Werewolves Revamped - main-stage

Town Square TownSquare

This is the town square! Here all the Participants can talk to each other about the game.

first

let's go gamers!!

WHERE BE ME CREW???

12:18

argh...

I align with no faction, I am a celestial entity

12:21

We are here to observe your kind

COMMUNISM FUCKS!!!

Felinus the 3rd

COMMUNISM FUCKS!!!

I WERE ABOUT TO PET YE CUZ YE MEOWED

Caw cacaw

THIS BE HOW YE TREAT ME?

You can still pet me

not when ye be acting like that...

Marxism > Communism

12:23

Ok bye

Space Communist Captain Sarah

not when ye be acting like that...

:(

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Marxism > Communism

argh we be not on a team matey?

Galaxy galaxy ship lasers you and leaves far far away from space whooshy whoosh

12:24

Good roleplay huhm

"Apaòç pé 5@t"

The green man sends a cypher

Wishes you all telepathically a good day

Beholds everyone.

I shall be leaving this dimensional plane

*behaulds

don't you know that spelling is in the eye of the beholder, chamelium warrior jay'uk?

Garun Dar

"Apaòç pé 5@t"

Apache foot sat (edited)

spelling is a material reality, not a poststructuralist construct

spelling is made up and i think intergalatic beings should get to make it up some more

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

spelling is a material reality, not a poststructuralist construct

aye do not understand a lick of what yer sayin warrior

bruh moment

Space Communist Captain Sarah

aye do not understand a lick of what yer sayin warrior

you see, under our traditions, i am a warrior of body and mind

aye like how ther green names be adding rules to monarch so ye cant boycott em (edited)

and i am declaring mind battle with the behaulder

Caw [Electing a Monarch?? What about me? Am I not already the Monarch?]

you are very brave to declare a mind battle with me, perhaps even foolish

Corrupt wolf! Stop eating the howling wolf!

for you underestimate how dedicated i am to proving my point

Vera

Caw [Electing a Monarch?? What about me? Am I not already the Monarch?]

a monarch to preside over this quiz - an intergalactic monarch, if you will

Vera

Caw [Electing a Monarch?? What about me? Am I not already the Monarch?]

Make Vera Monarch for funny RP reasons

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

you are very brave to declare a mind battle with me, perhaps even foolish

brain blast 1000

waaaaaa

I mean a bad reason is as good of a reason as any, unless someone wants to claim

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

a monarch to preside over this quiz - an intergalactic monarch, if you will

Caw [Is that not what I already am?]

what does monarch do again

Calm Interdimensional Being

Make Vera Monarch for funny RP reasons

aye second this

How about we begin with everyone saying 2 people whom they would vote out?

Caw? [Vote out? What's the meaning of that, in this situation?]

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

what does monarch do again

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Vera

Caw? [Vote out? What's the meaning of that, in this situation?]

arghh methinks ther thinkin' we kick people off the show!

Caaw! Caw [Oooooh! No, that's not the case. We're just electing the Trivia Monarch] Ca-caw

Vera

Caaw! Caw [Oooooh! No, that's not the case. We're just electing the Trivia Monarch] Ca-caw

thats what i be sayin!

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Blind Seer Sloven

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...since when argh blind people bein' mute too?

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Space Communist Captain Sarah

...since when argh blind people bein' mute too?

Cawa [Sounds a bit like a disrespectful question if you were to ask me. But I wasn't asked.]

ye were not asked yer avian scum...

I thought that would have been that moon guy

12:47

But it's just sunny

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Space Communist Captain Sarah

ye were not asked yer avian scum...

Caw? [I mean no harm to you and your group, yet you provoke hostility? This isn't the way we should go about it.] Caw

aye only just realized aye be seconding ther vote on an avian...

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12:48

▶️ Selected @Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp (

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aye will vote fer my own crew thank yer

I would pull out reads on people but I doubt they would be correct since a lot of this could be justifiable town roleplay.

12:49

The rp does make it more difficult for me to do things.

Space Communist Captain Sarah

aye will vote fer my own crew thank yer

Caw [Your own group just thought that we would be lynching someone. Do you really think someone who doesn't read before they send would be appropriate as a Monarch? I'm not arguing I should be Monarch, but I'm arguing that the Marxist shouldn't be.] Caw, kraa caw

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my crew be better than any dimwitted featharghbrain like ye and yours

Caw [Again with the unnecessary rudeness. When will the prejudice end? But I'm serious about not wanting to elect the Marxist /gamerelated] Caw cawa kra

Vera

Caw [Your own group just thought that we would be lynching someone. Do you really think someone who doesn't read before they send would be appropriate as a Monarch? I'm not arguing I should be Monarch, but I'm arguing that the Marxist shouldn't be.] Caw, kraa caw

Wasn't expecting there to be a gimmick thrown into the mix outta nowhere. Just used to there being a vote daily. You can't expect me to read the terms and conditions every time I buy a pokemon game.

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12:53

▶️ Selected @Acey Babey ( honk

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...what be an anser?

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Vera

Caw [Again with the unnecessary rudeness. When will the prejudice end? But I'm serious about not wanting to elect the Marxist /gamerelated] Caw cawa kra

If there is a game related reason, saying that would add to the info pool. Don't see why you should withhold that info unless it is role related. And it likely isn't role related since no abilities can and have been used yet.

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Wasn't expecting there to be a gimmick thrown into the mix outta nowhere. Just used to there being a vote daily. You can't expect me to read the terms and conditions every time I buy a pokemon game.

Caw caw [You're mistaken, lynch votes are a daily thing starting Day 1, and this is Day 0. /gamerelated] Caw

Vera

Caw caw [You're mistaken, lynch votes are a daily thing starting Day 1, and this is Day 0. /gamerelated] Caw

Well, I haven't played this since a while and was never a regular so you can understand why I might make such a mistake when I play other games regularly which have a lynch on the first day.

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

If there is a game related reason, saying that would add to the info pool. Don't see why you should withhold that info unless it is role related. And it likely isn't role related since no abilities can and have been used yet.

Caw [I don't want someone who seems to act before they think to be the Monarch. But you're right, my reasoning isn't exactly game related, more personality related. My apologies. /genuine]

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Well, I haven't played this since a while and was never a regular so you can understand why I might make such a mistake when I play other games regularly which have a lynch on the first day.

if it helps, matey, this be ther second game with monarch bein' voted

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Vera

Caw [I don't want someone who seems to act before they think to be the Monarch. But you're right, my reasoning isn't exactly game related, more personality related. My apologies. /genuine]

I don't think i really act before I think. Tbh I'm the only one so far who has attempted to gain an info pool day 1 and tried to make progress.

12:57

Contrary to a person who doesn't even speak words

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Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

I don't think i really act before I think. Tbh I'm the only one so far who has attempted to gain an info pool day 1 and tried to make progress.

Sorry, day 0

12:57

Forgot the difference

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Contrary to a person who doesn't even speak words

i think this critique gets a little personal, and for the sake of civility we should maybe avoid it

Personal?

12:59

I'm not insulting his personality or anything

12:59

Just saying

12:59

Sunny isn't speaking words at all

that said, vera, i am finding it a bit hard to read some of your messages - maybe you could put the translation like this: Caw caw. [translated words here]

Which is detrimental to town

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Which is detrimental to town

that's fair

13:00

if people could please add translations it would be nice

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

I don't think i really act before I think. Tbh I'm the only one so far who has attempted to gain an info pool day 1 and tried to make progress.

Caw [Not everyone has shown their face here yet, people are enjoying the roleplaying and you're not the only one who has attempted to gain info this day. I was trying to be nice but I by not even accepting my genuine apology, you're just being rude for no reason here.] Caw cawa

yes that's great ty

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aye be thinking ther bladenose be makin sense 'ere

Vera

Caw [Not everyone has shown their face here yet, people are enjoying the roleplaying and you're not the only one who has attempted to gain info this day. I was trying to be nice but I by not even accepting my genuine apology, you're just being rude for no reason here.] Caw cawa

Defending myself isn't me being rude. You said I don't act before I think. Which is the only personal thing said about anyone. I only spoke game related and tried to justify why I'm not a bad candidate for being monarch.

13:04

I also do not have a problem with rp. But not using words at all is a very big jump from rp to just idk.

Don't make a Jupiter out of Pluto

a jluto, if you will

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Defending myself isn't me being rude. You said I don't act before I think. Which is the only personal thing said about anyone. I only spoke game related and tried to justify why I'm not a bad candidate for being monarch.

i think this argument is going nowhere and it should be dropped before people do genuinely get offended

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Defending myself isn't me being rude. You said I don't act before I think. Which is the only personal thing said about anyone. I only spoke game related and tried to justify why I'm not a bad candidate for being monarch.

Caw? [Did you not read my apology? I apologized for judging you like that. You're picking and choosing what to ignore and what to work off of, it seems. /read I'd prefer if you didn't focus on my words as much, as I already apologized for my misjudgment.] Caw

Still haven't said anything about anyone. Just defending myself. Nobody has to get offended.

it doesn't necessarily matter if one, neither, or both of you are right, i just think that pushing this argument is silly if we want to actually achieve things this game

13:07

it's just distracting us from actually finding a good monarch

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sunny PLEASE add translations i dont know what that says

13:08

you're blind not mute

Vera

Caw? [Did you not read my apology? I apologized for judging you like that. You're picking and choosing what to ignore and what to work off of, it seems. /read I'd prefer if you didn't focus on my words as much, as I already apologized for my misjudgment.] Caw

Fine. Sorry.

aye be confused too

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

you're blind not mute

that be what im sayin!

13:08

see no evil, speak no evil

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

sunny PLEASE add translations i dont know what that says

"&ébt lönní"

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Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

it doesn't necessarily matter if one, neither, or both of you are right, i just think that pushing this argument is silly if we want to actually achieve things this game

Caw [

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Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

you're blind not mute

(i know lmao it's just a character thing i'm doing i'll start talking afterwards, but d0 doesn't have to be so serious damn

)

Caw... [Day 0 has an actual role election that has impact on the game. That's why people want to understand eachother.]

we do actually have a fairly important election d0 now, so i would appreciate translations, bc we should be discussing game things

Who wishes to join our generous Brotherhood

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

we do actually have a fairly important election d0 now, so i would appreciate translations, bc we should be discussing game things

Celestial Leftist Navigator Val

Who wishes to join our generous Brotherhood

we argh no such thing matey..

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

we do actually have a fairly important election d0 now, so i would appreciate translations, bc we should be discussing game things

Caw caw [How do you propose we go about the Monarch process? Randomizing seems a bit volatile]

i think it would be good to see if anyone is willing to claim a role to secure monarch

forgive me if i am being silly but i don't know what benefit we would get from anyone claiming a role for monarch because we should save protected roles for mayor/reporter

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

forgive me if i am being silly but i don't know what benefit we would get from anyone claiming a role for monarch because we should save protected roles for mayor/reporter

we don't need the monarch to be a prot role bc of the heir system

Caw cawa [Claiming Day 0 sounds very off to me.]

i mean we'd only need one or two people to come forward

(wouldn't this just become a battle about who has the better claim or whatever)

that is basically what werewolves is about

So are we trying to tie the monarch or are we electing today

Caw! [I know it shouldn't be bad if some random role claims, they could be lying for all we know. It's a better strategy than randomizing] Caw

Steller Comrade First Mate Tank

So are we trying to tie the monarch or are we electing today

electing for sure

What are the roles that we would want to make monarch?

(maybe child?)

an assistant could actually be a great candidate for monarch, but we'd have to choose which claim is best based on reads

Steller Comrade First Mate Tank

So are we trying to tie the monarch or are we electing today

Kraa [Mayor has to be available fast. The elected trio is more important]

if we tie we might not get mayor tomorrow lmao

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

an assistant could actually be a great candidate for monarch, but we'd have to choose which claim is best based on reads

and i don't know how confident i am in doing this

i am mat meyestress

Went through the roles and should we save child for tao trio or shud we use it in the monarch?

13:17

Preferably trio rightm

13:17

?

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

and i don't know how confident i am in doing this

Caw? [Lame Participant ping asking for people who wanna come forward? Has to be willing to claim and defend their claim]

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

we don't need the monarch to be a prot role bc of the heir system

surely though if town got monarch, wolfpack would just kill them the same night and assume they won't have enough info/time to elect a town heir

Yeah child should be useful midgame when we can actually use lynches

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

surely though if town got monarch, wolfpack would just kill them the same night and assume they won't have enough info/time to elect a town heir

it's a risk, but vera's right - town wants mayor and rep, and it cares about these more than preserving monarch for itself

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

surely though if town got monarch, wolfpack would just kill them the same night and assume they won't have enough info/time to elect a town heir

Caw [I would assume that a supposed town would have some sort of contact, be it a player who trusts that person enough or be it an invest]

there be turbulence on me ship... the ground be shaking!

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

it's a risk, but vera's right - town wants mayor and rep, and it cares about these more than preserving monarch for itself

surely a random monarch is better then?

i'm against randomising on principle

Yea I think random monarch is just slightly better then relying on claims

and obviously a wolf monarch from start is worse for town than a town monarch and then a wolf monarch

13:25

but i gtg write this essay so i cant contribute to the discussion further

Tanner and hell can disguise so claims rn are less then useless

We can use an assistant to check monarch for wolfishness

13:25

Fun fact

how (edited)

Monarch knights assistant

Steller Comrade First Mate Tank

Tanner and hell can disguise so claims rn are less then useless

me when i forget about reads

We confirm knighting via poll results tomorrow

13:27

Assistant redirects monarch if wolf

Last 'Human' of Earth

We can use an assistant to check monarch for wolfishness

Caw [How would we know the assistant if real? What is nobody admits to be knighted and votes with the majority? I might be misunderstanding, tho] (edited)

Check assistant to confirm both

Why do we want the trio early btw? Doesn't mayor only give us like an additional lynch or has an additional vote? I forgot which one. We can easily forgo it. For the graveyard guy, we can easily use the time, get someone trusted to tell us the dead roles. Either way graveyard guy would get all dead roles. I forgot who was the third elected. Guardian, that would be pretty useful ig. But overall, I think it's neutral whether we decide to get monarch or not.

Vera

Caw [How would we know the assistant if real? What is nobody admits to be knighted and votes with the majority? I might be misunderstanding, tho] (edited)

These are good questions I can't anwser

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Why do we want the trio early btw? Doesn't mayor only give us like an additional lynch or has an additional vote? I forgot which one. We can easily forgo it. For the graveyard guy, we can easily use the time, get someone trusted to tell us the dead roles. Either way graveyard guy would get all dead roles. I forgot who was the third elected. Guardian, that would be pretty useful ig. But overall, I think it's neutral whether we decide to get monarch or not.

We definitely want reporter ASAP always

Last 'Human' of Earth

Check assistant to confirm both

Would need quite a bit of cooperation from everyone and also may result in an unintended lynch?

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Why do we want the trio early btw? Doesn't mayor only give us like an additional lynch or has an additional vote? I forgot which one. We can easily forgo it. For the graveyard guy, we can easily use the time, get someone trusted to tell us the dead roles. Either way graveyard guy would get all dead roles. I forgot who was the third elected. Guardian, that would be pretty useful ig. But overall, I think it's neutral whether we decide to get monarch or not.

My get monarch or not I meant whether we get em this or next phase

Felinus the 3rd

Would need quite a bit of cooperation from everyone and also may result in an unintended lynch?

It's nothing flawless

13:29

But doesn't hurt to use it if we can

Last 'Human' of Earth

We definitely want reporter ASAP always

Why? Of course I don't know many strategies so there definitely is a strong reason for this but I would like to know that reason.

True

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Why? Of course I don't know many strategies so there definitely is a strong reason for this but I would like to know that reason.

To get the roles of the dead

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Why? Of course I don't know many strategies so there definitely is a strong reason for this but I would like to know that reason.

Rep is pretty much one of the best ways for town to confirm scum

Caw [I think the assistant plan could work but it'd require an assistant to claim besides another role also claiming to get Monarch. A random Monarch might not cooperate (Wolf, Solo, Ua, IA, etc). There's a lot that could go wrong.]

Vera

Caw [I think the assistant plan could work but it'd require an assistant to claim besides another role also claiming to get Monarch. A random Monarch might not cooperate (Wolf, Solo, Ua, IA, etc). There's a lot that could go wrong.]

We'll see from poll results if they cooperated

13:31

So not cooperating is good

13:31

We would need two claims which idk if that's good

We can make do by using deduction to make votes. Also I doubt that knowing dead people's roles one day earlier would make us change our plans that much but definitely would have an impact. But I guess having it earlier is better. Probably better than a botched monarch vote.

It's a delay of minimum one day

Caw [All fair, but that still leaves the fact that people can vote on the same person. I guess it'll leave at least a list of people that could possibly be heir. But I see potential for people to lie (people not voting, saying you made someone heir while thats untrue to "confirm" someone else). I might be getting a bit paranoid about it, tho]

I mean it would be some info

13:34

Instead of none

Caw [Can't deny that. Not sure how useful it'll be in the long run, tho.]

13:35

Caw cawa? [How would you go about organizing this to happen?]

I guess we'd have to see if anyone even claims assistant

aye would probably be onl' claimin' assistant if someone else were to be claimin arghhh (edited)

Uhhhhhh the game started while I was in class?

Hi

13:59

What's new

Uhm people cant agree on who to make monarch from what it looks like (I also just finished my class, so I probably missed a bit too) and also we have to elect monarch if we want any shot at reporter

Not really

14:13

With the rule changes to monarch, we can abstain until there is confirmed town

But then we don't get to mayor and rep right?

~≈Oops I should've been doing rp along with everything≈~

14:14

~≈Not necessarily, why would that stop mayor and rep?≈~

Do correct me if I'm mistaken, it's my first full game with monarch in, but would we not need to elect monarch to unlock mayor election?

No

like how it goes mayor>rep>guard

Caw [Check #information, it announced a change to Monarch that you might not be used to]

Oh cool

~≈ Mayor is D1 election while monarch is D0 ≈~

14:17

~≈ Before, no one gets the role if you don't elect monarch on D0 ≈~

Cawa kraa [Not electing a Monarch will just stall the election every single day until one is elected. Only when there's a Monarch elected, then there will be a possibility to elect a Mayor. This is exactly why the Host put down a disclaimer] Cawaa! Caw (edited)

~≈ ↑ ≈~

Spirit of Shadow Yin

~≈Not necessarily, why would that stop mayor and rep?≈~

Caw! [You're contadicting this by agreeing to me tho? I'm a bit confused]

~≈ Plus there are 3 assistants and child this game ≈~

Monarch [Extra Elected]

Limited Role

Basics

The Monarch is elected during Day 0. They may knight a player each night, temporarily granting them an extra vote and negating a vote against them.

Details (1/2)

The Monarch can only be elected once, usually this is during Day 0, but if no Monarch is elected the election will reoccur until a Monarch is elected. After a Monarch is elected, there will not be any further Monarch elections for the remainder of the game. However, if the Monarch dies, the role is passed on to their heir. The Monarch may select a player as their heir; they can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Monarch wants. Neither the knighted player nor the heir are aware of being selected by the Monarch. The knighted player's vote appears normally on votes: however, an additional vote is counted internally, and the total vote count in the vote results will be correct. Similarly, the vote against the knight that has been negated is still shown in the vote results and the total vote count is decreased by one. After the end of the day, the knighted player is no longer knighted.

Details (2/2)

When the heir becomes the new Monarch, they are not revealed. If the Monarch dies without a living heir, the role is lost. Knighting a player and picking an heir are immediate abilities. The Monarch may not select themselves as knight or heir.

~≈ Oh wait it stalls election? ≈~

Yes that's what I thought

Caw!!! [That's what I've been saying and that's what the Host clarified in the information channel!

The Monarch can only be elected once, usually this is during Day 0, but if no Monarch is elected the election will reoccur until a Monarch is elected.]

So ideally we should be electing a monarch

Spirit of Shadow Yin

~≈ Oh wait it stalls election? ≈~

)))Yes it does!!! Thats why we need to elect it(((

~≈ Yeah that makes sense. Anyone want to come out as assistant? ≈~

Yeah. The negatives of stalling the election are greater than the negatives of a bad monarch pick.

14:24

Atleast the monarch pick gives us info to deduce stuff off aswell in case of the worst case scenario

Who are we even electing

'Tis the question

14:25

The birbs want Vera, the pirates want derp from what I can tell

14:26

(Might be individuals overrepresenting a group though

Caw! [Some people are suggesting a random election but someone think we should try and get a public claim from a decent role so we have a slightly bigger chance at electing a town. Ts has even thought of a semi-provable way to confirm a Monarch as town, but I'm a bit skeptical, mostly paranoid about the many things that can go wrong]

Telapathic Space Squid

(Might be individuals overrepresenting a group though

Caw cawa, caw [The Pirates sure are trying to Monarch on their side. But the birds are quiet and reserved right now]

What role would even be good for monarch

Caw caw [Anything that claims, honestly. Possibly something that could be a threat to scum.] caw!

my great intellect suggests to me that perhaps a herald or coroner could be a good monarch

wont ther wolves just be killin' the monarch? seems like ther obvious kill to me

the monarch chooses an heir, and the monarch role survives through this

Vera

Caw! [Some people are suggesting a random election but someone think we should try and get a public claim from a decent role so we have a slightly bigger chance at electing a town. Ts has even thought of a semi-provable way to confirm a Monarch as town, but I'm a bit skeptical, mostly paranoid about the many things that can go wrong]

What do you want us to do exactly, like your entire outlook on the ideal direction to take for this election? This is not an insult or anything in any fashion. I want to know what would be your ideal plan, I think that would help us a lot deduction wise.

~≈ True but no one knows what other people's roles are. Coroner or the heralds won't know who to choose D0 ≈~

Chamelium Warrior Jay'uk

the monarch chooses an heir, and the monarch role survives through this

im aware, warrior, but methinks it still be a good kill because it will pass to pretty much anyone

I think the ideal plan would be a coroner or herald monarch electing an assistant to confirm themself as not wolf

~≈ Also I'd love to know what Ts thought of ≈~

It is most informative, observing your species of lower form, discussing politics. This will further our research greatly

@Contestant I am herald vote me as monarch

Calm Interdimensional Being

It is most informative, observing your species of lower form, discussing politics. This will further our research greatly

shut yer trap ye dirty gas dweller

~≈ No one asked for your opinion mato, go back to the 6th dimension ≈~

that was fast

Space Communist Captain Sarah

shut yer trap ye dirty gas dweller

Your insults are meaningles.

~≈ That was fast indeed :p, you're gonna die tonight Swurt ≈~

aye am curious as to why @Empress of the Observors be votin 'erself?

~≈ Assuming that you're not wolf ≈~

the one issue with having a herald claim as monarch is we can't have counterclaims since there are 2 herald but it seems swurtle has already just gone for it

Cuz it’s only d0 I have no idea to choose as an heir but it’s fine

IS IT NOW

Swurtle. Would you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable player strategy and meta wise?

14:40

Like knowing what roles fit for what purpose and what not

Hi wwr nation

14:40

Also wtf swurtle

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

Swurtle. Would you consider yourself to be a knowledgeable player strategy and meta wise?

No

I'm so jealous I'm not a space communist

Bestie suggested herald should he monarch and I was like yeah that sounds like a good idea

I think swurtle is scum

14:41

I have a hard scumread on swurtle

jay could just be saying stuff tho T-T

Oh waut

14:41

Jay also said herald was a good option

14:41

Not just katy

14:41

Nvm then

14:41

This could go either way

Cosmic Marxist Pirate Cook Swurt

Bestie suggested herald should he monarch and I was like yeah that sounds like a good idea

Who is swurtle's bestie?

14:42

Katy or jay?

jay was the first to suggest it.

Yeah, but who's the bestie here

jay

Nvm then, sry, swurtle might not be scum

Caw caw [Hm, interesting. A specific role was suggested and then it was claimed. I kind of wanted no roles to be said, as that would make for a quick and easy scum claim]

i agree with vera

Vera

Caw caw [Hm, interesting. A specific role was suggested and then it was claimed. I kind of wanted no roles to be said, as that would make for a quick and easy scum claim]

The one of royal descent, forget not who claimed.

14:44

Does such behavior fit the being usually?

Vera

Caw caw [Hm, interesting. A specific role was suggested and then it was claimed. I kind of wanted no roles to be said, as that would make for a quick and easy scum claim]

also if someone says that they think a role should be elected and then that role is immediately claimed, that's either indicative of a scum claim or someone with no critical thinking skills

Cawcaw [We all know it's Swurtle of all people, but anyone, even a new person with a bit of mafia/werewolves experience can see that if there's a role said, claiming might be a good idea to reserve a spot in a claim list and also try and get a good elected role. Now, of course, Swurtle can be genuine. But I'm warning everyone to not immediately think of this as a good candidate, but to rather think about this and question Swurtle for the motives or consider waiting for more claims. But that should of course always be done.] caw caw. Cawa Caw Kraa (edited)

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I am but observing you primitive species, your internal politics interest me not (= I have no clue what the hap is fuckening)

We will need Swurtle (or whoever gets monarch at the end) to knight an assistant either way to confirm

how does knighting an assistant confirm anything

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

also if someone says that they think a role should be elected and then that role is immediately claimed, that's either indicative of a scum claim or someone with no critical thinking skills

Caw! [Exactly!]

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

how does knighting an assistant confirm anything

it be confirmin non wolf with 'eir redirection matey

a) that is reliant on the assistant claim being truthful which we can't know for sure b) assistant only redirects wolf actions right?

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

how does knighting an assistant confirm anything

Ca Kraa Caw [If the Monarch is Wolfsided, the Assistant will redirect it and both will be confirmed as their respective roles. If the Heir is any other role, this of course wouldn't do much, as Assistant only redirects Werewolf Actions. So it only rules out a wolf Monarch, and not a Solo or UA Monarch (which are less threatening but still a bit bad)]

oh i wasn't sure if monarch counted as a wolfish power or not

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

a) that is reliant on the assistant claim being truthful which we can't know for sure b) assistant only redirects wolf actions right?

correct matey, many places it be goin wrong includin devils an such

Bubble Eyed Behaulder

a) that is reliant on the assistant claim being truthful which we can't know for sure b) assistant only redirects wolf actions right?

Caw caw!! [My point exactly. It certainyl is a strat but it has a bit much potential to go wrong]

14:52

caw caw caw caw [doesn't hurt to try, though. But we'd need an assistant claim]

If it's the only strat we have to check the trustability of the monarch and it would work if both the heir is real assistant and the monarch is town, it's un-townlike to be this worried that you re-iterate the potential of it to go wrong. I feel as if vera might be scumlean here.

Caw caw [It's the only strat that's so far suggested. To me, it feels like its got too many flaws to actually work. But like I said, No reason not to try. It just requires another town role to expose themselves publically and that's a lot for Day 0] (edited)

~But wouldn’t it be too easy for wolf to elect another wolf and just say that they got assistant?~

Caw [that's exactly something that could go wrong]

Galactic Marxist Boatswain Derp

If it's the only strat we have to check the trustability of the monarch and it would work if both the heir is real assistant and the monarch is town, it's un-townlike to be this worried that you re-iterate the potential of it to go wrong. I feel as if vera might be scumlean here.

aye disagree matey, as much as i dislike the feathered freaks, there be many places for the plan to go wrong and it is important we be tellin' everyone about em so we know it i'nt concrete

Cawaaa [Addressing possible strats makes it so that scum team has less options to choose from, because those strats are already publically known]

Good defense

Maybe we just attempt a tie? We designate 2 people to vote, anyone else who votes we immediately lynch at suspicion of being scum and trying to tip the scales?

Monarch now goes on

15:00

So we kinda have to elect

~ No we want monarch and we want monarch now ~

Caw? [Huh? We're not lynching anyone? We need to elect]

Phantom of Light Yang

Monarch now goes on

Goes on?

Vera

Caw? [Huh? We're not lynching anyone? We need to elect]

I meant the monarch role

If we don’t elect a monarch next phase will be a monarch poll

15:00

Like mayor

Ohhhh

15:00

Ok

15:01

In that case, I don't think swurtle is a fantastic choice. It just seems too obvious for someone to be suggested "oh this role would be a good choice" and then someone immediately claims it

15:02

Sorry I'm slow, if this conversation has happened already ignore me I'm rereading all today's messages

Well I suppose it could also be a swurtle moment

the thing is i would also 100% believe swurtle would just do that

I don't have the context of people's usual actions out of each game, so I'm just going with "this feels dumb as fuck"

aye mean no offense to one of my own crew but.. i be seein' it too

Felinus the 3rd

We will need Swurtle (or whoever gets monarch at the end) to knight an assistant either way to confirm

Also this plan just feels... Bad? It requires a non-scum claim, an assistant claim, both to be truthful, both to be believed even if they are truthful and the for the information the "assistant'" puts forth to be truthful and not just a team or wolf pack communicating with eachother. Or am I missing something and this is genius?

Well it works to confirm things

15:06

But it’s not necessarily good because it can be faked and it’s also narrowing the rl for wolves

the plan be riddled with holes but alas, tis better than none

No plan is better than an easily exploitable plan