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@Jay has created a new CC! CC Members | Total: 2 @Jay @Luffy

yo

current theory is that pack tanner actually did fuck up, that nick really is bb, and that rici is a wolf who panicked when he thought the others were accusing nick

19:00

but tbh it's equally likely the cs is fake

What's your claim?

19:42

And yes there is 2 cs claims

herald

19:45

targeting cs in case they died n1 and wolves tried to fake it

Fair enough

im assuming df will claim herald, wolves will claim cs and cit, and the non-katy flute will also go cit or herald

19:48

so I'll probably get cced a lot

Did the butchers claim d0 or n1

19:53

I can't remember

D0

20:12

I think

20:12

also in terms of cs just give them both a bunch of fake claims

20:13

like tell them me, arch, and mat all claim cit or something

I'll think about it

did both of them check the butchers last night? i assume so right?

I can't answer that, because it's still day and pack tanner can choose a target still

20:15

I can answer during night

oh shit yeah

20:19

no that's a good call i completely forgot about that

I'm no swurtle

20:22

Do you have an extra cc you can lend me

20:22

I don't want to call out a non claimer publically

sorry i was busy

21:18

i do have spare ccs though if you ever need one

It's okay I got them now

excellent

stein probably has just used all his ccs, he made one with me almost immediately

Probably

21:38

are you hag, and if you were, would you tell me

i am not, and if i was i would

21:39

but i think most people wouldn't

theres just so many herald claims that i assume one is hag (edited)

that's probable tbh

21:44

unless wolves fucked up and claimed it alongside df ig?

21:44

but hag seems way more likely

let me know if ur role activated

got enchanted

22:08

role did not activate i believe

22:08

swurtle also got enchanted

thanks

can you target assassin

sure

you better not be having ass claims attack each other

no comment

assassin did not die

10:56

you better not have fucked things up

10:56

but it looks like you haven't

Jay

im assuming df will claim herald, wolves will claim cs and cit, and the non-katy flute will also go cit or herald

also i forgot about cc, so there may also be an assassin claim from wolves

are you absolutely sure harp told you the correct hag type, and did the other cs get everything right?

Yes

11:49

I made sure harper told no one else their role either

cool

11:55

was kruthers the cs who contacted the butchers?

11:55

ah i see he claims so

Yeah

11:55

So nick most likely good

did you give any important info to kruthers? actually you probably shouldn't tell me that should you

Yeah I shouldn't say

@Jay target cit

okay

17:53

one last check, are we absolutely 100% sure kruthers is fake

He got harper's role wrong so yeah

17:54

He didn't even try to pretend otherwise

17:55

If he was real he definitely would have

lmao fair

so stein hasn't voted yet

18:49

on either poll

18:50

just busy or forgot or scum?

The latter

oh, you're sure of that? cs check or vibes?

I can't say until after tanner has chosen

18:51

Ask me again tonight and I'll say

aight will do

@Luffy do we think both sharl and alpha were evil? or can you not answer that?

alpha was a fake assassin claim, so your guess on his role is as good as mine

ah, so likely a weak wolf role

kruthers most likely psy wolf

(and why did wolves attack a hag? they must have known harper was hag if you asked kruthers to guess her as one)

20:35

what about sharl?

honeslty idk

20:35

it was prettty dumb of them lol

ig they had a reason but maybe it was shit

is blocking reporter even that neccesary in a game of herald

exactly

20:36

literally attacking you would have been better

yeah town got 2 new members

20:37

with good powers too

so we have bb, df, and most likely pt (i assume alpha was the turned cc bc pt is too valuable here) remaning, as well as fpa->fp

whats pt

20:38

oh

20:38

pack tanner

df we'll only be able to find via vibes, incorrect info, and/or whatever role they're imitating (herald imo) dying

or if we check them after they change back

20:39

which is only gonna be late into the game

that will only happen if we find bb and pt first

20:39

which if you're confident stein is bb could happen soon

yeah after kruthers there shouldnt be too many left

if sharl was evil then potentially there'll only be bb and df/pt left

plus yknow, hag powers are pretty good

yes

❗ Could not find role prophetic. Did you mean prophetic hag?

20:41

Prophetic Hag [Unaligned Align]

Limited Role

Basics

The Prophetic Hag can win with any team, unless that team has wronged the hags, however the Prophetic Hag cannot win if the hags have never been wronged. The Prophetic Hag can see the current alignment of another player.

Details

The Prophetic Hag is one of the hags ($i hags). During the night, the Prophetic Hag may once use their spell to see the current alignment of another player. This check is not affected by any disguises, obstructions or redirections. Checking a player is an immediate effect.

oh, prophag could find df too

and they each got wronged twice so theres a few uses

oh shit yeah

20:42

epicisimo

Jay

oh, prophag could find df too

yup it bypasses disguises

20:44

even strong ones

also i hope leila isnt the real cs bc i jokingly asked fp to enchant her

20:45

gonna be funny as shit if a) she is b) shes fp

this is an intensely weird move from stein

okay i agree with you stein is scum

Luffy

Ask me again tonight and I'll say

yo

its just vibes

22:09

though i dont even know if i need to have them checked at this point

you may be better off checking cit and herald claims

22:10

unless both butchers came up as different, we wouldn't gain any info

22:12

if you have a better kill target (i.e cs evidence or something) then use assassin on them, but if you don't i think targeting stein is the best bet

i have a few targets. better to go for more dangerous roles than bb

fair enough, you do that then

22:16

can i ask how many other herald claims there are/did the other hags reveal?

yeah i know all the hags

and no extra hag claims?

yeah no extras

22:19

wolves didnt bother fake claiming hag

silly of them

if i were in this game i would've

we know

though with prophetic hag, and hags being town aligned, they could figure it out themselves anyways

true

if ur wondering how i knew alpha was fake. well, i cant say how i knew before, but you were targetting assassin so you know now

oui

still want me on cit?

yeah

Do today's wordle, you will be greatly amused at the timing

oh my god

nobody got enchanted so i presume sharl was fpa or something

10:14

no cit deaths

is it at all possible that swurtle is a df and mat was tanned, or do we think it's highly unlikely?

It's possible, but I don't think anyone knew mats claim

may

️

14:38

df being a herald does fit my theory too

I'm assuming you weren't attacked, so why aren't you giving yourself Reporter? Then tomorrow we're guaranteed to get Guardian.

reasons

16:02

its a lot easier to know who wolvs will attack this way

aight

16:03

as long as you're sure

After this lynch switch to bloody butcher because there's no point in you targeting herald

cool cool will do

ddd isn't voting

Sus

19:58

I guess I'll ask him to

it seems you were correct about mat

22:10

thankfully

I knew before

22:11

He claimed fp to me

she

But wouldn't talk in enchanted to prove it

22:12

Or rather couldn't

inch resting

22:12

why no enchants then?

Well

22:12

Classified info

HOW is THAT classified info

Because what if Ur wolf, if Ur going after an important role, Ur influenced by if fp is alive or not

you just told me fp is dead.

Or if they're alive, Ur better able to deduce who it is

you JUST TOLD ME they were dead

Rather I just sent it in 2 messages

unless u r lying i suppose

Luffy

Rather I just sent it in 2 messages

??

I mean in both scenarios, alive or dead. It's beneficial to wolves

????

22:16

you might have a valid point but nothing you are saying makes like. literally any sense whatsoever

22:16

not in terms of theories they just aren't sensical

But it's okay. There's like no scum left, It'd be very difficult to manage to lose at this point

i love how you've managed to clear literally nothing up with that

22:17

like i fully believe you're correct and that we probably only have df and bb left

Okay what if I said there's 2 wolves left and one is turtle

Luffy

Classified info

i'm just bewildered as to what every message you sent from this point onwards meant

And that DF is already dead

ah

22:18

nick and ddd have been enchanted

22:20

im confused as to why you told me fp was dead, and then went on to say "i can't tell you this info because what if you think fp is alive and it influences you"

Luffy

And that DF is already dead

inch resting

22:20

proph hag check?

22:21

still want me on bb btw (i assume so)

Yeah

22:21

And it's because I think I know who fp is

you better be correct

So explaining why there's no enchanted would make you more likely to figure out who

okay fair

Can you list the enchanted people again

nick, ddd, myself, and swurtle are the living ones

Alive Players | Total: 9

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy)

️ - Swurtle (@Swurtle)

- shapechange (@Jay) ⭐ - riciano (@Riciano)

- Nick262008 (@Nick)

- !Phantomtomic (@Phantom)

- Jean D. Arch (@Arch)

- Mr. Turtle (@Turtle)

- ddd8000 (@ddd) (edited)

that leaves either rici or arch as fp

22:24

and actually

22:24

wait nvm forgot about ddd

Okay maybe I should go for fp tomorrow instead of turtle

it doesn't matter which order you get fp and a wolf out as long as you get fp out in this phase or the next

22:25

i personally would kill fp tonight just bc im paranoid

Switch target to fp actually

aight

23:12

thatll use my emergency, you sure?

Or next phase

oke

Eithers fine

well it does kinda depend who you attack tonight

Won't be fp

23:15

Cuz there's always a chance wolves could do it if they're aiming for cs or assassin (edited)

23:15

And kill fp by accident

alright

23:15

i think ill stay on bb for now

Actually I guess I can say

02:10

Logically, U know fp has to be between 2 people

02:11

It's Riciano, highly likely. And I'm pretty sure he just afk'ed last night

i thought it might be rici

11:36

arch didn't seem likely to afk

11:37

I'm assuming no ass kill means it was leila or krem (edited)

Alive Players | Total: 8

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy)

- shapechange (@Jay) ⭐ - riciano (@Riciano)

- Nick262008 (@Nick)

- !Phantomtomic (@Phantom)

- Jean D. Arch (@Arch)

- Mr. Turtle (@Turtle)

- ddd8000 (@ddd) (edited)

but we do need to lynch fp today

LMAO

14:26

so rici and ddd are the evildoers

14:27

well i suppose you don't know if it's me or ddd. but i do

14:29

thats interesting though, doesn't that mean that at least one other hag that isn't harper is dead?

Townsfolk Butcher (2) - Phantom, Nick Citizen - Swurtle Runner - Luffy Herald - Jay Assassin - Leila OR Krem (?) Crowd Seeker - Arch OR ddd (?) Wolves Bloody Butcher - Turtle Known Other Wolves (4) - Mat, Alpha, Sharl, L/K/kruthers Flutes FP - Katy FPA - Rici Hags Hag - Harper, Arch/ddd (?), L/K (?) (Sharl wouldn't make sense here as presumably Sharl was killed by hags) (edited)

14:40

conclusion: this is a very incorrect list and you are probably lying about several things to me but thats how wws is

14:41

if sharl was assassin then arch/ddd must be vicious hag

14:44

wait no that makes no sense

14:44

bc hags wouldnt have killed sharl if he was assassin, if they were working with you

14:44

sharl wasnt the wolfkill so i guess he must have been wolf?

14:45

but then where does that leave leila and krem? was one of them a miskill?

14:46

alpha wasnt a miskill if he really was claiming assassin, but if swurtle was actually cit then neither was mat

Jay

bc hags wouldnt have killed sharl if he was assassin, if they were working with you

and if he was assassin i would have got the message. forgot that lmao

14:47

so sharl must have been scum (ignoring the situation where he was a hag claim and hags killed him fsr)

Jay

alpha wasnt a miskill if he really was claiming assassin, but if swurtle was actually cit then neither was mat

and presumably she was cit bc she died, unless she was fake and you got attacked, and assassin killed her, in which case assassin is still alive

14:49

but if alpha and mat and sharl were all scum then kruthers was real ????????

14:49

but that would mean the "current cs" is scum so that STILL doesn't add up

14:49

conclusion confusion

14:50

unless of course one of leila or krem was the fake cs

14:51

conclusion: either 1. sharl was a hag and fsr hags killed sharl or 2. kruthers was real, nick is bb, and one of leila or krem was fake cs OR 3. i am stupid (most likely one)

14:58

under reason 1: Townsfolk Butcher (2) - Phantom, Nick Citizen - Swurtle Runner - Luffy Herald - Jay Assassin - Krem Crowd Seeker - ddd Wolves Bloody Butcher - Turtle Known Other Wolves (4) - Mat, Alpha, kruthers, Leila Flutes FP - Katy FPA - Rici Hags Hag - Harper, Arch, Sharl (leila/krem and arch/ddd theoretically interchangeable) Inconsistencies: - Sharl could only be the hag kill in this list, so hags killed one of their own fsr

15:02

under reason 2: Townsfolk Butcher (2) - Phantom, Turtle Citizen - Swurtle Runner - Luffy Herald - Jay Assassin - Krem Crowd Seeker - kruthers Wolves Bloody Butcher - Nick Known Other Wolves (4) - Mat, Alpha, Sharl, Leila Flutes FP - Katy FPA - Rici Hags Hag - Harper, Arch, ddd (leila/krem interchangeable) Inconsistencies: - kruthers got Harper's role wrong, so Harp was either lying (makes no sense) or disguised (why??) - at some point Leila (theoretical fake cs) was discovered, but how? - in this list ddd must be hag, so why is he so confidently faking herald in town square?

15:05

i suppose one of leila and krem couldve been a hag killed by wolves

15:07

wait no that wouldnt posit a major difference to anything, bc the other still mustve been scum

15:10

.....maybe harper wasn't hag????

15:10

and sharl was, and sharl was the wolfkill?

15:10

that seems rather unlikely and i don't have time to work through its implications anyway

15:10

i mean whatever happens i presume we're lynching rici today

Yeah

16:26

The truth will blow your mind

Do u think Nick will die tonight

@Jay u there?

hi

17:30

im here

Lol so

17:30

Rici claimed pack tanner to me, and if he was flute I'm not sure how he would know that's the last wolf role alive

so arch has to be flute?

17:31

also why did he claim that

To save himself he said

we need to lynch flute today i think

And he told me who he targeted

17:31

Which seems correct

i see

17:32

are you absolutely SURE rici is pack tanner? does that make ddd hag?

Maybe

then we need to lynch arch

Rici has to be either

17:33

Wolf or flute

flute has to die today

He could be lying but do u think he's capable of correctly guessing the pack tanner targets and knowing its the last wolf role alive

i do not

17:34

so lynch arch then?

Yeah

cool cool

Luffy

He could be lying but do u think he's capable of correctly guessing the pack tanner targets and knowing its the last wolf role alive

....unless arch is pt giving rici a flute win ig, but that's gting so let's hope not

17:36

do we have a kill tonight? i think we win either way but it would be good

We have no more kills (edited)

17:41

Also He kind of revealed that turtle is bb lmao

17:41

When he said the targets

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Alive Players | Total: 8

- Captain Luffy (@Luffy)

- shapechange (@Jay) ⭐ - riciano (@Riciano)

- Nick262008 (@Nick)

- !Phantomtomic (@Phantom)

- Jean D. Arch (@Arch)

- Mr. Turtle (@Turtle)

- ddd8000 (@ddd) (edited)

Ur targeting fp right

5+1 v 2 v 1 Day 4: Lynch Arch, Nick Reporter 5+1 v 2 Night 5: Nick(?) dies 4+1 v 2 Day 5: Lynch Rici, Phantom(?) Reporter 4+1 v 1 Night 6: Phantom(?) dies 3+1 v 1 Day 6: Lynch Turtle Town Win

17:44

i actually forgot to do that thank u for reminding me

17:45

so ddd is either CS or Hag ig

Funny how turtle gets to live the longest

he's our lil bud

17:49

my maths seems to have gone wrong somewhere

3 lynches from winning

17:53

Ur the last person to be trusted lol. If I find out arch isn't town I can tell u everything

If Phantom is BB somehow After Day 4: Luf(2)+Jay(1)+ddd(1)+Nick(1)+Nick(1) vs Pha(1)+Rici(1) A. N5: Luf(2)+Jay(1)+ddd(1)+Turt(1) vs Pha(1) + Rici(1) A. D5 Luf(2)+Jay(1)+ddd(1)+Turt(1) vs Pha(1) A. N6 Luf(2)+Jay(1)+Turt(1) vs Pha(1) A. D6 Luf(2)+Jay(1) vs Pha(1) A. N7 Luf(2) vs Pha(1) so we can afford to get BB wrong

Luffy

Ur the last person to be trusted lol. If I find out arch isn't town I can tell u everything

lmao

17:55

it's honestly a nice change of pace from a) being scum or b) being town and somehow getting trusted super early

17:58

it does mean I won't get a very high subj bc lets be real what did i actually do. but hopefully a win should be enough to get me gold

you did your best

I'm gonna rate as low as I can so you don't get gold :) /j

JDKDLSLS

Luffy

you did your best

even my best attempts at rolelists are wrong bc i have zero info LMAO

the truth will blow ur mind, thats all i can say

sjkslalsl

18:02

okay the most mind-blowing possible truth would beeeeeeeee harper was actually crowd seeker

18:03

god thatd be so funny

18:03

i hope thats true

i guess archs silence means shes been caught

The old herald was that they could only use their power once right

i think so? i think originally it wasn't specified whether they could or not

What did u think of yesterday's worldle lol

incredible

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