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Pyromancer

Pyros

Pyromancer

You are part of the Pyro team. You win when all remaining alive players are part of the Pyro team or Unaligned.

19:15

19:15

realsad

19:18

Also hi tutle

19:18

Quick question, what role did you sent in

And what are you

Right, I’m firebug

Hi

22:19

I sent nothing.

22:19

And I am Pyromancer.

22:19

What did you send?

Juror

22:27

But seeing how we have butchers, that didn’t get used

22:28

Warding a butcher probably doesn’t have any use, we probably won’t attack them

22:29

Should we ask in gm chat and hello for their roles?

Eh I’ll just ask, it’s different than asking their roles

Btw turtle, can you send who you will powder so we don’t do the same one?

23:05

Delaying krem powder for now

Okaz

09:23

Sorry, I'm kinda busy until tonight.

Firebug [Solo Killing - Pyro Team]

Limited Role

Basics

Each night, the Firebug may either powder one player or ward one player.

Details

When the Firebug wards a player, that player is protected from attacks for the night. Should anyone other than a member of the pyro team try to attack the warded player, the attack backfires, igniting the attacker as well as all powdered players. This is considered an attack executed by the Firebug. Powdering and warding are immediate abilities. Instead of powdering the Firebug may also unpowder. The Firebug is a member of the pyro team and channel. The Pyros win when they're the last ones alive. When the last original Pyromancer dies, the Firebug turns into a Pyromancer

A Krem powder is good. Warding is more useful later in game.

09:24

I think asking for submitted roles is fair, just don't push for it.

Alive Players | Total: 22

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino)

- huckhuck55 (@Musician Hughes)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- the kremblin (@Navigator Kerokero)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- ddd8000 (@Head Chef Damien) ▪️ - Ethan. (@Powder Monkey Nathaniel)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart)

- SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella)

- Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar)

- Raven1207.2 (@Lookout Ramona) (edited)

I'll powder someone who is unlikely to die?

⏺️ Randomizing out of:

,

,

,

,

09:26

▶️ Selected @Navy Soldier Linebeck (

) (edited)

Dummo?

Don’t really know them

09:27

So go for it ig

I feel like they're found out quickly if they're scum, but if they're town they are probably not the first to get night-killed, so they may be alive.

Werewolves Bot B

⏺️ Randomizing out of:

,

,

,

,

I think this is a good list of like 'passive players', i.e. players who will not necessarily die that fast. So it's always beneficial to go for them, whilst the others die.

09:31

Town [10] Town Killing [2] Town Investigative [1] Butcher [2] - Invinci, ddd and ???? Other Town [5] Wolves [7] Bloody Butcher [1] Other Wolf [6] Solo [5] Firebug [1] - Marten Pyromancer [1] - Turtle Flute Charmer [1] Other Solo [2]

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 02-May-23 09:31 AM

Anyways, I gotta go again. We need to start thinking of fake-claims. Witch would've been a good claim for you, because you can protect, but since you can't attack and I cannot either, it'd be kind of hard to fake (unless we like purposefully ignite).

yea but then more people would die

Powdered Players | Total: 22

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino) ~~- huckhuck55 (@Musician Hughes)~~

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- the kremblin (@Navigator Kerokero)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- ddd8000 (@Head Chef Damien) ~~▪️ - Ethan. (@Powder Monkey Nathaniel)~~

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Quack Doctor Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) Orb

Orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart) - SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella) - Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar) ~~- Raven1207.2 (@Lookout Ramona)~~ ~~Dead~~ Powdered (edited)

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11:28

Powder Timeline N1: ‣ Turtle: Im_dumm0 ‣ Marten: Kremblin N2: ‣ Turtle: SunnySideUp ‣ Marten: Matmeistrrss N2: ‣ Turtle: Raven ‣ Marten: Alwin (edited)

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11:29

Enchant Timeline N1: ‣ Snivy ‣ Nick N2: ‣ Bart ‣ SunnySideUp N3: ‣ Alwin ‣ invincitank (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 02-May-23 11:29 AM

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 02-May-23 11:30 AM

Actions list D0 None N1 Werevoles killed huck D1 Arch Mayor N2 2 lynches Werewolves (?) killed Ethan (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 02-May-23 11:33 AM

right, however nice it would be, we probably dont have another wisp in our team and most likely a flute and a www

Okay fed is either a wolf invest or flute charmer

Cool I’ve taken amnesiac for now

Can you recap for me real quick? I'm kind of busy today; after tomorrow it should be cleared up.

16:34

This isn't looking good.

First Mate Martesino

Okay fed is either a wolf invest or flute charmer

I'm sorry.

Yea no worries

17:09

Even if I die I will give you my rolelist

17:09

Hopefully you can do something with it

17:10

Don’t know how correct it is since it wholly based on fed’s claim and barts child claim

17:12

Plus how to make a rolelist from when I hosted

17:13

is that a kind of meta?

Bart is asking for me to ward him thonk

thonk

17:53

Saying wolves are probaly going to eat him tonight

Lol?

Ig I will say that I’m insomniac

❗ Could not find role insomniac.

Wait

18:19

Wmnesicia

18:19

Amnesiac

18:20

A real sneaky way to add extra invest/roles smh

i kinda wonder if bart is part of flute team

18:53

that or he knows me too well and sees through my attempt on the main_deck

18:53

he seems to be really sure that im firebug

Why don't you believe it could be Devil btw?

Not really tbh

19:39

Wolves seem kinda big so there’s probaly a packless and a www to keep them on edge

19:39

Ig you might be able to see it with how many kills there are

19:39

Packless is most likely a warlock is fed is one

19:40

Lone wolf, unless played by someone who knows not to kill, would shown itself

19:40

Wait let me send my most likely list

19:41

*Guess*
__Confirmed__

**Town [10]**

Town Killing [2]
  ‣ most likely 2 of *witch assassin priest exe (barber)*
Town Investigative [1]
  ‣ *Crowdseeker / Fortune Teller*
Town Group [2]
  ‣ __Butcher [2]__ [ddd, arch, invinci]
Other Town [5]
  ‣ 5 OF THE FOLLOWING 
  ‣ *Innkeeper*
  ‣ *Coroner *
  ‣ *Town crier*
  ‣ *macho *
  ‣ *Runner*
  ‣ *Child [Confirmed?] + Executioner?*
  ‣ *exorcist*
  ‣ *Citizen*

**Wolves [7]**

Wolf Group [1]
  ‣ __Bloody Butcher [1]__ [ddd, arch, invinci]
Other Wolf [6]
  ‣ *Warlock*
  ‣ *Wolf cub*
  ‣ *Sacred Wolf*
  ‣ *wolf or sneaking wolf if theres 1+ citizen*
  ‣ *wolf or knowledge wolf*
  ‣ *wolf*
  ‣ *tanner*

**Solo [5]**
**Pyro**
  ‣ __Firebug__ [1] - Marten
  ‣ __Pyromancer[1]__ - turtle

**Flute**
  ‣ __Flute Charmer__ [1]
  ‣ __Flute Player__ [1]

Solo Other: 1
  ‣ *WWW (alternative is wisp but unlikely)*

(edited)

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19:42

Ig you could ignite to confirm wisp vs other solo but not worth it I think (edited)

19:44

I could send reasonings for why but atm it’s 300+ messages of me stress rambling and trying to see reason in the list

19:44

Could make a summary if you want

19:46

I might just make one so that it is a bit more grounded

If there's WWW I imagine AW is also likely.

20:37

Thanks for sharing btw.

First Mate Martesino

Could make a summary if you want

If you want, no pressure tho.

Hm yea

20:41

Prabbky a wolf less

i got added to a chat called interrogation with @Boatswain Tetra, @Navy Soldier Linebeck, @Quartermaster of the Blue Seas and its all donut talk...

21:51

seems they think im devil

21:53

okay so, town and wolf group is obvious cuz claims We are pyro team Flute charmer without flute player is useless WWW because while wisp would be nice, its unlikely for us and wolves need something to keep them busy otherwise its already quite close

21:54

now the weird bits if fed is invest, flute charmer would make sense but ww invest as well

21:56

wait, one moment

21:56

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22:00

TK: 2 of [Assassin, Barber, Cult Leader, Executioner, Huntress, Mad Scientist, Priest, Witch] Cult leader obvious no due to being town group mad scientis would be fun but doesnt feel like this is the palce next is the fact that it is quite a big game so at least 1 role that can kill multiple times [Assassin/priest] 2 of them would be overkill so another role with 1 kill and maybe another abilty [witch, esecutioner, barber] barber sounds a bit eh due to them most lilely dying fast so not that big of impact rest are plausbile (edited)

22:03

TI: 1 of [Aura Teller, Crowd Seeker, Fortune Teller, Huntsman, Oracle] Huntsman feels off due to only being to find pack so with 1 town would be nerfed, same with orcale and AT but due to flute team and other disguises, so either Crowd Seeker or Fortune Teller either are possible

22:10

TG: Claims so buthers

22:11

Other Town: there are so many of them but most feel kinda useless/kinda rude to give to people, like alcoholic when theres no bartender (or at least they havent talked which seems unlikely)

22:11

in the end i made these

22:11

‣ exorcist would fit -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ fletcher would be a sneaky way to add an extra tk (assuming they choose the right target so maybe not) -> maybe

maybe

‣ grandma would fit ig -> maybe

maybe

‣ herald would be weird in partial, handy for bb check ->

‣ hooker

(too risky with pyro?) -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ medium.... ig? maybe late game but early game no-> maybe

maybe

‣ Royal Knight could be fun, though "useless" if exe is there -> maybe

maybe

‣ Stalker ehh maybe open list when you can better target?? -> maybe

maybe

‣ amnesiac, but what would then be afterwards, does amnesiac even make sense when the roles arent even known? ->

‣ Assistant, if fed hinted towards this by saying ds' assistant im gonna scream -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ Bard: Raven sent it in so maybe? -> maybe

maybe

‣ Bartender: Havent heard from them so unlikely but then again they might be hiding -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ Child, you know what, with either RK or EXE this could be interesting -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ Citizen, theres got to be one right? Right? Maybe not -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ Cursed Civilian would be weird with jays message about role change ->

‣ Devout Villager unlikely if there are so few possible infecting roles ->

‣ Fortune Apprentice ig, could be handy with 1 TI -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ idiot, has it ever been used? then again offseason ->

‣ Journalist, could be but difficult with targeting -> maybe

maybe

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22:11

‣ macho

as a pyro if its really in there -> yes

yes

yes

maybe

‣ Ranger ehhh another landmine and could ruin either team -> maybe

maybe

‣ Runner when in doubt -> yes

yes

yes

maybe

‣ Town crier would be useful and fitting in partial -> yes

yes

maybe

‣ Trickster... maybe with exe? would be weird if stalker -> maybe

maybe

‣ Coroner can be useful for checking TK claims but not much more next to finding out which roles there are ‣ Innkeeper basically better herald and i guess it could be useful in checking for certain roles without giving everything away

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22:12

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22:12

from this i found the ones mentioned most likely due to how they fit into the game, though some of them only are added due to synergies

22:13

like exe and child, town could push for 1 wolf and a town and then lynch the exe as town to take another wolf

22:14

macho we should be most worried about due to it giving us await as the attacker

22:14

also does that when i ward, they get attacked, and if the macho dies due to ignite it also shows me

22:15

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22:16

WWW: as menitoned above but also

fed only told this morning but that could be due to wanting to protect himself but then again letting other town know that devil is there could help them a lot so not really towny
if he was not wagered
then he needs to be either town invest (but why would town invest do this risky play), Flute charmer (meaning i show up as flute player / flute team), or pshychic wolf/warlock
pshychic wolf sounds weird to go into the open like that, but could be another member of the pack so who knows, warlock would be more interesitng since this would also be a way to connect with them, same for fox
one less in the pack would mean that there is a chance for www to go unnoticed, which would fit perfectly in this game, especially when its a warlock whose results dont get send to the pack
so most likely www
hoenstly another pyro team could be but that might be too strong? i honestly dont really remember playing with pyro but a 3p solo team sounds kinda string
same for flute

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22:16

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22:16

WG: bloody buther due to butcher claim

22:20

Other Werewolves: quite a lot of different options but most clash with has happened ‣ Warlock Due to fed ‣ Wolf cub due to bart being child so there needs to be some kind of balance i think, also could help WWW very maybe? ‣ Sacred Wolf -> basic defense against town killing ‣ wolf or sneaking wolf if theres 1+ citizen Not many games dont have citizen so its likely and if there is one sneaking wolf would be a nice disguise, especially with innkeeper who can see the amount of people with a role -> also why i added innkeeper due to the disguises ‣ wolf or knowledge wolf -> KW due to it being partial but maybe depends on how much the hosts want to give to them ‣ wolf -> basic wolf ‣ tanner -> due to the rule change

22:22

alpha wolf, as you mentioned could also very well be possible and was something i didnt consider due to it being quite useless in most scenarios

22:22

do note that the ww other list has more than the amount of roles actually in the game

First Mate Martesino

TK: 2 of [Assassin, Barber, Cult Leader, Executioner, Huntress, Mad Scientist, Priest, Witch] Cult leader obvious no due to being town group mad scientis would be fun but doesnt feel like this is the palce next is the fact that it is quite a big game so at least 1 role that can kill multiple times [Assassin/priest] 2 of them would be overkill so another role with 1 kill and maybe another abilty [witch, esecutioner, barber] barber sounds a bit eh due to them most lilely dying fast so not that big of impact rest are plausbile (edited)

barber would unite part of town but only 1 kill and would die soon after most likely, so debatable huntress classic but cant choose to kill unless they bait so while possible doesnt seem like a good 1 out of 2 tk since town would lose a towny and possible another innocent due to misreads same with exe i guess though more control and interesting with child, could also be a town action as bait exe > hun witch... idk would need a player with good grasp of the entire game so while very possible priest, very good wolf killing role but not very good everything else killing role, could be used as extra TI if they dare to randomly water people due to solos not being affected so perhaps? feels dangerous to add since they could be killed early due to themselveson and unbalance everything

22:31

hmm anything ive missed?

First Mate Martesino

i got added to a chat called interrogation with @Boatswain Tetra, @Navy Soldier Linebeck, @Quartermaster of the Blue Seas and its all donut talk...

Im_dumm0 and phantom didnt seem to like being added when the cc was created saying "Bruh" (dumm0) and "Ugh snivy, I didn’t give consent" then it escalated into american football and donuts, they got removed and then snivy asked me about bing devil

Okay, thanks for all of that.

22:39

I'll read through it more thoroughly tomorrow.

22:39

if i die, good luck man

22:39

make the best blaze possible

You better not

you're carrying right now

in before my entire list is wrong lmao

22:41

its all based on bart and feds shenanigans lol

22:41

and role/rolelist building knowledge

I hope I'm not going too hard in defending you.

maybe yea

22:48

just dont make yourself too sus

22:48

if i die, i die and we still have a pyro living

22:48

will be difficult with 1 powder but who knows

22:49

with www and flute they might have other more important concerns if nothing happens for a while

If Fed is wolf, so is Alwin.

22:52

Or Alwin is Devil, if one exists.

hm maybe

22:56

i also dont know what to think of ethan, might be to shield fed a bit

Ethan feels like Wisp, but I genuinely doubt it exists.

22:56

I don't know why Ethan is hard-defending you.

22:56

Why to shield Fed?

feels a bit like hes taking away some heat from him and making the discussing more about me but that might be me misinterpreting

22:57

if ethan was wisp, he wouldve most likely cc'd me

True.

22:58

I mean, Ethan literally started a motion to tie Fed with you, so I don't know if he's necessarily shielding him.

22:58

They don't seem aligned.

22:58

Ethan seems towny.

hm

22:58

ig ill see on the other side

though, its 6-5 so who knows

It's so close.

bart did say he wanted me to ward him so he could switch

But anymore defending of you and I'll be tonight's check

hm

23:00

that was it

23:00

good luck

23:00

that was a short return of me

23:00

guess ill lurk in the gm channels again :)

Play next game!

eh

I can't believe Fed did this to you

stress messaging 300+ messages in 24h about finding the rolelist wasnt that fun of an experience ngl

23:01

if he targeted me without reason im gonna be dissapotioned

23:02

same with random cuz thats some really shitty luck

First Mate Martesino

stress messaging 300+ messages in 24h about finding the rolelist wasnt that fun of an experience ngl

It's like that when you start taking the game too seriously, it happens to me too.

every time

First Mate Martesino

same with random cuz thats some really shitty luck

It really is.

23:04

I guess I can try to fake Coroner.

oh that might actially work

23:04

i was a bit sketchy for its usefulness but its on the edge

23:04

still gets to know roles, though a bit late (edited)

Yeah, I just need to make up specific Wolf roles if that's how it works? Or is it just wolfpack

oh its tied now

23:05

idk if its going to be counted

23:05

No-one has to know

23:05

It's the Hosts own fault for missing phase change.

23:08

If Arch votes it's gg

23:08

Thank God

23:08

You're alive.

23:08

we will see what host do

Now you need to make up good Amne results

yea

23:42

ig

23:42

should i ward myself?

23:42

lol

23:43

or just powder

23:44

lmk and who and ill do it

23:44

im done for today

23:48

Do ping please

oh shit my bad

23:49

wait no this isn't pyro channel

23:49

I already did that

23:49

ignore me

Hmm warding Ethan might be interesting but I don’t think it is worth it to risk hitting the macho

Signed Up Players | Total: 22

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino)

- huckhuck55 (@Musician Hughes)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- the kremblin (@Navigator Kerokero)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- ddd8000 (@Head Chef Damien) ▪️ - Ethan. (@Powder Monkey Nathaniel)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart)

- SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella)

- Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar)

- Raven1207.2 (@Lookout Ramona) (edited)

Mat seems kinda quiet so I’ll delay powder her

01:34

Sent the message

01:34

Might not be there for phase change

01:38

Possible actions this night which we can check to an extent: -ww kill -www kill -assassin kill -exorcist (edited)

01:39

Actually exorcist is day

Congrats on life

Seems my ship hasn’t sailed just yet

Nah the pirate ship is currently sailing

02:04

According to story time

Almost wasn’t my ship anymore so maybe halfcounts

02:07

Also how is 2am already

02:07

Yea no way I’ll be awake for phase change unless I wake up before it by chance

First Mate Martesino

Mat seems kinda quiet so I’ll delay powder her

*

First Mate Martesino

should i ward myself?

Hmm, I don't know.

07:06

I think powdering maybe.

07:06

Yeah, go with Mat.

07:07

Arch thinks your claim is sus.

07:11

I'll powder SunnySideUp

I don't think anyone would attack you knowing your Firebug, but like honestly you never know in this game.

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-May-23 07:29 AM

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If I fake Coroner I'm going with AW.

07:32

To hint at WWW and shine suspicion on Fed.

Presumably wolves killed Ethan

11:54

Now the question is, was Ethan a child or did mayor make 2 lynches

11:54

If mayor then arch sus

11:54

Unless they plan to do the exe thing I mentioned

11:55

Don’t know how they found exe in that case since it doesn’t sound like a role you would claim

11:59

Oke nvm

11:59

Reasonable enough

Hey turtle, for amnesiac, what do you think would be good roles

13:18

I was thinking maybe journalist

13:19

Citizen is always good

13:19

Exorcist?

13:20

And then just citizen as what I became

13:20

Exorcist seems like a weird role to get

13:20

Might also be too extra when the rest is considered

Yeah, but Cit will put pressure on you.

13:55

Because you'll be seen as 'not useful'. If you claim a role with more of an ability, it's risky but you can explain your reluctance to claim and it's high-reward if you manage it. But also something to like bait a kill? You're Firebug after all. But I understand if you want to go for Cit.

Hm

14:01

Would be interesting to go for cit and then claim sneaking wolf probably is in the list

14:01

They wouldn’t put no citizen right?

14:02

Would help against a potential receptionist

14:03

Innkeeper *

14:03

But jorhbslidt might be better

14:03

Journalist

14:05

Actually

14:05

Innkeeper is affected by disguises so if we play the fed disguised me as fp that could work

14:07

Yea I’ll go journalist

Stowaway Tortello

I guess I can try to fake Coroner.

This your fakeclaim you are using?

14:14

Fake Claims Marten: Amnesiac -> Journalist {citizen, runner} [butcher target] Turtle: Coroner (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-May-23 02:14 PM

Interesting runner

14:37

I’ll cc them and ask if they have any info they want in journal

Thank god I didn’t choose runner lol

14:57

Swurtle - Mat claim runner

14:57

Ddd claims andar bb

Slap me if I’m wrong but crowdseeker most likely since FC and FT are so close to each other that you guys might’ve thought it to be mean for town also cs more checks per night and with only 1 ti

Would be so easy to fake or town would not trust FT under any circumstance

Me rambling over what happened in town square, think of it what you think but I find it to be at least logical

17:09

Would be fun to add oil to the fire by saying publicly to not trust any fortune tellers but that’d be rude for hosts maybe

17:11

Lmk if I should do it turtle

17:11

I’m as good as dead with how they are talking about my claims

17:11

A fun game of is it true what the baddy says

17:11

Can we trust it

@Participant Dumm claimed citizen, probably true (edited)

17:20

Sneaking seems more likely then as well with the rule change

17:20

I should ward myslef tonight if I survive lynch

17:21

Wouldn’t suprise me if they go for me

17:21

Be it ww or town

First Mate Martesino

This your fakeclaim you are using?

Yeah, albeit no-one has come in contact with me, really.

18:26

The only set-back is Wolves will know I'm faking once I claim stuff like 'Alpha Wolf killed x', which will make me susceptible to attacks. That is the price I've got to pay.

First Mate Martesino

Slap me if I’m wrong but crowdseeker most likely since FC and FT are so close to each other that you guys might’ve thought it to be mean for town also cs more checks per night and with only 1 ti

Would be so easy to fake or town would not trust FT under any circumstance

Me rambling over what happened in town square, think of it what you think but I find it to be at least logical

BUT, Krem can't be caught by CS?

18:39

Unless you're implaying that Arch's TI is lying?

18:40

If we follow your FC-FT logic, then I'd almost say AT.

Yea re reading the ping wolf allignment might point towards at

18:41

Thought it just said wolf

18:42

At seems kinda shitty to have as only TI though with flute player disguises as well

18:42

And what about if krem was a town killing role

18:43

Would be the only way to find wolves but to have only huntsman…

HM is useless with 5 Solos, FT-FC no, and CS wouldn't catch scum? Unless Krem claimed to someone, but like I don't think so. The only thing AT is susceptible to is FP, however since enchants are known publicly, Exorcist can combat them? That leaves Oracle maybe. Maybe Oracle checked themselves-Krem? Because Oracle also has to do with 'alignment'.

First Mate Martesino

And what about if krem was a town killing role

They'd claim it imo unless they're exe.

18:43

Because they're under pressure right now.

Idk

18:44

Still don’t understand the claiming to a butcher part

18:44

Unless they checked them n1 but they checked Bart in that time

Stowaway Tortello

Unless you're implaying that Arch's TI is lying?

This was what I was thinking but honestly both ddd and arch seem wack

ddd claiming after being put up for lynch is also like

First Mate Martesino

Would be fun to add oil to the fire by saying publicly to not trust any fortune tellers but that’d be rude for hosts maybe

It’s why I kinda wanted to say this since there most likely are 2 very similair roles non-town so a fortune tellers seems like a bad fit in the list

18:48

And at seems too underwhelming with regards the amount of info it gives

Alpha feels Wolf.

So I though cs is a sweet spot between amount of info and uniqueness

18:49

Kinda yea

First Mate Martesino

It’s why I kinda wanted to say this since there most likely are 2 very similair roles non-town so a fortune tellers seems like a bad fit in the list

True.

Especially that wolves didn’t use wager last game sounds like they are trying to make something feel right

18:50

Ig we can put alpha on a probably wolf list somewhere (edited)

18:51

Right back to krem, I feel like arch’s TI is lying because there’s no way for CS to find out Bart unless it’s a very lucky guess, especially since child wasn’t unlucky known, so the probably either flute or wolves and probs wolves since fed sounds like flute (edited)

18:52

And knowledge wolf being a thing, even if we missed warlock and it’s a psychic wolf they have a better chance

18:52

Unless Bart claimed child to a random person which feels off

First Mate Martesino

Especially that wolves didn’t use wager last game sounds like they are trying to make something feel right

Yes, most of their presence feels like trying to cast doubt -> 'oh, but WWW would be too strong', 'Wolves didn't use wager last game', 'we should probs only lynch 1 player' etc etc.

“2 lynches since we missed the previous one”

First Mate Martesino

Right back to krem, I feel like arch’s TI is lying because there’s no way for CS to find out Bart unless it’s a very lucky guess, especially since child wasn’t unlucky known, so the probably either flute or wolves and probs wolves since fed sounds like flute (edited)

It isn't specific whether Bart was N1 or N2?

Though fair enough, it’s 2 polls now so that helps

First Mate Martesino

“2 lynches since we missed the previous one”

First Mate Martesino

And knowledge wolf being a thing, even if we missed warlock and it’s a psychic wolf they have a better chance

Hmm, good point.

18:55

But what about it being Oracle?

Bart claimed child d1

18:55

And he said TI got to them before his claim so its got to be before

18:55

Unless its fake

Ah.

18:55

That's true.

Wait

Idk if it points to Arch TI -> fake more than Arch TI -> non-CS?

I mismatched oracle and medium

18:56

Huhh

18:56

Hm

18:56

Thought oracle was medium

Wait, actually, Oracle is wack with FC.

18:56

Because FC wouldn't have an effect.

18:57

Unless it's trying to mislead.

Hm yea

18:57

I don’t get the rule change if it were oracle then tho

18:57

Unless host want to make us feel that

What rule change

That weak disguises are like strong ones

Oh I'm blind

18:58

I only saw the 'be nice to Hosts'.

Lmao

18:58

A good rule change

Well, then it has to be either AT or

18:58

Nah, that's kinda meta but like that points at AT.

Stowaway Tortello

I only saw the 'be nice to Hosts'.

Syntax error. Unknown command fc!

18:59

Flute Charmer [Solo Investigative - Flute Team]

Limited Role

Basics

The Flute Charmer is a flute player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they have the ability to charm one player each day, learning their role and disguising them as flute player. The Flute Charmer becomes a flute player if none remain.

Details

During the day, the Flute Charmer may charm a player, the charmed player is not informed about this. This action is immediate. Successfully charming a player will tell the Flute Charmer their targets role. This result is affected by strong disguises, redirections, and obstructions. Charmed players are weakly disguised as flute player. This effect will disappear once no members of the Flute Player channel or team remain. The players are not told when the effect disappears. When a player is both charmed and enchanted, the charmed status is removed. The Flute Charmer can target themself or other members of the flute team. If no flute players remain, the Flute Charmer turns into a flute player and loses their current powers.

If strong = weak then AT being the only strong, it kinda hints at it, right?

18:59

Because why rule change if CS is already susceptible to it

Mean could also be for fc

19:00

Seeing it is a new role

19:00

At least I believe

19:00

Yea

Ah

19:00

Hmm, true.

This thing keeps feeling stranger and stranger ngl

But why buff the FC.

Because poor flute lol

Ah, it would make sense with Tanner.

Yea and flute disguise from bot fc and fp

Hmm, true.

Yea they are weak

With so many disguises it's hard to trust any of the TIs.

Yea

I'm also going to be quiet in #main_deck because before I said "I'm not sold on ddd" and Arch suggested you, lol.

Www 1/n from FC 2/n from enchanting 2/d from tanner Fox?

ALSO, we should try to get Wolves powdered, just in case Arch is Wolf and is Town has already lost... Just so we can hurt them in case they are to powerful.

19:03

I'd suggest at least Alpha

Wouldnt suprise me if Bart was cub btw, then wolves would’ve basically won

19:04

Only weird thing is him asking me to ward him since he doesn’t want to die

19:04

But Bart is smart enough to do that

I don't hope that that would be the case.

19:04

Then the rl would be kinda unbalanced

19:04

This is why there must be WWW.

19:04

And no Devil.

Ikr

Fed is Wolf.

19:04

Fed & Alpha Wolf imo.

That’s what I’ve been giving to town square

And then either ddd/Arch

Yea or fed warlock/fc

If ddd then also Krem

Such a fed action ngl

If Arch then also Bart

We should make a list

I can

19:05

2 sec

yea Please

Reads & Role List Town [10] 2x Butcher - Invinci (probably); either ddd/Arch 1x TI - ? (either in contact w/ Arch + Bart or ddd) 2x TK - Sunny (Exe) 1x Child - Bart (if Arch Butcher) 2x Runner - Mat & Swurtle 1x Cit - Dumm0 3x Unknown - Huck (unless FP/packless); Ethan (unless FP/packless); Nick??? Wolves [7] 1x Bloody Butcher - either ddd/Arch 6x Unknown - Fed (WI?); Alpha (ScW/SnW/SacW?); Bart (WC, only if Arch BB) or Krem (only if ddd BB); Phantom?; Alwin? Pyros [2] 1x Pyromancer - Turtle 1x Firebug - Marten Flute Player [2] 1x Flute Charmer - NOT: Snivy/Nick/Sunny/Bart 1x Flute Player - NOT: Snivy/Nick/Sunny/Bart WWW [1] 1x Unknown - ? (edited)

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Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 03-May-23 07:16 PM

How does that look?

Looks good

A lot of them are just reads.

Good enough for now as pyro team ig

Yeah, no invest.

Pyro invest would be nice but not fitting

19:30

Expect in the context of doing an investigation on how to burn a specific house down

Ah, you mean in the flavor.

19:30

Ah yes, the PI can see the arson-susceptibility of someone's house.

very interesting

21:25

raven claims to know AT

21:25

idk how to feel about it

21:25

right

21:25

turtle, sunny claimed exe to me

Bart's message confirms that "his" TI isn't AT.

21:25

Feels legit. We have them powdered.

idk why she did it

21:25

well wouldnt it be such a shame if we ignite tonight

21:26

though wolves would probably win

Yeah, let's wait.

21:27

It's probably most logical to ignite later.

Stowaway Tortello

Bart's message confirms that "his" TI isn't AT.

There cant be a aura teller cuz there is only one TI in this game

welllll

21:44

okay my list was based on the fact that i thought that if the roloust already mentioned TK:2 that there wouldnt be any more TK

Well, I doubt there are any more TK.

yea

22:05

but ugh

22:06

then what did i spend like 3 hours for trying to figure out the list when i was stressed

22:07

might be gone for a while trying to get over this

what to do

Is everyone on Bart Wolf?

23:24

I'd powder someone

23:24

If Wolves are Arch and stuff

23:25

Then we need to start powdering.

23:25

But eh.

23:25

I don't know why I'm getting to caught up in who's Town and who's not

23:26

Also exorcist if they exist would've exorcised an enchanted person but they haven't, so maybe no Exorcist??

23:26

If we powder today we're at 6 powders.

23:26

Are our powders alive?

23:26

Welp, Krem is dead.

23:27

5 powders at best. + us 2.

Alive Players | Total: 18

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart)

- SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella)

- Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar)

- Raven1207.2 (@Lookout Ramona) (edited)

7/18.

23:27

Dunno how we're winning this game.

23:27

I hope TK does something.

yea...

23:29

.exeorcist

❗ Could not find role exeorcist. Did you mean exorcist?

hmm only 1 player per night so ig its possible but yes

Stowaway Tortello

Also exorcist if they exist would've exorcised an enchanted person but they haven't, so maybe no Exorcist??

yea enchant and powder combined its more unliekylh

23:35

ig we can be sure that Madamabaab is wolf

23:37

The8thSoul as well

Maybe not 8thsoul

23:58

I’ll powder alwin

Why Madamabaab

09:05

Oh, wager.

09:05

I'll honestly just roll whoever is unlikely to die.

I'm doing Raven.

Ah rip

Bruh

11:53

Arch is Wolf, ddd and Raven's TI must be real, else they wouldn't be dead.

Hm

11:57

Assuming there are only 2 TK, and sunny really is exe, assassin now sounds most likely

11:58

No way to kill solos otherwise (edited)

11:58

Bart probaly is wolfs cub ig

But like

12:01

why have they not killed

12:01

Maybe it was Huck

12:01

If this game is actually just Wolves dominating, Town has played poorly.

First Mate Martesino

Powder Timeline N1: ‣ Turtle: Im_dumm0 ‣ Marten: Kremblin N2: ‣ Turtle: SunnySideUp ‣ Marten: Matmeistrrss N2: ‣ Turtle: Raven ‣ Marten: Alwin (edited)

Can you update?

Stowaway Tortello

Maybe it was Huck

That would suck so bad

Arch is definitely going to push for your lynch.

12:02

If this game doesn't have WWW I'll actually cry.

12:02

WWW holstered N2 and I'm so confused as to why

No way it doesn’t have www

Or they don't exist.

Why wouldn’t www attack yea

Newer WWW?

12:03

Maybe WWW was found out quickly.

Wait there’s a newer?

12:03

Oh wait that way

12:03

Nvm

12:03

Maybe

12:04

That would also suck and ruin the entire games balance

12:04

Who were enchanted tonight btw?

First Mate Martesino

Wait there’s a newer?

I mean newer player.

Yea

First Mate Martesino

Who were enchanted tonight btw?

You already have them, Invinci and Alwin.

12:05

I think.

Wait I already updated it lol

12:05

Yea

Alive Players | Total: 17

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart)

- SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella)

- Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar) (edited)

Ugh, this game is so skewed.

12:06

Arch is waiting until as late as possible to announce the lynch so we can have less discussion/defence time.

For sure

They'll probably suggest you + someone else (me, maybe?)

Bart wont give reporter info so either trusted toen or wolf and wolf as said more likely now

12:06

Should’ve ignited lol

There is no trusted?? Unless Arch, Bart and that TI somehow made one.

Unlikely but possible

People probs claimed to Arch and now Arch knows who to kill.

Yea :/

Invinci is the safest player, and yet nobody is pushing for him.

So wolf then probaly

12:08

It is that sunny claimed exe else ww

The people who voted Dummo yesterday are probably the towniest.

12:09

Wolves wouldn't vote someone else with 3 people.

12:09

Sunny may be legit, but like, if they've claimed they're just getting NKed.

Hm ye

12:10

Hasn’t happened tonight so might be only me

Could be, in that case we could push for their lynch, confirmation (and get them to yeet Arch? lol).

They would be amazing

12:10

That

12:11

Would ruin our reputation if it came out and make us big targets

If we both survive today, one of us powders Arch and the other ignites imo. We need Wolves in shambles. They'll still have Bart and Fed, though, ugh :/

1

Yea…

Yeah.

Stowaway Tortello

If we both survive today, one of us powders Arch and the other ignites imo. We need Wolves in shambles. They'll still have Bart and Fed, though, ugh :/

Sounds good

Werewolves Bot B pinned a message to this channel. 04-May-23 12:11 PM

Ignite no matter what I would say

Now I'm looking at the list of powdered players and they all look like Town atp :/

Oh rip

12:12

That kinda sucks

12:12

At least we have a killcount then

Alwin, scum, sure. Raven/Krem dead. Dumm0? Maybe Wolf, kinda Town tho. Mat and Sunny may be town?

Wolves probably would’ve won either eay

12:13

Yea mat sounds like toen

But yeah, we should do something and hope that it sticks.

12:14

If we wait we'll just get lynched and NKed immediately :/

12:14

Let's hope we're not both chosen for double lynch.

I could always play the exe card ig

12:14

Just make it a bit obvious I’m baiting lynch

12:15

https://discord.com/channels/584765921332297775/1102644159640252436/1103437740961448036

12:15

Already tried that yesterday

12:15

Make it sus that I want to be lynched

Exe isn't that strong because Exe would kinda want to be lynched but you never know.

Yea I’m kinda hoping they see it as being a little too happy with a potential lynch

12:18

Oh right, no barber probaly, they would’ve attacked by now

12:19

Right?

12:19

Else it would be too late

Yeah.

Tsk it’s so obvious wolves are doing things

15:39

Anyway good that you survive

15:40

@Stowaway Tortello should I pull exe card by saying I’ll take arch with me and not elaborating?

I don't think they'll buy it realsad

realsad

but if that's the only option. Maybe we can swing it back to Arch

15:51

Maybe Invinci is actually scum but like

Flute Charmer [Solo Investigative - Flute Team]

Limited Role

Basics

The Flute Charmer is a flute player that can’t enchant other players; instead, they have the ability to charm one player each day, learning their role and disguising them as flute player. The Flute Charmer becomes a flute player if none remain.

Details

During the day, the Flute Charmer may charm a player, the charmed player is not informed about this. This action is immediate. Successfully charming a player will tell the Flute Charmer their targets role. This result is affected by strong disguises, redirections, and obstructions. Charmed players are weakly disguised as flute player. This effect will disappear once no members of the Flute Player channel or team remain. The players are not told when the effect disappears. When a player is both charmed and enchanted, the charmed status is removed. The Flute Charmer can target themself or other members of the flute team. If no flute players remain, the Flute Charmer turns into a flute player and loses their current powers.

Idrc if Arch is scum or not, it's better if they're gone.

Honestly, just play as crazy as you'd like. Also remember to vote Arch on the top.

Top lynch? Sure

16:37

Wait was it always only town invest affected by the rule change?

16:40

Its fun how it went silent when I said cub

16:40

hepi

16:44

Honesty it is way more fun when not caring what will happen

16:44

What are some roles that would make wolves sweat when they think they might be in the rolelist? (edited)

16:44

Barber and macho turn to my mind

16:45

Exe of course

16:46

Honestly cult would be such a meme since there’s a slight possikbity that they would exist with how the rules state there could be 5 more toen group lol

16:47

Don’t react to my message stop much turtle

First Mate Martesino

Wait was it always only town invest affected by the rule change?

I didn't realize either

I swear if it was edited in

Actually unvote Arch and then vote again later closer to phase change

16:49

Is that OK?

Sure

16:49

Done

Else Arch will use that as a way to confirm themselves.

First Mate Martesino

I swear if it was edited in

nah u can see the last time it was edited was monday

Wait how

16:53

I only see edited

u hover ur mouse around the word edited

Ah yes phone

16:54

But thanks for clarifying

phone issue lol

Skill issue fr

hope this gets some of the potential heat off of you turtle

17:09

at least they will be focussed on me

17:09

so take it as a sacrifice or something idk

17:12

i guess it will be a long time before i will join a game again

kinda want to send inv the list but i also dont care

17:31

Swurtle:

Marten can you do me a favor we know you’re scum and you don’t care about winning or losing on the first lynch poll can you tie it by voting Arch?

17:31

lmao

Lol, nice.

21:05

You can do it.

First Mate Martesino

hope this gets some of the potential heat off of you turtle

Thanks.

21:06

Babib FP?

If we lose I want FP to win.

21:15

:dab:

Yea fp > town > www > wolves

So true.

21:17

Wolves will probs win.

21:17

Ignite tonight even with only 4?

21:17

Thoughts?

21:17

Not sure I live to see anothet night.

Alive Players | Total: 17

- Marten (@First Mate Martesino)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Quartermaster of the Blue Seas)

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- Im_dumm0 (@Navy Soldier Linebeck)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Helmsman Mathias)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart)

- SunnySideUp (@Sous Chef Sal Manella)

- Alwin1234567 (@Navy Officer Alwin)

- Jean D. Arch (@Pirate Captain Andar) (edited)

Well, at least there will only be one lynch tomorrow.

Yea

21:20

Probably best to ignite, else there won’t be a choice

Yeah.

Why am I so towny even as Pyro.

21:45

I just can't help it.

21:49

Imagine I'm actually helping Wolves.

21:49

I need to stop posting in townsquare.

Probably better to lay low yea

and if pyro had sence they would powder the enchanted

Do/did we have sense?

No lol

22:52

We don't care

22:52

We like FP

Also should I vote?

22:52

Or make them sweat about the tie

22:53

I could make it tie lol

It's up to you, lol, it doesn't really matter for us if Invinci or Arch dies, so you can snipe if you want

‍♂️ you don't owe anyone anything.

22:53

I'm glad you stayed alive another 2 days

First Mate Martesino

and if pyro had sence they would powder the enchanted

Do/did we have sense?

I mean, tbf, 2/4 of our powders are enchanted, which is pretty good odds.

22:57

Vote Arch to dab on the haters, I guess.

22:57

But it's up to you lol.

Ew dabbing

Taking arch with me like I said just not as exe lol

Captain Luffy

Ew dabbing

Haters are going to hate.

First Mate Martesino

Taking arch with me like I said just not as exe lol

LOL

22:58

So true.

22:58

You should quote the message for the memes.

Anyway Godspeed on the rest of the game

Stowaway Tortello

You should quote the message for the memes.

Remind me lol

1 minute

(edited)

Awe sad it tie

Sadeness.

Hahaha

23:00

SUCCES

NICE

23:00

Bye teammate.

23:01

See you on the other side, hopefully with some kills or as winner/amazing loser

23:02

Was fun turtle

23:02

Glad to have you as a teammate

Thanks you too!

Welp.

23:13

I guess tonight is ignition night.

23:14

I assume that none of our players will be protected.

Alive Players | Total: 10

- Nick262008 (@Cabin boy Nistelo)

- Madamabaab (@Madam 'Wildfire' Bab)

- invincitank (@Seaman Isaac)

- federick (@Shipwright Felix)

- Alphaviki (@Second Mate Alphonso) thight

thight

- Swurtle (@Captain Selena)

️ - The8thSoul (@The 8th Buccaneer)

- Mr. Turtle (@Stowaway Tortello)

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Boatswain Tetra) orb

orb

- BartTheBart (@Chief Funner Bart) (edited)

They all died.

11:40

Snivy was wolf-killed.

Whoops, I accidentally killed the entirety of Town.

"whoops"

U killed the entire navy

First Mate Martesino

Yea fp > town > www > wolves

I'm sorry I'm siding with your murderer, Marten, but as you said yourself

You accomplished the opposite of everything you attempted to do lol

K.

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