Werewolves Revamped - mystery-solvers

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Now the mystery actually starts

10:03

did you beat pawnford and the bat?

Mystery!

11:50

Yea, did those yesterday

Hmm

12:07

I wonder what the crow's last color means

12:08

The glarthford crow model doesn't have any of the listed colors

12:08

Nor does the picture of it in Ts' pfp

12:08

Crowdford/crowhost also seems like a stretch and doesn't really work

(edited)

~~url~~

we figured out a few things in tavern

I just opened the channel now

12:21

I'm silly

12:21

im not completely sure on the answer but lilac makes sense

12:22

U Qain aj u Crav dz Aqul Svemi Imbir

Vhim u crav amci jliv,
lamg ucrass thi siu,
laakemg jar thi hoi,
ami 'le' thi vaolb di.

Jran hegh am u hell,
thi heghist aj ull,
et jliv am omtel,
u jemul biublz jull.

Huljvuz et beb riuch,
ta thi hells dzgami.
Lumbib am u diuch,
u jemul driuth bruvm.

Vhiri beb thi Crav bei?

12:22

When a crow once flew,
long across the sea,
looking for the hue,
one 'li' the would be.

From high on a hill,
the highest of all,
it flew on until,
a final deadly fall.

Halfway it did reach,
to the hills bygone.
Landed on a beach,
a final breath drawn.

Where did the Crow die?

(edited)

12:23

12:24

flying from the sea to the bygonids but only making it halfway would mean the Crow died on lilac ridge

12:24

one 'li' the would be.

this sentence makes no sense to me tho

I mean, the only option from the story time that appears on the map is lilac

not neccesarily

It is close to the bugonids and it also probably has a beach

my first thought was Delta

right

12:25

Delta is also weird

12:25

Not a common color

is delta even a color

Some blue

Werewolves Bot B

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here

oh interesting

I am noticing that there's a lot of colors in the map and I'm just blind

Werewolves Bot B

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that looks like a colorscheme that demonstrates how colorblind people see the world

Honestly yea

Mourner

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delta, blue and lilac are the only ones mentioned on this map

12:28

so they're the only options

Teal ? Ivory ? Green ocean Lilac ridge Blue defence Delta peaks Beige ? Smaragdine ? (edited)

oh the green ocean

right

12:28

I swear I saw ivory somewhere but now I think I'm hallucinating

but landing in the ocean wouldnt make sense? well ig with the beach

12:29

ivory isnt on that map, no

12:29

maybe the other?

12:29

12:30

nope

12:30

no ivory

hmm

12:31

A ridge is not really a beach is the issue I have (edited)

this would make the most sense

12:31

but i didnt think of the ridge as a beach either

12:31

but the bygonids seems like such a solid clue

12:32

that's why i thought delta might be possible too (before i realised bygonids was a thing)

12:33

it would land somewhere on the river shore

12:33

but i wouldnt call that a beach per se

When a crow once flew, long across the sea, looking for the hue, one 'li' the would be. From high on a hill, the highest of all, it flew on until, a final deadly fall. Halfway it did reach, to the hills bygone. Landed on a beach, a final breath drawn. Where did the Crow die?

12:34

Started at the highest hill

12:34

Flew across sea

12:34

End destination was the hills, reached halfway

12:34

Landed on a beach

High Peaks -> Harsol Sea -> Lilac Ridge -> Bygonids

Yea

looking for the hue, 'li'

High peaks to bygonids has to be lilac ridge

there's no way its anything other than Lilac Ridge, then

Still confused by landed on a beach, but possibly added for the rhyme

probably to show that it landed on the edge of land and water

12:36

so it rules out the green ocean and the blue defense

12:36

because those are only water and only land

yea

12:37

so it's gotta be lilac

12:37

so hidden in the swamp

12:37

it would be funny if it was actually the sewers tho

That noisy dog wouldn't stop bothering me the other day, I had to resort to hiding in the sewers. They are kind of stinky, but at least no one bothers me there... other than that megalomaniac weirdo.

whos line is that

mine lmao

ohhhh

12:39

Suso

12:39

not Brewer

Btw, any idea of what url was Ts' decoder under?

12:42

I haven't seen it in years

12:42

And I can't find any messages talking about it even in vertex

i couldnt find it either

12:43

i think last time i found it in crowdford somewhere

12:43

but crowdford has nothing

Hm

I found enderlang `~~url~~

https://archive.crowdford.com/tools/enderlang` (edited)

Error - Crowdford

Error Page

Damn, it picks it as a url even if I escape it

theres nothing on that page tho

12:49

@Evil Ts wheres the C translator

Mourner

theres nothing on that page tho

The bot added a %60 at the end of the thing

13:20

But the page only reverses strings and does mc fonts anyways

Hey

21:19

Crazy idea

what's the crazy idea

With the rules for this phase

mhm

Actually not really

what was your plan

The crazy idea probably won't work

is your plan

21:20

im sure we can figure something out to make us win

I was thinking of leveling people with 3 items

21:20

Then having them select

allright

And give the items to someone else

how many items do you have rn

And then that person selects

21:20

etc

21:20

But it's probably not immediate

hm

21:21

@Host is selecting immediate?

I got two items

Brewer

I got two items

yup, same

It's likely we all got the same amount

All actions are immediate, winning will consume whatever items were necessary to win

Damn

21:25

But yea makes sense

ah okay

21:26

thats fair

Hey vera

hey 5uso

I have a shield

hm okay

May I trade it for your bow?

21:34

I'm trying to do something stupid

do different things do different effects?

21:34

sure

21:34

i'll trade it

21:34

what do you wanna do tho

Mourner

do different things do different effects?

These both grant 1 strength

21:35

The bucket merchant (edited)

21:35

Says they have a bucket

bucket merchant?

21:35

LMAO

21:35

trade a sponge

I only have a shield and a banner

21:35

But with a bow and a banner

21:35

I can convince them to give me the bucket

really?

21:35

why do you want the bucket tho

It apparently makes you powerful

21:36

But the bucket merchant can't win with it

21:36

They need to merchant it

lmao??

21:36

dont let him win

It doesn't matter

hm

21:36

okay so

Enemies winning doesn't really affect our score

true

As long as we get winning conditions

we just need to win

21:37

im thinking of attacking fast

21:37

asap

21:37

so people wont have good stuff

Yeah

21:37

I was trying to get more strength but it's tough

21:37

You can trade your banner to a loyalist

21:38

Could you do the bow <-> shield trade then?

21:38

I think for your plan it doesn't affect anything

21:39

I kinda just want to see if I get scammed with the bucket

21:39

But it sounds insane enough to be something Ts would do

21:41

@Mourner ?

yeah it'll work

Brewer

You can trade your banner to a loyalist

sounds funny

21:41

lets do it

Epic

21:41

(I got the shield from federick actually)

21:41

Started with 0 power lmao

21:42

@Host Trade shield for bow thing I guess

^

Suso -> Vera

️ Vera -> Suso

epic

this was the most dramatic event so far

23:04

im just glad i didnt get killed

23:04

i hope next event is puzzle

23:04

whats the next tale?

23:05

ah, fireworks

This event got a bit out of hand

a bit

23:06

i hope fireworks is just a little calmer

This absolutely needed a bot, because this was way too many actions

i already saw ghast and zombie are wwress

23:06

couldnt get those to work tho

They're disabled

that's what i thought

Evil Ts

This absolutely needed a bot, because this was way too many actions

yea

23:09

But

23:09

It was cool

23:09

I just love event games

it was a little much imo

23:09

i like the solving

I got scammed and I still liked it

23:09

Tbf it was half on purpose

yeah that scam was on you

23:10

i was trying my best but i genuinely didnt know where to start

I just convinced fed

23:13

Starting with 2 banners was rough

The main problem with this one is that people who missed the start are going to have a much harder time

true that

01:00

or people who dont have ccs left

01:00

or people who are just in general confused

Hey

12:58

Any ideas on that double death?

wolves, assassin, hod

12:58

or a mystery amne turned tk

Right

wolves and hod being most likely

I totally forgot about hod

double wolf kill being least likely

Brewer

I totally forgot about hod

bro me too

Assassin seems unlikely unless ft got lucky

12:59

But possible

yeah, its definitely possible

13:00

or we got a maniac assassin random killing

13:00

swurtle moment or something

pfff

13:00

not again

13:00

that one time we were lucky

13:00

somehow three bullets and no misfires

yea luck, but that was bad strats

I actually don't remember if I was town that game (edited)

i dont think i was involved in that game?

no idea

lemme check

13:03

oh we were both town

13:03

i was bartender, you were ms

Right

wait

13:04

theres 2 swurtle assassin games

13:05

the other one i was chef and you were juror

Mourner

i was bartender, you were ms

you were actually hag, i just straight up read Suso (jay's nickname)

HAH

lmao

13:06

okay in that game swurtle died after killing 2 wolves

13:06

in the other one swurtle killed wolf, psycho and cerberus

13:07

so both are extremely lucky lmao

Hey vera

16:47

On the lynch thing

16:48

I have no real info for targets, but someone randomly came to me with a suspicion

ohhh

17:06

i love that

17:06

lemme hear it

They think invinci is scum

17:08

There's a reason for it

17:09

It's not too strong a reason

17:09

But it is somewhat valid I guess

well, anything to get people off that stupid ranger lynch

17:09

whats the reasoning tho

Telling you isn't objectively a good idea but I might as well

well if it's a potention target, it'll have to go public anyways, whatever it is

They had a conversation, then this person got doomed

nobody is gonna blindly lynch with no confirmed trusted

Brewer

They had a conversation, then this person got doomed

did something in the conversation get a hm to doom

17:10

as that seems like a terrible move

No clue

17:11

But it's the only lead I have

hm

17:11

well

It's weak, which is the issue

i did say we gotta lynch

17:11

it is weak

17:11

extremely weak

17:11

but do you think its enough to warrant a lynch on tank?

hm

17:12

I don't know

17:12

We can't really afford lynching the rangers

17:12

And we're doing nothing atm

exactly

Maybe there's town movement in ccs via ft

you think so?

But if ft is dead we are fucked if we do nothing

id think town would try to do more

17:13

unless its people who are already in the conversation

17:13

i dont know

Honestly I considered fake claiming ranger fed style

should we follow up on the tank suspicion?

17:13

lmao

17:13

honestl

To avoid this happening

wouldve been good

But I missed my chance

Mourner

should we follow up on the tank suspicion?

Maybe we can get some info on it

making it public wont hurt, i think

17:14

he either defends himself or works himself further into the suspicion

Uh

it'll get people thinking right?

If we don't convince people on the lynch

17:14

Horsemen get info

true

17:14

wait

17:14

you wanna make this a silent lynch that we then reveal after?

17:14

something like that?

17:14

that's sus tho

hmmm

17:15

Wolves can make us look real bad

17:15

I was planning on doing something at the start of night phase to try to confirm myself

17:15

But I need ft to be alive

17:15

And there's a 17.6% chance they are dead already

interesting

17:15

oh

17:15

that's honestly quite significnat

17:16

signficicnant

17:16

yknow

17:16

that word

lmao

17:16

Also, no trusted reporter sucks

17:16

aa

yea

17:17

it complicates matters

17:17

okay so no trusted reporter

17:17

and only a silent lynch target

17:17

that might get too much info out

17:17

how many people know about this tank thing

They may have told one other person

we could create a cc with people who are in on the lynch and then reveal the plan when the lynch is over?

So, we would be 4

17:18

I am afraid to give targets to wolves

makes sense

17:18

4 is a low numbers

17:18

but i see how going public complicates matters

17:19

we cant have hm uniting and sharing targets

17:19

thats BAD

I mean, if we manage to ensure the lynch then it doesn't matter

we'd need more numbers

Also, some people have been very silent

who do you mean

17:21

could be power roles or something idk

Like Huck, Harp, Swurtle

17:21

At least when it comes to non minigame stuff

17:21

But they could be busy

huck and swurtle concern me

17:21

harp never really participates unless asked to

The issue is there hasn't been too much insightful discussion so far

17:23

So it's hard to get reads on it tbf

there's les being les

I refuse to read les

but a lot of shitposting, yes

17:23

what's your thoughts on who's the real ranger

17:23

i genuinely dont know anymore

If derp is fake he's horseman or packless

17:23

A pack wolf would have rehearsed (edited)

lmaoo

17:24

that makes sense

17:24

and he was pressured by les too

Both could be fake regardless

17:25

I had a chat with derp in cc

17:25

To ask him about targeting and such

Brewer

Both could be fake regardless

wait really?

Not as in, both at the same time

you think theres a possibility real ranger hasnt claimed

17:25

ohhhh

It is a possiblity but super slim

17:26

It's not, realistically

17:26

So we assume one is real

id say it's scum vs town ye

Derp said he was targeting nick, and that he was planning to switch during the night phase because nothing other than the lynch can kill him atm

17:26

And the lynch doesn't reveal

17:27

I told him to switch this phase regardless because it's free

yeah

And then he can also switch next phase

why not use the free switch

He seemed to agree in the end

17:29

Oh yeah

17:29

Whythough did accuse lauch when asked by les

17:29

Which seems a bit strange but idk if normal for whythough

accuse lauch?

17:30

of what

17:31

gimme a sec to read

17:31

oh

do you have any suses? other then derp

im not good at reads but lauch bc of what he said about the late claim thing and then he tried to play it as a joke

right

17:31

lauch immediately accused wt of being the fake one, based on meta reasoning

17:31

ig wt accused lauch because lauch accused him first

makes sense

which makes sense

Is making one of the ranger claims reporter just stupid?

17:35

Idk if scum reporter is horrible atm

hm

I guess it's a 50/50 which is worse than random chance

well

But they would not die

ft can check reporter

17:35

however

17:36

i can see hm immediately going onto rep to avoid ft check being truthful

Horseman Of Pestilence [Solo Power - Horsemen Team]

Limited Role

Basics

Each night, the Horseman of Pestilence may doom a player. Too sick to act, any attempt of that player to use an ability during the following day and night will fail.

Details

Dooming a player is an immediate effect. For the following day and night, any attempts to use an active ability will fail for that player, as they will be role blocked. For more information, check $i doom. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

wrong one

Horseman Of Famine [Solo Power - Horsemen Team]

Limited Role

Basics

Each night, the Horseman of Famine may doom two players. Doomed by the Horseman of Famine, they are starved, becoming unrecognizable. Instead, they will permanently be seen as a horseman role.

Details

Dooming a player is an immediate effect. Players doomed by the Horseman of Famine will be permanently and strongly disguised as an arbitrary in-play Horseman role (one that existed when Night 1 starts). For more information, check $i doom. The Horsemen win when everyone else is dead.

We would need ft to be active

Fortune Teller [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Each night, the Fortune Teller may check one player’s role.

Details

Each night, the Fortune Teller can inspect a player. The Fortune Teller will be told what their role is. Inspecting a player is an immediate ability. The Fortune Teller gains more information, but is affected by weak disguises, redirections, and obstructions.

yeah

This is the same issue with my plan

17:36

I just hate the immediate disguise

ft would need to be on it before horseman would be on it

17:38

announcing that would alert both

yeah

17:40

And then it becomes a race of delaying till the start of phase I guess

yup

17:40

which is definitely not what we want

17:41

i think starting a tank lynch cc (we need a lynch and tank is from what i hear the only sus) and then revealing the cc afterwards might be the best option

17:41

but its so goddamn suspicious

17:41

everything about that screams sus

We need a way out

17:42

But it's just very unreliable

17:42

And if we're wrong about the lynch we're toast

the reasoning behind keeping it secret is completely valid tho

17:42

keeping a suspected hm away form other hm

17:42

any publically revealed hm will probalby try to unite the hm

Right

17:44

It's just messy

17:44

Even if we don't tell

17:44

If invinci notices the lynch we're in trouble

does invinci know that people sus him for being hm?

17:45

or does someone just silently sus him

I think he does not know

17:46

Honestly going for this is just like going for random lynch but we don't feel as bad about it

lmao

17:46

well

17:47

i think going off a suspicion is beter than going off of nothing

yeah

im pretty convinced we should do a tank lynch

17:47

it's maybe got barely any backup

17:47

but keeping that ranger lynch away is good

17:50

having nothing to base anything off is making this game extremely difficult

Claim collecting is not easy with this list

17:53

And I think town relies too much in claim collecting

17:53

I really don't know how to play with other strats tbf

yeah me neither

17:53

maybe what we're doing rn works?

17:54

getting suspicions and just working from there?

If we keep assassin alive we can handle a tough situation once we've disentangled the ranger mess

yup

17:55

okay olay

17:55

so

17:55

what if we target tank and if anyone tries to defend we lynch the defender too?

17:55

yeah idk

17:56

idk what to do

17:57

im gonna be busy playing tog but i assume we'll take a wwr phase change break because jay and ts will be watching

Mourner

what if we target tank and if anyone tries to defend we lynch the defender too?

HAH

17:58

that is so unhinged

we gotta do something

17:58

we cant miss out on another lynch

Ok

18:55

Now it is known

18:55

Ghost is 100% scum

18:55

Invinci is likely scum too

tl;dr?

I'm pretty sure you're a horseman I want to strike a deal

Ok

It's only N1 so the chances of you finding the others are very small I can help you look and in return I don't die in the next two days

How can you help me look tho What role are you that helps me look for horsemen. Wolf cub? Man if you don't respond I'm pinging everyone and saying you fucked up an amne claim

that one half hour i was at dinner

This is from their cc

18:56

lmao

18:56

Ghost thought it was N1 in it

lmaoo

And said the amne options

18:56

Implying he hadn't gotten a role yet

18:56

But

18:57

It was n2

18:57

HAHA

18:57

Gh0st Queen yesterday at 23:53: It's only N1

pff

18:57

18:57

that one

18:58

okay so we lynch both

18:58

what do we do about reporter

18:58

i think huck is too pushy

Look at the polls btw

18:58

Some strange votes here and there

18:58

May be worth taking notes

huh

18:58

yea

18:59

lauch on tank for both lynches

18:59

huck and slow for huck

18:59

why is slow voting with huck

Derp voting two random people

19:00

I am silly

19:00

I misread the name

vera

19:15

Thoughts on pinging in case any amne claims are missing

go ahead

19:21

im playing tog

19:21

so i'll be afk until like, phase change

Yeah until jay shows up you can't start, right?

19:22

so you'll be afk

19:22

not starting

we're fixing server issues

until phase change shows up

19:22

Mourner

we're fixing server issues

it was not a server issue

12:30

@Brewer did you win last phase's event?

Uh

13:16

I went to sleep

13:16

So, no?

I don't know what's with the fire (edited)

i won but im not allowed to tell how i won

Brewer

until phase change shows up

wouldve been perfectly on time if i didnt kill myself with the mayors hat

this is so sad

did you solve the wwrdle?

13:40

its honestly more difficult than solving the fire

I will after I get the fire

fair fair

13:41

i lost the wwrdle already

Mourner

used /result

✨

⬛

got slimed

wow

13:45

that's a mess

it never gave me a hint about the version

13:45

but did remind me that i had the right alignment 5 times

I just won the fire

13:53

Confusion

13:53

Anyways time for wwrdle

Brewer

I just won the fire

so how did you win

13:54

wait we cant share that

13:54

we'll wait for the answers

smh rule breaking

Brewer

used /result

✨

⬛

Insane

14:05

Imagine getting ⬛

you got better hints epsn

Tbf yea

version sorts out a lot of roles

But they were still very bad hints lmao

you didnt get alignment once pfft

14:06

that's bad

Ice spike field (Winter fog, wind around ice spikes?, no wood)
~~Forest~~ (Nothing up high)
~~Glarthford~~ (Outside the walls)
~~Swamp~~ (Near halfway from east to west)
~~Lake~~ (Noting up high)
~~Mountains~~ (Near halfway from east to west)
Spring (Up high, cobwebs, no wood nor wind)
~~Volcano~~ (Up high, no wood nor wind, not the vibe) This is what I have, I don't really see any place that doesn't contradict at least something

18:44

Ice spike field gets the closest, but the attic stuff is really strange in that case

for my i thought itd be mountains

18:46

because of the wood constructions

18:46

it's not halfway

Mountains are really far off the center though

When he'd near halfway crossed,

near halfway

18:46

maybe that refers between mountains and the town itself, because it's not within the walls

18:46

i thought mountains would come closest

18:46

because of the cobwebs etc

18:47

but this one is so difficult

18:47

mountains seems to match up the most tho

If the crow was flying from east to west

yeah thats the only thing

It wouldn't see the mountains when halfway through

but none of the others make sense

18:47

ig forest but forest is just too far north imo

The north thing doesn't really matter, does it?

18:48

As long as you cross from east to west

hm true

18:48

in that case

18:48

its still east to west

There are no cobwebs or winter fog though

just before halfway

Brewer

There are no cobwebs or winter fog though

not in an attic, no

18:48

but in a basement?

18:49

thomas' basement has cobwebs im pretty sure?

18:49

jay has seen that on stream

The basement is part of the lumberjack's

or at least seen the basement

Which is marked on the map but not red

but the forest is

18:49

and the lumberjack is in the forest

18:49

and the lumberjack has a top floor

18:50

highest building in the forest

18:50

im leaning towards forest now

18:50

i thought my mountains guess was so solid

Winter fog points towards mountains or ice spikes I guess

18:51

Ice spikes technically meets all criteria but with the biggest technicalities for each

ice spikes makes least sense out of those

18:52

ice spikes has nothing to east to west

18:52

i think at that point north to south wouldve be better

It's centered in the map

true

18:52

it's halfway through east and west

18:52

but no wood or attic or anything

18:52

it'd disregard an entire poem

The entrance is a cabin thing

18:52

But idk if jay knows

the cabin doesnt have an attic

18:53

jay hasnt seen end disease yet

18:53

we solved fireworks yesterday

18:54

jay has been update on the lore because i read the entirety of thomas' diary to them

18:54

25 pages of the dryest diary

lmao

18:54

The mountains fit the attic poem the best

18:54

But the east to west poem the worst

yeah

This is painful

the east to west the worst

18:54

but it has an east element

18:54

its the most east thing

18:54

yeah idk

18:55

i decided the entrance to the mines was close enough to the town to be considered halfway

HMMM

18:55

What about

18:55

Swamp?

18:55

Swamp is to the west

with the witch's hut

But you can see west when flying towards it

it's not all the way on the side of the map

18:56

so possible

18:56

lemme get this here

18:56

see id think mountains would include the mines

18:56

and thats already closer midway

But swamp just doesn't make sense for wind or winter fog

18:57

It's not recognizably high either

swamp does get frozen over, right?

Uhh, I think so

witch's hut is specifically higher up because it is in the swamp (edited)

It's one of the tallest buildings in the map

18:57

But jay was confused when I told them I was opening minecraft

LMAO

So my guess is that doesn't matter lmao

yeah

18:58

actual tog lore doesnt matter

18:58

i checked with jay and ts

18:58

jay made the game so it's based on jay's perception of glarthford

18:58

we've been in the witches' hut but it contains marhjo so ig that brings it down low

Likely:

Forest (Wood)
Ice spike field (Winter fog)
Swamp (Fits the vibe, wood)

Maybe: Nope:

~~Glarthford~~ (Outside the walls)
~~Volcano~~ (Why even)
~~Lake~~ (Not high, nothing too related)
~~Mountains~~ (Too far east, but high and cold)
~~Spring~~ (No wood, high)

(edited)

volcano has nothing

19:01

volcano is just a visual but its got no buildings, nothing

19:01

and nothing jay jas seen yet

19:02

the spring is high

19:02

but nothing wood

Yeah

19:02

It has cobwebs

forest , mountains and ice spikes are highest possibility

19:02

swamp works too

But I don't think that matters

lake has nothing special

19:02

its just the halfway

19:02

nothing high

Spring doesn't make sense unless you know tog

19:08

Because part of the things pointing to it are ingame

19:09

In the attic, the cobwebs stretch Sunset glitters off their strands Wood creaks with the wistful wind Which winds around us like winter fog We are together, alone, together, Here up high where none can see us Our love is not the only secret here It keeps good company

19:09

Thing is

19:09

Who is "we" here?

19:09

My guess was the ice spikes

19:09

They are tall and also north so "high up"

19:09

Also winter fog and wind around them

19:10

But the wood thing makes no sense