Tomorrow they dont have to kill your target (ill be keeping the target a secret) to avoid undead strategizing (edited)

23:23

Ideally we want to hit the vamp today

23:23

But we will do some reading

23:24

Well i think i have a good chance to die too. My fault lmfao

Ok so my investigation pick would either be Turtle, Fish, Ozzy, and Katy. Will change my opinion if one of them is assassin

@Pythe (They/Them) let me know who assassin is once they contact you, so i can determine who to check

03:44

and we need to plan the kill too

03:44

hopefully assassin is awake

Actually ykw im gonna check tutel

08:11

In case i die tonight, remember not to make Ghost guardian bc he is going to be sabotaged

08:11

Id say make Mat guardian instead

@Pythe (They/Them) i took the liberty of checking turtle and hes pyro, when ur awake, tell the assassin asap to shoot him

08:21

i think vamp might be Katy

08:21

If shes not assassin

Bonny

@Pythe (They/Them) i took the liberty of checking turtle and hes pyro, when ur awake, tell the assassin asap to shoot him

Katy said she's assassin, but so did Ozzy

Uh so one of them wolf then, urgh

Yep

Would vamp claim it

Unlikely unless they had a wolf alliance

But we need to kill turtle

08:42

Did fish claim?

08:42

Oh right what about phan

Hmmm... I could tell them both to kill turtle?

They should all cit claims ig

What Ozzy said along with their claim: "Also, why did you suggest not to kill DDD? Isn't that useful to save our vote for some other wolf? Me killing DDD will take out a scum plus wolves can undead you as well, right? If DDD doesn't get killed, I can claim to everyone and say that DDD has turned into undead"

08:43

"Sarvak, if you see this, I'm planning to shoot someone else. Someone who has not claimed yet and has chances to be a non town more"

Hmm.

08:44

Is ozzy online?

Katy just said "I am assassin"

Bonny

Is ozzy online?

No

Urghh

08:44

Lets hope hes online before phase ends, but i guess we tell them to shoot turtle

Maybe I just tell 1, and if turtle dies we know who the liar is?

Turtle could be demonized

Urgh true

Also if who you told is lying, we would spend a night without killing anyone

08:46

I say we tell them both we kill turtle, ping them before night ends

I told Ozzy to shoot turtle for now, they're online apparently

08:46

Thank God! You responded, I was about to shoot ribbit. But noted!

Alright

08:47

Now we have to figure out the vamp which is a pain in the arse

Bonny

Also if who you told is lying, we would spend a night without killing anyone

But then we don't know who assassin is

08:48

I think we tell them to kill different people.

Tell katy to kill fish

Fish hasn't claimed yet

Yeah, hes usually proactive as town

Noted

Alive Players | Total: 13

- relaxedmato (@Ketch)

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit) ❤️‍

- sarvak2 (@Pythe (They/Them))

- katyhawk (@Felir)

- jeand.arch (@Bonny)

‍

- matstress (@Ester) wasted

- swurtle (@Swan)

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty)

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy) undeadga

- ddd8000 (@Delly)

- louise0091 (@Lucy)

- mister.turtle (@Timmy) (edited)

Im guessing philly didnt claim anything?

Oh they claimed cit

Hmmmmmmmm

08:50

I think between mato/fish/philly, mato feels wolfier but philly isnt exactly towny either ugh

08:51

Fish is more solo than wolf i think

Claims | Total: 13

- relaxedmato (@Ketch) - Public claim cit - unconfirmed

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit) - not claimed ❤️‍

- sarvak2 (@Pythe (They/Them))

- katyhawk (@Felir) - claimed assassin, unconfirmed

- jeand.arch (@jeand.arch)

‍

- matstress (@Ester) - claimed journo, unconfirmed but trusted wasted

- swurtle (@Swan) - claimed journo, unconfirmed but trusted

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly) - claimed cit, unconfirmed

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty) - claimed huntress, unconfirmed but trusted

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy) - Claimed assassin, unconfirmed undeadga

- ddd8000 (@Delly) - confirmed sabo wolf

- louise0091 (@Lucy) - claimed cit

- mister.turtle (@mister.turtle) - confirmed pyro (edited)

Avctually fish hasnt talked since the beginning of the day yesteday

We can't use activity levels

Yeah exactly

08:54

Between Mato and Phan, who is more suspicious cit claim?

08:54

Wait would it be dumb to tell assassin to kill each other?

Well turtle also claimed cit, and said "mato claiming cit public is giving me Sus vibes"

08:55

So if anything I'm more inclined to trust mato

Bonny

Wait would it be dumb to tell assassin to kill each other?

Yes, very, since town loses our only killing role and wolves just lose 1 of theirs while we still have other killing scum

Well wolves wont kill whoever you told them to

08:56

They only have 1 kill

08:56

And its going to one of the town trusted

08:57

But u can also say smth like "The reason being that their claim is the least trustworthy" so it makes wolves think theyre some cit claim

08:57

Anyway, im leaning on Ozzy being real BUT ozzy could also be undead

Fair, but I agree, Ozzy being real sounds most plausible

08:59

I think we stick to making them kill separate people

Yeah alright

Either way, we get 2 scum dead

08:59

Katy responded in affirmative

Alright

09:00

We make mat guardian cuz im pretty sure ghost is sabotaged

09:00

The other uncontested town claimq

09:01

Actually fish could be huntress hm

09:01

Didnt say anything after ghost claimed

Yeah I feel huntress should've counter claimed a fake

09:05

We can't really account for bad play

ok i just thought of something

09:28

Ozzy was super against ddd lynch while katy was relaxed/agreed on it

09:29

man, i dunno anymore, if katy is the real one, we arent even sure if fish is scum

Told Katy to cancel

Bonny

Ozzy was super against ddd lynch while katy was relaxed/agreed on it

They had alright enough reasoning ie let's get town trusted in first

Can u tell her to kill Mato instead?

09:46

Mato was against ddd lynch

And claimed cit, which is classic scum claim

And kept insisting that he's "IA" even though hes not

Ia meaning?

*inactive

Thanks

09:47

Told Katy to target them

09:48

Best case scenario, mato is also pack and they can't kill one of their own so we out Katy. Worst case, Katy convinced mato to take the fall to get trusted, Ozzy is real assassin but the target is undead so we think Ozzy is the fake

Yeah. That would stink lmfao. We know theres an undead

09:49

My suspicion is swurtle since shes mayor but she insisted being checked

it might not be her

09:50

Let me guess, Fish is also a cit claim?

09:50

(Theres a chance hes huntress lol)

Haven't claimed yet

09:57

@Bonny they're claiming huntress

Bruh

09:58

But said they'll publicly claim FT

Isnt that too obvious

09:58

Well if he can pull that off, feel free to

09:58

Whos his target?

Idk I'll ask

Wait shouldnt it be ghost

Ghost

did he already target?

09:59

Good

Do I tell ghost we have a ctc?

Eh, nah

10:01

Keep em in the dark

10:01

I mean if hes gonna fake FT wolves dont wanna know (edited)

10:03

Well it wouldnt make any sense to claim FT if we got ddd from FT info, but hopefully wolves didnt think that

We could use fish is a strategic sacrifice

10:03

We get assassin to kill him, targeting wolf. We get a guaranteed scum kill at a cost of huntress

Ehhh idk

10:04

Eye for an eye

Just an idea

Hmmmm

10:06

If ozzy was wolf that would completely make the FT fakeclaim moot

10:06

Wait no, if either assassin

10:07

Cuz theyd ask like "why are we killing a ft claim?"

I'm telling them privately that fish is huntress

Nooo

10:07

They could be wolf remember

It's better than him publicly questioning our info

We can just ignore him idk

10:08

We dont know how good ozzy is at lying

Sorry I'd already done it

Oh boy

10:08

For what it's worth, I trust Ozzy more than kate

Yeah but im also wary at ozzy bc he could be just super good at lying

10:09

Can never be too sure

Fair, sorry, I just panicked when they started asking if actual FT was legit

10:15

Do we make a town trusted chat? Maybe adding Matt and swurtle as the only 2 journo claims?

10:15

Or do we still think swurtle is undead?

yeah, i guess....

10:16

err

10:17

still not comfortable with swurtle

10:17

man vamps make my anxiety levels off the charts

10:18

We can hold off if need be

10:19

We know 1 guaranteed undead, only 1 true death

10:19

We can afford to slow down

10:20

We can lynch DDD "tomorrow"

anyway if nobody dies ill cut off communicating with you

1

11:36

as in no wolf kill

11:37

i guess i could be undead too so ur free to make ur own chat

Turtle was firebug, turned pyro after og pyro was killed

12:10

So it looks like Ozzy is the real assassin

alright

12:10

no wolf kill huh

Yeah so Katy isn't wolf it seems?

why isnt she?

12:11

she could just say she hits demonized

Cause if she was, she'd have made pack vote for the kill, no?

Bonny

she could just say she hits demonized

Oh yeah, so we don't really know who the real assassin is

why would wolves kill an assassin target if claiming that they shot demonized is easier

✅ Removed @Pythe (They/Them) from the CC!

12:15

✅ Added @Ozzy to the CC!

hiii

12:15

ur confirmed now

12:16

im removing pythe bc im almost positive theyre undead

12:17

my god, vamp/undead game is so fucking stressful

Alright! Good to be here

so uh, as you can see above, katy is your assassin counterclaim, and pythe defended her

Wait, I haven't read anything yet but katy is 100% lying because sarvak told me to attack turtle last night n I did

12:43

N Timmy is dead as we can see

12:44

So another undead in the night!

dw timmy is pyro

12:44

im FT and checked him as pyro

Yeah, sarvak told me that

12:44

I will read everything here first to get on track of things

uh yeah sorry its a long way to go

12:46

we strategized everything

Bonny

Im gonna lie a bit and claim journo so i wont be targetted

I literally said this in my private channel that out of three journo claimers its possible one is FT

Bonny

uh yeah sorry its a long way to go

No worries! I will be soon on track!

yeah tbh i mightve made it too obvious

12:47

i might die lol

12:48

the two other journos are basically confirmed

Yup. I feel two citz would be genuine too. Rest I feel are just our scums

there arent just two cits

12:49

there were four cits, and one of them is timmy

12:49

**cit claims

12:50

ok can you help me read here, which one of these three is scum: Phantom, Lucy or Mato? (edited)

12:55

ideally we want to hit the vamp with assassin today

12:55

um actually nvm urg

12:56

howling wolf hasnt acted yet

12:58

ok which one is a better choice: 1, lynch the assassin fakeclaim in hopes theyre vamp, shoot ddd today 2. lynch ddd, shoot possible vamp, wolves will defo howl today (edited)

Bonny

there were four cits, and one of them is timmy

Did they claim to you privately? I think I was going with public claims

no, two others claimed to sarvak

Gotcha.

13:11

Also, ribbit must be lying right?

13:11

They claimed to be FT

uhhh no theyre a huntress claim that baited

13:11

to be attacked

13:11

so ghost and ribbit are against each other

You guys were aware of this?

theyre both huntress claims

13:12

yeah....

Gotcha

Bonny

ok which one is a better choice: 1, lynch the assassin fakeclaim in hopes theyre vamp, shoot ddd today 2. lynch ddd, shoot possible vamp, wolves will defo howl today (edited)

I think people would expect us to go for DDD today so better we follow 2

yeah

13:14

vamps stress me out tho ngl

I feel you!

13:16

Also, isn't this fascinating that both wolves and vampires are targeting the same player?

Well, i mean, sarvak is an obvious target. They have most info

13:17

And wolves will want a chance to prevent guardian

I mean yeah but wolves should have thought that sarvak will get demonised lol

The thing with vamps is that they have to predict who gets attacked at night

Exactly. N I'm impressed how lucky they are

I think scums dont mind teaming up with each other so they dont care

Bonny

I think scums dont mind teaming up with each other so they dont care

Yeah, I was having this feeling too

I think sarv might have cc'ed ddd and tell him that im FT or other info

Yup. We are exposed lol

And wolves can still howl pensivegayblob

Yeah one extra death plus a wrong ft result

13:19

Ouch

They already have pack tanner, howling wolf feels very unnecessary to me

I was wondering if I can play the newbie card and pretend to not know anything and get some info from sarvak going forward

(edited)

Bonny

They already have pack tanner, howling wolf feels very unnecessary to me

Yeah but they do get the extra kill if I'm right by the role description

indeed, they can even use both cries one night

Yeah

Yeah i think u can try to feed them false info to mis-direct the vamp team into demonizing someone we are not going to kill at all (edited)

13:23

Ask them what their kill suggestion is (edited)

Good idea!

but they will have 2 demonizing today so thats tricky

I asked this: We did it buddy!! Now who do you think we should go for kill next night? Did FT give you any result? Plus we yeeting DDD today, right?

13:27

Let's pretend you never added me or atleast not now

yeah thats a good idea

They replied with a woop woop and said we are going with DDD today and ignored the rest. I might ping them more in future to make it seems genuine

13:30

Quoting Pythe

Waiting on FT right now

lol

I would love to see if they give any targets saying FT checked them

Ozzy

I would love to see if they give any targets saying FT checked them

would you be okay with making yourself guardian and saying that youre a trustworthy cit claim?

14:07

you should protect yourself tonight, and you will be using all ur 3 bullets without being killed

14:07

bc u protecting yourself ensures that the bullets will be used

Bonny

would you be okay with making yourself guardian and saying that youre a trustworthy cit claim?

But will they believe me? Cuz this would mean saying something like FT confirmed me as a Cit and they have no way to verify that. This also means, my plan to get things out of sarvak will not work since they will know I'm in contact with you.

ok actually since im a journo claim ill just be the guardian and protect u

14:11

ill just say FT checked me

Yeah, that's more reasonable!

14:11

I can vouch for you if needed without being obvious

thank you

14:12

anyway if wolves have two kill tonight

Also, just a heads-up but I have only 2 kills left

lets say they have the info and will be attacking us both, and im turned undead, its far beneficial for town to use up all 3 bullets than my checks

Bonny

anyway if wolves have two kill tonight

Prolly both will be on demonised player if both are together

no, bc you will be guarded

Bonny

lets say they have the info and will be attacking us both, and im turned undead, its far beneficial for town to use up all 3 bullets than my checks

Oh yes. Just saying

guarded ppl cant be attacked thus they wont turn undead

14:14

so you will be guaranteed one more bullet

14:14

even if i wont win as undead, i think to win as a town now

Bonny

no, bc you will be guarded

Considering they do kill me. But yeah, with sarvak turned to them, I can see them attacking me and you too tbh

Bonny

even if i wont win as undead, i think to win as a town now

Sweet! But heck if my calculations are right we are prolly 5 town against 7 scum. That's tough!

uhh

Alive Players | Total: 12

- relaxedmato (@Ketch)

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit) ❤️‍

- sarvak2 (@Pythe (They/Them))

- katyhawk (@Felir)

- jeand.arch (@Bonny)

‍

- matstress (@Ester) wasted

- swurtle (@Swan)

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty)

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy) undeadga

- ddd8000 (@Delly)

- louise0091 (@Lucy) (edited)

Swurtle and sarvak are possibly undead

im talking to swurt and shes still reasonable

14:17

as in towny

Greatz

ofc theres a chance that she is undead, but thats genuinely the worst case

14:18

at the very worst case, scums have 7 votes (including swurt mayor vote)

Agreed. Plus even if she is not one then prolly someone else is

14:19

I'm thinking if I should pry on others specially those two huntress to see who is speaking the truth

worst case, they could just tie/flip the lynch vote and by then its over

Yeah, Mayor being wolf sided is going to be painful

you should but keep on mind on the cc limit

Which is 3 or 4?

14:20

I mean at this moment?

3

I already used 1 with sarvak

14:20

So I have 2 left, gotcha!

dont tell anyone u have info of knowing theyre huntress lol

14:21

pry like without mentioning that

Ofcourse. Tho gasty already publically claimed

14:21

Who was the other one? I need to recheck

maybe u can try gasty unless u already used ur cc

14:22

ribbit

Wait, I need to remove sarvak first to add others?

ribbit said he has been busy so cant argue against that

14:22

nooo

Gotcha

they can see ur message history

As in they get added to the same channel?

14:23

That's scary

if you claimed assassin in that cc with sarvak and add someone, they can see the message

14:23

okay wdym cuz i think i misunderstood smth

14:23

ok take this cc channel, i made it to contact sarvak

I mean, can I create two ccs with two separate person? Like I have one with sarvak and now I want to create one with ribbit and noone else

then i added you

14:24

so u can see from the beginning

Ozzy

I mean, can I create two ccs with two separate person? Like I have one with sarvak and now I want to create one with ribbit and noone else

oh yeah u deffo can

14:24

limit is 3 so other than sarvak u can make 2 more

Bonny

oh yeah u deffo can

That's what I was thinking of doing

14:25

Yup

remember, in the case i get lynched or the vote is flipped, kill a scum

14:29

ddd/katy are guaranteed so pick ur poison

14:29

beware of demonized tho

Sure!

Btw, was Timmy Pyromancer or the fire bug or something?

14:42

Also, does anyone except sarvak know that you are FT?

Ozzy

Also, does anyone except sarvak know that you are FT?

No

Bonny

No

N what about Timmy, were they Pyromancer or bug?

bug turned pyro

15:29

lol ddd

15:29

we know lmfao

Yeah lol

15:31

Well it seems scum are not working with vamp

15:31

Or DDD is just pretending

posssibly, its ddd

Hopefully you werent turned undead last night xD even if you were, its over for us cuz ur only town killing

16:01

Discounted huntress

Yeah, I was not turned cuz I didn't receive any message and believe me I said the same for you in my confessional so I get your paranoia lol. But yeah, I also think townies don't have much chance to win here

If I'm reading this correct then DDD being saboteur wolf can disqualify themselves from being lynched this phase, right?

No sab wolf disqualify election

What elections? Mayor or guardian ones? Or do they have abilities like RK?

All elections mayor/reporter/guardian

Oh yeah, that's what I meant and gotcha. I thought it was something regarding the lynch previously lol

Pythe didnt vote at all lol

Of course theyre gonna howl

@Ozzy Would you rather kill fish, katy or someone else? Theyre howling so i cant check reliably... unless i wanna recheck pythe for undead

23:18

Let me know if pythe told u to kill someone

actually you can kill one of the huntress claims

00:02

so their power triggers and we lynch katy tomorrow

Okay mat shows as journalist not undead, lets add her here (edited)

00:53

Nor undead

✅ Added @Ester to the CC!

Hiii

00:54

You were checked as not undead

00:54

I thought wolves used masking cry so any other check would be useless

00:55

Swurtle might be undead tho

00:58

Oh, for your question, I'm FT

Bonny

Let me know if pythe told u to kill someone

They told me to kill you. RIP. Said swurtle is tanner and you are promoting wolves

Bonny

actually you can kill one of the huntress claims

Alright. But what if I kill a townie in the process? It would have been so good for the hunter to target katy so that we could verify Huntress and kill katy as well.

?????? Swurtle cant be wolf

04:23

There are only two journo claims

I'm guessing, sarvak is making up things here

Idk them telling u to kill me convinces me theyre undead

They have turned undead

04:23

Yup

Ozzy

Alright. But what if I kill a townie in the process? It would have been so good for the hunter to target katy so that we could verify Huntress and kill katy as well.

The huntresses are targetting each other

04:23

So the real one will take out the fake one

04:24

Unless the fake one is demonized ofc

04:24

I wonder if that means sarvak is telling wolves to attack me tonight

Ooh. That's some good info. Alright I might attack Gasty then

Bonny

I wonder if that means sarvak is telling wolves to attack me tonight

Possible. But I feel if I agree to kill you then they won't do that and waste their kill on you

Which one looks fake to you? Gasty or ribbit? Gasty is quite active and tried stepping as reporter but ribbit tried to fake FT and all that

Yeah, I'm trusting Gasty more. That's why if I attack them then their target (ribbit) will die?

Well, if you shoot the fake one that would be less casualty

I hope that's how the role works lol

If u shoot the real one we have 1 town and 1 scum dead

04:27

If you shoot the fake one you get 1 scum dead, cuz scums cant have huntress power

04:27

Also, keep in mind huntress powers dont activate on lynch

04:27

But either the huntress or the target can be demonized so idk, that complicates things

Huntress [Townsfolk Killing]

Basics

The Huntress may select a player to attack with their dying breath.

Details

The Huntress may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Huntress wants. The Huntress may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Huntress dies in any way other than by directly being lynched, their target will be attacked by them. The other player is attacked immediately and if it succeeds, the Huntress’s role and the name of whoever they killed is revealed to all. If the Huntress did not target a living player, the Huntress’s role isn’t revealed.

Bonny

Well, if you shoot the fake one that would be less casualty

Lmk think about this a bit and I will let you know

Alright

04:28

I guarded you, it means town is guaranteed to have 1 more kill after tonight but i will also likely be undead

04:29

(I can still change the target ofc)

Wait, huntress too dies alongwith their target if I attack them?

Yes

04:31

But if they dont die, theyre undead

Ah. That makes things a bit off

I think ghost is more likely to be demonized than fish

04:31

Bc he claimed publicly

04:32

But fish is also a bait claim idk

04:33

Or maybe both of them are hmmm

04:33

U can also guess one of the three cits and hope for a vampire shot

04:34

Thats very risky tho

Okay, I think this is not worth it then because it will be like blindly shooting in the air because we don't know who is fake huntress and neither we will get confirmation of this when we shoot someone today. So, I feel at this point, we should just go for someone confirmed scum that is katy because we are already low in number and we can't afford to lose more numbers by accidentally killing the real huntress.

If we kill katy, we dont know who to lynch tomorrow

04:35

Thats the dilemma

Nope. We can afford to wate a vote on a wolf but my shots are limited so we can't afford to waste it on a town

Huntress cant be proven by lynching, and lynching cits seems high risk high pay

04:36

Ok, if you want to kill katy, who are we gonna lynch tomorrow?

That's a question for tomorrow and I think any of the person whose claimed clashed will be my lynch target

04:37

One out of citizen or the huntress

04:38

Infact, I will call for a mass claim tomorrow cuz I feel you will be undead tomorrow

04:39

My only concern here is if katy is demonised here

Okay, since ur at least guaranteed not undead by tomorrow, ill give you some info based on what we got

04:46

Swurtle (Swan) -Journalist (process of elimination, cant be wolf, might be undead) Mat (Ester) - Journalist (process of elimination, cant be wolf, not undead by N4) Ghost (Gasty) - Huntress (50% chance to be scum) Fish (Ribbit) - Huntress (50% chance to be scum, targetting ghost) Katyhawk (Felir) - Assassin claim (confirmed fake, might be demonized) Mato (Ketch) - Citizen (unconfirmed, either vamp or wolf or cit) Louise (Lucy) - Citizen (Unconfirmed, either scum or town) Wiz (Ozzy) - Assassin (Confirmed) Phan (Philly) - Citizen (unconfirmed, can be town or scum) Sarv (Pythe) - Undead 99% sure, formerly royal knight confirmed Arch (Bonny, Me) - FT, confirmed (edited)

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04:46

For ur personal note

You know what, I re-thought this and I think I'm fine with going ribbit since I missed the part where huntress role gets revealed if they succesfully use their action .

Bonny

Swurtle (Swan) -Journalist (process of elimination, cant be wolf, might be undead) Mat (Ester) - Journalist (process of elimination, cant be wolf, not undead by N4) Ghost (Gasty) - Huntress (50% chance to be scum) Fish (Ribbit) - Huntress (50% chance to be scum, targetting ghost) Katyhawk (Felir) - Assassin claim (confirmed fake, might be demonized) Mato (Ketch) - Citizen (unconfirmed, either vamp or wolf or cit) Louise (Lucy) - Citizen (Unconfirmed, either scum or town) Wiz (Ozzy) - Assassin (Confirmed) Phan (Philly) - Citizen (unconfirmed, can be town or scum) Sarv (Pythe) - Undead 99% sure, formerly royal knight confirmed Arch (Bonny, Me) - FT, confirmed (edited)

As for this, I already have this on my confessional lol

Oh oops

04:48

So ur basically on ur own tomorrow, both me and mat can be undead

Yeah. Hard to win ngl. Lol

Two kills and we have to guess which ones wolves hit

One more thing, I need to kill all the undead too to win as town, right?

Yup. But imo theyre ur last priority after all other killing scums/vamp is dead

04:49

Bc undeads dont have any power, just their vote. Like if ur converted into undead from assassin u wont have ur bullets anymore

04:49

If i turn undead i cant check anyone anymore

Bonny

Yup. But imo theyre ur last priority after all other killing scums/vamp is dead

If I'm being honest and I don't have confirmed scum targets then I will hella lynch all of them first to decrease their strength

So from here the scum priority be like 1. Katy 2. Either huntress claim 3. One of the cits

04:51

Priority as in by the certainty

Seconded!

Actually, Ghost said he targetted ddd during d2 but since ddd is dead i think he should choose a new target but

04:53

If ur killing ribbit it doesnt matter

04:53

Only tell him to change target to ribbit when ur killing him (in case u changed ur mind)

✅ Promoted @Ozzy!

You can add and remove people here

04:54

Feel free to kick me after phase ends lol

04:56

The command is $cc add (emoji) or $cc remove (emoji)

Okay, I think I have changed my mind. I'm going to execute this huntress plan on next night. Let the huntress fake or whatever live now. I'm killing katy today and lynching arch tomorrow. I feel decreasing the number of scums is more important at this point than hunting down a power wolf. Just keeping things simply here because I will hella regret if I kill the real huntress today

Me?

Sorry I meant sarvak

Well im not guaranteed undead yk

04:58

Hmm

Yes, I already feel not lynching anyone two days straight was our mistake.

Make sure you dont tell sarvak that or vamps will demonize katy

Obviously lol

Ozzy

Yes, I already feel not lynching anyone two days straight was our mistake.

Exactly. I wanted to kill ddd so bad back then

04:59

The night after i checked him

04:59

But ppl insisted to prove sarv first

Yeah, we were paranoid about sarvak plus I was not fully aware that townies form very low numbers here almost equal to the scum team which is something new to me lol

Oh yeah, our ratio is like 50 town 30 wolves and 20 solo/unaligned

05:00

But we have the cc / whispers to make up to that, even if limited

05:00

And the mechanically confirmable roles

I get it. But still it's hard for town to win here tho I'm guessing, I will soon get used to it...haha!

i think the big thing that takes you far is understanding the complex mechanics and how roles work, and then its smooth sailing by then

05:03

Scumreading is limited to public channels unless u cc them personally

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing like there is no scum hunting in the public which surprised me a lot lol. And yes, I think having the knowledge and understanding of how all the roles work here is definitely important to play the game. Im trying my best but still get stuck on some of the things lol (edited)

Anyway, if you choose to lynch sarv tomorrow, expect a huge opposition lol

05:09

Like "but im confirmed! Im not guaranteed undead"

05:09

If i was them id make that argument

I'm going to say that FT confirmed that

Okay thats fine

05:10

I guess them wanting me dead is a proof

Yup. I can even quote that message but ofcourse if it's allowed cuz generally such things are not allowed lol

Wait, ozzy, were you the one who made the cc?

05:12

With sarvak

05:12

Or did they make it

05:13

Bc if you owned the channel, you could freely add people in it, to see the proof of said thing

Great! Yup, I made the one

I guess u can argue that "Arch was confirmed town and Sarvak told me to attack them, i think undeads would do this so they could convert arch. Why would a town trusted attack another?" (edited)

Bonny

I guess u can argue that "Arch was confirmed town and Sarvak told me to attack them, i think undeads would do this so they could convert arch. Why would a town trusted attack another?" (edited)

I guess, good idea! Also, when you check the role of a converted undead what result do you get?

That would expose you as the assassin but also youd be on your last bullet tomorrow anyway, killing you would be useless for wolves

Ozzy

I guess, good idea! Also, when you check the role of a converted undead what result do you get?

Undead

I'm anyway planning to expose everyone tomorrow if I want to win this in anyway

Bonny

Undead

Gotcha!

Thats why I added mat, bc she was seen as journalist and not undead

Great! So swurtle has the chance to be one!

05:19

Also, wolves have 2 kills today, right?

shes been cooperative and been doing what I told her to do but u can never be too sure

05:19

But personally swurtle is least priority to me

Oh yes, I'm not gonna lynch them for now but if I lack good targets I won't mind killing them since their chances of being scum is more than me randomly hitting someone

Shes not a better target than one of the cits and the huntress imo, bc by process of elimination she is/was town (edited)

Ofcourse, I feel all these are equally good targets.

Its also possible that the real huntress is now undead

05:24

Instead of swurtle

05:24

The most confusing part bc we wont know if the huntress is real (edited)

05:25

~~tbh Vamp is very bastard role to have but the hosts told me thats a mafia term~~

Bonny

The most confusing part bc we wont know if the huntress is real (edited)

Yeah, that's part of why I'm avoiding targeting them today but yes, I do feel vampire is a bastard role and by default I feel this game is a bastard setup too lol (edited)

True, i personally think that vamps should be off-season/spinoff game but... this is on season lol

swurtle is undoubtedly a wolf

09:18

or was

No she cant

10:03

I told u shes one of the two journos

10:04

But she can be undead

10:04

Thats the issue

10:04

Bc we didnt see a death after she was elected

okay. i have her on record saying she's tanner

10:28

working together with ddd

10:29

@Bonny so

10:29

probably lynch swurtle for being undead. or a wolf if you have better picks

Ester

okay. i have her on record saying she's tanner

i dont have op

Wait, did she straight up say it?

10:31

That is bad news since shes mayor

10:31

Also if its swurtle she can be manipulated even if shes town

10:33

Are you certain 100% that swurtle said that? Making sure it isnt a second hand info

@Ester need ur answer (while im still town so i can help lol)

she did straight up say it

10:50

ddd tried to broker a deal with sarvak and was like "ok can i give you tanner in exchange for me" sarvak said "ok" then swurtle came into chat to say she's tanner

10:50

and then sarvak didn't do shit LOLLLL

10:50

@Bonny

Oh

10:52

@Ozzy if youre online consider shooting swurtle

10:52

But it might be too late

10:52

Honestly town should lynch swurtle anyway tomorrow

Ester

ddd tried to broker a deal with sarvak and was like "ok can i give you tanner in exchange for me" sarvak said "ok" then swurtle came into chat to say she's tanner

there was no one else that claimed journalist. Im FT, and you and swurtle are the only journo claims. So swurtle claimed tanner as an undead? Im so confused rn....

10:55

What are they gonna do by having an undead claim tanner while knowing that town trusted realize she was never wolf to begin with

10:56

What kind of undead 4D chess play is this lol

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 16-4-2024 10:56

Swurtle dying as undead would be detrimental cuz thats -2 votes down

10:57

And she wont resist death again

Idk what's happening now

10:59

Should I change the target? Are we convinced?

11:00

I mean sarvak did say that swurtle is tanner

Okay what if shes town and actually wasnt turned, so she was manipulated for a killing bait to join undead side But thats literally gamethrowing aaaa

^ yeah

11:02

I'm leaving things on katy here. I will think more in the next phase about swurtle.

Its possible shes tanner if theres other journo claims unaccounted for but we have everyones roles now

11:02

Okay, so i think swurtle over sarvak since mayor gives extra vote

11:02

If u need to lynch undead

^ mood!

Ester

okay. i have her on record saying she's tanner

Where? Why would swurtle admit to being a wolf with DDD to a townie unless they think they are dealing with a scum?

i have no clue

Bonny

there was no one else that claimed journalist. Im FT, and you and swurtle are the only journo claims. So swurtle claimed tanner as an undead? Im so confused rn....

so both dead ppl were pyro? neither of them journo?

11:06

did you get the info before sarvak could have turned undead

Ester

ddd tried to broker a deal with sarvak and was like "ok can i give you tanner in exchange for me" sarvak said "ok" then swurtle came into chat to say she's tanner

Why would DDD not only expose themselves but another team member as well? This is weird

this was a private chat with just sarvak and ddd at first, then he added swurtle to say she was tanner, then nothing really happened and ddd removed sarvak and swurtle, added me. asked if i could make a deal with him

11:08

dunno what he was expecting

11:08

really feckin weird

Was this on this phase? Or previous?

anyway arch might be undead now unfortunately lol

11:09

so might i ig. or you

Ester

so both dead ppl were pyro? neither of them journo?

It was the night right after sarvak used their power

What did she offer to you?

So they couldnt have been undead yet

11:10

True i could be undead but i had been laying low until today

Ozzy

What did she offer to you?

he (ddd) didn't really offer anything but the info in the chat ig?

Im not undead yet since i could check mat as journo, but ig to u guys i could be lying. But all info starting from the first post on this channel is real as we were both town. I found sarvak n1 and worked from there

Also, if sarvak found swurtle as wolf last phase then why didn't they bring that to you?

11:17

Why bring it like this phase to me when they have chances of being undead?

11:18

This all is super fishy. Ngl

11:18

Also, I find it beyond stupid for a wolf to invite a town in a chat where potentially another wolf has revealed their identity

Also i forgot one argument: There are only two undeads as there were only two nights without a wolf kill. So its either 1. I'm not undead and both swurtle and sarvak are undead Or 2. I'm undead and one of swurtle/sarvak is innocent From the way mat described, sarvak and swurtle worked together so its less likely im undead lol

11:30

If ur sure 99% that swurtle is undead u should consider shooting her. No way shes surviving that And town will still have majority for the katy lynch

Yeah, this could be why Ester was invited to the chat

11:32

Nvm. I'm very confused rn as why Ester was invited to that chat where swurtle blantantly said they are tanner.

Ester

this was a private chat with just sarvak and ddd at first, then he added swurtle to say she was tanner, then nothing really happened and ddd removed sarvak and swurtle, added me. asked if i could make a deal with him

Okay checking again but was this on Day 3 or Night 4?

day

should be yesterday

Sarvak gave this info about swurtle being tanner six minutes into Night 4

11:43

To me, I mean!

well, sarvak should have turned undead since day 3.

Yeah, that's what I'm debating as what might have been the motive of DDD to invite ester into the chat? To frame swurtle? But swurtle accepting this doesn't make sense

Bonny

no wolf kill huh

this message was posted right after day 3 (right after sarvak was supposedly attacked) so the messages before that should be reliable

11:45

i kicked them from this chat right after and added you

Yeah!

11:46

The thing is sarvak is not responding back to my questions which makes things even more difficult

Ozzy

Yeah, that's what I'm debating as what might have been the motive of DDD to invite ester into the chat? To frame swurtle? But swurtle accepting this doesn't make sense

swurtle is a gullible/loose lipped person and she does everything someone else tells her to

11:46

like genuinely

Oh. I guess, this should explain then

ddd was probably like "hey lets team up as wolves and undead, can you take our tanner role so the real one isnt exposed"

11:47

actually ddd makes sense if hes trying to gatekeep his wolf mates so they dont turn undead

11:48

if undead wants control over wolf kills, they will want a wolf member that was attacked at night by town

11:48

bc wolf pack members dont want to attack their own members

Actually everything else makes sense. Only things that doesn't is DDD inviting ester to their chat if swurtle is actually a wolf

maybe that was part of the deal and swurtle is an undead propped up as part of the wolf pack

11:50

ddd hoped that ester will buy into that and prevent his lynch

Also, if both swurtle and sarvak are undead, won't they know each other? Don't undead share a chat or something?

they do, but ddd was wolf so they dont share a chat

11:51

and swurtle and sarvak already had a cc to each other to begin with

11:52

anyway minutes before phase change ill be leaving this chat, but if i somehow still town aligned i will vote with you guys even if we dont communicate

Oh wait, vamp can undead a wolf too, right?

yes

11:52

but see, wolves dont usually attack their own members

Makes sense now

they could but why attack their own if they had power town roles to kill (edited)

11:53

so if you want a convert a wolf into undead, a town/pyro kill is needed (edited)

11:54

(bad phrasing sorry lol im not native english speaker)

11:54

i will also remind you that theres a possibility that katy is demonized wolf

11:54

but honestly, anyone can be demonized at this point, ya just predict who isnt

11:55

so if katy is wolf turned undead, vampire will have advantage by having someone in the wolf chat to oversee the night kills

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Bonny

so if katy is wolf turned undead, vampire will have advantage by having someone in the wolf chat to oversee the night kills

That makes sense

11:58

Has the night been over?

yeah thats how the role works. undeads keep their previous game channels

11:58

in 2 mins

✅ @Bonny left the CC!

Ah gonna miss you arch!!

12:02

@Ester Alright, ester, today we are going to lynch swurtle. I would say that they were found to be admitting that they are tanner and I have some info from others as well. Let's see if town agrees. If they don't I will show them my chat to sarvak. You have to vouch me on this tho. I have only one shot left and once it's shot, I might prolly expose everyone. If need be, I might even do it this phase so we can have correct lynches

so who did you attack in the end btw?

Katy as I said

yep alright

Which means another undead. I feel wolves n undead are working together afterall

they might be, but it would be really quite dumb

Yeah, like eventually they will have to fight against each other too but I definitely can see them teaming up to weed out a potential enemy team but without giving too much of each other

shall I make the announcement for the swurtle lynch?

Yeah, I think you making it will be even better so that I can safely use my last bullet without revealing but I was actually planning to talk swurtle once before doing that. I created a channel and realised I didn't add swurtle to it but rather named it as swurtle. Pinged the hosts to add them but no response so far

"$cc add swurtle"

12:41

@Ozzy

Ester

"$cc add swurtle"

Thanks! Hosts responded too!

"so yeah @Bunny Rabbit today we'll be lynching swurtle. we have reason to believe she turned undead a bit ago, so I think it's in all our best interests to get rid of her"

12:43

is that ok

Ester

"so yeah @Bunny Rabbit today we'll be lynching swurtle. we have reason to believe she turned undead a bit ago, so I think it's in all our best interests to get rid of her"

Looks fine to me. Though I'm hoping to interact with swurtle a bit

sending mine then

I had a short conversation with swan and they said they faked to be a wolf to get more info like delly promised them to help get them and undead if they claim tanner. So we are lynching sarvak this phase

hm.

Ester

sending mine then

No. We are going for sarvak. I think swan's explanation makes sense

auuuugh i don't know

We are getting spicy

N honestly I was surprised in how fast swan was in pinging everyone to lynch sarvak. That being said I'm talking with sarvak too now to see who is lying here

14:53

After then, you can do a final announcement

it could just be both

True. In that case, we are in a win win situation as whoever goes lol

14:58

No, DDD was the sabo we lynched. I thought Jean had been lying to me and was wolf, since swurtle, the now confirmed tanner, was vouching for them.

Sarvak reasoning for asking me to kill FT. Wow, the one who basically confirmed you was a wolf just because a tanner was supporting them. I feel sarvak is our best kill for today

@Ester can you stand up for reporter tomorrow? I feel you are the only one I somewhat trust so better you get it and I can get governor.

I'll try

how do we feel

I have some info. I atleast have one name of confirmed undead but not sure if we should lynch them or not. Thoughts? (edited)

We might want to be rid of others first, since undead are viable for safe night kills @Ozzy

Ester

We might want to be rid of others first, since undead are viable for safe night kills @Ozzy

Yeah, problem is now we have to rely purely on social deduction cuz my bullets have been used and FT might have been turned into undead. Tbh, I'm very tempted to lynch Philly because they are giving lots of vampire vibes to me but I don't really have any evidence so

Alive Players | Total: 9

- relaxedmato (@Ketch)

- mrrfiish (@Ribbit)

- jeand.arch (@Bonny)

‍

- matstress (@Ester) wasted

- swurtle (@Swan)

️ - phantomtomic (@Philly)

- gh0st_5had0w (@Gasty)

- wizkvothe (@Ozzy)

- louise0091 (@Lucy) (edited)

it could just be lucy too

16:23

wait who tf is mrrfish

16:24

oh right

16:24

either way. yeah. feels like either phantom or mato

16:24

though mato seems kinda town

16:25

(the command i used to show the list is $alive btw)

16:25

anyway, my plane is leaving sorta soon, so

Do you know both ribbit and gasty claimed huntress?

16:26

One of them is obviously lying. N I tried to find who is but unfortunately I don't think I got enough info cuz my target was demonised!

imma ask ribbit what their target is

I had asked both of them to target each other like we earlier planned on this chat

oh yeah

16:27

i mean, can't hurt to see if it's consistent

Yeah, I'm asking some questions to both of them. Ribbit has not responded yet

ohnoo not at the same timeee

Ester

ohnoo not at the same timeee

Gasty in a separate channel!

no i mean you and me asking

Ozzy

Gasty in a separate channel!

though you'd be surprised at the times this has happened

Ester

no i mean you and me asking

You mean, you wanted to ask that question to them too and see if they tell the correct targets to both of us?

yes

Ester

yes

Sure. Feel free to then and lmk

16:42

Ester, how do you remove someone from a chat?

16:43

cc I mean!

16:43

@Ester

mate you knew i was flying

17:59

@Ozzy still want?

Ester

@Ozzy still want?

Not really but would love to know for future references. N wait you were flying? I didn't know!

"$cc remove NAME" iirc

Ester

"$cc remove NAME" iirc

Thanks

Ester, I'm voting phily today cuz the people I'm in contact with are kinda doing the same, I guess. Plus we need to resolve the fake cit claim so...

will this really resolve it though

Not really. But we don't have any option

19:29

I have to sleep now

19:29

That's why I said this here. Feel free to change it if something important gets revealed

Ester, ask for being reporter and I might vouch you on that ofcourse I'm running under the assumption that you are not undead yet lol

12:27

As for lynch, FT found that ribbit is a wolf and I feel ft has not been converted yet or atleast not was until the last night since they said they protected themselves previous night but eh I would rather trust her at this moment since we don't have any potential leads anyway and I was already sus of ribbit due to the huntress bussiness!

12:28

Let's not go for no lynch today!

I guess I'll take reporter, sure

13:12

surely wolves have a lot of undead to target by now

13:13

@Ozzy could you announce it then?

13:14

do a @ Bunny Rabbit ping

Ah, bonnie already did lol

ayyy fish was pack tanner

I'm glad lol

02:18

Btw, what were the og roles of other dead persons? (edited)

@Ester can you pls answer the above question? Sorry for pinging you but I wanted you to answer this before night ends incase you get undead if you are not already!

09:08

Specially what was dummy's role?

I was sleeping

12:19

@Ozzy dummos role was pyro, i suppose sarvak wasn't lying about them being dead

12:20

turtle was firebug

Ester

@Ozzy dummos role was pyro, i suppose sarvak wasn't lying about them being dead

And the rest? Katy?

12:20

Gotcha

12:20

Timmy?

turtle is timmy i think yeah

Yup

12:23

What were katy n turtle?

sorry my dad keeps talking at me

No worries

...i just told you turtle

Oh wait sorry didn't see lol

12:24

Katy?

12:25

Was sarvak RK and delly saboteur wolf?

sarvak was indd rk, it would be impossible for them not to be anyway

12:26

katy was vamp

12:26

using nicknames and names interchangeably is hurting my brain

Wth, vamp is dead?

Lmao

ok but yes ddd was sabo

Cool

that's what it says anyway

Alright phily is 3rd wolf then

12:28

From FT checks, we know Mato and Lucy are cits

12:28

So, phily is 3rd wolf

12:28

But, wait, does that mean, wolves are messing up the kill?

12:29

It's so odd.

12:29

Anyways, we lynching Philly today. The simplest scenerio

At least if we get the last wolf they can't turn anyone else

Vamps are dead, no? They can't anyway

you should announce it?

I would

oh is that how it works??

Idk. Unless another undead takes the role of vamp

I don't think it's either of those things

Vampire [Solo Power - Underworld Team]

Basics

The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is killed in the night, they will instead turn into an undead.

Details

Each night, the Vampire may demonize one player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The player will not know they have been demonised. Vampires cannot demonize themselves or other members of the underworld. When a demonized player is killed in the night, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability. If there are several Vampires, they work together. If no members of the underworld channel remain, all demonized players are no longer demonized.

doesn't say anything about disbanding

Either way, let's lynch Philly today

12:34

Yeah

agree let's get dem wolfies

I will announce it for now!

Ester, what was phily's role?

@Ester phily's role pls?

okay I'm embarrassed i didn't see this earlier, I'm sorry

12:41

busy night