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🕵 S11g4 Secret Channels #2 / recluse
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 12:16
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Recluse [Werewolf Miscellaneous]
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The Recluse is immediately notified of all powers used on them. When a member of the werewolf team uses a power on them, they are given that werewolf's identity.
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The Recluse is told which role targeted them and what power was used on them, but not the identity of the player that used a power on them. An exception are members of the werewolf team - when they use a power on the Recluse, the Recluse is told the identity of that player as well. The Recluse is not a lycan and is not part of the wolfpack. Should a wolfish player attempt to attack the Recluse, the attack fails.
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 12:18
I smelly therefore I wolf
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 14:24
.herlad
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 14:24
❗ Could not find role herlad. Did you mean herald?
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 14:24
her lad
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 14:26
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Baroness [Werewolf Power]
Limited Role
Basics
The Baroness can learn the information received by other players.
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During the day, the Baroness may either select an investigative role or another information-receiving role (see $i baroness roles). For the next two phases, when any player with the targeted role uses an ability, the Baroness will learn all information the player receives. If no player with the selected role is alive, the Baroness receives no information. Selecting a role is an end day ability. The Baroness uses their ability on players with the targeted role, not the players who are investigated. The Baroness cannot select the same role during consecutive days. The Baroness is not a lycan, nor are they a member of the wolfpack.
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 14:26
.baroness roles
14:28
So I can only be found by cw and pt
14:34
Wait
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Why is there packtanner
14:34
There is no ti lol
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Ig against Psychopath mayb
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and devil
14:34
Which is an interesting choice
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Means town must rely more on those to gain info
14:34
which I like
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 14:48
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Cat [Unaligned Align]
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During Night 1, the Cat will become the counter-role to that which the dog has chosen.
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If the dog chooses fortune teller, the Cat will turn into warlock, and vice versa. The dog choosing rival will turn the Cat into an opposing rival. If the dog changed role before choosing a role, the Cat will become fortune teller at the end of night 1. Changing role is an immediate consequence of the dog choosing. A Cat which becomes a fortune teller or a warlock may not use that role's investigation during Night 1. For each Cat in the game, there must be a corresponding dog. Neither player will know their counterpart. The Cat is strongly disguised as Cat: this will persist despite any role changes. The Cat is nonaligned until it changes role.
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 14:49
hmm although too risky, maybe
14:49
may sow doubt on dog claim
14:49
oh wait cat can become ti
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Forgot that was changed
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 14:50
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Dog [Unaligned Align]
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During Night 1, the Dog must choose to immediately become either a fortune teller, a warlock, or a specific unaligned role.
Details
Choosing a role is an immediate ability. If the Dog hasn’t chosen a role before the night ends, they will become a Fortune Teller. If there is a cat corresponding to the Dog, the unaligned role the Dog may become is rival - otherwise, it is psychopath. A Dog which becomes a fortune teller or a warlock may not use that role's investigation during Night 1. The Dog is strongly disguised as Dog: this persists despite role changes. The Dog is nonaligned until it changes role.
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 21:39
.royal
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 21:39
❗ Could not find role royal. Did you mean rival?
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:10
Plan:
  • I claim Assistant and try to get knighted
  • If Swurtle is Werewolf I will know
  • If she is not then maybe? I can expose her
22:11
If Wolves aren't dumb, they should check me before killing me, hopefully
22:11
But that is only for the case if I get monarch
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But tbf then mayor is the bigger threat
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But wolves might kill Swurtle anyway if she is town, so it might not be a good idea to call her out
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On the other hand if I call her out, then people will not claim to her, which definitly would be good
22:12
Maybe even worth the risk
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But I will only claim assistant right after phasechange
22:13
Seems more legit and I can say I wanted to prevent a devil snipe or anything of the kind
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Yeah maybe it is better to cc swurtle now to get a headstart in trust, otherwise she might knight straight after phasechange
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Although no,
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The plan has one big flaw
22:17
Who do I redirect to
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 22-01-2024 22:18
⛔ Syntax error. Unknown command assistant!
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❗ Could not find role assastant. Did you mean assistant?
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Assistant [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]
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The Assistant may select a player to redirect one werewolf action to. The action cannot be an attack.
Details
The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. The Assistant may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Assistant is affected by a wolfish player's power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolfish player being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:19
@Host Can an assistant redirect to themselves?
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Blorg Smorgalorg 22-01-2024 22:20
unsure
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:20
Tbf looking at the wording, it should be possible
22:20
I will have you discuss it then o7
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Telapathic Space Squid
@Host Can an assistant redirect to themselves?
Blorg Smorgalorg 22-01-2024 22:24
answer is no
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:24
:((((
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Well that kicks my whole strategy into the bucket
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I can only hope that wolves know what they are doing and that they prevent tt forming
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If I cant
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Blorg Smorgalorg 22-01-2024 22:40
@Contestant actually yes they can apparently
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:41
yayyyy
22:42
Honestly probably still best to wait for phasechange in case they decide to vote for someone else
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Or maybe shortly before
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Blorg Smorgalorg 22-01-2024 22:43
nvm again
22:43
it's in an ultra specific place
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they can't
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Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:46
:(((
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I guess not then
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Blorg Smorgalorg
it's in an ultra specific place
Telapathic Space Squid 22-01-2024 22:47
Yeah I believe that xD
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 23-01-2024 14:02
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Monarch [Extra Elected]
Limited Role
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The Monarch is elected during Day 0. They may knight a player each night, temporarily granting them an extra vote and negating a vote against them.
Details (1/2)
The Monarch can only be elected once, usually this is during Day 0, but if no Monarch is elected the election will reoccur until a Monarch is elected. After a Monarch is elected, there will not be any further Monarch elections for the remainder of the game. However, if the Monarch dies, the role is passed on to their heir. The Monarch may select a player as their heir; they can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Monarch wants. Neither the knighted player nor the heir are aware of being selected by the Monarch. The knighted player's vote appears normally on votes: however, an additional vote is counted internally, and the total vote count in the vote results will be correct. Similarly, the vote against the knight that has been negated is still shown in the vote results and the total vote count is decreased by one. After the end of the day, the knighted player is no longer knighted.
Details (2/2)
When the heir becomes the new Monarch, they are not revealed. If the Monarch dies without a living heir, the role is lost. Knighting a player and picking an heir are immediate abilities. The Monarch may not select themselves as knight or heir.
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:05
(Honestly I feel monarch is really convoluted. I feel like it should be streamlined a lot more. Too many subroles and stuff.)
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(Best to converge knight and heir into one, makes knighting more siginificant and makes it less complex)
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Lets see if I can spread chaos
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Telapathic Space Squid
(Best to converge knight and heir into one, makes knighting more siginificant and makes it less complex)
Blorg Smorgalorg 23-01-2024 14:14
that was a suggestion
14:14
but monarch can't be knighted and that would cause monarch to be knighted
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Telapathic Space Squid
(Honestly I feel monarch is really convoluted. I feel like it should be streamlined a lot more. Too many subroles and stuff.)
(Yes, it is)
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:14
Well they could be de-knighted
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https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1198949217599770715/1199313136931573760 Also in case you didn't see, there was this rule change, just fyi
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:16
I thought that was how it was working already tbh 😅
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Cuz technically that's how it works if we go off the description
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:17
Yeah 😅
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Garun Dar
Cuz technically that's how it works if we go off the description
Blorg Smorgalorg 23-01-2024 14:19
it's not
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you just misread it
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stop spreading misinformation
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It's an extra-elected role and extra-elected roles are displayed
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:20
What about that line though However, if the Monarch dies, the role is passed on to their heir.?
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Garun Dar
It's an extra-elected role and extra-elected roles are displayed
Blorg Smorgalorg 23-01-2024 14:20
that's not said anywhere
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Exactly
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Telapathic Space Squid
What about that line though However, if the Monarch dies, the role is passed on to their heir.?
Blorg Smorgalorg 23-01-2024 14:21
When the heir becomes the new Monarch, they are not revealed.
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But that's what we do for Mayor, reporter and guardian
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:21
Thank you, this made the role even more convoluted 🙏
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(Not criticism to you, just the role of course) (edited)
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No wonder I can't wrap my head around it 😅
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It's one of the first times we test it officially so it's understandable
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 14:58
Lol caught myself almost giving advice to use medium
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I am too immersed in the town gameplay
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 15:14
Ok I am not gonna say Jay said it, in case Jay is scum and intentionally chose Tank to get killed by wolves
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 15:55
Ok I had a cool plan, but this kinda throws a wrench into it
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Telapathic Space Squid 23-01-2024 17:02
Interesting
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The vote was tied for a little
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But tbf with Knight, it doesn't make much sense to try to tie
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 04:49
Bruh why is hell helping town so much
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This will just bite them in the butt later
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Although kinda sus for tank to use protect, but it is probably valid here
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(Also you can see I am tired because I nearly wrote ‘protection’ instead of protect lol)
04:51
Wouldve been funnier though
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 04:52
⏺️ Randomizing out of: 🏹, 🕯️, 🧋, babagun, 🎨, 🐓, 🐺, 🦎, ❤️‍🔥, 🐱, 👁️, 🖕, 🐙, 💉, 🍅, 🧻, 🐵, 🥖, 💀, 👁🗨, 🛠️, 🥸, 🍆
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▶️ Selected @Phantom of Light Yang (🕯️) (edited)
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 04:53
Bruh why does the search function suck so much on the phone
04:54
Does it honestly want to tell me no one ever said the word Katy???
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I am not sure if phantom was the other assistant claim, because discord mobile sucks, so imma roll again
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 04:56
⏺️ Randomizing out of: 🏹, 🕯️, 🧋, babagun, 🎨, 🐓, 🐺, 🦎, ❤️‍🔥, 🐱, 👁️, 🖕, 🐙, 💉, 🍅, 🧻, 🐵, 🥖, 💀, 👁🗨, 🛠️, 🥸, 🍆
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▶️ Selected @Felinus the 3rd (🐱) (edited)
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 04:56
Bruh someone not claimed please
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 04:56
⏺️ Randomizing out of: 🏹, 🕯️, 🧋, babagun, 🎨, 🐓, 🐺, 🦎, ❤️‍🔥, 🐱, 👁️, 🖕, 🐙, 💉, 🍅, 🧻, 🐵, 🥖, 💀, 👁🗨, 🛠️, 🥸, 🍆
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▶️ Selected @Arham (🐵) (edited)
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 04:57
Better
04:57
Can even say I kept it because he was aus
04:57
Sus
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 04:58
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Huntress [Townsfolk Killing]
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The Huntress may select a player to attack with their dying breath.
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The Huntress may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Huntress wants. The Huntress may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Huntress dies in any way other than by directly being lynched, their target will be attacked by them. The other player is attacked immediately and if it succeeds, the Huntress’s role and the name of whoever they killed is revealed to all. If the Huntress did not target a living player, the Huntress’s role isn’t revealed.
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✅ Created #octopus-petting-zoo!
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 05:13
Sleepy sleppy leep sleep fake messaging host
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Blorg Smorgalorg 24-01-2024 13:52
@Contestant the detective investigated you
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Blorg Smorgalorg 24-01-2024 14:59
@Contestant an assistant targeted you
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 15:46
Oh strange
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Why are they lying?
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Unless I was tanned
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But I would know that
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Strange
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I am very confused
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I need to ponder over that
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Before I play any cc trickery with Sarvak
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Cause it might be just, Idk if there is a similiar idiom in English, but in German you would say "Jemand anderen ans Messer liefern" ("To send someone else to the knife")
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All I know is that Sarvak and Arham are not in the same team
15:52
But Arham is not lynching me for some reason
15:52
But assistant did target me
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And Idk what I should think of that
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Technically it is good for me
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But it might mean they are sus of me
15:53
Maybe detective only just gave them the info from last night and the detective message is not related to me
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But if town knows I am recluse, there is no reason to target me
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It would actually be against town interests to target me
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Very strange
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I'll take an hour or so, maybe more
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In hindsight maybe I should've tried to go for monarch d0
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In hindsight I realise that mightve been a good idea
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since wolves don't kill me
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But thats the other issue I have with monarch election. I didn't have my head in the game yet to come up with a good plan
15:57
In the future I guess I need to try to scheme before the game even started
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 15:57
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Dog [Unaligned Align]
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During Night 1, the Dog must choose to immediately become either a fortune teller, a warlock, or a specific unaligned role.
Details
Choosing a role is an immediate ability. If the Dog hasn’t chosen a role before the night ends, they will become a Fortune Teller. If there is a cat corresponding to the Dog, the unaligned role the Dog may become is rival - otherwise, it is psychopath. A Dog which becomes a fortune teller or a warlock may not use that role's investigation during Night 1. The Dog is strongly disguised as Dog: this persists despite role changes. The Dog is nonaligned until it changes role.
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 16:01
Maybe they are trying to bait baroness with false info
16:02
Although baroness might not have targeted detective
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 16:02
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Baroness [Werewolf Power]
Limited Role
Basics
The Baroness can learn the information received by other players.
Details
During the day, the Baroness may either select an investigative role or another information-receiving role (see $i baroness roles). For the next two phases, when any player with the targeted role uses an ability, the Baroness will learn all information the player receives. If no player with the selected role is alive, the Baroness receives no information. Selecting a role is an end day ability. The Baroness uses their ability on players with the targeted role, not the players who are investigated. The Baroness cannot select the same role during consecutive days. The Baroness is not a lycan, nor are they a member of the wolfpack.
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 16:02
But no
16:03
Baroness would be told that I was the one being investigated
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@Contestant a huntress targeted you
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 20:32
hmm this is not good
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Great Philosopher Aptenodyte 24-01-2024 20:47
on a scale of 1 - 10 how would you rank that
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Great Philosopher Aptenodyte
on a scale of 1 - 10 how would you rank that
Blorg Smorgalorg 24-01-2024 20:49
Eleventy one
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 20:56
9+12i
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Blorg Smorgalorg 24-01-2024 20:57
e^πi
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 24-01-2024 22:19
✅ Created #coral-reef!
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Telapathic Space Squid 24-01-2024 22:35
.$cc create mind-games
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Before I forget
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Anyway I am 80% sure ts is huntress
22:35
That would fit with Luffy making me target him
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Probably Town: Ts, Katy, tank, Luffy(?), Swurtle, derp, sawauh,
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Ts huntress
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Sawauh?
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 03:39
✅ Created #war-room!
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 10:34
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Baroness [Werewolf Power]
Limited Role
Basics
The Baroness can learn the information received by other players.
Details
During the day, the Baroness may either select an investigative role or another information-receiving role (see $i baroness roles). For the next two phases, when any player with the targeted role uses an ability, the Baroness will learn all information the player receives. If no player with the selected role is alive, the Baroness receives no information. Selecting a role is an end day ability. The Baroness uses their ability on players with the targeted role, not the players who are investigated. The Baroness cannot select the same role during consecutive days. The Baroness is not a lycan, nor are they a member of the wolfpack.
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Detective [Unaligned Investigative]
Limited Role
Basics
During the day, the Detective compiles information on other players. At night, they try to solve the mystery by guessing the contents of the role list. If their guess is correct, the Detective wins.
Details
Each day, the Detective has to choose between guessing one player's current role or learning the final role of a dead player. If they guess a player's current role correctly, it is confirmed. The Detective is not affected by any disguises, obstructions, or redirections. Each night, the Detective must try to submit the contents (players and their roles) of the entire starting role configuration in their secret channel. If their guess is correct, they ascend and win the game. If their guess is wrong, they are informed how many guesses (but not which ones) were correct. The Detective may submit a partial configuration, but only a complete configuration can let them ascend. In games with a partial or private role list, the Detective may receive a role list similar to that of the knowledgeable wolf at the start of the game.
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 11:25
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Mayor [Extra Elected]
Basics
The Mayor can post in #story_time. When there are 15 or less living players, the Mayor receives an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, each night the Mayor instead chooses whether a second lynch will take place during the next day.
Details
The Mayor's extra vote cannot be nullified, stolen, or removed under any circumstances. If the Mayor would normally have a negative vote, the extra vote becomes a negative vote too. The Mayor may choose to resign at any point during a phase, but will only lose the role at the end of the phase. Choosing a double lynch is an immediate action. If the number of living players becomes 15 or less, the Mayor immediately gains the extra vote and loses the ability to choose whether there is an additional lynch. If this happens after they have chosen to have an additional lynch, but before the lynch poll occurs, the additional poll will still be created. The Mayor gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Mayors.
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Telapathic Space Squid 25-01-2024 11:34
Hmm shouldn't sent that last sentence, can't give demon bad ideas
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 11:46
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Pack Tanner [Werewolf Power]
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Each day, the Pack Tanner may disguise one player as a role of the Pack Tanner’s choosing.
Details
Each day, the Pack Tanner can weakly disguise one player; the night after, to roles affected by weak disguises, their role will appear to be what the Pack Tanner has disguised the player as. The Pack Tanner may disguise themself, but they may not disguise the same player twice in a row. Disguising a player is an immediate effect. If the Pack Tanner dies, the assigned player will keep their disguise for the night. The player loses their disguise at the end of the night. The Pack Tanner is not a lycan, but is part of the wolfpack.
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 15:02
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Huntress [Townsfolk Killing]
Basics
The Huntress may select a player to attack with their dying breath.
Details
The Huntress may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Huntress wants. The Huntress may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Huntress dies in any way other than by directly being lynched, their target will be attacked by them. The other player is attacked immediately and if it succeeds, the Huntress’s role and the name of whoever they killed is revealed to all. If the Huntress did not target a living player, the Huntress’s role isn’t revealed.
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Werewolves Bot B BOT 25-01-2024 20:43
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Herald [Townsfolk Power]
Basics
The Herald selects a role and is informed when the last player who had the role at the time of selection dies.
Details
The Herald may select a role each phase, marking all players that currently have the role. This is not a visit. When the last marked players dies, the Herald is informed. A player remains marked until they die or the Herald selects another role. If several players die at the same time the Herald is not informed which of the players had their selected role. The Herald does not know which players they are marking. The Herald is not affected by any disguises or redirections.
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Child [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]
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The day after the Child dies, there will be two lynches instead of one.
Details
Whenever the Child dies, there is an additional lynch the next day. If more than one Child dies, there can be more than two lynches. It is allowed to lynch the same player several times. This is useful in scenarios where the werewolves want to lynch an Executioner, who can avoid one lynch. A Child losing their role does not cause an additional lynch.
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⛔ Syntax error. Unknown command webhook!
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Werewolf Bot Player HelpU​se $help <comma​nd> to get info​rmation about a comma​nd. W​hile ingame react to messages with 📌 to pin them! Player arguments can be names, emojis, ids, nicknames o​r disco​rd tags Arguments cant contain spaces, unless the argument is quoted "like this"; - Returns role info . - Returns simplified role info $info - Returns role info $ping - Tests the bot $help - Provides info​rmation about comma​nds $cc [create|create_hidden] - Creates a CC $cc spam - Creates a CC fo​r role info spam a​nd similiar $cc [create_multi|create_multi_hidden] - Creates multiple CCs $cc [add|remove|promote|demote|leave] - Manages CC members $cc leave - Leave a CC $cc [l​ist|owners] - Shows CC Info $cc [rename|archive] - Manages a CC name $l​ist - Lists signed up players $l​ist_alphabetical - Lists signed up players (alphabetical) $alive - Lists alive players $subs - Lists substitute players $signup - Signs you up fo​r the next game $emojis - Emoji & Player ID l​ist fo​r CCs $roll [-|whitel​ist|blackl​ist|number|?d?] - Ra​ndomizes $spectate - Makes you a spectato​r $substitute - Makes you a substitute player
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Roll HelpSyntax $roll [whitelist|blacklist|number|?d?]Functionality Commands to randomize a list of players. $help roll <sub-command> for detailed help. If used without a subcommand randomizes from the full player list.Usage > $roll < ▶️ Selected @McTsts (🛠)Aliases - rand - random - randomize
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Roll Whitelist HelpSyntax $roll whitelist <Player List>Functionality Selects a random player from the <Player List>Usage > $roll whitelist McTsts Vera < ▶️ Selected @McTsts (🛠)Aliases - roll wl
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Telapathic Space Squid 26-01-2024 00:09
Ok I think my final verdict is I dislike monarch and I will lay out my issues with it after the game is done 😅 You don't and many probably won't agree with me, but it has been incredibly frustrating to work with.
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*don't have to
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Maybe I will do a pros-cons-list, then it doesn’t just sound like me complaining 😂
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Lmao you want me to start already xD
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(Expect a longer read probably, good I got Nitro now xD, let's see how long it turns out...)
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Telapathic Space Squid 26-01-2024 00:45
Novel has been written e_takenotes
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Telapathic Space Squid
(Expect a longer read probably, good I got Nitro now xD, let's see how long it turns out...)
Telapathic Space Squid 26-01-2024 00:50
I think I had something like 10 or so signs left
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