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You are part of the Underworld team. You win together with the Vampire(s).

demonized: phantom, huck, april

@Plague Maiden of Maribor has been added to #underworld.

10:22

recruit!

Hello

13:45

Dang what a lonely place

13:46

I’ll be back sometime with the info I know so far

13:49

I was cursed civ btw

(edited)

13:49

Untransformed, though I probably would’ve been transformed next night

I’m probably in a pretty dangerous situation rn

13:57

Akira claimed dog -> cciv, and huck told me he suspected akira as wolf so I have a feeling that akiras already transformed by rogue wolf

13:58

However akira knows I’m cciv so when he transforms I think I’m going to be attacked

Okay here’s all I filled up so far, most are just predictions but some are claims I know

Rolelist - Confirmed, Unlikely, Likely, ~~Dead~~ Town TI x1: Inkeeper (?) x1: TK x1: Amulet Holder x1: Huck Rogue Wolf x1: Assistant (?) x1: Babi Child (?) x1: Runner (?) x1: Val Bard x1: Cursed Civilian x1: Phantom TP x1: Hooker (?) x1: Exorcist (?) x1: Snivy WW - ~~Fed~~, ~~Swurtle~~ Archivist Fox x1: Infecting Wolf (?) x1: Pack Tanner x1: Other x3: Solo Devil (?) x1: Demon (?) x1: Pyromancer (?) x1: Wisp (?) x1: ~~Invinci~~ Vampire (?) x1: Vera White Werewolf (?) x1: UA Bear x1: ~~8thsoul~~ Dog (?) -> Cursed Civilian x1: Akira Cat (?) -> Psychopath x1: Snivy UNKNOWNS: Suso, Katy, Krem, ~~Rabbit~~, Mat, Luffy, Rici, Oreo, Nick, ~~Turtle~~, Leila, Arch, April, ~~Dennis~~, ddd, Akira, Bart, Bemo

14:37

If I don't convince akira somehow I'm probably going to die tonight

Other info I generally know from huck/others: -At least two exo claims, mild chance that either rici or meuh (late claims) may be exo since huck only pointed out the multi-exo claim after all claims -At least two runner claims (Val, ???) -At least two child claims -At least one hooker claim -At least one assistant claim (Babi) (edited)

other vamp was invincitank

Ah

14:45

Ouch

lemme get what we had

14:45

 Vampire team
Invincitank and Vera

Day 0 info
Turtles predecessor claims Town 

Night 1
Vera -> Snivy
fredrick (innkeeper) checks vera
invincitank ->fredrick

Dennis, Turtle, Rabbit Dead

Day 1 Info
Luffy Mayor
Swurtle Lynch

Snivy, Federick Dead

Night 2
Vera -> huck  april
invincitank -> phantom  8th

8th, Invincitank, Mat dead

Day 2 Info
Val Reporter
ddd Lynch

Night 3
Vera -> Val

Oreo Dead

(edited)

1

14:46

fed was completely right and i trust him on his wager claim

14:46

i used my wager kill to attack you

Ah

i told huck wager protected him

14:47

he trusts me a bit more because he is still alive

14:47

he'll get exo on me

14:48

once he sees i am indeed soulless he'll probably trust me more

Cool

14:48

At least we have cover

im a medium claim

Sad how two demonized people were killed during day

yeah

14:49

we almost demonized turtle

14:49

but did fed instead because he claimed that wager thing to me

14:50

scared the shit out of us

Do you know what role luffy is?

14:51

Huck is asking if I know luffy's role

no

14:52

we have like 0 info

14:52

im depending on huck to trust me

Ouch, okay

solo is likely devil, demon and 2 pyros

14:53

could be wisp but idk

14:54

and of course me and my buddy

14:54

i fucked up multiple times this game but he did great

Alright, I guess we mostly hope for you entering town trusted or huck dying

yup

14:55

i wanted to make deal with the devil but it was a bit too much effort and thinking

14:55

itd be like attack phantom, use that soul to attack huck

14:56

but thatd make devil sus because huck wouldnt actually die

14:56

i also thought about letting devil attack bear but right at that moment, bear ascended

14:56

ascended because of the demonize

Oh yeah

14:58

Unsure what I should do with akira though, with only one death chances are rogue wolf probably attacked akira already

hm true

15:01

convince huck in some way?

15:01

he asked for wager

15:01

protect you

15:01

and you can tell him about akira

15:01

if you suspect he turned

Akira would know I'm lying the whole time

15:03

Also huck may think ddd is a bigger threat rn

15:04

I'll tell him though

true

15:05

maybe via rogue?

Then again I can also tell akira I'm undead and keep wolves off temporarily to let them kill towns instead but it may not work pensivegayblob

pensivegayblob

hm

15:05

idk

Vera but actually a frog

maybe via rogue?

Yeah, akira fakeclaimed cit

dont think you should tell akira that

Huck told me he suspected akira and wanted to rogue wolf him

and youre sure rogue attacked?

15:06

cuz thats a solid argument imo

Likely

15:06

However akira probably told wolves I'm cciv, but if I get akira lynched then they may suspect I'm in town trusted or something

15:06

Then again huck probably won't mention me

15:06

So I'll be likely safe

15:07

But if wolves continue thinking I'm cciv I'll still be attacked

if huck gets wager we can maybe convince him to protect you

True

15:08

Wolves are probably too scared to attack huck for now anyways

Problem is huck kinda sees me as bait rn since he thinks me as citizen is "useless" so I doubt he'd protect me, really

you can admit being cc but idk

Val told me he was attacked

15:42

May be bait

15:42

But still

15:44

Val claims he doesn't have any info either

i live to see another demonization

22:01

@Plague Maiden of Maribor i can demonize exactly 1 person this night

22:01

and what should i give as medium result

22:01

i need that one quick

22:02

there were 9 people dead at day

22:02

the question was 'is fed town'

Hmm

22:02

~3 deaths out of the 9 were scum

22:02

Probably a bit more

so 4 v 5?

22:02

or 3 v 6

22:02

i think 3 v 6 might be best

22:02

6 yes

I'll double check the storytimes

3 no and 6 yes?

22:03

i need an answer right about now

22:03

i cant procrastinate too long on this

22:03

huck will be distrusting

Yeah 3 no 6 yes

Have a feeling it's 4 v 5 but honestly 3 is safer

done

I mean in the extreme scenario you can use misreading as an excuse (As in, the voters misread) (edited)

22:04

There's many factors that might make it like that

who should i demonize?

Wolves probably going for val

22:05

I asked val, he claimed to have been already hit by wolves

22:05

If wolves have the runner escape message they'd attack val again

22:06

If val is baiting wolves would very likely still attempt to kill val

allright

Demonizing can be done later

so i'll go val

22:06

no

22:06

if devil kills

Alright then

22:06

True

soul kills will turn people undead

22:06

i'll do val now

22:07

done

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Val leaked me that ddd was plague carrier

oh damn

No AH death

uh

22:59

i think val is bullshitting

22:59

i'll wait to see if huck trusts me with info

Val is straight up leaking report results

23:01

Fed was archivist, Swurtle was pack tanner, Dennis was lw

uh

23:02

what

23:02

uhm

23:02

so if huck isnt AH

23:04

oh wait

23:04

i misread

23:04

ig in that case everything is fine?

23:04

idk man, idk

23:05

huck isnt trusting me yet

23:05

if i fucked up the medium results i'll probably be up for lynch or rogue wolf or something

23:06

but if more scum than town died, i guess that's good for my fake medium on fed being town

Oh seems like those 3 are all the wolf deaths

23:06

So your medium should be mostly accurate

23:07

I'd probably press val for more but that seems sus, I guess this info for now is nice

23:08

Though val says there's 3 wolves left so I feel like those 3 were the only wolf deaths

23:09

Huck is 100% safe tbh, the worst thing that can happen is that val is huck's teammate and val is lying to me

23:09

If that's the case though then meh, too late to get town to turn back

Plague Maiden of Maribor

Though val says there's 3 wolves left so I feel like those 3 were the only wolf deaths

they also saw invincitank as vamp

Ah

23:10

Crap

which is fine

Yeah

vamp could be lying

23:10

which means that's already 4 votes for fed as town

Odd how there's plague though, there doesn't seem to be too many deaths to start with

23:11

When does plague deaths start? end of n3?

i guess yea

Ah

23:12

Ouch, a bloodbath

but maybe they got as unlucky as us

True

23:12

Also seems like now there's at least 2 exo claims

23:12

Huck said he didn't trust one

23:12

Did they exo you?

he said he would

23:14

never answered clearly when i asked

Huck said both exorcists removed different effects

HUH

Huck also is sus of katy

okay good

23:14

as long as he keeps the sus away from me for another day

23:15

huck asked if there was any way to prove i got wagered and protected him

23:15

(which i didnt)

23:15

but im still soulless so i told huck that if exo removed soulless, that's the most thats possible to prove me as protecting huck

True

i think that was a pretty smart move from me

23:15

if i do say so myself

I hope they did it

Seems like plagued people from n1 are only informed on n3

23:30

So there may be a bloodbath next morning

hm

23:32

thats just the plagued people from n1

Plague Bearer [Solo Killing - Plague Team]

Basics

The Plague Bearer's disease is lethal and highly contagious. Their desire is to kill off all other players.

Details (1/2)

The Plague Bearer starts the game with rodents that carry the plague. They have one rodent for every five players in the game (rounded). If there are several Plague Bearers then they know each other, and their rodent counts are combined. Each Plague Bearer may use one rodent per night. Each night, the Plague Bearer may free one of their rodents to contaminate another player. Contaminated players will be affected by the disease. The Plague Bearer cannot be contaminated. If the Plague Bearer attempts to contaminate an already contaminated player, they are informed, but the rodent is still used up. Contaminating a player is an immediate ability. Contaminated players are contagious, and remain so till their death. Any player who visits or is visited by a contagious player is immediately contaminated. Any type of action (target, attack, investigation, etc) is counted as a visit. At the start of the second night after being contaminated the player is informed that they are contaminated.

Details (2/2)

At the end of the second night after being contaminated the player will stop being contagious and die. This is not an attack. Should the player still be alive afterwards, they remain contagious, but will not die again. If no members of the plague team or channel remain, all players are no longer contaminated, although they are not informed about this. If the Plague Bearer attempts to use a rodent on the Plague Doctor, the attempt fails, the Plague Doctor immediately dies (not an attack), and the rodent is not used up. The Plague Bearer cannot win while a Plague Doctor is alive.

Whatever it is we'd see quite a bit more deaths unless town gets rid of plague

23:33

Carrier's gone, no mention of bearer

hm

23:33

allright

23:34

so bearer is probably still alive

Very likely

Vampire [Solo Recruitment - Underworld Team]

Basics

The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is killed in the night, they will instead turn into an undead.

Details

Each night, the Vampire may demonize one player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The player will not know they have been demonised. Vampires cannot demonize themselves or other members of the underworld. When a demonized player is killed in the night, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability. If there are several Vampires, they work together. If no members of the underworld channel remain, all demonized players are no longer demonized.

yeah plague is no good for us either

I think plague counts as "in the night" though

it's killed, not died, so we dont gain anything

Ah

and plague isnt an attack

Nor a kill?

honestly

23:35

that's unclear

23:36

@Host would plague death trigger demonized -> undead?

good question

Plague Bearer [Solo Killing - Plague Team]

Basics

The Plague Bearer's disease is lethal and highly contagious. Their desire is to kill off all other players.

Details (1/2)

The Plague Bearer starts the game with rodents that carry the plague. They have one rodent for every five players in the game (rounded). If there are several Plague Bearers then they know each other, and their rodent counts are combined. Each Plague Bearer may use one rodent per night. Each night, the Plague Bearer may free one of their rodents to contaminate another player. Contaminated players will be affected by the disease. The Plague Bearer cannot be contaminated. If the Plague Bearer attempts to contaminate an already contaminated player, they are informed, but the rodent is still used up. Contaminating a player is an immediate ability. Contaminated players are contagious, and remain so till their death. Any player who visits or is visited by a contagious player is immediately contaminated. Any type of action (target, attack, investigation, etc) is counted as a visit. At the start of the second night after being contaminated the player is informed that they are contaminated.

Details (2/2)

At the end of the second night after being contaminated the player will stop being contagious and die. This is not an attack. Should the player still be alive afterwards, they remain contagious, but will not die again. If no members of the plague team or channel remain, all players are no longer contaminated, although they are not informed about this. If the Plague Bearer attempts to use a rodent on the Plague Doctor, the attempt fails, the Plague Doctor immediately dies (not an attack), and the rodent is not used up. The Plague Bearer cannot win while a Plague Doctor is alive.

...

Vampire [Solo Recruitment - Underworld Team]

Basics

The Vampire wins by secretly turning all the living players into undead. The Vampire demonizes players; if a demonized player is killed in the night, they will instead turn into an undead.

Details

Each night, the Vampire may demonize one player. On even numbered nights, the Vampire may demonize a second player. The player will not know they have been demonised. Vampires cannot demonize themselves or other members of the underworld. When a demonized player is killed in the night, they will turn into an undead. The Vampire wins the game, along with the undead, if all players are either Vampire, dead or undead. Demonizing a player is an immediate ability. If there are several Vampires, they work together. If no members of the underworld channel remain, all demonized players are no longer demonized.

pull up the same descriptions

yes

23:37

it would

YES?

i think

...

uh

23:37

let me consult @Tissaia de Vries

23:37

is dying equal to being killed or is it separate?

i'll leave it up to you guys, im biased in this game rn >:)

Well, as per definition, if a demonized player is killed (not attacked!), they turn. Contaminated Players die (= get killed by the Plague), so I'd say yes, they turn.

turns undead but carries the plague with them

Should the player still be alive afterwards, they remain contagious, but will not die again.

Huh interesting

Yes, as my good friend Vesemir said

so an undead plague carrier

only in werewolves would we ask the question "is dying equal to being killed"

Vesemir

so an undead plague carrier

Typhoid Mary

thank you guys for this verdict

23:39

<3 <3

You're welocme :)

Dang that's pretty sick then

23:39

Free recruits

okay

23:40

in that case

23:40

if i live till next night

23:40

we can ask around for plague victims

23:40

>:)

23:40

however

Won't vampire be basically mass interacting with others as well

that will contaminate us too

23:40

well

23:40

me

23:41

it will contaminate me if i demonized contaminated players

Yes

23:41

And if you die there's no replacement

Dandelion

Well, as per definition, if a demonized player is killed (not attacked!), they turn. Contaminated Players die (= get killed by the Plague), so I'd say yes, they turn.

perfectly accurate!

Yay I finally got Dad's approval!

Papa Ts

Geralt of Rivinya

only in werewolves would we ask the question "is dying equal to being killed"

... and it is not

23:42

23:42

well actually

23:42

this is consistent with reality

23:42

you can die without getting killed

well

23:42

you can die without getting killed by a person

i got killed by age

23:42

i got killed by water

LMAO

but if we argue that, say, old age or cancer killed you, you still died

ah true

i got killed by air

Vesemir

i got killed by age

you got killed by your cells being unable to correctly reproduce

however attacks being less deadly than kills is accurate

Vesemir

i got killed by water

you got killed by your inability to breathe underwater

so at least something

that's also accurate to real life

23:43

being killed kills you

23:43

being attacked attacks you

which may or may not kill you!

amazing how the world works

23:44

i mean

https://tenor.com/view/people-die-if-they-are-gif-20318194

the wwrorld

revamped

thats the first r

it's the second one actually

lol

the WereWolvesroRevampedld

23:45

pronounced as wwrrrrrrrrold

Rolelist - Confirmed, Unlikely, Likely, ~~Dead~~ Town TI x1: Innkeeper (?) x1: Witch or Huntress (?) x1: Amulet Holder x1: Huck Rogue Wolf x1: Assistant x1: Babi Child x1: Runner x1: Val Bard x1: Cursed Civilian x1: Phantom TP x1: Hooker (?) x1: Exorcist x1: Woof Archivist Fox x1: ~~Fed~~ Infecting Wolf (?) or Saboteur Wolf (?) x1: Pack Tanner x1: ~~Swurtle~~ Lone Wolf x1: ~~Dennis~~ Other x2: Solo Devil x1: Demon x1: Plague Bearer x1: Plague Carrier x1: ~~ddd~~ Vampire x2: Vera, ~~Invinci~~ UA Bear x1: ~~8thsoul~~ Dog (?) -> Cursed Civilian -> Wolf x1: Akira Cat (?) -> Psychopath or Plague Doctor (?) x1: ~~Snivy~~ UNKNOWNS: Suso (Hooker, Scared Wolf, or Hell), Katy, Krem, ~~Rabbit~~ (Town, might be bard), ~~Mat~~ (Not wolf, likely town), Luffy, Rici, Oreo, Nick, ~~Turtle~~ (Town, might be bard), Leila, Arch, Meuh, Bart, Bemo (edited)

00:31

I find a bit odd how wolves let swurtle do the amulet fakeclaim

I think rogue wolf lost its powers too

Okay, snivy seems to be psycho

03:06

Confirmed

03:06

Snivy's cat

03:09

Akira's confirmed dog then, seems to be no counters

Asked huck if he rw'd akira, isn't responding for now but honestly with the low death count I think akira's already transformed and passed to wolves I'm cciv

Okay, seems like rw didn't attack akira

04:02

I should be partially safe though I may still die if huck's lying fsr

04:02

Unsure why there's such a little deathcount though

04:02

It may be witch

04:07

I'm suspecting val got confirmed, if he really is runner, by getting rw to attack him, feels a bit odd but it's a possibility

In town square mat somewhat revealed how she told fed she wanted the amulet, I'm thinking wolves probably attacked her for that or they know mat's the innkeeper claim to fed, unsure though

medium question: Is Val Town

1

1

1

07:38

huck's orders

and i will live to see another night

10:14

2 more demonized tonight

10:14

let's fucking gooo

huck said katy was fake exo

10:29

removed powdered from someone but there's no pyro this game

10:31

and he said bart guardian because 'he's a fun guy'

10:32

i asked about oreo's death and huck sent

10:32

so he knows somehting about oreo's death

Okay I’m guessing rw really lost its abilities

13:31

Bart is definitely confirmed though

13:32

Idk why nobody confirmed publicly aren’t dying

13:32

Huck also sent me “code word, potatoes”

13:32

fsr

Is huck just donating a million souls or something or do wolves just not want to kill town

13:45

If huck knows something about oreos death, I have a feeling it’s a plague death

13:45

And town probably attacked Val

13:45

*wolves

Vera but actually a frog

medium question: Is Val Town

I mean, if Val isn’t town huck wouldn’t be lynching katy rn, just say yes ig

13:46

Put 4 votes no

13:46

No wait

13:46

5

13:46

5 v 6

13:46

6 as yes

5 no vs 6 yes?

14:10

who would vote what

14:10

would we be able to categorize who's good and who's bad in dead

14:10

fed, swurtle and dennis, ddd and invinci would vote no

14:11

or i could do more yes and claim that the dead can also lie

There’s probably more than 5 votes

14:27

Depending on what snivy and 8th thinks

yeah

14:27

snivy and 8th can do whatever

Then again once there’s more than 5 votes it’ll become 6 v 5 so majority no

bear worked with town

14:28

however

Maybe that’s what’s huck is testing you for

the dead can also just not vote

True

maybe a 5v5 tie?

14:29

or even a 5 no vs 4 yes with ua abstaining

14:29

however it does seem like ua voted last time so that's unlikely

14:29

so ig 6 yes 5 no would work

Hm wth huck (edited)

do you think huck is hell

15:46

could very well be

Possibility is always there

15:47

But if huck is hell so is val

yup

15:47

luffy had to sell his soul

15:47

huck made me sell my soul

15:47

should we side with luffy?

15:47

it would make us seem like we're not undead

15:48

and if huck is hell, that'd mean we don't have much use for him because he won't die at night quickly

15:48

im hesitant tho

15:48

huck alive would mean a bigger chance for huck undead

15:48

but if we argue against huck, that'd makes us seem less sus

Yeah, huck has all the info

15:51

Also there’s a chance luffy is lying

15:52

How did suso not die though? Isn’t it just scared wolf or hell or is there more possible escapes

15:52

Prob hooker?

possible

15:52

it seems huck knows what suso is

15:52

and knows that an attack wouldnt have worked

15:52

so likely hooker

This is really odd play though

15:54

For huck to get away with the ah, the regular ah must be dead n1 and it’s really risky

yeah it makes no sense

Luffys probably somewhat lying, I guess

Hm, if huck really got luffy to use wager huck probably really wanted suso dead

Fuck they’re bringing that back again

its fine

16:16

dont go into full offense

16:16

fed's reputation as liar helps to prove that claim as fake

16:16

they might link luffy to also be fake because of that

16:16

and if it does come to me dying, at least there's some demonized left

Wth is hell doing

16:17

And where did they get these calculations

do you think i should reveal that i protected huck?

16:18

with wager

16:18

(which i definitely did and i totally didnt use my soul in any other way what are you talking about)

Hmm

16:18

Not sure

i'll ask huck if i can reveal it

Odd how wolves didn’t attempt to attack huck n2 though

probably expected him to be protected

16:19

or

Also I don’t think huck is demonized anymore, if they didn’t exo you they probably exod huck

they know huck is protected in any way

16:19

they did exo on someone

16:20

thats how they proved katy wrong

16:20

plus

16:20

All the members of the solo team whose effect is cured are informed about this.

Ah

16:20

True

and i haven't heard a word

Huck is still demonized then

yup

I guess they exod Val, since we demonized him after the exorcism

Huck did give me a code word, kinda odd really

Wolves probably attempted to attack val last night

16:57

And Val escaped

16:58

Unsure who rw attacked n2

16:58

Can’t be val, probably suso?

16:58

And huck got a wager kill on suso to ensure he’s not scared wolf or something?

16:59

Suso is very likely either hooker or hell

17:00

Val probably got confirmed by fortune teller, idk

Okay yeah suso is either hooker or hell

Have a feeling bart is exo

18:00

Katy fake exo, they die, then bart is town

18:00

Then again putting exo as sacrifice isn’t very lovely

18:00

Prob going to guardian itself

likely

Should we demonize bart in that case?

hm

18:49

if he guardian protects its no use

18:49

but it cant hurt

18:49

he might die a day later

Fuck

21:39

Vera

what the fuck man

Welp

Meuh, Huck, Val

22:06

All I can hope for I guess

22:06

Val or huck dead

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