Werewolves Revamped - dead

Players | Total: 19

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- @Alphaluf (Grandma) yes

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- @Captain Luffator (Devil) yes

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- @Steinyhawk (Pack Tanner) yes

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- @K4tyH4wk (Cerberus) yes

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- @5tho (Assistant) yes

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️ - @WhyLouch_ (Citizen) yes

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- @themist_ (Huntress) yes

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- @voidumm0 (Aura Teller) yes

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- @im_korv0 (Corrupt Wolf) yes

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- @potpotkorv55 (Tanner) yes

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- @☠ Huck ☠ (Crowd Seeker) yes

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- @Nickickic (Lone Warlock) yes

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- @Phantomeric (Sneaking Wolf) yes

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- @Fe D. Erick (Assistant) yes

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- @Jeanindou (Hooker) yes

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- @babibsoul (Witch) yes

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️ - @The8thEclair (Tracking Wolf) yes

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- @Sharl Ebirds (Citizen) (edited)

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- @vikimousbirds (Despot) (edited)

the krubylin pinned a message to this channel. 27-Jun-23 03:01 PM

Sharl Ebirds

15:39

The8thEclair

errr

17:33

should i be able to speak in the sub channel?

17:33

@Host

no

oh i can

fixed

thanks

17:36

also how advance is this bot

17:36

like i know it can handle custom roles (edited)

17:37

but what's the limits?

the bot doesn't have any role specific things

17:38

so that question is hard to answer

17:38

only the elected roles have a bit of hardcoding as they bot needs to be aware of the roles and such

17:39

our "custom" roles are a system of giving somebody 2 roles, the first one being "Custom" and the second one being the role data, but that just avoids adding the role to the bot

17:39

all roles are already dynamic

so it's based on powers?

I'm not sure what you mean?

like take for instance say wolf

most powers like investigation and disguising and stuff are done by hosts and not by bot

huh

17:41

cool

wolf is defined as a role here https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/blob/main/werewolves/miscellaneous/wolf and as a member of wolfpack here https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Roles/blob/main/channels/command/multi/wolfpack other than that there's nothing to the role (edited)

say if i wanted to make a role called the thing at had 3 abilities devour assimilation and disguise then it would be just a role then it's party and then up to the host?

yea

huh

the only thing the bot automatically does is initial setup

17:43

like assigning the negative vote for trickster and creating whispers channels for roles like devil (edited)

see that is what i wanted our mafia bot to do

17:44

but it would take a major overhaul/ground up redoing

ive been thinking about more automization a lot, but it's just not really something that can be easily done

17:45

unless you hardcode it into the bot

17:45

which I really don't want to do

yeah

17:46

it also leads to alot of headache if discord changes it code or how bots work again

yea

17:46

and that's already bad enough as is

17:46

pretty much everything tends to break like once a year

yup it's like wrack a mole

17:50

also how does one go about pitching a game

17:50

or a setup

i mean you just suggest it

17:51

most likely it will lead to nothing but who knows

also is this bot open source

Ik us GMs can see the code

17:57

Idk about anyone else

wow being bullied in town and i can't even respond

17:58

this is hell

Les_fantome

also is this bot open source

yea https://github.com/McTsts/Werewolves-Bot

GitHub - McTsts/Werewolves-Bot: Discord Bot for Werewolves

Discord Bot for Werewolves. Contribute to McTsts/Werewolves-Bot development by creating an account on GitHub.

would yall mind if i share something to luffy

18:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdIJtuRrGU&ab_channel=TerranceZdunich-Topic

Terrance Zdunich - Topic

Grace for Sale

I mean if you don’t want to see the bullying you can just stop spectating lmao

Hi

Hi Raven

damn

02:38

warlock N1 is good for wolves

IKR they got lucky

wolves can fake AT

MASSIVE wolf L

yea...

Rigged

massively

potpotkorv55

Rigged

you're still the mvp in my eyes cause you saved us from having to reset a 3rd time bc i did a major goof that somehow worked out

I'm confused now did wolves kill me or was I subbed out (edited)

12:02

Ok wolves killed me

12:02

Rigged

wolves killed you

12:02

sharl was subbed out

you got fucked over by the random rolls pensive_clown

This is a load of bullcrap

12:06

Tf when did I claim hooker

sometimes people are a bit silly in this game

I love when I randomly get a notification from the hmtreasury discord server

Chad kremblin

12:12

why is stein suggesting to disguise phantom thonk

Wait Krem why are you in that server?

12:14

primarily for the larry the cat emote

12:14

also im british

GASP

12:15

Scary

Scary British man

yes

I challenge you to a duel

okay but i warn you. i am very proficient at throwing rocks

No I mean like a gun duel

yeah and while you're busy lining up your shot i've already thrown a rock at you

Well yes but when you threw it a leaf landed on your face and you missed

gah cursed trees this is why the mining industry hates you

the shape

ARE YOU BRITISH TOO?!?!?!?!

no

12:22

im from moldova

Ok good and not good

the shape

no

Don’t you currently live in London tho?

i can live in london and be moldovan

Fair sorry I just woke up brain not thinking

the shape

i can live in london and be moldovan

God help your soul

the krubylin

primarily for the larry the cat emote

There's a Larry emote

13:20

Demon [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

The Demon wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. Just like the devil the Demon can use the hell team's pool of souls.

Details

During the first phase, the Demon may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Demon's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Demon may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Demon is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Demon. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way.

Nah people really be saying "tanner can disguise" meanwhile the tanner is fucking dead

people dont expect wolves to accidentally kill their own teammates but you just got lucky this time aronund

Ikr i'm so lucky

That’s the risk of wolfpack random kills (edited)

Jay why are you signing everything as

the shape

(edited)

Swurtle

Jay why are you signing everything as

the shape

(edited)

Because they're the shape?

so who is good with art and colors

00:03

and lighting

why didn't wolves ctc hooker tho thonk

No idea lmao

Ez

wolves really aren't on the ball this game so far

Wolves bad

How they have Phan, Stein, and 8th in the pack tho

Brain fart

if they actually kill whythough it'd be very funny

02:26

but i dont think they will

Nick found Vera. I’m glad Vera got despot since they seem happy with it lmao.

i think theyre just glad to not be responsible for the fuckups of any team T-T

I think they’re just glad they don’t have to work with idiots or just anyone lmao

I just realized the banning Ts event is now how can we ban him if he’s host lmao

03:25

@the shape how are we banning Ts lmao

we ask evil ts to do it

03:36

the shape

Hell yea

12:01

LOL

12:01

Tanner kill

Honestly L moment

Thank god i confirmed hooker

it was a great play

Ty ❤️

i have no idea why people had a problem with it

12:07

i also think wolves messed up with that kill

12:07

never remove your own claimspace

Was it random

no

Lmao

I am glad i kind of confirmed WT early

it was great

12:28

could have been bad if WT was pack

12:28

wolves also fucked up by just not claiming here

I considered WT being pack

12:31

But he replied way too fast

12:31

Too much iniative to be wolf

12:32

Or pack

the pt claiming huntress is a MASSIVE bungle on wolves' part

12:34

that's the only role that won't show up as a threat to at

wolves have bungled quite a few times this game it seems

Carried town again, unreal

fed best town always

12:38

can't stop won't stop

Yus

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123922864458965035

13:06

Shouldn’t Snivy be in this cc?

@Steinyhawk hi stin

Hopefully arch is good at reading people

theyre currently planning to lynch suso and 8th

@the shape can you bully suso after game ends for this https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123328491899863150/1123347017897365554

the krubylin

theyre currently planning to lynch suso and 8th

Suso couldnt have been pack bc he would have counterclaimed hooker during day

13:27

I figured that much

13:28

But also he deserves it for bullying my epic plans (edited)

Fe D. Erick

@the shape can you bully suso after game ends for this https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123328491899863150/1123347017897365554

yes

You forgot something

13:30

Oh you dont do it here

13:30

Lmao

13:34

Its always funny when people read me as scum when im town

13:34

Bc I am so bad at playing wolf

the idea to have several rep candidates is good in theory but in practice if arch is killed a few minutes before phase change wolves aren't gonna change their votes and some town won't be online so it probably won't help them

Fe D. Erick

Its always funny when people read me as scum when im town

Same here lmao

This was my worry

14:21

They are relying on Investigative checks

also does arch remember that he got corrupted lol

Does it give -2 votes

it gives -1

14:22

it would give -2 if there were <15 people

14:22

but he is currently mayor +15

Ah

14:23

LOL https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1123951546678386819

goofing

14:24

if val claims at now theyd better lynch him

Most coordinated pack

I really dont get why town still so heavily relies on TI

because nobody knows how to read

Its so painful

wwr has always been more reliant on gamesolving than reading and it's one of those things that drives my desire to play more mafia

14:41

we can't start suddenly introducing heavily unsolvable games because that will screw with the balance. having said that i may try it for g2

I think you should try not putting any TI in

we did have a game without any TI recently (s9g5? something like that) but the list was rather flawed in other ways so it wasn't a great example imo

14:42

i can primary next game and make a less solvey list

14:43

you're welcome to backup for me if you want?

omg yes

hell yeah

Bestie hosting

14:44

Hopefully it ends before 13th tho

if we open signups the day after this resets then it'll be fine

14:45

this game will probably be over by the 2nd/3rd, reset on the 4th, open signups on the 5th and start game on the 7th

Sounds good

I'm loving this triple AT claim

14:49

AT is a really interesting claim for cerb, I wouldn't have considered it myself

14:49

not sure it was the best option but it's working out for now it seems?

TI is claimspace this game basically

14:50

Just useless in every way so claiming it is easy

the shape

because nobody knows how to read

WWR is the mafia for people who don’t know how to read lmao

How did that work out for you swurt

Well considering last game not well lmao

Lol

And considering I played a mafia game recently and hated it albeit I was stuck as Cit but still

Katy is at a big disadvantage here

15:03

CS can check them

Swurtle

WWR is the mafia for people who don’t know how to read lmao

WWR is mafia for people who are active on discord

15:30

people really will complain about les being ingame because he "pings too much" and then wonder why town square dries up so much

15:30

like, the pinging is directly correlated with public activity, guys

15:30

this isn't about vera bc i don't think they've ever complained about pings

Devil team seems kinda screwed rn

15:40

If they dont wager a wolf

15:42

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123575992045277195/1123971518955782175

they have been wagering wolves

15:42

wolves are just being exceptionally silly

Arch is not french???

arch is indonesiab (edited)

15:42

wait no

WTF

indonesian?

yeah

WTF

gonna get a good grade in wws lore

Epic https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1123971883168182302

i mean france also isn't very safe at night

Yea those people will smack you with baguettes as if baseball bats at night

Fe D. Erick

Epic https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1123971883168182302

WAHAHAHA

15:46

correct priorities tho

Fed why are you so bad with nationalities lmao

I am good at nationalities smh

15:47

You people just lie to me

It’s not gaslighting if it’s true

So are you meeting me, katy, bart, marten and vera in 14 days swurtle

15:49

Since you are dutch

I’m gonna be jetlaggef AF if I do come also what ever happened to me being British lmao

You said you had an american accent

15:51

I thought you were dutch

15:53

Arch forgot about the -1

Fe D. Erick

I thought you were dutch

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/992542647019376690/1121491569288171621

15:53

Lies

Smh

15:55

Also this is looking like a town win

wolfpack please T-T

Wolves L

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235808648900608/1123890916189536368

17:23

Ts can still update the bot as evil Ts

17:23

so that’s how we can ban Ts

have wolves reached out to nick yet

18:37

bc they really should if they havent like waht

they wanted to last night but val fucked up

Why do they trust important shit to Val?

well considering he's cw they didn't actually have a choice so

well nick is getting lynched so they really should reach out now

19:05

i mean, if nick was despot then he would probably not be getting lynched

i think phanotm is tanner

Nope

Holy fucking shit

20:32

I just found covers of classic italian music by an american singer who previously did Metal

20:32

That is wild

@Jeanindou NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Wow

20:48

Fuck that

20:48

Alpha come online pleasw

20:48

We planned this

alpha was online a few minutes ago

ALPHA

20:49

IM SCREAMING

20:51

This is fucking chaos lmao

if town gets a reporter out of this it'll be a miracle

20:52

vera is so obviously despot at this point

20:52

i get they have to try at every given opportunity but still

This is infuriating to watch

20:52

ALPHA

several people are typing

good that i quit

Ok WT is getting it

20:53

PHEW

I mean louch is fine too

20:54

But he is a newbie

???

20:54

He has been playing since S1

Huh

20:54

??

louch is new lol

OH

20:54

I thought that was WT

yeahhh town isnt getting rep

20:55

scum isn't gonna unvote arch

20:55

unless smth changes in 5 minutes

Arch doesn't count

20:55

They are dead

ohhh

20:55

right right

20:55

i forgot how that works lol

Why is vera being nice to me

20:56

Thanks, i guess? I guess i did them a favor by changing huntress target too

Arch I'm gonna need to bully you after phase ends

It'll give an error tho

Evil Than

It'll give an error tho

i mean we elect manually

20:56

so it doesnt really matter

The poll closing will

Why bully me?

eh it'll be fine

Jeanindou

Why bully me?

I did the best play in the world and you doubted me as town

LMAO

How do I always manage to carry town

You can be wolf and do that then

No

im surprised wolves aren't trying to tie rep

That's just lunacy to think that I would do that

@Fe D. Erick you made me proud

❤️

21:00

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235799547256862/1124051600680439938

21:00

I'm gonna scream

21:00

That's D2 because they were getting repo LIKE I SAID

yeah

the shape

like, the pinging is directly correlated with public activity, guys

that's what people don't realize

Oh no error nice

that if i didn't ping scum would win

Oh the error is caused by a dead player voting maybe

21:02

Idk there used to be an error

It doesnt do errors

It does

Welcome @The8thEclair @Nickickic

the shape

wwr has always been more reliant on gamesolving than reading and it's one of those things that drives my desire to play more mafia

i want to see this bot host a actual mafia game

21:05

just to see if it can

It can

21:05

but idk how mafia is

If you kill louch snivy dies lol

21:07

#wolfpack

21:08

ALPHA

Ok this is between Town and Hell team now

Les_fantome

i want to see this bot host a actual mafia game

We got Russians

Epic storytime

huh that might help...

21:10

i keep kick around a the thing setup

Nick is the only one ingame who appreciated my tryhard play

Totally didn't mess up lol

i can write you the storytime krem

arch should really just cc lauch

21:14

not arch#

21:14

alpha

21:14

arch is perished

21:14

also wow the wolves never contacted nick despite knowing he's most likely packless

Night 3 | Chaos On The Street As the night got closer, anarchy reigned supreme. "Lynch! Lynch! Lynch!" cheered the townsfolk, fully convinced of what to do. As the cheers got louder, a shot had surprisingly gotten rid of the previous reporter candidate, so in a struggle they had to choose the next person to elect. As is the case with democracy, only the best choice wins (even if that choice sucks) - and that choice was @ REPORTER. I hoped there would be no violence once again, but the townsfolk got back to cheering for deaths, so @ nick and @ 8th had their heads cut off. (edited)

21:18

@the krubylin if u wanna edit it in

21:19

or you can just ignore

At least the lynch today was good

ARCH

21:19

WHY WERE YOU STILL RELYING ON TI

21:19

I wanted to scream

???

21:19

Wdym

I did not rely on TI if there are a trillion ATs wtf

Get good at reading people smh

10/10 storytime i approve

❤️

also shoutout to snivy not tanning anyone

lmao

the krubylin

also shoutout to snivy not tanning anyone

Probably busy the one day he got subbed

well he was online

21:22

quite a bit

21:22

and spoke in wolfpack

the krubylin

also does arch remember that he got corrupted lol

I did and if yall havent noticed, i unvoted before i died lol

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235799547256862/1124057837379793068

21:26

I think he didn't realise theryou didn't mention him anywhere

Yeah

21:26

Left ambiguous

21:27

Louch talk in grandma cc omg

21:27

Chat

alpha y'all have a cc to confirm you pleeease

21:27

you look so sus

And contact babi

@Jeanindou how did you plan to announce if you were dead?

They made a cc

We planned to make alpha announce it

alpha was supposed to add people to it

We had the confirmed cc and all

21:28

But he was busy

Did you tell him about the cc?

Well yea

Like make sure he knew exactly what he was doing

it was his idea

Yea alpha made the cc

Well either way, reporter huntress is on snivy

21:31

that should confirm the info in a neat way

21:32

for the next day

21:34

Feel so bad for huck lol

21:34

he always acts so towny and is never trusted

True

21:35

I said in trusted chat before, im so tempted to add him

Alive Players | Total: 14

- alphaviki (@Alphaluf)

- captainluffy (@Captain Luffator)

- katyhawk (@K4tyH4wk) gibagul

- 5uso (@5tho)

️ - wwhythough (@WhyLouch_) hepi

- thelauch_ (@themist_)

- voidmist (@voidumm0)

- im_dumm0 (@im_korv0)

- huckhuck55 (@☠ Huck ☠)

- phantomtomic (@Phantomeric)

- mister.turtle (@Mr. Snirtle)

- nottinghamshire (@Turvy-Ace)

- babibdou (@babibsoul)

- venomousbirds (@vikimousbirds) (edited)

so 1 UA 8 Town 3 Wolves 2 Hell

21:38

If Town doesn't fuck up they can win

Lauch please

If Lauch doesn't give the results to grandma i will permanently quit playing wws

Man this is why we refrained from voting Lauch despite looking towny lol. No offense

YESSS FINALLY

21:53

THANKS LOUCH

Evil Than

Idk there used to be an error

i think i changed it

Les_fantome

that's what people don't realize

it annoys me immensely

phantom acting like he could not have just cc'd nick thonque

22:20

i get they didnt know for sure but he was about to die like huh

Nick was barely there lol

i noticed last game that nick doesn't really care about the games

22:26

he is very flippant

crying https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1124073359630680124

Im confused as to why wolves didnt kill alpha

22:31

I mean i guess we should be contacting the witch

LOL

22:39

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123742418940993557/1124076167683657818

22:39

Huck still being goated

I mean yeah. He is MVP!! im sorry huck for not adding u sooner

Jeanindou

Im confused as to why wolves didnt kill alpha

SAME

Vera im sorry it sucks to lose as UA lol

22:58

Happened to me b4 as psycho

22:59

But as a town we must put forward our wincon first

I kind of screwed them over by confirming you early as well lol

despot feels very hard to win as unless you get randomly lucky at the start of the game

I feel like its one of the easier roles

the krubylin

despot feels very hard to win as unless you get randomly lucky at the start of the game

Leila once won the game after we changed it to remove the next election because town had dumb brain

23:08

It's not too hard

23:08

Just gotta think smart

Can someone type "L" here https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123569448939425852/1124081102814986280

i obviously havent seen the role in play very much but i kind of disagree

23:09

after town trusted is somewhat established the only way you can get elected is by faking your way into it or by teaming with wolves the latter is difficult as you have no way of finding wolves and the former is difficult as you have nothing to help you fake a role (edited)

23:09

if town is winning then despot victory is really hard imo

Yeah if I was still alive (with only a few wolves left), id hunt down the devil first and then i consider electing the despot as reporter.

23:15

We have the info anyway, and guardian isnt needed that much

the krubylin

after town trusted is somewhat established the only way you can get elected is by faking your way into it or by teaming with wolves the latter is difficult as you have no way of finding wolves and the former is difficult as you have nothing to help you fake a role (edited)

We did use it more when less town trusted were formed early on (wolves used to CTC things like hooker and runner so no confirmed til like D2) Lead to a few early despot wins

if katy pulls this off itll be insane

01:06

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235907181478040/1124103727805108284 "why"

LMAOOOOO

01:19

SO FUNNY

why is wolfpack trying to attack lauch when it's fairly obvious that if witch is alive he will be protected thonk

01:23

plus even if they do not think that, killing lauch not only proves snivy as scum but theoretically could kill another wolf

If i and fed end up to be the only towns who died ill be very proud

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235827611349002/1124102412899205260

01:29

Im gonna scream

01:30

I literally do this every game wtf vera

poor alpha he needs a break T-T

did wolves make any correct decisions this game

LMAO

okay their N1 kill wasn't their fault

01:52

but their N2 and N3 kills have been basically the worst possible options each time and they even managed to mess up who claims what

Will snivy take that devil offer

they honestly should

02:00

like

LMAO

they're so fucked even if they dont know tanner died

kill wont go thru tho, i think?

yeah...

02:00

well actually idk how it'd work if they both soul-kill and wolfpack kill louch

HUCK AND HIS CHAOTIC PLAYS

02:00

LOOK AT HIM

02:01

I PLAYED WEREWOLVES FOR MANY YEARS BUT THIS MAN REMAINS AN ENIGMA FOR ME LMAOOOO

huck really is one of the wwr players of all time

so dont blame me for not immediately trusting huck

02:01

Hes the type to claim some mechanically provable role for fun, and make up excuses for it

i really wanna see huck as solo but i actually dont remember if hes ever been solo

Can you believe krem didnt use my storytime

i didnt wanna mess up the formatting

02:06

if you want you can write the d3 one (edited)

Its ok, they will never see the bit about democracy working well

the krubylin

if you want you can write the d3 one (edited)

Sure

02:12

Day 3 | What's Next? The town slept safe and soundly for the night, but what was next? All the townsfolk gathered in the town square to see who the next person to die was. Having found the corpse, a few features visually stuck out on it. @ Ethan was dead. But wait. He wasn't playing, so the town just ignored it and moved on to the next corpse-- if there was one. There wasn't. Still, it was time to elect the mayor, and perhaps choose violence. (edited)

02:12

I assume nobody dies (edited)

it's perfect but i think we should kill ethan

I swear to all gods above ive been soulkilled more than any other player

04:26

Can someone count lmfao

Lol i love huck

Can i promote?

no

11:22

no promoting until the game is done

11:22

it's to keep the channels clean

11:22

(for the archiving)

IM GOING TO KMS??????

11:31

why is snivy investigating alpha!!!!!!!

11:31

phantom did that last night!!!!!!!!!!!

11:34

this is actually the LEAST coordinated pack i have ever seen and that is SAYING SOMETHING

11:34

jesus christ

WHY DIDNT SNIVY USE DEVIL KILL

LOL?????

11:40

if void dies then its over for devil and wolf team

11:40

it will expose the evils

11:40

especially hell team

@Mat8000 to summarise - 1. wolves killed tanner N1 (not their fault) and found (likely) lone warlock via tracking wolf. 2. phantom told val (CW) to corrupt nick N2 so they could communicate. val did not do this. 3. wolves killed federick, known assistant, N2, removing a useless role and their own claimspace in the process. 4. pack managed to mess up claims so bad that the pack tanner, the only member that doesn't register as a threat to AT, was the one claiming huntress, and val claimed AT two phases after the other two AT claims were made. 5. wolves got wagers N1, 2, and 3. val did nothing N1 on phantom's advice. phantom checked alpha N2. snivy, on N3.... checked alpha. 6. phantom and val are now killing lauch... a known huntress claim and snivy's ctc. except val just switched to killing void, who is his own ctc. lmao. lol, even. 7. oh, and nick got lynched yesterday, and wolves didn't even reach out. (edited)

THEY FOUND NICK ????

11:43

WITH TW

11:44

BROOO????

11:44

AND THEY DIDNT CONTACT

they found nick N1, wanted to contact him via CW, val fucked up

Tracking Wolf [Werewolf Investigative]

Basics

Each night, the Tracking Wolf may find out how much of a threat a player is to the pack.

Details

Each night, the Tracking Wolf may check the category of a player's role to find out how much of a threat they are to the pack. The Tracking Wolf only learns how much of a threat the player is and not the role's category. For townsfolk and solo categories, investigative and killing roles are considered a major threat; power, recruitment and group roles a significant threat; and miscellaneous roles a slight threat. Werewolf killing roles are considered a slight threat. All other werewolf roles, as well as all unaligned roles, are not considered a threat. The Tracking Wolf’s check is an immediate ability. The Tracking Wolf is affected by strong disguises and redirections, but not by obstructions.

because tbf he could've been assistant or despot

11:45

only wolf who didn't do something silly (apart from helping kill fed, his own ctc) was 8th i think

11:45

but he died because uh sussy baka i guess

yea i figured that since suso and fed was cs verified, i had to pick between 8th and luffy

11:46

and i think luffy is more towny

11:47

actually... i was tempted to pick luffy as a 2nd lynch but the AT triangle threw me off

wolves should be aware they're losing massively here and yet they're doing nothing with devil

11:47

they're not even killing the person they know is town lead

Bleh I'm awake

11:48

Wolves are goofing SO HARD

why suso out of blueLMFAo

WAIT EVEN FUNNIER

They are still attacking the huntress claim?

snivy asked val if he'd kill void with him and val said "okay" and then DIDN'T DO IT

Incredible

quite frankly hell should've had a chance at winning but wolves were so bad that they didn't

11:50

luffy has done nothing but exceptional wager targets and katy has chosen good cerb targets

LOL

11:51

well.... idk how to feel about this

you did really well, fed did really well

11:51

alpha is doing great too

11:51

none of it was necessary

LMAO VAL

12:00

poor snivy

Fe D. Erick

Day 3 | What's Next? The town slept safe and soundly for the night, but what was next? All the townsfolk gathered in the town square to see who the next person to die was. Having found the corpse, a few features visually stuck out on it. @ Ethan was dead. But wait. He wasn't playing, so the town just ignored it and moved on to the next corpse-- if there was one. There wasn't. Still, it was time to elect the mayor, and perhaps choose violence. (edited)

@the shape this is the storytime if you want

krem is doing stories

yeah use it

12:03

damn

@the krubylin

on it boss sorry

12:05

was clearing wager and offer

good job

12:05

employee of the month

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235827611349002/1124291373491834900

12:53

Huck was probably tired lol

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1123693153095012494

13:34

is that poll code intended

LOL

antisemitism in wwr?

13:40

sooooo

13:40

luffy's gonna be lynched

13:40

what are the odds of him begging for town to leave him alone in exchange for a wolf name / friendly town wager

13:41

i say very high

Jeanindou

is that poll code intended

it was not

Absurd. Weird. Strange

15:05

happy marriage btw :3 @the shape

He has 2 more weddings afterwards lmao

And?

You should of made it marriages instead lmao

no. I'm gonna do it again for every one

15:55

(this is not a guarantee or a promise)

thank you mat im so excited for my wedding

You mean weddings you have more afterwards Jay lmao

hell should just soul kill alpha tbh

18:00

and hope that trust in town trusted is too low for anything to be organised

18:02

oh so luffy is just claiming devil

the krubylin

hell should just soul kill alpha tbh

If Luffy is lynched then hell lose their soul gaining abilities but Katy gets auto protection

18:46

We need to start adding hell to both teams being underpowered lists

18:46

To encourage soul selling

why are they still hiding grandma

19:10

just say it, it's useless at this point

19:14

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123742418940993557/1124386099763089428

19:14

They got the whole list

19:14

nice

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1124400098160423002/1124401715240779816 lol

Evil Than

We need to start adding hell to both teams being underpowered lists

that wasn't the problem this game though

20:33

the problem was wolves sucking

We lich rally changed the role list to make wolves suck less

working together with your team is a requirement to win

wolf subjectives are gonna be abysmal

20:43

why do wolves think they can get away with a snipe lmao

20:43

i mean they can

20:43

but town has proven to still have witch

Jeanindou

what are the odds of him begging for town to leave him alone in exchange for a wolf name / friendly town wager

got it

Hell team carrying wolves

Wait are they planning to Soulkill turtle

theyre soulkilling arch

Thats so funny

not ARCH

20:48

ALPHA

Oh

you and alpha are the same person

Why would he be killing anyone tho, hell has 1 soul left

yeah but wolves sucking so bad screwed hell over

Snivy is sellin their soul now

it'll be SO FUNNY IF WOLVES DONT COME ONLINE FOR THIS

20:50

begging for that to happen

20:50

it'd be the pinnacle of wolf fuckups

That would be great

Uhh

katy is also not online

Wait if theres just cerb remaining

20:50

And snivy sells his soul

cerb cant use souls

20:50

lol

Yeah exactly

20:51

Hell loses

they dont lose

20:51

not immediately

20:51

theoretically if everyone except cerb and snivy died somehow they'd win

20:51

but they essentially lose

literally nobody has read the cerb description

20:51

including hosts

20:51

and players

highkey

If the Cerberus is the last living member of the Hell team/channel, they turn into a demon.

oh lmao

20:52

i did not read that

There's not going to be a Cerberus Offer

RIP

20:52

LMAOO

the krubylin

i did not read that

I don't think ANYONE did

Demon [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

The Demon wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. Just like the devil the Demon can use the hell team's pool of souls.

Details

During the first phase, the Demon may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Demon's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Demon may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Demon is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Demon. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way.

OH WHAT

20:52

LOL

Hell does not know about this, right?

yeah seems like it

It turns into Demon bc Demon is a soul user

this is so funny

20:52

the funniest shit of all time

20:52

this game is so goofy

Why does that exist lol

that sentence even has its own section in the desc

Fe D. Erick

Why does that exist lol

cause cerb is not a soul user

ah i see

so the ability to get souls is useless

20:53

so instead it gets the ability to use souls

huck is smart to vote for snivy tho

20:53

since he has -1 votes

mvp for a reason

shouldve corrupted someone who's less of a chad

fr

20:54

Yep this looks like a definitive town win

20:54

gg

tanner and/or warlock

20:55

massive L

20:55

they're dead bestieeee

20:57

this is such an L it's so funny

Yea it's hilarious seeing wolves wake up after 2/3s of their team died

20:58

also they literally knew nick was warlock wtf are they asking for

why are they voting on the lynch???

20:58

they won't beat town???

20:58

theyre outing themselves for NO reason

the krubylin

theyre outing themselves for NO reason

Wide brain plays

also omg welcome back ts

21:01

LMAO https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235799547256862/1124414267186229318

21:01

Sure luffy

21:01

Luffy

21:01

Wtf do you mean wolves win

I mean

21:01

Witch has potion and cerb cant offer prot anymore

21:02

So yeah ur not saving wolves lol

Cerb didnt even send out offer anyway

Oh

rip

I think there should be a rule that an announced action during Mid-day should extend the timer by like 5 minutes

No

Yeah that looks so unfair lol

21:06

Not everyone has good internet

Wtf do you mean no ethan lmao

Jeanindou

Not everyone has good internet

Skill issue?

What????

21:06

No???

he literally soulkilled 5 seconds and the midday action was announced at 9:00???

YEAH

There wasn't any time to react

It's part of the game :)

No it's not

We've had this happen before

if u live in a 1st world country stfu bro

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1124416322722340894 this is hilarious lmao

21:09

YOU DID WHAT

LMAO

We did it fellas - we ended world hunger, but only in this neighbourhood (edited)

Fe D. Erick

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1124416322722340894 this is hilarious lmao

i think wolves would win, if: • despot allies with them • witch doesnt kill a wolf

yeah they would have won if i killed alpha instead

21:12

i think

21:12

but i had to do turtle

babi is witch

21:12

not alpha

no alpha is grandpa

grandma doesnt matter if wolves play it smart (they wouldnt)

he thought turtle was witch

L

LMAO

well its fine, i made the game more entertainign at least

Fe D. Erick

I think there should be a rule that an announced action during Mid-day should extend the timer by like 5 minutes

we usually have a fifteen minute cut off, but i think this should be changed to a five minute cut off

Ive never heard of that, ever

Captain Luffator

well its fine, i made the game more entertainign at least

this is true

Nor seen it

the shape

we usually have a fifteen minute cut off, but i think this should be changed to a five minute cut off

the action was done 5 seconds before

5 minute cut off sounds fair enough

not 15 mins

the 15 minute thing is for end delay

it's been around for a while

21:15

but there are so few immediate day actions and even fewer that get delayed that it almost never happens

21:15

i have only ever seen it used for soulkills and even then only two or three times (edited)

21:15

but yeah I think having a five minute cut off for delayed/end day actions seems appropriate

21:16

same for end night immediate but that's less relevant

well this wasnt delayed

21:17

the 15 minute thing for delayed abilities has been around for a while

if grandma dies at night do votes still get yoinked

1

yes

rip wolves lmao

Barber, tanner, pack tanner, CF, hell soul kill are the only immediate day actions right?

TomTheCrust

well this wasnt delayed

yah that's kind of the point i was making to him yesterday about arch

the explanation for that is "the grandma steals the ballots for the next day's polls. Even if the Grandma dies the players that had their ballots stolen from are not able to get them back as they grandma hid them"

loving the lore

Evil Than

Barber, tanner, pack tanner, CF, hell soul kill are the only immediate day actions right?

pretty sure all foxes are immediate

oh shit we need storytime LMAO

21:18

on it

Huntress, Assistant, journalist, Ranger, Psychopath too

Evil Than

Barber, tanner, pack tanner, CF, hell soul kill are the only immediate day actions right?

Oh and fpc (this is weird)

they're not specifically day but they can be day

21:18

also Plague Doctor cure

21:18

and probably some others

Oh right PD and exo

Townsfolk Miscellaneous

Alcoholic

Assistant

Amnesiac

Bard

Bartender

Child

Citizen

Coroner

Cursed Civilian DevoutVillager

Devout Villager FortuneApprentice

Fortune Apprentice Idiot

Idiot

Journalist Macho

Macho

Ranger

Runner

Town Crier

Trickster

21:19

Disguised Fox [Werewolf Power]

Basics

Each day, the Disguised Fox may select a disguise, and the disguise will be announced to the Wolfpack. Once per game, the Disguised Fox may alternatively join the wolfpack as a regular wolf.

Details

Each day, the Disguised Fox may either select a disguise or choose to join the wolfpack. If the Disguised Fox does not select a disguise, they will be disguised as a citizen. The Disguised Fox's disguise is a strong disguise. If the Disguised Fox survives the day, the wolfpack is informed at the start of the night that a Disguised Fox has chosen a disguise and what the disguise is. The Disguised Fox's disguise wears off at the end of each night. The Disguised Fox is neither a lycan, nor a member of the wolfpack. If the Disguised Fox chooses to join the wolfpack, they may not select a disguise for that night, and will lose their power as they will become a regular wolf. Joining the wolfpack and selecting a disguise are immediate abilities.

what role was turtle

21:19

cit?

Oh right all foxes are immediate

Captain Luffator

cit?

Yep

Evil Than

Barber, tanner, pack tanner, CF, hell soul kill are the only immediate day actions right?

This is all I could find Journalist, Ranger, Assistant, Fletcher's Customer, Barber, Huntress, Mad Scientist, Amulet of Protection, Amulet Crafter, Exorcist, Fletcher, Herald, Royal Knight, Stalker, Archivist Fox (x3), Clairvoyant Fox (x2), Disguised Fox (x2), Baroness, Gallant Fox, Pack Tanner, Tanner, Angel, Hag, Vicious Hag, Prophetic Hag, Cautious Hag, Plague Doctor, Psychopath, Detective, Devil, Demon, Flute Charmer, Wisp

21:22

There's probably more still

21:22

~~Your list is pathetic and so are you~~

royal knight should be changed to end day

RK is immediate

21:23

Yeah

21:23

Well actually RK is weird

21:23

Cause it also can be done the night before

you can do it the day before

21:24

if you cancel D0 pffffft

If lynch is cancelled fsr then RK can do it two nights before

there is no reason the lynch is cancelled except RK

TomTheCrust

if you cancel D0 pffffft

It wouldn't activate til D2

I think cancelling at the end of the day could be cool as a strat

TomTheCrust

there is no reason the lynch is cancelled except RK

2 RK cancel D0 No lynch D2 or D3

so you can push wolves to try to snipe and then cancel, so they reveal themselves

Fe D. Erick

I think cancelling at the end of the day could be cool as a strat

this is how it works currently?

It activates end day but the ability is immediate meaning once chosen to activate you can't deactivate

yea but the cancelling is immediate isnt it?

Royal Knight [Townsfolk Power]

Basics

Once per game, the Royal Knight may cancel the lynch.

Details

After Day 1, the Royal Knight may cancel the lynch at any time of day or night, and it will apply to the current or upcoming lynch. If there are several lynches, the Royal Knight may only cancel one of them: they may choose which one. Cancelling the lynch is an immediate ability. However, the fact that the lynch has been cancelled will only be revealed at the end of the day. The Royal Knight also chooses whether they want to be revealed or not. If they choose to be revealed, both their role and name are announced: otherwise, neither is.

oh

21:27

then yea

21:27

i remember it being reaveled immediately at some point (edited)

it really should be end day and i have absolutely no clue why it isn't

21:27

perhaps ts would know since it was either he or marhjo who made the role

Yeah RK can cancel the lynch 5 days in advance

the shape

perhaps ts would know since it was either he or marhjo who made the role

no, this is an old role

oh that makes sense kind of

21:28

they can choose which days poll

I think even an original WWoMH one

Captain Luffator

they can choose which days poll

they cannot

it's not that old because i remember it being added

You are wrong

TomTheCrust

they cannot

oh nvm ethan confused me

Captain Luffator

they can choose which days poll

No I mean if you activate D0 you cancel D2 (edited)

I'm sure the concept has existed for a while but I very specifically remember it being added in either S4 or S5

the shape

it's not that old because i remember it being added

here

2018-01-15_Detailed_Book_of_Instructions_v1.pdf

77.89 KB

21:29

It was added on 2018-01-15

yea its old

after S1G1 but before S1G2

maybe it was removed and then readded then

21:30

i am sure it was (re)added at some point in my early gm days

the shape

maybe it was removed and then readded then

It has existed in all 33 known versions

21:32

including both branches of the role book schism

this is so weird

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123742418940993557/1124421909489123328 Good job suso, let's ignore you thought 4 townies were scum

i distinctly remember it being readded

21:32

i must be thinking of another role

Jay got Mandela effected

I'm trying to think if we had something you could be confusing it

21:33

but I can't think of anything

Verbal diarrhea LOL

21:33

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1124070386431176704/1124421903961038848

LOL

21:40

Wtf why is the wedding in Turin

21:40

LOL

21:40

that's so random

21:41

Sure Suso https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123742418940993557/1124424286275375385

Where is turin

Italy

21:41

its where i live

Oh

how tf do you not know where turin is

I assume the event was made there

why should i care about european countries

Jeanindou

why should i care about european countries

Based

arent you french

LMAOOOO

true

21:42

French discord name

bro gets a french name and tries to pretend they aren't french

21:42

I'm getting gaslit by everyone here

Man aint used to communications holding for so long

Fe D. Erick

bro gets a french name and tries to pretend they aren't french

congrats on being prussian

LOL

LMAO

didnt you just add an extra r

no

hm

21:45

Google really be tripping

"what country is federick from" ⇒ Prussian

search for ts

TomTheCrust

congrats on being prussian

Prussia is where my heart was always at so that's right

So ts is from Taiwan

TomTheCrust

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Congrats on being Taiwanese

Wow Ts I knew you were taiwanese

TomTheCrust

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I think mine would say somewhere middle eastern or something

21:48

It's Hebrew

21:48

But check

21:48

Maybe

yep

My full name would class me into austria/germany

close enough?

LETS GO

21:49

BEER DRINKERS GUIDE FOR MUNICH

21:49

Ts I know what we are gonna do at some point

You were in munich and you didn't meet us????

21:49

wtf stein

If you search my full name it brings up an American college football player

Yeah I am alsways in Munich

21:50

Mine brings multiple peopme

21:50

Mine is generic af

I'm glad I found the ultimate way of determining what country somebody is from

yes

21:50

so we have

I think mine also brings up me

Arch - France Fed - Prussia Ts - Taiwan Ethan - Hebrew Stein - Munich

What about jay

LOl

Switzerland

Jay is swiss?

Vera?

@the shape grüzzi

Evil Than

Vera?

aubonne-bussy

Lmao

Vera is english

oh no

TomTheCrust

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Send that in #despot

google is a bit more enthusiastic about that result

21:53

compred to the others

Luffy is Brazilian

Steinyhawk

Vera is english

They're a Mank

Evil Than

Send that in #despot

Not a good time rn i dont think

yea

Oh

21:54

Is Vera dying from game?

#town_square

Steinyhawk

Vera is english

AHHHHHHHH

potpotkorv55

AHHHHHHHH

What's wrong with English people?

Evil Than

What's wrong with English people?

Everything

;l

❗ Could not find role l.

22:07

Signed Up Players | Total: 19

- alphaviki (@Alphaluf)

- captainluffy (@Captain Luffator)

- katyhawk (@K4tyH4wk) gibagul

- 5uso (@5tho)

️ - wwhythough (@WhyLouch_) hepi

- thelauch_ (@themist_)

- voidmist (@voidumm0)

- im_dumm0 (@im_korv0)

- potkorv (@potpotkorv55)

- huckhuck55 (@☠ Huck ☠)

-

Nick

(@Nickickic)

- phantomtomic (@Phantomeric)

- federick (@Fe D. Erick)

- jeand.arch (@Jeanindou)

- mister.turtle (@Mr. Snirtle)

- nottinghamshire (@Turvy-Ace)

- babibdou (@babibsoul)

️ - the8thsoul (@The8thEclair)

- venomousbirds (@vikimousbirds) (edited)

Evil Than

;l

L

My brain sometimes thinks ; = $ not $i

Swurtle

Luffy is Brazilian

@Captain Luffator

Souls | Additional Info - Hell Team

Members of the hell team that can use Souls (soul users) may use a Soul to protect someone from all attacks for the current night. If used during the day the player will be protected for the next night. Using a Soul to protect a player is an immediate effect. Soul users may use a Soul to attack a player. The player will be attacked immediately and it is not revealed why they died. This ability may be used during both day and night. If the attack fails it is explained. If a soul user is attacked during the night and if they have a spare soul in the pool, they will be protected and a soul will be used up automatically. If they are attacked several times a soul is used for every attack. If several soul users are attacked at the same time and there aren't enough souls to protect them all, the protections are chosen randomly, but the Devil is always protected first. When souls are used to protect a member the whole of hell is informed of who was attacked.

potpotkorv55

Everything

3 British players 3 British GMs 1 stein

Swurtle

@Captain Luffator

yeah its cannon to the story

hey

22:11

I am half

1 stein

hm

Evil Than

3 British players 3 British GMs 1 stein

Cringe

Steinyhawk

I am half

What is the other half

LuFFY!! WHY ARE YOU BRAZILIAN I THOUGHT YOURE CANADIAN

phantom activating wolfpack's single brain cell

potpotkorv55

What is the other half

austrian

22:23

war starters

Ok you're valid

the krubylin

phantom activating wolfpack's single brain cell

i thought i used it by getting a sub

LMAOO

22:31

TRUE

There was no braincell used by anyone other than me, huck, alpha and vera

22:32

WT too ig

22:32

And Luffy and katy

22:37

LMAO https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1124438473626112070

Imagine having braincells

snivy what are you ON

Lmao snivy

I had a test today

How was it stein?

Poll #sas

22:48

- @Alphaluf

- @K4tyH4wk gibagul

- @5tho

️ - @WhyLouch_ hepi

- @themist_

- @voidumm0

- @im_korv0

- @☠ Huck ☠

- @Phantomeric

- @Turvy-Ace

- @babibsoul

- @vikimousbirds

- Abstain

1

@Captain Luffator try it here

22:48

Lmao

it undid only 1 of them

@TomTheCrust he did it

oh now its doing the rest

oop

Oh

22:49

Maybe if there's an update it deletes them

22:50

Like discord checks every 20 seconds to see

hmm

are you gonna ff tomorrow? Every wolf outed themselves by now

ts can decide

yea

huh vera and huck going at it

00:28

that is interesting

Tbh at this point i dont think guardian is needed

01:55

So vera can take the W, if i was alive, that is LOL

I was soul-killed as a Cit?

07:43

That's new.

07:44

I didn't even see I was getting Mayor.

Turtle was witch

Huh?

08:06

I knew Alpha was Grandma.

Ikr lol

09:29

Wolves do be trolling

Good job @Turvy-Ace

good job @Alphaluf !!!

Thank you

️ I tried to get as much fixed after my fuckup. But tbf it turned out not too bad and Vera and Void kinda saved it

yea this is pretty much a town sweep

12:17

as long as they lynch wolfpack first

12:17

and ignore katy until last

I carried again

12:22

With an useless role

Your plan went so well!

Also I feel like scum didn’t do really well with fakeclaims

They were dumb yea

Like I feel Katy had the best fakeclaim probably

But they did consider claiming hooker and my play stopped them

12:31

So i was the reason you could trust arch

ur so lucky wt isnt wolf

It wasnt luck

12:36

He messaged me immediately

12:36

Packs dont take initiatives that fast (edited)

the shape

@Mat8000 to summarise - 1. wolves killed tanner N1 (not their fault) and found (likely) lone warlock via tracking wolf. 2. phantom told val (CW) to corrupt nick N2 so they could communicate. val did not do this. 3. wolves killed federick, known assistant, N2, removing a useless role and their own claimspace in the process. 4. pack managed to mess up claims so bad that the pack tanner, the only member that doesn't register as a threat to AT, was the one claiming huntress, and val claimed AT two phases after the other two AT claims were made. 5. wolves got wagers N1, 2, and 3. val did nothing N1 on phantom's advice. phantom checked alpha N2. snivy, on N3.... checked alpha. 6. phantom and val are now killing lauch... a known huntress claim and snivy's ctc. except val just switched to killing void, who is his own ctc. lmao. lol, even. 7. oh, and nick got lynched yesterday, and wolves didn't even reach out. (edited)

if you want a playbyplay of what wolves did jay made one

12:38

it was truly incredible to watch

Honestly even if they got nick it wouldnt have matteree

12:39

Mattered

i feel its ok to vote vera now

12:40

as mayor

12:41

hopefully town gives them the win

Im pretty sure Huck will. Tomorrow at the latest probably.

12:42

Btw. do you know why Nick never claimed?

Lone warlock

Yeah, but he could’ve at least claimed something

yeah

12:43

he straight up gave up

He got demoralized once i did my tryhard play it seems lol

Rip poor Nick

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235848847098008/1123605716285018142

lol

12:58

But why did both Phantom and Snivy ask for the same info from devil???

IKR

13:07

Snivy didnt read i guess lmfaooo

Ahhhh Suso, you are missing info xD

13:22

Also I dunno why I didnt add Void to ttc&tp. He was basically confirmed. I was probably either too tired and/or paranoid still.

Jeanindou

Snivy didnt read i guess lmfaooo

You read as vamp just saying

Also need to tell Lauch after this game not to give crucial info to unconfirmed claims

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1124051830876422144/1124221727346532493

Alphaluf

Also I dunno why I didnt add Void to ttc&tp. He was basically confirmed. I was probably either too tired and/or paranoid still.

Better to be extra paranoid than not

13:51

And accidentally leak info to baddies

Very true

happy wedding @Fe D. Erick @the shape

Omg

14:05

I cant believe im getting married

omg

14:10

happy wedding day @Fe D. Erick

Happy 2nd wedding Jay

Happy wedding bestie

wow

14:41

i see how it is @Fe D. Erick \

14:42

i gave you nitro and then run off with this whore @the shape

I believe in poligamy, les

This was already planned before you gave him nitro

Its ok

fed are you dating my mother

Y-yes

Sweet home alabama lmao

wow

14:44

im hurt

14:44

i not a renpy game

14:45

that yall can play

why does phantom think lauch could possibly be targetting a townie

14:47

y'all literally outed yourselves to snipe snivy as mayor

Phantom probably in denial and hoping there is a way

Jeanindou

he straight up gave up

honestly not only i wanted to give up. Its just I wanted a break from this (i have been playing none stop since i joined the server)

15:54

so yeah i might not join the next one

15:54

also happy wedding fed

I got a haircut for our marriage @the shape

Nickickic

also happy wedding fed

Thank you

omg

Can you believe it

17:03

My last haircut was in december

noice

What is Huck saying???

18:19

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235822666268682/1124730477958398133

i think he forgot how to count lol

18:19

he'll realise hopefully

Please do your math

18:19

Yeah

huck is a very good player but his fatal flaw is occasionally being incredibly silly

18:22

if huck is left to his own thoughts too long he goes a little insane

you guys need to remind louch to update target

18:22

snivy died

18:22

oh nvm

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1124070386431176704/1124736551860064299 Also Huck silly, you don't loose the lynch, only the election

18:23

I can't watch

18:23

Please tell me later if we won or lost

feel free to mute the server, you'll get pinged once game ends

18:24

i get the feeling lmao

Will do o7

Vera should be the one reminding him that it's just election

meh

I should have soul killed myself so they could have lynched alpha instead

whoo

21:02

finally done

I should have corupted Huck

vikimousbirds

finally done

Gg

21:06

I carried again

i didnt wanna be that despot that gets a pity win at the very end so i pushed for a win right now

congrats vera

now rate my absolutely miserable performance this game

21:14

as i feel like i did jackshit

21:14

except point out that despot is a lot harder than i previously had thought

i feel like you didnt do terrible, despot is just very hard to win as

21:19

they really should either get the ability to disguise themselves, or perhaps a one-time kill like barber

21:19

or smth else

You gonna ff now so me and jay can prepare next game?

vikimousbirds

except point out that despot is a lot harder than i previously had thought

If wolves had braincells then they would try to push to elect you instead of snivy so they can kill the reporter and make it harder to understand roles

21:24

Sadly wasnt the case this game

21:26

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235822666268682/1124782887074541568

21:26

Why would void be huntress

21:26

Oh the fake void

the krubylin

i feel like you didnt do terrible, despot is just very hard to win as

I don't think vera did badly either: maybe they could have pushed themselves for mayor more D1/not been quite so antagonistic/defensive then but considering the hooker strat i doubt it would have worked. nothing bad about, just no real opportunities to play super well either. it has at least highlighted some ways to improve despot :)

yup

21:41

theres not much i could do more than what i did

guys. guys. gamers in particular

21:50

should i get Tunic or Dark Souls

21:51

they're both on sale for the first time in. A Long Time. and idk if i should be buying both

21:51

hi vera

the shape

I don't think vera did badly either: maybe they could have pushed themselves for mayor more D1/not been quite so antagonistic/defensive then but considering the hooker strat i doubt it would have worked. nothing bad about, just no real opportunities to play super well either. it has at least highlighted some ways to improve despot :)

im also genuinely surprised people didnt immediately think i was despot

21:51

hi mat

how was the wedding

vikimousbirds

im also genuinely surprised people didnt immediately think i was despot

Well huck did lol

not immediately

21:54

i wasnt acting like town at all

ok. ok im getting tunic

Idk what either are

you dont know dark souls?

Also vera you bullied my epic play

21:54

Im offended

21:55

You and suso

21:55

Bad

yeah

21:55

it was stupid (it actually worked but it was just annoying as hell)

21:55

if you hadnt done that it wouldve been easier for me to just go for mayor randomly

It wasnt stupid jay said it was the best WW play ever smh

jay is lying there have been better plays

WRONG

21:56

He wasnt lying thats why we're marrying

hdnsjejrurudjdjdj

21:57

ftr i did say it was good and i mean and believe that

You said it was great actually smh

21:57

And the best play

JDBDBDHDHDH

was it the "make a town ctc claim the town role to stop wolves from doing it" play?

Yea, since we couldnt rely on ti we needed other ways to confirm

@Fe D. Erick @Fe D. Erick you don't know what dark souls i-

I know but...

ive been wanting to do that play for like a year

21:58

but i dont play often enough

21:59

rude

vikimousbirds

jay is lying there have been better plays

I'VE SEEN BETTER DAYS SO UNAFRAID OF MY YOUTH

I win, ts

21:59

I win at everything, even in marriage

21:59

Right jay??

I CAN'T BREATHE MUCH LESS BELIEVE THE TRUTH!

Same

did jay send you multiple christmas cards that said "to my dearest wife"? i dont think so fed

22:00

you lose

HE DID

Tbh im surprised that no scums ctc despot

wow i got 5 games and somehow they sum up to 28,--€

vikimousbirds

did jay send you multiple christmas cards that said "to my dearest wife"? i dont think so fed

Did you send jay cryptic loads of bread??

22:01

And then cryptic loves

22:01

I dont think so

i dont think you even have jays address

22:01

loser

England

you never sent them gifts

London

22:02

164B, Downing Street

22:03

Isnt that right @the shape

yah

I knew jay was the prime minister

Wow Fed just doxed you Jay

omg jay can be prime minister and i can legally be president of the us

22:29

thats so romantic

the krubylin

if huck is left to his own thoughts too long he goes a little insane

This is so true

I become the italian pm and then quit to become an honorary dutchman and the love triangle is complete

italian pm/british pm/us president love triangle

wait jay is a conservative

ethan forgets that prime ministers do not have to be conservative

the krubylin

ethan forgets that prime ministers do not have to be conservative

Current party in charge is tho

Damn we ffing

22:41

Good job @Phantomeric

Get suso here

22:46

@5tho BITCH

LMAO

Thank you very much

Hey guys

For the win? No problem

Did hooker get soulkilled next day or not? pff

22:49

Also you got killed

5tho

Did hooker get soulkilled next day or not? pff

No

Also you didn't even know whythough was town

it worked out for me

Its cause he was getting reporter

22:50

He got soulkilled for that

It also didn't help (edited)

22:50

It just confused town for a few hours

5tho

Also you didn't even know whythough was town

I did because he messaged me immediately without a ping

22:51

Too much initiative to be a wolf

gg

5tho

It just confused town for a few hours

And confirmed arch which allowed you to collect claims

22:52

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235917088436224/1123618468986617958

22:53

See

It doesn't really stop them from claiming hooker

Well it did

22:54

So i win

And again if whythough was not town, which you had no way of knowing

22:54

It would just be a fake hooker claim

I DID KNOW

Fed a read is not knowing

Bruhh

22:54

Neither is TI

22:55

Reads is what you should be going off of in games like this

Fe D. Erick

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123742418940993557/1124421909489123328 Good job suso, let's ignore you thought 4 townies were scum

I also didn't think 4 townies were scum, this was a list of people who seemed less active than usual

22:56

From which I just decided the likeliest to be scum was luffy to set as redirect

Also my strat was something ts wanted to try for a while so you are insulting ts too if you insult my strat smh

22:57

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235817146564628/1124791235392061520

Yeah I think ts should feel bad

22:57

He makes us suffer

Jay said it was great too

22:57

I think democracy wins here

it was a good strat

Great

it can never be used again

It can

but it was really good

it wasn't garbage but I don't think it was very good

22:58

It was funny

22:58

But it's mostly a chaotic strat that confuses your own team and isn't guaranteed to do shit

i think it couldve been used better in another game

It didnt confuse the team

22:59

You people were just reading into it

that means youre confusing them

vikimousbirds

i think it couldve been used better in another game

it wasn't needed this game because wolves were, no offence, pretty uncoordinated (edited)

yup

22:59

exactly

Fe D. Erick

You people were just reading into it

Because reads are what we should go off of in a game like this!

22:59

the shape

@Mat8000 to summarise - 1. wolves killed tanner N1 (not their fault) and found (likely) lone warlock via tracking wolf. 2. phantom told val (CW) to corrupt nick N2 so they could communicate. val did not do this. 3. wolves killed federick, known assistant, N2, removing a useless role and their own claimspace in the process. 4. pack managed to mess up claims so bad that the pack tanner, the only member that doesn't register as a threat to AT, was the one claiming huntress, and val claimed AT two phases after the other two AT claims were made. 5. wolves got wagers N1, 2, and 3. val did nothing N1 on phantom's advice. phantom checked alpha N2. snivy, on N3.... checked alpha. 6. phantom and val are now killing lauch... a known huntress claim and snivy's ctc. except val just switched to killing void, who is his own ctc. lmao. lol, even. 7. oh, and nick got lynched yesterday, and wolves didn't even reach out. (edited)

wolf summary

that's what mafia is for not wwr lmao

"what if you are both wolves" didnt matter because the result is 1 (one) single claim without ctc

no honey

The point is the result

you're supposed to read in wwr too

23:00

but no-one does

the shape

it wasn't needed this game because wolves were, no offence, pretty uncoordinated (edited)

hey i tried

Except me

but no one was there

Steinyhawk

hey i tried

and failed <3 but yeah it mostly wasn't your fault

the shape

you're supposed to read in wwr too

i try but im shit at it

Except i dont read the role

the fed kill yes was me

That was a bad kill

i expected better of phantom but val and snivy were probably the most to blame

It just confirmed me as town

yes

the fed kill would've been the biggest mistake if not for all of the other mistakes

but then again i tried to coordinate claims

it did not work tho,,,,,,,

wanted a hooker claimer

tbf stein, you did fail to claim yourself

I just didnt claim

you really shouldve claimed hooker yourself

23:02

because you don't show up as a threat

@WhyLouch_ good job on the great cit play btw ❤️ its how cit should be played

23:03

Take initiatives immediately

sneaking could have worked too if phantom had the balls

thxx

Sadly people were still doubting you lol

the ideal set of claims were probably stein - hooker phantom - cit val - AT 8th - huntress

Steinyhawk

sneaking could have worked too if phantom had the balls

not really

23:04

it wouldn't make sense to be wasting pack tans on someone who already has a disguise

Sneaking not claiming cit is a waste

23:04

It can work

23:04

But when nothing goes through strong disguises it ensures town has something they can't solve easily at all

the shape

the ideal set of claims were probably stein - hooker phantom - cit val - AT 8th - huntress

this works because PT isn't a lycan, SnW is already disguised, AT can't be trusted against another AT claim so if CS is killed early it works really well, and huntress would show up as a threat

That is why you shouldnt rely on ti

8th could've also claimed witch

there was an at this game?

5tho

Sneaking not claiming cit is a waste

In a game that has crowd seeker or fortune teller, i agree

vikimousbirds

there was an at this game?

Yea

vikimousbirds

there was an at this game?

there were three /j

bro i did NOT read the role list

Useless tho

LMAO

i know i was bad this game, but i had irl issues

VERA

Fe D. Erick

That is why you shouldnt rely on ti

Yeah you should just ignore TI actually

23:06

Bad roles

katy's AT claim was BALLSY and it nearly worked honestly

23:06

i was impressed

and i still won

and couldnt really do much

thats because roles can be completely disregardes when youre despot and you just play alignments

shoulda lynched luffy earlier tbh

5tho

Yeah you should just ignore TI actually

My husband, pls shout at him

there was an at???

Yes, but it was useless

i gotta say, a major issue i saw in this game across teams was people not knowing/bothering to look up a) whether roles had strong or weak disguises b) whether roles are vulnerable to strong or weak disguises

AT showed Luffy as devil and confirmed itself

The only reason it was useful was to read who the fake at was, not the actual role

a lot of people assumed that AT was vulnerable to weak disguises (it's not) and/or that devil had a strong disguise (it doesn't)

Fe D. Erick

The only reason it was useful was to read who the fake at was, not the actual role

That's already useful

lol

the shape

a lot of people assumed that AT was vulnerable to weak disguises (it's not) and/or that devil had a strong disguise (it doesn't)

Hey I didn't

5tho

That's already useful

As useful as cit

there was also a lot of discussion about tanner creating strong disguises (it doesn't)

I just forgot Katy and Mist had checked Luffy

23:08

lmao

i didnt even get to discuss disguises because i had no info

nothing this game had a strong disguise except for sneaking

kind of disappointing how few people bothered to look up roles

i didnt even know what alignment half of the people in the game were

23:09

i was genuinely in the dark until people got desperate

unaligned goes brrr

We voted for despot just to erase a possibility of polls being unpredictable later

23:09

We could have just not but that'd be mean

That is the purpose

but the thing this game that killed me was val

23:10

the team said to him to corrupt nick

23:10

and he did his own thing

Fe D. Erick

That is the purpose

Which wolves missed, and instead voted snivy

i think my strat of claiming something else (i knew arch wouldnt listen to it) worked pretty well

23:10

it immediately confirmed that i was right about tt

What's funny is you might as well have claimed despot publicly, Vera

true but that doesnt give as much flair

23:11

i was obvious about it on purpose

Strange UA game

Some people were still dubious

23:11

At the end

i went "hey if youre adding despot, gimme despot and ill join"

23:11

so they added despot

Hacks

Pff

23:12

Btw, assistant doesn't seem very useful

23:12

I don't know if it should be

23:13

But it being only one use with rolelists like this plays mostly like cit

Yea its useless

idk how many times despot has won but im 2 of those times

23:14

i think i did really well, even if everyone thought "haha i know what vera is"

23:15

like thats the point

23:15

thanks for the win babes <3

23:15

theres barely any other way for me to win <3

Mercy win smh

so what

23:15

thats the goal of the role

23:16

just get elected

23:16

who cares how

23:16

i dont have to play for a team

23:16

i can do what i want

23:16

and all i need to do is win <3

I mean we are not like haha I know what vera is

23:16

It's like

23:16

Yeah

23:16

You're not really against us

I like how it took you hours before you figured out huck was misreading the role lol

5tho

I mean we are not like haha I know what vera is

well everyone was very proud to flex that they knew i was despot

Crazy

Fe D. Erick

I like how it took you hours before you figured out huck was misreading the role lol

i thought he was calculating with 5 town vs 4 scum, i genuinely didnt know who was what

23:18

with 5v4 it wouldve made sense

What did he misread?

He thought it removed lynch next day

23:18

Its just election

23:18

Which is why he didnt want to do it lol

Ah

23:19

Makes sense

i thought he meant he didnt wanna do it because town needed mayor

23:19

because i didnt know if it was 6v3 or 5v4

23:19

because i was completely in the dark

@Alphaluf game is done btw

23:20

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123235817146564628/1124737066685710417

23:27

@TomTheCrust what did i redirect btw

tanner

oh lmao

23:27

success i guess

Wayyy!!! Fun game! Congrats town and Vera!

omg huck i missed you

23:46

# Whale Vagina

I missed you!!!

23:46

WHALE VAGINA!!!

23:48

That was the first time that I’ve been sort of almost town lead and not been utterly overwhelmed lmao.

23:48

Def had my moments, but feel like we worked through it well.

I paved the way for you huck

23:49

And wolves as well

Yeah fed, you slayed! Haha

but you played really well!

23:49

As always

Slayed indeed

☠ Huck ☠

Yeah fed, you slayed! Haha

You were doubting me smh

hi huck

Hi Vera!

dont you dare try to tell me that you knew i was despot

23:50

i know you knew

Fe D. Erick

You were doubting me smh

I mean, every game comes with doubt.

there was no other way for me to win

23:50

the only way for despot to win is a mercy win, which just makes the role infinitely harder

Lol, I wasn’t going to say that Vera. Though I did call you out on day 1

you just said exactly what i said you shouldnt say

But yeah, kind of a position you want to be out in the open for so you don’t get killed.

yup

23:51

despot is honestly a terrible role

vikimousbirds

you just said exactly what i said you shouldnt say

But I said it, so now what?

i cant do anything, i have no abilities to help

23:51

i shouldve just claimed out straight, but i wanted to try to at least put in effort

I like despot cuz they are a wild card. It’s weighted in a way that they are truly unaligned. Might suck to play as, but the balance is there I think.

not like its gonna work, there was no way for me to win without getting on an alignment's side

23:52

despot isnt a wild card at all

23:52

i just side with the alignment with the most players

23:52

it sucks to play and im sad that it sucked so much because i couldnt really play at my full potential

you did ask us to give you despot

my chance to win as a surprise was completely ruined by fed's hooker strat

Good to have you on the sidelines since you’re such a strong player :p

23:53

Jk

the shape

you did ask us to give you despot

oh absolutely, i didnt expect it to suck because i won with it before

I don't like despot very much tbh

im glad i got it

It's one of those UAs that exist

thank you

Pff

despot pretty bad

23:53

im glad i got it

honestly angel is the best ua imo

Can I add assistant bad too

im sad i couldnt be at my full potential

it's just the right complexity

assistant is good

Yea. Angel great

detective

assistant is good

I am totally impartial

assistant is great honestly

i should push detective

Pls make it say the role you redirected at least

no

It's literally just cit with a role description

Fe D. Erick

Pls make it say the role you redirected at least

that would make it so much worse

Fe D. Erick

It's literally just cit with a role description

thats kind of the point

23:55

it's a slightly more engaging cit with more ability to prove itself, without skewing balance massively in town's favour

Fe D. Erick

It's literally just cit with a role description

hey at least you have a role description, despot has about as many lines of info as cit

Despot [Unaligned Miscellaneous]

Basics

If the Despot is elected, they win. The next day, the election will be skipped.

Details

When the Despot wins, the Despot ascends and stops playing. The game continues.

well i figured it was useless but i expected it to do something

Citizen [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Citizen has no special abilities.

Details

All the Citizens vote during the day on whomever they suspect to be an enemy and hope during the night that they won’t get killed.

Fe D. Erick

well i figured it was useless but i expected it to do something

it does if you don't suck

Assistant can have very cool plays

23:55

But they aren't likely

assistant has potential

I waited to set my target so it wouldn't get used on something pointless

23:55

But it never got used

ddd had a great strat as assistant once

the shape

it does if you don't suck

I didnt suck and i just played as citizen

in V2G4 Ethan and I caught the WI with Assistant

If it was it could have been useful, had it set on devil the entire time devil was alive

im sad that my plays couldnt be impressive and cool because the role sucks but we couldve only seen that the role sucks if i played it, so its a lose/win situation

TomTheCrust

in V2G4 Ethan and I caught the WI with Assistant

I tried to get packless

TomTheCrust

in V2G4 Ethan and I caught the WI with Assistant

i believe the same happened early S9/late S8?

23:56

maybe my MS game

vikimousbirds

im sad that my plays couldnt be impressive and cool because the role sucks but we couldve only seen that the role sucks if i played it, so its a lose/win situation

no i knew the role sucked

damn

what is WI

but glad you proved it to everyone

Oh wolf invest

i didnt, because i won with it once

can i just say

no x

this wasnt a mercy win in comparison with my other despot win

at least despot is better than it used to be

Oh yeah is bard getting removed?

yes

Fe D. Erick

no x

divorcing you

it got removed, yea

the shape

at least despot is better than it used to be

oh definitely

the shape

divorcing you

NOOOO

which is thanks to ME btw

tho i wouldve won now if it was still old despot

23:57

so uh

i was the one who made despot and angel halfway playable

that didnt really matter this game

Fe D. Erick

NOOOO

its okay i forgive you

Bard is still really fundamentally incompatible with how werewolves should reasonably operate

23:57

As TS listed months ago

make ice king playable now then jay

5tho

As TS listed months ago

what did I list

Fe D. Erick

make ice king playable now then jay

no i dont like it

bard is bad

TomTheCrust

what did I list

Roles with problems

ah

And bard was listed as

divorcing you

Like

Fe D. Erick

make ice king playable now then jay

no, we already veto'd it

Fe D. Erick

divorcing you

NOOOOOOOOO

Fundamentally bad

23:58

Or something like that

the shape

NOOOOOOOOO

its okay i forgive you

i mean bard is fundamentally bad

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1026637459875967046/1026637459875967046

<3

roles that make it too easy

its what we dont want in a role, confirmability

Bard: This role is just fundamentally broken

Yeah

23:58

That's what I'm referencing

23:59

I sent the slicedlime copypasta there

vetod more like vetodeez nuts amirite

(joking, i dont mind)

Add jester from town of salem

23:59

Fuck it. add executioner from town of salem

Executioner [Townsfolk Killing]

Basics

After Day 1, if the Executioner is lynched, it will be prevented, and a player chosen by the Executioner will be lynched in their place.

Details

The Executioner may target a player. This target can be updated once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Executioner wants to. Targeting a player is an immediate effect. If the Executioner would be lynched, their target is (indirectly) lynched instead. If there is no target, the Executioner is lynched. When the Executioner changes the lynch, their role is revealed to all, and the targeted player is lynched immediately. This ability will only work once. Future lynches will behave as normal.

CAll it something else

yeah bard is just you are offically town lead

bard is bad and will be removed

^

Fr tho assistant is as useful as cit lol

assistant at least has an ability

00:01

some sort of way to find out people

00:01

got 2 ti claims? ask them to invest an assistant

assistant has been used to confirm someone as wolf before that way ^

exactly

WI was stupid enough to check the assistant while claiming TI

That was when it still said what you redirected iirc

you guys just didnt utlise it well enough

Fe D. Erick

That was when it still said what you redirected iirc

im pretty sure it never did?

# CANADA DAY

yeah it never did

Evil Than

WI was stupid enough to check the assistant while claiming TI

That is not what i redirected

00:02

I redirected a random tanning lol

thats also not about this game, fed

Oh

‍♂️

Because they did check me even when i was assistant this game

00:03

so i got confused

so assistant does have a use

00:03

stop complaining, you just didnt utilise it

00:03

you cant play a perfect game

Maybe like once in 12 blue moons it does have a use yea

confirming ti or wi

00:04

thats a pretty big part

Assistant [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Assistant may select a player to redirect one werewolf action to. The action cannot be an attack.

Details

The Assistant may target a player. They can update this target once per phase, with 1 emergency change to be used whenever the Assistant wants. When the Assistant is affected by a wolfish player's power, that is not an attack, it will be redirected to the target without the wolfish player being informed. The Assistant's redirection power can only be used once per game. The Assistant is informed when their power is used, but they are not told what ability they redirected.

Who was the best scum this game?

Katy

Yeah? What they do?

00:05

Just, stayed alive?

Solid fakeclaim (AT)

Stayed undetected.

I mean honestly that's better than what 90% of scum did (edited)

Yeah, they did have us bamboozled for a bit, it wasn’t until the very end with the luffy at result that we realized they must be bad.

Fe D. Erick

Maybe like once in 12 blue moons it does have a use yea

if you had selected a target later you would've redirected Tracking Wolf making it so WWs think you're TK (edited)

katy did really well (i think i have spoken to them once this game)

wait no that was Lone Warlock not Tracking Wolf

i genuinely dont know what half of these players were because i didnt need to know lmao

00:06

i knew alpha was tt confirmed and that confirmed huck too

but you selected a target early enough to redirect a tanning, and you redirected a tanning

TomTheCrust

if you had selected a target later you would've redirected Tracking Wolf making it so WWs think you're TK (edited)

That requires me to have known the TK (which in this case I just happened to get randomly)

and then huck tried to evade some message deletion and failed miserably, spilling all info to me

almost any target is better than assistant

00:06

so it didnt really

00:07

you could've had a wolf, or hell or any other good town role

00:07

and it would've worked

See? Waiting to select could actually be useful

00:07

Epic strat

vikimousbirds

and then huck tried to evade some message deletion and failed miserably, spilling all info to me

Yeahhhhhhh lmao

00:07

Can never skip one past Ts.

nope

00:07

i actually saw it

00:07

and then notified hosts

i wanted to redirect tanner, that was like the only good use i could think of

00:07

so doing it D0 was better

because nobody would type that many weird-ass edited messages in a row

That's only really useful if you guess a pack member

you were extremely obvious

huck you are getting points docked for trying to cheat

I need to come up with a better system for looking at chat rooms I’m in before typing lol

i think it was like 3 am lol

00:08

he was tired

the shape

huck you are getting points docked for trying to cheat

Yeah well… new badge.

its no excuse

Wait what

its not an excuse but its understandable, he wasnt doing it maliciously

I didn't know about this one

00:09

What did you spill lmao

Scum list iirc

00:09

then edited it out

All town trust info

Pfff

message deletion is in the rules and message editing to the point where its completely different is the same

Wrong chat, panic, edit.

[Gross Negligence]

00:09

Nah

owning up is better because you mightve been able to pull it off as a fake

00:10

but once you completely edited it, it was obvious that you were spilling truthful info

Things happen, but you really shouldn't edit

3 AM brain reacting to 3 AM brain

00:10

= panic

☠ Huck ☠

I need to come up with a better system for looking at chat rooms I’m in before typing lol

make a spam cc mention the channel you eant to type in click the mention

What does Gross Negligence mean in the sense of wwr

unintentional gamethrowing, to simplify it

Raven1207.2

What does Gross Negligence mean in the sense of wwr

accidental/unninetentioal gamethrow

00:11

e.g

ah

Yeah, I was playing with fire with that one, but I panicked and just shitted it all up

forgetting to switch lynch off yourself as the FT because you did a dumb and let wolves snipe the lynch

Raven1207.2

What does Gross Negligence mean in the sense of wwr

An excuse to suspend you if you play really badly basically

Outside of that I think I played well. But wtv. Mistakes were made. Oh well.

I see

Evil Than

forgetting to switch lynch off yourself as the FT because you did a dumb and let wolves snipe the lynch

Me lynching myself in miniwolves

Evil Than

forgetting to switch lynch off yourself as the FT because you did a dumb and let wolves snipe the lynch

Gross! Who would do such a thing?!

5tho

Me lynching myself in miniwolves

Mini wolves is impossible to be grossly negligent

Oh yeah one thing I forgot

we just make awulf lists 80% of the time

Fe D. Erick

An excuse to suspend you if you play really badly basically

absolutely not, it's when you're gamethrowing but you don't realise it

@TomTheCrust I think the soulkill poll timing was too tight this game

that's something really different

~~I'm surprised I didn't punished for one game~~

5tho

@TomTheCrust I think the soulkill poll timing was too tight this game

luffy pinged 5 seconds before phase change

We were paying attention during one of the kills and missed the switch because it was basically instant

Evil Than

luffy pinged 5 seconds before phase change

ts allowed it

yeah

I don't think relying on such short timings makes sense

Yea it is dumb

Anyways what's the next sign up

It just makes it a game of reflexes and there's many things that can make it go wrong

the announcement for the kill was at the end of the day as well

00:14

so it makes no sense

there probably were more than 5s of time to react though

00:14

it was 21:00

It doesn't matter if there were 5 or 30 seconds

there were like 20s

It's just very dumb

if you scroll up we're implementing a five minute limit

huh?

Seems reasonable

huh?

;delays

❗ Could not find role delays. Did you mean abilities - delaying abilities (aka Delay)?

00:15

Delaying Abilities | Ability Information

Delaying Immediate Abilities is possible in three ways: 1) Phase Delaying: An immediate ability can be chosen one phase before it has to be executed (e.g. a Fortune Teller choosing a target during the day). If this is the case, the Game Masters will execute the immediate ability at an arbitrary time during its phase (the time can not be chosen). 2) End Delaying: An immediate ability may be executed roughly 15 minutes before the next phase change, if requested. If several conflicting immediate abilities are delayed this way, the order in which they were requested is preserved. Abilities delayed this way can be cancelled/rerequested. 3) Conditional Delaying: For both of the previous delaying methods, as well as for end effects players may specify conditions (e.g.

isn't that for delayed actions

yea we agreed to change the delay thing from 15 to 5

TomTheCrust

huh?

you literally agreed to this??? we discussed it?????????????

yea

delays already have a rough 15min timer

to change delayed immediate abilities from 15 to 5

i think 15mins is good

00:16

why change it to 5

yea idk either

00:16

but jay insisted so I said ok

huh

00:16

where is this conversation

delays are different to pinging at phase change

But this wasn't delayed so there was no limit to the timing

yea

in that case its fair

I don't think it is

00:17

It gives a clear advantage to the person triggering the action

i dont think its fair that there was no time to react

00:17

but its fair to do it that quickly before phase change

00:17

i think the announcement has to sink in visibly before the polls would close

00:18

as people are switching between the ping (in storytime) and the poll close (in voting booth)

it was legally (within the rules) correct but wasn't morally correct

this time was maybe a bit too fast but its usually fine

its definitely within the rules

I had to switch from story time to bot spam and back to voting booth as well

00:18

i just did it a bit too fast

i think the end actions should max at 5 minutes before end of phase, and cant do it later than that, and if it is later it should extend the phase by a bit

at least you didn't accidentally close polls early causing a snipe to fail then fuck up everything causing a reset

I think it's not easy at all to switch a poll entirely within less than a minute or two

5tho

I think it's not easy at all to switch a poll entirely within less than a minute or two

you are not supposed to?

i think 2 minutes is fine

00:19

its supposed to be chaos, thats the goal of a late soul kill

Well, you need to switch your votes if the person being voted is killed 20s before the poll closes

but i think some time must be given after the announcement

00:20

visibly see people pinging eachother to switch, let the chaos commence and then close it

We love chaos over here

or just state that if you want to soul kill, it will be executed before poll closes even if you ping for it to be later than that (just make a deal with the devil to not do it that close to end phase)

00:21

as long as it gives people time to switch

00:21

and 1 or 2 minutes should do

00:21

dont spam ethan

vikimousbirds

and 1 or 2 minutes should do

yeah

its a big message that just kinda splits up the conversation we're having with something unrelated (edited)

vikimousbirds

or just state that if you want to soul kill, it will be executed before poll closes even if you ping for it to be later than that (just make a deal with the devil to not do it that close to end phase)

soul kills are always before poll close?

fair

00:22

I was just about to delete it anyway lol

TomTheCrust

soul kills are always before poll close?

as in, way before, not 5 seconds

00:23

i think 1-2 minutes is usually fine, if people wanted to watch the polls they'll be there anyways

00:23

but give them some time to read and react

vikimousbirds

and 1 or 2 minutes should do

the proble with 1/2 minutes is (as @Jeanindou pointed out) it severely disadvantages players with worse internet, especially those outside the imperial core

yea it was a bit too fast this time

00:23

and the issue with 5 minutes is the people that are asleep

the shape

the proble with 1/2 minutes is (as @Jeanindou pointed out) it severely disadvantages players with worse internet, especially those outside the imperial core

i didnt know that was pointed out or a problem

well

in that case i would just say 5mins

do we want to ban poll sniping too then?

what

cause you can't react if your internet is fast enough

oh

how about any change to the poll delays closing by 5 minutes?

poll sniping is pretty different

its the same concept

00:24

last minute change to the poll

i guess

it puts people with bad internet or who are asleep at a disadvantage

TomTheCrust

how about any change to the poll delays closing by 5 minutes?

i guess? i think we tried this before

also poll sniping with how discord sometimes requires people to refresh the browser or app to reload reactions now

yeah uh i think the internet problem is something you cant do anything about, it sucks but if you know your internet is bad just count yourself out of a snipe or something

00:25

like i counted myself out because i wasnt sure if i would be busy at work or not

mid-day actions are immediate and public tho, the point is for people to react to them imo (edited)

TomTheCrust

how about any change to the poll delays closing by 5 minutes?

on reflection this isnt an idea i hate

00:25

i do think it's different to the delay actions though, as fed points out

Fe D. Erick

mid-day actions are immediate and public tho, the point is for people to react to them imo (edited)

the point of sniping is the opposite (edited)

TomTheCrust

how about any change to the poll delays closing by 5 minutes?

i would say an announcement for anything that would change the poll would delay it. a snipe wouldnt

the shape

i do think it's different to the delay actions though, as fed points out

what delay actions

five minute stuff

delays are 15mins before poll closing and i dont think we should change that

Fe D. Erick

the point of sniping is the opposite (edited)

the point of vote sniping and soul kill sniping is basically exactly the same

TomTheCrust

how about any change to the poll delays closing by 5 minutes?

With just that change on paper you could still do things, but at that point it's a bit ridiculous

i wouldnt say so, one has to be announced and one doesnt

that doesnt have anything to do with what their point is?

00:27

the point of both is to affect poll results last second

00:27

this conversation feels so all over the place (edited)

TS, to make sure I understand what you are saying

00:28

Would a player changing their vote on the last minute make poll close at :05?

yea thats my suggestion

00:28

obviously it is terrible

i dont agree with that

00:28

its a terrible suggestion

but its the only way to "fix" it

With that change on paper it's still possible to do what it tries to avoid

so the point is that I dont want it fixed

It would just be more convoluted

you just push off phase change by 7h until hosts ban you

id suggest the poll closing can be delayed by 5 minutes only if an announcement has to be made midday

TomTheCrust

the point of both is to affect poll results last second

I dont really see soul sniping that way, i see it more as "Get blueballed, do your best now and i hope you prepared for it evil devil face"

my initial point was literally just that five minutes is more fair to players than two minutes is

I don't think poll sniping with players can be fixed easily at all, but the way to fight it is the same as the sniping itself so it feels a bit more fair

Fe D. Erick

I dont really see soul sniping that way, i see it more as "Get blueballed, do your best now and i hope you prepared for it evil devil face"

youre free to have that opinion, but the point very much was to affect poll results last second

5tho

I don't think poll sniping with players can be fixed easily at all, but the way to fight it is the same as the sniping itself so it feels a bit more fair

i dont think sniping should be fixed

vikimousbirds

id suggest the poll closing can be delayed by 5 minutes only if an announcement has to be made midday

as it includes people with bad internet like jay suggested (the 5 mins too) and it includes that people have time to read an announcement and make a decision

Making actions like soul kills need to happen at least 2-5 minutes in advance is a lot easier of a fix even if it adds an edge case

sniping is pre-planned and we even have a rule in place that when you announce a snipe, the polls WILL close on time

so we fix it for hell team, but not for wolf team. Why?

A soul kill is especially impactful because it immediately makes all votes on the killed person worthless

thats just unfair for hell team

god im not sober enough for this

Wolves can't invalidate votes all of a sudden

00:30

They use their votes to trick the rest

suso is making the points i largely agree with - a soulkill neutralises a chunk of votes, votes do not neutralise other votes, they balance them

But to do that they need to expose themselves, and town needs to make a mistake beforehand as well

I did mention earlier that discord reactions currently have an issue where they don't always update unless you are looking at them in the little window where it lists all people reacting, and that makes it hard for people to check if a change happened then click off and vote in time to flip the polls

a snipe can be reacted to by most people in a short gap: a soulkill cannot

the shape

suso is making the points i largely agree with - a soulkill neutralises a chunk of votes, votes do not neutralise other votes, they balance them

sounds like the fix is then to not neutralize votes

If town has enough votes and plays properly switching the poll doesn't immediately win it

00:32

Even if town has enough votes and votes properly hell can win the poll this way

TomTheCrust

sounds like the fix is then to not neutralize votes

How can a dead person win the poll then

Evil Than

I did mention earlier that discord reactions currently have an issue where they don't always update unless you are looking at them in the little window where it lists all people reacting, and that makes it hard for people to check if a change happened then click off and vote in time to flip the polls

yea, makes it harder to react to snipes than for soul kills

#deleted-channel

00:32

please

Yeah

00:33

Thanks vera

vera nice

I'm genuinely proud of the fact that my AT claim worked initially

00:40

I don't think I had much of a chance winning after luffy was lynched

you and luffy both did really well honestly

00:46

wolves cucked you over lmao

yea you did really well katy

00:48

also luffy

the shape

wolves cucked you over lmao

katyyyy

Haii bestie

did you like me play?

which one?

00:50

you kinda died on me which was sad

Oh did you miss it lol

00:50

I told WT to claim hooker so there would be no wolf ctc

I'm a single braincell organism rn

00:51

Oh during d0

you asked me what i thought of WT's claim and i thought it was funny lol

00:51

N1

Lmaoooo ye

00:51

It is one of the plays of all time ig

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1123273987821158531/1123346222460178584

Fe D. Erick

you asked me what i thought of WT's claim and i thought it was funny lol

You were my one and only bestie in the game at that point (aside from luffy) and I had to chat with someone

00:53

That's how I figured out you weren't pack btw

00:53

In some games i forget you are even playing

Hjskdkekkrk

i think it happened recently when you were vamp lol

Okay tbf, I don't pull of a lot of moves like I did in this game

Fe D. Erick

That's how I figured out you weren't pack btw

Elaborate?

like you were playing IA

00:54

oh wait

00:55

You weren't playing inactive*

Fair, ig

00:56

Don't think I've been terribly active as solo in the past though

yea i guess its more of a main PR thing

00:57

so if you were CL, Vamp, Pack or Devil you would stay quiet

00:57

But I dont really know, its just based off gut feeling

00:57

I only remember forgetting you were playing once

00:57

and i was trusted

If only everyone would forget, then I'd win all the time (edited)

lmao

I cannot remember last time I was vamp though

OH it was Plague Bearer

01:01

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1092501915415359498/1093864194270564402

that makes more sense

01:03

I was very disappointed in Alpha not accepting my offer

he had devil protecting him

01:04

not devil

01:04

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

01:04

Witch

witch

01:04

Good job

Thanks

I'm on a 1 am brain studying dutch

Need help?

Nah it's just flashcards

I see

01:05

Good luck with it tho

ezpz

01:06

Also I still cant believe you are dutch

01:06

wtf

Fe D. Erick

he had devil protecting him

Still, I feel like it would've been a good trade, we could've killed a wolf with it

Fe D. Erick

Also I still cant believe you are dutch

Hoe dan

because i thought you were russian

LMAO???

I'm actually serious

Sorry I need you to explain how you came to that conclusion

I DON'T KNOW

01:08

I don't know if you know TTEXTT, but you kinda gave me TTEXTT vibes

01:08

TTEXTT isn't russian either, but close enough

01:08

my brain works in mysterious ways

I don't know TTEXTT

I need to know something, to keep myself sane

01:12

I need to believe I'm not crazy

sure

@Alphaluf are you French

01:12

Pls say yes

I'm pretty sure the closest we get to French in this server is Canada

I am sorry to disappoint Federick :(

01:13

Yeah

WHAT THE FUCK

K4tyH4wk

I'm pretty sure the closest we get to French in this server is Canada

je suis français

Fed I'm cackling

j'habite aux pays-bas

K4tyH4wk

I'm pretty sure the closest we get to French in this server is Canada

No way, @Nickickic is definitely French

j'ai vingt ans

01:13

et je mange le baguette

vikimousbirds

je suis français

YOU'RE AMERICAN DAMMIT, ACT LIKE IT YOU MAGGOT

muppet

01:14

calling people muppet is so funny

HOWDY PARDNER IIIM GONNA GO TO GOOD OLE WALMART AND BUY MYSELF A SHOTGUN TO DEFEND MY FARM FROM THEM DARN HOMOSEXUALS, GOD BLESS

AMEN

God bless america*

01:14

fake american spotted

Fe D. Erick

No way, @Nickickic is definitely French

Non.. Pourquoi pensez-vous cela?

You are literally speaking french rn

01:15

Am I being gaslit

he's french

01:15

lmao

SEE

01:15

I KNEW IT

01:15

also he just said no

Exactly

01:15

so am not

i didnt pass my french exam to not understand basic french

Fed what reality are you from

fed cant read people if its not an ingame role

K4tyH4wk

I'm pretty sure the closest we get to French in this server is Canada

Katy you were wrong

01:16

smh

Sure, I'll admit it if it makes you feel better

vikimousbirds

fed cant read people if its not an ingame role

I just read vibes, Katy gave me Russia/Bielorussia vibes or smth

New game where you need to find which place everyone is from

Don't ask me where Bielorussia is on a map

First to get them all wins

01:18

Federick over here is very clearly australian

01:18

He can't hide it

01:19

Been fake claiming italian for way too long

5tho

New game where you need to find which place everyone is from

adri once pointed to your house on google maps so thats gonna be easy

Federick - Italy Suso - Spain Vera - Duck Bart - Duck Marten - Duck Mat - Bielorussia Katy - Russia/Romenia? Nick - French

vikimousbirds

adri once pointed to your house on google maps so thats gonna be easy

Damn

this is what i would have said before the Duck revealed themselves

He gets a [Gross Negligence] from me

i dont want adri, bart or ts to be playing in that game either, theyve all been to my house

01:20

oh god katy and marten too

i was in ds' car mwahahah >:)

too many people have been to my house

01:20

thats terrifying

You've also been to my house

I havent

K4tyH4wk

You've also been to my house

mutual house visits

Who will visit me when I rent a house in Duckland?

me, depending on when

Fe D. Erick

I havent

You can come visit my house I'm sure none minds