Werewolves Revamped

Wolfpack

Most of the werewolves (Members of the Werewolf Team) are also part of the wolfpack. All members of the wolfpack know each other and receive a secret channel to communicate among themselves securely. Each night, the wolfpack votes to attack one player. Not all members of the wolfpack necessarily are also werewolves. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are also part of the pack. If there are no werewolves or lycans left in the wolfpack, the wolfpack is disbanded. Lycans Most, but not all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. This is relevant for roles such as the Priest. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. Lycans are those members of the werewolf team that truly are werewolves, and not just allies of the werewolves (e.g. while foxes are part of the werewolf team they aren't truly werewolves, so they aren't lycans).

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@Participant who's which wolf? Or are we assuming there's white wolf?

Mx. Marshall Serrano

@Participant who's which wolf? Or are we assuming there's white wolf?

I am sneaking wolf

Pack tanner

14:07

Claim now so www has no chance to see role list

Hello hello

14:08

Back at it again

14:08

I'm scared wolf

Nvm no www anyway

Bloody butcher

I'm tracking wolf

The other butchers are phantom and render

Well i am def claiming citizen

Pack: @Mx. Marshall Serrano - Tracking Wolf (no claim) @Mr. Nicolas Marsh - Sneaking Wolf (cit claim) @Horace Gardner - Bloody Butcher (butcher claim) @Simon Elliot - Scared Wolf (no claim) @Mr. Robert Elliot - Pack Tanner (no claim) @Fred Fischer - Alpha Wolf (no claim) (edited)

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14:12

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14:13

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 12-5-2024 14:13

Town: @Master Charles Gilman - Butcher (confirmed) @Bert Singleton - Butcher (confirmed) @Mrs. Stella Elliot - Chef (confirmed) (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 12-5-2024 14:19

@Participant let's make an agenda. First: Setting up our claim list and solidifying it. Everyone get a claim ready and we need to work with tanner to make them believable. Share them with the group before publicly or privately claiming so we can all get stories straight. Second: Find Clairvoyant and coordinate with them to- Third: Find Horsemen. Killing optional, we just need to for sure know who they are so they don't become a threat later. (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 12-5-2024 14:23

(please ping too)

Mx. Marshall Serrano

@Participant let's make an agenda. First: Setting up our claim list and solidifying it. Everyone get a claim ready and we need to work with tanner to make them believable. Share them with the group before publicly or privately claiming so we can all get stories straight. Second: Find Clairvoyant and coordinate with them to- Third: Find Horsemen. Killing optional, we just need to for sure know who they are so they don't become a threat later. (edited)

Yo, the chef has contacted me

14:26

I am their waiter

14:28

@Participant Swurtle is the chef

Omg again????

Waiter [Attribute]

Basics

Am attribute used by chef to mark its waiters. The Chef wins when at least one waiter survives until the end of the game.

I still haven't been chef yet

Mm.... Is chef a high priority target? They give attack invulnerability, but could also help us thin the heard?

Well they could be helpful. But swurtle could also been lying

14:29

To get roles

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

I am their waiter

So it's safe to assume the food is charmed then? Since they wouldn't want to kill their waiter when they need them to win. But also it's swurtle so this totally could just be a random day 1 kill

Unless they are giving away the other roles chef is a safe kill

14:30

Other waiters*

Wait, I'm slightly confused

14:32

Are waiters just anyone chef has served food to?

Mx. Marshall Serrano

So it's safe to assume the food is charmed then? Since they wouldn't want to kill their waiter when they need them to win. But also it's swurtle so this totally could just be a random day 1 kill

Well they can just side with the other waiters. You never know

Can someone please explain how chef works please? The info card is confusing me lol

So

14:33

Basically

14:34

The chef has a waiter of every alignment. But only one person from every alignment. For example they need to have 1 from town, 1 from the wolves. 1 from the horses. And the other could be just the psychopath i guess

14:35

So now, since they have said that I am their waiter means that Nobody else should be in this pack is a waiter

Up for strategizing later, rn I gotta cook

Wait does that mean they know you're wolf?

Not necessarily

14:37

Some town would take advantage of it and say that they got to be a waiter to try and get town lead

14:37

Which I could try.. but thats Very risky

14:37

Because if Swurtle has contacted me immediately that means that they have contacted the other waiters

It is a bad strategy for the chef to let the waiters know immediately honestly

14:39

Because if the waiters die then their team knows to align against the chef immediately

Simon Elliot

It is a bad strategy for the chef to let the waiters know immediately honestly

Well its not that bad of a plan. Its good to figure out your waiters role so you can decide who you want to side on

14:40

But i wouldn't do it immediately tbh

14:41

Which is why i think there is a possibility of swurtle not being the chef in the first place

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Which is why i think there is a possibility of swurtle not being the chef in the first place

That feels like a very swurtle move... I can check them tonight? If they are chef, they'll show up as not a threat since they're unaligned. But that also applies to clairvoyant and psychopath.

14:49

But it at least narrows them down to 1 of 3 roles

14:50

Or they're exposed for lying and we kill them

14:50

But if they are actually chef, it could be big for us. You're sneaking so strongly dis as cit. If you were to claim town waiter, TI would check and you'd be cit.

Mx. Marshall Serrano

But if they are actually chef, it could be big for us. You're sneaking so strongly dis as cit. If you were to claim town waiter, TI would check and you'd be cit.

Yeah but there is another town waiter out there. IF i claim and they claim something important then they will realise that i am just sneaking wolf and then i am fucked

14:54

Like i said its a big risk

Fair

14:54

I guess we just wait on more info

14:54

We basically have 2 WI

Mx. Marshall Serrano

That feels like a very swurtle move... I can check them tonight? If they are chef, they'll show up as not a threat since they're unaligned. But that also applies to clairvoyant and psychopath.

No, we dont need to check people that we already know their role.

14:55

Unless if you really think that swurtle is lying then go for it

But we don't know their role, and yeah I do think swurtle would lie it's such a swurtle move. And working with chef could be big, we keep track of who's invulnerable and potentially get a second kill some nights.

Swurtle has been chef before and she didnt lie

Bear in mind swurtle played the fucking angel card on a newbie in a game with no angel, she absolutely pulls stunts like this

Also its easily provable without checks

Horace Gardner

Also its easily provable without checks

Wait how?

She will give food to a waiter here

Hmm I think ill ask swurlte why they decided to contact me so quick. To see what their thought process is

Horace Gardner

She will give food to a waiter here

She gave food to nick already, then contacted and said nick was waiter

Uh?

Mx. Marshall Serrano

She gave food to nick already, then contacted and said nick was waiter

What no? I just said that they have contacted me

14:58

They havent given me food

Food is not given D0

Atleast yet

Oh sorry I misread

14:59

Sorry

Its okay

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Hmm I think ill ask swurlte why they decided to contact me so quick. To see what their thought process is

That makes sense

She is def chef lol

Ok so I check someone else then?

15:00

Also, should we try claiming a TC cc with tan backup?

15:03

Medium is extremely reliable this early considering it's almost guaranteed only town dies. But crowd seeker is affected by weak disguises so we could definitely fool them

Mx. Marshall Serrano

That makes sense

Okay so she said that she wanted to work with specific ones in order to win and she didnt wanted to lose like last time where she had no individual ccs to tell waiters that she was chef. So she had no info on what alignment they were

Mx. Marshall Serrano

Medium is extremely reliable this early considering it's almost guaranteed only town dies. But crowd seeker is affected by weak disguises so we could definitely fool them

Well we could also kill a horse or our own teammate who isnt on this pack

15:06

Happens more time then you think

Should we kill a butcher

Horace Gardner

She is def chef lol

If you think that she is chef should i tell her that i am a wolf

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

Well we could also kill a horse or our own teammate who isnt on this pack

Well we have me, so we just avoid killing anyone flagged as not a threat

Mr. Nicolas Marsh

If you think that she is chef should i tell her that i am a wolf

No

15:07

Leave her

Horace Gardner

Should we kill a butcher

No, it makes it 50/50 on who the bloody butcher is, which town will know and it'll be too intense questioning this early

I can claim it

Claim butcher you mean?

Yea

15:09

I can steer the discourse

Mmmm maybe not without discussing it with the other butchers? Bloody Butcher has more reason to go out on their own since they can communicate with pack, doing anything without discussing first makes you look suspicious

If they die before we agree to anything i can do a panic claim

15:10

Being sure that the other is wolf

Mmmm maybe that works? Like you begin the discussion, we kill a butcher and you panic claim, with the cover of "I don't want bloody butcher claiming I'm BB when I'm innocent"

15:11

But that gets fucked if the butcher we don't kill is contacted by TC

15:12

And Medium can ask a neutral question to check if the person we kill is town aligned or not.

Mx. Marshall Serrano

But that gets fucked if the butcher we don't kill is contacted by TC

Well there is like many town roles out there.TC contacts the one butcher that we didn't kill? Are we really that unlucky?

I've been that unlucky before

Mx. Marshall Serrano

And Medium can ask a neutral question to check if the person we kill is town aligned or not.

Well with the medium, if we do manage to lynch the other townie then the medium can ask if he really was a townie or not

15:16

But at the point there could be more dead, so you never know

Horace Gardner

Should we kill a butcher

Honestly wouldn't

18:29

For now

18:30

They aren't a very strong threat atm

Should I claim runner or is it too obvious?

Maybe Huntress