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@Kokichi Oma has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Ibuki Mioda @Kokichi Oma

hello new friend

hello

02:07

hi

02:08

why did you create a cc?

just come to say, careful with how much you say in town. if you are strong town.

yeah

i realized

02:08

tried to backtrack

eep. well, hmm

do you have any advice

wonder if there is anything we can do to help you lol

02:09

well, there are big reads that arent necessarily relevant made by ddd (the one making the list)

02:09

so you could just lay into him for being scum for pointing that out

02:10

cuz that is pretty scummy for making it that obvious

yeah

im not gonna break character, so i wont be the one doing it, just saying, you can def lean into that, and imo, he does seem scummy for doing that

see im new

yeah, i get it

02:11

thats why i jumped in here

so idk if me saying "X person is scummy" would do much (edited)

02:11

yeah

02:11

thank you

Kokichi Oma

im not gonna break character, so i wont be the one doing it, just saying, you can def lean into that, and imo, he does seem scummy for doing that

do you normally troll?

02:11

wait that sounded mean

02:11

i just meant

02:11

how do you normally play

umm.... its not mean at all lmao

02:11

i like to change my strat every game

02:12

but yes, i do love to troll

that's a good idea

02:12

trolling is good!

02:12

but yeah i really should have asked about the role in my channel

02:12

i guess i thought i could like. fake "dumb player asks about roles in general"

trolling gets people riled up ive noticed, which helps for reads sometimes

but

(shouldnt be telling you this lmao

it did not work

Kokichi Oma

trolling gets people riled up ive noticed, which helps for reads sometimes

nah ive done it on occasion

02:13

i just can not read anyone rn

02:13

i think you seem town though

02:13

i can't really think of why a mafia player would offer advice to a bad play

02:13

would be in the benefit of them to just have me basically out my role more

lmao.... do i? with all my claiming to be wolf and that?

02:13

well thanks.

Ibuki Mioda

i can't really think of why a mafia player would offer advice to a bad play

ah yeah, makes sense

do you think i should claim to you?

but i just want you to live longer seeing as its your first game too.... so even if i was scum i would prolly help if i could

yeah idt im living long at all this game lol

02:15

i already messed up pretty bad

umm.... doesnt really make sesne (from a meta stand point) to claim to me, since you have no info on me, besides my social read of helping you.

i guess so

02:15

see this only confirms you're not scummy

and im not gonna tell you what i am incase you are actually super big brain behind the "oops"

yeah i wasn't going to ask you for a claim lol

i mean, ive said all of my thoughts, and if you still insist on claiming, then go ahead, i am town. but in the meta sense, it doesnt exactly add to trusting me fully.... or at least i wouldnt claim, but im overly cautious most times

ahh okay

02:18

so i should be more careful? sorry for all the questions

02:18

this isn't even my first mafia game but i still feel stupidly lost

02:18

can't read anyone :" )

no worries, ask away

02:20

umm... being careful is kind of funny, people get reads off of crazy things, its kind of part of the game to get people off guard

02:20

my strat sometimes anyways..... call someone out for something stupid and see how they react.

if they have aggressive reaction, they're mafia?

02:21

does this mean your reads have more substance behind them than they normally would be taken as (edited)

and even if you dont defend your arguement, watch who comes to whos aid and maybe figure out team alegances based on that

Ibuki Mioda

does this mean your reads have more substance behind them than they normally would be taken as (edited)

sometimes lol.... i like staying chaotic.

ahh we call that "stapling"

not always looking to read, just trying to keep unpredictable. but that also becomes predictable i think.... its a fine line

02:23

and dont overthink things..... which well... that is my biggest fault in this

i overthink too :0

anyways. thats all i have for advice, incase you are wolf. but i dont think you are. mainly, my dinner is here so i have to go

alright! thank you

but feel free to ask questions as much as you want, and hopefully you dont die tonight

i hope so too

@Kokichi Oma what's an angel

Angel wants to be lynched. If they get lynched then they kill the person they picked if that person voted for them on the lynch.

Angel [Unaligned Killing]

Basics

The Angel wins when they are lynched.

Details (1/2)

When the Angel wins, the Angel ascends and stops playing and the game continues. In addition, the following lynch will be canceled. The Angel may select a player that dies when the Angel is lynched, if this player has voted for the Angel when the Angel is lynched, it is announced and they will also die. The Angel may change their target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Angel wants to. The Angel cannot select themself. Targetting a player is an immediate effect. The Angel may choose to target nobody. If they haven’t selected a (valid) target, a random player that has voted for the Angel is selected instead. If the Angel is lynched by unusual means (e.g. by the invisible Stalker votes or the Executioner selecting them) the player responsible for this will die with the Angel. If nobody except the Angel has voted for the Angel, the Angel dies and does not win.

Details (2/2)

If the Angel's target didn't vote for the Angel, but did put invisible votes on the Angel, they are considered a valid target.

oh like venegeful executioner

03:02

*jester

You can look at any role by typing “;role”

ahh ty

Eg…. ;angel

Actually, I’ll tell you this for free. This game is weird in that, there are so many reads on d0. Normally this is a day of pretty much silence.

Kokichi Oma

Actually, I’ll tell you this for free. This game is weird in that, there are so many reads on d0. Normally this is a day of pretty much silence.

Do the reads actually have any substance behind it

My reads?

No, in general; you said there were "so many" reads on d0

Oh, yeah, I mean, they can def work…. For example, reading you because of a slip up of sorts. That works. Same with reading others for what they do when accused. But like I said, day 0 is normally really quiet, it’s not until day 1 after a night kill and when town needs a mayor that people start digging into roles and such.

17:03

So I was saying it’s odd that so many people have been read on day 0/ night 1

Ahh

Kokichi Oma

Oh, yeah, I mean, they can def work…. For example, reading you because of a slip up of sorts. That works. Same with reading others for what they do when accused. But like I said, day 0 is normally really quiet, it’s not until day 1 after a night kill and when town needs a mayor that people start digging into roles and such.

Do you have any hunch on why mafia killed ddd in particular?

I’m still trying to figure that out

17:17

I think that may have been town killing, cuz ddd seemed scum to me

17:17

And wolves may have attacked someone that doesn’t die right away, but if Val is idiot, not sure if he said he was attacked or not.

17:18

I’ll get back to you on that.

Kokichi Oma

And wolves may have attacked someone that doesn’t die right away, but if Val is idiot, not sure if he said he was attacked or not.

Did Val claim idiot?

17:19

Isn't the probability of wolves shooting higher than the probability of town shooting

Oh, I didn’t see that he changed his claim to runner.

17:23

Val is claiming runner now. Who could have been attacked by wolves. But according to the coroner ddd was attacked by wolves. (edited)

17:23

Could be lies in there somewhere.

Kokichi Oma

I think that may have been town killing, cuz ddd seemed scum to me

Ahh in mafia games town kill power holsters their shot n1

17:42

Is it the opposite here?

Naw, town kill doesn’t normally kill n1 here either. Could have also been solo, that would make more sense.

17:43

Maybe ddd just straight up got killed by wolves. Occams razor.

Yeah that is the most likely explanation lol

17:44

You know that

17:45

In a hypothetical universe, what would happen if I got a scum report

Wait until there is a town confirmed and they become town lead. They will gather claims and when they do so that’s when you give the scum report

I see

17:46

What if I get killed prior to getting the scum report though

17:46

*giving it out

I’m guessing that either today we’ll have a confirmed. But if not today, tomorrow is the big day seeing as town reporter has to be town. Mayor isn’t as important to be town, mayor is just a stepping stone to get to reporter

Alright thanks

So I guess. If you’re worried about dying, reach out to someone in a cc that seems least suss, and talk to them and try to get a read on them. Dying with the info would suck, but also giving info to scum would suck more.

17:50

It’s a tough call if you are a powerful role. Powerful tend to play very cautious.

Why would giving info to scum suck more?

17:50

If I had a "this person is part of the wolf pack" report, hypothetically speaking

Oh, I guess in the that sense it’s not as bad. Sorry, was thinking it was a general report. So yeah, I guess not as bad

17:51

But if you have scum, you could tell me and I’ll accuse them, to keep you hidden.

17:53

I’m sort of trying to play chaos though, so my accusations might not be trusted. That said, I do have a sort of trusty person I’ve been talking to also, I could pass it along to them.

How is said person trusty?

Well, they have been playing pretty towny…. Not confirmed or anything, I just believe they are town is all

Can you tell them

17:54

"Huck is part of the wolfpack" por favor

Lol, okay. Been trying to tell them that the whole game.

18:00

Is that what you saw?

‍♀️ not sure how much I should tell you

I mean, if you think I’m in the pack then don’t tell me anything. But I have a feeling that I’ve been tanned lmao. Which is funny cuz I’ve been claiming Tanner the whole game.

18:02

Anyways, I need to go for like an hour, but this is fun news.

Kokichi Oma

I mean, if you think I’m in the pack then don’t tell me anything. But I have a feeling that I’ve been tanned lmao. Which is funny cuz I’ve been claiming Tanner the whole game.

Why would tanner tan you?

18:02

And why would tanner tan you as wolf?

18:02

Nvm

18:02

I am stupid

I don’t know, but as it stands, I wouldn’t trust me if that’s the info you have on me.

19:48

But I can say that if you did read me as wolf, that’s incorrect.

I think the reason Tanner may have tanned me is cuz that would link the Tanner up with the pack, and since I’ve been playing scummy I may have been a safe bet for them.

Ahh

Tanner is packless. But if they tan someone in the pack, that person is informed who the Tanner is. Which links the Tanner up with the pack.

Right

So it’s good that they did me cuz they would have wasted a disguise on someone that’s not in the pack.

20:40

Aka, my chaos has worked for something.

So you're confident you got tanned right

20:41

I think that's plausible

Well, you said you read me as scum right?

Yeah I was a bit sus of you when you cced me

20:42

So I guess people could have thought that too

20:42

And tanned you

Well, I Cced you to give you advice tbh.

Nono

20:42

Like

Oh, I see what you’re saying

Before you cced me I was a bit sus

20:42

And when you cced me

20:42

I wanted to check

Right.

If you were wolf pack ornnot

20:43

So then incould have trusted town

Yeah, I wanted wolves to waste their time on me.

That's a really smart play

20:43

Hmm

20:43

I guess

Ty Ty

You think we should vote out derp right?

You don’t have to trust me, cuz for all you know I could be lying, but I’m just giving you some info cuz I trust you are town.

Also I have a question

20:44

You realized that derpy was lying about being coroner right

20:44

Why not out him immediately

Yeah, derp kind of screwed themselves and I think is back peddling with their riding hood claim.

20:45

I was talking with someone else about it and when they realized derp was scum I think they outted them. I was afk when it was realized.

20:46

I only came back when derp was already called out.

20:47

Yeah, I asked that question under direction of someone else, but then had to leave for a bit. Bad timing I know, but was going to address it when I got back. But by the time I got back, the other person had already done the work.

Ahhh

(Other person being krem I think)

Hmm

20:49

Do you think there's a chance I got redirected?

Umm, doubtful. From me to someone else?

Yeah fair enough

Cuz I’m not assistant.

Assistant [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Assistant may select a player to redirect one werewolf action to. The action cannot be an attack.

Details

The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. The Assistant may choose to target nobody, which will stop their power from being used. When the Assistant is affected by a wolfish player's power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolfish player being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

@Host how many roles actually have redirections?

Shouldn't you probably claim to me rn?

Not many I don’t think.

20:53

Yeah, I’m a citizen. Which is why I’ve been playing so chaotic. If I was a strong role I would prolly stay more quiet. But cits (in my playstyle) need to be proactive to help earn trust.

Kokichi Oma

Yeah, I’m a citizen. Which is why I’ve been playing so chaotic. If I was a strong role I would prolly stay more quiet. But cits (in my playstyle) need to be proactive to help earn trust.

Oh that makes sense actuslly

20:53

Is a citizen just

20:53

No role power?

Citizen is just nothing.

20:53

They exist

20:54

That’s all

No way

20:54

That's so unlucky

Meh, I kind of like cit, cuz I can be as crazy as I want to be without real consequences.

What's the probability of getting citizen lol

If wolves kill me that’s fine, cuz they aren’t a good kill. Rather lose a cit than a strong town role.

20:55

Umm, normally there are like 2 cits in a game.

Yikes

But that’s not 100% accurate. Just in my experience.

Pretty low probability I guess

Don’t tell town I’m cit though, I’m telling some other people I’m angel. Trying to confuse some ppl that I’m not sure of their alignment.

Also one more question

I’ll tell the town lead what’s going on when there is one.

Why would tanner

20:57

Tan a person into wolf ever

20:57

Shouldn't they tan people into town

20:57

It's better for Mafia is town trusts the wrong person

20:58

Not if a person is wrongfully lynched

20:58

They get informed either way

Well, it can go both ways really. If you tan randoms into wolves, then they get checked (like happened to me) then they can be a lynch target. Less likely to hit wolf pack than town. But also yeah, you can tan people into town if you think they are wolves…. It’s all just how they want to read the people I guess.

20:59

But honestly, I don’t know what the Tanner is doing so I can’t speak for them.

Kokichi Oma

@Host how many roles actually have redirections?

$i redirections list will tell you

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