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wtf

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Uh yk what forget abt it

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Hey guys so we should discuss what the solo groups in this channel are

POKEMANS

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hmmm...

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Atm the most likely candidates are: Flute Hell Flute WWW PB Horsemen

Well we can get rid of horsemen since limited roles are mentioned

6 solos means likely either three pairs, or 2 triplets

I really have a strong gut feeling there’s at least 2 flutists

Triplet solos are really rare

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Tend to be very op

Eredin Bréacc Glas

6 solos means likely either three pairs, or 2 triplets

Or 1 triplet, 1 pair + WWW

Well this is a big game I wouldn’t be surprised

It's either 1 www, 1 pure solo, 2 duos (unlikely), or 3 duos

Plague Maiden of Maribor

It's either 1 www, 1 pure solo, 2 duos (unlikely), or 3 duos

Three duos being pyro, flute and hell?

Hmm

(Maybe replace hell with Plague?)

There is at most one mass killing solo

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Two mass killing solos is just too much

Then pyro, flute and plague?

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wait... plague kills as well... I think

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I'm starting to think maybe 2 solo triplets

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Coz we also have 30 players, don't we

Alive Players | Total: 28

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Plague Maiden of Maribor)

️ - The8thSoul (@Eredin Bréacc Glas) gibagul

- Suso (@Anna Henrietta)

- Curtiss P-40D Katyhawk (@Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Renfri Vellga)

- the kremblin (@Kikimore Queen)

️ - Swurtle (@Sheala de Tancarville)

- Im_dumm0 (@Djinn)

- An1m4l.Cann1b4l (@Regis)

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- MatMeistress (@Mousesack)

- invincitank (@Morvudd)

- Captain Luffy (@Lambert)

️ - riciano (@Radovid V the Stern)

- huckhuck55 (@Henselt)

- TheOreo (@Orianna the Bruxa)

- Nick262008 (@Kernun)

- Leilaboo (@Leo Bonhart)

- Jean D. Arch (@Emhyr var Emreis)

- aprilhatesu (@Avallac'h)

- Mr. Turtle (@Gaunter O'Dimm (the Second))

- federick (@Foltest)

- Vera but actually a frog (@Vera but actually a frog)

- Dennis (@Sigismund Dijkstra)

- ddd8000 (@Roach) thight

- Akira (@Keira Metz) orb

- BartTheBart (@Bart the Rock Troll) pensivegayblob

- babibdou (@Silver Basilisk)

️ - Bemo (@Eskel) (edited)

Yeah... it's like 28 players

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So 2 solo triplets should probably be possible

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(As it would still be around 1 v 8 for both solo teams)

Triplets are very op

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Especially in replacement-roles

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ex. firebug

hmm...

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Well... it could be a Pyro + Wisp combo?

Wisp is still a replacement role

Like... Pyro + Firebug + Wisp?

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Have a feeling there's plague

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Lots of visiting roles

Yeah I think it’s 3 pyro and 3 flute tbh

We will find out about solos in a few phases anyways

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As soon as players start claiming effects anyways

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like wagers etc.

Snivy 3 flute is just... a no

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I think it's flute/plague/hell

Why not pyro?

Plague is weird

.plaguebearer

❗ Could not find role plaguebearer. Did you mean plague bearer?

Plague is a mass kill solo

I’m actually begging for 3 flute

2 mass kill solos feels a bit much

Flute Team

Flute Player FluteApprentice

Flute Apprentice FluteCharmer

Flute Charmer

.flute charmer

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oh right

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Only limited roles are shared

I think I like this cc

Flute tends to win nicely

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Because it's very streamlined and able-to-be-simulated

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It's basically "kill it in time or lose"

It kinda does feel like maybe the solo roles have visiting abilities, otherwise there would be no point in the bear existing

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Wait... all solo roles visit

‍♂️

Visiting only counts as killing right?

No

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Bear icon is SO CUTE

Does not count targeting as visits

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IKR

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AND DOG

Plague Maiden of Maribor

Bear icon is SO CUTE

What did you expect? It's a bear lmao

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Why not cat?

Cats a bit scary

oh

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lmao

That’s why there’s a chance it turns into a psychopath

XD

Lolll

Though it may be a recruit solo

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(aka vamp)

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Out of the TP x3 it's probably exorcist x2

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And one confirmable/other tp

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Though there's 2 TIs so I kinda doubt there's an info TP (herald/medium)

Probably exorcist, stalker and royal knight

Snivy that’s so fucking random

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2 exorcists 1 rk makes sense at least

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Then again AH is confirmable so I don’t think there’s too many town confirmables

I like stalker

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It’s an interesting role

You never even used it???

Plus I think the two votes can have a masssive change in a big game

Stalker is only interesting during early game

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During endgame, sure it’s helpful but it’s not interesting

It’s very interesting

Also now that stalker isn’t confirmable anymore it can now be faked

I think it makes a huge difference

Boring difference though

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It’s like a free mayor

It’s so interesting

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So so so interesting

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It is a cool role

Early game when polls are more split a stalker can be interesting

It’s the definition of cool

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So let’s

Okay fine snivy you have your narrow opinions

Yes

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Let’s make a list

But just because you like a role doesn’t mean it’s in the game

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Stalker is barely used

TOWN (13) • Townsfolk Investigative (2) • Townsfolk Killing (3) ‣ Amulet Holder ‣ Rogue Wolf • Townsfolk Miscellaneous (5) • Townsfolk Power (3) - exorcist - stalker - royal knight WOLF (6) • Wolf Investigative (1) ‣ Archivist Fox • Wolf Power (2) ‣ Pack Tanner • Other Wolf (3) SOLO (6) - flute player - *flute apprentice - flute apprentice - pyromancer - firebug - devil UNALIGNED (3) • Unaligned Miscellaneous (1) ‣ Bear • Other Unaligned (2) (edited)

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I’ll edit this as we go along

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Guys let’s call this town trusted

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Well

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Too an extent

Snivy don’t be serious

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There’s at least 1 scum in this cc

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According to probability

Werewolf Power

Disguised Fox InfectingWolf

Infecting Wolf SaboteurWolf

Saboteur Wolf Tanner

Tanner

Corrupt Wolf PackTanner

Pack Tanner

Either iw or sab

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Tanner or df doesn’t make too much sense (edited)

Wolves are a bit small in this list though tbh

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Even 7 wolves would only account for 25% of the rolelist

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Have a feeling IW is likely

Solo Categories

Solo Recruitment (SR) SoloKilling

Solo Killing (SK) SoloPower

Solo Power (SP) SoloMiscellaneous

Solo Miscellaneous (SM)

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Solo Recruitment

Vampire (Underworld Team) Bat

Bat (Underworld Team) Zombie

Zombie (Graveyard Team)

Yeah

Command error. Can't make you a spectator while you're a participant.

And cursed civ

Solo Killing

Demon (Hell Team) Devil

Devil (Hell Team)

Pyromancer (Pyro Team) Wisp

Wisp (Pyro Team) WhiteWerewolf

White Werewolf (White Wolves) PlagueBearer

Plague Bearer (Plague Team) Firebug

Firebug (Pyro Team) Reaper

Reaper (Nightmare Team) Wraith

Wraith (Nightmare Team) BitterHag

Bitter Hag (Hag Team; T) ApocalypticHorseman

Apocalyptic Horseman (Horsemen Team; T) HorsemanofDeath

Horseman of Death (Horsemen Team)

There's at least 1-2 cciv

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Very likely a dog/cat pair

Solo Power

Flute Apprentice (Flute Team) FlutePlayer

Flute Player (Flute Team)

Cerberus (Hell Team)

Shepherd (Flock Team) HerdingDog

Herding Dog (Flock Team) FluteCharmer

Flute Charmer (Flute Team) HorsemanofPestilence

Horseman of Pestilence (Horsemen Team) HorsemanofWar

Horseman of War (Horsemen Team) HorsemanofFamine

Horseman of Famine (Horsemen Team)

Horseman (Horsemen Team)

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Solo Miscellaneous

Imp (Hell Team; T) DemonicCupid

Demonic Cupid (Hell Team; T) Undead

Undead (Underworld Team; T) PlagueCarrier

Plague Carrier (Plague Team) Corpse

Corpse (Graveyard Team) Spirit

Spirit (Nightmare Team; T)

;)

Plague/Flute/Pyro/Hell/WWW/Vamp

Renfri Vellga

;)

Is that a sign?

;)

Snivy you know I'm already scarred from ccing you

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Don't make me regret giving you a second chance

;)

$cc leave

NO

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IF YOU DO THt YOU WILL $CC LEAVE THIS GAME AND BECOME A DEAD SPECTATOR

Hopefully there's no vamp

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If there is I'm just going to cry

Your vamp

No, snivy

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This isn't a reckless accusation cc

Yes it’s town trusted

It's pokemon unite

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Not town trusted

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I can claim pikachu all I want

TOWN TRUSTED

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PHANTOM I WILL FIGHT UOU AFAIN

UOU

Hmmm... so 2 death

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*s

Yeah

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It’s crazy

.ww killing

❗ Could not find role ww killing. Did you mean townsfolk killing (aka Town Killing)?

.werewolf killing

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.solo killing

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It wasn't even night, so it couldn't be WWW

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pyro kill would've been too early

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unless wisp ignited pyro's powder by some chance

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it could potentially be firebug too

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but it would also be a rare occurnece

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*occurence

Www is very strong

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Yeah pyro Idt caused the death

the only other possible causes of death are ww killing or tf killing

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.lone wolf

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It's possible that its lone wolf

Bear is a possibility

Yeah

Let’s do a list

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Why 2 people died: - Bear - Wolf killing - Town killing

Okay... so possible causes of death: - Assassin (strange) - WW faction kill - Lone Wolf - Bear - Pyro (either Pyro + Wisp combo or Firebug ward)

Lolll

Wait... can't be wisp tho

We did it at the same time

Oh nvm

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Wisp isn't limited

Wisp is day

Oh

That’s interesting

In which case

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it's impossible to be pyro

Doesn’t a role kill another role as a dying wish

Eredin Bréacc Glas

Okay... so possible causes of death: - Assassin (strange) - WW faction kill - Lone Wolf - Bear - Pyro (either Pyro + Wisp combo or Firebug ward)

- Assassin [would be weird and kinda aggressive play] - WW faction kill - Lone Wolf ["Other Wolf"] - Bear

But that’s revealed in story time

Oh

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After night 1

Yeah assassins only after night one

ok

Rogue wolf?

Then it must be either Bear or Lone Wolf

.rogue wolf

omg

Could’ve been rouge but that is very risky

it's in the information too

Yeah

Rogue Wolf [Townsfolk Killing]

Limited Role

Basics

The Rogue Wolf is a lycan who decries the behaviour of the other wolves and seeks to eliminate them. The Rogue Wolf may attack a player every night, but must successfully kill an enemy of town at least every other night.

Details

The Rogue Wolf is not a member of the werewolf team or wolfpack, and doesn't know the other werewolves. However, they are still a lycan. The Rogue Wolf may attack a player every night. Should they fail to successfully kill a werewolf or solo aligned player two nights in a row, they lose their ability. The Rogue Wolf is strongly disguised as an arbitrary most common role in the wolfpack, excepting those with permanent or semi-permanent disguises. Attacking a player is an end-night ability.

Tbh, it's possible rogue wolf is gonna mercilessly kill players to try to kill wws

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WTF

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SNIVY NOOOO

Lmao I don't think we were promoted sadly

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Guess it's just the two of us

You said you were a good mayor role?

yeah, but it's mainly coz I don't have good abilities and therefore wouldn't mind dying

Ah, a boring citizen?

not quite

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but almost

Alright

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Hell is most likely devil/demon because nobody is claiming wager

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Considering fed was very likely scum that wager is most likely used for killing

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But if there's a cerberus there would've been another wager claim

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So I don't think there's the helldoggo

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Helldoggo is limited anyways

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So devil/demon is definitely a pair

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The only solos that's possible are: Vamp/Devil/Demon/Pyro/Wisp/Plague/WWW/FP/FA/Plague carrier

For some reason I keep thinking Pyro might be in game

It probably is

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Really high chance

I wonder why Fed claimed Vera as Vamp tho...

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What did Vera claim again?

We don't know

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Fed, if he were scum, would obviously be suicidal

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So recieving wager and using it to kill is likely

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The vera vamp is probably faked

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There's 4 kills last night

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Snivy is either bear/soul

Plague Maiden of Maribor

Snivy is either bear/soul

soul?

Soulkill

ah ok

Dennis, Rabbit, Turtle fall into these 3 categories: Any other TK (unlikely), WK (somewhat unlikely), Rogue Wolf, Wolfpack, Contract Kill (edited)

Plague Maiden of Maribor

Dennis, Rabbit, Turtle fall into these 3 categories: Any other TK (unlikely), WK (somewhat unlikely), Rogue Wolf, Wolfpack, Contract Kill (edited)

And if it were WK, it would likely be Lone Wolf to fit with Rogue Wolf

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It could also be Bear kill, but if it were Bear kill then Snivy's death was caused by soul kill

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(Otherwise someone would've ascended already)

Bear kill is immediate

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Maybe there's an end-night action but idrk tbh