Werewolves Revamped - woof

Werewolves Revamped

S11g7 | CC 2 / woof

@Simon Elliot has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 6 @Mr. Nicolas Marsh @Horace Gardner @Fred Fischer @Mr. Robert Elliot @Mr. Mark Waite @Simon Elliot

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why do we only have 6

Hiiiii

theres 7 of us

Who did I miss?

uhh

Sarv is fucking dead

yeah but

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oh wait

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im dumb

00:10

nvm nvm

Swurtle we don't know yet

LOL

YAY!!!

Could be an ellaborate lie

so uh

My wolves!!!

Hiii huckk

We're cooking huck

who is the chef val says we are killing?

AWOOOO

We just lynched two town

cause we got reporter info through chef didnt we..?

We're insane at this game

00:11

And chef is wolf aligned supposedly

and Jay just said he’s horse cuz I think I made him believe I’m psycho

00:11

Said ts was a horse

Fred Fischer

cause we got reporter info through chef didnt we..?

no chef only got from ts and heist \

And that’s the horse that was on my list.

Ts was horse actually

ohhh makes sense

00:12

im gonna go claim to val now

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im still a non claimer

So the fact that Jay told me ts was horse makes me think he actually believes in pp

Exactly one or zero of the players with one of the titles, "Mr." "Mrs." or "Mx." in their nickname are a member of the wolf team.

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with 1 no

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and then

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"No one under me on the living player list at this time is an evil player"

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with 1 no 1 yes

@Fred Fischer WHO DID SWURTLE SAY IS THE WAITER

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Wait its not you

why ask me

00:12

IDK

@Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Horace Gardner

@Fred Fischer WHO DID SWURTLE SAY IS THE WAITER

its heist

No but dummo says he knows wolf wsiter

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Did swurtle fucking sell her own waiter out???

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https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1239184766817931294/1240063957557968896

Horace Gardner

No but dummo says he knows wolf wsiter

oh wait am i fucked

Since there was a very small chance Mark wasn't the fox you should have never put us all in the same chat or released our names to them

00:14

You should have just stayed the liaison

Fred Fischer

with 1 no 1 yes

You're counting as one player not voting?

@Mr. Nicolas Marsh talk to swurtle

Fair but tbh Ts, Alpha, and Sarv are all usually active

Ask her wtf she is doing

Horace Gardner

Did swurtle fucking sell her own waiter out???

The waiter probably told val before dying

She actually sold her wolf waiter to town

This is why you don't tell your waiters they are the waiter

Horace Gardner

She actually sold her wolf waiter to town

no, right?

Dummo knows who the wolf waiter is

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https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1239184766817931294/1240063957557968896

Nah

00:16

He knows the town and horse waiters

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The town waiter he knows because heist told him

okay so listen everyone

The wolf wwwaiter he probably was told by swurtle was dead

Okay, Jay is the HOD He’s gonna doom mat tonight.

swurtle told me that they are threating to lynch swurtle, if she doesnt sell their "wolf waiter" (aka me)

Val says we lynch fox tomorrow but that's because he thinks Jay is fox

So maybe let him live until tomorrow night?

she told me that she is thinking of framing mato

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

swurtle told me that they are threating to lynch swurtle, if she doesnt sell their "wolf waiter" (aka me)

Tell her its bullshit

00:17

Do NOT give into pressure

Mr. Mark Waite

Okay, Jay is the HOD He’s gonna doom mat tonight.

Is val doomed?

00:17

by hod?

Tell her this

If so we can kill mat

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And it won't even matter

"DO NOT SAY ANYTHING"

Mat is targeting me and I am immune to the huntress attack

Mat is powerless

00:18

Just leave her

No, let Jay kill mat. Go after someone else!

00:19

And we can kill Jay tomorrow night if he doesn’t get lynched.

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Cuz that’ll help us get mat out.

Horace Gardner

Mat is powerless

I just don't want to give her time to figure out that she should not target me

@Mr. Nicolas Marsh ALSO do not mention any other wolf to swurtle

Because it is a bit obvious

yeah dude obv

Very important

00:20

She will sell it first thing

Yeah, swurtle is a leaky leaker, keep wolves to yourself around her

Swurtle can't win without us now but swurtle can't be trusted with info sadly

00:20

Like, she's wolf aligned now

Agreed

But we should still be cautious

She’s a serial leaker

So make it your task to keep her updated, nick

no

As in

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Not ignore her

well yeah don't ignore her but she doesn't need to know details

She will panic if nick ignores her

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And sell info out

i am not gonna ignore her

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but its late for me

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and i have to go to sleep soon

Yea ok

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Gn

Horace Gardner

And sell info out

To who??

00:22

What info???

Okay, I need to run. So happy to be here! Lmk what I can do to help, but please don’t kill Jay tonight.

If she tells anyone nick is wolf that's straight up gamethrowing

Horace Gardner

Gn

gn

good night nick

Simon Elliot

If she tells anyone nick is wolf that's straight up gamethrowing

Suso

Mr. Mark Waite

Okay, I need to run. So happy to be here! Lmk what I can do to help, but please don’t kill Jay tonight.

sure thing

Do we have a sticker for nothing

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Sticker

Well last time it was that bad the game got cut short lmao

That is why im just covering bases

Mr. Mark Waite

Okay, Jay is the HOD He’s gonna doom mat tonight.

Hey huck can you get us the info on what sort of dooming did val get?

Uhhh, I’ll try, but I don’t wanna be too suss about it.

we keep talking in wolfpack

In fact, it would be weird if I asked, since Val isn’t on my list.

why dont we talk here

00:38

this is a tragedy

Mr. Mark Waite

In fact, it would be weird if I asked, since Val isn’t on my list.

i mean, you can be curious

00:38

and surely the reporter dying helps your cause too

But also, if he’s not death doomed, then dies due to wolves, I think that would raise more red flags cuz pack would have found out they need to attack him.

00:39

But yeah, guardian dying should be helpful to Jay.

Mr. Mark Waite

In fact, it would be weird if I asked, since Val isn’t on my list.

Right

00:40

You're faking psycho to them

Anyways, I need to eat then catch a bus, but I’ll chat when I’m on the bus.

Yeah, wait a sec

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Townsfolk: 3/12 Citizen x3: ~~Heist~~, Wolfie, Sharl Butcher x2: Render, ~~Phantom~~ Town Crier: ~~Arch~~ Medium: ~~Invinci~~ Runner: ~~Val (Town cried by Arch)~~ Crowd Seeker: ~~Alpha~~ Huntress: ~~Mat~~ Apothecary: ~~Mato~~ Hooker: ~~Louise~~ Wolves: 2/7 Sneaking Wolf: Nick (Citizen) Scared Wolf: Suso (Huntress) Tracking Wolf: ~~Sarv~~ Bloody Butcher: ~~Fed (Butcher)~~ Alpha Wolf: ~~Fish (Medium)~~ Pack Tanner: ~~DDD (Hooker??)~~ Clairvoyant Fox: ~~Huck (Psychopath)~~ Solo: 0/3 Horseman: of Famine: ~~Vera~~ Horseman of Death: ~~Jay~~ Horseman of Pestilence: Ts Unaligned: 1/2 Chef: ~~Swurtle (Town: Heist, Wolf: Nick, Solo: Ts)~~ Psychopath: Derp (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 15-5-2024 00:41

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thanks bestie i was way too lazy to do that

We know a lot

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Only 5 unknown players

doesnt TS have to be famine?

With reads we could get apothecary tonight

because uh

Idk

fox roleblocked when TS was dead

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or wait

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was that the same night he died

Need to get apoth tonight if we can.

It was D0 huck checks alpha N1 end of night ts dies D1 huck roleblocked

Who do u think that is

So Ts could be pestilence

ah, i see

Horace Gardner

Who do u think that is

Honestly? Mato

00:43

The man is way too silent

1/5 chance

I don't think vera is town

id believe it to be mato

Could be

00:43

But both Jay and Vera were pushing for stuff that isn't great for town

im still confused why alpha wolf is in this list

For Jay the reason is obvious

Uhhh…. I’ve got a crazy question for you @Fred Fischer

yes?

Fred Fischer

im still confused why alpha wolf is in this list

Hosts are just saying you are a yoghurt male sigma grindset

Simon Elliot

Hosts are just saying you are a yoghurt male sigma grindset

im gonna make an alpha wolf edit

00:44

call me andwoof tate

Could I tell Jay that you came to me to say you’re wolf? Thinking I must be fox. Buys me some trust with Jay, and I could do it with Val too. I know it sounds silly, but, with your sacrifice, I may be able to get into a sort of trust situation with both teams.

WTF!!

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yeah sure i dont mind

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lol

Please don't

00:45

We don't need to sacrifice right now

i dont mind it if you want to do it!

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but if its a bad idea dont do it

We're in a position where in a few phases we may outvote town

Selling out a wolf that’s on my list is a good way to earn good faith.

i personally think we are just fine

We know a crazy amount of info already

honestly do we need good faith with jay?

But okay, I’ll hold off on that.

we can just kill jay

We don't really need good faith to win, do we?

when needed

Yeah but, I may be able to control his hofs, so like, if I can, might be able to get more towns out quicker

It would be sick but it's also unnecessarily risky

He already said he wants to help me win.

WWho is the actual psycopath

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Any clue?

not a clue honestly

No, but we need to keep them alive

Mr. Mark Waite

Yeah but, I may be able to control his hofs, so like, if I can, might be able to get more towns out quicker

we only need one more kill from jay methinks

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like

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if you can dictate a single kill after mat

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i think we will be winning by then

Medium, Citizen, Apothecary, Horseman, Psycopath are our unknowns

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Hmm

who the hell is my CTC!!!

Hmm…. Maybe I can find out who Jay Hof’d by asking him if it’s anyone on my list. Then he may just come out with it.

val says he doesnt trust me fully so i imagine the medium has come to him already

Apothecary would be very good to catch

but the double claim means im discrediting their info and providing my own fake info so wooo

But we're risking killing a horseman or psychopath instead

horseman i think is mostly fine to kill

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psycho ehhh

Fred Fischer

horseman i think is mostly fine to kill

It's fine but not ideal

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Jay is already going to die

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If only one horseman is alive do they get apocalypse?

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No?

Horsemen | Additional Information | Limited

The Horsemen is a team usually consisting of around two to four players. The Horsemen can either start out as the Horseman role or as a specific Horseman, but never as an Apocalyptic Horseman. The goal of the Horsemen is to kill everyone, however they only gain a killing power if they have doomed all aligned players. Dooming a player has a different effect depending on the type of Horseman. At the start of the game, the Horsemen do not know each other, but if a Horseman attempts to doom another Horseman, it fails and the Horseman unite instead. When that happens they both keep their powers, but join a shared Horsemen channel and can now coordinate their actions. United Horsemen are considered to be doomed, which is relevant should they lose their role. If there is only a single Horseman (left) and all other players are doomed, they become an Apocalyptic Horseman. For a list of Horsemen run $i horsemen team.

oh no

00:51

that's not how it works

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I forgot

forgor

yeah we're ok

Chef swurtle got HOD’d

wuh?

00:58

how do you know which horseman was it?

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that makes no sense

She apparently killed ts?

00:58

So Jay got revenge? Or something.

?

00:58

??

I don’t quite follow the logic

????

00:59

who told you this

^

Why would swwurtle kill ts

But idk, I guess see if chef dies tonight to see if Jay is telling the truth

wtf

00:59

So val isn't hod'd??

if val isnt hod'd that changes plans

That would suck

Appears not.

Val needs to die

No

00:59

Save mat

what if val just lied about being doomed?

possible but like why

IDK

to not be doomed again

01:00

hm

thats my thinking

I think we should kill jay to save mat

val couldve lied about being doomed

Horace Gardner

I think we should kill jay to save mat

no fucking shot

cause IDK why famine would doom

01:01

i see no reason to save mat

we are getting our asses lynched tomorrow if town doesn't have to kill jay

If mat dies suso will get found out

Mat won't reveal my role and I am good enough at gaslighting to get away with it

01:01

Mat won't die tonight

01:01

Mat dies end of next night

Dummo has reporter

We could attack val twice

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Because attacking jay is just as bad for us

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as wasting a kill

i kinda dont like that but maybe

Attacking jay saves you tho, we should focus on keeping as many alive rn since we dont have clues

attacking jay saves me and potentially kills someone else

01:03

Because there's an extra lynch if we kill jay

01:03

Because jay is for sure getting lynched

Huh? How’s it save you?

Killing jay is absolutely the worst move

Agreed

The alternative if you want to do that is attacking val twice

Jay alive means a free town kill

We get a mat and a val kill

01:04

We just need to know what HoD is actually doing

Mr. Mark Waite

Huh? How’s it save you?

He claimed huntress and mat is huntress, dummo will find it on report

And our info rn isn't reliable (edited)

Horace Gardner

He claimed huntress and mat is huntress, dummo will find it on report

Not if we attack dummo, dummy

Dummo is runner

Which sounds bad but actually is more efficient than attacking Jay

01:05

Runners only run so far

Hod attacked swurtle last night, and mat tonight. Mat will die tomorrow night if Jay stays alive. (edited)

Yes but the huntress result is tmrw

Mr. Mark Waite

Hod attacked swurtle last night, and mat tonight. Mat will die tomorrow night if Jay stays alive. (edited)

so swurtle dies tonight?

Simon Elliot

Which sounds bad but actually is more efficient than attacking Jay

Attacking Jay prevents mat death, means town gets an extra lynch likely on us Attacking val twice means we lose one attack opportunity, but it doesn't matter because mat dies

01:06

And val also dies

Yeah, so it seems

its swurtover

Simon Elliot

Attacking Jay prevents mat death, means town gets an extra lynch likely on us Attacking val twice means we lose one attack opportunity, but it doesn't matter because mat dies

Why on us

01:07

Sharl is alive

well there will be two lynches in either

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i like jay being alive cause sharl/jay lynch

01:08

as opposed to sharl/??? lynch

Likely fish lunch I reckon if no jay

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Or from what I understand, there is sus on fish from both sides

i personally want to get a kill tonight and just push for majority

Jay needs to go before we start stealing poll lunches

01:12

Also the apoth

01:12

Cuz they can change our numbers pretty quick.

yeah

Hmm, but maybe apoth will hit up Jay, since he just openly came out as scum.

01:13

Which gets rid of that kill threat.

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Actually, hopefully that happens cuz it gets rid of 2 kill threats in 1 action.

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Then we could bully polls

Horace Gardner

Why on us

We don't know if town knows stuff and we don't risk it

01:20

Apothecary also exists

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And is alive

01:20

I think most solid rn is attacking val

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Unless we figure out what HoD has been doing and will be doing properly

Your pfp looks so much like fed

have you ever seen fed

Yeah

01:22

In your pfp

You know, I have met fed

01:22

He looks very italian

Lucky bastard

01:22

I bet he sounds Italian too

He doesn't sound

No sound?!?!

01:23

Gasp

look I think we should absolutely not kill jay

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And probably kill val

01:25

Tonight

01:25

I don't know if you have any other ideas

Yeah, I think that’s the safest bet honestly.

But if Jay is dooming Mat and we can't change that this is probably the best course of action

Or phan, but like, that doesn’t help anything but keep from guardian.

Simon Elliot

And probably kill val

well attack him to kill him tomorrow

Mr. Mark Waite

Or phan, but like, that doesn’t help anything but keep from guardian.

also a decent idea

01:26

I would do that if Jay would doom Val or if we knew Val is death doomed

are we really sure val isnt death doomed

Val isn’t death doomed.

According to Jay?

Yeah

Jay says they death doomed who which nights?

I didn’t ask directly, just asked if someone on my list was hit by chance, he said no, he hit chef.

We know Sarv was death doomed N1

01:27

This could be just bs

I don’t wanna ask too much

Simon Elliot

We know Sarv was death doomed N1

this we know for certain

01:27

yeah I get that

Only things that relate to my list.

So what are we thinking

01:29

The thing is

01:29

We know the horsemen are pestilence, death, famine

01:29

And it makes no sense for pestilence or famine to doom a runner claim

01:29

But maybe they are just bad at the game?

Or maybe they just know they haven’t been doomed? Idk

01:30

What’s pest do again? I forget

Blocks your ability

Hunger is disguise. War is votes Death is death

What happened to you the other day

Oh right, that’s what I got.

01:31

So prolly hunger horse on Val then.

01:31

If he’s telling the truth.

01:31

Idk, I think the best kill to me is phan (imo) cuz it keeps guardian out of the mix. Then we can get Val out when we have control over votes.

01:32

But then again, mat dying would be bad for you.

The problem is

But like, fighting a runner just feels futile

If mat is death doomed

01:32

I get lynched

01:32

So we need val dead if mat is death doomed

01:33

Unless we get majority on the polls already

01:33

Which I don't think we do

They can only lynch so many people, and hopefully Jay gets hit by apoth for being so upfront with the scumminess.

Mr. Mark Waite

They can only lynch so many people, and hopefully Jay gets hit by apoth for being so upfront with the scumminess.

Yeah but that happens before

Meh, follow your heart I guess. Guardian is annoying, and arch will prolly get it if we don’t kill Val or phan tonight

01:34

We could lose a lot of kills if the guardian makes good plays, then we would be in more trouble than just losing you.

01:35

But overall, whatever you wanna do, I’m chill with.

I think if they don't have info they can't use guardian properly

01:36

And CS is gone

True, but it’s another variable to deal with on towns side

01:36

Hmm, what if I got guardian

I think we need to push to get a win on polls

(Unlikely)

01:36

Yeah, agreed

01:36

Which is why we need Jay.

01:37

Okay, g2g.

01:37

Be back later

cya

01:37

I'll be asleep

01:37

I guess

01:37

Well actually I have a meeting before phase change

01:37

So I'll be awake

01:37

And suffering

Nice!! I’ll harass you when I’m off work then

01:48

In 4 hours.

i am going to sleep now

Hey yall. Imma be working tomorrow early, so maybe log a person to check for tomorrow incase I’m in a rush.

05:39

This is the list that Jay knows about, so I prolly need to stay on those people.

05:39

Left to kill Mato ~~Heist~~ Fish Vera Mat (edited)

Fuck It we're killing the mayor

we are?

Simon Elliot

Fuck It we're killing the mayor

why are we

11:39

whats up

I think huck may be right about guardian

11:40

And getting rid of val isn't even that good

i didnt really wanna hit val

Because they can just immediately elect another reporter

my votes on arch RN

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i dont see much reason to kill mayor

11:42

it throws sus on our bloody butcher

11:43

also im asking a question about them tonight

11:43

"Is phantom the bloody butcher?" (edited)

11:43

5 dead, 2 evils 3 towns

11:43

ill probably say something like 4 yes 1 no or the inverse of that with 4 no 1 yes

11:43

or actually

11:44

ill say 3 / 1 or 2 / 1 cause i doubt theyd all vote

There's no reason to kill arch

11:44

The reason to kill mayor is to avoid guardiam

oh yeah it does cause a re-election huh

11:44

i forgot it isnt like a looping back around thing

11:44

like mayor reporter guardian mayor

11:45

mm

11:45

is throwing some sus on fed worth the guardian being gone?

11:45

i mean

11:45

its still a 1 for 1

11:45

im down to kill mayor

Arch: If i and dummo both die somehow, lynch Jay (obvious fox), and Huck (suspicious claim) you own this cc

I think it may be the best move

11:46

I'm not super confident

i didnt even think of it as an option initially cause i thought it was a loop order

11:46

didnt think itd go back to mayor

they trust me

11:46

they think huck is sus

oh well

Also killing mayor avoids two lynches tomorrow

11:46

I think?

that makes it even better to kill mayor

11:46

im down

Does it work that way?

IDK but if so thats even BETTER

11:46

so imma change it to phantom

Mayor [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Mayor can post in #story_time. When there are 15 or less living players, the Mayor receives an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, each night the Mayor instead chooses whether a second lynch will take place during the next day.

Details

The Mayor's extra vote cannot be nullified, stolen, or removed under any circumstances. If the Mayor would normally have a negative vote, the extra vote becomes a negative vote too. The Mayor may choose to resign at any point during a phase, but will only lose the role at the end of the phase. Choosing a double lynch is an immediate action. If the number of living players becomes 15 or less, the Mayor immediately gains the extra vote and loses the ability to choose whether there is an additional lynch. If this happens after they have chosen to have an additional lynch, but before the lynch poll occurs, the additional poll will still be created. The Mayor gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Mayors.

it also wastes my question

11:47

which is fine cause im a wolf

11:47

Fuck

11:47

It doesn't

yea 2 lynch decision is immediate

The mayor chooses at night

RIP

11:47

either way its good imo

11:47

do we lose huck this day?

11:48

also vote on the pack poll

11:48

i know i have 2 votes but it makes me anxious it will tie even though it wont

who do we vote

Horace Gardner

who do we vote

phantom IMO

11:49

i like the phantom kill

NO

what why NO

That will narrow it down

11:49

they are starting to sus phantom

i see

11:49

hmmm

11:50

my thinking is it puts you in a 1 for 1 and they trust you but

Well we can't let town have all three elected roles

if theyre sussing phantom thats good

Attacking arch is worthless

i kinda wanna hit into the randoms ngl

We should attack a potential apothecary, val, or phantom

fish for apothecary

11:50

methinks

11:51

because i want town numbers to go on a downwards trend and at least we get someone dead

11:51

but if we hit medium im cooked and my info could uncook phantom

11:51

which could be bad

11:51

so IDK

At least one of us is cooked either way

yeah but if i get cooked it could possibly uncook phantom if they dont inform me im cooked

11:52

cause ill give info sussing him

11:52

but im still down

11:53

we have 8 minutes

11:53

who do we hit gamers

@Horace Gardner do you really believe they suspect phantom over you

yeah thats my question

Invinci

11:54

I think invinci works?

that works for me

11:55

its in the group and you have sus of them aye?

I think he may be apothecary

11:55

I thought it could be mato but I'm leaning invinci

11:55

He could also be cit idk

11:56

But if fed really wants phantom alive

11:56

And we can't deal with val rn

11:56

We do this

11:56

I still have a major issue with val and it's that he's not getting death doomed ever

yeah, i think i personally like the phantom kill the most but fed wants him alive so

Which means we'll have to lynch him

Simon Elliot

Which means we'll have to lynch him

or bring him to the end, lol, lmao

Invinci just got hit by our absolutely unhinged decision making procedures

this is true

Simon Elliot

@Horace Gardner do you really believe they suspect phantom over you

Arch has been msging me

invinci came to me in a dream

Horace Gardner

Arch has been msging me

Well my guess is they are trying to get a read on you

youre the only "butcher" i leaned to trust, do you have any other reads?

i had a prophetic vision laying in bed, thinking of who to kill

11:59

a solitary roll of toilet paper

11:59

and BLOOD

They know they don't have any way to tell butchers apart anymore

they have me!!!

So they are working to decide who to lynch out of the three of you

Simon Elliot

Well my guess is they are trying to get a read on you

yea ik

and whoever the other medium claim is

12:00

i imagine we are both gonna be asking the same question

12:00

so i have to give a realistic answer, lol

12:00

an especially realistic

12:00

im again thinking liiike

12:00

3 yes and 1 no

Swurtle died

So Jay was telling the truth

its swurtover

12:01

seems so

And for some fucking reason doomed swurtle

12:01

Like

12:01

Why

wild!

12:01

and now mat, then

Why would you ever do this

since it seems jay is truthful

12:01

very strange doomings

12:01

why mat of all people?

Horsemen don't need to doom unaligned even if they aren't on their team

Fred Fischer

why mat of all people?

It's ok "huck's psychopath list"

12:02

Possibly a lie

i see i see

12:03

i dont like current happenings....

Render got doomed

"im inclined to trust you more bc everyone i sussed pointed fingers at you" - arch

woooo

12:16

anyways im going to sleep goodnight wolf/fox friends

gn

gn gn gn

ugh its phantom isnt it

wow, horrible!

Invinci was medium and we blew Fish's cover

13:06

unlucky

13:06

We should have gone for phantom

@Mr. Mark Waite sell jay out

I am pushing arch to lynch jay

Bruh. I don’t have time today for this

Imma check Mato.

15:40

@Participant Mato apoth!

Mr. Mark Waite

Bruh. I don’t have time today for this

Are u here

15:42

Do you own the chat with jay

I do.

15:42

Imma wait a bit to sell him out.

Ok can you add me to it

Not yet

15:43

I’ll do it later.

15:43

I’ve got a plan

You are not getting out of this bro im sorry

15:43

15:44

We can save fish tho

Wth? Why do you think that?

15:48

Cuz Jay seems more psycho than me?

15:48

How did I get found? I don’t get what happened.

15:48

Unless psycho is dead, there is Defo a way out of this.

Mr. Mark Waite

How did I get found? I don’t get what happened.

You messed up the role

How?

15:50

Tell me.

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1239184766817931294/1240256695167619206

Psychopath [Unaligned Investigative]

Basics

At the start of the game, the Psychopath is given a list with one third of the game's players, rounded up, on it. If all players on the list are dead, and the Psychopath is still alive, the Psychopath wins.

Details

When the Psychopath wins, the Psychopath ascends and stops playing. The game continues. The Psychopath can’t win when they are dead. The Psychopath's list will always contain at least one player from every team that has at least two players. Which players are on the list is determined arbitrarily. The Psychopath may strongly disguise themself as any role. The disguise is applied immediately. They can update this disguise once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Psychopath wants to. If the Psychopath changes role, the disguise is lost. Additionally, the Psychopath may choose to either investigate or weakly disguise a player each day, but not both. Their investigation is affected by all disguises and redirections. Their disguise lasts for the current and following phase. The Psychopath is nonaligned.

Jay told me it’s cuz I said night. But like, I told dummo all things are day. Then I was at work trying to give arch info, so I just autopiloted it as night actions cuz I was busy, didn’t have time to think

15:58

Foxes actions are day too, so like… I know my stuff happens in the day.

I think I got out of it

16:09

Maybe

16:10

The slip up was cleared up.

16:10

Also, Jay is proposing a team up to outvote town in the vote.

16:10

But that’s risky.

16:10

And I think we may not have the votes.

16:10

But he wants to save me lol

@Mr. Mark Waite show the cc ahhh

I mean, that’s not gonna do much. Ddd claiming hooker is like… unreversable. And fish is confirmed scum.

16:18

Showing the cc does nothing for us.

16:19

Need to choose the spot to show it. Now isn’t a great time

Hey, so Jay and his other horse are proposing a vote flip. May be able to save fish and ddd if we go with Jay on it.

16:27

But it would be risky cuz it would out the pack.

16:27

But if we had numbers.

Mr. Mark Waite

Hey, so Jay and his other horse are proposing a vote flip. May be able to save fish and ddd if we go with Jay on it.

No

No?

16:36

Not even going to consider it?

Yea

16:37

Jay knows he is dead

Jay said he would doom fish tonight if we hit arch and Mato with the lynch

16:37

Which like, saves both our wolves.

Fish is with us

Yeah but, then we kill Jay tonight.

Doom still goes through

It’s better than losing 2 wolves today.

16:38

We wouldn’t lose fish until tomorrow night

16:38

Vs today + ddd

We can lose jay instead

16:39

If you just added arch to the cc

Not yet, it’s not the time for that, it would be out of place.

16:39

Cuz he’s not going to lynch Jay.

16:40

But like, if we flip the votes, we can get 2 town reps out.

16:40

Then not have to worry about arch’s prots

16:45

Bro, it’s OS, live a little

That is why you should add arch to the cc

at least we are losing in a comical way

If I sell out Jay we can’t do a snipe.

16:55

But with Jay and his other horse we could do a snipe flip

We cant do a snipe regardless

It’s weird, seems like Jay is the only one claiming psycho?

22:15

Where is the other one?

Probably vera?

Hmm. So can’t kill Vera for now then.

22:19

Copy that.

22:20

Maybe though, if Vera is talking to arch right now about being the psycho. You guys can like… side with Vera subtlety to make them seem like the fox?

22:20

Or something like that?

Vera is either psycho or horseman

22:20

So no point in killing them either way

Yeah true, I did get the HOF reading in them

oh right

22:21

Probably hof then but possibly hof doomed or pssycho disguise

But like, they explained their way out of that, so idk.

22:21

But that was to Val. Which may have been easier to do if Val wasn’t really paying attention

22:21

But I trust arch will be able to cut through the BS

Yeah, Vera has to be the hof. For jumping to jays defence

22:39

But like, also, Vera and Ts are on my list, and Jay hasn’t red flagged that. So like… I also wonder if Vera isn’t a horse

22:39

I’m so confused by that.

Yo! As the votes stand rn. We could get a flip with Jay! We would need ddd and fish to both vote!

Dummo has 2 votes

But we could muscle rn if the others are afk.

22:52

Lemme maths

Not dummo

22:52

Phan

Town has 6 rn (with phan) We could get Jay and maybe the other horse 2 Then uhh. 6 of us.

22:53

Makes 8

22:54

(They have 6 excluding the wolf votes)

22:54

And even if the other horse doesn’t vote, we could outvote town still

Its never gonna work but good luck

Well, not good luck, I need this group to agree to try it if I can get Jay on board

22:57

If you don’t agree then there’s no point.

If you can get others i will join in

Uh

22:58

If we can get no guardian it may work

22:58

Unlikely but possibly

22:59

Because no guardian we kill mato

@Participant Who’s into the idea of a flip if I can get Jay on board?

23:11

Fish and ddd, we need you to confirm this though, otherwise it won’t work.

23:12

Aka, need to be online at phase change.

23:12

We can get at least 7-6 for us if everything flips right.

23:12

And votes stay the same

23:12

I mean, besides our wolves that is.

I forgot this chat existed

23:14

Oh this is where you guys pinned the list to

holy shit

23:15

i finally pay attention to this game and i see my wolves are getting voted

23:15

what the hell happened

Ddd is dumb explains one poll

wait did ddd fucked up or smth

He claimed hooker today

So if we get ddd and fish to vote. We may be able to flip the votes

wait how we are only 6

Poll 1 - Val. (Dummo)

Poll 2 - arch

@Fred Fischer @Mr. Robert Elliot Might as well put that vote in now since you’re both cooked (edited)

i mean if it makes our wolfs both live then i am down for it

Yeah, fr

23:23

Just need Jay if fish and ddd do what I said

did we hit medium?

23:25

why am i cooked

Yes we did

its over

23:26

1/5 chance

Vote val and arch

reputation destroyed

23:26

sure thing

23:26

wait why

23:26

in lynch polls?

Mr. Mark Waite

Poll 1 - Val. (Dummo)

Poll 2 - arch

@Fred Fischer @Mr. Robert Elliot Might as well put that vote in now since you’re both cooked (edited)

Follow what huck said

23:26

Yea

ok

23:27

@Mr. Mark Waite fvro i just woke up[ what are you yapping about in the fake CC

Lmao, just a pp trying to convince a wolf to help pp win.

23:28

RPing

yeah but whta should i say

23:28

I NEED TO BABYSIT

23:28

THE KITTEN

23:28

I DIDNT KNOW ID HAVE

I don’t know, what would you say in that situation.

23:28

You can also just leave it blank

why am i voting val/arch btw

It’s just there so if someone asks to see our cc, it’s there as evidence that I’m trying to get wolves on the pp side

23:29

Backs up my pp

Jay is still voting for the lynches

23:30

Why

Well, I’m talking with him now about it.

23:34

Need to see ddd on that poll first.

im so sad we hit medium

23:35

Jay said "we will remove ours"

23:35

And vera isnt voting

hello wook chat

23:35

what are we doing

Remove your lynch vote

23:36

We sniping

are we doing something about guardian?

23:36

this only really works for us if we do, right?

23:37

otherwise we get cooked by apothecary

i mean if we snipe everything else may as well snipe guardian too

We should

okay but who?

Make me guardian

someone outed already

23:38

like me or DDD

23:38

well i guess we will all be outed

Horace Gardner

Make me guardian

DOUBLE BUTCHER ELECTED WOOOO

Jay said dont bother with dummo

23:38

@Fred Fischer

23:38

Switch to mato

ok

On 1

val is getting death doomed I guess

23:39

actually no

@Mr. Robert Elliot We need you buddy.

Mat is

It's just that horses don't need to doom val

23:39

Because he's already doomed

23:39

Careful with that because we don't know how close they are to a win

SWITCH TO MATO ON 1 Arch on 2 Federick guardian

well we do kinda need to follow jay to have a chance at this so

Jay will hit fish tonight. It’s part of my cover, but that’s okay cuz we will have majority of this flip works

oh i dont really mind that

Horace Gardner

SWITCH TO MATO ON 1 Arch on 2 Federick guardian

No, get Val out

23:40

Reporter is more harmful

Mr. Mark Waite

No, get Val out

we probs cant without jay's vote, no?

And Val and arch gone, no town lead.

Fred Fischer

we probs cant without jay's vote, no?

Correct

Jay said huck can be guardian

Mr. Mark Waite

No, get Val out

Jay said mato

Alr, uhhh, fine?

23:41

That’s good for us I guess

Simon Elliot

Careful with that because we don't know how close they are to a win

^

yeah i agree suso but

Val is doomed, that's why they won't lynch him

we cant really go for val without jay's vote

They don’t win by dooming everyone, they just go apo.

23:42

We can kill Jay tonight

yeah

And I guess town lead doesn’t matter if the town if nuked

23:42

So yeah, Mato then.

23:42

Need ddd though! Wtf

Dummo is death doomed

Yeah, Jay did that last night, I forgot

@Mr. Robert Elliot mato on 1

so we hit it at :59? (edited)

We already are

23:44

Idk why

oh so should i just vote mato

23:44

and arch

Yea

23:45

You forgot mato

we kinda really need DDD's vote

@Mr. Robert Elliot

23:46

@Mr. Robert Elliot

@Mr. Robert Elliot

Do I need to vote or should I not?

You wait last minute i guess

@Mr. Robert Elliot

23:46

pinged

23:46

NERD

Mato on 1

23:47

@Mr. Nicolas Marsh you too

i already am?

thanks DDD bestie

Does tanning anyone right now serve a purpose?

No

Mr. Robert Elliot

Does tanning anyone right now serve a purpose?

not really just tan mato as howling wolf

i mean its still 7-5

23:48

that was a joke but you COULD tan someone maybe IDK

where is jay and huck

i dont think itll HELP much

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

where is jay and huck

i think theyre doing it late

@Mr. Mark Waite fun fact I tanned you as clairvoyant Fox night one

okay i see

Mr. Robert Elliot

@Mr. Mark Waite fun fact I tanned you as clairvoyant Fox night one

Lmao, nice!

23:49

Put myself as a skin on my skin

23:49

I’ve done my vote.

I tanned three different people as clairvoyant Fox this game

Suso dont forget

I am here

My son that looks like a tadpole

We're missing one horseman, aren't we?

They gonna vote soon probably

meh, guess I'm doing it now

23:51

It's not a big deal

Vote huck too

hey we're missing ddd in guardian

23:52

And jay in second lynch

@Mr. Robert Elliot huck on guardian

23:54

Wait mayor does not count as 2

OH

23:54

RIGHT

23:54

MAYOR >15

23:55

someone voted on mato for a moment

23:55

and got it to 8

23:55

then removed the vote

23:55

I think it was the other horseman

23:55

I missed who tho

Mayor [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Mayor can post in #story_time. When there are 15 or less living players, the Mayor receives an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, each night the Mayor instead chooses whether a second lynch will take place during the next day.

Details

The Mayor's extra vote cannot be nullified, stolen, or removed under any circumstances. If the Mayor would normally have a negative vote, the extra vote becomes a negative vote too. The Mayor may choose to resign at any point during a phase, but will only lose the role at the end of the phase. Choosing a double lynch is an immediate action. If the number of living players becomes 15 or less, the Mayor immediately gains the extra vote and loses the ability to choose whether there is an additional lynch. If this happens after they have chosen to have an additional lynch, but before the lynch poll occurs, the additional poll will still be created. The Mayor gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Mayors.

lmao

23:56

this is hilarious

Its vera

ok vera is the other horse

Shocking

my reads for vera and mato were right all along

23:56

I shouldn't have second guessedd myself with the kill

23:57

would have made things so much easier

23:57

ok so

23:57

I am remaining hidden

23:57

Because if mat dies

23:57

And I don't die

23:57

I can publicly claim town lead

I have info to share after the vote.

which is funny

Stay tuned

after the vote?

23:57

huck??

23:58

Watch him actually be psychopath hijacking fox somehow

23:59

they switched to ddd

23:59

on one of the lynches

23:59

can't do much about it

They removed votes

wait ddd died??

yeah horses switched two votes last second

00:01

Then removed one and we could have tied but the poll closed immediately

bruhh

I mispresses, I put it back on, I thought I fucked up then realized I didn’t.

ok huck what was this information

Alr, so… to keep my cover, imma protect Jay tonight, kill Vera .

No

Yeah

00:02

Then we can lynch Jay tomorrow night

Why do you need to protect jsy

no need to protect jay, we aren't attacking jay

00:02

No one else can

Do you even need a cover

no need to protect jay

just tell jay you're protecting them, it doesn't matter

so did DDD die on purpose from horses or accident

Guardian [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Guardian protects the town. When there are 15 or fewer players, the Guardian may choose one player. This player cannot be killed by attacks during the current night. When there are more than 15 players, they may choose up to two.

Details

The Guardian chooses their protected player(s) during the night, and they will be protected from attacks during the current night. They may not protect a player who was protected by a Guardian in the previous night, but may protect themself and/or alternate between two or more players. Any attack against a player protected by the Guardian fails, however a protected player may still die through other means. The Guardian is elected on the first full day with a living Mayor, a living Reporter and no living Guardian. Protecting players from attacks is an immediate effect. The Guardian may resign at the end of any phase. The Guardian gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Guardians.

Ok, we only get one prot

00:10

It doesn't actually matter, right?

00:10

There's no interaction that isn't caused by us that can

00:10

OH

00:10

HUNTRESS

00:10

If mat decides that actually it's a bad idea to target me

00:10

We need to prot her most likely target

probs safest to protect you

I am scared wolf

00:11

I need no protection

right

00:11

me or DDD then IMO

00:11

since we were the lynch targets

00:11

well DDD is fucking Dead Dead Dead

00:11

so me i guess

yeah you is a fair bet I think

00:12

We need to cover up the huntress reveal

@Mr. Mark Waite protect me bestie

So who you killing?

IDK uhh

00:12

just protect me at the very least

00:12

then for killssss

I’m protecting Jay I think. Cuz off season and I wanna keep my cover up for as long as possible.

Mr. Mark Waite

I’m protecting Jay I think. Cuz off season and I wanna keep my cover up for as long as possible.

but

Protect suso dude

theres no indication jay is being protected to jay

Does prot keep from death doom?

why would you portect jay

00:13

protect

00:13

you can just SAY youre protecting jay

let's kill arch(?)

you dont need to actually do it

Oh, I guess you’re right, just don’t protect Jay and then attack him tomorrow.

Mr. Mark Waite

Does prot keep from death doom?

@Host

jay wont die

That works.

Horace Gardner

Protect suso dude

I AM RUNNER

yeah

00:14

protect me

00:14

im the best target for protection IMO

Mr. Mark Waite

I’m protecting Jay I think. Cuz off season and I wanna keep my cover up for as long as possible.

huck.

because i was one of the lynches

Jay

00:14

Can't tell

00:14

If you protect them

00:14

Or not

Simon Elliot

I AM RUNNER

I know

Tell jay you protected them

00:14

And protect Fish

Yeah, okay, I’ll protect whoever, just don’t attack Jay

We are the only ones with night attacks

00:14

And we aren't attacking jay

Mr. Mark Waite

Yeah, okay, I’ll protect whoever, just don’t attack Jay

sure thing bestie

We're attacking arch most likely

phan is better i think

yeah i mean, there arent really any high priority targets left

00:15

i like phantom cause mayor will be gone

Yeah, phan is good, cuz votes

Horace Gardner

phan is better i think

Ok let's do that

*uses my ability to kill huck

00:15

*for protecting jay

Horace Gardner

@Host

nope

I will protect uhhh…. Fuck, it doesn’t matter.

Mr. Mark Waite

I will protect uhhh…. Fuck, it doesn’t matter.

ME!!

00:16

because i was the lynch target

Simon Elliot

I AM RUNNER

If everyone is doomed and they attack you you get to survive twice

Sure, wtv

so im kinda the most obvious huntress hit

Oh right, huntress

00:16

Uhhh…. Well, attack phan

Mat is targetting suso

we are but mat (huntress) is dying

Horace Gardner

Mat is targetting suso

suso is scared wolf

00:16

Scared Wolf [Werewolf Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Scared Wolf will be protected from the first night attack to target them.

Details

If it is attacked by anyone at night, it will escape unharmed the first time. The Scared Wolf is informed that they were attacked. After being attacked once, it will lose its ability.

I know

I am not doomed for once

00:17

I don't know who else isn't doomed

00:17

But I doubt they'd attack me

00:17

They know huntress is targeting me and they don't know what kind of wolf I am

00:18

Best to protect fish

im also not doomed

Gets us more coverage

yeah

Yea he is Fred

00:18

Protect Fred

they call me fred (fisher)

Im sure they do

@Mr. Mark Waite you can tell jay you're protecting them. We're attacking Phantom. I think it's best if you protect fish

00:19

I'll get attacked once tonight but it doesn't matter

00:20

Fed has a point that my attack is way more likely but in case Mat switched this seems safer

yeah, i agree and this feels best (edited)

Ill prob get targetted over fish lol

IDK, why you?

00:21

i feel im the second most likely cause i was the lynch target that got flipped

Horace Gardner

Ill prob get targetted over fish lol

Protecting you also works

Nah prot fred

00:22

He deserves it

The only reason I'd see you being a more likely target is meta tbh

i mean yeah anyone on wolf team that isnt suso is a good protection IMO but im just thinking im more likely

Not nick

00:22

Nick has the superpower of being forgotten

very epic

00:23

Our role list is almost 100% complete

00:23

Our only unknowns are public inactives

00:23

One of them is cit and the other the real psycho

Sharl is psycho i think

oh

00:24

Then just two cits

00:24

That would make sense

He contacted me

00:24

Idk anything else

ok we should probably keep track of dooms

I am doomed

00:28

Render too

00:28

Phan too

supposedly val is

Doom: Fed, Render, Phantom, Huck, Val, Mat Not doomed: Fish, Suso ???: Shine, Wolfie, Sharl, Arch, Nick (edited)

1

val says he knew i was fake immediately because my questions were trash

00:29

little does he know i wouldve asked them as town anyways...

Fred Fischer

val says he knew i was fake immediately because my questions were trash

pff

00:29

he didn't

00:30

he knew you were fake because we chose our kill unwisely

this is true

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 16-5-2024 00:30

i think arch trusted me at least a bit earlier on

00:30

arch was talking about digesting my questions

00:30

lol

Simon Elliot

Fed has a point that my attack is way more likely but in case Mat switched this seems safer

Okay, prot fish it is

If arch died i would have been the new lead lol

Horace Gardner

If arch died i would have been the new lead lol

Damn!

That’s unfortunate.

00:31

Also, uhhh…. Are we sure we want phan and not Vera?

00:31

What if they get to apoc? They’ll be hard to stop.

The doom list isn't looking too hot

00:32

Only two confirmed undoomeds

❗ Could not find role apocalypse. Did you mean apocalyptic horseman (aka Apocalyptic)?

00:32

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

Mr. Mark Waite

What if they get to apoc? They’ll be hard to stop.

ugh

We have guardian now

00:33

Jay thought you were definitely psychopath

Yeah but that’s like… not super helpful cuz there would be 2 apoc horses

If they get apoc it starts next night

00:33

We can lynch tomorrow a horseman with town

00:33

Because town knows doom bad

00:33

I think

00:33

I hope

❗ Could not find role team horsemen. Did you mean solo team horsemen?

00:33

Horsemen Team

The Horsemen win when all players are either dead, unaligned or part of the Horsemen team. Members of the Horsemen Team do not know each other at the start of the game. Roles ApocalypticHorseman

ApocalypticHorseman

Apocalyptic Horseman (T)

Horseman

Horseman

HorsemanofDeath

Horseman of Death HorsemanofFamine

HorsemanofFamine

Horseman of Famine HorsemanofPestilence

HorsemanofPestilence

Horseman of Pestilence HorsemanofWar

HorsemanofWar

Horseman of War Formalized Win Condition: @(Alignment:Horsemen), @(Class:Unaligned)

Naw, just think about being town. You don’t want wolves to win and would rather see horse get a win for once

Horseman [Solo Miscellaneous - Horsemen Team]

Basics

At the end of Day 0, the Horseman becomes one of the other Horseman roles.

Details

The Horseman can not immediately become an Apocalyptic Horseman. Each Horseman can doom one or several player(s) every night, the effect and amount of which depends on the type of Horseman. For more information, check $i doom. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Mr. Mark Waite

Naw, just think about being town. You don’t want wolves to win and would rather see horse get a win for once

if you're insane in the head yes

Horace Gardner

Jay thought you were definitely psychopath

I think he still does?

Not lynching horses minimizes your chances of winning

Mr. Mark Waite

I think he still does?

I dont think so

Doom | Additional Info - Horseman Team

Dooming a player is an immediate effect. Each Horseman type will apply a different effect when dooming. When a Horseman attempts to doom another Horseman, it fails: the two Horsemen unite, joining a shared channel. Doomed players are informed that they have been doomed, but not which Horseman doomed them. Doomed players can be doomed again by the same or a different Horseman. Dooming and its accompanying effect will immediately disappear when no Horsemen remain. When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed: Each living Horseman turns into an Apocalyptic Horseman, with the ability to attack a player each night.

He told me you’re ranting to him about me and said he doesn’t believe you lmao

00:35

But he could just be saying that. Idk

Lmao

00:35

Yea

hmmm

00:35

let's see here

00:35

Doom is night immediate

00:35

So we can choose to kill vera

00:35

If fish or me get doomed tonight

I think getting Vera is our best bet, but that’s all I’ll say, you do what you think is best.

If we don't, we kill phantom

Who is HoD

that sounds good to me

00:36

jay

Jay

Horace Gardner

Who is HoD

Jay extremely likely

So why vera and not jay

who is jay dooming tonight

00:36

if jay is dooming someone that isnt us its good let them die

Horace Gardner

So why vera and not jay

Huck is pretending to side with jay

Horace Gardner

So why vera and not jay

Need it to look like I protected Jay

also that yeah

Oh that

Then tomorrow I can’t protect Jay (if I protect tonight)

we wont die till a day after and we can kill jay to protect us anyways right?

00:37

like if jay dooms me tonight and we kill jay tomorrow night im safe?

I think if all horses are dead the doom doesn’t happen… right?

Fred Fischer

we wont die till a day after and we can kill jay to protect us anyways right?

yes

Mr. Mark Waite

I think if all horses are dead the doom doesn’t happen… right?

exactly

Town still has more people tho

the doom effect goes away immediately when the horseman team loses

00:38

Mat dies end of night tonight

Ah right

I think jay is dooming one of us

Yeah, but horses won’t vote with us tomorrow anyways, so why not just go for a horse and then wtv. Lol

Let's calculate this properly

Was horseman team really Ts Vera and Jay

Yes, OP

Good randomiser

just goes to show how shit horses are

00:40

Get the bests on that team and they still can’t win.

Tomorrow as is:

6+1 Town, 5 wolves, 2 horsemen

Tomorrow, phantom kill:

5 Town, 5 wolves, 2 horsemen

Tomorrow, vera kill:

6+1 Town, 5 wolves, 1 horsemen (edited)

00:41

Best way to get a horseman lynch is to have two horsemen because that makes them scarier

Oh wait

00:41

I think they will target me over you guys

00:42

Cuz they know im not scared wolf

00:42

I just realised

oh yeah true

00:42

id believe that

@Mr. Mark Waite

Hi

Prot me

Too late, already did fish

its fedrover

00:43

its fine probably

00:43

surely

Cuz I was told to

he was following orders your honor

Is the action immediate?

Guardian [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Guardian protects the town. When there are 15 or fewer players, the Guardian may choose one player. This player cannot be killed by attacks during the current night. When there are more than 15 players, they may choose up to two.

Details

The Guardian chooses their protected player(s) during the night, and they will be protected from attacks during the current night. They may not protect a player who was protected by a Guardian in the previous night, but may protect themself and/or alternate between two or more players. Any attack against a player protected by the Guardian fails, however a protected player may still die through other means. The Guardian is elected on the first full day with a living Mayor, a living Reporter and no living Guardian. Protecting players from attacks is an immediate effect. The Guardian may resign at the end of any phase. The Guardian gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Guardians.

Ask idk

00:44

I think it is

doesnt look like it?

Guardian [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Guardian protects the town. When there are 15 or fewer players, the Guardian may choose one player. This player cannot be killed by attacks during the current night. When there are more than 15 players, they may choose up to two.

Details

The Guardian chooses their protected player(s) during the night, and they will be protected from attacks during the current night. They may not protect a player who was protected by a Guardian in the previous night, but may protect themself and/or alternate between two or more players. Any attack against a player protected by the Guardian fails, however a protected player may still die through other means. The Guardian is elected on the first full day with a living Mayor, a living Reporter and no living Guardian. Protecting players from attacks is an immediate effect. The Guardian may resign at the end of any phase. The Guardian gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Guardians.

Bot died

i just did that

00:44

Wait, are we less than 15 or more?

15 exactly

Ah, bummer

Didnt load

Who the fuck is the last psycho?

00:45

What have they been doing?

This doesn't say it's immediate

00:45

Ask hosts to change to fed

Confirm?

fine with me

if they tell you you can't we cry

if i die im haunting you though

Alr, I’ll try to switch

Mr. Mark Waite

Who the fuck is the last psycho?

Probably sharl

Lmao, I completely forgot sharl was even playing.

00:55

Pops in, asks for a tldr. Then leaves

00:56

Perfect for my fake claim.

So Val should die tonight via Jay last night, And who are you guys hitting again tonight?

07:24

I just wanna crunch numbers.

arch

07:25

town will be in shambles

07:25

i mean

07:25

phantom

07:25

wrong name

Oh… hmm… maybe arch would be better (might be too late)

07:25

Cuz there shouldn’t be anyone to lead town.

its never too late im alpha wolf i can redirect it solo

07:26

but either way i like removing mayor

Mayor gone is good, but I feel like there’s still unsurity with phan perhaps being bb

IDK, he didnt vote with us or anything

07:26

in our flip

07:26

while fed did

Arch alive means Defo town lead and some direction provided by arch.

i dont think thats that unsure

Oh true

07:27

Yeah, that’s fair

07:27

Forgot about that

actually how did the vote not tie wtf

Mayor [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Mayor can post in #story_time. When there are 15 or less living players, the Mayor receives an extra vote in polls. When there are more than 15 living players, each night the Mayor instead chooses whether a second lynch will take place during the next day.

Details

The Mayor's extra vote cannot be nullified, stolen, or removed under any circumstances. If the Mayor would normally have a negative vote, the extra vote becomes a negative vote too. The Mayor may choose to resign at any point during a phase, but will only lose the role at the end of the phase. Choosing a double lynch is an immediate action. If the number of living players becomes 15 or less, the Mayor immediately gains the extra vote and loses the ability to choose whether there is an additional lynch. If this happens after they have chosen to have an additional lynch, but before the lynch poll occurs, the additional poll will still be created. The Mayor gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Mayors.

oh 15 or less

We’re pretty exposed. I may still be able to stay on pp ctc.

whew

07:27

that vote wouldve been tied

Hmmm…. Alr, lemme crunch numbers for a sec

Alive Players | Total: 15

- im_dumm0 (@Rev. Victor Pittman)

‍

- matstress (@Mrs. Iva Marsh)

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman)

️ - phantomtomic (@Master Charles Gilman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- shapechange (@Mayor Joseph Cooper)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- jeand.arch (@Lawrence Cain)

- federick (@Horace Gardner)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

Simon Elliot

Tomorrow as is:

6+1 Town, 5 wolves, 2 horsemen

Tomorrow, phantom kill:

5 Town, 5 wolves, 2 horsemen

Tomorrow, vera kill:

6+1 Town, 5 wolves, 1 horsemen (edited)

@Mr. Mark Waite suso made this

now 6 wolves. 6 town 2 horse 1 ua Tomorrow 6 wolves 4 town 2 horse 1 ua

07:29

^^ that’s provided Val does die, which I think he will

we dont have 6 wolves

07:30

Oh, wait, we have… oh 5

yeah DDD got cooked

Damn.

dead dead dead

Right

also why is val dying

07:30

pretty sure mat is dying no?

now 5 wolves. 7 town 2 horse 1 ua Tomorrow 5 wolves 5 town 2 horse 1 ua

07:31

Oh… uhhh… I thought Val got doomed, lemme read back. I may just be dumb.

07:31

One sec

07:32

the reason we were discussing guardian targets is because mat, the huntress, is death doomed @Mr. Mark Waite

07:32

last we checked, anyways

I don’t think jays getting mat? Idk… from what I could find, he seemed to say that that will happen naturally?

07:50

But, idk

07:51

Oh… wait

07:51

No, nm lol

07:51

Jay was gonna death you (fish) last night, but he changed his mind.

07:52

I guess mat is maybe the target. Knowing that mat would take down a wolf with her. Would make sense.

07:52

Keeps numbers even and gets more people gone for the dooming

07:52

So yeah, I could see that logic…. Prolly mat dying.

Hmm… maybe you could approach sharl now and ask him who’s still on his list?

08:12

Cuz depending on who it is, we may be able to get him to vote with us (psycho)

Alright yall. I’ve got a plan that’s never gonna work… you ready?

Mr. Mark Waite

Alright yall. I’ve got a plan that’s never gonna work… you ready?

WUH

Step 1. I need arch to lynch me. Step 2. Try and get Jay to save me (still thinking I’m pp) This is the only way we might be able to get majority on killing a townie lynch

i have cat in lap

10:17

im so happy

Happy cat!

i dont understand the plan

Mr. Mark Waite

Step 1. I need arch to lynch me. Step 2. Try and get Jay to save me (still thinking I’m pp) This is the only way we might be able to get majority on killing a townie lynch

I say this cuz… if arch puts up any wolf, it’s likely that jay will go along with it. But if it’s me, there’s a chance him and Vera may try and save me

10:18

But here’s the thing…. No wolf (vote flippers) can offer me up, cuz it’ll make me look like pp

well you DO have guardian

True

10:19

And that’s dangerous to him. But thing is. They don’t have any night killers. So it’s kind of no consequence to town.

10:20

All they have left is lynch poll

10:20

And I can’t block that.

also true but maybe they want town to get it

Hmm… fair, but when phan goes, I doubt that would be first on the agenda

10:20

But it needs to be.

mm

10:21

mayor has 2 votes so

10:21

IDK

I mean, yeah, but phan will be dead at phase change, so doesn’t matter

ye

Hmm… maybe someone from the pack can say they’ve been feeding me all my info and I’m actually a different type of wolf.

10:23

Or like… make him believe that without directly saying it

10:23

That way, I can tell Jay the wolves are full of shit and framing me. While still having arch convinced that I’m a bigger threat?

10:24

Idk, it’s kind of crazy, but offseason

idk how to say that without saying that ngl

Lmao, yeah…. It’s tricky

"i heard youre in contact with huck..."

Could get in an arguement with arch then gloat about how well the “sneaking wolf” has been duping them. Like, as a cocky little hint.

10:25

Then hope he puts some pieces together to make me sneaking wolf… or whatever

i dont like arguments

It would for sure take some finesse.

10:26

Not arguement… but it’s a perfect job for fed

10:27

Cuz he has already been doing the chaos, and a little “slip up” would be nice here. And I can say to Jay that fed just has it out for me this whole game.

could be funny

I think Jay would understand, and arch might be able to be duped into lynching me

10:28

It might be the only way we can get a town lynch tomorrow.

10:29

@Horace Gardner

10:29

I have a mission for you

Wat

Hi

10:29

Love you

heart_pink_cloud

10:29

Okay…. So… mission.

10:30

I need you to somehow convince arch to lynch me. But like… in a way that’s sneaky

Arch doesnt talk to me anymore

Aka…. I need you to at some point gloat to arch that our <wolf> has been stinging everyone along for ages. That way I can get lynched, and then Jay may take wolves side in the lynch to save me.

10:31

Otherwise, arch will just lynch a wolf and that’ll be it, Jay will likely side with town on that one.

They are lynching confirmed scum rn

10:32

Like fish

Yeah, so arch seems convinced I’m CF. But if I can be a bigger threat in his eyes. Then I can ask for jays help

10:32

And say that arch is on drugs lol

imagine confirming me as scum when i have the best medium questions

Well, I have been tossing you to the perverbial wolves all game (for my ctc)

10:33

But managed to save you at the same time lol

10:33

Which was mostly Jay tbh

WOOOO

10:34

wait why does jay think youre PP when you flipped a vote off a target?

Huh? Wdym?

wasnt i a target

10:34

and you flipped the vote off me?

Jay suggested it, not me

10:35

I went with what he told me to do

i see i see

Cuz he promised to get you later for me

10:35

So in his eyes, I think I’ve been seeming to work with anyone that’ll kill off my list.

10:36

Like, he may be questioning me by now, but even still, wolves have the full list, so like, I’m very expendable if Jay is onto me. But if Jay still thinks I’m pp, then I can still use him. Either way, me being lynched is essential today.

10:37

But town has to decide that one.

10:37

Trickiness

10:40

Anyways, I need to sleep. But like… I don’t know, if I can be lynched in some way, do it. Or a horse. That works too.

10:41

Lynching a horse would actually be ideal. But if no horse lynch, then me.

I have been doomed

its valover

same

Alive Players | Total: 13

‍

- matstress (@Mrs. Iva Marsh)

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- shapechange (@Mayor Joseph Cooper)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- jeand.arch (@Lawrence Cain)

- federick (@Horace Gardner)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

soo do we still have any chances left?

5 wolves 2 horse 1 UA and 5 town

What is up woof chat

12:02

I am not doomed

i am also not doomed

12:03

are we the last two?

We need to lynch a horse

yeah

I think it's doable

Fred Fischer

are we the last two?

It certainly looks it

12:03

Maybe some random town idk

@Simon Elliot were you attacked

12:09

O wait

12:09

Mat didnt die

this is true

Yeah we're ok in that regard

can we maybe get the UA on our side?

12:10

so we can get an extra vote

IDK why everyone is acting like we have won

Fred Fischer

IDK why everyone is acting like we have won

Jay is doing it to avoid getting lynched

14:32

We should be making it look like horsemen won

Helloooo

17:40

Did I miss anything? Or just chatter?

17:41

left 5 wolves 5 town 2 horse 1 ua

i checked sharl.... if he is a psycho, we can maybe get him on our side for votes.

20:15

not like it would make a difference, but like, can always try

20:17

hmm, actually, derp is voting vera for some reason.... maybe we can all jump to vera near phase change?

20:17

if he stays there

20:17

hmm... maybe derp is the psycho?

20:18

actually, imma check derp

20:24

bleh, derp it cit

20:24

should have stayed on sharl

20:25

but, on the off chance, derp stays where he is. maybe we can try a snipe

20:25

might be worth talking to sharl though on the off chance he is psycho.

20:25

i cant do it for obvious reasons

20:26

@Simon Elliot you feel like chatting with sharl?

20:26

see if hes a psycho and maybe persuade him to do a snipe?

20:27

if any town forgets to vote today, we can at least tie. or, if derp forgets to change his vote, we can vote out vera (edited)

20:28

and lastly, jay just sort of implied that theyve gone apo.

@Simon Elliot @Mr. Mark Waite we will need your votes btw

what are we up to

Mr. Mark Waite

@Simon Elliot you feel like chatting with sharl?

I can chat with sharl if you want

20:39

i'm pretending to be town still though

20:40

I'm like the only one i think

well right now the votes on arch

20:40

you can vote late

why am i being voted for mayor lmao

IDK lol

20:41

@Mr. Mark Waite come back bb

20:42

if you and suso last minute vote you can snipe kill arch and mayor suso

20:42

im gonna last minute mayor vote suso

oh right, im dumb.

20:45

i thought

was vera

20:45

but i just checked derp as cit. so he will likely change his vote off

20:45

but we can hope for him to stay there

20:46

i would say though, dont vote until like, the last minute, cuz otherwise arch will ping derp and tell him to move it

20:46

we want things staying calm and forgetful if we have any hopes of a snipe

20:46

oh no, im double dumb

20:46

jesus

20:47

i think voting vera might be better than arch. cuz derp is there rn

20:47

and thats a number we can add onto if he doesnt change it

20:47

also fits for my list really well.

20:47

(vera fish and mat are theoretically the lasts on my list)

20:48

so wouldnt rock any boats if i voted vera

20:48

but voting arch confirms me as fox

20:48

and vera might also be in apoc, so we need to get them out anyways.

Mr. Mark Waite

i would say though, dont vote until like, the last minute, cuz otherwise arch will ping derp and tell him to move it

ye

uhh, @Fred Fischer can you talk to sharl and see if you can get any info about him being the pp

uhh

20:49

suuuure (will be on the bus and then in class)

suso, dont worry about it. if youre unknown to town, keep it that way

Fred Fischer

suuuure (will be on the bus and then in class)

will you be back around phase change?

i get out of class about an hour before

nice

20:50

okay, lets try and snipe vera then

20:50

not arch

20:50

but stay on arch until snipes time

we have vera's vote on arch

20:50

IDK if we can snipe vera

but also, it would help to get sharl on board if they are the pp

Mr. Mark Waite

suso, dont worry about it. if youre unknown to town, keep it that way

Meh, it's easy enough to figure out tbf

Fred Fischer

IDK if we can snipe vera

we can if derp stays there

Alive Players | Total: 13

‍

- matstress (@Mrs. Iva Marsh)

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- shapechange (@Mayor Joseph Cooper)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- jeand.arch (@Lawrence Cain)

- federick (@Horace Gardner)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

Mr. Mark Waite

we can if derp stays there

yeah well we will see at PC, if anything is sketch we have to get arch instead

Simon Elliot

Meh, it's easy enough to figure out tbf

yeah, you were apart of the flip yesterday, so like, they likely know youre wolf

Mr. Mark Waite

yeah, you were apart of the flip yesterday, so like, they likely know youre wolf

Not really

20:52

I didn't vote

20:52

Neither did mat

oh?

But still

oh,

20:52

how do they know mat is huntress then?

They don't

like, why not you?

At least not mechanically

20:53

They probably trust mat more because no one trusts me ever

suso could have saved dead dead dead

20:53

hmm.... i wonder if i can do a little double bluff with arch

Fred Fischer

suso could have saved dead dead dead

Not really

20:53

The horseman switch happened literally within 5s of the poll closing

RIP

And it was two people swinging

like, say that i checked mat as wolf, which makes sense to my list since i only have had 2 wolves on it so far

20:54

so with that logic, mat must be scum

perhaps

meaning, they dont make mat mayor

Mat is on your fake list, right?

yeah

20:56

so i could have checked her today and she came up wolf

It also makes sense that you would lie about her being wolf

20:56

so it works regardless

or even citizen = sneaking wolf.... but like, putting a bit of sus on her.

they most likely won't believe you

20:57

citizen would be funny

yeah, and its not as like.... clear as just saying that she came up wolf.

but it's probably weird

20:57

because why would mat claim huntress as sneaking wolf

20:58

with crowd seeker alive

idk.... claim space?

20:58

lol

20:58

but youre right, sneaking wolf makes more sense just claiming cit

20:58

and i reckon thats just what mat would claim

20:59

she doesnt tend to use crazy strats like some of us lol

Mr. Mark Waite

she doesnt tend to use crazy strats like some of us lol

were my medium questions really that bad

no, i liked your medium stuff

21:00

but you do have crazy strats, which i appreciate

everyone said they knew i was fake because my questions were so shit lmao

lmao, thats malarki.... they knew you were wolf cuz you read as wolf

they call me Mr Wolf

the questions fit your playstyle, so like, they shouldnt be thinking of your questions as a rationale

IDK if people know my play-style or not

21:02

they also think the questions are just bad but IMO they have some merit

21:03

especially on first night with 100% true info if a town is dead, you can reverse engineer the questions pretty good

21:04

i also just have way more fun faking a role that actually does stuff over a role that doesnt, lol

Fred Fischer

everyone said they knew i was fake because my questions were so shit lmao

people like to pretend they already knew when mechanics confirm things

Simon Elliot

people like to pretend they already knew when mechanics confirm things

i mean yeah, they said something like "i dont fully trust you" when i claimed which doesnt really indicate 100% wolfness

well, no one trusts medium claims

21:06

which is why i suggested not claiming it

i mean, fair, i still liked claiming it

yeah, medium is almost always unreliable.

21:14

i tried making a question thats like.... town sided, make votes even if yes, odd on no is so and so scum. but hosts said no to that

21:15

cuz it would mean that town would have to lie in order to get the answer through, and they arent allowed to tell lies

RIP

21:17

thats tragic

this is because you could otherwise do complicated binary transmission schemes

21:17

and answer a lot with less questions

21:17

which is silly

makes sense

that's why only yes/no with no hiddden meaning is allowed

its supposed to be pure yes/no and if you- yeah

21:18

if you can do stuff like that you could have like 5 different answers

21:19

i mean already that makes 4 answers cause both could be even/odd or odd/even then youre left with pain and no info but its technically a new answer

Fred Fischer

i mean already that makes 4 answers cause both could be even/odd or odd/even then youre left with pain and no info but its technically a new answer

no, its still yes no, if even on yes, that means town got it there cuz they removed votes to get it there, if odd on no, town got it there. if it ended up being otherwise, then i know not to trust it.

21:24

it would be a bit of work or the dead, but get more accurate answers

21:25

either way, its not allowed, so wtv

fair fair

but hey, actually, theres nothing stopping me from saying "dont vote if yes, (low vote count = yes) vote on the right answer if no (full vote count)

21:26

hmm

21:26

actually. nm

21:26

that wouldnt work

21:26

cuz scum wouldnt vote to mess with things

21:26

gah, idk, medium is tricky

i mean would the other really work too

21:30

scum can just snipe change the votes

21:30

its like a 50/50 town manage to get the right result

yeah, idk.... thats why medium kind of blows.

21:33

its fun to come up with questions, but not so accurate of an info gatherer

night 1 you get perfect info most games so theres that at least

not true.... if a wolf is in there, they can answer anything they want.

21:34

but... well.... nm, wolves likely attack town

21:34

so yeah

21:34

i guess youre right

most games i said

21:35

and i imagine usually an evil will probably lie if theyre the only dead so its cleared up when reporter appears

@Mr. Mark Waite @Simon Elliot derp moved his vote, we can tie it with us 3 but we cant really beat it, sharl also wont respond to me

21:46

also yoo since my professor hates how many people show up late im getting 5 points on the final for being here on time

21:46

WOOO

WOO!!

sharl is in a bad timezone for night phasechanges

cocksssss

ahh i see

Fred Fischer

WOOO

lmao

sharl needs to be more of a night person

wait derp didnt move his vote he is voting for both

21:47

does that nullify his vote?

i guess with this vote, i expose myself as the Cf

‍♂️

Fred Fischer

does that nullify his vote?

uhhh.... i think so? idk

well either way, when we snipe itll tie and if it DOES nullify then wooo we also kill

21:48

@Host does having 2 votes in different places nullify them

21:48

cause derp is voting vera / fed

but dont tell derp.... thats his own fault.

of course

(saying it to hosts, dont want a host interferance moment)

21:51

wait, no, we would tie it either way.

why would it tie either way?

no, we would tie if.... hmmm.... if his votes cancelled.

nooo?

but if he takes it off of vera then its 6-7

theres 6 votes on it right now

unless we're just missing a vote

we have 3 on arch

21:52

if us 3 vote it becomes 6 / 6

21:52

and if derp nulls it becomes 6 / 5

also, vote to kill vera. not arch

we dont have enough for vera

we do if derps there and they count his original vote

21:53

but i dont know how that works

Mr. Mark Waite

also, vote to kill vera. not arch

jay and vera switch to fed then

IDK i think itd nullify, hosts aremt confirming though lol

21:53

also yeah

21:53

like i said we have horse votes with us on arch

oh wait, im so dum

21:53

nm

we kinda need those

I feel like horsemen may still just lynch us anyway

21:54

but we can't really switch to vera

yeah, vera will defo switch.

yeah

with arch there's still a chance they won't switch

exactly

hmm, i wonder if i can convince jay to move his votes to fish, and just have a low ass vote count?

21:54

or wait.... hmm

jay is a non voter

21:55

jay's voice is not heard

nm, thats dumb

i might be able to convince jay to flip to mat lynch

22:08

which would give us vera too

22:08

fed is death doomed, so would die tonight.

22:08

so like, hes dying one way or another, and keeping the balance is important for him to win

if we kill jay dont we save fed

uhh

22:12

if both horsemen die

22:12

otherwise, nope

oh

22:13

sad

its fine, as long as we get mat at lynch

IDK i feel like we couldve maybe pushed for a horse lynch

if we get mat at lynch, we get vera tonight?

Mr. Mark Waite

if we get mat at lynch, we get vera tonight?

i mean why mat over arch, either or

cuz arch doesnt make sense for my pitch and also, mat doesnt pop off if lynched

22:19

which makes suso safer as a ctc

i mean fair

22:19

if you can push for mat ill follow but IDK if we have full wolves

also, nulifies the mayor.... unless we can get mayor too, but i doubt it

22:20

ill phone the other wolves until they pick up!

22:20

lol

we may be able to snipe suso mayor

22:20

so like

actually, lemme do this

when PC happens we should vote arch / mat and then mayor suso

@Horace Gardner @Mr. Nicolas Marsh please see this and switch your vote to mat for lynch

very epic

okay, crazy idea here.

22:22

mind voting jay for mayor? (then we can snipe off of him)

22:23

hes not going to let wolves get mayor cuz it throws off the balance

22:23

so at least we can give him that (until snipe off)

22:23

actually, no, nm

22:23

dont, that would be too easy and wouldnt make sesne

22:23

just do whatever you want with mayor

if we do jay mayor we have to kill jay at night

yeah, dont worry about it. i want it to seem like i managed to convince fish of taking out mat. but that fish said hell no to mayor jay

22:26

@Fred Fischer if you talk to jay, i asked you to lynch mat and you talked to your pack about it. they agreed.

22:26

also, you told me you will not be doing jay mayor.

22:26

cuz of obvious reasons

Mr. Mark Waite

@Fred Fischer if you talk to jay, i asked you to lynch mat and you talked to your pack about it. they agreed.

ok but we havent been talking

no i know, just telling you in case jay starts talking to you

22:29

shouldnt need to use that, but like. if anyone asks, that was our conversation

Mr. Mark Waite

@Horace Gardner @Mr. Nicolas Marsh please see this and switch your vote to mat for lynch

Rn?

might as well, if we get vera and jay, we have majority

22:33

so no need to snipe

Alright done

Done @Mr. Mark Waite

i love you!

22:41

@Simon Elliot we will need your vote too, but if youre good to snipe, then do that.

yeah i was planning to

22:42

i didn't want to vote early, not really to hide myself because there's not much of a point

22:43

but so town wouldn't get scared by the amount of votes right away (edited)

will you all help me snipe suso mayor

22:43

or is it pointless

22:43

i dont wanna out suso as 100% wolf

uhh... prolly pointless. but could try i guess.

if we dont make suso mayor

22:43

i think itll work at PC

22:44

even if we tie it thats -1 town vote

it would be nice to have that extra vote, but i really doubt jay would come along with that

22:44

but if mat gets mayor, and killed, no mayor

22:44

so its a win regardless.

fair but i feel like we need to kill a honse tonight

yeah, agreed

specifically jay

22:46

yeah, its not a bad idea.

22:47

he is my swing vote, but hes gonna chip away at wolves, and vera cant really do shit, so like.... better to hit jay

Fred Fischer

i dont wanna out suso as 100% wolf

does it matter anymore?

uhh... what are the numbers rn?

22:50

left 5 wolves 5 town 2 horse 1 ua

one of us dies tonight from doom

get mat + jay + fed gone tonight 4 4 1 1

22:51

hmm... well, we could maybe tie a lynch tomorrow?

22:51

if jay flips that is

22:52

otherwise we're cooked

we need to place the mayor votes

22:52

if only to tie the vote

22:52

rn we can tie it

true.

with just us

22:52

and win it if vera doesn't switch

Simon Elliot

does it matter anymore?

not really but i mean no reason to out out you if it has no gain at all

Simon Elliot

if only to tie the vote

ye

what's up with the first lynch, why are our votes split

Fred Fischer

not really but i mean no reason to out out you if it has no gain at all

well I sort of have to out myself for the votes this phase

we kinda need vera to vote mat

22:54

@Mr. Mark Waite isnt that on you

22:54

i still prefer the arch vote cause vera is sitting on it NGL

maybe one of you can ask vera. say that huck pitched a vote flip. could rationalize with them that killing mat will keep the balance.

22:55

i dont want to seem too desperate, so i dont think ill do much more talking about it.

22:55

and vera knows they are on my list, so i doubt that they wanna chat with me

22:55

(my fake list)

i dont get why we arent staying on arch tbh

cuz mat is a better hit

22:56

we just have to work for it a bit

if both arch and mat are on your "list" it doesn't matter

yeah

mat is huntress but like what are they going to do, we know and can do other night targets

22:57

the thing is the mayor vote

Simon Elliot

if both arch and mat are on your "list" it doesn't matter

arch isnt on my list though

but at first glance we tie it even without horsemen

Mr. Mark Waite

arch isnt on my list though

ok then it makes sense for you to push for mat

Simon Elliot

but at first glance we tie it even without horsemen

yeah, but vera is resting on arch vote so its a kill

Fred Fischer

yeah, but vera is resting on arch vote so its a kill

vera will switch last second if they want

we could always have it be a last minute flip again if we want

can't really rely on horseman votes

fair

they are going to be watching to the last second at phase change

would need all wolves here though

22:59

and i wouldnt be the pp anymore

22:59

this move is good for my pp

i am around

but if pp has to go, so be it

i think mat lynch is what you as psychopath need to push for

23:00

you can convince them with the no mayor argument

23:00

and if vera doesn't switch we switch

fair fair

and you switch too and it makes sense

23:00

because as psycho you want to keep the balance

yeah, ive said a bunch of things that make sense, i dont wanna pester into them saying no out of spite though, just have to hope they are talking about it rn

reasonable

welp, vera is on fed now

23:03

but like, fed is death doomed, so doesnt make sense for them to vote fed out.

23:03

DO NOT tell vera that you know fed is death doomed

23:03

under no circumstances.

23:03

would mean im leaking stuff

we know fed is doomedd

23:04

we wouldn't know he's death doomed

23:04

but still

yeah, but you wouldnt know about death

it doesn't make sense for horsemen to kill a doomed player

ye

Mr. Mark Waite

yeah, but you wouldnt know about death

doesn't matter whatsoever

23:05

as long as we know that fed is doomed in any way it's nonsense to lynch him for horsemen

23:05

I mean, they could to make us lose but that would be the only reason

i mean, suso, you seem like the most likely person that they would listen to. is it worth maybe having a little baby chat with them about it?

23:06

idk. just trying to think here.... not sure how to assure their vote.

23:07

but also, they know what they want to do.... and when vera has their mind set, they generally stick with it.... so maybe its pointless to talk to them

I think jay and vera won't listen to me on this

23:13

But I can certainly try

23:13

I think they have already decided early in the phase and any switching is just messing with us

Yeah, fair, well… do what you thinks best.

jay put a vote on mat but i doubt itll stay for PC

The derp double vote may help us out massively here.

23:43

If the votes cancel out.

I'm messaging them

Mr. Mark Waite

The derp double vote may help us out massively here.

yeah

23:48

@Host i beg

23:48

does voting two different people nullify both votes?

I think hosts aren't answering this on purpose

23:48

As to not intervene

Oh sorry I've been busy

lol

yeah it should

ok thank you bestie

Oh ok

23:50

@Fred Fischer are you holding off on your votes for any reason?

So we need fish on there… and… uhh. Does that tie it rn?

23:50

With derp cancelling?

We tie lynch I think

Simon Elliot

@Fred Fischer are you holding off on your votes for any reason?

just to make it a bit more unexpected

Someone please hack Vera’s computer

23:55

Fish, get on that vote, it might encourage Vera to jump? Idk

ok im on it and suso mayor

@Participant Everyone jump on Jay to tie the mayor at least.

Are vera and Jay on it already

23:57

If so we tie exactly

23:57

And make sure not to overdo it

Yeah.

23:57

Yeah

jay is

Vera not on it

23:58

Very careful

ye

23:59

5 is good

23:59

cause vera is on mat

If vera doesn't switch this is just extremely sad

Kill jay

Well we cry

wait but

No

00:00

Read again

how did we push mat lynch through

00:00

we won this

Hey we got that lynch

mayor went to mat who got lynched

What the fuck

we effectively tied it

00:00

IDK

00:00

how did we get that

No

00:01

We won it

im talking mayor vote

00:01

we nulled it so we effectively tied it

Hehe

the derp null came in clutch

How did it go from 7 to 5 tho

no clue

00:02

someone took their vote off

00:02

i think

Was Sharl voting

00:03

Did anyone check

sharl was on you last i checked

00:04

jay flipped to mat

00:04

thats how we got it

Oh he is

jay was a non voter till the end

00:04

where he voted mat

00:04

thats wild

00:04

probably cause youre death doomed

00:05

so we kill jay tonight and lynch vera tomorrow

Do we have the numbers

00:05

Cuz i die

uhh

00:05

4 wolf

Alive Players | Total: 12

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- shapechange (@Mayor Joseph Cooper)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- jeand.arch (@Lawrence Cain)

- federick (@Horace Gardner)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

uhhh

00:05

maybe not

00:06

i was banking on killing jay saving you cause i thought that was how it worked

Ugh we might need to keep jay for a bit longer

i dont think we should

00:08

jay will kill one of us

00:09

well actually if we kill vera tonight it wouldnt be that bad cause we could cancel it

00:09

well

let's see here

theyll be apoc tomorrow actually, i think

rn: 4 Town, 5 wolves, 2 solo, 1 UA (edited)

00:11

Tomorrow we lose fed to HoD

4 4 1 1

00:13

or 4 3 2 1 but thats worse cause apoc

we have guardian and scared wolf

00:14

is it safe enough or not

00:14

probably not

00:15

plus town and horsemen will team up to lynch us

yeah

00:15

wait

00:15

hear me out

00:15

vera is famine right?

00:15

which can doom 2 people per day?

Horseman Of Famine [Solo Power - Horsemen Team]

Basics

Each night, the Horseman of Famine may doom two players. Doomed by the Horseman of Famine, they are starved, becoming unrecognizable. Instead, they will permanently be seen as a horseman role.

Details

Dooming a player is an immediate effect. Players doomed by the Horseman of Famine will be permanently and strongly disguised as an arbitrary in-play Horseman role (one that existed when Night 1 starts). For more information, check $i doom. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

if we kill vera jay cant become apoc

00:16

me and you are both undoomed

00:16

and if jay targets any wolves we kill jay that night

00:16

if jay targets town we just win

Oh wait, Vera is prolly hop

00:17

Maybe?

00:17

Maybe not

IDK

But yes, kill Vera?

i think either way vera is better cause we cant cancel death doom tonight anyways

Need to get horse number down.

leaving jay gives the chance a town is doomed so we can win easier

Jay will need to work with us then

00:18

He wont doom town

well it will be a situation where jay loses either way and picks the winner tbh

Nah

does it really matter if we either kill jay or vera

00:19

they are both horses

He can win if he lynches town and kills wolves

yes cause jay has a chance to kill town, unlike vera

00:19

not a likely chance but greater than 0

Fred Fischer

if we kill vera jay cant become apoc

dooming is immediate

yeah?

yes

oh wait its night

00:20

oops

00:20

i thought it was day for some reason

when you get the text you are doomed it's just happened

then IDK!!!

We don't know if all of town is doomed tbf

00:20

possibly not!

yeah

hopefully not!

00:20

still

00:21

we have a situation in our hands

00:21

Because we'll be 4 town, 4 wolves, 1 solo, 1 UA

00:21

Solo will lynch wolves if we kill solo tonight

00:22

Even if no win is possible for solo anymore

yeah..

we could get lucky with the psycho list

00:22

but

00:22

i doubt it'

who is the psycho again

sharl, probably

00:22

what if i just ask sharl which horse is on his list and we get his vote

00:23

couldve been TS but

what if it was Ts

00:23

yeah

00:23

i mean it doesnt hurt to ask

maybe its one of the living ones and we can get the vote

00:23

yeah

yeah ask him rq

i did but asleep i imagine

you know

00:29

maybe sharl isn't psycho

sharl is the fox

00:30

it all makes sense now

sharl did vote with town after all

00:30

maybe it's wolfie

true

who didn't vote

oh, maybe

00:30

im gonna talk to them

hmm

00:30

maybe they are a cit

00:30

but I don't know

00:31

it may be a good idea not to stir up too much shit

00:31

because if people are not paying attention to the game

00:31

it's more likely town will miss at least one vote again

00:31

and then we actually win

too late i made a good pun CC name

hey does doomsday start right on the night the dooming happens

00:33

like do they get kills that same night

00:33

or the following

@Mr. Mark Waite who did you even check

Uhhh

derp

00:34

it was derp

Derp

00:34

Derp

fair fair

Cuz he was voting Vera (which at the time I thought was arch, cuz of bow and arrow lol)

00:35

Was looking for pp

as per jay's request i have doomed arch and fed tonight

Naw, bs

sorry wrong chat this was supposed to go on # horsemen

Huh?

00:37

Confused.

its over

00:44

we've been duped

00:44

the final horse was among us this whole time

they don't call me sus for nothing

Damn, Suso is the goat!

00:50

He even got into the wolf chat channel. That’s incredible!

ok so who are we hitting

01:06

any doom messages

01:06

I haven't gotten one

01:06

they may be delaying or something

Hit Vera I would say. But that’s just me.

01:09

Uhh, any use protecting anyone?

01:09

Prolly not.

Mr. Mark Waite

Hit Vera I would say. But that’s just me.

i agree

Simon Elliot

they may be delaying or something

i assume so too

Maybe I’ll protect Ethan for the funsies

Mr. Mark Waite

Maybe I’ll protect Ethan for the funsies

you cant protect fed right

Uhh, no.

RIP

But like, no one can attack him anyways, so doesn’t really matter

01:13

Unless the horses have gone apoc

im just talking to save from doom

01:13

but yeah i dont think it works

You know what…. Maybe I’ll protect myself just incase? Idk

01:14

Or should I protect… uhh, nick or Suso?

01:14

Who’s the most useful to have around?

nothing can attack

Anyone you wanna keep safe?

so like

;hoa

❗ Could not find role hoa. Did you mean hooker (aka Hoo)?

01:15

Hooker [Townsfolk Power]

Basics

Each night, the Hooker sleeps with another player. They will not be killed by attacks on them, but will be affected by those taking place at their target’s house.

Details

Since the Hooker is at the other player’s house and not at home, any attacks targeting the Hooker in the night will fail; however, if the person they’re sleeping over at is being attacked, then they both are attacked. Choosing a player to sleep with is an immediate ability. From that point on, they will stay with that player for the rest of the night. The Hooker may also choose not to sleep with anybody. The Hooker may not sleep with the same player two nights in a row.

;apoc

❗ Could not find role apoc. Did you mean apocalyptic horseman (aka Apo)?

01:15

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

01:16

Guardian [Extra Elected]

Basics

The Guardian protects the town. When there are 15 or fewer players, the Guardian may choose one player. This player cannot be killed by attacks during the current night. When there are more than 15 players, they may choose up to two.

Details

The Guardian chooses their protected player(s) during the night, and they will be protected from attacks during the current night. They may not protect a player who was protected by a Guardian in the previous night, but may protect themself and/or alternate between two or more players. Any attack against a player protected by the Guardian fails, however a protected player may still die through other means. The Guardian is elected on the first full day with a living Mayor, a living Reporter and no living Guardian. Protecting players from attacks is an immediate effect. The Guardian may resign at the end of any phase. The Guardian gains an additional secret channel, which is reused for any subsequent Guardians.

I mean, it would keep someone safe from apoc if they’ve made it there

they havent

01:17

im not doomed

01:17

suso isnt doomed

Alr. So A- we need to kill a horse B- I’ll protect Ethan lol

protect fish or yourself

01:18

just in case

01:18

it's free

01:18

nick also works

Can I submit, protect my mom?

I think?

dont protect me or you

01:18

protect someone outside of wolves

01:19

so you can protect anyone when apoc happens (edited)

meh then don't protect anyone

well yeah

01:19

or just dont protect anyone

Okay, protecting my mom then.

epic

Submitted

01:21

Mom jokes are banned for 12 hours.

Ok so

02:05

Much to my demise, I have voted vera on the pack poll

im telling wolfie im medium and praying they just dont pay attention

02:06

lol, says the scorpion, lmao

02:06

they claim citizen still

Fred Fischer

im telling wolfie im medium and praying they just dont pay attention

Gaslighting 101

if we get wolfie's vote that will actually be peak

See this is my problem in werewolves

02:08

I think I have too much respect for other players

are you saying i should feel bad about gaslighting a player who hasnt paid attention all game

No

02:10

I'm saying I shouldn't

lol, fair enough

I assume people know stuff that's public and play rationally

02:10

That's hardly ever the case

i do 90% of the time

02:11

but when a player hasnt voted and asks my role when approached when im outed evil

02:11

im gonna tell them medium and see how far i can go (edited)

02:11

lol

Hmm, maybe if we kill Jay instead?

02:24

Idk, I’m spinning some wheels here, but like… if I can somehow manage to get arch to finally believe me that I’m pp. It’s a MASSIVE reach. But idk, maybe just maybe a Vera lynch tomorrow? I’m in crazy land rn. But maybe? lol

We can do jay kill if you prefer

02:25

They're HoD so it may be better

02:25

I was going for vera to get the double doom out of the way just in case

Mr. Mark Waite

Idk, I’m spinning some wheels here, but like… if I can somehow manage to get arch to finally believe me that I’m pp. It’s a MASSIVE reach. But idk, maybe just maybe a Vera lynch tomorrow? I’m in crazy land rn. But maybe? lol

I guess if town sees that Jay isn't psycho they'll be more likely to believe you

02:27

But they don't have reporter

02:27

So they won't have the confirmation

Yeah, idk, Jay seems to be the only one out of Vera and Jay that seems to believe me, so it’s kind of like. Eh, but at least if I can stay pitching Vera to arch, I won’t have to change my story

02:30

But yeah, the potential double dooming is annoying. But that said, they haven’t been moving quick enough to make me believe there are 2 dooms happening each night… right?

02:30

I mean, I could always check Vera again tomorrow for hof vs hop

Vera has to be hof, you got it on the check and if a horseman tries to doom another horseman it fails and they unite instead

wolfie isnt doomed yet

03:29

we may have 2 days until apocalypse instead of 1

03:30

i imagine us 3 will be doomed but if wolfie isnt then maybe someone else out there isnt

03:30

im telling wolfie about the horse menace

So… where’s the vote now? Vera or Jay?

Doomed

11:51

Yeah it was delayed

11:51

Rn on vera

11:51

Do I switch to jay

11:52

@Mr. Mark Waite ?

11:53

I switched to jay

11:53

So you can push for a vera lynch as psycho I guess

11:54

Probably won't make a huge difference

im doomed yes

Alive Players | Total: 10

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- jeand.arch (@Lawrence Cain)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

Left 4 town 4 wolf 1 pp 1 honse

16:33

So tying the vote is prolly our best option here I’m guessing.

16:33

Hopefully wolfie just goes afk.

Also, uhhh, they are prob apoc now right?

17:12

So let’s say this is true. 1 wolf lynch today. Then kill a town tonight Horse kills a wolf 3/2/1/1

17:13

Can’t have that. So we need to tie the votes today.

17:13

3/3/1/1

17:14

But if I do that, I’m outted, meaning prolly no Vera lynch tomorrow, cuz town would save Vera until the end

17:14

Hmm

Aren't you pushing for a vera lynch today?

17:15

Do they even know what evil role vera is?

I am somewhat, but like, it’s hard cuz I’ve been also pushing for fish for like…. The whole game. So to keep my cover, I can’t exactly say no to 1 I’ve been wanting all game.

17:16

And realistically. Town needs a horse to win, so like, I don’t think there’s a point in trying to push Vera when fish is up.

17:16

Doesn’t make sense for the pp cover.

They don't know evil roles, do they?

17:16

They just know we're evil

Yeah, I think so

Well, if you have to switch to tie the psycho cover is up anyway (edited)

Yeah, I know. I’m hoping to keep up the cover, but like… I doubt that will happen.

You could make a reasonable argument as to why you prefer vera getting lynched

If we can get sharl on our side, that would be ideal, but idk if that’ll happen

Even if fish is on your list

17:18

We don't know what sharl is up to

17:18

Also if you want to talk to sharl it better be soon

17:18

Near phase change he's never around

uhh, yeah... i dont really know what to say to him honestly

17:19

did you approach him? i know fish did.

17:21

oh shit.... i just realized.... jay prolly death doomed.

17:21

so... frick

17:21

we HAVE to get vera ou today

17:22

imma check sharl

Remember psycho gets a disguise

17:22

It's still worth the try

17:23

But yeah it will most likely just say cit

if its a weird disguise then well know, otherwise, meh

17:23

maybe he chose one early and then never changed it? idk

17:24

HoF

17:24

sharl

17:24

so... no help at all

17:25

guess he got fammed last night

17:26

so my guess is maybe.... you got deathed. fish also got fammed

17:26

oh god, we're so cooked

17:27

NEED to kill vera

17:28

you know what.....

17:28

we could go to sharl and ask him if he got doomed. (just trying to see how close we are to apoc)

17:29

then when he says he did, get your CF to check him to see what kind (cuz there is 2 kinds that could have done it), then tell him, he didnt come up as horse, therefor he must be deathed.

17:30

which would mean we would HAVE to get a horse today otherwise he'll die tonight

17:31

im personally worried about doing it.... but idk.

17:34

wait.... what if.... sharl is actually the hof? is that a possibility?

17:36

fuck it, ill make a cc with sharl... see how it goes

Mr. Mark Waite

which would mean we would HAVE to get a horse today otherwise he'll die tonight

Hey that's pretty good

need to get sharl online though

17:52

otherwise we are le fucked

17:53

but like.... the hard thing about that plan is.... ill have to guess at what comes up on the check

17:53

like.... if i say he was shown as citizen, if his disguise isnt citizen, hell know its bs

@Participant everyone get on vera lynch

18:26

need vera out or we are fucked

Can't we just wait for a snipe?

18:26

Why now?

18:27

Oh i didn't see fish getting voted

18:27

Okay

we could if youll be around... but i dont know if there is a point in trying to mask it

18:27

could do to keep veras guard down.... but im sure they are aware that they are our target today.

Why are you voting fish tho

its temporary

18:28

ill move it around pc

Ah i see okay

its only to play the pp a little longer

18:28

need to get sharl on board though

18:29

or we lose the lynch.

18:29

i think with sharl we tie it.

18:29

if all town votes

18:29

but we may get lucky and have wolfie just gap out

18:30

nm, wolfie is already on fish

18:30

maybe fish can do some gaslighting to wolfie? lol

18:34

actually.... @Mr. Nicolas Marsh will you be around at pc? if so, move to arch lynch (edited)

18:34

and suso too

18:35

we could maybe put all our votes on arch.... see if vera jumps on that. then snipe vera?

18:35

cuz vera prolly knows a wolf is death doomed, plus another wolf gone means that majority would go after vera tomorrow

18:36

so it would prolly be in their best interest to get rid of a town today.

2 hour early phase change everyone. uhhh... maybe we can take advantage of that?

19:04

uh oh, suso, will you be awake then?

19:05

(sorry for all my yapping, im trying to solve our predicament and i tend to yap lol)

Mr. Mark Waite

actually.... @Mr. Nicolas Marsh will you be around at pc? if so, move to arch lynch (edited)

Yeah def

19:32

Okay done

19:32

Moved my vote to arch

we wait so they don't expect it and panick

alr, remember, in 2 hours is phase change

19:53

i mean, seeing how many snipes weve tried, they may be expecting it. but wtv lol

19:54

will you be around suso?

19:54

oh shit, fish never wakes up

19:54

ugh.... fucking fish

19:54

regularily sleeping until 1+

19:54

this PC change may fuck us

19:56

i guess we just HOPE fish wakes up before then

19:57

but like.... i was crunching numbers and..... if fish dies, its not the worst thing. cuz itll force vera (if apoc) to take out a town.

19:57

which would leave the numbers even (2/2/1/1)

19:57

but we would have to coordinate with vera

Mr. Mark Waite

will you be around suso?

yes

Mr. Mark Waite

i mean, seeing how many snipes weve tried, they may be expecting it. but wtv lol

well

19:58

they just

19:58

haven't done much about it?

19:58

i don't know

(got there by this.... lynch fish, wolf death doomed. vera attack town, we attack town.)

19:59

and if fish doesnt wake up in time, ill leave my vote on fish. like, im not gonna switch it unless we absolutely have a tie or win the vote.

20:00

cuz if i kill fish, i can reason with arch about lynching vera tomorrow as my win con

20:00

that said, vera is also a list person, but arch would prolly see that as "convenient timing"

20:01

once vera is gone, i can completely drop the pp act

Simon Elliot

we wait so they don't expect it and panick

Oh shit maybe i shouldn't had voted arch?

naw, i dont think anyone noticed

20:04

its fine, just stay on arch for now, and if it looks like we have the numbers, we jump

20:05

as of right now, we have the numbers (with you me and suso), but that could very well change if more people check in.

20:05

missing votes.... derp, vera, fish, sharl

Vera hasn't said much

20:06

Idk if they would just give up

naw, vera is super competative. i doubt they would give up (edited)

20:07

and like, there is still a chance they can win

20:07

unlikely, but like... they need numbers to stay even

20:08

which is why, if we cant win or tie the vote, fish gone is best case scenario (if apoc)

20:09

actually, i would even say, tying is bad cuz that would give vera a kingmaker position..... so like, i think we need to either win or lose the vote

20:09

and for sure they would side with town in that sitch.

20:14

reason i say that is.....

no lynch
wolf doom death
we kill town.

3/3/1/1 vera gets to choose which side has the strength. which means that in the vote, to keep the balance (if vera picks off a wolf), we are forced to get a town person to get back to even. or kill vera at lynch? but that would be a definite loss for town at 2/3//1 then kill town 2/2/1 sharl gets to decide really.

20:15

but if sharl by then ascends. then win i guess?

20:15

idk, these numbers are breaking my brain..... lets just kill vera now, ez.

Sharl is voting with town

@Fred Fischer Wake the fuck up!!

Tragic day for wolf fans

Yeah, I’m talking with sharl rn

21:39

I told him he may be death doomed (as per what Jay was talking about before he died

21:39

I should say I checked him, but like, that’s a huge gamble.

21:39

I would have to know what role he’s disguised as.

21:39

Then again, Vera being a pp is also on my mind.

21:40

But like, low likelyhood

21:44

@Fred Fischer you gonna die if you don’t wake

21:46

We can tie votes rn. But if you stay sleepy, we cooked

Ugh

Why are the dead people voting

Yeah, I told luffy about dummo, but he didn’t seem to care

Lmao didn't notice that

Well, didn’t comment on it I should say

21:49

Bleh, now Vera is on… it’s so joever

im awake

21:50

what do i do

21:50

early PC is scary

Well, guess our only hope is that horses see reason in taking out a town with us.

21:50

Naw, you’re cooked.

21:50

Too many people voting on you

RIP

But vote arch, fuck it

21:50

See if Vera jumps.

21:51

@Participant Get on arch.

21:51

See if we can get Vera to jump

i wish sharl were on when i was so we could talk

21:51

sharl is only on when im not

21:51

Sharl is on rn. Go do some desperate pleas

21:53

8 minutes left. Maybe you can convince him to arch

well he wont respond

21:53

so

21:53

Oh what?! Vera is on arch now!!

21:53

Wtf!

21:53

Eep

21:54

I wonder if that’s a bait for me.

21:54

I’ll jump if Vera stays there

i said "please vote arch (importat)" if that doesnt sway them nothing will

Lmao, that’s impossible to say no to!

Mr. Mark Waite

I’ll jump if Vera stays there

huck, you need to jump

21:56

we can't win if we lose this lynch

21:56

we hardly can win even if we get it

21:56

staying hidden is pointless

Yeah, I know, I’ll jump

jump last minute though

Vera is 100% watching the polls though

21:57

So it’ll have to be like, last possible second.

21:57

Otherwise Vera will prolly jump off

21:57

Tense lunch

21:58

I really wonder if Vera has pp

JUMP

21:59

HUCK please

this is like in the movies when theyre like HOOOOLD

21:59

HOOOOOOOLD

21:59

ALMOOOOST

21:59

FIIIIIIRE

luffy is liyerally typing

21:59

the command to end the poll

W W W W W W W W W

wow

Got em

WE LIVE THEEESE

this is utter insanity

22:00

3 unsound snipes in a row

I just had full on Adrenalin rush

none of these theoretically work

My heart is going so fast rn lmfao

yeah so why the fuck did that not tie

val

Cuz dummo

vas was voting as dead

Fucked with polls

pffff

There will be a case for game restart I’m sure.

22:01

But either way, we got em!

surely this is a rulebreak

Yup, had to be

22:02

But wtv. We live!!!

Simon Elliot

vas was voting as dead

Which @Host , absolutely shouldn't be the case

22:02

At the very least it's leaking dead info

22:02

At worst it tripped up people thinking the poll was tied

Wtv, offseason lol

now i feel bad about winning the snipe through that..

Simon Elliot

At worst it tripped up people thinking the poll was tied

it tripped me up!

Fred Fischer

now i feel bad about winning the snipe through that..

I don’t

Mr. Mark Waite

I don’t

so true bestie

No more pp for me

22:03

I’m all wolf now babyyyyy

22:03

No more denying myself my true identity

22:03

AWOOOOOOO

ok so we kill vera now

22:03

and...?

22:03

that stops the death doom?

22:03

I think?

naw, Vera might be apoc

But we'll get attacked once

22:04

I am runner so it doesn't matter

We get another town and then lynch Vera tomorrow

and we have 1 protect

22:04

oh right

22:04

we can't attack vera

22:04

ugh

22:04

I'll die tonight then I guess

It’s fine, your death will be for the greater good

22:05

I’ll protect fish or nick incase a Vera attack.

apoc isnt announced?

No

22:05

It just happens I think

Do we just win?

ah, ok

I think we just win

22:05

We kill 1 town

22:05

2 town left

What are the numbers rn?

Oh we lose 2 of us

well killing a town we will have 3 2 1 1

nope

why two?

If we get lucky with apoc we win

22:06

Otherwise we don't

oh, right

Guardian needs to trigger

22:06

It's a 1/3 chance

Yeah, I need to pick right, or we back to tie I think

Who got doomed last night

22:06

Fish and me?

yeah

22:07

one of us may perish

And sharl i I think

I am likely death doomed

22:07

Because you were the lynch

22:07

Sharl is famine doomed

Mr. Mark Waite

And sharl i I think

and wolfie

Huh?

22:07

Last night?

22:07

No

wolfie got doomed when me and suso did

Fred Fischer

and wolfie

only 3 dooms last night

wolfie told me as much so *shrug

Huh?

Someone is lying

i see

22:07

probs wolfie

Anyway here's the deal

You know what…. Sharl may be the hof.

I am most likely the death doomed

22:08

But it could technically be fish

And Vera the pp

Mr. Mark Waite

You know what…. Sharl may be the hof.

IDK about that

22:08

maybe

So the prot has to go on huck or nick

I checked sharl last night and he came up hof

he IS in my CCs saying huck is probably horseman

Or today I mean

Mr. Mark Waite

And Vera the pp

Well, vera and Jay were implying that they were horsemen in the cc i made with them

22:09

Along with ts

22:09

I said

You got the full admin solo team pfhaha

response was

genuinely fucked us over lol

22:09

could be a lie but it seems extremely unlikely

22:09

you also checked vera early game

22:10

which makes the famine doom less likely

22:10

wait

22:10

huh??

22:10

render gets

yeah id believe sharl PP mostly

MAYOR??

22:10

wuh???

22:10

well we kill him anyway

22:10

but why

22:10

the poll is reporter

WAHHHH

22:10

our MAYOR

Wait, does hof disguise stay on?

is that how it works now?

Or is it 1 night?

Mr. Mark Waite

Wait, does hof disguise stay on?

stays

22:11

forever

22:11

suffering

Oh, well, that changes my thoughts a bit

❗ Could not find role election. Did you mean extra elected (aka Elected)?

22:11

Extra Elected

Mayor

Mayor

Reporter

Reporter

Guardian

Guardian Monarch

I thought sharl got hit last night

22:11

And yeah, mayor needs to be taken out

where was the election info

Ethan fucked up

22:12

Luffy knew but didn’t change it

@Host render should have reporter, not mayor, right?

Mayor

Or did the rules change at some point?

The poll was just named bad

No, mayor, cuz Ethan is a silly goose

OH

22:14

the poll was named badly?

So we kill render tonight

RIGHt

22:14

we killed mat

22:14

I totally forgot and though Arch had mayor

Render dead. Suso prolly dead. But with render saying he just got doomed. Might mean no apoc attacks

uhh

Alive Players | Total: 9

- sharleclaire (@PC. Forrest Goodman) gibagul

gibagul

- 5uso (@Simon Elliot)

- renderxr (@Bert Singleton)

- venomousbirds (@Prof. Vera Howard)

- nick262008 (@Mr. Nicolas Marsh) undeadga

undeadga

- huckhuck55 (@Mr. Mark Waite)

- mrrfiish (@Fred Fischer)

- clever_wolfie382 (@Curtis Baker)

- derpsnorlax (@Devon Manfield) (edited)

do we know really

22:15

is apoc the same night as dooming

22:16

or the next one

22:16

I have been asking this the whole game

22:16

I don't think the rule book says

3 town 4 wolf 1 1

22:16

Tomorrow 2 3 1 1

The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

22:16

ok

22:16

ok

Yeah

I see

That

So next night

22:17

I'll go and question render

Mr. Mark Waite

Tomorrow 2 3 1 1

This still doesn’t guarantee a win though. If town/pp/horse all vote together

22:18

After tomorrow we may be down to 1/1/1

22:19

Which would be town king making.

22:19

Wait. No, cuz I’ll prolly be last one alive. And so I can’t vote on polls (if the horse is thinking good)

Render was doomed a while back

22:24

I think vera has gone apoc already

22:25

Trying to sway render into believing horses are doing better than us

22:25

Don't talk to town too much

Yeah, got it

22:30

Hopefully arch hasn’t passed on too much info

22:33

Who should I prot? Fish or nick?

22:34

(No point doing you Suso, since you’re likely death’d

I am death'd and scared wolf

22:34

I am voth doomed yet safe from attacks

22:34

Nick or yourself

I think death bypasses scared

Nah

22:34

It's a night attack

22:34

Death doom bypasses because it's a kill

@Host Does death doom bypass scared wolf?

Mr. Mark Waite

I think death bypasses scared

I read this wrong

22:35

Doom does

Yes

it bypasses all defences (edited)

I read "vera" bypasses

22:35

As in the apoc kill

Not all defences right

Not idiot

22:35

Idiot resists kills

Idiot and demonised

i mean, is there a world where we can kill vera tonight?

no

cause we win in that world

all defences present in this game

Nope, Vera lives tonight

We are pretty sure vera went apoc

22:36

So we can't

fair fair

But we can gaslight the three townies

Azathoth

all defences present in this game

Better

Into voting with us tomorrow

22:36

probably

I just noticed I am trying to convince render to lynch vera tomorrow

22:44

When both me and render will be dead tomorrow

22:45

Hilarious

22:46

We need to somehow convince Derp and Wolfie to lynch vera

Simon Elliot

When both me and render will be dead tomorrow

Lmao

I think the narrative that horses win immediately otherwise can work

22:46

Because town doesn't know how many horses or wolves there are I think?

22:46

At least not anymore?

Unless arch had a comprehensive list.

Render thought there were 6 wolves left right now

Lmao

22:47

Could be bluffing though so we keep him alive.

I am implying there is at least two horses left

Telling you he’ll vote with us

Doubt it

22:47

I'd never risk that

I don’t know render at all though, so no idea the level of gullibility he has

Render isn't gullible

22:48

It's just his first time playing

22:48

Because Ts convinced him while we were eating seafood at a fancy restaurant

Someone please sub swurtle in!!!

Jk

22:49

Oh! You know tender personally?

22:49

Crazy

22:49

Render*

22:49

Tender render

Our current profile pictures come from the same picture

22:49

lmao

Ah, I see

22:50

I guess fed was there

nah but we did meet up with fed last month

Wait, huh?

22:51

Your picture is fed though isn’t it?

?

22:51

My picture is me

Oh. Lol I thought it was fed

Why would i set fed as my pfp SDAHHASK

For the lawls? Idk

lmao

22:55

my pfp is also me from that same picture

22:55

i was there at the TS suso render meetup

22:55

its true'

Same

we were in a water ride

22:55

so it's plausible

I was there too. Just an eye on a water ride

imagine going to a water park and the fucking eye of sauron shows up in swim trunks

I don’t get the “imagine” bit

7

8

dvaqCVNM

Tragic that 7 could eat that many letters

my cat is on my desk

My cat is dead

22:59

my cat has typed some interesting messages

gadse

I love cat messages

the most egregious one was an insane keyboard smash in the announcements channel of the internal minecraft realms slack

23:00

because for some reason we had perms to type there

Cats will take over someday. So that would be the first step. Minecraft server

***-

How the fuck do we win this game

23:04

I protected nick btw

well

23:05

in truth we probably don't

23:05

we don't even deserve to lmao

23:05

but our chance is if town is confused enough to vote with us tomorrow

Horses deserve it… but fuck that.

What did you think would happen if you revealed yourself before having maj

I mean, it’s been working out this far

23:06

What do you mean?

Azathoth

What did you think would happen if you revealed yourself before having maj

Well, I believe we would lose

The last 3 polls have been good for us

And we should have

23:06

We would have hadn't we done it lmao

23:07

Very smug for someone who hasn't just sniped three polls in a row

^^^

This game has been a strategic clusterfuck

23:07

From the very beginning

23:07

We tried coordinating claims to get more coverage

23:07

But uh

My strat brain has been broken and rebuilt every day.

Simon Elliot

This game has been a strategic clusterfuck

remove strategic then you're good

Let's gooo

Fluster cluck

Anyways I told render that I'm dying and that town should lynch vera

23:09

Idk if he knows who is town to tell them

I mean, he should know based on the polls

if he knows it's unlikely they'll fall for it

But yeah, Vera being in there is a pretty big mystery maybe

so we place our hopes in the power of friendship

FRIENDSHIP FOR THE WIN

23:10

I’ll maybe work on town tomorrow

23:10

Unless I die, then I won’t lol

honestly if we didnt hit medium this wouldve been MUCH smoother sailing

you could be dead tomorrow

23:10

The only one who definitely will be alive is nick

It’s all up to you nick, don’t fuck it up

I think protecting yourself could have been better also because you have the guardian role

23:11

But I guess vera would assume guardian is protected

23:11

And switch to someone else

Maybe I’ll like… idk, say some subtle things to Vera

23:18

Maybe not.

23:18

Idk.

23:19

Actually, yeah, Vera can’t be pp. Like, if they were they would say by now. Knowing they are high risk of being attacked.

ive avoided lynch twice

23:39

this is funny

You’re so slippery

23:50

When wet

gibagul

Suso

CATS!!

01:42

Ethan… what’s the difference between a pimple and a zit?

So… what’s poppin?

08:05

Lots of action in this game I see

Mr. Mark Waite

Lots of action in this game I see

true true

Late game always take a turn for the quiet. It’s like. Dead zone in here

08:14

And just wait until 2 more are dead. Sadge

08:14

Current 2 3 1 1

08:15

Wait. Is that current?

08:15

No. I’m dumb. 4/3/1/1

08:16

Bleh. We’re cooked

Ye

08:32

If you die tonight I’ll cry

08:32

You’ve been my rock.

08:32

Rockfish

baby you light up my world like no booody else

08:33

IDK for some reason i thought that song had the lyrics "rock my world" but now i realize it doesnt so this doesnt work

Uhhhhmmmm

08:43

What’s a rock my world song?

08:43

There has to be at least one

08:44

Robbie Williams?

08:44

No, that’s “rock dj” or something

08:44

‍♂️

08:44

Guess it doesn’t matter

08:44

Hmm… should I stay up until 3am to see who dies?

Mr. Mark Waite

Hmm… should I stay up until 3am to see who dies?

im gonna

09:02

Lmao, this is why you just barely squeak in at phase change

09:03

I baited you into that observation

09:03

I WIN!!

in my defense PC was 2 hours early

09:03

that couldve been devastating

Lmao, I don’t think there’s a defence for waking up at 1pm lmao

09:03

Unless you work nights

shush

But even then I wake up at like 10

09:04

@Participant um why are we not voting vera for lynch?

09:42

i just woke up and it seems like we are voting out render

probs cause its night

09:43

Nick… you okay?

09:44

Where are you even looking to see that?

we are killing render

09:45

is why

Oh. I get it. Woof pack stuff

09:45

Vera is likely apoc rn.

yup

So can’t kill them

Fred Fischer

probs cause its night

@Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Must lunch

oh yeah i meant in the wolfpack vote

09:47

but like.. why not vera?

cause apocalypse

Scroll up a bit

09:47

Or thanks fish

we assume vera is apoc right now

09:47

we dont know anyone who is undoomed

And if we waste a shot, we are for sure cooked

ye

Or…. Hmm

09:48

I wonder

Fred Fischer

cause apocalypse

exactly. then it will be 4 vs 3 vs 1 (UA)

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

exactly. then it will be 4 vs 3 vs 1 (UA)

apoc is immune bestie

4/3/1/1 2/3/1/1 I wonder if making us weaker is actually the better move here?

Apocalyptic Horseman [Solo Killing - Horsemen Team]

Transformation Role

Basics

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed. Each night, the Apocalyptic Horseman may attack a player. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

Details

When all remaining Horsemen are united and all remaining players doomed, Doomsday is unleashed, and all Horsemen turn into an Apocalyptic Horseman. Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed in any way during the night. Attacking a player is an end-night ability. The Apocalyptic Horseman may not kill another player, if they have already attempted to doom somebody in the same night.

Fred Fischer

apoc is immune bestie

wait is it??

At night, the Apocalyptic Horseman cannot be killed

i never knew

09:49

lol

ye

Yo, here’s a crazy idea

09:49

If we only have 2 of us left….

09:49

Vera is a must for town

09:49

Wait, lemme explain this differently

09:51

If we don’t kill a town tonight. 3/2/1/1 (ua should ascend soon) Wolves are pretty much sunk right. So town would have to hit Vera…. Or just spite kill the last pack member.

09:51

But if we have 2/2/1/1. (Or if pp ascends) it’s hard to argue which side town takes. Likely horse cuz they never win.

that IS a kind of funny point (edited)

It’s a crazy off season idea… but like…. Do you know what I mean?

im down personally

09:52

09:52

i mean, that just means we attack vera

Lmao… this is called losing for a higher good

09:52

Yeah.

so either A) we were wrong and vera dies or B) we get no kill and it can work out

09:52

im honestly so down

It’s like… the only way we stand a chance in reasoning with town.

09:53

Otherwise they just straight up won’t listen.

@Participant

And mayyyybe I protect nick and he gets attacked, leaving us with 3/3/1/1

yeah

Which would also suck really

i mean

In terms of this crazy idea

hm

09:54

IDK!!

Me neither lol

i mean if we get a kill and protect do we win

09:55

then we have 2 / 3 / 1 / 1

Best case, attacking town. Were left with 3/2/1/1. Town and horse team up and tie with us (Derp has gone full afk it seems though) Worst case we go down to 3/2/1/1. (Us being 2) From there we could reason with town to say, kill Vera cuz we have 1 pack member left.

i mean they are not gonna believe that

09:56

since from all these snipes

They would if they saw 2 people that voted against town die.

09:57

And knowing it’s likely apoc, horse can’t die

09:57

So much be wolves dying

09:57

Must**

i mean, how sure are we that vera is apoc?

thats why i said attacking vera kinda accomplishes 2 things

cuz if we are sure that vera is, we shouldnt attack them

its VERA likely vera is apoc, but if they arent we just win off attacking them. if they are, and we attack them, then we are just in huck's plan's territory (edited)

Oh shit, but what if. We kill Vera somehow. Then horses get 2 of us. 3/2/1 (us 2) They lynch the last pack member, town wins.

if we kill vera, death doom doesnt happen

10:00

because all horses will be dead

10:00

so we just win if vera dies

Like, this is one of those moments where. If the plan works, we’d be geniuses. But if it fails we’d be negative brain cells

Fred Fischer

if we kill vera, death doom doesnt happen

OH RIGHT! Yeah

its offseason and id do it onseason anyways its funny

10:00

im personally team attack vera

hmm

Hmm

even if its just for the vine

fine, for the vine

10:01

DO IT FOR THE VINE

K, math one more time. It’s 4 wolves 3 town 1 horse 1 pp

10:01

2 wolves die

huck are you team attack vera

10:02

if so its a 3/4 vote (sorry @Simon Elliot)

2/3/1/1 Say to town. We have no chance Kill Vera 2/3/1 Night kill town 2/2 Tie vote 2/2 Kill town We win

10:03

But town would see that and prolly just side with horse think360

think360

i can use my alpha wolf ability so if it goes wrong we all just say it was me

Reset 2/2/1/1 (killed town tonight) Derp may afk, but also, looks like ua doesn’t care about us. So they side with town/horse Cooked

10:05

Yeah, I think we just have to sacrifice atm

does that mean youre team kill vera

Oh wait! I can join the wolf pack can’t I? Can I?

err

One sec.

why?

10:06

wait but

10:06

why

10:06

theres no reason except to poll

10:06

????!!! @Mr. Mark Waite

10:06

i mean i suppose we dont need investigation

Not now, I just didn’t know I ever could lmao

10:07

Just read it now. Completely forgot that was in the role desc

lol

10:07

thats for lame foxes who cant find their team

Or for when it gets down to the final 1 person

yeah

10:08

true

Shit… I didn’t think about this when I was doing protections

10:08

Eep

should i alpha wolf kill vera

10:08

i DID threaten to earlier in the game as a joke...

Well, hopefully nick is an outlier enough that Vera thinks it’s unpredictable.

Fred Fischer

should i alpha wolf kill vera

Uhh… I think it’s our only chance of winning

well thats 3/4 votes

I cant really see another way

its time to do the funny

Sorry Suso lol

poor suso is gonna come back and be like HUH???!?!??!!!

Lmao. The sacrifice play. Dont worry Suso. We know what we’re doing… as the lemmings all walk together off the cliff

anyways yeah im alpha wolfing vera

10:12

if it goes wrong it sounds so much funnier to say i did it

This is either incredibly stupid, or like, S tier play. Who knows which yet.

10:13

Can’t wait for the specs to be like… “they what?”

fed is rolling in his grave rn

10:13

DDD probably appreciates our skill

Anyways, if Suso and I die, you know the plan I guess. Need to work some magic on town.

aye aye

10:14

who do we say is last woof...

Ddd is prolly still still kicking himself for claiming hooker lol

Fred Fischer

who do we say is last woof...

Uhhh…. Well, I think whoever wants to do the talking should be the last woof

fair

So we’re saying there are 2 horses left then.

10:16

Why can’t I be on a team like this more often. Maybe this team is why it’s off season lmao

IDK if off season has affected any of my actions this game..

Yeah, no… tbh, this offseason game role list is very on season.

Oh so you want to try hitting vera for the fun of it?

12:04

I literally just woke up

12:04

The wolfpack poll is on render

12:05

Fish didn't switch

12:06

@Mr. Mark Waite @Fred Fischer ?

Simon Elliot

Fish didn't switch

i used alpha wolf

Oh

12:06

Right

12:06

That's outside the channel

12:07

Well I guess we wait and see lmao

oh

12:07

do i use it in the channel?

12:07

No

oh ok

I just forgot it's not a thing in the poll it's an ability

ye

Ok so

12:08

What was the plan here

so like

Are we intentionally not getting a kill?

kinda??

So town votes with us?

12:09

Well

the plan was basically go "now town has a 'chance' to win if they vote vera"

Convince render

12:09

Since he's alive now

yeah

And I talked with him yesterday

12:09

I'll be dead I guess

12:09

Good fucking luck

ill miss you

12:10

A

Oh

12:10

Well

is dead

I guess they hit you instead

12:10

Maybe I die too tbf

12:11

Huck is dead

12:11

Interesting

its jo over

Not giving up just yet

14:07

I'm trying to get town and psycho to vote vera off

14:07

Hold on tight

14:08

If we get rid of vera, we kill render, then lynch ties or we convince psycho

14:08

Then we night kill and maybe win

14:08

Quite unlikely, but possible

yeah you are right we arent giving up yet

14:40

plus we are already voting out cera

14:40

vera

I'm negotiating

16:30

Derp claims to actually be the psycho

16:30

More believable than sharl, based on behavior

16:31

Says he needs render dead as his last target

16:31

We're killing render tonight anyway so he may vote with us

16:32

I have been pretending for a while that there's two horsemen

16:32

And no one's questioned it

16:32

Which is kind of funny

Lmfao

17:31

Well, does it really matter who the psycho us

17:31

Is

17:31

Did you asked why he came up as citizen?

17:31

When huck investigated him

Psychopath [Unaligned Investigative]

Basics

At the start of the game, the Psychopath is given a list with one third of the game's players, rounded up, on it. If all players on the list are dead, and the Psychopath is still alive, the Psychopath wins.

Details

When the Psychopath wins, the Psychopath ascends and stops playing. The game continues. The Psychopath can’t win when they are dead. The Psychopath's list will always contain at least one player from every team that has at least two players. Which players are on the list is determined arbitrarily. The Psychopath may strongly disguise themself as any role. The disguise is applied immediately. They can update this disguise once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Psychopath wants to. If the Psychopath changes role, the disguise is lost. Additionally, the Psychopath may choose to either investigate or weakly disguise a player each day, but not both. Their investigation is affected by all disguises and redirections. Their disguise lasts for the current and following phase. The Psychopath is nonaligned.

Hmm, psycho can change disguises around I guess

17:42

I have been playing this entire game thinking it was once at the start of the game

Maybe

Derp is probably not the psycho

17:50

If he is, he is throwing the game atm

17:51

Anyway, if I get lynched and Dero is voting me to be lynched, kill him with the pack kill at night

17:51

We won't be able to win anyway

so sharl is the only that hasnt voted

21:25

can you get him to maybe vote for vera?

We're winning atm because of mayor

21:28

Sharl hasn't answered me nor render

21:28

I think he may not be around already due to timezones

21:30

I hope render doesn't switch on us

21:30

But he might

21:31

Vera is quite good at convincing people

well lets just hope

we shouldn't get too excited but currently the vote is looking pretty good

22:19

Wolfie must be cit, and didn't know that vera was confirmed horse

maybe they knew that the vote wasnt going to change decided to join the majority

nono I convinced them

ohh okay

23:10

good job

ok so

00:37

tonight we kill render

00:37

in theory derp ascends

00:37

then the lynch ties (or we win if we get lucky somehow)

00:37

then a kill at night

00:37

then if we haven't won already a lynch

got it

00:40

how havent we won yet?

00:40

we got all of the horses

well, we need to kill town

oh wait i forgot there were only 2 of us

and psychopath needs to be decided

00:40

there's 3 town but they can't do anything without psycho (edited)

00:40

from our perspective the game isn't solved because we can't be certain psycho isn't lying

well, do we even know who is left on psycho list?

Render, in theory

00:41

That's why derp supposedly ascends after this kill

00:41

It gets rid of mayor and psycho

who were the other people in the list?

who knows

00:42

I wasn't told

cuz like, doesnt it need to be 1 person from each alignment to be on the psycho list

00:42

?

00:42

or am i confusing it with chef

It's more than 1 person

00:43

It's around 1/3 of the players total (edited)

00:43

At least one per alignment

00:43

Most of the game is dead already so render being the only one left makes sense

00:43

And derp told that to me and to horses independently

00:44

So I guess it's probably correct

00:44

It wouldn't make sense to vote with the only horse left and lie to them about that

hmm i guess it makes sense

00:45

but i thought you said that sharl was more like to be psycho

00:45

or something

I thought derp was acting weird for psycho, which he was

00:46

But sharl has done nothing which is even less like psycho

00:46

Sharl has refused to talk to me in general

I mean i usually do nothing as any role, so idk. I guess it is weird for sharl?

Simon Elliot

Sharl has refused to talk to me in general

okay now thats really sus

Well, the thing is

00:47

I don't know why huck and fish thought sharl was psycho?

00:48

I thought they had some reason to believe that to be the case

00:48

But I haven't seen sharl claim psycho at any point

00:48

And when you're unaligned or solo you're pretty much the only one who can push for your win

00:48

So you gotta do something

00:49

A cit not answering me if I tell him I'm a wolf sort of tracks

00:49

I would try to troll a wolf that thinks I'm psycho

Well that makes sense, maybe huck and fish thought about it when you contacted sharl and they responded?

But not everyone would

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Well that makes sense, maybe huck and fish thought about it when you contacted sharl and they responded?

I contacted sharl today

00:49

They were speaking to him in earlier phases I think

oh?

00:50

then maybe he was trying to avoid only you

00:50

idk

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