Werewolves Revamped - stowaway

@Navy Officer Alwin has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Chief Funner Bart @Navy Officer Alwin

I heard word of children on the ship

thats me, dont wear it out

First I want to congratulate you on your new job.

23:08

O do however want to point you to the child labour laws we have in order. So I must insist that you don't work too hard.

23:08

We can't have the government on our ass the moment we set a shore

Dont worry, I have a fake ID

By the way good sir. Right now we really need to vote out a "wolf" who goes by the icon of

. but it seems that their fellow wolves have all banded together to vote, and because they currently hold the most votes on

, people might start to bandwagon on the wrong person. Could you maybe try and vote soon to help us atleast tie the votes and prevent a bandwagon effect

I'll do my analysis of the crew in a few hours, after I will determine who deserves to live and die

alright. I do want to give some arguments for why you should vote with us. I have both been checked by and aura teller and another TI who i think would be best not to reveal their role, and I have also lead the lynch of krem who was revealed to be a scum. meanwhile the opposing side hasnt really done anything for town's benefit

17:24

and also because both of the lynch candidates are butchers, we know that one of them must be a wolf. but arch did help vote out a wolf yesterday, whilst invinci voted against it. so they also got that on their track record

You have some solid points, I do however want to point out that Arch has already successfully campaigned to get one of their fellow butchers lynched and is now trying to kill the other one, which doesn't look great.

19:20

Also we determined at the start that lynching butchers is statistically not a very sound idea, so I'm wondering why it seems that since then we are trying to kill two of them within three days

Navy Officer Alwin

You have some solid points, I do however want to point out that Arch has already successfully campaigned to get one of their fellow butchers lynched and is now trying to kill the other one, which doesn't look great.

Actually it was I who started the campaign against ddd, since he was acting (seemingly intentionally cuz its ddd) suspicious

My mistake

Navy Officer Alwin

Also we determined at the start that lynching butchers is statistically not a very sound idea, so I'm wondering why it seems that since then we are trying to kill two of them within three days

I am now the reporter, so i can see the role of the people who died. so regardless of which butcher is bb, after this lynch we can know for sure which ti is/was

19:49

And also we are fairly convinced that invincible is the evil butcher given all the aformentioned points

Chief Funner Bart

I am now the reporter, so i can see the role of the people who died. so regardless of which butcher is bb, after this lynch we can know for sure which ti is/was

This argument is: kill all butchers at "random" until the bloody one is dead

19:51

which I must say is not a great plan

Navy Officer Alwin

This argument is: kill all butchers at "random" until the bloody one is dead

random is not true

Educated guess then

Chief Funner Bart

alright. I do want to give some arguments for why you should vote with us. I have both been checked by and aura teller and another TI who i think would be best not to reveal their role, and I have also lead the lynch of krem who was revealed to be a scum. meanwhile the opposing side hasnt really done anything for town's benefit

refer to this and the message after as for why it is not random

19:52

Educated guesses are the best thing we can do, since there is only currently one revealed scum being marten

19:52

but we have to lynch 2

19:53

so unless you know a 100% confirmed bad guy, i dont know what option would be better

I agree that educated guesses is all we do, but you must understand that after your first charge at a butcher your credibility on wheter a butcher is trustworthy is not great

yes, but also, counterpoint: i also charged at krem, who did turn out to be a wolf. So i may have made one mistake, but i also got one of the bad guys

19:55

which is more than the opposition can say

True

19:56

But if you should at random enough times, one is bound to hit something good

that one wasnt random though

I expect a better accuracy from my soldiers than 50%

the TI revealed that person as a scum. problem is that they can only reveal one role per day

That does seem promising. But from my perspective, you are the only source for all of this

Navy Officer Alwin

I expect a better accuracy from my soldiers than 50%

So what will this mean for your vote? the only current options are the two butchers. Since they both already have alot of votes. The worst case scenario would be that we tie this vote, since then we would learn nothing, and we would waste a lynch, which is towns only consistant way of fighting the wolves

20:02

the only real options are an educated guess or an uneducated guess.

We have at least two killers in town, to your knowledge, can't they help us kill reliably?

20:04

A priest for instance could help a lot with reliable kills

Im pretty sure atleast one of them is a huntress

20:04

which doesnt help much in that department

True

as for the other one, i think you can assume by the lack of double kills at night that they havent stepped foreward yet

20:05

I really hope it is not someone like sonja who just doesnt play the game and only checks in to talk about frogs occasionally

You have to understand, that from my perspective there seems to be only one organized group

Chief Funner Bart

I really hope it is not someone like sonja who just doesnt play the game and only checks in to talk about frogs occasionally

I'm with you on that one

What about the group of dumm, invinci and swurtle who have been actively voting against the lynch where we tried to vote out a scum, but somehow all voted for the ddd who wasnt scum.

20:07

with swurtle even waiting till last second on losing votes to remove their vote so it isnt in the log

20:07

i think the dynamic here is pretty clear

20:08

And if we lynch invinci and the report says he is the bloody butcher, we can put the nail in that coffin

And if it says butcher, we will be wasting three lynches on killing all the butchers

If it says butcher, we will know that arch is a wolf, which would also instantly tell us that their accomplices are the wolves, in which case we would know who some of the wolves are

I'll be back after dinner

But once again, arch tried to get krem lynched, who was a wolf, while invinci tried to oppose it

20:10

so i am very confident arch is not the wolf

I see your points. I'll explain my perspective.

20:31

So I see two teams. First one is the one opposite to yours which includes dumm, invinci and swurtle. The other one is You, Arch, Fed and 8th. Your team had mayor, reporter and likely guardian, the other team has none of those

20:35

From my perspective your team seems to control almost everything which is scary to me as an outsider. I don't know if your team is town or scum and thus I'm unsure what to do

Of both the teams, I am the only one who has publically claimed a role that is confirmable. Wolves wouldnt dare do that, which is evidenced by the fact that none of them have done it

With tanner isn't every role confirmable?

No, my role is different

20:50

I am the child, so when I die, it will get announced in story time that the child has died

20:51

Tanner can disguise roles against investigative abilities

So you are saying that your role can be confirmed when you die?

yeah

20:53

Man, I dont know what more to tell you, ive told you like 15 arguments in favour of our side while the other guys dont have anything. What more do you want from me

I'd like to be 100% sure, but that won't happen ofc. Besides that I just want as much info about everything

20:55

I have barely a clue of what anyone is and whom to trust

I guess it is up to your judgement in the end.

If someone approached me and told me who I am, I know they either had wager or are likely TI, but since that hasn't happened, no one trusts me with usefull info and I just have to guess based on the bickering in #main_deck and some arguments based on trust