Werewolves Revamped

Vampires Vampire

You started out as part of the Underworld team.

Well hello there @Morvudd

ok so first game but just to verify, the vampire team starts as one vampire and one bat right?

there are no limited solo roles in play, so we're 2 vampires

17:34

at least

17:34

that should be the case

17:35

you're also a vamp right?

yes

17:36

so we demonise 1 player together right, not 1 player each

well it's one per vamp

17:36

so 2 people

17:36

and the next night that's 4 people

17:37

and then 2 etc etc

(Quick Question, since you have two channels, do you wanna keep both #vampires and #underworld or can we delete the other?)

you don't delete them

Ok

vampires is for the vampire team

17:37

underworld is for the team+ any undead that will form halfway through the game

17:37

(hopefully)

watch us get decimated N1 now

Well we can still win if our undead stay alive until the end :)

fair

Some thing we'll need before we start is some claims

17:42

generally people will start asking for claims in ccs

17:42

It's just a role that you'll have to fake to try and gain town's trust

17:43

I'm known for claiming pretty out-there roles

17:43

But as a first time player I suggest keeping it simple

any recomended claims? also should i start making ccs with random people now to try built raport?

keep quiet for now, start making ccs later on

17:46

people will generally start asking Night 1 or Day 1

17:47

I'd suggest claiming something like Journalist or Ranger, as they can only confirm themselves when they die

Townsfolk Miscellaneous

Assistant

Amnesiac

Devout Villager Bard

Bard

Bartender

Child

Citizen

Cursed Civilian FortuneApprentice

Fortune Apprentice Idiot

Idiot

Journalist Macho

Macho

Ranger

Runner

Town Crier

Trickster

Alcoholic

Most of these are pretty good to claim but if you find any other role that interests you I can help you with claiming it

Bartender is my favorite claim

Choose any and I can help you with the strategy

Tissaia de Vries

Bartender is my favorite claim

What do I get if I claim Bartender this game

nothing

server owner

D1 lynch?

Tissaia de Vries

D1 lynch?

that's just a skill issue

are votes publicly announced?

Yes

Morvudd

are votes publicly announced?

yup, lynch and election votes are public, they appear in #voting_booth every day phase

18:09

and in the end its possible to see who voted what

so what if i claimbed amne, dont reveal a list but hint towards stronger roles, then day 2 claim macho or another "on death" role just to see if someone would take the bait

hm

18:41

macho is still a bit too confirmable

18:41

but i like your idea

18:42

cuz macho survives after attack and people will depend on that

but its a deterant too, the more surviving vampires there are the easier it is to make everone undead right?

19:03

maybe ranger but thats still not as good in terms of a deterant

honestly

19:03

yeah

but the baisic idea is to just make it long winded so people dont question it

if you claim macho, they wouldn't expect you to fakeclaim it

19:04

what other roles are you thinking of?

19:04

maybe something like assassin and medium?

19:04

for the amne list

i dont think it matters

19:05

because im a new player anyway

19:05

people would understand if im hesitatnt with info

19:05

so i just keep it ambiguous

people might drag on about it, so you'll probably need something prepared once things get settled

hint towards it being powerful village stuff

but yeah, we have time

"oh no i wouldnt want to share, i think ill be targeted"

fair

then d2 just say i was macho either the whole time or just amne into macho not big diff

so your claim is amne turned macho

thats the idea

or macho, whatever suits what people want

can there be double village roles already? and if not can amne turn into a role already present?

both are possible

cool

i was thinking of claiming exorcist

19:07

it has to be in the role list, so it might be a little too easy of a claim

19:08

and if there's flute player, the claim will fall in the water

so i get you said your known for outlandish claims but might exor be a bit too risky, i know they were all taking about needing an exor earlier so any solos will realisticly be gunning for you

yea

19:16

it's too predictable

Townsfolk Power

Fletcher

Grandma

Hooker

Medium

Royal Knight Stalker

Stalker

Exorcist

Herald

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Townsfolk Investigative

Aura Teller CrowdSeeker

Crowd Seeker FortuneTeller

Fortune Teller

Huntsman

Oracle

Innkeeper

Coroner

i could fakeclaim citizen to hide being something more important like TI

citizen might be too vanilla, child maybe?

child to hide oracle?

19:25

that'd be interesting

19:25

though child might sometimes be seen as more of a disadvantage to town at the start, when it's unknown who to lynch yet

what happens if votes are tied or no one votes

nothing happens in that case

btw @Morvudd what's your timezone?

20:52

so I know around when you'll be online

gmt, irish time

ah allright

20:56

close enough to vera time

20:56

Best time

this is day 0 right, so amne hasnt transformed yet? i just want to nail all the specifics so i dont get caught lying

22:48

so amne wont transform tonight i mean

Amnesiac [Townsfolk Miscellaneous]

Basics

The Amnesiac has forgotten their role and only has a vague idea of what it was. They will remember it at the end of Day 1.

Details

From the start of the game until the end of Day 1, the Amnesiac is a normal citizen. At the end of Day 1, they will get to know their role. This role will not be known to the rest of the players, but it will be one of three townsfolk roles that the Amnesiac is told at the start of the game. If the Amnesiac changes into a role that has a power limited to a Day or Night that has already passed, they have to use it in the following Day or Night. If they change into a role that receives information or is part of a group at the start of the game, the Amnesiac will receive the information or join the group directly after changing role.

yup

22:54

they'll get it by the end of day 1, meaning they'll get it during the phase switch of day 1 to night 2

22:54

so at the start of next night

22:55

but you already know the roles you might turn into

22:55

so right now, you're amne

so we turn people now right? how do we do that? is there a command or do we message game masters or something

00:04

and how much coordination are we allowed

game masters will message you in your private vampire sc

ight

we're working together so we can always discuss who we want to demonize

Alive Players | Total: 28

️ - !Phantomtomic (@Plague Maiden of Maribor)

️ - The8thSoul (@Eredin Bréacc Glas) gibagul

- Suso (@Anna Henrietta)

- Curtiss P-40D Katyhawk (@Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach)

- Snivy-Ace13 (@Renfri Vellga)

- the kremblin (@Kikimore Queen)

️ - Swurtle (@Sheala de Tancarville)

- Im_dumm0 (@Djinn)

- An1m4l.Cann1b4l (@Regis)

‍

- MatMeistress (@Mousesack)

- invincitank (@Morvudd)

- Captain Luffy (@Lambert)

️ - riciano (@Radovid V the Stern)

- huckhuck55 (@Henselt)

- TheOreo (@Orianna the Bruxa)

- Nick262008 (@Kernun)

- Leilaboo (@Leo Bonhart)

- Jean D. Arch (@Emhyr var Emreis)

- aprilhatesu (@Avallac'h)

- Mr. Turtle (@Gaunter O'Dimm (the Second))

- federick (@Foltest)

- Vera but actually a frog (@Vera but actually a frog)

- Dennis (@Sigismund Dijkstra)

- ddd8000 (@Roach) thight

- Akira (@Keira Metz) orb

- BartTheBart (@Bart the Rock Troll) pensivegayblob

- babibdou (@Silver Basilisk)

️ - Bemo (@Eskel) (edited)

should we copy paste this but add another marker for who we have attempted to demonise? (edited)

when we've chosen who we want to demonize, ping Host in your vampire secret channel

00:05

yeah that's a good idea

00:06

the guy who was being a nuisance in town square claimed town

00:06

he left the server but got substituted for Turtle

00:06

so Id say let's demonize turtle

ok

and we can choose another target

00:07

one of us does turtle, the other one goes for another target

:candle: !Phantomtomic (@Plague Maiden of Maribor)
☯️ - The8thSoul (@Eredin Bréacc Glas)
:gibagul: - Suso (@Anna Henrietta)
🐱 - Curtiss P-40D Katyhawk (@Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach)
;heart: - Snivy-Ace13 (@Renfri Vellga)    demonised N1
:bubble tea: - the kremblin (@Kikimore Queen)
☢️ - Swurtle (@Sheala de Tancarville)
🥖 - Im_dumm0 (@Djinn)
🎭 - An1m4l.Cann1b4l (@Regis)
👁‍🗨 - MatMeistress (@Mousesack)
🥁 - invincitank (@Morvudd)      vamp
🎨 - Captain Luffy (@Lambert)
⚔️ - riciano (@Radovid V the Stern)
🍼 - huckhuck55 (@Henselt)
💙 - TheOreo (@Orianna the Bruxa)
🗿 - Nick262008 (@Kernun)
🐛 - Leilaboo (@Leo Bonhart)
🐓 - Jean D. Arch (@Emhyr var Emreis)
🌷 - aprilhatesu (@Avallac'h)
🐢 - Mr. Turtle (@Gaunter O'Dimm (the Second))   town  demonise later
👌 - federick (@Foltest)     demonised N1
🏹 - Vera but actually a frog (@Vilgefortz of Roggeveen)   vamp
🐘 - Dennis (@Sigismund Dijkstra)
🖕🏽 - ddd8000 (@Roach)
:thight: - Akira (@Keira Metz)
:Orb: - BartTheBart (@Bart the Rock Troll)
:pensivegayblob: - babibdou (@Silver Basilisk)
👁️ - Bemo (@Eskel)

(edited)

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you can ping Host in your private channel with a message like 'demonize Turtle'

00:08

to finalize the demonization

00:08

any suggestions as to who i should demonize?

this isnt final yet its just notes

00:08

in the same conversation, the guy before turtle read snivy as town

00:09

so we could do turtle and snivy as theyre likely town

00:09

it's a start

sounds good to me

00:09

ill do turtle you do snivy

we can't do much strategy anyways, people won't actively claim until it's daytime probably

are we allowed to pin things in this channel?

00:10

it would be usefull to pin that in case it gets pushed too far back

yes, react to a message with

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

cool

00:10

ill also makes logs just in case i mess up with the editing

or if the bot at some point stops working nicely ask me, you've got the privilige of playing your first game together with an admin

00:11

(theres actually nothing special about it)

@Participant demonise who?

i just can do a few things like pinning messages without the bot

 Vampire team
Invincitank and Vera

Day 0 info
Turtles predecessor claims Town 

Night 1
Vera -> Snivy
fredrick (innkeeper) checks vera
invincitank ->fredrick

Day 1 Info

Night 2
Vera ->huck  april
invincitank -> phantom  8th

(edited)

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allright i guess we'll do that then

00:12

sounds like a solid plan

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

another thing we can do is make use of delays

00:13

demonizing is an immediate ability and delays would mean we delay it to the end of the phase and gives us time to change the target if needed

cool

00:13

well i guess for practicallity sake we delay it until the end of the night

Abilities - Delaying Abilities

Delaying Immediate Abilities is possible in three ways: 1) An immediate ability can be chosen one phase before it has to be executed (e.g. a Fortune Teller choosing a target during the day). If this is the case, the Game Masters will execute the immediate ability at an arbitrary time during its phase (the time can not be chosen). 2) An immediate ability may be executed roughly 15 minutes before the next phase change, if requested. If several conflicting immediate abilities are delayed this way, the order in which they were requested is preserved. Abilities delayed this way can be cancelled/rerequested. 3) An end-day/start-night ability or an end delayed immediate day ability (using 2) may be chosen with an additional condition dependent on the outcome of the lynch and/or election. This only applies if the target is visibly lynched/elected. Should the target unexpectedly die/be elected, the condition won't be used.

unless there is a another factor im missing

it's always until about 15mins before the end of the night, we cant choose a time with delays

00:14

unless at some point during the night we say "demonize now" or something along those lines

00:15

it's the first night so it might just be better to immediately demonize, not much will happen probably

00:15

in case one of us somehow loses their alignment, we'll still have something to work with

there are immediate abilities that kill right?

yes

00:16

that'd be stuff like hell souls, barber, amulet holder

the conditions mentioned in rule 3, does that mean i can say "demonise x unless they die in which case demonise y at the end of the night"

yes

because it mentiones lynching but thats delayed by message during day phase

00:16

so can it be set during the night

good question

00:17

hasn't been used like that yet

00:17

so it's up to the hosts if they allow it

Morvudd

the conditions mentioned in rule 3, does that mean i can say "demonise x unless they die in which case demonise y at the end of the night"

@Host would this be allowed

no

00:18

only applies to lynches and elections, not sudden deaths

so conditions are only set when its delayed during the day phase cool

00:18

so if i would want to change my target due to sudden deaths i would need to be online at the time?

Geralt of Rivinya

no

thanks <3

yes

00:18

<3

yes

thank you

if someone dies, a storytime will be made and we'll all be pinged

cool

i'll directly demonize snivy because i probably wont be awake before phase change

i might be awake before the phase change but i dont want to take the chance rn so ill directly demonise turtle now too

yup

00:20

sounds good for n1

00:20

just ping a host with your target and we're set

00:20

well not a host

00:20

the role Host

Vera but actually a frog

just ping a host with your target and we're set

in our "vampire" chat not the "vampires" chat right

for technicality its in your own vampire chat ye

i know im asking enough questions to sound like an illerterate bastard but i like being clear about rules

this has to do with things like alignment changing

cool

00:21

ill do that now

if you somehow changed alignment and would be against me, you could fake demonizing people by simply not saying anything to hosts

00:22

you can't do that in here cuz i'll see who you attempt to demonize

casual tomfoolery

exactly

Morvudd

i know im asking enough questions to sound like an illerterate bastard but i like being clear about rules

no worries, always open to answer questions

i just rememberd it saturday not sunday so i will definatly not be up for the phase change

00:23

i like my sleep ins

yea exactly lmao

00:24

who gets up at 10 on a sunday

00:24

(for me phase changes are at 10)

D0 to N1 happend at 11 pm for me so not as bad, but they did say it would be late today didnt they

yeah, it should be at 9am and 9pm utc

00:25

on weekdays im already up at 9

00:25

but not on weekends

Vera but actually a frog

(for me phase changes are at 10)

no they aren't

it says 9 utc

wait

00:26

huh

that's 10 vera time

i thought they were gonna be at 10

00:26

eh who cares

you can change it

nah

quick question to the hosts, how many text chats are yall looking at right now, must be hell

i dont care

00:26

way too many

28 personal chats

00:27

like 2 or 3 chats extra per solo role

00:27

default chats like wolfpack and elected

00:27

maybe dividers

00:27

id say a full category of secret channels and an evergrowing arsenal of ccs

id love to see a list of the text chats to an older game or this one when its over

when this game is over, you'll get to see all the game channels

00:28

or when you die but i hope we dont die quickly

Morvudd

watch us get decimated N1 now

️

okay i might get decimated n1

00:29

federick just messaged me this in cc

00:29

Hi Vera I know what you are

Don't suck me blood pls

oooo

he claims to be unaligned

00:30

used a devil wager to check me

uuuuh

00:30

could you $i that role pls

so devil also knows my role now

00:30

oh prepare yourself, devil is an awfully long role

Devil [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

Each day, the Devil may choose one player to send the devil’s wager to. The devil's wager recipient may choose one of four options. The Devil can use the hell team's pool of souls. When everyone is dead, unaligned or soulless the Devil wins.

Details (1/2)

During the first phase, the Devil may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Devil's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Devil may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Devil is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Devil. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. The Devil can't send the wager to soulless players. The wager is sent at the start of the night. The wager cannot be redirected onto another player. The Devil can anonymously communicate with the recipient. Until the end of the night, the recipient may choose to sell their soul to protect or attack somebody, or to share their identity to learn the role of another player, which the devil will also see. Alternatively, they may also ignore the wager.

Details (2/2)

If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, however no wager action can happen anymore. Use $info wager for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way.

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Devil's Wager | Additional Info - Hell Team

The Devil's Wager recipient may choose one of these four options: 1) The recipient may choose to sell their soul, to attack another player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. At the end of the night the devil will attack the player chosen by the recipient. If the recipient chooses a member of the hell team, they will sell their soul as normal, but the devil will not execute the attack. The recipient is not informed. 2) The recipient may choose to sell their soul, to protect a player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. For the rest of the night the player chosen by the recipient will be protected from any attacks to target them. The recipient may choose to protect themself. 3) The recipient may choose to sell their identity, to see another player’s role. Checking another player is an immediate effect, and the role is shown to both the recipient and the devil. Afterwards, the devil is privately informed what role the recipient has. Both of the investigations are affected by weak disguises. Checking the other player is affected by redirections and obstructions, but checking the recipient is not. These effects are seen from the devil’s perspective, not the recipient’s. 4) The recipient may choose to ignore the devil's wager. The Devil's Wager recipient may choose until the end of the night, if they have not chosen by then, the wager is automatically ignored. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, but no new wager action can happen anymore. The recipient cannot undo selling their soul, but if they have chosen an attack, they may change the target until the end of the night, or switch to a protection instead. Protections are immediate and cannot be changed.

federick mentions the devil being 'very shy'

00:32

idk what he means by that

ok

00:32

so wait

00:33

he is claiming devil?

he's claiming to be unaligned

00:33

he got the devil's wager

ok

that's why he isnt screaming in townsquare

hmmm

00:34

dam and we have already demonised our people

00:34

would it be worth demonising vera later?

00:34

we have 3 unalinged, bear + 2

00:35

oh

00:35

i actually havent sent my demonise yet

00:35

i was typing it

00:35

then forgot

he just claimed innkeeper to me

00:35

he's no unaligned

00:36

so he will out you

likely

and he will probably check for vamps at that

there won't be an easy way to get out of this

i still havent demonised anyone yet thank god

your action isnt confirmed yet?

i could change my target demonise him now and pray he dies

might as well do federick instead then

i was typing the thing then forgot

he won't die tonight

00:38

shit

00:38

he's got the amulet of protection

00:38

aghhh

i call bull

00:39

ill demonise him anyhow

yeah

00:39

that's fine

00:39

he offered to pass it to me

00:39

i'll just accept and see where it goes

dam this is very all or nothing for you now

yup

00:42

i'm fucked

00:42

as long as federick dies quickly we might be saved

because either he has the amulet and doesnt get demonised, passes it to you, ccs the amulet holder and you die or hes a lier and we are grand

but if town trusted forms tomorrow i'm fucked

00:42

demonisation still goes even if he;s protected

ye but he wont die in time

we'll just have to wait a day extra before he even has a chance to turn undead

00:43

yup

00:43

this is a really unfortunate turn of events

00:43

devil now also knows my role

00:43

at least that confirms the existence of a hell team

not exactly, once again this is either his perfect liuckiest game or the largest pile of bull for miles around

he seems very genuine but i haven't confirmed or denied me being vamp

00:46

so i'll keep it mysterious

00:48

i wantd to go to sleep but ig i'll stay up a little longer

if you publicly claimed vamp that would be seen as an angel move wouldnt it

people would immediately try to disprove it

00:48

i'd be checked

but that in turn is of course the rabbit hole of angel and attempted suicide in hidden role games

federick would immediately go against me

00:49

and would have a devil wager claim to back that up

00:49

which is pretty solid and checking a role is also not a bad thing to do with the wager

what does it mean in the wager, selling your identity

checking a person means you also reveal your role to the devil

00:50

so in this case the devil would know federick is innkeeper

and the devil sees the role of the person you checked too right?

it's what kinda keeps federick quiet

00:50

yup

00:51

federick cant just randomly go public with this because i could reveal him as innkeeper and thereby paint a target on his back

00:52

but he's got the aulet

wow hes really doubling down on the amulet claim (edited)

if he does it now im fucked

00:52

yeah uh

00:52

damn

00:52

i'll probably be up for lynch tomorrow

00:53

omg

00:53

if he checked for innkeeper

00:53

that means he didn't check for vamp

00:53

so he doesn't know yet how many vamps there are

00:54

but i do believe his claims

00:54

you wouldn't go public this quickly with a fakeclaim

hold up that claim means the entire town investigative is innkeepers

yeah lmao

are roles revealed on death?

nope

well i guess they kind of are now

that's for the 2nd elected role, reporter

oh god if he starts pushing everyone to reveal to him then this might be a night 1 fred victory

people seem to be against claiming so early tho

00:57

might delay our suffering

00:58

okay i'll just go to sleep and see if im dead or up for lynch tomorrow

00:58

:/

00:59

I'll talk to you later buddy

see ya

let's hope we're not as doomed as we think we are

im gonna be watching VODs and shit so if you wake up in the middle of the night and scream Eureka feel free to message me

lmaooo

00:59

goodnight

im somehow still alive

10:12

lets see if i survive lynch

unlucky for us we didnt stick to turtle

10:35

we wouldve had a teammate

hm

11:20

people are saying wager kill, meaning federick didnt actually check me

im doomed

11:31

fed will reveal me

Wait so did Fred reveal you?

yup

I'm trynna act clueless but also don't want to steer the convo too much

but people aren't too keen on believing him (edited)

12:26

im not sure how my defense looks from an outsider perspective

I didnt read it but logically I'm assuming it hinges on Fred really being innkeeper right, we can't rely on the devil to out himself and back Fred up so we can only make role based accusations

12:32

Crap so snivy died midday, then we got bad targets, our only demonised now is fredrick but he will prolly be exorcised at the end of the night since we just gotta pray for a midnight kill on him

12:32

However if you survive the night at least we get 4 demonised tonight

i'll have to just survive the day

12:33

it's gonna need a lot of convincing people tho

Outside of his claims we assume hell does exist and then the roles listed on the info list, might it be worth convincing everyone to slow down and find a way to check him tonight before acting

hm

12:36

i guess i would be the person to try and do that

But if I did it instead and he happens to die before he can be confirmed

12:36

Because if you do it, it's a guilty defence

it is

12:36

you wanna try it?

12:37

i don't think they'd expect it from you

I'm mostly coming from confusion so if possible I'll suggest the idea once the first vote for either mayor or lynch hits

12:39

Or would it be best to start questioning now

probaly question now

12:41

people are bound to bandwagon

12:41

and once like 7 players start bandwagoning, its hard to change peoples minds

wow i logged back in at a good time

yup

so this extra kill is not a good look on fred then i take it

13:12

cant be more then 1 devil right, so never more then 1 wager

yea

13:12

tho hell team will likely have a 2nd role like cerberus or demon

rogue wolf doesnt mention attacking immdeiatly so i assume its an end of night kill

fed asked me to add everyone to my cc with him

what does that mean

13:16

also crap i was hoping no one would bring up the bear

dont think you should have said that

it'll be fine hopefully

13:26

it will make fed seem more insane

13:26

because nobody in his right mind would claim that

13:28

see, it immediately makes fed seem way more sus

13:31

i'll just claim

Morvudd

dont think you should have said that

you were completely right

Who is the other amu claim

huck

Cool

did i miss anything in the last hour or so

15:25

im staying quiet for now

Just people asking for tldrs

allright

15:26

this is chaos lmao

They want access to the cc but if your trying to stay quiet I'd say don't let them in

yea

15:27

i'll keep quiet for a bit longer

15:27

im actually busy anyways

I'm about to be busy too (edited)

For now. In my state of not really knowing what is happening. Ima vote for the one with the disgruntled cat icon for mayor on the basis that I like the emoji they used and I gtg and don't have time to unwrap this ball of confusion

IM SCREAMING WHHAHAHA

15:35

love that

15:35

this is hilarious

uh well

16:25

that took a turn

i thin the heat is temporarily off of me

17:19

which is pretty nice

17:19

so at least we get 4 people demonized tonight

Tldr me from disgruntled cat icon please

you were voting disgruntled cat icon for lynch and not mayor

18:48

they've shifted the lynch to swurtle, who revealed herself to be a AH fakeclaim

18:49

it's the cc called soup, i think everyone was added

18:49

and luffy for mayor, just so we would have mayor

18:49

i dont think he's confirmed

18:49

I'm gonna be back from being busy now to ask for a TL;DR myself

i claimed medium hiding behind child to huck

I said I was macho hoping to bait with high potential amne claim if questioned

allright

21:16

ig that's our claims out of the way then

This must he really exciting for dead participants as they watch us make fake claims and elaborate plans and see 3 text channels below a group of confirmed vill are just discussing "oh yeah for sure X is a fake. Let's see how long we can torture him" (edited)

lmaoo

Anyway, should we discuss who we plan to demonise yet?

i think we should

Assuming neither of us due soon. We get 4

maybe the suspected mayor

21:32

and huck is confirmed, so definitely him

21:32

he also said 8th is confirmed, so that's the next obvious option

What was suso again?

21:35

I think for the 4th a shot in the dark might work in our favour if we snipe another solo or unaligned. Let's go for April

21:35

Wait thats not the emoji

21:35

There we go

Morvudd

What was suso again?

unsure, he hasnt claimed

Morvudd

new person, interesting

21:39

sure, let's do that

i think huck is working with phantom

and what does that mean for us

phantom might be town trusted too

22:19

idk

ok

so be careful what you say ig

22:20

idk, its good info to know

22:20

if we can somehow invade town trusted that'd be great

wait

22:21

might it be better not to demonise the mayor

why?

because if he is alive then reporter is brought in

hm true

and unless we are luckt enough to become reporter

that would prove federick

our claims may go out the window too

but mayor being undead is pretty good for us

22:22

town trusts them

true

22:22

but it may be of more value to us to either not let mayor live

but if they dont die for a few days without good reason, people will start questioning it

or turn the reporter before the are elected

hm

22:23

so ig we gotta get town trusted undead

they said 8th is next trusted right?

yes

so they will likely be reporter\

so that'd be huck and 8th for sure

we are already demonising them

luffy is only mayor because they want reporter

22:23

not because he's actually trusted

so lets leave luffy, hope he dies

sounds good to me

lets demonise 8th on baisis of probably being reporter, husk to turn the most trusted town, and 2 randoms?

22:24

no

22:24

phantom

and another random

yea

22:24

sounds good

ill get 8th and phantom, you get husk and your pick of a random

22:25

id stick with april tbh

allright

22:25

i'll go huck and april

22:25

should we delay or do it directly

22:25

in case hell somehow wants to kill

22:25

dont think hell has a lot of souls left

22:25

1 or 2

directly

yeah

22:26

it's the better option for us

the people we want to demonise are more valuable as undead

22:32

phantom opened a cc with me

22:32

aaaaaaaaaaaa

oh boy oh boy

22:33

saying anything interesting?

he claims cit

hm

22:34

yeah that's a pretty normal cc

22:35

some people create ccs at random just to talk to others

22:35

its an unspoken rule that the person who creates the cc should be the first of the people in the cc to claim their role if it comes to that point

ive gone and decided to tell huck that phantom claimed cit, just to see what happens

22:36

sounds fine

i think hes probing me to see if im lying on account of being a new player

22:40

asking if i have transformed yet

hm

22:40

interesting

22:41

you should be able to give the right answers

OH SHIT

23:07

@Morvudd i got the devil's wager

23:08

i could try to strike a deal

did you do anything yet

nope

23:11

not a word

ok

23:11

we are sure about our demonise targets right

i can investigate, kill or protect

23:11

yup

23:12

i'll submit those now

23:12

that's first priority

here is the thing

23:12

we have demonised people now

23:12

we can do a funny

we can

23:12

should i let huck know im wagered?

not yet

it will keep us from killing

23:13

if i dont let him know soon enough it might get sus

at worst we can pretend we got the wager later

Devil [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

Each day, the Devil may choose one player to send the devil’s wager to. The devil's wager recipient may choose one of four options. The Devil can use the hell team's pool of souls. When everyone is dead, unaligned or soulless the Devil wins.

Details (1/2)

During the first phase, the Devil may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Devil's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Devil may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Devil is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Devil. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. The Devil can't send the wager to soulless players. The wager is sent at the start of the night. The wager cannot be redirected onto another player. The Devil can anonymously communicate with the recipient. Until the end of the night, the recipient may choose to sell their soul to protect or attack somebody, or to share their identity to learn the role of another player, which the devil will also see. Alternatively, they may also ignore the wager.

Details (2/2)

If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, however no wager action can happen anymore. Use $info wager for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way.

but i can also pretend to not have read anything yet

23:13

wager is always at the start of the night

ye pretend to be off for a bit

allright

23:13

so what do we do

23:13

we currently got 4 people demonized

23:13

we can kill (suspicious)

23:13

uh

23:14

shit

23:14

my man

23:14

fuck it im killing huck then

23:14

i want a teammate

23:15

oh wait

23:15

so

23:15

huck or 8th is bear

23:15

its gotta be

23:15

@Host if i use wager to attack bear, does the devil get attacked?

yes

awesome

23:16

okay so

23:16

2p hell would have 1 soul

23:16

i trust federick to not have lied about wager

23:17

so there's hells -1 from the soulkill on snivy

23:17

hell would have 1 soul

23:17

can i abuse that

23:17

8th is bear

23:17

i can make hell attack bear

23:17

as having bear be demonized is useless anyways

23:17

but i do want someone useful

23:18

maybe phantom? he was just a suspicion

23:18

have hell attack phantom and suggest they soulkill 8th

23:18

okay

23:18

nice

23:18

that gets rid of bear

23:19

hm

23:19

do i trust huck to be attacked in the morning

23:19

fuck it i can keep wager secret

23:20

i'll reveal wager

23:21

might as well pretend to work with town

23:23

;i devil

❗ Could not find role i devil. Did you mean devil?

23:23

Devil [Solo Killing - Hell Team]

Basics

Each day, the Devil may choose one player to send the devil’s wager to. The devil's wager recipient may choose one of four options. The Devil can use the hell team's pool of souls. When everyone is dead, unaligned or soulless the Devil wins.

Details (1/2)

During the first phase, the Devil may choose a role as a weak disguise (defaults to citizen). At the start of the game the Devil's soul is added to the hell team's pool of souls, and they are soulless afterwards. The Devil may use souls from the pool to protect or attack somebody. If the Devil is attacked while a soul is in the pool, a soul will automatically be used to protect the Devil. Use $info souls for a detailed explanation. The Devil can't send the wager to soulless players. The wager is sent at the start of the night. The wager cannot be redirected onto another player. The Devil can anonymously communicate with the recipient. Until the end of the night, the recipient may choose to sell their soul to protect or attack somebody, or to share their identity to learn the role of another player, which the devil will also see. Alternatively, they may also ignore the wager.

Details (2/2)

If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, however no wager action can happen anymore. Use $info wager for a detailed explanation. Members of the Hell team cannot betray the team in any way.

23:23

Souls | Additional Info - Hell Team

Members of the hell team that can use Souls (soul users) may use a Soul to protect someone from all attacks for the current night. If used during the day the player will be protected for the next night. Using a Soul to protect a player is an immediate effect. Soul users may use a Soul to attack a player. The player will be attacked immediately and it is not revealed why they died. This ability may be used during both day and night. If the attack fails it is explained. If a soul user is attacked during the night and if they have a spare soul in the pool, they will be protected and a soul will be used up automatically. If they are attacked several times a soul is used for every attack. If several soul users are attacked at the same time and there aren't enough souls to protect them all, the protections are chosen randomly, but the Devil is always protected first. When souls are used to protect a member the whole of hell is informed of who was attacked.

23:23

Devil's Wager | Additional Info - Hell Team

The Devil's Wager recipient may choose one of these four options: 1) The recipient may choose to sell their soul, to attack another player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. At the end of the night the devil will attack the player chosen by the recipient. If the recipient chooses a member of the hell team, they will sell their soul as normal, but the devil will not execute the attack. The recipient is not informed. 2) The recipient may choose to sell their soul, to protect a player. Selling the soul immediately adds it to the pool. For the rest of the night the player chosen by the recipient will be protected from any attacks to target them. The recipient may choose to protect themself. 3) The recipient may choose to sell their identity, to see another player’s role. Checking another player is an immediate effect, and the role is shown to both the recipient and the devil. Afterwards, the devil is privately informed what role the recipient has. Both of the investigations are affected by weak disguises. Checking the other player is affected by redirections and obstructions, but checking the recipient is not. These effects are seen from the devil’s perspective, not the recipient’s. 4) The recipient may choose to ignore the devil's wager. The Devil's Wager recipient may choose until the end of the night, if they have not chosen by then, the wager is automatically ignored. If the Devil dies before the night ends, the recipient is not informed, but no new wager action can happen anymore. The recipient cannot undo selling their soul, but if they have chosen an attack, they may change the target until the end of the night, or switch to a protection instead. Protections are immediate and cannot be changed.

okay

23:24

if i kill phantom

23:25

huck gets attacked and becomes undead

23:25

phantom becomes undead

23:26

huck can claim he got wager protected

23:26

ez

23:26

i'll go to sleep now

23:26

@Morvudd thanks for being my vamp buddy

23:26

pleasure teaming up with ya

23:26

23:29

goddamn this game just got hard

23:29

im gonna hjhfdskf go insane

23:29

i need sleep

23:30

this is gonna keep me up

didnt keep me up

07:59

i was only up to listen to the entire discography of abba

08:00

whichi put at 11:30 and was still playing at 5:30

i patiently await my death

09:57

after the break

did i

10:23

i just

10:23

10:24

AND HE WAS THERE

10:24

FUCK

huh?

i straight up pinged huck with fake medium results

10:25

laugh at me <3 <3

10:25

please

ripppp

Skill Issue + Welcome to the Group + WWR Syndrome

truly

10:26

i'll see if he susses me

Anyway, proud of me for not fucking up phase change? (we do not count that minor slip up that affects literally no one)

10:26

congrats

10:27

im glad i got an undead now

10:27

but i might be up for lynch once again (edited)

10:27

i'll talk myself out of it

10:27

i will

10:28

people will focus on something else

10:28

im sure of it

10:30

i dont think he saw it

10:30

omg i think its fine

10:31

AND the soul back is factual

10:31

<3 <3

Vera but actually a frog

i dont think he saw it

i have to ask you to edit that back

10:33

we don't allow editing messages to conceal information or slipups

allright

Yes

recovered by spamming

11:08

yeah just bullshitting

11:08

my expertise

11:08

bullshitting

i miss my vamp buddy

10:42

disbanded