Werewolves Revamped - kelp-stans

Werewolves Revamped

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@Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk @Serene Cosmic Painter

i'm interested in your "hunch" that invi is wolf

15:37

my wifi is super dodgy rn sorry

15:37

what makes you read them like that?

If wolves were confident that they'd get the heir they'd kill swurtle

15:38

And invinci was the obvious heir

makes a lot of sense

15:38

but katy did also claim quite early in the night, no?

Yeah but I'm pretty sure they went with invinci anyways

really?

Yeah cuz they were already in discussions for several hours before katy claimed

hmm true

15:40

but she didnt end up choosing an heir

Yeah, probably for the best

15:40

Though it was probably an accident lol

i asked you this bc i read invi similarly

15:41

i do have to go now but wanted to check in - i'll be back soon

Awesome, see you soon

alright im back

16:28

if you don't get ctc'd then I'll claim tonight

ftr i also feel very strongly that huck is scum

17:01

but maybe he's just doing some amazing insane level town pr strats

I'll keep that in mind

my justification is that especially yesterday he was disrupting strategy and conversation quite a lot

17:10

with pretty inane/basic things too, stuff he could have found in role descriptions

17:10

came across super scummy to me

Yeah I could see that, good insight

why thank you

@Serene Cosmic Painter i'm detective - i wanted to try win without siding with a team, but i'm pretty sure it's impossible

22:20

i'd have to try make my way into the trusted chat, and then if you found me out i'd just die

Oh nice

22:20

Do u have any info

yes

22:21

but i'm going to withhold my info, because i want to do this on an exchange basis

22:21

not like invi did

I have a dog who claims rival and a cat who claims fortune teller

22:21

If that helps

that does help

22:22

anyway, the idea is you'll give me peoples' claims, and in return i'll give you the info i've gotten and will get

Yeah that sounds good

i already know a scum, and i think i know another scum too

Though the problem is I don't know if Ur going to go to the wolf team lol

if you give me the claims and rep info i have no reason to

Ok yeah will do

22:23

I probably won't live but I'll ask my successors to do it

yeah

22:23

i mean i'd like to know the CL ideally so that i can a) put that on my list b) continue in contact

22:24

you're def CA?

I'll wait for more claims in case there's a second Detective claim

22:24

But if Ur the only ome

oh fair

I'll share info

but yeah i can almost certainly prove myself as det bc of my info

What scum do you know of?

22:24

I'd like to lynch them if possible

22:25

I assume one of the assistants

the scum i have might be devil

22:25

and we'd want to keep devil around

22:25

i think they're wolf but remember we can get two lynches tomorrow anyway

22:26

and you have your cult kill

Did you do a check today already

yes

22:26

it gave me some somewhat useful info

22:26

if i'm right about my reads

Detective is kinda crazy strong ngl

it's crazy good for town, but impossible to win on its "own" (i.e without siding)

You should be fine in the case of rival because wolves have no wi aside from baroness

mhm

By fine I mean low risk of getting killed

22:28

And baroness can't find you if a different invest never checks u

yes

22:28

but if warlock, bad

Yeah I guess we can figure that out by checking the dog

22:29

Which I'll let you know tonight if u can prove urself or if Ur the only Detective claim

ok it turns out u are not the only det claim

oh shit really?

yeah

lol

so id need some proof if im to share info

okay so invi is scum

00:16

i checked invi as assistant D0 ->

00:16

my "proof" of this is my hints to you earlier

yeah i did guess that u checked him (edited)

however they're also not scared wolf

well that sucks, i cant kill him

no, they're NOT scared wolf

00:18

i was thinking of checking them for corrupt wolf

00:18

alpha said this https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1198949239326265344/1199346597583138816 which made me think that if invi is cw, alpha might be scum too

00:19

he said specifically about cw targeting themselves, not "any wolf"

00:19

struck me as weird

what does det do at night? checks a list right

yes

00:21

it's probably obvious who i checked, and both were correct

i need to wait to see if a howling wolf cried before i ask anything

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

i was thinking of checking them for corrupt wolf

i initially thought they might be recluse baiting a wolf target, but that just seemed.... odd, idk

00:22

fair

it looks like no crying happened

indeed

ok so the one claiming rival dog is nick

00:22

would u be able ot check that

yeah

00:22

bc it's a list i can check multiple

that gives us info on 2 people

and i also insist on checking multiple bc that gives me more info

yeah fair

00:23

i just hve 2 dets so idk how much info i should share

00:23

i need to sort them out

i understand that

00:23

but i need to keep myself in a position here where i'm not just following your orders

ok fair, thats one item on ur list

00:24

is there anything else u know?

00:24

i can do 1 for 1 trades

i know katy is real

00:24

and i've already told you i sus alpha and huck

hmm ok so ill give u 1 more piece of info

00:25

sunny was wager checked by swurtle last night as assistant

00:25

so hes probably real

okay

00:26

i'm going to submit nick dog, invi corrupt wolf, sunny assistant

wait is it original roles

yes

oh so the dog thing is not something i can distinguish

my day check is current, my night submit is original

00:27

see if you can catch the fake det out with that

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

i'm going to submit nick dog, invi corrupt wolf, sunny assistant

3/4 correct (i added your CA claim in bc why not)

00:33

nick's almost def correct, you are very likely correct, so it's probably invi who's wrong (but could be sunny)

00:34

if sunny is hell team they could very well be disguised (edited)

oh yeah thats very possible

there you go

00:35

i'm so helpful

thanks

you could at least TRY to sound grateful

00:36

"thank" <- this man has NO appreciation for my efforts

00:36

i could have cc'd invi you know

00:36

worked with wolves

00:36

but here i am

sorry im multitasking

00:37

but yes, im very thankful

00:37

thanks for siding with town

you're WELCOME

ill try to repay your work

thank you

00:37

i appreciate that

ok so im pretty sure the other detective claim is actually psychopath

makes sense probably

cuz rival saw them as detective, but with a disguise

Rival [Unaligned Investigative]

Limited & Transformation Role

Basics

The Rival can only win when there are no other Rivals left in the game. Every night after Night 1, the Rival can investigate a player. They will learn both their role and whether the investigation was affected by another power.

Details

The Rival can only exist with another rival in the game. The Rival ascends when all other Rivals have died. Every night after Night 1, the Rival can investigate a player and will learn their role. The Rival is affected by weak disguises and redirections. They are told specifically if an investigation was affected by a disguise, an obstruction, or a redirection - if it was unaffected, they are informed of this too. If the win condition of the Rival changes in any way, they do not require the other Rival to die. If the win condition or role of another Rival changes in any way, the Rival still requires any other (original) Rivals to die. The Rival is nonaligned.

could be PT'd or hell

01:55

but it would be easier for psycho to fake det than a wolf or hell (edited)

yeah but the other 2 possibilties wouldnt be able to investigate

yeah

01:55

ngl i was gonna try fake medium to you

01:56

i think i couldve pulled it off

theres so manyt medium claims

wait lol really

01:56

im so glad i didnt then

theres 3 rn but i only have about 2/3 of the claims so far

Serene Cosmic Painter

theres so manyt medium claims

1. real medium 2. a wolf 3. a hell team member? 4. baroness?

01:58

me: im not gonna help luffy too much my irresistable urge to gamesolve:

also i saw hosts sneakily edited the story time

02:00

that there was a crying

HUH

02:01

@Host if you edit story time you need to ping again for the edit

02:01

basic hosting fact

Ooop

02:02

right

i mean come on, that one is obvious

I was in the process then got distracted by something

fair

i mean even now

02:02

invinci still doesnt have mayor role

oh

LOL

02:03

LMAO, EVEN

02:03

this is technically sort of my fault tbf

02:04

i committed to the bit too hard and broke the bot

Technically Ts forgot the modrole command when he fixed every other command to prevent this happening

Serene Cosmic Painter

cuz rival saw them as detective, but with a disguise

can't be disguising cry, right?

02:05

if that's true

yeah

02:05

why double kill if invinci is wolf

02:05

theyre not gonna kill him right

found a pr?

how could they

Serene Cosmic Painter

theyre not gonna kill him right

i mean, if he's recluse, or hell, i guess maybe?

they have no warlock

or your rival is actually a warlock

no the fortune teller changed claims into rival

02:06

so i think theyre both rivals

oh

02:06

okay makes sense

02:06

neither of them should have claimed rival to you btw thats stupid, they shouldve both claimed ft

02:07

i guess we'll see who dies, but this is a weird choice, you're right

02:09

also invi obviously isnt actually protting you

yeah

unless they're recluse

invinci doesnt have the wager

oh

02:10

why did he claim to have it then

he wanted to do a bait

02:10

also i think i figured out who hell team is

wait seriously

02:10

im impressed if so

two people claimed together to me in a cc

02:10

instead of alone

02:10

and they dont even know each other really

02:11

and theyre both quite sus

luffy you may as well just tell me who

02:11

hell team is the one team i absolutely cannot side with

raven and sarv

02:11

im attacking them

i mean, i'd like to say that neither of them are stupid enough to do that

02:12

it does seem like a play so dumb even swurtle wouldnt think of it

02:12

(sorry swurtle, i love you)

02:12

did one of them claim fletcher and the other customer?

no

bc that would make sense to claim together

medium and coroner

oh

02:13

thats fucking weird

yeah

02:13

i dont know why they would do that

i mean maybe, if raven is medium, he happened to ask if sarv was town N1, and it happened to be correct?

02:14

i can imagine raven doing that

02:14

one time as FT he just claimed to everyone he checked even though there was tanner

no raven just asked if one of the gms was wolfish

maybe ask them why they claimed together?

yeah one sec they told me

02:15

sorry i have a crap ton of ccs

i can imagine

with very similar names

(literally, i can imagine, i've been the same)

02:15

me when everyone ccs me with "hello" or "

"

the reason is because "of a catch up"

02:15

i guess they know each other from elsewhere maybe

02:15

not sure

hang on ill rename this cc for your convenience

✅ Renamed channel to kelp-stans!

ok so heres some good info for u

02:16

i had devil wager guy check raven

02:16

hes corrupt wolf

yoooooo

im killing him

get his ASS

but its another name for ur list at least

it is, i appreciate that

02:16

can i ask who cat is btw

uh i dont think i should reveal that now that i know theyre both rivals

02:17

gives u lots of leverage over them

fair enough

02:17

i didnt think of it like that

i mean youll find out eventually if u keep helping

^-^

ill surely die but ive passed on instructions

sick

02:18

can i have a contact or something

02:18

id prefer to add them to this cc rather than have to have a whole new cc

yeah i have everyones claim except ace

02:19

and only 1 person claimed child

02:19

so i think they should be next reporter

02:19

it was the guy who got cupid scammed

LMAO

02:21

if sawauh is wolf maybe they're killing him too??

yeah maybe

02:22

i got either fletcher or child

02:22

one will survive

also if raven is actually CW (and i dont see any reason for him not to be), then we know sunny is assistant

02:23

unless your wager guy is lying to you

02:23

do you think that's likely?

wage guy is the other coroner claim

02:23

against sarv

hmm

02:23

i guess that does point to him telling the truth

Syntax error. Invalid Player: mato!

14:57

Command error. No valid players, that are not part of this CC already, were provided!

14:57

✅ Added @Calm Interdimensional Being to the CC!

Hm this basically confirms some of my suspicions, Sarah is scum

you think so?

14:59

i mean i thought the cupid scam was a joke but maybe not

Nah, I'm pretty sure Vera and Sarah are both scum

then who's the third assistant if it's not invi?

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