Werewolves Revamped

Wolfpack

Most of the werewolves (Members of the Werewolf Team) are also part of the wolfpack. All members of the wolfpack know each other and receive a secret channel to communicate among themselves securely. Each night, the wolfpack votes to attack one player. Not all members of the wolfpack necessarily are also werewolves. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are also part of the pack. If there are no werewolves or lycans left in the wolfpack, the wolfpack is disbanded. Lycans Most, but not all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. This is relevant for roles such as the Priest. Unless explicitly listed otherwise, all members of the Werewolf Team are lycans. Lycans are those members of the werewolf team that truly are werewolves, and not just allies of the werewolves (e.g. while foxes are part of the werewolf team they aren't truly werewolves, so they aren't lycans).

bark bark woof woof

19:15

omg hi vera

Furry team yay

this is a good lineup for a furry team

Omg yeah

i assume it is safe to reveal our roles

I'm waiting for the list

Yeah

ye

It's very unlikely there's a chance for www if there's only 4 pack roles

19:18

But it can't hurt to wait, it'll be posted soon

19:18

6 wolves

so 2 packless

yup

Werewolf Miscellaneous

Scared Wolf SneakingWolf

Sneaking Wolf TricksterWolf

Trickster Wolf (T) Wolf

Wolf

Wolf Cub

Knowledgeable Wolf Recluse

Recluse

allright so

19:20

no way www fits in this list

19:20

So I think its safe to reveal what roles we have, everyone agreed?

yep

Yeah

i'll wait for huck

19:21

better be safe than sorry, it's only d0

yea

19:21

better to plan claims sooner than later tho

19:21

never know what'll happen

what outrageous role can i claim

FURRY!

Furry

so are we all good to claim to each other

19:28

www is very unlikely

This team has all the sexy ppl in it fr

sooo true

i love our team!

19:29

i may go quiet this game in town chats. since ive been rambunctious the last couple of games.

19:30

but then again

allright

19:30

i guess we can claim then?

sure

Ywah

19:30

Im saboteur wolf

everyone 100% agree that we dont think there's www?

19:30

allright

i'm wolf cub

I'm psy wolf

im wolf cub also

is the role list hidden?

yeah

19:31

partially

19:31

check info

do people just,,, not read?

i dont read, i ask.

19:32

its my strat

i hate you for doing that

but fr. i cant find the role list. thats why i asked

It's in info

19:32

ROLE LIST Town [9] • TK • Assassin • TM [5] • Oracle • Other Town Wolves [6] • Archivist Fox • Wolf Cub - Huck • Wolf Cub - Krem • Saboteur Wolf - Rabbit • Psychic Wolf - Vera • Clairvoyant Fox - Sharl Solo [3] • Cerberus - Bart • Devil • Demon/Plague Bearer Unknown • Val • Katy (not archivist) • Phantom • 8th • Babi • Oreo • Nick • Arch • Fed ~~• ddd (not hell)~~ • Snivy (edited)

1

19:33

whores

considering the amount of killing roles i think two wolf cubs makes sense...?

19:34

but im not a role list expert. at all

no thats me

hmm... maybe thats hidden for me. let me check the thing sent in story time

#information

^

Runner [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

Once per game, if attacked by a wolfish player, the Runner shall escape.

Details

When they are attacked by a wolfish player, the Runner will not die, but will be vulnerable to future attacks. If a Runner is targeted by any attack other than by a wolfish player's attack, they will die the first time. Runners are informed that they were attacked. If a Runner evades a wolfpack attack, the wolfpack is told their target ran away. If a Runner evades any other attack, the wolfish player responsible is informed instead.

weird, couldnt find that before. sorry yall. off to a good start lol

Why would ddd claim runner immediately lmao

chaos

19:36

ddd self admittedly plays for chaos

19:36

we shouldn't take anything he says seriously

okay so are we also agreeing that solo must be hell?

regarding claims, we should definitely claim a TK, unless we think packless will claim tk

Blodwin de Block

okay so are we also agreeing that solo must be hell?

i mean we have cerb so

yeah

19:37

however

19:37

3 hell

19:37

:/

oof. thats not great

Cerb?

Cerberus [Solo Power - Hell Team]

Limited Role

Basics

The Cerberus wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. The Cerberus can choose every day to send an offer of protection to another player in exchange for their soul.

Details

During the first phase, the Cerberus may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Cerberus’ soul is added to the hell team’s pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Cerberus cannot use souls from the soul pool. The Cerberus can't send the offer to soulless players. The offer is sent at the start of the night. The offer cannot be redirected onto another player. The Cerberus can anonymously communicate with the recipient. The recipient accept or ignore the offer. Accepting the offer, immediately adds the recipient's soul to the soul pool, and cannot be changed. Should the recipient be attacked and die after accepting the offer, the Cerberus dies instead and the role and identity of the attacker is revealed in the Hell team’s channel. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. If the Cerberus is the last living member of the Hell team/channel, they turn into a demon.

Ohh

do we agree that selling our souls is a bad idea? or wanna wait and see how things are looking if offered?

it is a bad idea because we also have 0 planning rn

like, if we shut them out as a whole, they may struggle way more than if everyone just donates souls willy nilly

we have to make decisions as a team

19:41

and selling souls only sells 1 soul, not the team's soul, so we dont do it

19:41

thats the worst way to say "dont sell your soul"

lmao. yeah, im into it.

kinky

do we agree that wolf cubs should claim the riskier roles

definitely

yarp

What does selling your soul do again

i guess i'll use my age-old argument of "if i were a better role, i wouldve claimed a better role" because i normally claim outrageous roles

Rabie.Sh0cks

What does selling your soul do again

BAD STUFF LITTLE CHILD

Rabie.Sh0cks

What does selling your soul do again

mechanically, nothing, but it helps hell win

Ohh

they are protected by souls and can also use souls sold to kill people

Ivan Ivanovich

mechanically, nothing, but it helps hell win

interesting take

19:43

"mechanically nothing"

19:43

mechanically it does rather a lot

okay you know what i mean

alright ivan

leave poor ivan alone

ivan to suck your blood

we're a team and we do NOT accept bullying in this safe space

i may claim assassin? or priest could be interesting. either way.... a TK? or is that too risky?

tk needs to be ctc'd

priest

Blodwin de Block

we're a team and we do NOT accept bullying in this safe space

i am not part of this team

yeah but your two besties are part of this team

Jack Jackson

i am not part of this team

we dont accept bullying from outside the team either

ergo you are part of this team

Only we're allowed to bully

no im teamed with mato

nice! jay is on our team! thatll help!

i know where your house lives jay, i will not hesitate to mail you a homemade pipe bomb (i dont know how to make a pipe bomb)

okay... ill tenatively claim priest then.

YOU KNOW WHERE MY HOUSE LIVES

put a bomb in a pipe. easy

Jack Jackson

YOU KNOW WHERE MY HOUSE LIVES

am i wrong?

like. i guess not!

I can send you the ingredients vera

exactly

houses dont "live" though

they should have a TI

50% of pack knows where my house lives

and a TP then?

that i know of

19:46

anyway ill leave you to wolf

i however do not know where your bed sleeps

i dont wanna interrupt

smh

19:47

smhost throwing

Jack Jackson

that i know of

(:

anyway

i'll go claim some stupid tm

19:47

guys

19:47

should i claim cursed civ

that could be a fun claim.

do i want to claim TI or TP

Didn't know your house is alive

huck as priest, me as cursed civ, we do need a ti and tp ctc

Luffy Luffhauser

Didn't know your house is alive

shut up you're not part of our team

Idiot [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

If the Idiot dies for the first time, they instead live, but lose their voting power.

Details

The first time the Idiot is lynched, attacked or killed, they will survive. However, the Idiot loses their vote and is informed about this. If the Idiot is Mayor, they will still have their Mayor vote.

this is a team-only chat

claims huck - priest vera - cursed civ krem - oracle rabie - exo (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-Apr-23 07:48 PM

Syntax error. Unknown command tp!

i have forgotten every command

stop doing that

Townsfolk Power

Fletcher

Grandma

Hooker

Medium

Royal Knight Stalker

Stalker

Exorcist

Herald

What should i claim pookies

hm

do we think archivist fox will claim ti or will they play it safe

a ti ctc would be convenient

Why

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-Apr-23 07:49 PM

but archi should probably ctc ti

19:49

well we dont want town to trust their ti's

Ohh

19:50

OH yeah

if a ti is not counterclaimed it is automatically trusted

Syntax error. Unknown command ti!

19:50

Townsfolk Investigative

Aura Teller CrowdSeeker

Crowd Seeker FortuneTeller

Fortune Teller

Huntsman

Oracle

Innkeeper

Coroner

AT could be good?

Innkeeper [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Each night, the Innkeeper may check any role to determine the number of players currently alive with that role.

Details

Each night the Innkeeper can get a status on a specific role. Checking the status of a specific role will let the Innkeeper know how many players with that role are left in the game. Checking the status of a specific role is an immediate ability. Checking status on roles works on any role whether in the game or not. The Innkeeper is affected by strong disguises.

ive never seen innkeeper in a game legitimately lmao

19:50

at least as far as i remember

me niether

it's kind of a useless ti

I'll claim innkeeper

/j

be bold and claim something like at or whatever

Aura Teller [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Each night, the Aura Teller may check a target to determine if they are “a threat” or “not a threat”.

Details

The Aura Teller cannot see a player’s role, but they can check whether or not they are a threat. Lycans, and roles classified as killing roles show up as a threat. The Aura Teller’s inspection is an immediate ability. Some roles or players may be able to kill, but will not show up as threats as they are neither lycans nor a role classified as a killing role. The Aura Teller is affected by strong disguises and redirections, but not by obstructions.

i mean, since its been so long, might actually be in the list.... perhaps?

throwback to the horsepack game

Obstructions - Basics

Powers can be obstructed due to another role. If not explicitly listed otherwise, every role is not affected by obstructions.

any TI that doesn't give definite information is good

aka AT

Isnt AT a pretty basic ww claim

doesnt mean its not in the game

huntsman's more basic

Ohh true

and all you have to say is threat or not threat.... dont have to come up with role guesses or anything

well yes

19:53

they can use an at claim to check a tk claim

When is a good time to claim a ti

when there's a confirmed lead

yup

Ok

what about oracle

Kent sounds like kunt

oracle hasnt been used much, so ig it works

Oracle [Townsfolk Investigative]

Basics

Every night, the Oracle can select two players and see if they have the same current alignment as each other. Each player can only be checked once.

Details

Each night, the Oracle can inspect two players. The Oracle will be told whether they have the same current alignment or not. The Oracle can select itself as one of the two players, but can only select each player once throughout the game. Inspecting players is an immediate ability. Unaligned roles (if they are still unaligned) have the same alignment as each other, solo roles on opposing teams do not. Some roles' current alignments may be different than their role's starting alignment (e.g. Cupid, Cupid's Lover). The Oracle is not affected by disguises or obstructions, but is affected by redirections.

i have already been oracle before

19:55

but that was a while ago

Seems too difficult for me to fake lmao

oracle is equivalent to AT tbh

yeah

Ohh ok

we can help, no worries

Thank you babagirls

town will ask you to check two players, and you have to say if they're the same alignment or not

and make sure not to double check

19:56

bc you can check each person once only

Ok

so choose some people every night, you can tell us and we can help keep track

am i claiming a TP then

oh, is checking the same person twice rule new?

Ivan Ivanovich

am i claiming a TP then

yup

19:57

if you want

19:57

that'd cover the bases

could do exorcist...? but i have played exorcist legitimately twice

hm

19:58

well that shouldnt be an issue

fletch and grandma are confirmable, rk too

like, doesnt oracle normally check someone else with themselves normally? every night

herald is just a shit role

Huck Huxley

like, doesnt oracle normally check someone else with themselves normally? every night

no

exo sounds like itd be likely with 3 solos

they can only check themselves once

Huck Huxley

like, doesnt oracle normally check someone else with themselves normally? every night

what no

19:58

that'd be practically useless

pls read emoji

huck please

19:58

read before you ask questions, you look so goddamn stupid

what role am i thinking of then?

some TI idk

hey, i am stupid, cut me slack

Where did that even come from

no ti checks against themselves every night

How did you misinterpret the role that badly

or we could switch? rabies could claim exo and i could claim oracle

20:00

idk

that would work too

Exorcist [Townsfolk Power]

Basics

Each day, the Exorcist may remove negative effects from one player.

Details

Each day, the Exorcist can exorcise one player. All negative effects caused by solo roles are removed from the player and the Exorcist is informed which effects were removed. Exorcising a player is an immediate effect. Players that have already been exorcised can not be exorcised again. The Exorcist can not cure players if they have changed role as the result of an effect, such as the Undead, but can still remove other possible effects the Undead has. All the members of the solo team whose effect is cured are informed about this.

Negative Effects

The following effects can be removed by the Exorcist: Enchanted/Charmed - Flute Team Soulless - Hell Team Powdered - Pyro Team Demonized - Underworld Team Contaminated/Contagious - Plague Team Sleepless - Nightmare Team Herded - Flock Team Bitten - Graveyard Team Doomed - Horsemen Team

exo is probably a bit easier to fake but i think if a role comes out of nowhere it'd be more believable

20:00

like my alt claiming coroner that one time and winning as solo

wait, if i claim priest and there is already a priest, i would prolly get watered. but thats good right? for us, cuz cub.

What if someone actually does get affected somehow

oh nm.... could be hell too

Rabie.Sh0cks

What if someone actually does get affected somehow

wdym

Blodwin de Block

like my alt claiming coroner that one time and winning as solo

dont remind me that was traumatic

Like

20:01

Someone gets one of the effects

Huck Huxley

wait, if i claim priest and there is already a priest, i would prolly get watered. but thats good right? for us, cuz cub.

unlikely imo

And they ask exo to remove it

unless they have strong reason to trust the other claim

20:02

but idk actually

20:02

who knows

Rabie.Sh0cks

And they ask exo to remove it

exo can remove soulless

Rabie.Sh0cks

And they ask exo to remove it

we'll help you in that situation, just let us know whatever town says

but it doesn't take away a soul from hell which in my opinion is a bit weird

we have 2 invest roles so we have pretty good info

Oh ok

shld we write the claims in the pinned message

Yeah

have we landed on claims for krem and rabie? i can add it

rabies exo, me oracle

k

sounds good

done

Hell Team

Demon

Devil

Demonic Cupid (T) Imp

Imp (T)

Cerberus

20:06

Solo Killing

Demon (Hell Team) Devil

Devil (Hell Team)

Pyromancer (Pyro Team) Wisp

Wisp (Pyro Team) WhiteWerewolf

White Werewolf (White Wolves) PlagueBearer

Plague Bearer (Plague Team) Firebug

Firebug (Pyro Team) Reaper

Reaper (Nightmare Team) Wraith

Wraith (Nightmare Team) BitterHag

Bitter Hag (Hag Team; T) ApocalypticHorseman

Apocalyptic Horseman (Horsemen Team; T) HorsemanofDeath

Horseman of Death (Horsemen Team)

yup it can be a devil+demon combo

is it unlikely that hell has 2 and we still have a www?

yes, www would give only 3 other pack

20:07

which is way too little

k. great

Cerberus [Solo Power - Hell Team]

Limited Role

Basics

The Cerberus wins with the devil and joins a channel with the devil to communicate securely. The Cerberus can choose every day to send an offer of protection to another player in exchange for their soul.

Details

During the first phase, the Cerberus may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Cerberus’ soul is added to the hell team’s pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Cerberus cannot use souls from the soul pool. The Cerberus can't send the offer to soulless players. The offer is sent at the start of the night. The offer cannot be redirected onto another player. The Cerberus can anonymously communicate with the recipient. The recipient accept or ignore the offer. Accepting the offer, immediately adds the recipient's soul to the soul pool, and cannot be changed. Should the recipient be attacked and die after accepting the offer, the Cerberus dies instead and the role and identity of the attacker is revealed in the Hell team’s channel. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way. If the Cerberus is the last living member of the Hell team/channel, they turn into a demon.

okay so there has to be more hell

20:08

confirmend by the last line of cerberus

at least 1. what other solo could act alone?

pb

so there could potentially be pb. but that seems wierd in a season game. doesnt it?

20:09

like, having cerb would be best with 2 others in hell.

likely

20:10

so its gotta be devil+demon

20:10

only 1 devil can exist and hell without devil, althought possible, is a bit weird

and for that well know by tomorrow if someone mentions they were wagered. (for the devil)

20:11

or tonight actually

Wait does other town include ti

yes

20:13

other town can be any role

20:13

they have to have a ti

Oh ok

otherwise that's weird

20:13

and probably also have a tp

this list could make guessing roles tricky (for psy wolf)

20:14

is it worth guessing at the devil?

20:14

like, for now

hm

20:15

maybe

cuz we dontreally have anything else to go on atm

psywolf is just shooting birds in the dark

20:16

except when huck is psywolf (i think that was you??) and you guess correct twice in a row

yeah, was me. RNG gods smiled on me that game lol

20:21

I’m going to (for no based reason at all) say that ddd is on the hell team. Hell can appear to be runner, so would make short term sense. But also, ddd is chaos, so maybe not.

in all likelihood ddd is some TM trying to be chaotic

You know me, always thinking ddd is solo

20:37

One of these days I’ll be right. And I think today might be it!

Also, can we assume 1-2 of the TMs are cits? Since they are always in the list?

we cant assume it but in all likelihood, yes

Oh. There’s no UA. Would that be because of the size of game? Or because there may be 2 solos?

20:58

Doubt 2 solos, but just checking.

probably the size of the game

Huck Huxley

Also, can we assume 1-2 of the TMs are cits? Since they are always in the list?

thats not true?

I’ve never played a game without a cit, so it’s more of a question for the longer playing ppl.

there can definitely be games without cit

Poll #violence

23:02

- @Will Williams

- @Ivan Ivanovich

- @Link Lincoln

- @Kenneth Kennedy

️ - @Huck Huxley

- @Rabie.Sh0cks

️ - @Brooke Brooks

‍

- @Mat Matthews

- @Blodwin de Block

️ - @Finn Finnian

- @Harry Harris

- @TheOreo

- @Nicholas Nickels

- @Jean Jean-Jacques

- @Cam Cameron orb

- @Beck Beckham

- @Dave Davids ❤️ - @Smith Smith ❓ - Random

An Archivist Fox archived an Oracle. A Clairvoyant Fox checked a Cerberus. (edited)

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ohhh damn

23:02

LMAO we guessed there'd be an oracle

Thomas Thomasson pinned a message to this channel. 03-Apr-23 11:12 PM

Guess we're getting that ctc after all

well nice

23:35

hm

23:35

so what do we do now

23:35

i was gonna suggest checking for archivist fox and then if it isnt, we'll attack

23:35

but that doesnt work too well when we have 2 foxes

Jack Jackson

An Archivist Fox archived an Oracle. A Clairvoyant Fox checked a Cerberus. (edited)

check

mate

so @Participant any leads on who to check?

23:37

i assume ddd's public claim is fake but if its all we can go off of

hm

Wait i forgot what all of our actual roles are

oh yeah we have the risk of attacking fox

check pinned

Rabie.Sh0cks

Wait i forgot what all of our actual roles are

check pinned

yup

i'd say check for fox

23:37

check for cf

so i wanna check someone to be a fox

check for the more powerful fox

so its a matter of do we wanna risk hitting cf or af

Oh on

23:38

Ok

af is nice but id prefer keeping cf alive

cf is better imo yea

so ig check ddd (the only public claim) as cf?

sure

if he is, we have a cerberus known, if he isn't, ig we'll just attack anyways

Whats af and cf

i dont believe his runner claim at all

Rabie.Sh0cks

Whats af and cf

archivist and clairvoyant

archivist fox and clairvoyant fox

23:39

keep up, they've been announced to exist

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-Apr-23 11:39 PM

allright i'll check ddd

Rabie.Sh0cks

Whats af and cf

as fuck and cant fuck

ass fuck

okay ddd not cf